Kevin Leach - The Surge Can Save Ukraine But There is Little Time Left for Sullivan to Get it Done
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- Опубліковано 7 лют 2025
- Kevin Leach is the main director for Sabre Training Advisory Group, a professional military training non-profit. Their aim is to give Ukrainian defenders the skills to come home alive. Kevin is a Canadian Armed Forces veteran, with a long history of working in Ukraine and in military affairs. He served as a sergeant from 2008-2018, specialising in armoured reconnaissance. He leads a weekly segment on the Mriya Report called “Come Home Alive” covering the Key Elements of Training for the Ukrainian army.
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I'm an old British army veteran. Very interesting and thought provoking discussion. My respect to Kevin Leach and what he's doing. Freedom for Ukraine.
Respect for your service sir. And for your interest in Ukraine.
Great guest! Knowledgeable, articulate, informed, experienced, committed to Ukraine, and exudes genuineness. Thanks Jonathan. I thoroughly enjoyed and at last feel like I can understand what's meant by "Soviet Mentality" amongst many senior level officers in the Ukrainian Armed Forces. Please welcome back this guest soon.
Slava Ukraine 🇺🇦 Heroyam Slava!
Love from Ohio, USA
Brilliant analysis
As a Ukrainian he was very precise in everything he said
Great interview! Thank you so much! His work and the Ukrainian people are very admirable. ❤️🇺🇦
This was one of the most inspiring conversation with a lot of informative information.
Great person this Kevin, he has got his believes and it's refreshing to hear news from the close-to-front side.
Thanks for the many good Analysis
From France 🇫🇷
#HeroyamSlava 🇺🇦🙏👊
Vive la France et le monde libre… SLAVA UKRAINE
Thank you gentlemen for this amazing interview.
My gratitude to fellow Canadian, Kevin. Great discussion. Thank you.
I'd follow this Canadian Sargent! He's my kind of leader.
Kevin's warm, frank and earnest commentary is engagingly affirmative
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Training training and more training👍👍👍
That WILL make a difference..game changing..less casualties, more/better resaults, higher moral, more confident etc etc
I loved this interview. You have had some great guests and I am looking forward to the next one. Slava Ukraini! ❤
Great interview, Kevin's moral compess services him well, and generates enthusiasum to spread it around.
one of the most impressive interviews of the many very good ones you have provided, Johnathan!!
Agree.
I’m laughing - or smirking. I came up in Silicon Valley. My first day on the job the Vice President of Engineering bought me a cup of coffee and welcomed me with this commentary: “I want you to know in your solar plexus the I Will fire you if you don’t make judgement errors. Oh, and if you consistently make too many I’ll fire you. Got that? I want people to think, absorb the fundamentals, then risk make systemic improvements
Thanks guys. It’s time to ramp up!
9:45 General Drapaty is one of the best Ukrainian commanders who became known since 2014 when being just a captain he saved his battalion from an inevitable death or captivity in the full encirclement at Izvarine, from where he fought the way through the forty kilometers deep Muscovite positions and lost just one soldier. He successfully repelled the recent Muscovite offensive at Xarkovъ, so there is a cautious optimism for now.
Thank you for what you are both doing and for sharing your experience and knowledge! Love and truth will win.
Brilliant post and insight...huge respect for Kevin and his work.
Thank you Jonathan, for inviting Kevin Leach back. Thank you, Kevin Leach, for all that you do, and congratulations! Wonderful news and I wish you continued success.
🇺🇦 Перемоги та миру всім українцям! 🇺🇦
Amazingly real and insightful interview. Thank you!
Thank you, Jonathan and Kevin.
Thank you for your coverage, insights and wonderful guests
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Kevin is a good dude and knew what needed to happen for a long time. I recommend anyone supporting programs support his org.
What a great discussion Jonathan. Kudos to my fellow Canadian. I am very proud of him and his work. It seems that $12,000 for a simulator is not a lot of money and perhaps could be crowdfunded in Canada especially since we have such a large ex-patriot and Ukrainian Canadian community. If it were my strength, I would do it but sadly, am not informed enough to do so. In the meantime, will donate what I can afford and would ask all other readers to do so as well. Slava Ukraini!
brilliant point! Even we yanks know that the unusually large Ukr diaspora in Canada, going waaay back, is a potential boon to Ukr visavis business, charity and fighting cooperation. And, yes, ppl would be amazed when studying war history that single units being deeply motivated AND skilled can then influence nearby units etc, and often create the aggression level needed (as Leach alluded to being the case when Ukr units are fit enough and can actually manouvre enough with enough mass) to make breakthroughs in wars of attrition like this. Literally, getting one fine training org into good shape itself can create chain reaction positive feedback loops.
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Force multiplier.
Thanks!
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Ukrainians are awesome people, conservative christians who takes their freedom very very serious..they are warm and welcoming people, family is important, they are smart, want to learn, love their country and very proud..traditional hard working people, brave, bold and determed.but they need our help in this horrible war of agression that Russians started against them, for nothing, totaly unprovoked..its sickening tbh how they could do this.stay strong Ukraine!.Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇸🇪👍
You just described 95% of humanity, not just Ukrainians. The C.I.A started this whole thing. Russia just responded with a punch in the face instead of diplomatic BS. Send Ukraine all your money and everything you own if you believe in the cause so much. I guarantee you wouldn't house a Ukranian family or go and fight for their country. SLAVA ZUCCHINI.🍆
Shame they have been manipulated by nato terrorists in to this proxy war
Not all Ukrainians are Christians. See the President, FFS.
That's the very exact cliche that Russia sells, this "Christian traditional values thing". If you don't fall for that silly cliche when it comes to Russia, don't do it when it comes to Ukraine.
Great interview… SLAVA UKRAINE…
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Thanks, guys. A particularly engrossing podcast. I'll not be able to sleep tonight mulling the implications of what was discussed. However, it's always great to listen to someone who has genuinely strongly held beliefs, and rationally makes out the arguments for them. It would be great to see Kevin on the Jake Broe channel, as he is of the same ilk and persuasion but with somewhat differing views.
Mulling is not useful. Try a bit of Vlad Vexler to put your mind at ease. Do not fall for Muscovia propaganda and turn your anger to protecting your institutions. Learn more on the mechanisms of propaganda, it helps, a lot! Be well! 💛💙
I was thinking the exact same thing as you! Kevin and Jake Broe need to get together for online live chat! Maybe add Operator Starsky and Artur Rehi to fully round it out? What do you think? 👍
@@mnoot7209 Thanks for your reply. Probably like you, I watch A LOT of Podcasts about the war in Ukraine, including Artur and Starsky. Personally, however, I prefer one on one interviews. That's just me, though. Thanks again. Slava Ukraini.
Giving Ukraine everything it needs to win this war and Ukrainian integration into the EU and NATO is the west’s best self defense.Training and equipping new brigades is vital therefore respect to Kevin Leach.
Let me suggest that Kevin takes his training insights into the US educational system. As a retired Master Teacherh, I can assure you that his pedagogical approach to teaching would make a profound difference
I fully agree; the application to the classroom is invaluable.
That's an interesting idea, however, Americans have never appreciated Canadians' opinions unless they are specifically asked for. Looks like the focus since the election is all the money that's being made from the private prison and temporary detention industrial complex, and then filling them with Latinos after Jan.20th.
Privatize the profits, socialize the costs.
It may have been possible to avoid the debacles in Afghanistan and Iraq if it wasn't for cultural ignorance/ disregard, and if the hubris wasn't so thick. Those two costly, failed adventures, textbook instances of "mission creep", and Libya (oops!), are partly why the world is so effing effed up today.
But it's hard not to see how all that wasn't the goal, in part, until at least the recent unraveling of the American built world order began to accelerate (2008? 2014?).
Now we see blowback on an unprecedented scale.
" How did our oil get under their sand ?"
Cheney and W.Bush, and others have the answers.
Excellent interview!
I think refusing to cooperate with an authoritarian leader is a sign of intelligence. You do something because you understand WHY it should be done.
Critical thinking, certainly
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....with integrity!!!😊❤
Indeed. Intelligence is not a soviet leading trait, they are culturally trained to be authoritarians. Canadian way is human driven, with a few exceptions, usually useless over-paid officers. A sound strategy must be understood by all subordinates, all ranks should understand and agree the procedures, doctrine and ROE. Money and power is of no importance, only life has importance.
YES, bravo! This WAS one of the most considered and fascinating convo's! Love mr Leach! WOw! he's got the right stuff and such nuanced sharp insights into how the structure & zeitgeist of training makes all the difference! He'd no doubt be extremely useful to the Ukr defense dept in learning about how motivation, and how training works in wars like this one. For us, it might also be useful to have him in a discussion w/ another one or two ppl in similar sphere.
It’s like a craftsman; it’s not the tools necessarily it’s how they are used.
Brilliant
Great job!❤
Where do I sign up?
God Bless and Go Ukraine!
This was one of your best interviews... truly inspiring, but also enraging. In all the criticism of Jake Sullivan I've heard, Leach's was the most compelling. It'll be good riddance in January.
What a smart, educated and balanced person. I am very impressed, thank you for this educative video.
Slava Ukraina
Used the link in description and donated.
This was a great episode.
As an educator, I really appreciate Kevin's explanation of the different approaches to training. This is such an interesting and relevant discussion. Thank you.
Great guess and i believe he’s a follow Canadian 🇨🇦👍
Excellent podcast! Very informative and interesting. I liked it very much. Thank you!
Inspiring to hear this.
1:34:50 Correction: The PRC didn't conduct a nuclear weapons test until 1964. The Korean Armistice Agreement was signed in 1953. Even the Soviet Union was still in the early testing stage for their program, with a half dozen tests and few practical devices at that point. The War was not frozen due to avoiding conflict with a nuclear power. On the contrary, it was only after the conflict was frozen that the nuclear arms race entered the mass production phase.
The more likely incentive to end the war was insufficient conventional arms provided with insufficient urgency, resulting in a drawn out war with significant casualties on both sides and war exhaustion on the part of allies.This is the situation that Ukraine is in danger of replicating.
Yeah its a DISGRACE..Nato have like 30.000 IFVs, 20.000 tanks etc etc etc..and we helped them with like 120 tanks..mind boggling, im ashamed 😳😳
Muscovia "supplied" a great many more than NATO ever did!
yes! I've been wondering all along if we western nations have been not giving them to Ukr bcuz of possible secret intell telling us thte Clink nations were preparing rapidly for war (china appears to be of course and is increasingly beligerant in the past three years during Ukr war which they also help Ru with), and that our own production capabilites were so low that we needed to ramp up before giving away our equipment. We shall see.
@@18_rabbit anihC is eyeing the Ukrainian resources. Power and influence is all they crave; life has no importance for these dictators.
Why would anyone support those Nazis?
Jonathan, could you interview Sen. Victoria Spartz or Eugene Vindman? I think they could give an enlightening glimpse into present US politics regarding Ukraine-US situation.
Greatchannel
This is infuriating to hear that this hold up is constantly and still costing my friends of their lives. As an army veteran, I understand that it’s a miracle anything really gets done in the United States of military. It’s always last minute victory because of the individual effort of the noncommission officers and lower ranks that makes things happen. I’ve also worked for these defense contractors. The indecision is unbearable. I’ve seen the ocean of our equipment just being maintain moved from place to place in working order just waiting for the year that it will be decommissioned costing the taxpayers even more money. Get it out of here! ASAP!
🇸🇪👍🏻 AGREE!!!!!
Generally you can only get this wonderful method of working, innovation, creativity, original thinking and recognition of it, acceptance and implementation in democracies. Thats why the west and a few other places are the best.
Outstanding conversation. Now if Washington will listen to sound advice!
"Has he died and forgot to tell me!!"....😂 ...OMG that is so typical....
Kaja Kallas is a former prime minister of Estonia. She has a significant role in EU security policy and foreign affairs. Not bad for a consolation prize for being passed up for a role in NATO.
The dancing prime minister is Sanna Marin. Former prime minister of Finland. She is a strategic adviser in Tony Blair Institute.
"Keep your eyes on the ball" and remain strong. Together to victory!
...the fact that Ms Marin now works for Tony Blair, pretty much says it all
There needs to be a FOI on each countries true costs to support Ukraine...
Interesting how wars are also a melting pot of cultures. Russia does represent the old imperial mindset, and Ukraine is getting more NATO /Western aligned every day. Thus, Russia is passe and Ukraine is current, not just in warfare but in its entire culture. In this way, it has already won the war.
I couldn't agree more. Stay strong.
Unfortunately, Ukraine hasn't won anything. It is currently being propped up by the western countries, of which we are seeing a sort of 'buyers remorse' amongst them, as they re focus on their own economies. The only way to save Ukraine is not by war (they've tried that for 3 years and haven't gained anything), but by some kind of negotiated settlement.
@RodrickLionheart So it seems. But NATO is under threat by Trumps presidency and may escalate before Jan.20 Or may have run out of time. Let's see.
great
Peace must include, for the benefit not of just Ukraine but for the whole world and even future generations:
1 nuclear security
2 energy security
3 food security
4 no more invasions
5 territorial sovereignity
6 withdrawl of foreign forces
7 prosecution of criminals
8 restoration of the environment
9 return of the children
10 a return to international co-operation..
the Peace Dividend ...is PROSPERITY...
cost of missiles fired into Ukraine would have paid for every Russian home to be plumbed into natural gas, the cheapest form of ENERGY in the world @ 6 US cents kWh which makes saunas and swimming pools available and affordable to all Russians even in the Winter...Russians could be as rich as the Gulf Arabs if it was not for Putin and Belousov's decision to invade their neighbour.
I pity the fools that fight for these evil men. War veterans returning to Russia will suffer even when or if they ever get home.
And accession to NATO. No other so called "security assurances" will do.
It sounds like a much better version of what once was Erik Prince’s group, which I don’t know much about.
I have some ultra pacifist, clueless and naive friends. Lovely people but down a blind alley with this .
Sent Kevin's org a donation (tax deductible if you're Canadian, so come on Canucks!) that will pay better dividends than simply contributing towards a kamikaze drone. I urge you to support medical and tactical training in Ukraine - the multiplier effect at work here will save more lives than we can imagine. Kevin, you"re the kind of person the world needs more of. Thank you for your selfless service.
Mistakes are being human..part of life.
Many thanks for the financial figures on how much was promised and yet how little has been delivered to a country that has been fighting for democratic values. This has been lost in most of the media.
...and what democratic values are those?
Excellent choice of guest, Jonathan! Ukraine should listen to what was just said. I think Syrskyi is more a political person than a "proper" military strategist and leader; from a "westerner" point of view. Syrskyi, being the political person that he is, makes many political mistakes... making him, in my view, a poor choice for the position he occupies, pun intended. I salute the new nominations, all three of them, especially Mikhailo Drapatiy.
You are just repeating old slurs. Syrski is not 'political' he is a 4 star General, the commander-in-chief of the Armed Forces. His track record speaks for itself, he was in charge of the successful Karkhiv counter offensive of Autumn of 2022, and more recently the highly successful Kursk incursion.
@@artmcteagle ... protecting Sodol, blocking soldiers voices... is exactly what is being discussed in this video. Blocking Sternenko, is playing the soviet hand over reality of the fact that a partisan menacing his political aspirations is not proper strategy. Old soviet school people are corrupt, when they refuse to understand where the enemy is and prefer to enforce authoritarian decisions. Power tripping is not leading.
The red line accured when Russia invaded Ukraine
So called Russia's red lines are actually brown stripes.
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Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦💪
Glory to the Armed Forces of Ukraine .. 🇺🇦
God Bless 🙏🙏🙏 Ukraine with Victory
Sanna Marin former PM of Finland demoted highly likely because of FSB actions. She with my PM Magdalena Andersson of Sweden took the decision to application to NATO 2022.
50 day’s training!? My god I didn’t realize things were that bad.
1:44:07 the previous Finnish PM was Sanna Marin. 🇫🇮mreoww 😍🤭
She's a fighter and a fierce politician I respect, and yes, a sight for sore eyes!
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Love your content, but after 8 hrs work, cooking for the family, 4 hrs catching up on Ukraine news channels and feeds, a nearly 2 hr youtube is just too long,I might watch at the weekend, but please consider editing.
All this guys training, and yet he never learned how to lie without smiling.
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"Atlas Shrugged" is like a participation trophy for libertarianism - it's a simplistic, poorly written manifesto that's only revered by those who haven't actually read any real philosophy. Ayn Rand's magnum opus is about as nuanced as a kindergartener's drawing of a train - it's all bold lines, primary colors, and a complete disregard for complexity or subtlety.
I DONT KNOW ABT UKRAINE BUT IN 1972 IN GREECE I MISSED THE BUS IN A SMALL TOWN AND WHEN INQUIRING ABT THE NEXT BUS, I WAS REGULARLY TOLD, "NO, THAT CANNOT BE DONE", BUT IN FACT IT WAS THE JOB OF THE NEXT GUY OVER BUT THEY COULD NOT INFRINGE ON THE OTHER'S DUTY, WHEREAS IN THE USA WE WOULD SAY, "NO, I CANNOT DO THAT BUT JOE CAN".
Certainly,I resent that you guys see Trump for only his value in a war scene. To hell with us who have to live with his primitive understanding of and lack of respect for our women, our people and our constitution.
I'm sure you are talking about Biden. People and women have been disrespected for the last 4 years, that is why they lost.
Did I just converge into an alternate universe where Donald is a person who represents and is in support of democratic government and democratic values, and uphold morality and decency? What the fuck?
There might be a strategy in negotiation to appear to be willing to concede to some of Trump's Peace deal, but have negotiations fail in a fashion that makes Russia appear to be unreasonable and not accepting Trump's plan. Trump might get insulted and listen more to pro-Ukraine voices, and decide he doesn't need Russia's support anymore. This would be encouraged more if more Republicans shifted to supporting Ukraine. Ukrainians and their neighbours will be less inclined to give in to Russian Chauvenistic expansionism.
People in power in Ukraine majorly are not Ukrainians ethnically or politically
In 48 days the apocalypse starts
Tried to listen for over 20 minutes, but you did not mention what the %$#@ the "surge" is. Sorry.
The best thing in 2025 for me will be to never hear Jake Sullivans name ever again. I have a hate for a person I've never met, and it's pretty bad. May karma visit him one day.
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Trump doesn't have the stones to actually oppose people that he admires. In fact, his goal is to subdivide the planet, if necessary, by relinquishing other people's property and freedom. He is a seeker of leverageable backdoors. In the form of a movie, it can be interesting and masquerade as heroic. In real life, it's something very different.
I agree with everything except his trust in Trump. If we are lucky, Trump may prove to act in the way is best suited to Ukraine’s need. But his adoration for Putin and other tyrants doesn’t bode well.
Content of the subject matter is good.
I do however have a very real issue with the messenger and speakers that are selected to present the material.
I truly cannot believe that you or your organization would offer and provide airtime to some of these people.
At the very least they could have cue cards or a written guideline to work through the interview. I could barely make out the message through all of the 'uh's' , 'um's' and other verbal filler noises while your guests collect their trains of thought. It TRULY IS TIRING / TAXING.
Now I'm not asking for Doctor Larry Arnn, Victor Davis Hanson or a reincarnation of the Late Great Rush Hudson Limbaugh - but c'mon people get your sh!t together before subjecting your audience to untested speakers already PUHLEASE!
There is no surge. What are you guys even talking about.
Jesus how can you talk for so long and basically say nothing?
Ukraine has already lost the war you clowns!
The most famous entity in the FSB : the Clown !
Hitler said the same for UK after fall of France. But at the end...who got fucked?
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Little time left? But I thought Russia was about to collapse? I thought you said Ukraine was winning? What happened to the Ukrainian victory that was close at hand?
Ayn Rand is not conservative, none of that is conservative.
one of the most impressive interviews of the many very good ones you have provided, Johnathan!!