10. Alistar's Q, Pulverize 9. Darius's E, Apprehend. 8. Janna's Q, Howling Gale 7. Gragas's E. Body Slam 6. Shen's E, Shadow Dash 5. Cho'Gath's Q, Rupture 4. Zac's E, Elastic Slingshot 3. Rek'Sai's W, Burrow/ Unburrow 2. Nasus's and Veigar's Qs, Siphoning Strike and Baleful Strike, respectively. 1. Blitzcrank's Q, Rocket Grab There you go, I just saved 13 minutes of your time.
***** Nobody has any duties or obligations to watch his video. Most of the video is boring rambling about the ability in order to give the article credibility. I posted this so other people could see the same content without wasting 13 minutes.
Have to disagree a bit on this one, Fizz's E and Shaco's Q definitely are stronger than alot of abilities on that list. Your number 1 was prob a good choice though.
i'd have to say no for shaco, yeah he gets stealth, a dash and a crit but its not game changing, build tank and you do nothing, but damage and you get blown up...its just a ganking tool
***** Yeah but imagine that ability on other champions, it's not about the champion and the ability, it's just the ability. It's an instant stealth which lets you dash over any wall. That's really strong, imagine that on any other champion, would be broken. That's what we are talking about here.
FLUXBEAM well not really, its about the whole champion, as he states with blitz, the q is so powerful that the rest of his kit is...meh. he also states with ali and gragas that its reliant on other things
well I havent seen an ap thresh since season 2 so 200 dmg really isn't much at all... and I'm not even sure if it stays up for much longer, seems about the same time... and obvously you cannot break the veigar walls by walking through them
what about threshs passive? free armor and ap. thats a tanky veigar. just play him full ap. or with some mr. you got your tankstats and your dmg with your ap
Same, Dark Passage is such an absurdly powerful ability, its really a shame they left it out for "AoE displacement #4" Likewise I'm surprised that Morgana's Dark Shield didn't make an appearance, because CC immunity that can only be broken by casters is a pretty absurd ability. Also Ashe's Hawkshot should have at least been an honorable mention, since a global ranged Vision Check is incredible.
Honestly I was expecting Veigar's E, Event Horizon on this list, maybe even on number 1 spot. When I look at your list, all of these skills have multiple uses. However, Event Horizon has more utility than all of these skills. I will list them here so you guys can understand better how powerful this skill actually is. -The most basic use is to catch a lone target. Veigar's Event Horizon excels at picks because different to all abilities in these lists, you do not have to actually hit the stun on the target. Even just encircling them forces a Flash at the least or causes certain death if your team is behind you. -Veigar excels at sieging towers. Just putting the cage near the tower it directly nullifies any counter engages the enemy can do while you take the turret down. Again, you do not need to stun them, the cage stays there for 3 seconds. -You can peel your ADC very easily by just encircling them. This will nullify all but very few engages any assassin can use on your carry. -Fourth, during a teamfight if your team has an advantaged position you can use the cage to divide the enemy team itself, as some will be left before, some in, and some out of the cage. -Fifth, the cage will cover all of most choke points in the jungle, making it a perfect disengage tool if someone is caught out of position. -And above all of these, the most basic fact that you can stun an entire team. Unless all 5 players are grouped together, Veigar's Event Horizon is the only basic ability with the potential to stun an entire team, which makes it almost as powerful as an Amumu ultimate, which is considered one of the best ultimates. Difference is, Event Horizon only has 8.4 second cooldown at 45% CDR. Need I say more?
I think, veigars stun deserves to be on the list. It has a moment before it is active, but still, it is a better thresh ult, stunning everyone, knocking them out of dashes, zoning the whole enemy team, it's just overpowered in my opinion.
ekko w is not for sure. cause even high elo player cant pull off the stun consistently. is more of a shield with extra dmg. fizz e is overloaded. i dont know about yasuo's w... i feel that yasuo has his power fairly even distributed on all his abilities.
Ekko w got gutted and it's pretty hard to land. Fizz e should be on there imo and other abilities are better then yasuo w. imo fiora w should've been #1
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I still think that Thresh's Q is much more better than Blitzcrank's Q. Blitzcranks Q can be considered a better ability when they are compared without thinking of the champion. (can be considered, not is) But Blitzcranks Q has almost only one usage: hook someone and then they die. Sure there are sometimes situations where you are away from your ADC and you Q the enemy near your ADC, but these kinda situations dont come across very often. Thresh hook has a variety of uses: engage, disengage, gapclose... And when you consider his abilities his Q has even more uses: you can use it to get to the middle of the fight and ult, you can ensure your E and if you think about it, if a Thresh hooks an enemy from max distance and drags them as long as he can, than jumps and throws the enemy back with his E, that's almost the range of a Blitzcrank Q, that also lets you chase your opponent even further because youre behind of your enemy. And you can use other units such as Neutral Camps to escape with Thresh. Another cool thing is Thresh can also create a sole target by hooking the target and then knocking away other enemies behind the target, creating an opportunity to engage the sole target that you pulled without getting initiated on.
blitz can't choose whether he wants to engage or not after the hook. For instance, if you blitz and you hit a 1000 stack nasus you've basically lost the game for your team, if a thresh did the the same he can choose not to engage on it and inside just use it as soft harass and poke which is infinitely better than losing the game off of a blitz hook.
Your logic being Nasus's q being stronger than veigar's q makes no sense. Since veigar's q effects all his spells, wouldn't that make him better because it makes him universally better while nasus's q only effects his q. Realistically nasus's q will probably do more damage than veigar's just because nas gain's 3 damage and veig only gets 1 if he kills 2 creeps with his, but veigar makes every one of his abilities better than nasus's.
Great list, Jer! but I think Morgana's deserves a spot in the top 10. Not to be affected by any kind of cc is just INSANELY STRONG! It's can't WIN a game by itself as Blitz's hook, but it can definitely NOT LOOSE a game, by saving high priority targets from ambushes.
I agree with most of this list but I think Pantheons W would be a great contender, since its point and click + nuke + gap closer + stun, and if that wasn't strong enough it even resets his passive
I'm kind of surprised tahm's w wasn't mentioned. No explanation needed, but here you go. Tons of dmg, cc, or saving a team mate. I was also suprised pantheon's w wan't mentioned. Dmg, cc, click to win engage, and resetting his passive. Most champs have some crazy powerful ability that might be worth a spot on this list. Lets think of a champion who doesn't have a single ability that dominates their kit.
There is an ability you forgot, Shen's Q early game can do a minimum of 250 damage to a maximum of 400 damage based on your ad and penetration, and i am talking about level 1.
Honorable Mention! Yasuo Q Acts as a second auto attack Can hit multiple targets and apply on hit effects and provides a multi man skillshot knockup (similar to Janna Q) nice vid Jeremy
+No Google I don't want to use my real name Idk man, pick a card is just so versatile. Used for sustain, wave clear, and a point and click, pretty hefty stun.
I still think Broken Wings on Riven is more than an honorable mention. That ability is basically a dash, an auto attack reset, an auto attack enhancer, an engagement tool, CC, and an escape tool in that it can jump walls on the 3rd cast. It's literally some champions entire kits built into one insane ability. How is that only an honorable mention?
No, actually Ali is the only INSTANT AOE knockup Cho has a delay Yasuo, able to be dodged Fizz ult, able to dodge Blitz E, you can dodge the hook, plus it doesn't keep you in the air all that long Janna, able to dodge But with Ali, if he's on you, then you can insure you're gonna get knocked airborne unless he's oom
Plus Janna's can be instant cast AND has actual range. This is supposed to be a video about the strongest basic abilities, not "hey this ability is really great and useful if you have this other ability that makes it work!".
I think some of these should have been on the list. -Morgana shield -Fizz E -Ekko E -Morgana Q -Rengar Q -Yasuo W These all are very powerful, and some of them are powerful at really low cooldown.
I Think Pantheon W stun is one of the strongest as well: Very fast gapcloser, a 1-sec stun, refreshes an auto-attack blocking passive, AND is point and click with a decent range for only 55 mana. It has everything most champs want: speed, offensive mobility, utility CC, defensive procing, low mana cost, and ease of use.
Illaoi's E: In lane it gives you absolute dominance if you manage to land it close to your tentacles and will make the jungler think twice about ganking when you can grab a spirit. It can set you up for easy double kills and get you some surprise kills as well if you force someone out of lane with it. In sieges, when you have a lot of AD and land it on a carry you can immediately remove them from the defense or ult out of sight, to surprise and kill them. And finally, during fights it enables you to do so much more damge simply by having the soul around.
titanic hydra gives him more damage depending on health. sure it doesnt increase the damage you will deal with your q or your ult, but every autoattack becomes stronger when you kill anything at all and have titanic hydra
I'm gonna make a a few predictions right here. I predict that these are on this list: Shaco's Q Ezreal's E Alistar's Q Fizz's E Blitz's Q Idunno any more
I thought graves e would be in there since it can stack 4 times for extra armor and mr plus the bonus can even reach 120 so he can easily solo drag late game.
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Things that should've been on the list: Nasus w (longest cc in the game, virtually a free exhuast that can be permanently cast on target), Fizz e (troll pole is just absurd, in every way, it does really good dmg, makes you invulnerable, slows, and is a pretty nice dash), Shaco q (If Shaco's other abilities were better his q would make him down right broken. Invis, free flash, added on hit dmg, and it lasts for quite a long time), and Leblanc's w (mobility, mobility, mobility many pros have said that mobility is the best in the game, and that is part of the reason for Leblanc's long history of competitive dominance. Having an instant dash that can be used twice, makes it virtually impossible to know where Leblanc will be at any moment, and provides for an INSANE amount of outplays.)
No Fizz E No Shaco Q No LeBlanc W No Veigar E No Jax E No Illaoi E Instead u give us shit like Gragas bodyslam? Janna Nado, Cho'gaths knockup? I don't always agree with your lists but often I can see where u come from, this is just plain bs bronze ignorance lol
Shaco Q. Lol, not that big a deal Leblanc W. If you're not paying attention and coordinating with your team its' extremely easy to bait her to TP back or just to kill her from being scared to TP back. Not a big deal Fizz E. Yea that shoulda been there for sure Jax E: Not really bad, at all. Small stun, can just escape while he's doing it. Illaoi E: LOL Really? Most of the time it barely even does that much damage because they actually know how to stop her, or get out and know how to dodge something like, that's not even all that good. Also He's been in Plat before so i dont think this is Bronze bs, probably your bronze bs lmao
SunDragon Bro Shaco Q, 3.5 sec invis, flash and autocrit on next attack. I'd say that's pretty strong LeBlanc W, ton of AoE burst damage, tons of mobility Fizz E: no more comment needed Jax E, AoE stun that also blocks all AA for 1.5 sec Illaoi E, ups illaoi healing by a lot, and makes an enemy disengage during tf.
SunDragon Bro It's not cus an ability is overloaded that a champ is. Shaco's other abilities are pretty weak, Leblanc doesn't do well in this meta as an assassin, same with fizz, Jax actually does get played from time to time but gets outdone. Veigar takes long to get strong and LCS tends to finish games fast
My top 3 basic abilities in LoL are: 3. Yasuo windwall, able to block pretty much anything for a whole teamfight, while your team can do whatever they want. 2. Yasuo Q, an On-Hit effect that deals bonus - ranged - aoe dmg with no cooldown at all. 1. Yasuo E, a Dash with 1.xx seconds cooldown that deals damage and gets you a shield to block incoming damage. Guess what the best ultimate ingame is! nvm this one is not placed by yasuo....^^
Nope, i just hate that champion more than anything else. I have mastery score 3+ with every single champion, except yasuo... i dont give him a single game
hey jeremy, im a huge fan of your channel, but i have a quick question, just wondering why in your videos u say things like "we decided..." i thought u worked on these vids content by yourself, or do u have a team that helps out with the content creation? either way keep up the great vids, i was just wondering out of curiousity
Ezreal E - Khazix E - Zac E - Darius Q - Fizz E - Blitz Q - Nidalee W - Irelia E - Mundo Q - Shaco Q (others that could concievably be on the list, jax w, irelia q, LB w, Yi Q, Shen E)
I agree that fizz E can be toxic. But it's nowhere as bad as a blitzcrank grab. In a team fight fizz have to get kills to do so much damage. Where as a o.k blitzcrank can help the team with his grabs. Heck a good blitzcrank vs a good fizz will shut down a fizz in a team fight. He can hide in the bush, and wait for fizz to come, pull him in, and knock him up, in a team fight.
Best Ability in LoL: Annie's E, Useless Stack. This ability is never used for damage reduction, but it costs almost no mana and gives you a passive stack.
Aurelion sol q is a giant sized aoe stun that can 5 champions up to 3 sec at a low cd, his e is a twisted fate ult, his w is the strongest waveclear ability in the game, for the cost at he cant hide in bush, thats what an underated champion means.
Just 1 thing, Pantheon E - most power full basic ability in the game. 1st it is a gap closer - checked. 2nd it is a stun - checked. 3rd it is passive refresh and if you have 3 stacks it is double passive - checked. 4th it is aa reset - checked.
I really think that, althought it might not be in the top 10, shaco's q is pretty insane; instant flash/invisibility/secured crit, and no more that 10 sexs cooldown. It has so many uses, and leads to an incredible amount of plays. I just love it xD
I would have included Fiora's W Riposte as at least an honorable mention. It gives her the ability to dodge ANY other ability in the game, including a Caitlyn ult that would finish her off, or a Bard ult that would trap her to likely doom. Plus the slow and upgraded stun for avoiding crowd control gives ridiculous room for outplay.
I made a top 20 list of most powerful basic abilities in the game and other than Blitz hook which came in at 19th most powerful and Siphoning Strike which was 15th, literally none of these were even in it... ----- 20. Nasus Wither. 19. Blitz Hook. 18. Yi's Alpha Strike. 17. Ekko's Stun. 16. Tahm Kench's Thick Skin. 15. Siphoning Strike. 14. Morgana's Snare. 13. Chogath's Silence. 12. Trundle Pillar. 11. Thresh's Flay. 10. Yasuo's Dash. 9. Veigar's Stun. 8. Thresh's Lantern. 7. Zilean's Slow/Haste. 6. Karthus' Lay Waste. 5. Soraka Heal. 4. Morgana's Shield. 3. Tahm Kench's Devour. 2. Ryze Snare. 1. Heimer Turrets. ----- There isn't a single ability in the entire game which changes the face of the map as much as Heimerdinger's Turrets to the point where you're not actually fighting Heimerdinger anymore, the entire game turns into a game of kill the turrets, and if you can't do that you automatically lose the game.
sivir's e, now that's something she was common pick in worlds 2015... mention the HUGE DISADVANTAGE of blitzcranks' q that is pulling tanky cc like amumu. Even if you target adc with your hook, such champs as amumu can easily intentionally flash to blitz q to get satisfyingly pulled into ur team and win the whole game with single press of the button...
Where would you guys Diana's shield at?It protects you, damages enemies, and if you proc all the spheres, then the shield doubles. It's not really game-changing, but for a basic ability, it's very good for duels.
Pre rework sion Q was one of the most powerful skill in the game. Ranged, point and click, stun for 1.5 sec, that deals massive magic damage, also had a 1.2x or higher AP ratio.
I dont understand why Veigar`s cage stun isnt on this list, i mean all the things said about Blitz hook winning a game could easily have been the cage instead
Okay, good list but Fizz's E and Garen's Q should be on there. Garen's Q, has the speed utility, a silence CC and an enhanced auto attack and an auto attack resetter. For a basic ability that does so many things it needs to be on this list. Fizz's E is even stronger. It's scales with 100% AP, can dodge any CC, has a slow, is a gap closer, and grants him the ability to hop over walls. These abilities do soooo much for a single ability when compared to similar abilities that only do one of these.
In my opinion this list is lacking: Fizz's Playfull / Trickster (E) Shaco's Deceive (Q) Twisted Fate's Pick a Card (W) And most importantly, Yasuo's Wind Wall (W). With an honourable mention to Morgana's Black Shield (E).
I would argue Zilean's Q because it can stun a group of enemies for 1.5 seconds and can have a like 4-5 second cooldown along with being comparable in damage to cho's rupture
According to me, this was a great list, since we can't all have the same opinions, I can't expect TOO much. But, like... where's Fizz E? Free Zhonya's in my eyes. That's the only one I could think of that I can say for sure most people with agree with me on, then I have some own opinions, like Maokai W and stuff, but I feel like most people would disagree on that.
Taliyah also became rly strong. It has impact damage, slow effect, zone control, super high damage if you land your w or they dash into it and the remaining traps also deal damage after 4 seconds. this is also a lot in one skill
Firstly that Gragas deserves more credit for that madlife e flash against Kayle around 5:08. Secondly I really like Maoki's basic abilities. All could be honorable mentions. Q is a fairly consistent low cooldown instant aoe knockup. Shorter range but has the slow bonus. His w is a targeted hard cc root for up to 2 seconds that is also a gap closer and even grants him some invulnerability time. Then his e is a free ward every dozen seconds with a slow. And unlike reksai the enemy doesn't have to move, talk about never face checking again.
The damn lantern dude! Thresh lantern can be used to provide vision, a shield, an escape tool, it's considered terrain, you can use it to bait ganks and helps you get those delicious souls.
I agree mostly with this list, but I'd see Fizz' E in this list aswell. It gives you a hell lot of mobility - specially late game - by letting you jump over walls, which lets it act like a Mini-Flash, and it gives you an insane amount of damage with it's basic damage + scaling. And on top of that, it acts like a Mini-Zhonyas which makes you untargetable for a specific amount of time that you can choose (by hitting E earlier or later). And if that wasn't enough, it also slows the enemy for a short amount of time, making it easier to basic attack them. And if you say that wasn't enough aswell, at Level 18 it has a cool down about 4 seconds. Just because of his E most of his kit got pretty much nerfed to the ground, mostly damage wise, and he still is viable with it. And the fact that it even gets more powerful inside of his kit, since he technically has two gapclose, there is only one champion that has a Mini-Zhonyas inside of his basic abilities - Vladimir's W - which is not nearly as strong as Fizz' E. Every other champion that has a Zhonyas like effect (Lissandra, Bard, Taric, Kayle) have it as an ultimate abilite AND then it rarely does anything besides it (but Lissandra - it either bursts an enemy and slows her or makes huge damage and slows enemies and heals her).
What about Ahri's charm ability? it's like a mini insec, cc's you for a very long time and deals a fair amout of damage. Also, I think Twisted Fate's pick a card ability is insane. you can use it to stay in lane, deal AoE damage to grouped enemies, and the gold card is a 1.5 - 2.5 seconds stun on a basic ability with a very very low cooldown.
I think Thresh's E, flay, probably should've made the list. Auto attack damage increase, knockback(in choosable directions), a slow, capable of stopping dashes. It's tricky, but its really strong.
I feel like Taliyah's W should be included in there, as well, since it is basically Cho'Gath's Rupture, but you can actually knock enemies in a specific direction.
I think the huge duration and AOE stun of Veigar E should have at least got it an honourable mention. For a basic ability it can be such a game changer
People do this all the time, talking about Nasus and Veigar being 'Infinite'.Hello, Sion and Thresh.Sion can stack Infinite HP.Thresh off his Flay can stack... Infinite Armor, AP AND Basic Attack Damage.I mean, Thresh gets 3 Infinites off of One Ability, and gets to increase both his Abilities and his Basic Attacks off of it as all of his Abilities are AP-BasedSo Nasus only increases Damage on Q. Veigar gains AP. Sion gains HP.But Thresh... he gets Basic Attack, AP and Armor. Just gotta pick up those Souls.
One bad thing about Blitz, his passive on his ult. I cant count how many times i have accidentally stolen minions, aggroed Baron or Dragon, or a jungle camp. And when running away, well when low enough, ult passive aggro enemy camp, now your dead not by your fault
I think you guys forgot to mention Jarvan Iv's E+Q and flash...He does exactly the same thing with gragas plus the knockup goes along with his Q armor reduction
Cho W, Yas W, Fizz E, Jayce Q + E, Nasus W and Fiora W are just some of the abilities that should've been on the list, especially in the place of some like Darius E
I personally think ezreal arcane shift is super strong because it's not just a flash with a super short cd but also it can't be cancelled so it can be used to void pulls such as blitz grab
In my opinion as someone who has put a lot of time into both champions, Sejuani's Q is a better version of Gragas's E, but only for a small reason in that she isn't stopped by creeps. It still does pretty good damage, interracts with flash the same way, and she has just as good follow up from her R that, unlike Gragas, would keep her directly in the front line of a fight. Both are game changing and have their own merits, but I feel Sejuani's should've been in the list over Gragas's, or they should have shared the spot like the Veigar and Nasus Qs.
I guess people in the comments forgot to realize on how some of the stun based abilities can be countered simply by using qss considering that most abilities mentioned in the video were knock ups which cannot usually be qss'ed
I would like to see a passives list (unless there is one and I'm forgetting), because I would be interested where you'd put thresh's since I'll be it it's a lot weaker than Nasus/Viegar q it still accomplishes the same task.
I'm actually amazed thresh's E isn't up here. Its a directional knockback (or knock in) that cancels dashes, and slows, as well as gives him bonus auto damage that stacks up with both souls and AD, yes his hook is really important but flay is one of the abilities that makes thresh um thresh
I can honestly agree that Blitzcrank's Q is the most powerful non-ult in the game... which is exactly why it needs to be nerfed. HARD. I mean, come on... a 100% AP scaling on an ability that can absolutely destroy anyone it hits because of the 4 second long CC combo Blitzcrank has, and he's not even SUPPOSED to build AP? Blitzcrank's hook leaves you with only two options: Flash instantly, or die. I feel like because of how powerful the ability itself is, it shouldn't do NEARLY the damage it does if it does any damage at all.
I think Zed's W is really powerfu basic ability since it mimics his spells and gives him high bonus ad. And Yasuo's Windwall since it can block every projectile and potentially block an enemy team's wombo combo. And Bard's E since it can make your team mobile.
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No Fizz E? Really? that ability is overloaded af
You mean the whole champion.
They forgot, I just see that, a fkin free Zonhya
he should have replaced the darius E to a Fizz E. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
ikr, I was like really you think janna nado is better than troll pole?
Yeah, I really missed that I thought it would be number one
10. Alistar's Q, Pulverize
9. Darius's E, Apprehend.
8. Janna's Q, Howling Gale
7. Gragas's E. Body Slam
6. Shen's E, Shadow Dash
5. Cho'Gath's Q, Rupture
4. Zac's E, Elastic Slingshot
3. Rek'Sai's W, Burrow/ Unburrow
2. Nasus's and Veigar's Qs, Siphoning Strike and Baleful Strike, respectively.
1. Blitzcrank's Q, Rocket Grab
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Why do people do this like its some kind of trend. Lol these youtubers put time and effort into making these videos. Just watch it ffs
+kuya Bijvn I can see so the part I'm interested in, instead of the full video. And the UA-camr is still gonna get his visit....
***** Nobody has any duties or obligations to watch his video. Most of the video is boring rambling about the ability in order to give the article credibility. I posted this so other people could see the same content without wasting 13 minutes.
Have to disagree a bit on this one, Fizz's E and Shaco's Q definitely are stronger than alot of abilities on that list. Your number 1 was prob a good choice though.
This. Also I think pick a card is great as well ( tf W), and also Draven Q which is basically dravens damage output
Niels Rasmussen Yeah I agree with TF's pick a card.
i'd have to say no for shaco, yeah he gets stealth, a dash and a crit but its not game changing, build tank and you do nothing, but damage and you get blown up...its just a ganking tool
***** Yeah but imagine that ability on other champions, it's not about the champion and the ability, it's just the ability. It's an instant stealth which lets you dash over any wall. That's really strong, imagine that on any other champion, would be broken. That's what we are talking about here.
FLUXBEAM well not really, its about the whole champion, as he states with blitz, the q is so powerful that the rest of his kit is...meh. he also states with ali and gragas that its reliant on other things
Nobody mentioned Veigar E... it's basically a Tresh ultimate, but ranged, and stuns instead of slows and is on a short cooldown...
Except Thresh's wall does 200 base damage with a 1.0 ap ratio, and it stays up for much longer
well I havent seen an ap thresh since season 2 so 200 dmg really isn't much at all... and I'm not even sure if it stays up for much longer, seems about the same time... and obvously you cannot break the veigar walls by walking through them
its sad that they took away the ulti dmg from thresh I hated that change and the shield change
Exactly! I thought veigar's e would be high on the list.
+Koran Kennedy wait they removed the damage from ult??
I remember I one shot a vayne with ult only having 100 ap xd
"Veigar and Nasus can infinitely gain power."
And Sion.
Everyone forgets Sion :(
Not really, he just gets HP which I mean increases his W damage slightly
And Thresh but you never say that you have the Very late game because of Sion or Thresh as you do with Nasus and Veigar
what about threshs passive? free armor and ap. thats a tanky veigar. just play him full ap. or with some mr. you got your tankstats and your dmg with your ap
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And thresh?
Surprised Thresh lantern wasn't listed. Probably the best escape tool in the game.
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Same, Dark Passage is such an absurdly powerful ability, its really a shame they left it out for "AoE displacement #4" Likewise I'm surprised that Morgana's Dark Shield didn't make an appearance, because CC immunity that can only be broken by casters is a pretty absurd ability. Also Ashe's Hawkshot should have at least been an honorable mention, since a global ranged Vision Check is incredible.
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but its not powerful...unique yes...powerful..mehhh not so
also u can use it for vision and can be teleported to with spell
No Fiora W? Really? Blocks every freaking thing in the game
+Rainbow Echo Not at all.... I riposted ziggs ult facing the opposite direction that it was cast once
BLOCKS ALL INCOMING DAMAGE (Except turrets :^) )
yep...
it can proq her passive and it blocks ALL incoming demage from champions. turrets and minnions not included.
you can also safe yourself fromn ignite ticks with it
Honestly I was expecting Veigar's E, Event Horizon on this list, maybe even on number 1 spot. When I look at your list, all of these skills have multiple uses. However, Event Horizon has more utility than all of these skills. I will list them here so you guys can understand better how powerful this skill actually is.
-The most basic use is to catch a lone target. Veigar's Event Horizon excels at picks because different to all abilities in these lists, you do not have to actually hit the stun on the target. Even just encircling them forces a Flash at the least or causes certain death if your team is behind you.
-Veigar excels at sieging towers. Just putting the cage near the tower it directly nullifies any counter engages the enemy can do while you take the turret down. Again, you do not need to stun them, the cage stays there for 3 seconds.
-You can peel your ADC very easily by just encircling them. This will nullify all but very few engages any assassin can use on your carry.
-Fourth, during a teamfight if your team has an advantaged position you can use the cage to divide the enemy team itself, as some will be left before, some in, and some out of the cage.
-Fifth, the cage will cover all of most choke points in the jungle, making it a perfect disengage tool if someone is caught out of position.
-And above all of these, the most basic fact that you can stun an entire team. Unless all 5 players are grouped together, Veigar's Event Horizon is the only basic ability with the potential to stun an entire team, which makes it almost as powerful as an Amumu ultimate, which is considered one of the best ultimates. Difference is, Event Horizon only has 8.4 second cooldown at 45% CDR.
Need I say more?
I think, veigars stun deserves to be on the list. It has a moment before it is active, but still, it is a better thresh ult, stunning everyone, knocking them out of dashes, zoning the whole enemy team, it's just overpowered in my opinion.
not to mention the cooldowns are ridiculously short
+Engineer 庄熙龙 is that a short joke!?
+Ayoniku LOL well played xD
most people nickname veigars stun the penta setup because if it hits everyone well you should know
Stop it, what if Riot nerfs the e back to 0,5 seconds? It will be useless again.
12:07 or blitz is gonna grab 25/2 master yi that's gonna get 1v5 penta
Stunned and silenced a yi wont do much. Grabbing a tank is a problem though
I don't always land blitz hooks, but when I do, I hook ulted fiddlesticks and wipe my team
+night1952 yea, like grabbing an alistar with teams not too far from eachother xD🙂
i remember a blitz grabbing the amumu in a: amumu, malphite, mf, yasuo, orianna comp
orianna :P
Ekko's w? Fizz's E? Yasuo w?
ekko w is not for sure. cause even high elo player cant pull off the stun consistently. is more of a shield with extra dmg. fizz e is overloaded.
i dont know about yasuo's w... i feel that yasuo has his power fairly even distributed on all his abilities.
Yasuo W have some insane potential... it can potentially be better than Kayle ult or Taric ult (it last longer and also can prevent CC effects)
Ekko w got gutted and it's pretty hard to land. Fizz e should be on there imo and other abilities are better then yasuo w.
imo fiora w should've been #1
+Yuri Lopes Wait. Kalista's old W? I should lived under a rock, when Kalista gets a rework in his W?
Yasuo E?
Every time I start your video I have the urge to reply "What's up Jeremy. It's us guys."
Last time I came this early a girl randomly laughed at me.
Well played sie!
+liri miri sir
Huehehehe
I really expected Veigar's stun here. This ability has made him a contested competitive pick for the support role in the past.
Any mage mains miss me?
Stfu we use morellonomicon now.
we don't need you anymore. you can go back to your grave now
no indeed.
Right in the feels😭
rip kata, youll never be the saem
This vid isn't about ults but can we take a moment to appreciate them
10. Requiem
9. Stand United
8. Paranoia
7. Summon: Tibbers
6. Intervention
5. Death Lotus
4. Curtain Call
3. Crescendo
2. Death Mark
1. Wish
I still think that Thresh's Q is much more better than Blitzcrank's Q.
Blitzcranks Q can be considered a better ability when they are compared without thinking of the champion. (can be considered, not is) But Blitzcranks Q has almost only one usage: hook someone and then they die. Sure there are sometimes situations where you are away from your ADC and you Q the enemy near your ADC, but these kinda situations dont come across very often.
Thresh hook has a variety of uses: engage, disengage, gapclose... And when you consider his abilities his Q has even more uses: you can use it to get to the middle of the fight and ult, you can ensure your E and if you think about it, if a Thresh hooks an enemy from max distance and drags them as long as he can, than jumps and throws the enemy back with his E, that's almost the range of a Blitzcrank Q, that also lets you chase your opponent even further because youre behind of your enemy. And you can use other units such as Neutral Camps to escape with Thresh. Another cool thing is Thresh can also create a sole target by hooking the target and then knocking away other enemies behind the target, creating an opportunity to engage the sole target that you pulled without getting initiated on.
You forgot to say that you can only predict where Thresh will land Q but not see his body moving while Blitz is moving his body when he Q
Thresh's Q has more utility, Blitzcrank's Q wins games by itself.
You just described what blitz's hook does too, ensures the knock up on his e, and guarantees his ultimate landing.
blitz can't choose whether he wants to engage or not after the hook. For instance, if you blitz and you hit a 1000 stack nasus you've basically lost the game for your team, if a thresh did the the same he can choose not to engage on it and inside just use it as soft harass and poke which is infinitely better than losing the game off of a blitz hook.
+Callum Darbyshire Lmao that reminds me of the time the enemy blitz hooked the enemy fed Yi and he one shot us all xD
Damn I would've expected something like Nunu's Q since it allows you to secure basically any dragon or baron when you combo it with smite
Your logic being Nasus's q being stronger than veigar's q makes no sense. Since veigar's q effects all his spells, wouldn't that make him better because it makes him universally better while nasus's q only effects his q. Realistically nasus's q will probably do more damage than veigar's just because nas gain's 3 damage and veig only gets 1 if he kills 2 creeps with his, but veigar makes every one of his abilities better than nasus's.
Great list, Jer! but I think Morgana's deserves a spot in the top 10. Not to be affected by any kind of cc is just INSANELY STRONG! It's can't WIN a game by itself as Blitz's hook, but it can definitely NOT LOOSE a game, by saving high priority targets from ambushes.
Gragas E
Shaco Q
LeBlanc W
Bard E
Bard Q
Morgana Q
Blitzcrank Q
Zed Q
Fiora W
Thresh W
No order but Dark Passage is best
Zed q isn't that strong by itself it's pretty reliant on his W
i agree i would put Fizz's E instead of Zed's Q
I agree with most of this list but I think Pantheons W would be a great contender, since its point and click + nuke + gap closer + stun, and if that wasn't strong enough it even resets his passive
Its not combos w does nothing with no other spell only escape
What about thresh's Lantern? It's one of the most powerful utility abilities in the game, being able to save someone/set up for ganks.
I'm kind of surprised tahm's w wasn't mentioned. No explanation needed, but here you go. Tons of dmg, cc, or saving a team mate.
I was also suprised pantheon's w wan't mentioned. Dmg, cc, click to win engage, and resetting his passive.
Most champs have some crazy powerful ability that might be worth a spot on this list. Lets think of a champion who doesn't have a single ability that dominates their kit.
Zed (w is really power full, but only by allowing his other stuff better combos)
Renekton
Aurelion sol
Jax
Tahms w was mentioned
I didn't see it in the comment section at the time of writing, and it wasn't mentioned in the video.
It was mentioned in the video, if you knew how to pay attention.
There is an ability you forgot, Shen's Q early game can do a minimum of 250 damage to a maximum of 400 damage based on your ad and penetration, and i am talking about level 1.
Are you sure that Zac has the longest dash in the game?
How about Donald trump assistant? A.k.a Taliyah ult?
From all the basic abilities zac has largest, taliyahs ult isnt basic ability
İt is not a dash and not a basic ability deal with it
Aurelion sol E goes farther, although its questionable if its a dash.
Also lee sin Q can go almost as far.
+Gala Balla aurelion sol e aswell right o.O?
im pretty sure talyiah's ult does count as a dash some one should check the interaction with talyiah's e adnd poppy's W
Honorable Mention!
Yasuo Q
Acts as a second auto attack
Can hit multiple targets and apply on hit effects
and provides a multi man skillshot knockup (similar to Janna Q)
nice vid Jeremy
I predict pick a card is number 1
wtf how
***** yes windwall stops it but it's the longest stun in the game (as far as I know) and can restore mana, split push and much more
Pick a card is really good though, probably should've been an honorable mention
+No Google I don't want to use my real name Idk man, pick a card is just so versatile. Used for sustain, wave clear, and a point and click, pretty hefty stun.
uh no, you're an idiot.
I still think Broken Wings on Riven is more than an honorable mention. That ability is basically a dash, an auto attack reset, an auto attack enhancer, an engagement tool, CC, and an escape tool in that it can jump walls on the 3rd cast. It's literally some champions entire kits built into one insane ability. How is that only an honorable mention?
Pulverize is in this but not Playful/Trickster?... Ali needs his W to make his Q effective lmao. Need to swap that there, JGC.
Also his reasoning for it was (instant AOE knockup). Which there are lots of in League of Legends.
No, actually Ali is the only INSTANT AOE knockup
Cho has a delay
Yasuo, able to be dodged
Fizz ult, able to dodge
Blitz E, you can dodge the hook, plus it doesn't keep you in the air all that long
Janna, able to dodge
But with Ali, if he's on you, then you can insure you're gonna get knocked airborne unless he's oom
+iPWN cuziCAN Rek'sai Unburrow. Boom.
Plus Janna's can be instant cast AND has actual range. This is supposed to be a video about the strongest basic abilities, not "hey this ability is really great and useful if you have this other ability that makes it work!".
You dont actually need your w to use your q effectively. You can Q-Flash, less react time for the ennemy.
I think some of these should have been on the list.
-Morgana shield
-Fizz E
-Ekko E
-Morgana Q
-Rengar Q
-Yasuo W
These all are very powerful, and some of them are powerful at really low cooldown.
WHAT ABOUT DRAVEN Q? ITS STRONGER THAN THE MOST ULTI'S
I Think Pantheon W stun is one of the strongest as well: Very fast gapcloser, a 1-sec stun, refreshes an auto-attack blocking passive, AND is point and click with a decent range for only 55 mana. It has everything most champs want: speed, offensive mobility, utility CC, defensive procing, low mana cost, and ease of use.
10,27 tresh stacks souls too :)
it's a passiv not a basic ability :p
+Mugetsu No Ryu oh lol right
and it doesn't stack infinitely
+Adam Hadad Brunell really?
Actually each soul stacked gives him 1 on-hit magic damage thanks to his E, which is a basic ability.
Illaoi's E: In lane it gives you absolute dominance if you manage to land it close to your tentacles and will make the jungler think twice about ganking when you can grab a spirit. It can set you up for easy double kills and get you some surprise kills as well if you force someone out of lane with it. In sieges, when you have a lot of AD and land it on a carry you can immediately remove them from the defense or ult out of sight, to surprise and kill them. And finally, during fights it enables you to do so much more damge simply by having the soul around.
What About Sion's W ? :D it's stacking too
Then nasus q and veigar q would be more op
He doesn't really get stronger with it, he just gets more hp. R.I.P. Atma's Impaler.
Titanic Hydra and Sion's W scale with HP
titanic hydra gives him more damage depending on health. sure it doesnt increase the damage you will deal with your q or your ult, but every autoattack becomes stronger when you kill anything at all and have titanic hydra
Box™ Atma + Titanic would be a great choice :D
I'm gonna make a a few predictions right here.
I predict that these are on this list:
Shaco's Q
Ezreal's E
Alistar's Q
Fizz's E
Blitz's Q
Idunno any more
Fiora´s W is a great ability
I thought graves e would be in there since it can stack 4 times for extra armor and mr plus the bonus can even reach 120 so he can easily solo drag late game.
Magical Journey?
yeah i'm a Bard main and i agree this is a strong ability that can easily change a chase to a kill from bard's team ^^
Magical Journey is VERY USEFUL if the bard knows what he is doing. Some bards out there will use Magical Journey to gank a fed yi xD.If you have time check my channel!
nobody wants to see vayne bitches, get outta here.
good, but definitely not a top 10 ability
Things that should've been on the list: Nasus w (longest cc in the game, virtually a free exhuast that can be permanently cast on target), Fizz e (troll pole is just absurd, in every way, it does really good dmg, makes you invulnerable, slows, and is a pretty nice dash), Shaco q (If Shaco's other abilities were better his q would make him down right broken. Invis, free flash, added on hit dmg, and it lasts for quite a long time), and Leblanc's w (mobility, mobility, mobility many pros have said that mobility is the best in the game, and that is part of the reason for Leblanc's long history of competitive dominance. Having an instant dash that can be used twice, makes it virtually impossible to know where Leblanc will be at any moment, and provides for an INSANE amount of outplays.)
No Fizz E
No Shaco Q
No LeBlanc W
No Veigar E
No Jax E
No Illaoi E
Instead u give us shit like Gragas bodyslam? Janna Nado, Cho'gaths knockup?
I don't always agree with your lists but often I can see where u come from, this is just plain bs bronze ignorance lol
Shaco Q. Lol, not that big a deal
Leblanc W. If you're not paying attention and coordinating with your team its' extremely easy to bait her to TP back or just to kill her from being scared to TP back. Not a big deal
Fizz E. Yea that shoulda been there for sure
Jax E: Not really bad, at all. Small stun, can just escape while he's doing it.
Illaoi E: LOL Really? Most of the time it barely even does that much damage because they actually know how to stop her, or get out and know how to dodge something like, that's not even all that good. Also He's been in Plat before so i dont think this is Bronze bs, probably your bronze bs lmao
Well Howling Gale definitely deserves a spot given its Range, CC type, and CD, but yeah, there are quite a few lackluster picks in this list.
SunDragon Bro Shaco Q, 3.5 sec invis, flash and autocrit on next attack. I'd say that's pretty strong
LeBlanc W, ton of AoE burst damage, tons of mobility
Fizz E: no more comment needed
Jax E, AoE stun that also blocks all AA for 1.5 sec
Illaoi E, ups illaoi healing by a lot, and makes an enemy disengage during tf.
ainevek Yet none of them are even in the pro scene what so ever lol. I haven't seen one in months unless it was scrims
SunDragon Bro It's not cus an ability is overloaded that a champ is. Shaco's other abilities are pretty weak, Leblanc doesn't do well in this meta as an assassin, same with fizz, Jax actually does get played from time to time but gets outdone. Veigar takes long to get strong and LCS tends to finish games fast
My top 3 basic abilities in LoL are:
3. Yasuo windwall, able to block pretty much anything for a whole teamfight, while your team can do whatever they want.
2. Yasuo Q, an On-Hit effect that deals bonus - ranged - aoe dmg with no cooldown at all.
1. Yasuo E, a Dash with 1.xx seconds cooldown that deals damage and gets you a shield to block incoming damage.
Guess what the best ultimate ingame is!
nvm this one is not placed by yasuo....^^
Yas main?
Nope, i just hate that champion more than anything else.
I have mastery score 3+ with every single champion, except yasuo... i dont give him a single game
Jonas Keß XD thats why XD
You´re a nice guy, noone likes yas XD
Shen is the only champ with a taunt.......I AM A RAMMUS PLAYER AND IM OFFENDED
'one of...'
Rammus players unite
galio
galio ult
rammus op
hey jeremy, im a huge fan of your channel, but i have a quick question, just wondering why in your videos u say things like "we decided..." i thought u worked on these vids content by yourself, or do u have a team that helps out with the content creation? either way keep up the great vids, i was just wondering out of curiousity
Stopped watching after he said number 9 was Darius' E.
Nope.
Just nope.
Ezreal E -
Khazix E -
Zac E - Darius Q -
Fizz E -
Blitz Q -
Nidalee W -
Irelia E -
Mundo Q -
Shaco Q
(others that could concievably be on the list, jax w, irelia q, LB w, Yi Q, Shen E)
No yasuo cancer wall cmonBruh
I agree that fizz E can be toxic. But it's nowhere as bad as a blitzcrank grab. In a team fight fizz have to get kills to do so much damage. Where as a o.k blitzcrank can help the team with his grabs. Heck a good blitzcrank vs a good fizz will shut down a fizz in a team fight. He can hide in the bush, and wait for fizz to come, pull him in, and knock him up, in a team fight.
Singeds Q ?
Best Ability in LoL: Annie's E, Useless Stack.
This ability is never used for damage reduction, but it costs almost no mana and gives you a passive stack.
Aurelion sol q is a giant sized aoe stun that can 5 champions up to 3 sec at a low cd, his e is a twisted fate ult, his w is the strongest waveclear ability in the game, for the cost at he cant hide in bush, thats what an underated champion means.
He is broken in high elo and smurf
No Veiger E? The spell that can change games itself?
Just 1 thing, Pantheon E - most power full basic ability in the game.
1st it is a gap closer - checked.
2nd it is a stun - checked.
3rd it is passive refresh and if you have 3 stacks it is double passive - checked.
4th it is aa reset - checked.
I was really expecting to see Bards E in the list somewhere. You wanna talk playmaking potential, Bards your guy.
I really think that, althought it might not be in the top 10, shaco's q is pretty insane; instant flash/invisibility/secured crit, and no more that 10 sexs cooldown. It has so many uses, and leads to an incredible amount of plays. I just love it xD
I would have included Fiora's W Riposte as at least an honorable mention. It gives her the ability to dodge ANY other ability in the game, including a Caitlyn ult that would finish her off, or a Bard ult that would trap her to likely doom. Plus the slow and upgraded stun for avoiding crowd control gives ridiculous room for outplay.
I made a top 20 list of most powerful basic abilities in the game and other than Blitz hook which came in at 19th most powerful and Siphoning Strike which was 15th, literally none of these were even in it...
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20. Nasus Wither. 19. Blitz Hook. 18. Yi's Alpha Strike. 17. Ekko's Stun. 16. Tahm Kench's Thick Skin. 15. Siphoning Strike. 14. Morgana's Snare. 13. Chogath's Silence. 12. Trundle Pillar. 11. Thresh's Flay.
10. Yasuo's Dash. 9. Veigar's Stun. 8. Thresh's Lantern. 7. Zilean's Slow/Haste. 6. Karthus' Lay Waste. 5. Soraka Heal. 4. Morgana's Shield. 3. Tahm Kench's Devour. 2. Ryze Snare. 1. Heimer Turrets.
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There isn't a single ability in the entire game which changes the face of the map as much as Heimerdinger's Turrets to the point where you're not actually fighting Heimerdinger anymore, the entire game turns into a game of kill the turrets, and if you can't do that you automatically lose the game.
sivir's e, now that's something she was common pick in worlds 2015...
mention the HUGE DISADVANTAGE of blitzcranks' q that is pulling tanky cc like amumu. Even if you target adc with your hook, such champs as amumu can easily intentionally flash to blitz q to get satisfyingly pulled into ur team and win the whole game with single press of the button...
Where would you guys Diana's shield at?It protects you, damages enemies, and if you proc all the spheres, then the shield doubles. It's not really game-changing, but for a basic ability, it's very good for duels.
Pre rework sion Q was one of the most powerful skill in the game. Ranged, point and click, stun for 1.5 sec, that deals massive magic damage, also had a 1.2x or higher AP ratio.
thanks for shouting us blitzcrank mains out finally someone understands how hard we have to carry
Fizz's E.
Shaco's Q.
Fiora's W.
Jax's E.
Ekko's W.
These are the abilities I'd add.
I dont understand why Veigar`s cage stun isnt on this list, i mean all the things said about Blitz hook winning a game could easily have been the cage instead
It would have been #1... before it was nerfed. Now it doesn't even rate a mention.
I'm becoming a real fan of your vids Jeremy, keep up the good work!
Bard's Q; Aurelion's Q; Anivia's Q; Irelia's E; Poppy's W; Trundle's E; Thresh's E.
Abilities what are strong enough to be in the "Top10" spot.
Okay, good list but Fizz's E and Garen's Q should be on there. Garen's Q, has the speed utility, a silence CC and an enhanced auto attack and an auto attack resetter. For a basic ability that does so many things it needs to be on this list. Fizz's E is even stronger. It's scales with 100% AP, can dodge any CC, has a slow, is a gap closer, and grants him the ability to hop over walls. These abilities do soooo much for a single ability when compared to similar abilities that only do one of these.
One of my favorites is Quinns E, it's like a 1 stop shop for kiting and can gap close on longer ranged targets as well
In my opinion this list is lacking:
Fizz's Playfull / Trickster (E)
Shaco's Deceive (Q)
Twisted Fate's Pick a Card (W)
And most importantly, Yasuo's Wind Wall (W).
With an honourable mention to Morgana's Black Shield (E).
I would argue Zilean's Q because it can stun a group of enemies for 1.5 seconds and can have a like 4-5 second cooldown along with being comparable in damage to cho's rupture
Zileans Q is strong but you need another ability to achieve the double bomb :/
Zilean's Q can't stun without his W.
the thing is the list doesnt say strongest single ability if the ability needs another ability to help it the ability itself is still getting stronger
zileans bomb doesnt stun without rewind
and alistars q is bad with out w or flash you point is?
Just wanted to ask where you'd rank Lulu's W (Whimsy) and Fiora's W (Parry)
According to me, this was a great list, since we can't all have the same opinions, I can't expect TOO much. But, like... where's Fizz E? Free Zhonya's in my eyes.
That's the only one I could think of that I can say for sure most people with agree with me on, then I have some own opinions, like Maokai W and stuff, but I feel like most people would disagree on that.
Taliyah also became rly strong. It has impact damage, slow effect, zone control, super high damage if you land your w or they dash into it and the remaining traps also deal damage after 4 seconds. this is also a lot in one skill
Firstly that Gragas deserves more credit for that madlife e flash against Kayle around 5:08. Secondly I really like Maoki's basic abilities. All could be honorable mentions. Q is a fairly consistent low cooldown instant aoe knockup. Shorter range but has the slow bonus. His w is a targeted hard cc root for up to 2 seconds that is also a gap closer and even grants him some invulnerability time. Then his e is a free ward every dozen seconds with a slow. And unlike reksai the enemy doesn't have to move, talk about never face checking again.
The damn lantern dude! Thresh lantern can be used to provide vision, a shield, an escape tool, it's considered terrain, you can use it to bait ganks and helps you get those delicious souls.
I agree mostly with this list, but I'd see Fizz' E in this list aswell. It gives you a hell lot of mobility - specially late game - by letting you jump over walls, which lets it act like a Mini-Flash, and it gives you an insane amount of damage with it's basic damage + scaling. And on top of that, it acts like a Mini-Zhonyas which makes you untargetable for a specific amount of time that you can choose (by hitting E earlier or later). And if that wasn't enough, it also slows the enemy for a short amount of time, making it easier to basic attack them. And if you say that wasn't enough aswell, at Level 18 it has a cool down about 4 seconds.
Just because of his E most of his kit got pretty much nerfed to the ground, mostly damage wise, and he still is viable with it. And the fact that it even gets more powerful inside of his kit, since he technically has two gapclose, there is only one champion that has a Mini-Zhonyas inside of his basic abilities - Vladimir's W - which is not nearly as strong as Fizz' E. Every other champion that has a Zhonyas like effect (Lissandra, Bard, Taric, Kayle) have it as an ultimate abilite AND then it rarely does anything besides it (but Lissandra - it either bursts an enemy and slows her or makes huge damage and slows enemies and heals her).
What about Ahri's charm ability? it's like a mini insec, cc's you for a very long time and deals a fair amout of damage. Also, I think Twisted Fate's pick a card ability is insane. you can use it to stay in lane, deal AoE damage to grouped enemies, and the gold card is a 1.5 - 2.5 seconds stun on a basic ability with a very very low cooldown.
Don't forget Kindred now can scale her Q without a cap when she gains more and more stacks from collecting her hunts.
I think Thresh's E, flay, probably should've made the list. Auto attack damage increase, knockback(in choosable directions), a slow, capable of stopping dashes. It's tricky, but its really strong.
I feel like Taliyah's W should be included in there, as well, since it is basically Cho'Gath's Rupture, but you can actually knock enemies in a specific direction.
Hate to ask, but why did you not include twisted W on this list? It is a powerful ability with lots of utility :)
Is this about currently in the game? otherwise I would have expected Veigar's E, Event Horizon, from before they added the delay to it
Tahm Kench's W; it makes allies invulnerable, does 32% max health damage at rank 5, and can shred a fed enemy.
I think the huge duration and AOE stun of Veigar E should have at least got it an honourable mention. For a basic ability it can be such a game changer
People do this all the time, talking about Nasus and Veigar being 'Infinite'.Hello, Sion and Thresh.Sion can stack Infinite HP.Thresh off his Flay can stack... Infinite Armor, AP AND Basic Attack Damage.I mean, Thresh gets 3 Infinites off of One Ability, and gets to increase both his Abilities and his Basic Attacks off of it as all of his Abilities are AP-BasedSo Nasus only increases Damage on Q. Veigar gains AP. Sion gains HP.But Thresh... he gets Basic Attack, AP and Armor. Just gotta pick up those Souls.
One bad thing about Blitz, his passive on his ult. I cant count how many times i have accidentally stolen minions, aggroed Baron or Dragon, or a jungle camp. And when running away, well when low enough, ult passive aggro enemy camp, now your dead not by your fault
I think Shaco's Q is the single best ganking ability in the game. It lets you go invisable and it makes you unpredictable when you will gank
I think you guys forgot to mention Jarvan Iv's E+Q and flash...He does exactly the same thing with gragas plus the knockup goes along with his Q armor reduction
Cho W, Yas W, Fizz E, Jayce Q + E, Nasus W and Fiora W are just some of the abilities that should've been on the list, especially in the place of some like Darius E
so, i have been wondering, how good is teemos blinding dart?
I personally think ezreal arcane shift is super strong because it's not just a flash with a super short cd but also it can't be cancelled so it can be used to void pulls such as blitz grab
how about thresh w? its a good engage/disengage tool making it extremely versatile
In my opinion as someone who has put a lot of time into both champions, Sejuani's Q is a better version of Gragas's E, but only for a small reason in that she isn't stopped by creeps. It still does pretty good damage, interracts with flash the same way, and she has just as good follow up from her R that, unlike Gragas, would keep her directly in the front line of a fight. Both are game changing and have their own merits, but I feel Sejuani's should've been in the list over Gragas's, or they should have shared the spot like the Veigar and Nasus Qs.
I guess people in the comments forgot to realize on how some of the stun based abilities can be countered simply by using qss considering that most abilities mentioned in the video were knock ups which cannot usually be qss'ed
I would like to see a passives list (unless there is one and I'm forgetting), because I would be interested where you'd put thresh's since I'll be it it's a lot weaker than Nasus/Viegar q it still accomplishes the same task.
I'm actually amazed thresh's E isn't up here. Its a directional knockback (or knock in) that cancels dashes, and slows, as well as gives him bonus auto damage that stacks up with both souls and AD, yes his hook is really important but flay is one of the abilities that makes thresh um thresh
I subscribed the second I heard you say "if you don't like the video, hit the dislike button" ... Somehow, I really respect that
I can honestly agree that Blitzcrank's Q is the most powerful non-ult in the game... which is exactly why it needs to be nerfed. HARD. I mean, come on... a 100% AP scaling on an ability that can absolutely destroy anyone it hits because of the 4 second long CC combo Blitzcrank has, and he's not even SUPPOSED to build AP? Blitzcrank's hook leaves you with only two options: Flash instantly, or die. I feel like because of how powerful the ability itself is, it shouldn't do NEARLY the damage it does if it does any damage at all.
I think Zed's W is really powerfu basic ability since it mimics his spells and gives him high bonus ad. And Yasuo's Windwall since it can block every projectile and potentially block an enemy team's wombo combo. And Bard's E since it can make your team mobile.
Veigar’s box doesn’t make the cut?
Lol, where is Event Horizon? This is the most powerful basic ability in the game, potential 5 man 2.5 second stun provides insane utility.