5 Advanced WARNING Signs of OVER-EDITED Photos

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  • @MarkDenneyPhoto
    @MarkDenneyPhoto  2 місяці тому +9

    🌟QUICK QUESTION: What did I miss that has impacted your photo editing?

    • @dr.jensmasselmann901
      @dr.jensmasselmann901 2 місяці тому +3

      I often see linear gradients pulled from the sky down over the scenery, affecting the background , e.g . mountains etc.

    • @lphilpot01
      @lphilpot01 2 місяці тому +5

      This is also a personal / style thing, but so often I see overly-darkened skies typically almost black at the top of the frame. I usually bring the sky down but to me it looks unnatural to have a normally-illuminated scene with extremely dark clouds hovering at the top of the frame. By all means, take advantage of all the mood and texture you've captured in the sky, but a bright-ish scene with very dark clouds is unbalanced to my eye.

    • @DigitalPhotoGuru
      @DigitalPhotoGuru 2 місяці тому +2

      When you add contrast in the Tone Curve, you can use the Refine Saturation slider if the image is over-saturated after using the Tone Curve to pump up the contrast.

    • @robvercouteren
      @robvercouteren 2 місяці тому +4

      Hey there Mark, i think an overlooked but really important factor is using a calibrated monitor. Even a unsignificant monitor can be calibrated. Most often the monitors are set to using very bright whites.

    • @NiceShotStudio
      @NiceShotStudio 2 місяці тому

      @@MarkDenneyPhoto You inspired e to take some paid classes. Well done.👍

  • @Bob_Amaral_Photography
    @Bob_Amaral_Photography 2 місяці тому +51

    Love the tip on the mask over the sun and turning down texture, clarity, and dehaze. 90% of my shots are of the sun. This will help. One of those tips where you say to yourself.."Why didn't I think of that?" Great video Mark. Thanks for all you do!

  • @MikeGiovinazzo
    @MikeGiovinazzo Місяць тому +34

    excess skin smoothing is perhaps the other over-edited sign I struggeled with.

    • @abhijit-sarkar
      @abhijit-sarkar 23 дні тому

      What are you talking about - making skin look like a pair of polished dress shoes is great.

  • @Scyth3934
    @Scyth3934 Місяць тому +13

    Nearly 1000 hours in lightroom and I didn't know that shift-auto trick!

  • @alanbudge
    @alanbudge 2 місяці тому +21

    What a great tip at 1:55 holding the shift key and double clicking to give suggested amount. Must play around with this. Another little gem Mark, thank you.

    • @MarkDenneyPhoto
      @MarkDenneyPhoto  2 місяці тому +1

      Glad to do it my friend!

    • @pedrosanchez4035
      @pedrosanchez4035 2 місяці тому +2

      @@MarkDenneyPhoto Best lightroom tip I have heard in a while!! How did I not know that?

  • @Cocc0nuttt0
    @Cocc0nuttt0 2 місяці тому +169

    I regularly see awfully over edited photos on Flickr and such get thousands of likes despite obvious and jarring issues - white halos, fried HDR colors, etc. I don't get it.

    • @larrydzemorsky1777
      @larrydzemorsky1777 2 місяці тому

      Omg flickr 😅 glad to hear it exists after this all years. So, people go there for the entertainment, not art.

    • @roglar
      @roglar 2 місяці тому +53

      The average person like the auto HDR crap produced by smartphones, and uses it as a benchmark for how a photo should look like. For example my mother, bless her, thinks her rather old iPad produces better photos than my Sony and Canon full frame cameras with quality glass.

    • @curtsuneson6161
      @curtsuneson6161 2 місяці тому +6

      ​@@roglarYour mother would be correct

    • @JasonEkonomakos
      @JasonEkonomakos 2 місяці тому +39

      ​@@curtsuneson6161 in no way does an iPad shooting the same exact scene take a better image, stop trying to be contrarian

    • @Chulagial
      @Chulagial 2 місяці тому +5

      I also see it all the time. I may post a highly saturated photo made by a phone on my private page and get a lot of likes but on a photography group get a lot criticism. 😝

  • @sveeny
    @sveeny Місяць тому +3

    Great video! I'm not surprised that many of the classic over editing mistakes have to do with overly increased dynamic range and detail contrast. I still get the urge sometimes when editing. Sometimes you need to stare at a blank wall (or at least away from your screen) and then look at your work again to realize you went a little over board 😀

  • @PhucketThugLife
    @PhucketThugLife 15 днів тому +1

    I could agree with this up to the last section about contrast. Contrast to my eyes really affects the mood and it's hard to achieve certain moods if everything looks neutral.

  • @rayasiala9375
    @rayasiala9375 2 місяці тому +8

    Absolutely wonderful knowledge again! I am notorious for over editing and over baking my photos.
    This is definitely gonna give me some things to think about and try and apply on a regular basis.
    Thank you for posting this!

  • @the_rat_run
    @the_rat_run 2 місяці тому +11

    I'm happy to note that I'm not guiilty of any of the issues you brought up in the video, Mark. Not that I'm a whizz, only that so many of the Pro photographer channels I view create images that look so unreal, I do my best to not bake things too hard... If the photo looks like I remember when taking it, I stop! Great watching though, as always. (I loved the tip that softened the sun though!)

  • @hnurminen
    @hnurminen 2 місяці тому +23

    I love your props - the Maxell VHS tape and the Walkman. Hits big time with someone who was a teenager in the 80s.

  • @kaibattistoni
    @kaibattistoni 24 дні тому +1

    This is really interesting,
    I started taking pictures about a year ago and I really don't do any of the things you do with your editing! I use lightroom in a completely different way, mainly focusing on color grading & brightening since I take nearly all my pictures with a negative exposure compensation. The pictures you used as examples are very dramatic, otherworldly pictures while I end up taking more opportunisitic landscape photography street photography. I usually keep my sharpening at default or reduce it to 0, never really like playing with dehaze, clarity, or texture.
    What I like doing is going to the individual color saturation sliders and starting each at -100, and then slowly bringing back color from red to magenta one by one, focusing on highlighting colors that greatly contribute to the image, and trying to keep the amount of those colors in the image between 3 and 5.
    It's interesting to see different uses of lightroom and different problems people face in the same hobby!

  • @jonathaneilert144
    @jonathaneilert144 11 днів тому

    I have been reflecting on my editing lately and feeling like I am overdoing it. Thanks for the confirmation. Guilty as charged:).

  • @jtkyber
    @jtkyber 9 днів тому

    Maxing out the saturation and vibrancy to set the color balance is such a good tip! I'm gonna start doing that

  • @rustyschackleford5800
    @rustyschackleford5800 2 місяці тому +8

    Do your sharpening in Photoshop. That way you can adjust it, and prevent the halos in the first place. First copy the background layer. Filter->Other->High Pass. Adjust the pixel size, and set the blend mode to Soft/Vivid Light.

  • @janineedmondson8308
    @janineedmondson8308 Місяць тому +1

    Excellent tutorial - one thing I noted is - you can in basics (highlight, white, shadow, etc) you can hold down the option key - which turns your screen white - and if you see any blown out/dark areas you can slide the bar left/right until you can’t see them or they are reduced as much as possible.
    Not sure if I’m explaining this right but it’s an additional thing for basics (also works on the sharpening area - masks)

  • @Centauri27
    @Centauri27 29 днів тому

    These are great tips Mark! I can really identify with the color balance and crushed highlights. Great tip on how to get a "realistic" color balance, I gotta try that for sure! 👍

  • @michele_di_chito
    @michele_di_chito 2 місяці тому +10

    Hi Mark, over saturation can be another common mistake

  • @lyndarodig8707
    @lyndarodig8707 2 місяці тому +3

    Thanks Mark - I learned something new again!

  • @PatrickRosenbalm
    @PatrickRosenbalm 2 місяці тому +1

    Good advice. I remember when dynamic range and over boosting shadows were the thing on DPReview. Lots of fighting and trolling over it. To the point I deleted my account and never looked back. I'm glad to see things have changed since then.

  • @Kitcatkiss12
    @Kitcatkiss12 2 місяці тому +2

    Thanks for these! I appreciate these types of videos. Very helpful.

  • @williamsullivan3967
    @williamsullivan3967 Місяць тому

    I found this super helpful. I’ve very green when it comes to editing but little by little, I’m learning. Thank you!!

  • @Batch00
    @Batch00 Місяць тому

    This is exactly the sort of thing I was looking for! I recently edited a bunch of holiday photos and I was concerned about over-editing some of them! I'm surprised how few of these mistakes I've made, especially as a fair few were sunset pictures taken straight into the sun!

  • @tessadagnely2201
    @tessadagnely2201 Місяць тому

    I like this video! It’s obvious that I did all these « over » in my photographs, and now I’m very careful with that. But sometimes…still not enough.

  • @3twelves
    @3twelves 2 місяці тому

    Thank you, Mark. I always love watching your tutorials.

  • @scottthompson8561
    @scottthompson8561 2 місяці тому +7

    Thanks, Mark. Great advice, as usual. The biggest problem I have when editing my photos is knowing when I am finished. I start and stop, come back and edit some more. Then I get frustrated and start all over again from the beginning. How do you decide you are finished with an edit?

  • @jerrykita8767
    @jerrykita8767 2 місяці тому

    Great information, Mark. I think I've broken myself of these bad habits (mostly!), but this is a great checklist of reminders. Good stuff to remember while I edit.

  • @brianalpert2383
    @brianalpert2383 2 місяці тому +2

    I like to reduce shadows and highlights to the point that you make things visible without creating a phony HDR look. You can get away with reducing the shadows and highlights by a significant amount if you simultaneously move the black slider to the left to create a black point and the whites slider to the right to create a white point. For me, doing that usually negates the need to increase the contrast.

  • @D0209962
    @D0209962 2 місяці тому +18

    My pet hate is wonky horizons. So easy to eradicate in post processing, yet so surprisingly common!

    • @dtriverside8559
      @dtriverside8559 2 місяці тому +1

      I agree in general but if you look at the very wonky horizons behind Mona Lisa, how much does it really matter?😮

    • @D0209962
      @D0209962 2 місяці тому

      @@dtriverside8559 As I have never noticed, you have a very good point!

  • @NK-vs3tv
    @NK-vs3tv 2 місяці тому

    Great video, thank you! I found tip number three especially helpful. Yes, I usually struggle a lot with the sky and sun in landscape photos.

  • @michaelt7320
    @michaelt7320 2 місяці тому

    Thanks, Mark, for another great and informative video, especially for solving White Balance issues and editing bright and sunny skies.

  • @jimgernon7452
    @jimgernon7452 2 місяці тому +2

    Maybe the most helpful video of yours for me. I use Luminar Neo and Affinity Photo 2 but video really hit the mark. Thanks

  • @dodgybob
    @dodgybob 2 місяці тому

    G'day Mark,
    Thanks again for imparting some wisdom on this subject. Ive recently been revisiting shots I took over 5 years ago when I started out with LR, and boy did I get some results from my inital "over processed" edits..
    Cheers

  • @mc5869
    @mc5869 23 дні тому

    Masking the sun - great tip Mark 👌🏻

  • @DanielSymphonies
    @DanielSymphonies Місяць тому

    Good tips! and very clearly presented. I probably wouldn't really call setting a poor white balance "over-editing" though

  • @turnipthebeet7120
    @turnipthebeet7120 2 місяці тому +12

    I feel attacked.😂
    Great video! Thank you!

  • @sueowen3891
    @sueowen3891 Місяць тому

    I learnt such a lot from this video, thanks for explaining things so clearly.

  • @lucasperrin7049
    @lucasperrin7049 2 місяці тому

    Very interesting video. It’s always important to question yourself and not go to far in my editing. Thanks for your advices.

  • @davidwhite3296
    @davidwhite3296 Місяць тому

    Thanks, Mark. Very helpful - as ever!

  • @Art-nh8wf
    @Art-nh8wf 2 місяці тому

    Thanks for a much needed video for me. Mostly crushing the highlights.

  • @anthonyroffe5628
    @anthonyroffe5628 2 місяці тому

    Great video that brings up some great points that we have all been guilty of I suspect ( and probably still are to some extent)

  • @timfarmer5535
    @timfarmer5535 Місяць тому

    Always great info, thanks. I see the sun issue a lot and the over sharpening with the outline. If I have a print I'm selling and it's going large, I will go though with a stamp-darken and stamp-lighten to remove that in PS. It can take some time but I find it is worth it. In May I was able to capture the Aurora at the St. Louis Gateway Arch and I had a lot of issues with those lines and the trees. I think I spent two hours just cleaning that part up. Totally worth the time.

  • @richardduckworth859
    @richardduckworth859 Місяць тому

    Super video Mark. Thanks so much.

  • @DebiSenGupta
    @DebiSenGupta 2 місяці тому +2

    Very useful. Thank you

  • @richardhurst3368
    @richardhurst3368 2 місяці тому

    Good Video, it certainly is a learning process & very subjective. I found since printing my photos my editing has changed I think for the better. Enjoy your videos.

  • @Chris_2023_
    @Chris_2023_ 2 місяці тому

    Another awesome video Mark! Thank you!

  • @RikMaxSpeed
    @RikMaxSpeed 2 місяці тому

    Helpful video - many of the editing tools in Lightroom/Photoshop encourage over-editing and lead to uncanny valley photographs.

  • @MagnitudeReviews
    @MagnitudeReviews 18 днів тому

    I'm definitely guilty of just dropping my highlights to -100. I do it all the time. Arguably too much. But I do like the the sun texture tip, never thought of that before.

  • @jamesbartek6230
    @jamesbartek6230 2 місяці тому

    Nice presentation and summation here Mark. Again. 📸 🙂

  • @laurencebertrand-rispal4894
    @laurencebertrand-rispal4894 Місяць тому

    thank you so much ! it will be very useful

  • @ericprouzet3851
    @ericprouzet3851 2 місяці тому

    Thanks for these excellent pieces of advice. I will put them in practice asap!

  • @hasselhoff3379
    @hasselhoff3379 Місяць тому

    adding lightrooms grain is my personal pet peeve. There are tons of great grain and noise overlays that can be used and look less generic.

  • @allanduff7234
    @allanduff7234 2 місяці тому

    Really helpful instruction, thank you!

  • @waynejones1054
    @waynejones1054 Місяць тому

    Useful advice. Many thanks.

  • @markjones127
    @markjones127 19 днів тому +1

    I do a lot of hiking, wild camping and mountain running so hang out a lot in specialist groups for those activities and 90% of the pictures posted in those groups have images with clarity through the roof, it really annoys me when an awful photo gets loads of positive comments, I once made the mistake of trying to give constructive criticism but it just fell on deaf ears and I got attacked and called a photo snob, so I just keep my mouth shut these days! 🤣

  • @robertavery8002
    @robertavery8002 2 місяці тому

    Very helpful tips -many thanks Mark.

  • @MartinB0
    @MartinB0 Місяць тому

    cool, the sun mask trick is perfect, thank you

  • @arohila
    @arohila 2 місяці тому +2

    Very helpful tips thanks

  • @dr.jensmasselmann901
    @dr.jensmasselmann901 2 місяці тому +6

    Great, as usual Mark! You adress topics in a clear, interesting and easy-to-take-home way that really differs from the redundant content of so many other UA-camrs in the field. For me same quality and style as Simon D'Entremont.... Thanks a lot!

  • @nerdnam
    @nerdnam Місяць тому

    Thanks for this excellent vid. I see you have a MacBook Pro. I just recently realized that the MP has a lot of display settings that impact my photography work. For instance you can turn off the automatic adjustments, change the white balance, and set a permanent white point. Maybe a video on that would good?

  • @susanfirth2279
    @susanfirth2279 2 місяці тому

    Great video and tips Mark.

  • @vladconstantinminea
    @vladconstantinminea 2 місяці тому +3

    I would also like to add that these edits might look sometimes good on a screen, but try to print them and the result would be 10 times worse.

  • @joonatanrimpilainen637
    @joonatanrimpilainen637 20 днів тому

    About the shadows, I feel like the first river image looked like some fairy land with shadows upped all the way. And I liked the look of it! So I feel like it is okay to make images "weird and unnatural" if you feel like that looks good to you, if the realistic look is not the thing you are aiming for.

  • @Joenah5
    @Joenah5 Місяць тому

    …I kinda like the overly defined sky’s though lol. Like the example where you had the, as you put it, “crunchy” sun was my favorite for that image.

  • @vickiBRAUNAGEL
    @vickiBRAUNAGEL Місяць тому

    I appreciate your tips. How about tips to avoid over saturation? I know I love color and frequently have to reduce the vibrance or saturation when I go back and review the edited photo later. Thanks.

  • @nonexman
    @nonexman 2 місяці тому +2

    Your question, my answer: taking time to edit photos that should not be saved in the first place. One can edit a good photo to be a great photo, but if the photo isn't good to begin with (no obvious subject, off balance, etc.), delete or move on. (I admit I occasionally keep these images because something of interest is in the photo; it's just not a good photo.
    I'm delightedly proud of observing your five points: I passed! However, your point about no shadows: when I started doing HDR (some 20-ish years ago), I removed the shadows left and right because I could!!! A photographer friend looked at one of my photos and said: "where's the shadows??" That solved that then and there!. HDR is good. Shadows are good. Both together are even better! :>)

  • @aps-pictures9335
    @aps-pictures9335 2 місяці тому +1

    That first technique can work incredibly well if used in the right context - I’ve a stunning couple of landscape photos - also seen it used well in some portrait/wedding styles for a cinematic look. Would I use it for most of my photos? No. But it’s good to know!

  • @GeorginaEllmann
    @GeorginaEllmann 2 місяці тому

    Thank you for your tutorials they are beneficial

  • @marsmith7
    @marsmith7 2 місяці тому

    Thanks, I learned a lot!

  • @NiceShotStudio
    @NiceShotStudio 2 місяці тому

    This was a good video. Found it helpful.

  • @benlewis3682
    @benlewis3682 2 місяці тому

    Amazing video thank you

  • @Xo1ot1
    @Xo1ot1 Місяць тому

    I have a commercial calendar here from a very good photographer and even some of his photos have halos on mountain edges.

  • @DaveKingMusic
    @DaveKingMusic 2 місяці тому

    All great tips!

  • @chantallabelle8571
    @chantallabelle8571 2 місяці тому

    Very interesting! I really see my self when you talk about over sharpening! :-). What I also have difficulty to adjust is green ! I have difficulty to adjust it correctly. I often feel that it is too blue. But I always have a hard time to adjust it correctly. Too yellow, too magenta, and so on. :-) very good video as usual !

  • @staiain
    @staiain Місяць тому +1

    The most unpleasant thing I see people sometimes do by mistake is when clipped highlights (like a sun) are moved below 255 and it becomes a shade of gray

  • @Itslikeimsayin
    @Itslikeimsayin 2 місяці тому +1

    Another one is trying to make something out of nothing with the dehaze slider. It can make a boring sky more interesting but can also quickly go way too far.

  • @gregtowns549
    @gregtowns549 2 місяці тому

    Yep, guilty of all 5 once upon a time.Plus oversaturation and over sharpening.Better now, although every now and then I'll overcook a pic. Say a few choice words and hit reset😵‍💫

  • @DigitalPhotoGuru
    @DigitalPhotoGuru 2 місяці тому +1

    Sharpening is a huge factor. I alway set the radius to the lowest point (0.5) so the sharpening doesn't extend too far from the edges. Not having a heavy hand with the amount and using masking are to me, key factors in applying the proper amount of sharpening to an image. How much detail do you crank in when you sharpen your images, Mark?

  • @dan.allen.digital
    @dan.allen.digital 2 місяці тому +3

    The older crowd on Facebook tends to like super HDR over-edited pictures if that's your key demographic... Nice useful Lightroom tips Mark.

  • @waesyp
    @waesyp Місяць тому

    After years, I've come to realize that the best result in basic panel is to start from a base of shadows +30 and highlights -30 to bring back details in a natural way imo. Then I use masking tools for specific areas.
    In a way, social networks have made over-edited photos the norm.

  • @sarojkumarmanna4148
    @sarojkumarmanna4148 2 місяці тому

    Subject is very elaborative & help me to understand post processing mistake ...Except Light Room Any other editing software have these type of facility ??

  • @daviesmia
    @daviesmia 2 місяці тому

    I struggle a bit with the tone curve, I've surrendered and typically use the medium contrast auto botton

  • @analogmusings9888
    @analogmusings9888 Місяць тому

    i always try that i have just enough shadow to get more depht and just enough hilight that its not blown out. color on the other hand is subjective

  • @MarioDuch
    @MarioDuch Місяць тому

    I have to admit, I love crushing my highlights down :D That sun tip that you shared will be very useful in my next photos! Btw, I got to ask, was the Aroll shot on an iPhone using Apple Log?

  • @yolandepianet7800
    @yolandepianet7800 2 місяці тому +1

    Sounds like you speak about my editing work process 😂

  • @Powerstroke98
    @Powerstroke98 2 місяці тому

    Great information Mark, thanks! Question, I tend to use my iPhone for many images these days, whether it be Landscape or Portraits, and the odd video. Unsure if you use your phone much, but on the iPhone 14 Pro Max, which as the feature to use RAW (which I use on my Nikon) but I tend to just use .jpg as I find they still edit out quite well. Now, as far as I know, I don't have the feature to bring up a histogram (which I use on my Nikon) thus knowing exactly where to go with the editing numbers is hard to know, so I just go by what I 'feel' is correct. I wonder if you might at some point show editing on a cell/smartphone at some point? With the smartphones having better lenses, I'm finding they capture low light exceedingly well, and the editing process is available of course, but thoughts on going about it, might help many of us get a better end result? Thanks again!

  • @rice_frying_shrimp
    @rice_frying_shrimp 23 дні тому

    Part of why I work with presets even after years of editing experience is because they keep me in check. I know that there was a very purposeful idea behind those visuals and either I applied them wrong or I tuned them wrong when something starts looking out of the line but the fix at that point is fairly simple. Is it a crutch? Sure. Does my photography suffer from it? Not really because I use it very consciously and carefully.

  • @SilverSpoon_
    @SilverSpoon_ Місяць тому

    10:00
    magical wand.
    oh god. I give up.

  • @DobromirManchev
    @DobromirManchev Місяць тому

    We went to the Faroes and Iceland last month too! When exactly were you there? Maybe we crossed paths somewhere :)
    (I wish i had taken such great shots as you... the weather wasn't all that great when we were there :( )

  • @drawerganizer785
    @drawerganizer785 Місяць тому

    It's important to have good global contrast. Light areas need to be light and dark areas need to be dark. Shadows are an important part of any image's aesthetic and good lighting creates good shadows. I've seen a lot of photos with the shadows removed, and if you squint your eyes, it's a flat field of color. You can lighten the shadows to get more contrast in dark areas, but it often throws the look of the image as a whole off.

  • @ianmcclue65
    @ianmcclue65 2 місяці тому +8

    you're clock has stopped.

  • @lalitdewangan7830
    @lalitdewangan7830 2 місяці тому +1

    Helpful tips

  • @randall.chamberlain
    @randall.chamberlain 2 місяці тому

    Fantastic advice

  • @geimfarinn
    @geimfarinn Місяць тому

    Feels like an advert for Lightroom

  • @DominikMarczuk
    @DominikMarczuk 2 місяці тому +2

    Oversaturation. I don't know what it is that people find so attractive in unnaturally saturated colours but it's all over social media nowadays. Nothing's that saturated in real life. It especially bothers me in landscapes.

    • @romanpul
      @romanpul 2 місяці тому +1

      ‘bright colors blind the eyes’. Oversaturation looks flashy and grab attention. It’s an easy way to make your pictures interesting on first glance. That’s why that effect is baked into most smartphone cameras these days

  • @somnathguria754
    @somnathguria754 2 місяці тому

    Very very helpful video.
    ...

  • @JonAnderhub
    @JonAnderhub 2 місяці тому +1

    Thanks
    Now I have to go back and fix all my "fixed" photos.
    LOL

  • @clausgiloi6036
    @clausgiloi6036 2 місяці тому

    Interesting... I did not know the "hold down shift to show auto settings" trick.

  • @soarpurpose
    @soarpurpose 2 місяці тому

    A lot of it comes down to personal taste. People tend to go overboard with saturation.

  • @ilesmic
    @ilesmic 2 місяці тому

    I am a color guy and it took me years to not really crank the vibrance and saturation-- Now I may move the vibrance up to 10-20 and reduce the saturation a bit like negative 5-10. Don't get me wrong my photos still have a lot of color but I shoot a lot of colorful sunrises and flowers here in the Pacific NW.