What if Slaking Didn’t Have Truant? - Pokemon Red Solo Challenge
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
- This one has been in the works since last year but we ask one simple question: Could Slaking without Truant dominate generation 1 like no other Pokemon can. The competition is steep and Mewtwo has set the bar high for these runs, but let's see how it plays out.
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Damn, slaking was powerful. I mean, nobody expected anything less but it was still great fun to see it go through the game like a knife through butter
It was like a knife through some still cold butter. It's no Mewtwo or Alolan Ninetales/Raichu but still decent. It fits right in with the other Emerald legendaries!
Slaking-level extinction event 🚨 Hope to see Regigigas at some point in the future. It'll definitely be interesting to see how the two compare since they're fairly similar on the surface.
Also, that backsprite is really nice!!
Thanks! I worked a lot on this one. Hammer Arm specifically was something I went mad trying to get to work right. That just means we'll get to psycho boost in the future. Regigigas will be at some point but I guess you'll have to finish the video because I don't want to get spoilery, but I think they'll be similar.
Real one. Loved the back sprite, but the injured front sprite is even better.
Eyes wide open!
Man I'm loving the music on these videos more and more, starting off with the Dudley theme has got me hyped af
Thanks! I try to put a little extra into my music library the past few weeks from length, levels, etc.
Slaking without Truant. May God help us all.
I think it's slightly overrated after spending time with it but a cool concept.
@@GymLeaderMatt1987now do regigigas with no slow start
It's the little time savings that give you first place in a race.
Going for the repeat, haha.
Another "Mighty Joe" I didn't get a chance to appreciate this boss pokemon until I watch a vid that shows him rivaling classic Wario, you know when he called death a goomba and bitch slapped em
Slaking without Truant is like a highway without traffic laws: pure, unadulterated hell.
Ha, still about on par with other legendaries outside of Mewtwo. It was great but not THAT good.
@@GymLeaderMatt1987 Given that Slaking isn't a legendary, and this is a solo challenge with a specific ruleset, I think my point still stands.
Alolan Ninetales and Raichu must have erupted a few volcanos and killed millions on the highway haha.
21:49 TOMBSTONER, BROTHER
The lazy Muppet gets his act together and beats face, that's what. Cool back sprite. :D
I've played Gen 3 the least, but I like the concept of Slaking being incredibly strong, only nerfed by skipping every other turn. That Saffron speed skip was also cool to learn, I would've never considered that proc of getting the city as a Fly spot. With the bronze medal for cross-gen runs, I'd say this dad bod sloth has been proven to be a #realone.
It was pretty good. That Mewtwo bar is set pretty high! There's also a ton of little things like that I try to pick over in every video. They are things that most people don't think about but overworld movement, item management, and being efficient with fly add up to mean almost as much as the route itself.
Just popping in to claim my "real one" badge for this video.
Fun run, man!
Appreciate that, brother.
If only Slaking had Tombstoner BROTHER
Brother
Yea, don't forget the brother. That's half the damage.
@@GymLeaderMatt1987 Fixed it chief
Goodra might be able to beat Mewtwo. Nearly the same special, good mixed stats, can brute force a lot of fights quickly with Outrage. It's a multi turn move, meaning you have less to click through and because it's neutral on almost everything, you skip the "It's super effective!" text box. White Kyurem has an even higher special, fantastic bulk and starts with Dragon Rage, meaning it could possibly also brute force a lot of fights. 120 Base Attack and access to Slash also lets it shred through the psychic types in the midgame.
I've had my eyes on Outrage Goodra for a while now actually! After the Haxorus run it's something I have written down but just haven't had a chance to get to it, mainly because back then cross gen runs were plummeting in views and I didn't want to use my free time just to feel bad lol.
so if you went for one more levvel instead, would the hammer arm/brock situation change?
I definitely understand your reasoning on that segment, but maybe I'm just a reckless individual. I'd have brute forced the scenario.
It just came from several tests. I tried early and I guess technically you could just reset the whole run over and over until it gets passed but it's a HIGH chance to fail. I'd like to at least be able to consistently get a battle started but lots of great Pokemon gotta pick up optionals early.
@@GymLeaderMatt1987ahh! okay! there's no real substitute for just trying things out. the extra speed so you get in before the potential bide on turn 1 against onyxx didn't help?
It was a speed tie, that’s why I went for the less risky punishment opening and it worked out. Hammer Arm can’t one shot and I got a crit to take him down there but you have to soften it up a little. The extra levels also push you to damage rounding to get to mega punch a little faster.
I tested alot and did 4 full runs on top of that. This was the only feasible way to get sub 2 hours that I saw.
@@GymLeaderMatt1987youtube didn't notify me of the response @_@ I follow what you mean about that, yeahh.
Skips, flopping on every pokemon in the SS Ann,
sinking it and swimming with red standing on his back while Sruge has war flash backs
causing him to throw the badge blocking the walkway with a sudowoodo
running to lock his gym, was an amazing thought that must be a video on UA-cam
comment section if you make it happen I got you on your comment section, bet
Perfect!
Reel Wan 😂 woot 🎉 i love these videos, they help me through my working days, so i can wonder and think about pokemon out of their respective gens and which ones really mess everything up 😂
There’s about a thousand to wonder about these days lol.
That Slaking back sprite looks great
Thanks, brother.
Damn bro I got my sodie pop and I’m ready to enjoy the vid👀
Perfect. That's the best combination.
These are the questions I want asked and answered! KEEP IT UP!
We are always asking the important stuff on the channel.
When i was a kid, i used to pronounce Slaking "Slake-King"
There’s a reason I extensively look through the anime for pronunciation these days. People are sticklers about it lol. See the original Kyogre video lol.
Awesome how you can modify the game and incorporate some modern moves & later gen pokemon! Breaks up the monotony in an otherwise limited game, looking forward to future content!
Nice. I got a ton of made ROMs. I used to do them on another program in 2021 but it was stale and not customizable so I took matters into my own hands.
I’ve been waiting my whole life for this run.
Ha, I'll take the hyperbole.
I love the name haha that back sprite really does look like him. Nice reference
I'm just glad people watch regular show. Such a good one!
Slacking dont be lacking lmao. Sorry brother, I am abroad and usually watch your videos on tv so no chance to comment. Still here though!!!
All good! Videos are forever!
On my 3rd watch through, and I always chuckle when you essentially say "there's no prize for beating Surge, aside from the really useful prize" lmao
Lmao, glad you caught that. No one else said anything about it!
Bro Slaking is my favorite Pokémon. I really wish he would get an alternate ability that isn't truant
It’ll never happen. That’s the gimmick of the Pokémon! Great stats but can’t really fully use them.
Yo the music you picked for this absolutely slapped!!! I also love the art for the thumbnail!
Thanks! I put in a little extra work on my music library in terms of levels/length and worked on the transitioning!
Rainbow metal pidgeon came in clutch. ❤
I was glad he reached out! I will say I reached out again a few weeks ago and he just ignored me lmao. You win some, you lose some.
#realone. I do have a slaking story. Might be boring for you but I have a save file for black and white and I have a team with slaking and a pokemon that can suppress his ability. I don't remember if it even worked that well but I remember thinking slakings stats were nuts. Cool run! Love the content thanks GLM!
The forever search to make it not suck lol.
Tombstoner brother. I've done this run in ruby and changed the nature and slaking was a beast.
It's great! Not the best but pretty good.
Real one, because Slaking is unreal! I wonder how much time Slash and Play Rough from the BSDP learnset could shave off to make the early game even more dominant.
Man, I didn't really look at BDSP because it's BDSP but it does have slash. I might have to do a stream sometime in the future. I don't think it would push it to the very top but at least maybe to 2.
i'm watching this one first, that's cool
Nice.
Good stuff psuedo legendary beatdown
Slaking does alright!
You got Hammer Arm working right!
Hm... that might put things like Leaf Storm, Overheat, Draco Meteor, Psycho Boost, and Fleur Cannon on the table for cross-gen examination.
Oh yea. It puts me in a position to do whatever move at this point. It might take a while to get to something but my original thoughts were with Slaking and I held off to get it right but Psycho Boost is looking pretty good!
@@GymLeaderMatt1987 I'm looking at pokemon that naturally learns these moves right now, lol.
So far, Leaf Storm users have some potential. Decidueye in particular (using its Gen 7-8 learnset) stands out because it starts with this move, has a respectable Attack _and_ Special Attack stat, and a secondary Ghost typing to abuse its physical STAB with. (Not to mention Swords Dance by TM...)
Also, Sceptile could be an interesting case too, using its OR/AS or Gen 7 learnset, and also has the added benefit of having an over-20% chance of straight up ignoring those statdrops. Both of these pokemon also come with Medium-Slow growth rate, for what its worth.
The problem I see is, bare minimum, two-fold. Leaf Storm has a 90% accuracy, and you and I both know if it isn't 100%, it's 55%. The second problem I can see is Leaf Storm lowers your *_combined_* special stat. It won't come to play against Brock or Misty, but Lorelei might be a problem if you're relying on Leaf Storm.
Yea it’s tough to play around any of main stat lowering moves. I think something that lowers defenses would be the strongest. I’m not sure any major special or attack dropping moves will make it to the end game but it’s impossible to tell unless I’m testing.
@@GymLeaderMatt1987 Yeah, to me, attack/special-dropping moves only have value if the pokemon has solid mixed attacking stats. The two pokemon I singled out has decently solid offensive stats on both fronts, so they can handle a leaf storm demerit, but like I noted, their defenses will suffer. It's a double-edged sword and likely might end up being replaced once either pokemon learn Swords Dance or some boosting move, but as you said, can't really tell unless its put into practice.
As in the words of the 90s pop rock band Fastball, “In my enteral summer Slaking!”
That Slaking back sprite wandered in from Sesame Street. X3
That was part of the idea!
It would be a great Pokemon and Regi GIGAS WOULD actually be playable the OTHER 3 Regi's would be impossible since in Gen 1 those 3 would I believe ONLY start with Explosion and nothing else.
Nah, they got some different learnsets in other generations. Regigigas would be good but about the same I feel.
I wasn't sure since in their original games Regi Rock/ice start at lv 30 but only started with Explode and nothing else.
Yea they aren’t possible in gen 3 but viable in other gens.
Babe, come quick - new GLM just dropped
Lmao, best comment.
@@GymLeaderMatt1987 shhhh GLM is on
Finally a game where Slaking isn't worse than Vigoroth.
I like Vigoroth a good bit.
Gym leader transitions looking goooddd
Appreciate that! Tried to make them in line with my tier cards.
That champion transition synced up to the music was *chef’s kiss* perfect
Very happy someone noticed that lol.
The realest one is the first one
Midnight Spectrum Club is the real one!
I do like how he changed blastoise's sprite.
The OG one just has him standing beefy lookin down at you like yo mama's boutta beat yo ass.
Ha, it's just green version sprites but I haven't watched the video in a while but I generally just use red/blue/green sprites.
I prefer Icebeam over blizzard. simply because i'd rather have the 100% accuracy with good damage, rather than more power and less accuracy.
It's a good move but I think it's a little too cautious and safe to say there's a huge difference between 90% accuracy and 99.6~ accuracy. There's numbers to back up why but things like the Golbat range just add up to save you a little time. I guess it's just personal preference to if an extra 25 base power is worth only hitting 9 out of 10 times but Blizzard is probably the best damaging move in gen 1. There's a reason it was nerfed in gen 2!
Real one, I was so worried that the time will be over 2 hours, but 1hr 58mins, thats good enough.
Mewtwo is just too dominating and expected Slaking will not beat the Mewtwo time
That's why I did 4 runs. I couldn't get this one below 2 hours the first 3 times but was happy with this one. I'm convinced outside of the blizzard mishap this is about as fast as it gets.
Slaking is one of my faves! Only a real one like you could do it so much justice
It was pretty good! I think it starting with a stronger normal move would be the only thing to push it to the top.
Love the vid and the backsprite
Thanks, brother, appreciate that.
real one! this one was super fun. LOVE the back sprite
Thanks! Unfortunately increasing the back sprite size has made me have to think different about the back sprites but it was pretty good.
Imagine Slaking with SD. That would be abuse of the E4.
It doesn’t need it. I mean it no healed/no elixir’d it as is. The top runs don’t use badge boosting moves in vanilla. They just rely on stats.
Don't even need it. With 95 Special there's nothing it can't break through
We need Matt vs Mah Dry Bread vs Jrose vs Scott in a speedrun race! Their battle would be legendary!
Scott has some race videos on his channel. I finished 1st in the last one, 2nd in the previous but I’d dumb myself down or do any stipulations to get in a Jrose video lol.
Blastoise saw thunderbolt and all the fight he had left his soul...all the real ones pay respect to Blastoise for taking a thunderbolt to the dome 🙏
Ha, as if it had a choice. I could tell it wanted to hit a freeze proc.
When slaking doesn't have truant, every problem just looks like a nail while you hold your hammer
I redid it on stream last Sunday for a big improvement!
Always happy to be a real one, Matt. Slaking was righteously good.
It's up there but a little short of the best!
I mean maybe some section might be a little slow going but once his attack is high enough I imagine he’ll just steam roll the opposition.
Nostradamus level prediction there, haha.
It was cooling seeing you destory the E4 like that BROTHER. Great work.
Thanks! This one felt about as optimized as it gets.
11:05
honestly it looks like the Abominable Snowman or Bigfoot to me
still very fitting for this mon
Abomasnow! Lol.
Watched this after watching the new episode of Bleach. Nearly an hour of perfection. 👌
Sounds like a good hour!
Nice video!
Appreciate it, brother.
I'm not surprised that Slaking didn't pass Mewtwo, but despite being behind Mewtwo it still did as well as I expected it too. So excellent job Slaking and real one.
I think Regigigas will be about the same, tbh. Maybe slightly better.
Oh! I'm really looking forward to that!@@GymLeaderMatt1987
That one will be much later. Focusing on wrapping up September and then Shedinja.
Jolly good show!
I can hear the voice now lol.
Pleased to see that Alolan ninetails beat Mewtwo -- for some reason I'm gravitating towards Vulpix and Ninetails being my favorite pokemon (yeah, the bog standard versions aren't super good, but I like an underdog story, and LOVE the astetics of thos guys). Though Alolan Ninetails was to be expected in the end due to an extremely good typing plus excellent initial movelist and overall excellent learn set.
right now looks the only only one who did (baring Slow King doing super well -- which, right now, after Brock, seems like a REAL possibility)
Yea it’s hard to get over the Mewtwo bar. It’s slow leveling group holds it back but for a vanilla run, hardly anything past, future, or present can get can get close.
can u do venomoth for red, crystal, emerald, and the other games if possible :o
Yea, I'll do 47 Venomoth playthroughs next week.
This will be rad im excited
It was pretty cool!
MY FAVORITE POKÉMON
What's #2? Weedle?
@@GymLeaderMatt1987 Farfetched and then combee.
Weedle is like the combee of gen 1 :)
Real one!
I loved the muppet back sprite. Slaking did about as well as I imagined without Truant holding it back.
Below the Mewtwo bar, but still alright.
Nice video! Do you have it set up so the borders on the video read the RAM and update the current stat buffs etc.? Or that's too complicated and you just add it in manually?
No way I’d recommend anyone do it manually lol. It just reads the RAM. There’s some code and mathing involved like showing the badge boosts like after Brock when I’m in the overworld or with the effective power taking into account type effectiveness/stab.
Oh he's going to bonk some guys
Bonk and scratch!
😂Bruh, Skips 🤣 I'm glad I waited to watch this, brilliant
I redid it on stream a little bit ago with some improvements. It was much better there. You might like that!
Nice Regular Show reference 🙌
Not a great show, just pretty regular.
All hail the SlacKING!!!
I'll get my coat...
Ha, that's the whole point of the name in the first place.
@@GymLeaderMatt1987 yeah, it was great to see him un-hindered by that awful ability.
back sprite was incredible too, nice work my dude!
Shedinja next in about a month. From great to 1 hp lol.
@@GymLeaderMatt1987 ooh, reversing the theme, that is interesting and i can not wait to see it!
Love your videos GLM ❤. So glad you made this 👍
Glad you watched it!
Every time I remember Slaking in Generation I I think about an old Smogon article about bad Pokemon in Gen I, and how good Slaking would be competitively. This always fakes me out into thinking it learns Slash outside of Egg moves XD. Sadly Slash is Egg Move only but one of these days I want to do that run myself, just to see the sheer raw power that Slaking's Slash would have to its back. This was still a super good run though.
I know a lot of people want to see Regigigas in all of its glory, but you know what I want to see? I want to see the true titan among the golems. I want to see the Chansey rule stretched to its absolute limit. I want to see that 200 Special with Amnesia and BoltBeam. Will 50 base Speed hold it in check? Who knows, but I really want to see Regice tear through this game.
As always, real one.
Hmm, it learns both of those? Goodra is also a good candidate. Umbreon too but I did a Sanqui knock off version and it wasn’t great but I got to do the Crystal version one soon.
@@GymLeaderMatt1987 Yeah Regice gets Amnesia and Ice Beam via level-up and Thunderbolt via TM, with Ice Beam being at Level 24 and Amnesia at Level 36.
36 is a little late but it could be solid. It might be a while before I get to it though. I try to do the cross gen runs more sparingly since the summer and not ‘force’ myself to do much since it’s just a hobby and burnout is a bitch.
That's a damn nice back sprite, btw. Some of your best work
I think so too. Hopefully I haven’t peaked lol.
Love the Regular Show reference
Love that you noticed, haha.
@@GymLeaderMatt1987 I'm a huge huge regular show fan so of course the minute I see a big strong gorilla with Skips' name I immediately assume the best 😊
I tried to get the likeness in the thumbnail!
Love the back sprite GLM
Thanks! I thought it was goofy enough to work.
I love that you named him Skips! 😂 love your channel!
Top tier nickname that’s even better because people understand the reference!
I thought of Face Mcshooty when you brought up the thunderbolt to the dome
Not intended but a good reference!
Been waiting for this 😁
Hope it was worth the wait!
Tombstoner brother!!
Well that's what slaking is gonna be dropping this run
Appreciate that!
Thanks for another great video man! It was a Real One!
Appreciate that, brother.
Realest of the Rea! You know!
I would really like to see staraptor in this run with brave Bird and close combat
You might see a psycho boost before that.
Who's your favourite Gen1 Gym leader?
I'm not sure I have a favorite but hardest? Brock for sure.
this is the weirdest regular show episode I've ever seen
Nah, normal Regular Show is much weirder lol.
Real one as always
Appreciate that, brother.
Nice run. Kinda miss that jazz outro though haha
Man, I think that things been gone for the better part of a year. I'm trying to be concise, lessen the workload, and just make a better overall video. Analytics said it had to go!
Slaking proof gamefreak has ptsd towards snorlax Tauros and Chanseys oringal power
Regigigas too.
@@GymLeaderMatt1987 nah they just hate regigigas
They hate their fans lol. Bring back 2d.
Slaking trades Truant for gen1 Amnesia
Unified special, a blessing and a curse.
Back when I played competitive I had a Skill Swap team focused on Baton Pass Boosting and getting rid of Truant so Slaking could tear through my opponent. You have recreated that today. 😊 Also my Slaking for that team was also named Skips so you are a legend my friend.
Nice. It’s always fun to look for a way to make it work.
weird, i always thought slaking would be in the medium slow level up group, like all the other 3 stage evolutions like the starters and trade evolutions, imagine how good it would be if it was
Why would it be in the same leveling group as starters and trade Pokémon when it’s none of those lol.
R E A L O N E
I had a busy week, but have been looking forward to watching since you dropped the video and finally got the chance today. Very cool to see self-debuffing moves, and a solid run overall!
Oh yea, it’s exciting for the future. I’m trying out some wacky things getting ready for the Shedinja run.
Hell of a great vid as always, from a real one. The back sprite for it had me laughing quite a few times. He was just looking back at us the whole run
I loved the sprite lol.
Slaking proving it's a real1 in this run. I got so excited when I saw the upload and I'm glad slaking lived up to my expectations. I love your content and these cross gen runs are especially fun to watch.
Thanks, man. I appreciate that!
Great video
Thanks!
this thing might actually compete with mewtwo
Better be focused on Ninetales and Raichu these days. I redid this one on stream for better results though.
Just found the channel love the accent brother
Thanks! Hope you enjoy!
Great idea for a back port. I imagine he's about to obliterare the game.
He does alright!
Catching the playback with a sodi pop
Perfect.
Dude what was the name of the first song?
Dudley's theme from Street Fighter!
I always refer to it as its disability
It makes a lot of sense lol.
Sodie pops up!!