Pit bike Engine Upgrades | More Power! 160cc to 201cc Big Bore Rippa

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  • @nieckeodaucsavage2164
    @nieckeodaucsavage2164 7 місяців тому +2

    Man, you can't imagine how thankful i am to have come upon this video. Had to go back to my OG lifan 125 on my mini tao tao after my zs212cc took a dump on me. I have an idea for the case boring though. I think if i bolted the case together(disassembled) and hooked up a honing tool to my dril, i want to say that it would be more effective in terms of even case boring and eliminate the sanding that you did, too. Might have to give it a whirl.

    • @JesseK410
      @JesseK410  7 місяців тому

      Yeah give it a try you might still have to do a quick hand sand to smooth out the walls afterwards, i did that to get rid of any grooves left by the carbide bit. I just wanted to make sure i didn’t take off to much with the tool cuz you gotta be careful there wont be much meat left on the bone so to speak after lol. Definitely give it a shot and let me know how you made out. 🤘🏼

  • @SocalStreetfighter
    @SocalStreetfighter Рік тому +1

    Just came across your channel and this is giving me huge inspiration for my ssr 160tr build with the same motor. Thanks for linking all the parts and showing the engine assembly process

    • @JesseK410
      @JesseK410  Рік тому

      Awesome im glad to hear that! 🤘🏼 the TR is still a great bike! I had a few 150/160/170 TX in the past, just sold the last TX i build so might be time to do another haha. Your welcome i tried to make sure i made it easy as possible for everyone to do the build if they decided to give it a whirl! 🏁🫡

    • @calebcarter367
      @calebcarter367 8 місяців тому

      I'm literally here because I want to build a 160tr too Been looking at them and other bukes and finally found one on market place might actually grt this one

    • @JesseK410
      @JesseK410  8 місяців тому

      @calebcarter367 sweet! The TR is the one with ttr110 plastics.. the TX is a lil better but they are the ones with klx110 plastics and better suspension and lil different swingarm than the TR does. They discontinued the TX model thought

  • @el_delaoz
    @el_delaoz Рік тому +2

    Excellent build, I need to see a versus between YX201 vs Daytona 190

    • @JesseK410
      @JesseK410  Рік тому +4

      That will be coming up in one of the next videos for sure, stay tuned 🤘🏼

    • @baileybell9209
      @baileybell9209 Місяць тому

      The yx160 big bore is slightly quicker

    • @JesseK410
      @JesseK410  Місяць тому

      Its hard to tell i wanna toss em both on the dyno and see what one makes more power realistically

    • @el_delaoz
      @el_delaoz Місяць тому

      @@JesseK410 Good idea!
      It would be great to see that, a lot of people will want to see that content.

    • @JesseK410
      @JesseK410  Місяць тому

      @el_delaoz for sure!

  • @Jazsft
    @Jazsft Рік тому +1

    So sick bro you’ve done a great job super helpful vid too geez you make splitting cases look easy never goes that smooth for me 😂 really keen to hear how she sounds
    And she how it compares to the 190 gonna be killer in your lxr!!!! 🎉

    • @JesseK410
      @JesseK410  Рік тому +1

      Thanks buddy i try to do my best to help everyone out to the best of my abilities haha. Patients goes a long way, i just take my time make sure to keep all your parts in order an it usually goes pretty smoothly. SAME! cant wait to hear it run, once shes all broken in good n proper ill give it the beating of its life 🤣

    • @Legendarynfo
      @Legendarynfo Рік тому

      ​@@JesseK410how much nm are the cilinder head torqued on please ?

    • @JesseK410
      @JesseK410  Рік тому

      @nfol6420 i do 16 ft.lbs

  • @viiviqa
    @viiviqa 10 місяців тому

    Bruh.. I don’t know who you are… but I keep coming across your videos.. I’ve also just realised you’ve got that sick blue super moto build… I’m in the uk.. I’m about to start my own yx160 build, I didn’t know you could get bore kits etc.. gonna watch the video now but you’ve got a new subscriber! Props man! 👌🏼🤝💯

    • @JesseK410
      @JesseK410  10 місяців тому +1

      Hahaha ohyeahh you can do tons of mods to the yx160cc engines. I just got another one in brand new to start working on. Im gonna be making a video of doing the Tb parts V2 head upgrade on the stock bore and see how much of a difference just the head and a bigger carb makes. Going from a YX150cc with high compression Tb parts piston to the 160cc with V2 head and stock piston. In the future we’ll probably do a big bore kit but for now gonna keep the engine 160cc … i appreciate that man thank you! More videos to come now that warm weather is coming back around 🤘🏼

    • @viiviqa
      @viiviqa 10 місяців тому

      @@JesseK410 sounds great bro! You’re based in the states im guessing? 🇺🇸 I’ve heard good things about the 150 motor.. notifications are on, so I’ll be told when the vid drops. & yeah man the new seasons just round the corner so time to get active again! I’ve always had 2 strokes.. never had a 4stroke or a pit bike before.. so rather than the obvious difference & disappointment I know I will feel with a stock 140 boxed & shipped bike.. I’ve been doing a lot of researching & I think a 160 is gonna be sufficient to begin with. Hoping to go with the 190daytona once I’ve had my fun with the 160 engine. You got discord or anything bro?

    • @JesseK410
      @JesseK410  10 місяців тому +1

      @@viiviqa yessir im based in USA 🇺🇸… the yx160 is a great motor for sure (check valve lash when you get it). Im also a 2 stroke guy thats where it all started with me, Suzuki JR. 50! Haha. last 2 strokes i had were yz125 and yz250 an wish i never sold em 🤣💨
      Yeah absolutely i feel like you would be happy with the power of the 160cc engine and its a good bottom to build off for when it comes time to do mods. The daytona 190cc are rippers but not as reliable as the yx engines are unfortunately and to keep them engines reliable your best bet is to keep them stock and just build the head if anything..

    • @viiviqa
      @viiviqa 10 місяців тому

      @@JesseK410 the best country in the world 🇺🇸 where you’re still allowed to have fun. 😂💯 and now that you mention it.. a lot of people on forums have been saying the same thing about the Daytona.. they say it’s unreliable & high maintenance ASF! One thing I noticed is that on a track.. with 2 good riders.. the only real difference between the 160 & 190 is torque. Which as any racer knows is more important on a track than top speed anyway. but I’d rather the reliability tbh.. 💭💯 appreciate the heads up. I think I’ll stick with a yx160 & build it up when I’m ready now you shown the bore kits that are available too. You gotta love a 2stroke bro! 😂💯 they just hit different! The 250 2 strokes were an animal. Shame they aren’t too big nowadays. I’m currently on a 2020 Ktm125sx, had an 85 before that & a 65 before that. Love 2 strokes! But it’s time to try something else. 👌🏼

    • @JesseK410
      @JesseK410  10 місяців тому +1

      @@viiviqa hellyeah dude love to hear it! 2 strokes for life and YX160 for the win on the pitters 🤣🏁✊🏼 i think the yx201cc i built might make more HP than the daytona 190 does but i duno for sure but its gotta be real close if not an the yx engines much lighter an way easier to come by the parts. Daytona sucks for getting parts, everything always out of stock or over seas an doesn’t ship to the USA often.

  • @billross7078
    @billross7078 Рік тому

    Nice job! Similar to what I'm doing to a 2011 Yamaha TTR110. I opened up the cases so the 143cc big bore kit would fit - Had to hone the cylinder to size as there was only .0005" of clearance and a motor of that size should have .0015"-.002" and now it does and the ring end gap is perfect at .009" and I also noticed the piston comes short of the top of the cylinder by 3.21mm(.126") so we will mill down the cylinder by at least 2mm to gain all the compression it can take. Got the big valve head and stage 3 cam on the way. I will then "clay" the head to make sure the valves don't get too close to the piston crown! Eliminated the electric starter motor(made a nice cover to fill in the hole in the case), Ditched the battery, solenoid and all non needed extras', removed the starter clutch from the back side of the flywheel to make it lighter for less rotational mass (helps with quicker RPM's). Got a Big Gun pipe, 22mm carb with big intake manifold, gonna use the BBR U-turn air box eliminator and put the DNM rear shock, BBR fork springs with longer damper rods, BBR tall seat, Tall bars, new plastics with graphics. Replacing those heavy chrome plated steel rims with aluminum ones. She's gonna rip. This is a really cool job that myself and my Outdoor Powersports student are doing this winter, Bill Ross Maine Region 10 Technical High School

    • @JesseK410
      @JesseK410  Рік тому

      Oh thats gonna be a sweet project right there for sure Bill! I love to hear it. I think if you’re doing a 143cc a 26mm carb would be your best bet the 22mm carb is to small for that engine build in my opinion the 26 would be better. Other than that the build sounds like its going to be a total Rippa 💪🏼

    • @JesseK410
      @JesseK410  Рік тому

      Look into the nibbi pwk26mm for a cheaper option if you dont mind spending a lil extra for a carb i would say go with a genuine Keihin pwk26mm

  • @benthomas9827
    @benthomas9827 7 місяців тому +1

    Hey dude. Would that racing factory cover fit on a yx 140?!

    • @JesseK410
      @JesseK410  7 місяців тому

      Yessir it would i had one on my yx140cc on a past build

    • @benthomas9827
      @benthomas9827 7 місяців тому

      Thank you

    • @JesseK410
      @JesseK410  7 місяців тому

      @@benthomas9827 your welcome man 🏁

    • @benthomas9827
      @benthomas9827 7 місяців тому

      Just double checking m8 that it's a ignition cover for a crf50? Any certain year?!! 🇳🇿
      My engine has a v2 head and z40 cam
      Iv been thinking about Port and skim work and more compression, do u think it's worth doing?! My Engine doesn't have many hours, pretty fresh/new!

    • @JesseK410
      @JesseK410  7 місяців тому

      @@benthomas9827 yessir for crf50 all years

  • @Kroviakjm
    @Kroviakjm Рік тому

    Hey is there a o ring that goes on the oil passage between the block and cylinder of a pirahna 140. My big bore kit didn’t come with one and I can’t find one when I took the stock head and cylinder off.

    • @JesseK410
      @JesseK410  Рік тому

      Yeah there is

    • @Kroviakjm
      @Kroviakjm Рік тому

      Is it a flat o ring or can I just use a regular oring?

    • @Kroviakjm
      @Kroviakjm Рік тому

      Is there any that go between the cylinder and the head?

    • @JesseK410
      @JesseK410  Рік тому

      @@Kroviakjm I forget I rebuilt mine at the beginning of the summer

    • @JesseK410
      @JesseK410  Рік тому +1

      @@Kroviakjm i would just order up what it calls for im sure you can find it, might even be a oem honda part

  • @DrThander
    @DrThander Рік тому +1

    Hey ive got some trouble running lights, I've burnt two coil assemblies, should I run lights from the battery, or split from a yellow wire?

    • @JesseK410
      @JesseK410  Рік тому

      You need to buy the kit that has the rectifier or voltage regulator so that wont happens, long as your bike is equipped with a lighting stator than you should be good to go, like i said just need the kit, i got one off ebay years ago that came with everything and yeah it plugged into the yellow wires if i can remember correctly..this was on a SSR 125 i had a headlight on that ran off the bike not a battery…

    • @DrThander
      @DrThander Рік тому

      @@JesseK410 I got a reg/rec but it's from a Honda crf 50 that has a yellow and a white wire, I guess it doesn't fit?

    • @DrThander
      @DrThander Рік тому

      @@JesseK410 nvm checked your reg rec out, turns out the ork runs single phase with two yellow wires, needs it's own reg rec. But can I split the one yellow so I can have lights directly from the coil?

    • @JesseK410
      @JesseK410  Рік тому

      @@DrThander that im not sure of honestly ..you may be able to do that but not positive

  • @vsmaster6162
    @vsmaster6162 Рік тому +1

    since using the kicker starter can damage the carter, can I just take it off? so i reduce weight and maybe gain some torque?

    • @JesseK410
      @JesseK410  Рік тому +1

      Theoretically yes, but i dont think its worth the hassle. If anything just take off the kick starting lever..the gear inside doesn’t weight much an it moves independently of the shaft so all you would be doing is lighting up the engine slightly but like i said not worth the hassle in my opinion

    • @vsmaster6162
      @vsmaster6162 Рік тому +1

      @@JesseK410 thanks bud, appreciate the responses. Last time I went on track, I was hearing a ticking noise in the top part of the engine when in idle. I understood that's something to do with valves?

    • @JesseK410
      @JesseK410  Рік тому +1

      @vsmaster6162 yeah most likely but often times the timing chain stretches so I would say have a look at that and make sure it’s still in spec. You can tell by how far down the timing chain tensioner is when you remove it.

    • @vsmaster6162
      @vsmaster6162 Рік тому

      @@JesseK410 i also hear a noise while riding, when going off throttle, idk how to explain it, but in my latest video it can be heard
      ua-cam.com/video/kBH-Pb6d1hQ/v-deo.htmlsi=rrwh5Wne_948nRBV at 4:55 for example

    • @JesseK410
      @JesseK410  Рік тому +1

      @@vsmaster6162 I just watched it, It’s kind of hard to hear exactly what you’re hearing but I’m pretty sure I can hear it….I would suggest taking the top end off to inspect everything thats the only way to tell for sure or at least checking to see if the timing chain is stretched

  • @SpACeCruizeR2o3
    @SpACeCruizeR2o3 5 місяців тому

    Lol what about the zip ties u didnt take them out 😅 i would just do the 64mm for a lil till i get bored then do this down the road or the v2 head

    • @JesseK410
      @JesseK410  5 місяців тому

      @@SpACeCruizeR2o3 yeah i took them out. Yeah 64mm is mint and V2 head is a must if you wanna make all the ponies 🤙🏼

  • @WyattWood-mf5fe
    @WyattWood-mf5fe 4 місяці тому +1

    I have a tao motor 150dbx1 can I do this build

    • @JesseK410
      @JesseK410  4 місяці тому

      @@WyattWood-mf5fe unfortunately not you gotta start off with the yx160

    • @WyattWood-mf5fe
      @WyattWood-mf5fe 4 місяці тому

      @JesseK410 would i be able to put any new head on their and if you look were your stator there is a black round thing it's has a wire

    • @JesseK410
      @JesseK410  4 місяці тому

      @@WyattWood-mf5fe i think you could possibly do a tb parts head if its honda type if not the v2 head if its a klx type head you engine runs

    • @WyattWood-mf5fe
      @WyattWood-mf5fe 4 місяці тому

      @JesseK410 it's like a klx type and thank you I needed to know so I can seen them 85s to gaplle beesss

    • @JesseK410
      @JesseK410  4 місяці тому +1

      @@WyattWood-mf5fe facts! And them 150Rs .. all day

  • @AftermathNoPrep
    @AftermathNoPrep 3 місяці тому

    Will a yx160 engine swap right into a stock ssr125 chassis and work fine?

    • @AftermathNoPrep
      @AftermathNoPrep 3 місяці тому

      Also I'm curious what speeds you're reaching in your yx201? Lol

    • @JesseK410
      @JesseK410  3 місяці тому +1

      Yeah it will swap it might need to reinforce the frame

    • @JesseK410
      @JesseK410  3 місяці тому +1

      Its not geared for top speed so really not to fast

    • @AftermathNoPrep
      @AftermathNoPrep 3 місяці тому

      @JesseK410 it looked like it was rippin in your other video.

    • @JesseK410
      @JesseK410  3 місяці тому +1

      @@AftermathNoPrep ohhyeahh flying but not to its true potential if i had it geared differently it could probably do 100mph lol.. im working on a new video similar to this one now doing the new tb 212cc kit with the race and head and over sized valves w high compression piston, just waiting on everything to come in from TboltUSA 🤘🏼

  • @MartinRacingChannel
    @MartinRacingChannel Рік тому +2

    Did you happen to check how far your piston set inside of the cylinder? Mine was almost 3mm from flush. We felt like it should be closer to flush. The bike runs good , but the compression doesnt feel near the same of the stock engine. Much easier to kick over now. It can be turned over by hand. It feels strong, i just think im no where near the 11:5:1 thats claimed.

    • @JesseK410
      @JesseK410  Рік тому +3

      So yeah the TB cylinder are a lil taller than stock, so thats why but you can just run no base gasket an do RTV if you wanna get the compression up. To be honest this thing has crazy compression no way i could turn it over by hand. The last 201cc engine i build had ridiculous compression too lol…your valve adjustment could be off causing the valve to hang open an blow off compression

    • @MartinRacingChannel
      @MartinRacingChannel Рік тому +1

      @JesseK410 the valves are adjusted at .003 intake and exhaust just like it says. I've checked them after the build and after the break in. I just went riding and it broke... pretty sure it's the timing chain. I had to loosen the timing chain tensioner to install the cam sprocket so it was much tighter than stock...

    • @MartinRacingChannel
      @MartinRacingChannel Рік тому +1

      The tb 78mm cylinder with gaskets is almost 2mm longer than stock with gaskets.😔

    • @JesseK410
      @JesseK410  Рік тому +1

      @@MartinRacingChannel yeah for sure that will do it, and yep like you said its 2mm taller so thats why but it will be fine long as u got the timing chain on, a tad bit lower compression isn’t a bad thing lol

    • @JesseK410
      @JesseK410  Рік тому +1

      @@MartinRacingChannel you could always mill it down 2mm if you really wanted but like i said even like this my engine makes crazy compression right now

  • @samsonaglia428
    @samsonaglia428 7 місяців тому

    I been looking on tbolt for a big bore for my 2023 gpx (pitster) mxr155. Came across this 67mm kit , am i good with just a v2 race head, the new cylinder, and piston? Or would i need to cam and split cases and all that. More or less i am just looking for a simple piston/jug swap

    • @JesseK410
      @JesseK410  7 місяців тому +1

      Yeah you would need to split the cases to use the 67mm cylinder … best bet is run the 64mm BBK

  • @Tosun278
    @Tosun278 4 місяці тому

    Sen adamsin dostum emegine sağlik❤

    • @JesseK410
      @JesseK410  4 місяці тому

      @@Tosun278 🏁🇺🇸🤙🏼

  • @denniskonko2555
    @denniskonko2555 Рік тому +1

    Hey I have a quick question what size carb do you run on the Daytona 190cc and the jet sizes?

    • @JesseK410
      @JesseK410  Рік тому +1

      For the PE28 Keihin carb they come with i run a 48 pilot jet and a 115 main jet, im at sea level and tune the bikes accordingly, the plug is coffee brown an running awesome. Each bike is going to be a little different not one tune is going to work for everyone unfortunately

    • @denniskonko2555
      @denniskonko2555 Рік тому

      @@JesseK410 I have the nibbi pwk with 37 pilot and 125 main seems to stutter at redline and air screw half way turned out seems to run best beside the bogs at highest rpm do you think the air screw should normally be more then just half way turn from fully seated

    • @JesseK410
      @JesseK410  Рік тому +1

      @@denniskonko2555 yeah so if it’s that far in you need to run a bigger pilot jet thats making it as rich as it can go, ideally you wanna be about 1.5 turns out …where is your clip on the needle?

  • @pv2443
    @pv2443 10 місяців тому +1

    Are 140 and 160 parts compatible?

    • @JesseK410
      @JesseK410  10 місяців тому

      No there different

    • @JesseK410
      @JesseK410  10 місяців тому

      The YX160 is definitely a better engine overall especially if you wanna build it into something bigger than a 160cc. The yx140cc engine you can only bore out so big bc of the size of the bore on the cases, it wont allow for a bigger cylinder like you can do on the YX160cc engines.. if you bore the cases on the 160cc engine you can go as big as 67mm piston making it a 201cc. I have heard of people doing a longer rod and making it over 201cc but thats putting a lot of strain on the transmission so the biggest bore ill mess with is the 201cc witch is honestly more than enough power to get the job done and also hurt yourself if you’re not careful on such a small bike haha

  • @Kroviakjm
    @Kroviakjm Рік тому +1

    Hey just curious how much would you charge to put together my pirahna 146 big bore engine?

    • @JesseK410
      @JesseK410  Рік тому +1

      Shoot me a message on IG

  • @3dwezzy740
    @3dwezzy740 Рік тому +1

    how u think it do against the 190?

    • @JesseK410
      @JesseK410  Рік тому +1

      I hope its gonna mop it up but well see soon enough lol. Its gonna have a fair chance thats for sure

    • @3dwezzy740
      @3dwezzy740 Рік тому

      @@JesseK410i just noticed the top ebds bigger than the blocj😅😅😅😅😅

  • @naelwlr
    @naelwlr 11 місяців тому

    u a legend man

    • @JesseK410
      @JesseK410  11 місяців тому

      Hahaha what makes you say that? Ill take it tho 🙏🏼🤣

    • @naelwlr
      @naelwlr 11 місяців тому

      @@JesseK410 u explained how to open a pitbike engine so well 🤣🤣

    • @JesseK410
      @JesseK410  11 місяців тому

      @@naelwlr 🤣 i tryed

  • @pitbikesha9864
    @pitbikesha9864 Рік тому

    The 64mm bore kit can still be used for the 201 i don’t want to bore anything and mess up

    • @JesseK410
      @JesseK410  Рік тому +1

      So if you don’t want to bore anything no problem in that case i would suggest running the 64mm bore kit witch will make it a 184cc. Thats as big as you can go on the bore, before needing to bore the cases like i did here in the video…201cc runs a 67mm bore kit 👍🏼

    • @pitbikesha9864
      @pitbikesha9864 Рік тому

      @@JesseK410 appreciate that info bossman 🤝🏿

    • @JesseK410
      @JesseK410  Рік тому

      @@pitbikesha9864 anytime 🤘🏼

    • @Erik-ne9st
      @Erik-ne9st Рік тому

      @@JesseK410 this is propably a very dumb question but if i bore the cases for the 67mm and then later on i want to switch back to a smaller bore the I can't do that since the cases are bored too big for the smaller cylinders?

    • @JesseK410
      @JesseK410  Рік тому

      @Erik-ne9st yessir you can switch back no problem 👍🏼

  • @WyattWood-mf5fe
    @WyattWood-mf5fe 4 місяці тому

    And my stator broke well it was broke when I bought it the kid pop the chain of and it ate the Thang that makes it spark and do yk what a gear wire is it's next to the stator it's black and plugs in to the side of the motor

    • @JesseK410
      @JesseK410  4 місяці тому

      @@WyattWood-mf5fe dammm and not off the top of my head

  • @3dwezzy740
    @3dwezzy740 Рік тому +2

    the head is bigger than the trans mission😂😂😂😂

  • @elleon8723
    @elleon8723 11 місяців тому

    You made that look so simple

    • @JesseK410
      @JesseK410  11 місяців тому

      Haha its actually not to bad, my best piece of advice is take pictures and do your best to keep everything organized and take your time with it. 👍🏼

  • @AdrenalineJunkieBuilder
    @AdrenalineJunkieBuilder Рік тому

    Im first for once😂😂😂 I'm here from Instagram

    • @JesseK410
      @JesseK410  Рік тому

      Lessgoo! Haha 1st place 🏁 thats how we roll

  • @3dwezzy740
    @3dwezzy740 Рік тому

    yeeeeeeewwwww letz goooooo!

    • @JesseK410
      @JesseK410  Рік тому

      Ooohhyeahh cant wait to hear it run 🤘🏼🤘🏼

  • @Kroviakjm
    @Kroviakjm Рік тому

    Nice

  • @danielwindberg187
    @danielwindberg187 Рік тому

    I want to do this to my 170 so bad

    • @JesseK410
      @JesseK410  Рік тому +1

      Definitely should i turned my 170cc into a 180cc by doing the Tb parts 64mm big bore kit and had to use the 92 link timing chain from the zs155

    • @danielwindberg187
      @danielwindberg187 Рік тому

      ​@@JesseK410so I should build my ssr over building a klx or crf ?

    • @JesseK410
      @JesseK410  Рік тому +1

      @@danielwindberg187 you have a ssr170tx right?

    • @danielwindberg187
      @danielwindberg187 Рік тому +1

      ​@@JesseK410yes right now I have a 2020 170 tx

    • @JesseK410
      @JesseK410  Рік тому +1

      @@danielwindberg187 that’s essentially a full mod klx110 so yeah i would just build that if i was you, ive had mutiple of them TX bikes from the 150,160 and 170 models

  • @SamuTiesmaki
    @SamuTiesmaki 15 днів тому

    avg finnish day

  • @frederichbonilla7327
    @frederichbonilla7327 4 місяці тому

    Sell me the Daytona 190cc that you have next to me with shipping to Miami

    • @JesseK410
      @JesseK410  4 місяці тому

      @@frederichbonilla7327 that engine is already built and in another bike haha sorry man