Oh my goodness, these keep getting better! I would probably never get a chance to be a fly on a wall for talks like this in my lifetime without getting into the industry. Thank you so much, this was fantastic.
Always so much fun to talk about wine with Peter… bright and humble. And Pat manages to capture both the fun and the wisdom in this episode. Such an honor to be with these heroes of mine… thanks for the opportunity! 🙏
Pat, I'm American, living in Europe and have only gotten into wines after moving here. I absolutely adore your channel and it makes me so proud as an American to know our wines are killing it beyond the west coast (and I'm a Californian). Keep up the great work!!
This is the best informative video about the behavior of soil and water for wine making and minerality! and the other stories are quite interesting and fun🤣🤣
Fox Run is not just a great place for wine, it's also a great place to eat and pair the wine with food. A must in the Finger Lakes. We usually visit 4-6 times a year.
Absolutely love Peter’s strong stance on minerality. It’s informed positions like this that elevates conversation around a nebulous topic like tasting wine that weeds out some of the BS. I hope his words draw some critics in the comments! While I’ve never had a riesling with as much bottle age as you’re all enjoying there Fox Run is the first riesling I’ve ever tasted and I’m always happy to drink it and recommend it. -Chris
Fascinating that we still don´t really know what the fuck actually makes a wine tastes good. I like the word "minerality" because it is kind of vague and so it is open for further discussion about the wine, but also allows guys like me to talk about the wine even if you can not pin point the exact taste. I like that you highlight important words, keep it up and keep more videos coming!=)
The point you make about terms like saline being used to describe wines in an analog or approachable way is spot on. Sometimes the biggest struggle is translating tase to words especially when talking to a consumer who hasn't got the full vocabulary of wine tasting terms in their head! Really interesting chat about minerality!
Aaah now I probably know why I almost always go to «wet stone» when I smell white wines. Sulphur components huh… Great videos lately btw. Looking forward to what you do in the future.
"smackdown of the other wines" I need to schedule a visit to Fox Run this fall... the story of flying over experts for mentoring would be such a luxury to have... hope some experts will be willing to just do a Zoom call as I do for my clients... ;)
One grape varietal that has a distinctive saltiness is autoctone where I live (Switzerland): The grape is called "Petite Arvine" and mainly grows in the Valais which lies in the Southwest.
Hi love the new channel pat…been a fan since watching u with jay and mr koff….hope it goes from strength to strength…just a thought since I’m from England may u do any tasting vids on British wine they really are getting better and better.regards😍
The problem is they’re very rare here. That said, my good friend and fellow master of wine blind tasted me on a 2014 vintage sparking wine from England. I thought that it was either a very good nonvintage or a vintage having some years of bottle age to account for the toasty notes. I wasn’t surprised to see that it was English. Such a session would be a paid masterclass taking place either in London or at an English winery/vineyard.
There are some ambiguous expressions for amateur. I think these are minerals(white or red), savory(red) and oxidative(especially for champagne), etc.. If the circumstance allows, please explain some vague words on youtube. I always appreciate your video. Thanks!
Mineral- think of the smell of wet stones just as a rain falls. Savory is something not sweet and fruity. Oxidative for Champagne ranges from toasty (good) to having notes of varnish (less good).
I think Peter meant some producers are calling their 100% Riesling Wine by another name “White wine” in the hope of attracting a larger market of consumers. At least, that’s my take on it and what I have noticed on bottles from the Finger Lakes. Maybe I’ll be able to reach him for a response.
Thank you, both for the reply and for the excellent video! Interesting that markets are so different. Here (Sweden), I believe Riesling is a fairly well-known and loved grape. Primarily Riesling from Germany and other European countries but according to the sales statistics from Systembolaget(*) even when it comes to wines from the US - the most sold white wine in bottles happens to be a Riesling (specifically Kung Fu Girl Riesling from Washington State). Wines from the Finger Lakes are extremely rare here, so I was delighted to see Oscar (in the previous video) mentioning Sweden as one of the countries they will start exporting to. When marketing Riesling here, I believe they would do themselves a huge disservice not calling their Riesling Riesling. (*) The Swedish government-owned liquor store chain with the only retail stores allowed to sell alcoholic beverages in Sweden.
Kung Fu Girl is very popular here today but it doesn’t taste like a classic Riesling whereas many of the Finger Lake wines do. Approximately how much is the Kung Fu Girl in Sweden?
Then I really want to try some Finger Lake wines as I assume I would appreciate them more than I do Kung Fu Girl. Kung Fu Girl is fairly cheap here even though it is imported from the US; a bottle costs about US $16 at Systembolaget. It seems Systembolaget sold a bit over 200 000 bottles of Kung Fu Girl last year, so I guess the importer got some volume discount.
사실 토양의 성분이 물에 용해되 포도나무 뿌리에서 삼투현상으로 전달되는 일반적인 원리인데, 당연히 토양성분이 물에 의해 포도나무로 전달될꺼라는 생각의 맹점을 집어 주신것 같네요. 예를들어, 토양에 없는 성분이라도 물에 이미 녹아있는 무기염류가 있다면 포도나무가 그 미네랄을 흡수할 수 있는 것처럼 관개가 허용되면 실질적으로 물을 주는 와인메이커의 역량이 반영된다는 이야기인것 같습니다.
경험적으로 밭의 입지조건 (토양, 배수 기타 등등)이 와인의 품질에 영향을 준다는 것은 알려져 있었지만 토양의 성분이 그대로 와인에 반영되는가에 대해서는 많은 다른 견해들이 있습니다. 일례로 프랑스 과학자 제라르 세갱(Gerard Seguin)은 보르도 지방의 토양 성분과 와인 성분을 수집 조사했습니다만, 토양의 성분비와 와인성분비간에 유의할만한 연관관계를 찾을 수 없다고 결론 내렸습니다.
Oh my goodness, these keep getting better! I would probably never get a chance to be a fly on a wall for talks like this in my lifetime without getting into the industry. Thank you so much, this was fantastic.
wow this is genuine high quality content
I really enjoyed this video! I love your channel!
Always so much fun to talk about wine with Peter… bright and humble. And Pat manages to capture both the fun and the wisdom in this episode. Such an honor to be with these heroes of mine… thanks for the opportunity! 🙏
It’s always wonderful to do anything wine related with you, Luiz! Thank you for helping to make this a fun and informative video!
Another awesome video doctor Farrell. I honestly had a lot of fun watching it, great job to both you and Bernadette
항상 잘 보고있습니다~~ 콘텐츠가 고급이라 너무 좋아요
감사합니다 ☺️ 다음 영상도 기대해주세요!
Pat, I'm American, living in Europe and have only gotten into wines after moving here. I absolutely adore your channel and it makes me so proud as an American to know our wines are killing it beyond the west coast (and I'm a Californian). Keep up the great work!!
Good educational video with Korean subtitle, It's very good! Thumbs up
감사합니다 ! 영상 봐주셔서 감사합니다 ☺️
So much vivid information about 'minerality' as well as humor.
This is great content. Now I make sense what you want to do beyond the Wineking channel. Please keep moving forward. Thank you.
This is the best informative video about the behavior of soil and water for wine making and minerality!
and the other stories are quite interesting and fun🤣🤣
Great video. Thank you.
와인 테이스팅을 하면서 평가하는것도 좋지만 이렇게 직접 와이너리에 가서 와인메이커를 만나며 와인에 대한 심도있는 대화영상도 정말 의미있는거 같아요. 시간가는줄 모르고 봤네요.
감사합니다! 많이 봐주세요~ 패트릭 마스터님에게 질문 있으시면 언제든지 댓글에 남겨주세요~😃😃
Great video Pat. Fox Run is definitely on my stop list for this October!
Excellent video, very informative!! Thank you for sharing this, I wish I could have been there!
Such a valuable video! So fun and very informative!
Fox Run is not just a great place for wine, it's also a great place to eat and pair the wine with food. A must in the Finger Lakes. We usually visit 4-6 times a year.
Thank you sir!
Such a fun and informative conversation. Thanks for inviting us inside your lab to listen in on your extemporaneous wine lessons!
Absolutely love Peter’s strong stance on minerality. It’s informed positions like this that elevates conversation around a nebulous topic like tasting wine that weeds out some of the BS. I hope his words draw some critics in the comments! While I’ve never had a riesling with as much bottle age as you’re all enjoying there Fox Run is the first riesling I’ve ever tasted and I’m always happy to drink it and recommend it. -Chris
Hello Dr.Farrell. The opinion about terroir is very interesting. Can you suggest some publications(paper or book) about water stress and terroir?
Fascinating that we still don´t really know what the fuck actually makes a wine tastes good. I like the word "minerality" because it is kind of vague and so it is open for further discussion about the wine, but also allows guys like me to talk about the wine even if you can not pin point the exact taste. I like that you highlight important words, keep it up and keep more videos coming!=)
Humphrey Bogart was a great spitter. Just watch the Maltese Falcon 😆. Great dialogue and terrific chemistry you guys have Pat!!!!
The point you make about terms like saline being used to describe wines in an analog or approachable way is spot on. Sometimes the biggest struggle is translating tase to words especially when talking to a consumer who hasn't got the full vocabulary of wine tasting terms in their head! Really interesting chat about minerality!
패트릭 스승님이 극찬하신 리슬링 와인이라니!
정말로 꼭 한번 마셔보고 싶어요~😍😍😍
그리고 패트릭 스승님의 영상을 계속해서 보면 볼수록 와인에 대한 생각의 깊이와 넓이가 커가는것 같아서 무척이나 뿌듯합니다!ㅎㅎㅎ
굉장히 훌륭한 와인입니다 리슬링이지만 상세르나 고급 샤블리같은 고급스러운 맛이 납니다 😃😃
패트릭 마스터님도 한국 구독자 분들과 많이 교류하고 싶어하시니 댓글 많이 남겨주시고 질문도 많이 해주세요~
Aaah now I probably know why I almost always go to «wet stone» when I smell white wines. Sulphur components huh… Great videos lately btw. Looking forward to what you do in the future.
"smackdown of the other wines" I need to schedule a visit to Fox Run this fall... the story of flying over experts for mentoring would be such a luxury to have... hope some experts will be willing to just do a Zoom call as I do for my clients... ;)
One grape varietal that has a distinctive saltiness is autoctone where I live (Switzerland): The grape is called "Petite Arvine" and mainly grows in the Valais which lies in the Southwest.
I’ve had it and it can be delicious!
나무에 있어 좋은 조건의 토양과 기후에 대한 지식을 접하니 마치 제 전공 수업의 개론을 듣는 느낌이어서 흥미로웠네요ㅎ
피터 벨 와인메이커가 전직 교수님이여서 그런지 정말로 그렇네요 😄😄
Finger Lakes Rieslings - right up there with the best in the world. Still love the Gewurztraminer better. Yum.
Hi love the new channel pat…been a fan since watching u with jay and mr koff….hope it goes from strength to strength…just a thought since I’m from England may u do any tasting vids on British wine they really are getting better and better.regards😍
The problem is they’re very rare here. That said, my good friend and fellow master of wine blind tasted me on a 2014 vintage sparking wine from England. I thought that it was either a very good nonvintage or a vintage having some years of bottle age to account for the toasty notes. I wasn’t surprised to see that it was English. Such a session would be a paid masterclass taking place either in London or at an English winery/vineyard.
@@dr.patfarrellmasterofwine1496 thanx for reply maybe I could drum up some support for such an adventure over the pond keep u posted….👍
Good!
감사합니다 😊😊
Go Rutherglen! Aussie Aussie Aussie!
We’ll dona masterclass once we have a school.
Donna should be gonna
Why only for wine, soil is affect the grapes dramatically. that was my main curiocity thanks
Soil affects all agricultural products.
장인은 토양을 탓하지 않는다.. 근데 보통 훌륭한 와인메이커들은 좋은 토양과 좋은 기후에서 재배하는듯 해요 😂
그런것 같습니다 그래서인지 직접 비교해보면서 답을 얻은 피터 벨의 의견은 굉장히 인상적이네요 😊😊
A good Riesling is liquid gold. Unfortunately where I work, we sell $6.00 Riesling plonk that people buy and like. Ugggh.
As long as it makes them happy!
첫댓글~ 영광~~
빨리 와주셔서 감사합니다 ☺️☺️
There are some ambiguous expressions for amateur. I think these are minerals(white or red), savory(red) and oxidative(especially for champagne), etc..
If the circumstance allows, please explain some vague words on youtube.
I always appreciate your video. Thanks!
Mineral- think of the smell of wet stones just as a rain falls. Savory is something not sweet and fruity. Oxidative for Champagne ranges from toasty (good) to having notes of varnish (less good).
토양의 성분이 영향을 끼치지는 않지만, 토양 자체는 중요한 요소군요 ㅎㅎㅎㅎ
중요하죠 ! 하지만 여기서 말하는 가장 중요한 요소는 바로 와인메이커입니다😊😊
토양은 열기, 수분 등등 포도나무의 생장에 엄청난 영향을 줍니다. 결국 기후, 토양, 양조실력이 합쳐진 천지인논리가 맞는 말인거죠.
@@aglio4042 맞습니다 좋은댓글 써주셔서 감사합니다 😄😄
"walking away from the word Riesling lately" Never heard of, who/what is walking away from the word Riesling and what are they using instead ?
I think Peter meant some producers are calling their 100% Riesling Wine by another name “White wine” in the hope of attracting a larger market of consumers. At least, that’s my take on it and what I have noticed on bottles from the Finger Lakes. Maybe I’ll be able to reach him for a response.
Thank you, both for the reply and for the excellent video!
Interesting that markets are so different.
Here (Sweden), I believe Riesling is a fairly well-known and loved grape. Primarily Riesling from Germany and other European countries but according to the sales statistics from Systembolaget(*) even when it comes to wines from the US - the most sold white wine in bottles happens to be a Riesling (specifically Kung Fu Girl Riesling from Washington State).
Wines from the Finger Lakes are extremely rare here, so I was delighted to see Oscar (in the previous video) mentioning Sweden as one of the countries they will start exporting to. When marketing Riesling here, I believe they would do themselves a huge disservice not calling their Riesling Riesling.
(*) The Swedish government-owned liquor store chain with the only retail stores allowed to sell alcoholic beverages in Sweden.
Kung Fu Girl is very popular here today but it doesn’t taste like a classic Riesling whereas many of the Finger Lake wines do. Approximately how much is the Kung Fu Girl in Sweden?
Then I really want to try some Finger Lake wines as I assume I would appreciate them more than I do Kung Fu Girl. Kung Fu Girl is fairly cheap here even though it is imported from the US; a bottle costs about US $16 at Systembolaget. It seems Systembolaget sold a bit over 200 000 bottles of Kung Fu Girl last year, so I guess the importer got some volume discount.
토양은 와인에 영향을 주지 않는다 아마 많은 사람들이 고개를 갸웃할수도 있고 저같이 긍정적으로 받아들이는 사람도 있을것 같네요 mw 로서의 의견은 어떤지도 궁금하네요
사실 토양의 성분이 물에 용해되 포도나무 뿌리에서 삼투현상으로 전달되는 일반적인 원리인데, 당연히 토양성분이 물에 의해 포도나무로 전달될꺼라는 생각의 맹점을 집어 주신것 같네요.
예를들어, 토양에 없는 성분이라도 물에 이미 녹아있는 무기염류가 있다면 포도나무가 그 미네랄을 흡수할 수 있는 것처럼 관개가 허용되면 실질적으로 물을 주는 와인메이커의 역량이 반영된다는 이야기인것 같습니다.
피터벨의 발언은 토양도 있고 물도 있고 여러가지가 있지만 다 제쳐두고 결국엔 와인메이커의 수준이 와인의 퀄리티를 결정한다는 의미입니다 😊😊
경험적으로 밭의 입지조건 (토양, 배수 기타 등등)이 와인의 품질에 영향을 준다는 것은 알려져 있었지만 토양의 성분이 그대로 와인에 반영되는가에 대해서는 많은 다른 견해들이 있습니다. 일례로 프랑스 과학자 제라르 세갱(Gerard Seguin)은 보르도 지방의 토양 성분과 와인 성분을 수집 조사했습니다만, 토양의 성분비와 와인성분비간에 유의할만한 연관관계를 찾을 수 없다고 결론 내렸습니다.
@@magnum1062 혹시...ㅁㄱㅇ님?😃
@@magnum1062 항상 좋은 댓글 써주셔서 감사합니다! 여기서 많은 지식 나눠주세요😄😄