MY ULTIMATE SHOWDOWN - Saucony Xodus Ultra 2 vs Merrell Agility Peak 5 | Run4Adventure
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- Saucony Xodus Ultra 2 vs Merrell Agility Peak 5 review. Regular viewers of the channel will be well aware that I am a massive fan of Saucony's Xodus Ultra and Xodus Ultra 2. They've got me through lots of tough challenging miles over the years, including Endure24 and the TDS at UTMB. The shoes have never caused me any foot issues and tend to be my go-to shoe of choice when it comes to running a long way. However, there's a new kid on the block - the Agility Peak 5 from Merrell. I've really been enjoying the running miles in these lately and I've found myself reaching for them more and more for my long runs. So I guess the question is, which pair of trail shoes is the best?
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SAUCONY XODUS ULTRA 2 First Run & First Impressions video - • SAUCONY XODUS ULTRA 2 ...
SAUCONY XODUS ULTRA 2 Full Review - • SAUCONY XODUS ULTRA 2 ...
Saucony Peregrine 13 vs Xodus Ultra 2 video - • The Ultimate Showdown:...
MERRELL AGILITY PEAK 5 first impressions review video - • UNEXPECTED performance...
MERRELL AGILITY PEAK 5 Full Review video - • MERRELL AGILITY PEAK 5...
MERRELL AGILITY PEAK 5
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SAUCONY XODUS ULTRA 2
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0:00 Intro
1:37 Saucony Xodus Ultra 2 vs Merrell Agility Peak 5
2:02 Stats
2:36 Upper
3:42 Midsole
5:15 Outsole
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Overall, I think the xodos ultra is the better shoe for an ultra trail. The only disadvantage is the outsole, which unfortunately isn't optimal on wet rock.
Unfortunately, I miss the stability a bit with the Merell.
But it's great that there is now such a large selection of top-performing shoes that there is something for everyone.
Great vid again! Love AP5 once I got the fit sorted. Put nearly 200k in to them over the last three weeks and they’ve not faltered. My go to long run/ ultra shoe now.
Wow... I think that you managed to convince me about AP 5. I will my Ultra Glide 2 and really give a try to this one, which looks to be quite versatile! Thanks again for your great videos !
Great video Loyd! You’ve just answered a question I was puzzling over after watching your videos! Think I’ll be sorted for next years ultras! Now I’m wondering about Skyfire 2 or VJ xtrm 2 for the winter fell race series in North Yorkshire…
Wow. Didn't think I would ever see that Loyd. 😮😮😮
Maybe worth a look!
Absolutely Awesome Vlog, surely looks like a great shoe to replace my original Xodus Ultra, the Merrell Agility Peak 5. Thanks
Excellent comparison. Like to Run4adventure. A nice day for everyone.
Couldn't get a good enough heel lockdown in the Merrell. Outsole looks awesome.
Going to give the Merrell a go, just ordered it. I was pretty disappointed with the Xodus Ultra 2. Fell apart after 120 miles, both the upper and midsole. It's a shame because it really is comfy! Never would have looked at the Peak 5 without your review, seems like a solid shoe!
what can i say Loyd! Last year on "Olympus Vertical" running with Saucony Peregrine10, i won from Merrell's single lottery the Agility peak4. Today on a local mountain trail, (running with the Peak4) i win AGAIN from Merrell's single lottery the Peak5!!! LooooooL what a luck!
I've watched your peak 5's videos Loyd many times, so i think somehow you brought luck to me, thanks!
I gave the Merrell a try and really struggled with ankle lockdown, as much as I wanted to love it! I can see why you would if the ankle area works well. It seems to have been mentioned in a few other places once I started wondering if it was just me. I tried a runners knot, but due to the tongue being rather thin, it was biting much more than I'd like. I think I might give them a try when the prices drop eventually, but it's just a bit too much of a financial gamble at the moment!
I had the Merrell Skyfire and regard it as the slipperiest trail shoe I had ever used on a wet day . I also had the Longsky which gave me blisters and felt sort of elongated and folded in as the shoe flexed . So I would love to try a Merrell I didn’t dislike .
Ive been using the Rift , i actually like the lugs better on that shoe compared to the Xodus2. The Rift has wider lugs and like others mentioned, if they did the lugs with vibram material it would be one heck of a shoe
Fantastic review, really like Merrell sole especially the width as it’s got that slight Hoka look. The Merrell is a serious potential buy for me as I having ran in Hoka trainers for the past 6 years I feel that Hoka are not as durable as they used to be. I get the feeling that Hoka are more interested in fashion and general lifestyle than running.
Great vlog as always 😎 I love the Saucony XU2, I have put over 925 km on them so far and that includes few ultras including the first half of the Kerry way ultra (101km) super comfortable with no issues 😎 I had to switch out of them because of the bogs 😄 and then I did the next 50 km in the Saucony XU Runshield and then finished of the race in a pair of Speedgoat 5’s 😎 I would have happily run the whole 200 km in the Saucony XU2 but the bogs destroyed them and I had no choice but to change to to save my feet 😅 the only issue I have with the Saucony XU2 is the grip, they are great on most terrains but absolutely useless on wet boardwalks 😅 I have the Wicklow Way Ultra (130km) starting tomorrow evening (Friday 13th of October) and my plan was to wear the Saucony XU2 but unfortunately there is a good bit of boardwalk on this trail so I’m now thinking I’ll have to go with the Speedgoat 5’s just for that Vibram grip 😎 the upper on my Saucony XU2 has ripped on both shoes in the same place so hopefully the next rendition of the shoe will sort that out 😎 love the channel 🤘😎 happy running 🙂
Thank you for detailed information
I was about to buy XU2, I already have Peregrine 13,but have same issues on wet boardwalk or wet rock
I'll go for Merrell I think
Loyd, you didn’t compare room/width in the toe box which I and many feel is so important. I’ve had 2 pairs of Xodus, will be trying the Merrells.
just ordered a pair of the merrells. I reckon they should pay you for doing the bulk of their marketing for them haha. the amount of people I've seen who have tried them because of your videos is astonishing. really hoping they do the trick for me.
I am going to give these a go. I really love the Saucony Xodus Ultra 2.
Anyone try the Merrell winter mid gortex? Thinking about these for the Pacific Northwest winter.
They look like what the speedgoat 5 should have been instead of what hoka turned it into. I like the xO2, and I have been playing with the salomon thundercross lately, but my all time fav was the SG2 and have not yet found anything to fill it’s spot - perhaps the merrel could finally be it.
Just ordered a pair of the Merrell’s. Hoping for something to replace my SG4 with a little longer durability
I'm not seeing much discount from MRRP on the Merrell's but I got my Xodus Ultras for £65 a couple of weeks a go, that makes a big difference, although I still prefer my Hoka SG5's for grip, although the Xodus do feel like they will last longer.
i have the Xodus Ultra2 and also the Peregrine13, i find the P13 more responsive and good stability personally, i just bought 3 more.. first time i do this, they really feel good for me, i got one in the Goretex version for winter
Don't you find the 13s slippery on wet surfaces ? Trying to decide between these and the Xodus2, but rather for hikking. Thanks !!
The Xodus Ultra 2 is only let down by the lack of any traction on wet surfaces. There appears to be no tackiness to the rubber at all. Other than that I'm still happy with mine with over 350 miles
Agree. Running V1 and wet grip is the main weakness. It's also a shoe feeling heavier than the weight suggest as there's a lot of upper, but ride is great.
j etais pret a acheter cette Agility peak 5 , mais je sais de source sur que la prochaine Nike zegama va avoir quelques ameliorations , et enfin une semelle exterieur qui accroche comme peu le faire la Wildhorse 8 , alors je vais attendre pour acheter cette zegama 2 . mais j aimes vos video , surtout ne changeais rien c est parfait comme toujours
Great video! I wish I went for the Merrell but I went for the Mafate 4’s. I really enjoy the Mafate, but watching your videos on the Merrell I think they may have been the better choice?!? Keep the content coming.
I just did Lakes in a Day in the Mafate 4s and really do like them, just wish they were a little wider.
@@ellismccoy I do really like mine too. I’ve not got a wide foot, so the fit is good. The grip and the midsole are the best thing on the Mafate.
@@alecchurch67492 things to add:
I went to a store yo buy Speedgoats... and got Mafate⁴ instead. Better upper (more space for small toes, good width), better midsole (a neat mix of a pillow & bounce, instead of that aggressive rocker).
If Merrel = SG, M⁴ wins
Now, the Xodus feels more nimble. I praise the midsole, great lugs & grip (though not as good as M⁴).
I have a winterized version - I'll test it more to say which is better.
For now Mafate is my choice for longer races.
@@alecchurch6749 I don't have a wide foot but for some reason I get rubbing on the inside of my little toe as if it's slightly squashed in. I don't get it in any other shoe.
We need a recount. lol. just kidding mate. I've really enjoyed the Xodus Ultra 2. The original was good but the current version has a better lock down. I've ran countless miles in them now and it's never let me down. Glad to see that you are enjoying the Agility Peak 5.
Still lots of worries about wet surfaces with the Xodus 2. Was it a big concern for you ? Planning to buy them more for hikking trails, rather then running. Thanks!!
I haven't run plenty of wet surfaces with the Xodus 2, but they performed well when I did. The fit and cushioning and the security I feel in the Xodus 2 is a big upgrade over the first version in my opinion@@georgepotcovaru2595
I can’t believe the Xodus and Xodus Ultra 2 had been dethroned!!! 😂 whenever I try other trail trainers they don’t seem to have the same feel and bounce, I still use the XU1 and I think it’s an ever better option than the XU2. Loads of trainers like speedboats have too much foam and not enough bounce, the vibram grip on the saucony trainers would be a good idea! I’m glad you’re happy with the new Merrells….but did you run 80 miles out the box in them…eh? 😆
Love the Xodus (1 and 2, just a tad less) but the outsole durability isn't there on the Pwwrtrac compound from Saucony. Give me 20-25 miles and I can wear down the back lugs, no problem. They need to address that for version 3 of the Xo. Might give the Agility Peaks if I can find a good sale, later. Good review!
Ouch! I've done 550km in my current pair of Xodus 1's on a mix of trail, mud, gravel and tarmac and the back lugs are virtually like new. Even the most worn of lugs around the middle and front of the shoe still have around 2-3mm of tread left.
Agree
Awesome content as always!! Am I the only one who think the XU ver.1 is superior to the XU ver.2 ?? I have both, and I like the feel grip and durability of the originals over the ver.2 Ultras. Saucony fits me *exquisitely* so I'm always apprehensive to swap brands. Just wish the XodusUltra 2 didn't crap out as soon as it's seemingly doing. My OG pair have 10X the miles on them, and seem in better condition than my current XU ver.2 🤷🏻♂
I kind of agree, I think the original Xodus Ultras are slightly better than the 2's 🤔
yup i have a XU2 and used for the Minotaur Skyrace, and all the lugs were gone after only one 33km race, i just bought the winter GTX Zero AP5, hopefully the stability is good with the ankle
Just an update - picked up the AP5 in GTex AND regular - they're absolutely crushing!! The GTex version - personally - will suit me fine for PNW wet winters, not -20C, just wet n cold. But the regular non-GTex are amazing. They've usurped the XU1 (former fave of mine) and def the XU2@@francoisnarrainen6413
Go Merrell , i loved the peak4 . I believe the peak5 would be also awesome!
Do me a favour? How many miles do you have in them? Take the insole out and look into the shoe. See if you can see the shoe split or cracked open?
I checked them but i didn't fill/see anything at all. I use them only on race day (three ~21k so far), less than 100k totally.
For trainer shoe, i use a stiff saucony peregrine 10, so in race day with the Agillity4 , you can imagine... i'm flying!
@@misterb1915
to tell you the truth not many miles, about 150, in winter i prefer road running :( but they seem to me just fine, no issues nowhere.@@misterb1915
The Xodus Ultra wins the beauty pageant for me, though
Would you say the GORETEX version is worth it?
Tried the previous AP4 and had an uncomfortable hard midsole with poor heal lockdown and sold them on.
XU2 are great apart from being slippery on some surfaces like wet tarmac and the mesh upper fraying.
AP5 sound good if the heel lock down is improved over the previous and an improvement in midsole ?
Hi, great comparison video! What about Mafate 4? In which aspects are the AP5 superior?
Glad you enjoyed the video 👍
I find the Agility Peak 5 fits my footshape a bit better, I don't have any foot issues at all when I'm running distance in them. The Mafate Speed 4's are still one of my favourite shoes of the year but it is pretty narrow in the toe box. Hope this helps and thanks for watching 🙏😊
Long live the king
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👍🏻👍🏻
Now compared to La Sportiva Prodigio?
I love my Xodus 2’s but the lugs are wearing out far to quickly, under 100 miles and I’ve lost 3 lugs completely
My inov8 300max have 400 miles on them and all lugs still in place!
short review after 200km in the AP5:
+ good cushion
+ very good foot ptotection, especially from the bottom (thx rock plate)
+ enough room in the toebox (more than a mt cushion 2 f.ex)
+ good wear resistance from the outsole
+ good grip on soft ground
- destroyed an eyelet after 100 km. Got a new pair under warranty. OK, nice from them, but way too thin material on there
- poor grip on wet stones. Lugs are too far from eachother, I think not enough rubber on the ground.
- too stiff outsole for technical, rocky terrain. A little more flex (like a Genesis for ex.) would be nice. Even after 100k, no change from new
- not the most stable shoes, especially on rocky terrain. way less than MT Cushion 2.
- poor heel hold. Runnners knot does help a lot, but you sacrifice comfort from the upper. Tricky to find the sweet spot. Size is perfect, yhat's not the cause of the slip.
All in all, I give them a 7/10, mixed feelings....
Poor grip on wet stones! That really does surprise me because Vibram Megagrip rubber is about as good as it gets on wet rocky trails, I’ve never had any issues with grip? 🤔
@@Run4Adventure I'm with you abaut this, I don't understand. I've had a pair of Scarpa Spin Ultra's with megagrip litebase, and that was like superglue, really, it gripped everything, even froozen wet stones and roots, crazy. On this one, (and the 1st pair), it's far from being that grippy. Sad...I hope it improves over time, like a car or motorcycle tyre. In the same conditions, the MT Cushion 2 is way and way better regarding grip. From mile 1;
Interesting outcome. Which one will you be wearing at Arc? 😁
Probably the Agility Peak 5 Ian 🤔
Loyd how is the heel lockdown for you on the AP5? Some reviewers have reported issues. I’m considering changing from XU2 for my long day mountain shoe (in Colorado)- traction on the XU2 running in Scotland (Ben Nevis 50k) was a hot mess.
Maybe a bit late with the reaction, but to me, the heel lock on the AP5 is 'good', but not great. But there's a solution : use the extra 2 holes on top for a runners knot, and as per magic, the shoe is glued to the foot!!
My merrell AP5 lace keeps on coming off..
Do you know when you’ll be getting caps back in stock?
We should have more stock soon, we've got some on order 👍
Thanks for watching and supporting the channel 🙏
Can you comment on with up front for toes between the two?
They are both very similar when it comes to width in the toe box but I'd say the Xodus has a little bit more volume in the toe 👍
Hope this helps and thanks for watching 🙏
These are discounted on Winfield's outdoors and with a further discount code just £89
Is the peak 5 narrow? In which case no good for me
I'd say it average on width but it's definitely not wide 👍
How would you compare toe box room? My ultras are just a little bit narrow.
I'd say the toe box width is very similar in both shoes Jeff 👍
Hope this helps and thanks for watching 🙏
That's useful to know. AP5s were lovely to run in but toe box too narrow - rubbed my big toe after only 10 miles even when going up half a size.
Cd you mention the toe box shape and overall fit? How did they feel? Saucing devotee for riad and trail because they just ‘fit’. Hmm.
The fit in the toe box is very similar on both shoes. There's reviews on the channel of both shoes, you can find a lot more info there 👍
Thanks for watching 🙏
@@Run4Adventure thank youuuu! Always love your reviews.
I love my Xodus 2's. But 11 or 12 miles into the run, the left shoe starts to squeak on every step. Does my head in :)
Get some WD40 on it 😜😂
Funnily enough my left shoe gets a bit sloppy on tarmac
How wide are the Merrill please?
I'd say they've got average width in the toe box. There's a full review of the Merrell shoe on the channel that has more info on the 👍
Thanks for watching 🙏
which is better stability can you rate 1-10 , im planning to peak 5
I find both shoes to be stable, I've had no stability issues in either of them 👍
Hope this helps and thanks for watching 🙏
How is the sizing on both shoes? I have speedgoat 5 in a US 11.
I had the SG5's in a uk 10 but I've got both the Xodus and the Agility Peak 5 in a uk9.5 and they fit well. Hope this helps and thanks for watching 🙏😊
@@Run4Adventure thanks Loyd I appreciate it.
@@anthonyrampino7734 No worries 👍
Hello Loyd.. do you still use the saucony xodus ultra 1 ?
If they’d just put vibram on the bottom, the Xodus would be king. Love the first version of this shoe.
I do still use them now and again, it's a great shoe 👍
@@Run4AdventureI’ve still got 2 pairs to burn thru before I can move to v2. I did buy tho the weather shield version for this winter so should be interesting how they do…with the same current lug /rubber pattern.
@@TrailRunnerReviews I've got the weather shield version as well and it dies make a difference if you're splashing through puddles 👍
Which model has more toe room? No mention of that.........
AP5 based on his previous review of the shoe based on his foot
There's full reviews on both shoes on the channel where I go into the with in the toe box. However I'd say they are very similar, maybe the Xodus Ultra 2 gives you just a little bit more room in the toe 👍
For me Xodus1 is better than Xodus2 Because the mesh started to break at 400 km
Is this really happening!
I know, it shocked we too 😲
I do still enjoy running in the Xodus Ultra 2! Thanks for watching 🙏