I also just got my R5mk2 and thank God I found this video. I downloaded your pdf and am going to save days of fiddling about and frustration. Thank you - well worth the cash.
Thanks! This is well worth the $20. I've spent hours setting up my R5 mk ii since last week and you're shooting style is exactly what I desire so this will save me a lot of time
Jan, that video is a heaven's gift. Coming from an original R6 the whole AF stuff differs substantially. The documentation from Canon is completely inadequate, but your video nails it perfectly. Thank you!!!
Thx for tips. I use m-fn button to cycle through my custom modes. I then have my C3 with pre shooting enabled. Then in less than a second, I’m in pre shooting mode
The “release shutter without card” should be set to “off” for most people. It prevents the camera from pretending to take a picture if you forgot to insert the memory card….
Jan I believe Canon owes you a debt of gratitude. Yours is the best r5 mkii setup vid I’ve seen. In fact with only a slight variance here and there I used your settings. You do not use Canon DPP4. I do. In post I click on Digital Lens Optimizer, Auto Light Optimizer, and I bump clarity. Setting these in camera saves me steps in post. I also use fine picture style even though I shoot in raw. For wildlife better details as a starting point. Saves me click time. Those settings are not just for jpegs. I wish you’d do more in the video setup. I think most R5 users are pic shooters. But now with all these pro enhancements, those shooters will pay more attention to video. And we’re not as versed in terms like codex, lutz, color grading video. I use Davinci Reolve. So I’m busy searching for “how tos” in doing these things. Things like downloading color profiles would be of interest. And of particular interest would be working from CLOG2. I believe this could be a good subject for you with your teaching style and skills. Please mention using the quick or slow autofocusing transition in video. Anyway take care.
Thank you very much, Jan. I was very happy to see you got your Palm Cockatoo. There is much to learn with this new camera, but it will be infinitely easier now thanks to you. Like many others, I'll need to view it more than once, but what a fabulously comprehensive video. You're an absolute master. 👌
Great info, thanks! As your settings were similar to my R5, I purchased your guide and config file and then modified from there. Do you have a similar R5 config file?
Another excellent video Jan! Thank you very much for taking the time not only to decipher and test these settings, but also to present them in such a clear manner. A note of warning to those who wish to take 8k video: If you set the movie record options to "Auto switch card" in the first yellow menu, as Jan does at 16:56, 8k recording will no longer be an option in the first red menu (not even grayed out). That is simply because you can only record 8k video to the CFexpress card. Jan mentions that some settings have repercussions by affecting the availability of others, but this wasn't explicitly called out and it took me a while to figure out what was going on. Bottom line, if you want to be able to select 8k video recording size, leave the movie record options set to "Standard" or "1 Main 2 Proxy."
Danke für deine Arbeit mit dem Setup-Guide der R5M2! Auch die mitgelieferte Einstellungsdatei, sind jeden Cent wert! Thank you for your work with the R5M2 setup guide! The included settings file is also worth every cent!👌
Excellent video, thank you! Get the R5 II last week and found setting it up even more complex than the R5. So many options, and some very weird Canon defaults. I used the info in your first video (amazing pictures BTW!) and spent two long days shooting with it. Your first R5 II video really helped, but I could tell there were settings I needed to change. This new video helped me understand and refine a number of settings. What I'd like now is a video dedicated to eye control. I wear glasses, and so far eye control for me seems too crude in selecting a subject. However, I'm not sure what to expect from it and how it looks when it is working well for someone. Having more details on setting it up, what it can and can't do, how to override it when it doesn't work, and potential pitfalls would be a huge helpful!
As always, your in depth dive into settings is the best resource available. I'm giving many of your settings a try. I especially like your set up for Eye control. One thing you didn't mention is the 'AE for Priority Subjects During AF' on the red 2 menu. If I understand it correctly, we finally have metering on the AF point which makes Auto ISO a more practical option than ever before. In my testing over the past few days I'm finding it pretty well. Thanks for the great content. I purchased your set up guide.
I've just bought your settings PDF. Thank you. Now all I need is my new R5 MII to arrive! I remember when I bought my R is took weeks for me to fully understand the menus so your video and PDF will avoid lots of frustration trying to figure out the menus and settings.
Jan video is brilliant! I used it to set up my r5m2 today. Just received it. Just one thing is not clear how to use eye tracking. According to your instruction I haven’t understood how to use it correctly. 😊
Jan, why not use Fv mode (flexible priority) instead of Manual and have both the benefit of Manual as well as auto for aperture, speed and time (when needed or wanted)? Is there some advantage to Manual over Fv that I'm not aware of? Thanks for all the great work you do!
Thanks. A couple of things you didn't cover could be important. 1) If you set up for "Backout Free Display," then (unlike any other Canon camera I have used) the aperture on the lens will stop down according to the aperture. This makes tweaking manual focus much less effective to impossible if the aperture is set to a high number. Also new (to me) is that you can set the view to be either with or without DOF/aperture stopped down with the other shutter modes (but it always stops down with Blackout Free, and the options are grayed out). 2) You didn't go into the new "submenus" enabled by the INFO button when you set up back button AF. Syler P.R. goes into them a bit in "Supercharge your Canon R5 II for Wildlife Photo & Video (Complete Setup Guide)." There are vastly more options than on the R5. It also means that with BBF, what AF focusing mode you pick with the RED menu seems meaningless. As you set up with the Mf button (to pick the focus mode) and the Orange menu to limit focusing modes). A whole video just on the R5m2's focusing modes with their many sub-menus with BBF is warranted.
Yeah, I think I noticed the thing about blackout free/stopping down too.... I will have to experiment with that now.... Depending on the "blackout", I may leave it off even.
I did not go into that menu, because I think for the majority of users it’s overwhelming and you don’t necessarily gain a lot or anything compared to just setting it to eye tracking AF
I found the R5 II's menu rather daunting, much more so than compared to previous Canon cameras. Thanks for taking the time to explain some of these new options.
Definitely some gems in this video like "Retract lens on power off" - the focus resetting automatically always bugged me! Gonna have to watch through the whole video when I have time.
Thank you for the detailed setup guide Jan. I wish that I had seen this before my last wildlife photography roadtrip, but look forward to trying out these new settings this weekend!
Thanks so much Jen, This and your PDF sure made my life easier. At my point in life easy is very good. It will be so much fun now to go out and take some pics. Although, it’s not to nice in Florida. Keep up the great service you provide do many photographers.
Hi Jan, I think I've worked out how to assign precapture on/off to a single button press: customise the M-Fn button to C: Switch to Custom shooting mode, (this allows you to toggle between C1, C2, & C3) , then set up your favourite settings to both C1 & C2 with the only difference being C1 has precapture turned off and C2 has it turned on. Finally Untick C3 so that the M-Fn button only toggles between C1 and C2. (I had a 1DX mark ii before and used this idea to toggle between single shot and H+ shooting) Cheers Noel
Very helpful video, Jan. I've just got my R5II and you have given me several useful tips I can take on board. Some are also useful for my R5 that I've been using for the last 4 years!
Thx Jan, I bought the set up guide and the set up file, and loaded the settings instantly using the settings file, saved so much time!! I did find the view finder too bright. I was thinking of using a white card and the histogram, to set the VF brightness so that I can gauge the exposure in the VF more accurately?
Hi Jan, Thanks for the R5 Mk 2 setup video. I will get my Mk2 today, and I purchased your setup guide. Looking through the manual online beforehand I thought setting up will be a challenge. Now with your help this will be so much easier. Thanks again.
Thanks for this I just setup my camera as suggested. Did I miss something, I thought you said we will setup subject to detect later. Don't recall that step later…
Jan! been waiting for this one, When I got my R5 years back on day one of release, your settings to know video on it helped me tons and Don't think I've changed much since then. so looking forward to this one, also got it on day 1 of release. I used it on some Ospreys the other day without seeing this, Def a big upgrade from the original. This is my 8th Canon body over the past 20 years of shooting. Seems to be the best. would love to see a comparison video between this one and your R3 regarding speed and stuff. I rented that body for a trip and it was the best Shooting body to date I used then. This one seems up to the task! Watch all your vids man. We really appreciate all the work you do here and in each video. Cheers man.
Bomber Jan (and Glenn). Many thanks!!! The video, the setup pdf and the .CSD file were all extremely helpful. Canon must update the firmware to provide us a way to limit the bird eye tracking to an area smaller than the entire screen...the inability to do this makes it unnecessarily difficult to shoot small birds in foliage and, frankly, has caused me to be somewhat disappointed in the R5m2.
Thanks Jan. The settings file was great and an excellent buy for $20 - I recommend it to everyone. That being said, you still need to watch the video and go through the PDF so you understand how the camera has been set up to use it properly. There is something else I would happily pay another $20 for. I don't know if you are going to get rid of all your R5M1s and go pure R5M2 but many of us are now going to be shooting both bodies. Although I was happy with the way my R5M1 was set up (with the help of your excellent R5M1 video), I would now like it to match my R5M2 (as closely as possible). I would particularly like the back button focusing to be as close as possible so using the two cameras at the same time can be as intuitive as possible. Perhaps you could post your R5M1 settings, preferably modified to match the R5M2 handling settings as far as possible? Perhaps a video in the future advising owners of both bodies how people carrying both bodies and a couple of lenses could best use the combination. Seems to me that maybe the R5M1 could have a wide angle lens where the autofocus isn't as critical with the R5M2 carrying a long telephoto? I'm sure you have much better ideas.
I think the layout and functions of the two cameras are quite different, so I’ll probably leave mine the way they are. Like switching photo/video with MFn button
Thank you, Jan. It is incredible how similar our configuration is. One thing about your setup has me questioning my own, however. You assign Eye Detection AF to one back button. I have one set to override the AF selection to whole area AF. On the surface the behaviour between the two appears to be the same, but I wonder if they are somehow different.
Thanks again Jan! I got my R5 Mark II but the autofocus seems to be struggling to find hummingbirds. Will check this vide to find what is wrong with my setup.
Great videos like usual ! One tips, instead of customise buton to go quickly to menu to get pre continuous shooting you can also customise Q buton and display on it the pre-continous shooting. It is what I do and it is very efficient too ;)
Just watched your video, and funny enough we configured our cameras pretty much the same. Only difference is I use triple back button focus in C1 and have a dedicated eye control profile on C2. My C1 has spot with tracking, spot without tracking, and eye tracking on the 3 back buttons. My C2 has one back button to toggle the AF focus point mode (spot, expadned, zone, etc), 2nd button to enable/disable whole screen tracking, 3rd button to enable/disable one shot/servo and the shutter button has once again gotten the ability to focus and meter/shoot and move the eye control AF point around. I feel splitting into two profiles lets me better use the eye control rather than trying to "fit it in" with my normal back button focus setup, I especially like having spot with and without tracking one button press away along with eye as my events I shoot are real time I cant miss a shot. The eye control however fixes the issue where I need to move focus for the compesition or for creative shots. I'll have to try your setup though since I am so used to back button focus and not metering with the shutter button that now when I try, I find myself accidentally taking pictures when I am just trying to focus/meter on my C2 profile as that shutter button is extremly sensitive and a light press.
I have followed your suggestions, except that I have not set up eye control because it would not be useful to me. I have a question, though: when pressing AF-ON (which is set to eye-tracking autofocus), it seems that the camera does not know whether to search for a human or animal eye. Would this make the camera less efficient at finding focus?
Great video- very helpful. I ordered R5ii off your link. Also downloaded the instructions for the R5ii and the R5. One other think that would help me, I cant afford two new cameras so will be using the 5 and 5ii. Would be great to have a video on reconfiguring the R5 setup as close as possible to the R5ii. Of course I may just be a little lazy!
Great to hear! Thank you. For now I am leaving my old R5 the way they are. Cause that seemed to be the best set up for both cameras. Since the old one doesn’t have a photo video switch for instance it’s tricky to set them up similarly
Question on Custom buttons.. Your opening statement is set everything up in manual and then set all the menus. Does this mean no Av set at say F11? Thank you!
@klausbambus Press the Menu button. Go to the Red tab 7/9. Scroll down to Customize Quick Controls. Choose this then Customize Layout. Uncheck something that you don't want/need to see in the Quick Controls. I unchecked FLK. Then check PRE. Then Choose Menu Exit in the lower right corner. The next time you press the Q button, you will see Pre as one of your choices. Hope this helps!
39:01 The ‘movie servo af’ has a submenu where you can select ‘detect only’ which prevents the AF from wandering of to the background when the subject exits the frame. Useful for subjects that return frequently, like kingfishers or dragonflies.
I hate that the Nikon cameras with custom shooting banks don't allow you to not auto update the current bank, to have it fixed. Every other camera I used (Sony, Olympus, Panasonic) allow you to decide, just like Canon, if you want them fixed, or to always update. And I love to have the exact same settings every time I turn the camera on, so I can adjust w/o having to check what's on the camera. I usually try to set my camera to the same settings before turning it off, but sometimes I forgot and I found myself missing shots when I turned it on to quickly shoot something and had the wrong settings. It's probably my biggest gripe with the Z8 and something I still can't get used to/accept, even after using it for a year... it just seems insane that such a simple thing isn't left to the user to decide... it would just be one extra toggle somewhere in a menu.
Great setup guide video! Very helpful! I've adopted many of your settings from the video. Coming from the R5 M1 vantage point, any idea when the whole area tracking is useful (a new AF feature to me), rather than simply using eye tracking, for birds? Maybe you will cover that in a separate video? Maybe that feature is more useful for sports or vehicle subjects? Thanks again. Kind regards
Hi Jan--I followed your instructions but I thought the base spot focus (the star button) is supposed to stop focusing when not pressed. Mine continues to focus wherever the point is, which limits my ability to focus and recompose. Any idea of what I'm doing wrong?
Hi Jan, thanks for great info. Can you view the pre continuous images separately or is it one burst of images they are tagged onto? Also the blur/out of focus indication doesn't work on raw/wildlife? thanks
Correct me if I'm wrong Jan, but the colour space setting also has no effect on RAW files, and only applies to JPEGs. Raw files save in as brightness depth per RGB colour filtered pixel to give 14 bit colour rendition and the colour space is imposed when they're processed with a de-mosaicing algorithm in LrC or whatever else you use. So, the colour space menu item is another one you can ignore unless shooting jpeg.
What I did for quck pre-shot selection is saved my normal bird settings WITH preshot to C2. So all you need to get to pre shoot is to go to C2 and shoot.
I am not sure I understand how/why you setup the 3rd button for BBF... You have AF-ON button for eye tracking AF, star button for metering & AF start, but wht's for the focusing point selection button? You say "eye controil AF" but I don't get it
I have purchased your excellent R5 Mark II setup guide and installed the .CSD file in the camera. Since “Spot AF locked” is chosen as the AF area, the”Subject to detect” is grayed out. When you press the AF button to BBF for Eye autofocus with tracking, how does the camera know whether to look for a bird? Does it automatically look for a bird or look through all possibilities? I normally put “Subject to detect” in My Menu, but it comes up, grayed out with subject “none”. Am I missing something? Thank you.
Iv got my hands on a R5 mark 2 for a couple of days and tested the camera for some action birdphotography. I also use 2 button back-button focus. But i find its hard to pick a bird in a flock of bird. Even in manual AF mode with -2 and -1 to make it stick to the bird. My R3 dont have a problem with this. I can initiate a individual and stick the eye-focus to this individual and it stay on it. I cant find a place in the meny to initiate where the focus starts from...
I setup preshoot on C3 and use the M-fn button to cycle through the Cs. Set the Frame rate to 20fps and the limit to 10 and you get 10 before and 10 after.
Did you manage to save precapture on C3 then. And then turn it off in the menu?? I thougt it was strange that I could not assign a button for on and off for precapture function.....
I tried "Blackout free display" but then was wondering why the camera showed me that FPS logo every time it woke up. I guess that also enables high framerate on the viewfinder. So I turned Blackout free display back off and found the shooting to still be buttery smooth and easy to track fast moving birds. I don't think it makes much difference and leaving it off frees you from those various limitations.
1. So, I push AF to make eye detection start working and hold it down to keep it working. What do i push to make spot focusing work? It seems like I will just see the spot on the bird but there is no way to make it focus once the spot is there. 2. I want to use electronic shutter but I got a message saying I can't because I selected blackout-free display AND pre-cont. shooting. I won't get 30 fps if I don't use electronic shutter, right?
Thx for the rundown Jan, very helpful M8. With Dbl Back Button spot focus though, I set up the base as you described but it is still wanting to track and is jumping all around. Doesn't seem to matter if I choose "spot" or "spot locked" mode, there is no difference with my Mk ii. I have the same setup on my R5 original but can't seem to get it right on this new one. Must be something else deep in the menu I need to change. UPDATE: Found the problem. In customize buttons, AF "ON" button, Under AF - "details" at the bottom of screen there are a number of options and mine had "AF Area" set to [1], not "locked spot". Cheers.
Jan, I shoot Sony, but this is true for all cameras; turn off Bluetooth (turn ON Airplane mode), unless you're a press photographer or something. if you're not using Bluetooth for anything, why have it turned on. its a small transmitter, and uses up some battery capacity. same is true for Wifi. turn it off.
Hi Jan, great video, thank you. I'm still confused by one thing. With this set-up, when you press the Eye Tracking Autofocusing button (AF ON button), how does the camera know that you specifically want to track animals (birds), instead of people?
Hi Jan, thanks a lot for providing this detailed guidance👍 Shall be the first video I return to once I found a way to afford upgrading to the R5ii. But actually, it triggered me to finally start using the MyMenu on my current R5 ;-) For stills you didn't seem to set AF subject to animals (was greyed out due to selecting spot AF without tracking), but I'm guessing you temporary set here an AF method with tracking in order to select Animals, which you're using later via the AF-On button, right ? I'm really wondering whether you're able to "abuse" registering persons for people priority by registering here bird species instead of regular persons. That might help to pick a rare bird from a flock of many birds .. Is the red button to switch to Movie-C3 the only remaining option to switch between stills and movie (for which you don't have to force your left hand to drop the long glass 🙈) ?? Is it still possible to hit info after hitting the mode button ? You added 'drive mode' in your MyMenu, which seems not possible on the old R5. Does the R5ii have a way to emulate the a9iii and assign a boost function to a button which would switch from H to H+ while holding such button ?
This was great! Thank you for explaining the difference between spot focus and spot focus with the lock. I was using spot focus and wondered why there was a moving blue box. What I don't understand is why. The spot focus point doesnt't automatically move to get on the subject. I know that if I press the joy stick straight in, that spot focus will re-center. What am I supposed to do to get that spot focus to go to the moving blue box? I am using dual back button focus with one button assigned for spot focus, not locked, and the other button for animal eye AF. I followed along with your video set up as well. I used all your settings, then registered that to C3. So, when I'm in camera stills mode and press the red record button, the camera will record in those settings, correct? What about slow motion? If I go back to movie mode, what are the settings? I'd like to try this. Could I then register those settings to C2 to use when the camera is in stills mode? Or, do I just flip the switch to movie mode and leave the settings as I set them? I'm a complete novice when it comes to video. I just occasionally shoot some bird clips. Thank you so very much for this tutorial. I am really happy that I upgraded from the R5. I really appreciate the time you take to educate us. I'm looking forward to all of your beautiful photos and videos to come.
Hi Cathy, as far as I understand, the red button switches just as hardcoded to Movie-C3 as the original R5 does. So I decided to configure my C3 for slow motion, assuming I'd need slomo more urgently in case some cool action happens. For regular video I take a bit more time to activate that C1/C2 mode. The red button also starts recording asap, so as Jan explained it's good practice to first visit movie-C3 to set the exposure for the conditions on the day, before flipping to stills mode. However, a few times I started (by accident) filming completely underexposed at ISO100, and while filming I cranked up the ISO which had as a nice effect as if someone smoothly switched on the sun ;-)
Thanks for the video 👍. Got my R5 II this week. Ich have one question about the settings. May be someone can help me. I want to set up a single button that uses 30 picture/sec, eye detection, a spezific shutter speed. Purpose: unexpected action happens and i am quickly rdy for that. Is this possible and have someone a link for a video what explains/shows that?
Spent 4 days playing and resetting "things" on my R5ii... In one video and set-up guide you have answered every question I have had!! THANK YOU!!!
I also just got my R5mk2 and thank God I found this video. I downloaded your pdf and am going to save days of fiddling about and frustration. Thank you - well worth the cash.
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks! This is well worth the $20. I've spent hours setting up my R5 mk ii since last week and you're shooting style is exactly what I desire so this will save me a lot of time
Great! It’s definitely a challenge to tweak
Jan, that video is a heaven's gift. Coming from an original R6 the whole AF stuff differs substantially. The documentation from Canon is completely inadequate, but your video nails it perfectly. Thank you!!!
Thank you!
Thx for tips. I use m-fn button to cycle through my custom modes. I then have my C3 with pre shooting enabled. Then in less than a second, I’m in pre shooting mode
Best video for setting up the R5 II. Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
The “release shutter without card” should be set to “off” for most people. It prevents the camera from pretending to take a picture if you forgot to insert the memory card….
It does
Jan I believe Canon owes you a debt of gratitude. Yours is the best r5 mkii setup vid I’ve seen. In fact with only a slight variance here and there I used your settings.
You do not use Canon DPP4. I do. In post I click on Digital Lens Optimizer, Auto Light Optimizer, and I bump clarity. Setting these in camera saves me steps in post. I also use fine picture style even though I shoot in raw. For wildlife better details as a starting point. Saves me click time. Those settings are not just for jpegs.
I wish you’d do more in the video setup. I think most R5 users are pic shooters. But now with all these pro enhancements, those shooters will pay more attention to video. And we’re not as versed in terms like codex, lutz, color grading video.
I use Davinci Reolve. So I’m busy searching for “how tos” in doing these things. Things like downloading color profiles would be of interest. And of particular interest would be working from CLOG2.
I believe this could be a good subject for you with your teaching style and skills.
Please mention using the quick or slow autofocusing transition in video.
Anyway take care.
Thank you very much, Jan. I was very happy to see you got your Palm Cockatoo. There is much to learn with this new camera, but it will be infinitely easier now thanks to you. Like many others, I'll need to view it more than once, but what a fabulously comprehensive video. You're an absolute master. 👌
This is gold, thank you Jan! Tommorow i am going on vacation and this will help BIG TIME!
So glad!
Jumping from the R6 to the R5M2 - this video was a life saver for me. Getting ready for an African photo safari and this helped me so much!
Settings are good and all, but that palm cocky doing his drumming is brilliant Jan; I can see why he's made an encore appearance :)
This is great, but I'm going to have to watch it 4 or 5 times!
It’s already almost 45min, so hard to slow it down 😅
@@jan_wegener it’s great. Just a lot of rapid-fire detail. The 4-5 times will be worth it, a few steps at a time
Since I am jumping from 5Dm4 to R5m2 -> The 3 back Focus buttons were an amazing idea for me. Thanks a lot :-)
Great to hear!
Great info, thanks! As your settings were similar to my R5, I purchased your guide and config file and then modified from there. Do you have a similar R5 config file?
Another excellent video Jan! Thank you very much for taking the time not only to decipher and test these settings, but also to present them in such a clear manner.
A note of warning to those who wish to take 8k video: If you set the movie record options to "Auto switch card" in the first yellow menu, as Jan does at 16:56, 8k recording will no longer be an option in the first red menu (not even grayed out). That is simply because you can only record 8k video to the CFexpress card. Jan mentions that some settings have repercussions by affecting the availability of others, but this wasn't explicitly called out and it took me a while to figure out what was going on.
Bottom line, if you want to be able to select 8k video recording size, leave the movie record options set to "Standard" or "1 Main 2 Proxy."
Danke für deine Arbeit mit dem Setup-Guide der R5M2! Auch die mitgelieferte Einstellungsdatei, sind jeden Cent wert!
Thank you for your work with the R5M2 setup guide! The included settings file is also worth every cent!👌
Excellent video, thank you! Get the R5 II last week and found setting it up even more complex than the R5. So many options, and some very weird Canon defaults. I used the info in your first video (amazing pictures BTW!) and spent two long days shooting with it. Your first R5 II video really helped, but I could tell there were settings I needed to change. This new video helped me understand and refine a number of settings.
What I'd like now is a video dedicated to eye control. I wear glasses, and so far eye control for me seems too crude in selecting a subject. However, I'm not sure what to expect from it and how it looks when it is working well for someone. Having more details on setting it up, what it can and can't do, how to override it when it doesn't work, and potential pitfalls would be a huge helpful!
As always, your in depth dive into settings is the best resource available. I'm giving many of your settings a try. I especially like your set up for Eye control. One thing you didn't mention is the 'AE for Priority Subjects During AF' on the red 2 menu. If I understand it correctly, we finally have metering on the AF point which makes Auto ISO a more practical option than ever before. In my testing over the past few days I'm finding it pretty well. Thanks for the great content. I purchased your set up guide.
'Purchased the how to guide thank you.. it shouldn’t be free!! Looking forward to setting the camera up with you settings
I've just bought your settings PDF. Thank you. Now all I need is my new R5 MII to arrive! I remember when I bought my R is took weeks for me to fully understand the menus so your video and PDF will avoid lots of frustration trying to figure out the menus and settings.
Glad I could help!
Geez, I dream of the day I can watch a vid just like this for the R7 Mk II :) I freaking love / hate my R7's :) lol
Maybe next year
Brilliant video Jan. Thanks very much. My R5ii is on pre-order - can't wait. When it arrives I will definitely download your full set-up guide.
Jan video is brilliant! I used it to set up my r5m2 today. Just received it. Just one thing is not clear how to use eye tracking. According to your instruction I haven’t understood how to use it correctly. 😊
Jan, why not use Fv mode (flexible priority) instead of Manual and have both the benefit of Manual as well as auto for aperture, speed and time (when needed or wanted)? Is there some advantage to Manual over Fv that I'm not aware of? Thanks for all the great work you do!
Thanks. A couple of things you didn't cover could be important.
1) If you set up for "Backout Free Display," then (unlike any other Canon camera I have used) the aperture on the lens will stop down according to the aperture. This makes tweaking manual focus much less effective to impossible if the aperture is set to a high number. Also new (to me) is that you can set the view to be either with or without DOF/aperture stopped down with the other shutter modes (but it always stops down with Blackout Free, and the options are grayed out).
2) You didn't go into the new "submenus" enabled by the INFO button when you set up back button AF. Syler P.R. goes into them a bit in "Supercharge your Canon R5 II for Wildlife Photo & Video (Complete Setup Guide)." There are vastly more options than on the R5. It also means that with BBF, what AF focusing mode you pick with the RED menu seems meaningless. As you set up with the Mf button (to pick the focus mode) and the Orange menu to limit focusing modes).
A whole video just on the R5m2's focusing modes with their many sub-menus with BBF is warranted.
Yeah, I think I noticed the thing about blackout free/stopping down too.... I will have to experiment with that now.... Depending on the "blackout", I may leave it off even.
@@disphoto I tried shooting with the blackout off and on. At 600 4.5 and f/5. In sunny conditions however. But I can’t tell a difference.
I did not go into that menu, because I think for the majority of users it’s overwhelming and you don’t necessarily gain a lot or anything compared to just setting it to eye tracking AF
I found the R5 II's menu rather daunting, much more so than compared to previous Canon cameras. Thanks for taking the time to explain some of these new options.
It sure is!
Looking forward to a R5 ii vs A1 vs Z8/9 comparison video
That probably makes more sense with an A1 II
Definitely some gems in this video like "Retract lens on power off" - the focus resetting automatically always bugged me! Gonna have to watch through the whole video when I have time.
Yes, one very annoying setting!
Thank you for the detailed setup guide Jan. I wish that I had seen this before my last wildlife photography roadtrip, but look forward to trying out these new settings this weekend!
Thank you!
Thanks so much Jen, This and your PDF sure made my life easier. At my point in life easy is very good. It will be so much fun now to go out and take some pics. Although, it’s not to nice in Florida. Keep up the great service you provide do many photographers.
Glad it was helpful!
Hi Jan,
I think I've worked out how to assign precapture on/off to a single button press: customise the M-Fn button to C: Switch to Custom shooting mode, (this allows you to toggle between C1, C2, & C3) , then set up your favourite settings to both C1 & C2 with the only difference being C1 has precapture turned off and C2 has it turned on. Finally Untick C3 so that the M-Fn button only toggles between C1 and C2. (I had a 1DX mark ii before and used this idea to toggle between single shot and H+ shooting)
Cheers
Noel
Thank you. This is very useful and saved us numerous hours trying to understand and tweak the settings.
Great to hear!
Very helpful video, Jan. I've just got my R5II and you have given me several useful tips I can take on board. Some are also useful for my R5 that I've been using for the last 4 years!
Glad it was helpful!
Excellent video. Thank you 👍🏻
Glad you liked it!
Thx Jan, I bought the set up guide and the set up file, and loaded the settings instantly using the settings file, saved so much time!! I did find the view finder too bright. I was thinking of using a white card and the histogram, to set the VF brightness so that I can gauge the exposure in the VF more accurately?
the best setting tutorial ever. Thank you so much
Glad it helped!
Cheers for your informative videos Jan, always appreciated.
Hi Jan, Thanks for the R5 Mk 2 setup video. I will get my Mk2 today, and I purchased your setup guide. Looking through the manual online beforehand I thought setting up will be a challenge. Now with your help this will be so much easier. Thanks again.
Hope you enjoy it!
Thanks Jan.Very well explained.Excellent coverage of settings.
Thanks Jan. Excellent video with explanations.
Thanks for this I just setup my camera as suggested. Did I miss something, I thought you said we will setup subject to detect later. Don't recall that step later…
Great suggestions. I was waiting for this video! I assigned high speed+ to the DOF preview button (speed boost)
Jan! been waiting for this one, When I got my R5 years back on day one of release, your settings to know video on it helped me tons and Don't think I've changed much since then. so looking forward to this one, also got it on day 1 of release. I used it on some Ospreys the other day without seeing this, Def a big upgrade from the original. This is my 8th Canon body over the past 20 years of shooting. Seems to be the best. would love to see a comparison video between this one and your R3 regarding speed and stuff. I rented that body for a trip and it was the best Shooting body to date I used then. This one seems up to the task! Watch all your vids man. We really appreciate all the work you do here and in each video. Cheers man.
Bomber Jan (and Glenn). Many thanks!!! The video, the setup pdf and the .CSD file were all extremely helpful. Canon must update the firmware to provide us a way to limit the bird eye tracking to an area smaller than the entire screen...the inability to do this makes it unnecessarily difficult to shoot small birds in foliage and, frankly, has caused me to be somewhat disappointed in the R5m2.
Thanks Jan. The settings file was great and an excellent buy for $20 - I recommend it to everyone. That being said, you still need to watch the video and go through the PDF so you understand how the camera has been set up to use it properly.
There is something else I would happily pay another $20 for. I don't know if you are going to get rid of all your R5M1s and go pure R5M2 but many of us are now going to be shooting both bodies. Although I was happy with the way my R5M1 was set up (with the help of your excellent R5M1 video), I would now like it to match my R5M2 (as closely as possible). I would particularly like the back button focusing to be as close as possible so using the two cameras at the same time can be as intuitive as possible. Perhaps you could post your R5M1 settings, preferably modified to match the R5M2 handling settings as far as possible?
Perhaps a video in the future advising owners of both bodies how people carrying both bodies and a couple of lenses could best use the combination. Seems to me that maybe the R5M1 could have a wide angle lens where the autofocus isn't as critical with the R5M2 carrying a long telephoto? I'm sure you have much better ideas.
I think the layout and functions of the two cameras are quite different, so I’ll probably leave mine the way they are. Like switching photo/video with MFn button
Fantastic as usual - thanks so much!
Thank you, Jan. It is incredible how similar our configuration is. One thing about your setup has me questioning my own, however. You assign Eye Detection AF to one back button. I have one set to override the AF selection to whole area AF. On the surface the behaviour between the two appears to be the same, but I wonder if they are somehow different.
Thanks again Jan! I got my R5 Mark II but the autofocus seems to be struggling to find hummingbirds. Will check this vide to find what is wrong with my setup.
Good Job, Jan, I would not expect anything different from you!
Thank you so much!
Thank you for the excellent information. You put a lot of time into this. Much appreciated.
My pleasure!
Great videos like usual ! One tips, instead of customise buton to go quickly to menu to get pre continuous shooting you can also customise Q buton and display on it the pre-continous shooting. It is what I do and it is very efficient too ;)
Thank you. I was waiting for your video come out, I appreciate it.
Hope you enjoyed it!
Just watched your video, and funny enough we configured our cameras pretty much the same. Only difference is I use triple back button focus in C1 and have a dedicated eye control profile on C2.
My C1 has spot with tracking, spot without tracking, and eye tracking on the 3 back buttons.
My C2 has one back button to toggle the AF focus point mode (spot, expadned, zone, etc), 2nd button to enable/disable whole screen tracking, 3rd button to enable/disable one shot/servo and the shutter button has once again gotten the ability to focus and meter/shoot and move the eye control AF point around.
I feel splitting into two profiles lets me better use the eye control rather than trying to "fit it in" with my normal back button focus setup, I especially like having spot with and without tracking one button press away along with eye as my events I shoot are real time I cant miss a shot.
The eye control however fixes the issue where I need to move focus for the compesition or for creative shots.
I'll have to try your setup though since I am so used to back button focus and not metering with the shutter button that now when I try, I find myself accidentally taking pictures when I am just trying to focus/meter on my C2 profile as that shutter button is extremly sensitive and a light press.
Thank you for your hard work to help us!
Just ordered and downloaded. Excellent!!!!!
your explanations are so good - have not splurged yet but great explanations
Great to hear!
in your shooting experience with this camera, while you review your images, how do you know if this specific image is as part of pre capture?
Thank you so much for this! Really well done and much appreciated.
Glad it was helpful!
Excellent video Jan! Bought the guide.
I hope it’ll help!
Jan please make same video for video settings. Because they are very different from r5 in r5 mark 2.
I have followed your suggestions, except that I have not set up eye control because it would not be useful to me. I have a question, though: when pressing AF-ON (which is set to eye-tracking autofocus), it seems that the camera does not know whether to search for a human or animal eye. Would this make the camera less efficient at finding focus?
Great video- very helpful. I ordered R5ii off your link. Also downloaded the instructions for the R5ii and the R5. One other think that would help me, I cant afford two new cameras so will be using the 5 and 5ii. Would be great to have a video on reconfiguring the R5 setup as close as possible to the R5ii. Of course I may just be a little lazy!
Great to hear! Thank you.
For now I am leaving my old R5 the way they are. Cause that seemed to be the best set up for both cameras.
Since the old one doesn’t have a photo video switch for instance it’s tricky to set them up similarly
Question on Custom buttons.. Your opening statement is set everything up in manual and then set all the menus. Does this mean no Av set at say F11? Thank you!
Thank you Jan! BTW, there is a setting to force My Menu to always be the first menu displayed.
Yes, I added that into the video somewhere
Good to see you Jan 👍
I put pre-capture at the top of the Q menu. That’s fewer clicks to toggle than using the green My Menu.
Me too!
Oh good tip. I'll have to check that
Where do I customize Q menu?
@klausbambus Press the Menu button. Go to the Red tab 7/9. Scroll down to Customize Quick Controls. Choose this then Customize Layout. Uncheck something that you don't want/need to see in the Quick Controls. I unchecked FLK. Then check PRE. Then Choose Menu Exit in the lower right corner. The next time you press the Q button, you will see Pre as one of your choices. Hope this helps!
same !
39:01 The ‘movie servo af’ has a submenu where you can select ‘detect only’ which prevents the AF from wandering of to the background when the subject exits the frame. Useful for subjects that return frequently, like kingfishers or dragonflies.
Great tip!
I hate that the Nikon cameras with custom shooting banks don't allow you to not auto update the current bank, to have it fixed. Every other camera I used (Sony, Olympus, Panasonic) allow you to decide, just like Canon, if you want them fixed, or to always update.
And I love to have the exact same settings every time I turn the camera on, so I can adjust w/o having to check what's on the camera. I usually try to set my camera to the same settings before turning it off, but sometimes I forgot and I found myself missing shots when I turned it on to quickly shoot something and had the wrong settings. It's probably my biggest gripe with the Z8 and something I still can't get used to/accept, even after using it for a year... it just seems insane that such a simple thing isn't left to the user to decide... it would just be one extra toggle somewhere in a menu.
Thank you very much, Jan! Would you have to over expose for video by a 1 stop (Like C-Log3 for R5) when shooting in C-Log 2?
Thank-you as I’ll be setting this today👍👍
Great!
Liking this video now to show support but will come back in a few months when i finally get my hands on it hahah
Great vid! Thanks. Loving my R52
Great to hear!
Great setup guide video! Very helpful! I've adopted many of your settings from the video. Coming from the R5 M1 vantage point, any idea when the whole area tracking is useful (a new AF feature to me), rather than simply using eye tracking, for birds? Maybe you will cover that in a separate video? Maybe that feature is more useful for sports or vehicle subjects? Thanks again. Kind regards
It’s more or less the same except that you can tell it easier where to start from, from all the normal modes
Hi Jan--I followed your instructions but I thought the base spot focus (the star button) is supposed to stop focusing when not pressed. Mine continues to focus wherever the point is, which limits my ability to focus and recompose. Any idea of what I'm doing wrong?
CRAW will have more noise in low light when recovering shadows in my experience.
The difference is quite minimal in my experience
Hi Jan, thanks for great info. Can you view the pre continuous images separately or is it one burst of images they are tagged onto? Also the blur/out of focus indication doesn't work on raw/wildlife?
thanks
they're just like all other raw files
Correct me if I'm wrong Jan, but the colour space setting also has no effect on RAW files, and only applies to JPEGs. Raw files save in as brightness depth per RGB colour filtered pixel to give 14 bit colour rendition and the colour space is imposed when they're processed with a de-mosaicing algorithm in LrC or whatever else you use. So, the colour space menu item is another one you can ignore unless shooting jpeg.
Thanks for the detailed info 😁
Glad it was helpful!
Alternatively you can set one of C1to C3 to a mode with pre Capture enabled for a quick change ?
What I did for quck pre-shot selection is saved my normal bird settings WITH preshot to C2. So all you need to get to pre shoot is to go to C2 and shoot.
I learn so much from your UA-cam's.
I am trying to purchase some of your products, however, I don't have PayPal. Is there another way?
I am not sure I understand how/why you setup the 3rd button for BBF...
You have AF-ON button for eye tracking AF, star button for metering & AF start, but wht's for the focusing point selection button? You say "eye controil AF" but I don't get it
I have purchased your excellent R5 Mark II setup guide and installed the .CSD file in the camera.
Since “Spot AF locked” is chosen as the AF area, the”Subject to detect” is grayed out.
When you press the AF button to BBF for Eye autofocus with tracking, how does the camera know whether to look for a bird? Does it automatically look for a bird or look through all possibilities?
I normally put “Subject to detect” in My Menu, but it comes up, grayed out with subject “none”.
Am I missing something?
Thank you.
I'm really hoping Canon will let us use a button to toggle Pre-continuous Shooting with a future firmware update.
Me too!
Can't wait till the shops in the UK actually have it in stock in December lol
Iv got my hands on a R5 mark 2 for a couple of days and tested the camera for some action birdphotography. I also use 2 button back-button focus. But i find its hard to pick a bird in a flock of bird. Even in manual AF mode with -2 and -1 to make it stick to the bird. My R3 dont have a problem with this. I can initiate a individual and stick the eye-focus to this individual and it stay on it. I cant find a place in the meny to initiate where the focus starts from...
Thanks
I setup preshoot on C3 and use the M-fn button to cycle through the Cs. Set the Frame rate to 20fps and the limit to 10 and you get 10 before and 10 after.
Did you manage to save precapture on C3 then. And then turn it off in the menu?? I thougt it was strange that I could not assign a button for on and off for precapture function.....
@@tma3str yes you can still turn it off in the menus, or just cycle to C1 with the M-fn
Very good Video. Thanks.
Glad you liked it!
I tried "Blackout free display" but then was wondering why the camera showed me that FPS logo every time it woke up. I guess that also enables high framerate on the viewfinder. So I turned Blackout free display back off and found the shooting to still be buttery smooth and easy to track fast moving birds. I don't think it makes much difference and leaving it off frees you from those various limitations.
1. So, I push AF to make eye detection start working and hold it down to keep it working. What do i push to make spot focusing work? It seems like I will just see the spot on the bird but there is no way to make it focus once the spot is there.
2. I want to use electronic shutter but I got a message saying I can't because I selected blackout-free display AND pre-cont. shooting. I won't get 30 fps if I don't use electronic shutter, right?
Thx for the rundown Jan, very helpful M8. With Dbl Back Button spot focus though, I set up the base as you described but it is still wanting to track and is jumping all around. Doesn't seem to matter if I choose "spot" or "spot locked" mode, there is no difference with my Mk ii. I have the same setup on my R5 original but can't seem to get it right on this new one. Must be something else deep in the menu I need to change.
UPDATE: Found the problem. In customize buttons, AF "ON" button, Under AF - "details" at the bottom of screen there are a number of options and mine had "AF Area" set to [1], not "locked spot". Cheers.
Jan, I shoot Sony, but this is true for all cameras; turn off Bluetooth (turn ON Airplane mode), unless you're a press photographer or something. if you're not using Bluetooth for anything, why have it turned on. its a small transmitter, and uses up some battery capacity. same is true for Wifi. turn it off.
Yes I usually have wifi mode on
Hi Jan, great video, thank you. I'm still confused by one thing. With this set-up, when you press the Eye Tracking Autofocusing button (AF ON button), how does the camera know that you specifically want to track animals (birds), instead of people?
It identifies it itself
What is the recommended CF express card with Speed?
Hi Jan, thanks a lot for providing this detailed guidance👍 Shall be the first video I return to once I found a way to afford upgrading to the R5ii. But actually, it triggered me to finally start using the MyMenu on my current R5 ;-)
For stills you didn't seem to set AF subject to animals (was greyed out due to selecting spot AF without tracking), but I'm guessing you temporary set here an AF method with tracking in order to select Animals, which you're using later via the AF-On button, right ?
I'm really wondering whether you're able to "abuse" registering persons for people priority by registering here bird species instead of regular persons. That might help to pick a rare bird from a flock of many birds ..
Is the red button to switch to Movie-C3 the only remaining option to switch between stills and movie (for which you don't have to force your left hand to drop the long glass 🙈) ?? Is it still possible to hit info after hitting the mode button ?
You added 'drive mode' in your MyMenu, which seems not possible on the old R5. Does the R5ii have a way to emulate the a9iii and assign a boost function to a button which would switch from H to H+ while holding such button ?
This was great! Thank you for explaining the difference between spot focus and spot focus with the lock. I was using spot focus and wondered why there was a moving blue box. What I don't understand is why. The spot focus point doesnt't automatically move to get on the subject. I know that if I press the joy stick straight in, that spot focus will re-center. What am I supposed to do to get that spot focus to go to the moving blue box? I am using dual back button focus with one button assigned for spot focus, not locked, and the other button for animal eye AF.
I followed along with your video set up as well. I used all your settings, then registered that to C3. So, when I'm in camera stills mode and press the red record button, the camera will record in those settings, correct? What about slow motion? If I go back to movie mode, what are the settings? I'd like to try this. Could I then register those settings to C2 to use when the camera is in stills mode? Or, do I just flip the switch to movie mode and leave the settings as I set them? I'm a complete novice when it comes to video. I just occasionally shoot some bird clips.
Thank you so very much for this tutorial. I am really happy that I upgraded from the R5. I really appreciate the time you take to educate us. I'm looking forward to all of your beautiful photos and videos to come.
Hi Cathy, as far as I understand, the red button switches just as hardcoded to Movie-C3 as the original R5 does. So I decided to configure my C3 for slow motion, assuming I'd need slomo more urgently in case some cool action happens. For regular video I take a bit more time to activate that C1/C2 mode.
The red button also starts recording asap, so as Jan explained it's good practice to first visit movie-C3 to set the exposure for the conditions on the day, before flipping to stills mode.
However, a few times I started (by accident) filming completely underexposed at ISO100, and while filming I cranked up the ISO which had as a nice effect as if someone smoothly switched on the sun ;-)
@WernerBirdNature Thanks Werner!
Thanks!
Thank you!
Thanks for the video 👍. Got my R5 II this week.
Ich have one question about the settings. May be someone can help me.
I want to set up a single button that uses 30 picture/sec, eye detection, a spezific shutter speed. Purpose: unexpected action happens and i am quickly rdy for that.
Is this possible and have someone a link for a video what explains/shows that?