A couple years ago I spent about $450 on a new Benchmade Infidel. Loved the thing for about a month until I stabbed the tip into an old desk, without even that much pressure, and I broke the action. When I took it apart the piece that connects the blade to the rails had snapped. Contacted bench made and was told it would cost something like $250 to repair. Uh, excuse me? Yeah, they wouldn't even warranty it. Shortly after got my first Microtech Combat Troodon. Worried that it might fail like the bench made I really abused it. Stabbed it through an old fridge door many times, hammered it through a sheet of plywood, and a lot more. The thing is indestructible. So hands down go with the Microtech. For the same price you get a knife that is far superior in toughness and finish. IMHO, the Infidel is a piece of junk and Benchmade knows it.
I just got the infidel and I love the fact that I’m not the only person that saw the nut sack on the knife. I made a joke about that today at work with a coworker. Also, I love the fact that you still go back to your old videos and see peoples comments. you just got yourself a subscriber you’re amazing.
Might be late, but thought I'd say something. If you have the feeling an OTF fires slow or different in one direction than the other there are 2 things I have see. The L shaped piece on either side of the spring can rub on the inside of the housing and brake the springs a bit. I have seen a rough surface on the upper side of the piece, after polishing it the knife fired much harder. Another thing that might lead the piece to rub is that it does not sit right in the spring holder. Had a knife, where the L bracket had a bit of a sharp corner that made it press against the housing on the outwrds stroke. After filing it off the piece sat much deeper in the holder and had less contact with the housing making this knife also fire much easier and faster.
In terms of a weapon that might have to be used as intended, the Infidel is actually designed as a real world weapon, not a couch fidget tool. With that said, I'm a huge fan of the Microtech knives and absolutely love them. A latest review of the colored handle Infidels of the big knife seller websites show the Infidel going for $650 which is a ridiculous price.
I’ll be honest, I much prefer the infidel handle. God forbid you ever do find yourself using it as it’s intended, the faceted design and overall shape of the handle will offer a rock solid grip.
I have the dirac delta, and I was worried about slipping so I've done a lot of hard poking into hard things to make sure it wouldn't slip, and it surprised me, I couldn't get it to move
I'd go with the Microtech all day. They have survived some of the nastiest torture tests of any otf knives. The reliability and construction of the Microtech is second to none. The Benchmade is a fine otf knife, but the Delta has it beat in my opinion.
Do you think that for $230 it would be a different story? Or is even $230 too high a price for the outdated infidel? I hear a lot of comparisons and criticisms about the blade steel and how outdated it is and overpriced it is compared to other knives the same price ($500) however rn it’s being sold on Benchmades site for $230. I don’t think I can justify $400+ for a knife it’s just not something in my budget, but $230 on the other hand is very affordable. Wdy think? Is even $230 “overpriced” for the infidel?
I had both and used both extensively and I will tell you if your looking to use it for field work or any sort of real world application the infidel worked better for me. The texture of the material, the east of the blade mechanism it was was just simpler to use and extremely durable. BYW, the spring stiffness has nothing to do with operation or reliability of it just for your info. I will give the Microtech the more elegant look of your into that stuff but I the end of the day I prefer function over fashion. Just my opinion
That's not entirely true that spring stiffness has nothing to do with reliability. Sure design, blade mass, fit, tolerances, etc also are factors in reliability, but how much force is applied to the blade obviously is a factor in whether the blade locks out. And the switch strength is directly related to the main spring.
Interesting I have an Ultratech and Infidel and my Ultratech definitely has a slight bit more play when deployed then my Infidel. Both have great lock up when deployed for OTF's
I wouldn’t get a Benchmade infidel after watching this. I’ve had my eye on a Dirac Delta, and didn’t realize how far the gap is between Microtech and Benchmade OTF’s.
I own numerous Microtech OTF knives. I narrowly prefer Microtech over Benchmade, but I must admit, I absolutely love my Infidel. I believe it's the best knife Benchmade has ever produced. Super reliable, great blade, and the handle is extremely grippy and combat ready.
@@edged_mindset No, it's not. Benchmade still manufacturers the Infidel due to its popularity and reputation. Numerous retailers have a bunch of them for sale.
Yea I have a lightning otf with less blade play than my benchmade! I'm guessing the longer handle & blade tang on the microtech offers better stability
@@edged_mindset Btw the Dirac Delta is the name of a famous physics function relating to impulse kinda like instant motion so I think it’s pretty fitting!
I just read through this entire comment section, and a few thoughts. People can no longer spell, and grammar is nonexistent. Other than that, it’s just unpaid brand ambassadors sperging at each other..
@@edged_mindset I am on the market for an OTf. I am very curious on this issue as that could be the deciding factor for me. Does it really have good warranty? I have heard many stories and it does make me nervous
They are 450 on your site right now wtd Why can't u buy a infidel for a decent price? Everyone jas raised the price for 450. You can almost get some of the best otfs
My benchmade has gone on deployments countless times, been put through hell and back during regular around the house uses. I've had it since around the time the knife came out, if i had to guess 2008 or 2009. It's got a few hickups with it now, it's unreliable to come out (1 time out of 20 it hangs up) and its a great thumb workout now, beyond that still a fantastic knife. Wish i remembered where i got it so i could fill out a warranty and send it in for some long overdue TLC.
@@edged_mindset I own a benchmade and after some research and many saying the microtech's blade movement was less to none I picked up a mirotech dirac delta and a heretic manticore x. Maybe they just all vary bc they both wiggle as much as the benchmade and the heretic had the most movement of the 3.
Everything other than the possible deployment issues with the weaker spring is pretty much irrelevant, when it comes to a practical standpoint...that puppy will pierce right through a temple let alone a torso as intended as a combat blade. Your getting more blade in a smaller more robust package that allows for better purchase in the hand. No disrespect just my humble opinion. I've seen that blade pierce the hood of a car no problem.💀
no, i agree microtech has a better one but i am saying the difference is neglegable in practical applications and that the infidel has quite a few more critical pros over the microtech.
@@edged_mindset Right, I'm not really looking at cost as a factor the money isn't going to contribute to the function, bottom line is i think you could trust your life with either or.
The Infidel is a toy compared to the Dirac Delta. D2 vs m390 is no comparison. All materials and machining from microtech are far superior. And it costs less! I tried to like Benchmade for years, but they just don’t bring it. Only ZT, Hinderer, and Microtech for me at the moment.
I don’t even recognize Benchmade as a knife maker - wouldn’t have one if given to me with $500 check. Good knives for sure, but over priced - almost every single one. Chris Reeve, Medford and Microtech for me and I ignore everything else.
The reason to get the Infidel is if you plan on actually stabbing things... the handle on the Infidel is exponentially better for actually holding onto while stabbing into objects with decent resistance, and the locking mechanism is better. The Delta is much more likely for your hand to slide forward if you stab something. I do wish the Benchmade had a glass breaker, but I think you can get a modified pocket clip that has a glass breaker integrated into it.
opinion translation into facts ....ugh umm here goes benchmade infidel is BM top of the line otf....from microtech the top of the line still is the halo.....now opinion becomes fact....would you rather be stabbed by the infidel or a halo.....infidel....thus fact MT and halo win
it should be a battle of the top teir otfs from each company that's what the infidel is from benchmade it is legit.....but microtech comes thru with the halo....nuff said
Lmao i like the infidel , actually like the way it looks . But it just doesn’t function worth a crap . If they could make jt function as good as dirac I’d get one
A couple years ago I spent about $450 on a new Benchmade Infidel. Loved the thing for about a month until I stabbed the tip into an old desk, without even that much pressure, and I broke the action. When I took it apart the piece that connects the blade to the rails had snapped. Contacted bench made and was told it would cost something like $250 to repair. Uh, excuse me? Yeah, they wouldn't even warranty it.
Shortly after got my first Microtech Combat Troodon. Worried that it might fail like the bench made I really abused it. Stabbed it through an old fridge door many times, hammered it through a sheet of plywood, and a lot more. The thing is indestructible. So hands down go with the Microtech. For the same price you get a knife that is far superior in toughness and finish. IMHO, the Infidel is a piece of junk and Benchmade knows it.
I just got the infidel and I love the fact that I’m not the only person that saw the nut sack on the knife. I made a joke about that today at work with a coworker. Also, I love the fact that you still go back to your old videos and see peoples comments. you just got yourself a subscriber you’re amazing.
🤣 Thank you so much!
Microtech > Benchmade. It’s as easy as that. Add the DE with one side being fully serrated and that Dirac Delta will handle all cutting needs…
Might be late, but thought I'd say something. If you have the feeling an OTF fires slow or different in one direction than the other there are 2 things I have see. The L shaped piece on either side of the spring can rub on the inside of the housing and brake the springs a bit. I have seen a rough surface on the upper side of the piece, after polishing it the knife fired much harder. Another thing that might lead the piece to rub is that it does not sit right in the spring holder. Had a knife, where the L bracket had a bit of a sharp corner that made it press against the housing on the outwrds stroke. After filing it off the piece sat much deeper in the holder and had less contact with the housing making this knife also fire much easier and faster.
Thanks for the tips!
In terms of a weapon that might have to be used as intended, the Infidel is actually designed as a real world weapon, not a couch fidget tool. With that said, I'm a huge fan of the Microtech knives and absolutely love them. A latest review of the colored handle Infidels of the big knife seller websites show the Infidel going for $650 which is a ridiculous price.
I have both the Dirac is better knife and not a fidget toy moron
I’ll be honest, I much prefer the infidel handle. God forbid you ever do find yourself using it as it’s intended, the faceted design and overall shape of the handle will offer a rock solid grip.
I agree. Which is why I.want an I Fidel 2 with tighter tolerances ans s45vn steel!
Lol just put grip tape on it
Also if you actually grip the knife it shouldn't be a problem honestly
@@edged_mindsethuh? Infidel with s45vn? AFAIK it's only ever been made in d2 and s30v.
I have the dirac delta, and I was worried about slipping so I've done a lot of hard poking into hard things to make sure it wouldn't slip, and it surprised me, I couldn't get it to move
Infidel is ugly tho
I'd go with the Microtech all day. They have survived some of the nastiest torture tests of any otf knives. The reliability and construction of the Microtech is second to none. The Benchmade is a fine otf knife, but the Delta has it beat in my opinion.
Is this the larger dirac? Aren't there 2 different sizes?
Yes, the Dirac Delta is the large one
The regular Dirac is way too small in my opinion for an EDC and expensive for the size knife it is. Spend the extra money for the Delta.
Great comparison video
Thanks!
Do you think that for $230 it would be a different story? Or is even $230 too high a price for the outdated infidel? I hear a lot of comparisons and criticisms about the blade steel and how outdated it is and overpriced it is compared to other knives the same price ($500) however rn it’s being sold on Benchmades site for $230. I don’t think I can justify $400+ for a knife it’s just not something in my budget, but $230 on the other hand is very affordable. Wdy think? Is even $230 “overpriced” for the infidel?
230 for sure is worth it. MSRP is 400 - 500 and it has been sold at that in the past
I had both and used both extensively and I will tell you if your looking to use it for field work or any sort of real world application the infidel worked better for me. The texture of the material, the east of the blade mechanism it was was just simpler to use and extremely durable. BYW, the spring stiffness has nothing to do with operation or reliability of it just for your info. I will give the Microtech the more elegant look of your into that stuff but I the end of the day I prefer function over fashion. Just my opinion
That's not entirely true that spring stiffness has nothing to do with reliability. Sure design, blade mass, fit, tolerances, etc also are factors in reliability, but how much force is applied to the blade obviously is a factor in whether the blade locks out. And the switch strength is directly related to the main spring.
@@griff7749 I’ll give you that 👍🏻
@@griff7749 meaning the switch strength.
Interesting I have an Ultratech and Infidel and my Ultratech definitely has a slight bit more play when deployed then my Infidel. Both have great lock up when deployed for OTF's
Maybe it's Lucknow the draw?
Benchmade knows they can charge way more for a lesser product, so they do. They call it business. I call it ripping off soldiers.
For me, the BM is better in all categories. Yes even steel, because we know it will be heat treated better
you still have that Dirac Delta ? I'l buy it off of you :) I dig that color combo
Sorry long gone
I love my Infidel but at $450 I think the price is out of line. Luckily I paid quite a bit less.
What’s the purpose of these knives?
What is the purpose of an OTF Knife? #knife #switchblade #microtech #pocketknife
I wouldn’t get a Benchmade infidel after watching this. I’ve had my eye on a Dirac Delta, and didn’t realize how far the gap is between Microtech and Benchmade OTF’s.
Not all benchmade otf's. Just this one. The infidel hasn't been upgraded since inception decades ago
I own numerous Microtech OTF knives. I narrowly prefer Microtech over Benchmade, but I must admit, I absolutely love my Infidel. I believe it's the best knife Benchmade has ever produced. Super reliable, great blade, and the handle is extremely grippy and combat ready.
So sad that it's discontinued
It's not discontinued. Where did you hear that from
@@edged_mindset No, it's not. Benchmade still manufacturers the Infidel due to its popularity and reputation. Numerous retailers have a bunch of them for sale.
@@mikesav9 It's on theor 2021 published discontinued list. Are you saying the reversed that?
@@siegfired10xx74 It's on Benchmades official 2021 discontinued list
I can't take the infidel's fuller seriously because it has balls. The rest of the knife looks like benchmade's attempt at a deadlock.
Yea I have a lightning otf with less blade play than my benchmade! I'm guessing the longer handle & blade tang on the microtech offers better stability
I've always like the Dirac's name :) I think its pronounced "die-rack". To me, knifes just have some of the oddest names nowadays.
I will try and say it that way now
@@edged_mindset Btw the Dirac Delta is the name of a famous physics function relating to impulse kinda like instant motion so I think it’s pretty fitting!
@@bradenhenderson128 Nice!
@@edged_mindset you were saying it correctly actually
I just read through this entire comment section, and a few thoughts. People can no longer spell, and grammar is nonexistent. Other than that, it’s just unpaid brand ambassadors sperging at each other..
🤣
I love my Dirac!
Nice video man my dad is a benchmade guy and I’m a microtech guy. Where did you get your delta with the brass accents I’m looking for one.
american edge. all gone now
@@edged_mindset I can't find one anywhere. Been looking for weeks. 😞
@@jeremyfreeman1659 I have a full bronze one for sale. Bronze apocalyptic blade and antiqued bronze handle
@@edged_mindset can you pm me
You did not talk about the customer service and warranty. Benchmade warranty is well known for its quality
One would argue so is Microtech
@@edged_mindset I am on the market for an OTf. I am very curious on this issue as that could be the deciding factor for me. Does it really have good warranty? I have heard many stories and it does make me nervous
@@MADuranDude777 I have never had to use MT's warranty but from what I hear from others it is top notch.
@@edged_mindset Thank you for response. I will have to look at it more closely then!
Im not a pro but I think your benchmade is a fake
Where is the marking on the front of the blade down by the handle?
Great video though
Spreading that otf wisdom🤘🤘
I'm trying
They are 450 on your site right now wtd Why can't u buy a infidel for a decent price? Everyone jas raised the price for 450. You can almost get some of the best otfs
I.have no idea. I bought mone for 300 on.sale, I don't feel.they are worth more than that
The button on the Dirac tore my thumb up.
My UT was doing the same thing. I rolled up some sandpaper and smoothed it out a little, big difference. You just have to be careful.
My benchmade has gone on deployments countless times, been put through hell and back during regular around the house uses.
I've had it since around the time the knife came out, if i had to guess 2008 or 2009.
It's got a few hickups with it now, it's unreliable to come out (1 time out of 20 it hangs up) and its a great thumb workout now, beyond that still a fantastic knife. Wish i remembered where i got it so i could fill out a warranty and send it in for some long overdue TLC.
That's awesome to hesr!
My benchmade had almost no wiggle unlike every microtech
Really?! Mine has super bad forward and back movement
@@edged_mindset I own a benchmade and after some research and many saying the microtech's blade movement was less to none I picked up a mirotech dirac delta and a heretic manticore x. Maybe they just all vary bc they both wiggle as much as the benchmade and the heretic had the most movement of the 3.
Everything other than the possible deployment issues with the weaker spring is pretty much irrelevant, when it comes to a practical standpoint...that puppy will pierce right through a temple let alone a torso as intended as a combat blade. Your getting more blade in a smaller more robust package that allows for better purchase in the hand. No disrespect just my humble opinion. I've seen that blade pierce the hood of a car no problem.💀
So you are saying the infidel locking mechanism is superior?
no, i agree microtech has a better one but i am saying the difference is neglegable in practical applications and that the infidel has quite a few more critical pros over the microtech.
@@arielvera6169 Gotcha. That's fair. I love the infidel, I do feel the 400+ retail price is high for what you are getting though
@@edged_mindset Right, I'm not really looking at cost as a factor the money isn't going to contribute to the function, bottom line is i think you could trust your life with either or.
@@arielvera6169 For sure
The Infidel is a toy compared to the Dirac Delta. D2 vs m390 is no comparison. All materials and machining from microtech are far superior. And it costs less! I tried to like Benchmade for years, but they just don’t bring it. Only ZT, Hinderer, and Microtech for me at the moment.
Good video, thanks
thank you!
I don’t even recognize Benchmade as a knife maker - wouldn’t have one if given to me with $500 check. Good knives for sure, but over priced - almost every single one. Chris Reeve, Medford and Microtech for me and I ignore everything else.
The reason to get the Infidel is if you plan on actually stabbing things... the handle on the Infidel is exponentially better for actually holding onto while stabbing into objects with decent resistance, and the locking mechanism is better. The Delta is much more likely for your hand to slide forward if you stab something. I do wish the Benchmade had a glass breaker, but I think you can get a modified pocket clip that has a glass breaker integrated into it.
Sounds like a microtec salesman lmao
I wish. Salesmen get paid
The criteria you use to justify your preference are so subjective, so much just a matter of opinion, that your review is just tainted by them!
Yes! Which is why it is "my" review. ChatGPT could give you a great unbiased review that is a conglomeration of everything out there
LOL!
opinion translation into facts ....ugh umm here goes benchmade infidel is BM top of the line otf....from microtech the top of the line still is the halo.....now opinion becomes fact....would you rather be stabbed by the infidel or a halo.....infidel....thus fact MT and halo win
It's not dee rack its die rack
Delta all the way!
Infidel is gay!
Really gay!!!
😅😅😅
Dirac is referring to a shape of perfect cemetery. The left mirrors the right and it's not pronounced gearack it's pronounced die with an eye
🫡
lol cemetery? You mean *symmetry*
Frank was buried in the cemetery because he couldn’t use the words
it should be a battle of the top teir otfs from each company that's what the infidel is from benchmade it is legit.....but microtech comes thru with the halo....nuff said
I just got an new Infidel for $45!!!
i LOVE my infidel!!!
👊
Benchmade = Overpriced
Benchmade lock up is much better.
In which way?
Lol just a troll
Probably doesn't even have a micro
@@joshuajames2425 😅
@@joshuajames2425 I think he means the strength of the lock, not necessarily the tightness. Microtech lock design is crap compared to the infidel.
Infidel has a stronger lockup, no question. This comparison s****. ;)
Infidel is made for war and combat. The MT is made to look pretty which it is.
Both are nice But BM for me...
Lmao i like the infidel , actually like the way it looks . But it just doesn’t function worth a crap . If they could make jt function as good as dirac I’d get one
@@ilikeknafs9563what functional issues did you have with the infidel? They both work fine.
Thumbs down, no need to watch another biased review
Serious? This made you that upset? No need to thumbs down just because a video isn't for you. Just move along.
Dirac Delta or SOG Pentagon over the Benchmade any day
I prefer the infidel
Because of the twig and berries?
@@elduderinoakahisdudeness😁
It’s gay! Nice balls!
Anyone that likes the balfidel is gay period.
This infidel uses inferior steel