I’m old enough to remember learning about black holes in school as an unlikely phenomenon that was purely theoretical. There have been so many exiting discoveries in my lifetime, and I hope to see many more before I go.
Our camera angles and mic setup might not be perfectly aligned, but just like gravitational lensing, we’re bending the rules to bring you the best black hole content which was captured much more spur of the moment (a fly by if you will)! 🌌 Thanks for sticking with us through these minor distortions. Enjoy these insights from Neil deGrasse Tyson, Gary O’Reilly, Steve Balbus, and Andy Mummery as we dive into the universe’s mysteries! 🔭
Love the content. One likely possibility is that the other mics needed to be dipped down when one person is speaking. Seems like your post team did some of that but not all the time. There are also methods for aligning the audio waveforms if you’re able to move audio subframes or samples in the timeline.
@@CloudWaIker112 I know. But this is a _new analytical solution_ to one of the _most famous_ partial differential equations in the world. How many people do you know who can claim to have found something like that by hand?
Hello, old guy here who barely graduated high school. I love the fact that Neil's show brings together people (scientists) who, each in their own field, are trying to find answers that make up a piece of a puzzle that, while we may have a small idea of the basic premise of, no one is quite sure what the end result of the puzzle will look like. In the words of one of my favorite sci-fi characters..."Fascinating!"
We have discovered a lot (or better yet, scientists have discovered a lot) about how the universe works. However there seems to me that there will always be an endless amount of discoveries basically forever. I cannot see us knowing everything about everything and also travel to all parts of the universe at will if we want to. I hope we do discover everything I just cannot fathom that ever coming to fruition. So I think we have to come to peace with the fact that while we have begun to understand a lot about how the world and universe around us works, there is just simply an endless amount of things we don’t know or understand. It’s just reality and there’s nothing we can do about it right now besides just be at peace with it. It is what it is, in other words.
I and amongst many others I’ve spoken to about this topic is that it gives me a certain amount of acceptance and comfort in knowing that there is so much that has yet to be discovered. I don’t know why, it just does.
If you had read the book of K.T., you'd know that he DID know that the time differences were impossible, but the director needed them that way for the plot.
It was only possible if the black hole was spinning near light speed. So technically possible, not practically. So deep in the gravity well, everything would have already been a quark-gluon soup in the accretion disc.
True. I actually watched a presentation from Kip Throne earlier this year and he said exactly this. He proposed a "correct" scenario, but it was not up to Hollywood emotion levels, so he "allowed" the production team to go crazy with it.
This was so awesome! I loved hearing from an Oxford Post Doctoral student on gravitational eddies in black holes. I love how you brought Interstellar into it as it is a touchpoint from which we can talk to each other, layman to Physicist.
My husband, for a period of a whole three weeks, was the world expert on black holes, until another doctoral candidate published his thesis. This was back in the last 60s and early 70s.
I love the finger snapping transition! @StarTalk Was it planned, or improvised? This was an amazing episode, one of my favourites - and I've been watching since 2009!
Newton absolutely stood on the shoulders of giants. His equations explained Kepler’s laws, and Kepler in turn stood on the shoulders of Galileo, who stood on the shoulders of Copernicus, who stood on the shoulders of Aristarchus.
I just wish Neil didn't interrupt the guests so often to explain to Gary. It would have been better to let guests finish their explanations before Neil interjects with his own remarks.
It’s great to see Gary in the same room as Neil! Having Chuck in the separate picture and his jokes that would ensue would have been classic, but it was fun to see Gary in England.
Gargantua is the name of the super massive black hole in Interstellar. The name of the closest planet o the event horizon of Gargantua is Miller's Planet
I thought it was just a smaller, quieter, calmer black hole, and not a super massive black hole. It was essentially playing the role of the sun in that system as far as I understood it.
The question is always more interesting than the answer. It is the quest that is important. On the quest you swim the whirlpool, battle giant, sleep chaste with virgins, slay dragon, rescue princess, discover the hidden mountain, enter the invisible cave, consult the 3,000 year old man, climb the ice mountain to the castle of the grail, negotiate the labyrinth and find the grail. You pick it up - and you are merely holding a cup.
The latest advancements in black hole physics are truly fascinating, particularly the growing understanding of how black holes interact with their surroundings. Recent studies on black hole mergers, quantum information paradoxes, and event horizon imaging have deepened our insights into these enigmatic objects. These findings are pushing the boundaries of our knowledge in astrophysics, challenging existing theories and opening up new possibilities for understanding the fundamental nature of the universe. With the recent breakthroughs in black hole imaging and quantum information theory, how do you think these discoveries will influence our understanding of spacetime and the fabric of the universe? Are we on the brink of a new paradigm in astrophysics that could potentially reconcile general relativity with quantum mechanics?
Astrophysicists, Cosmologists and Astronomers are working on this and have been for a while now. They are working on connecting the world of the macro (general relativity) and the world of the micro (quantum mechanics) into one theory of everything.
Connecting these two must be the most difficult and time consuming task I can imagine. They just don’t want to fit together. So are they close? How could we know? I believe we are quite far from a theory of everything by combining general relativity and quantum mechanics.
ever since i was a kid i as fascinated with space and astronomy and like many other people, black holes. im so lucky to be alive during modern science that discovers these things somewhat rapidly, i mean not that like ago we proved gravitational waves existed as well. how long before hawking radiation? or being able to visualize black holes in much of the way we visualize galaxies? theres something so exciting about this video and hearing the invention of a new term to explain this unstable orbit, it feels like we get closer and closer to unlocking all of the secrets of black holes every day.
@@mattorr2256 haha unfortunately i dont have that kind of money or resources, maybe one day. im 25 currently and struggling to get my bachelors in psychology and will soon have to take care of my mother. i also really, REALLY hate math lol and that can throw a wrench into things since astrophysics is some of the most complicated math in existence. i appreciate the beauty and wonder and sheer indifference of the universe in a literary sense, but beyond that, i fear i havent got what it takes to make any sort of drastic career choices lol at least not right now.
As a non-native English speaker and a layman in astrophysics (despite being an enthusiast), this was the most difficult, impalpable, airy conversation I've ever had the pleasure of listening to.
I know I shouldn't, but I can't help myself. I can't stop laughing now that I noticed that all three belly's look the same size and are lined up in a row to show them off 🤣
44:45 I am only a Biologist, but I hear this phrase from my supervisor very often "I want you to be more ambitious!" 😄. What a marvelous video, it showed me that, although our fields are very different, we may encounter the same questions during a post doc.
All of the sciences have some similarities that connect them all. Some more than others but still, if it’s a science, there will be aspects or themes that correlate each of them together
Oh and Biology and being a Biologist is nothing to feel inferior about. Biology is a very important field of science. I only am stating this because you started out by stating “I am only a Biologist”.
Neil's interruptions were on another level in this episode. I'm impressed the guests were as respectful as they were. Gary looked genuinely annoyed after a while.
I was thinking the same about Gary. He looked physically annoyed, and why does Neil keep touching their forearms when he's talking to them? It seems a bit weird.
I am a fan of startalk but Neil should reduce interrupting people. I just start looking at their faces to see if they felt irritated once he does that 😂.
It really irritated me, Neil would as a question, and as soon as the last guest started to answer it, he's interrupted him, and he couldn't get a word in edgewise
Idk but that's a really good idea man- good thinking. I had never considered that. The only thing that makes me sort of doubt it is because he said gravity times orbit and called it a "new term"- which makes me think he's talking about a whole new phenomenon that only happens next to a black hole. Relativistic mass gain happens anywhere, anytime, all you need is an object with mass that's moving.
I imagine the biggest difference between Newtonian gravity and GR is that in GR the stress of warped spacetime embodies a tremendous amount of energy which further warps spacetime, creating a positive feedback loop that doesn't exist in Newton's model.
i remain very confused by the physical shapes of black holes, whether they also have a traveling orbit or if they anchor themselves. if they anchor themselves, to what do they anchor themselves? If accretion discs are magnetic, why are the accretion disks always portrayed as a horizontal bond, only in the center? Why aren’t there also accretion discs on North/South poles, or even as a type of light spherical shell showing the direction of light, from a spherical point of origin, towards the center of graviy? There is a Relativity Answer Book is out there, for the layman. I am curious about IF there is a back side to a back hole, assuming anything could survive observance? if it has a shape, let alone an orbit, like a spherical planet, then it make sense that there should be a geometrical shape around one whom can orbit. Would you agree? Also, once a black hole’s gravity hits maximal effect, wouldn’t the mass be crush to the smallest possible size? if so, wouldn’t the accretion disk be the only thing we could see, like a white bulb against black “Lite brite” paper? (See reference to 1970s lite brite paper creations). Finally, regarding orbits and rotation, do the black holes (Or even planets) ever rotate around a North South axis, or deviations from that 3 dimensional impact? i am always struggling to imagine the “flipped papers” of every drawing about orbits. I try to imagine the view of the observer, coming from opposite direction from Earth. I try to do the same on planet orbits…if you take the front view of drawn orbits but drew each orbit as separate rubber band rings. I imagine the orbiter going towards the center star while rotating close to the North/South pole. More collisions might be avoided if the planet could orbit 360 degrees. i have the same confusion about black holes…
It's really pretty simple, the nodules on the sea floor are composed of crystals of different minerals with different electrochemical potentials, which in contact with the electrolyte of seawater cause a current to flow, causing electrolysis that separates water into oxygen and hydrogen. It's essentially innumerable tiny batteries. I assume the hydrogen reacts with other chemicals.
From the polar equations of the trisectrices as applied with the exponential part of Doyle's constant to give an "invisible touch", just a slight bump in order to view hyperbolic math from the lens of elliptical math. The conchoid of Nicomedes: gravitational fields affect the corner/cusp singularities, the cosine of theta represents how this laterally drives the central bulge to form a tornado of fluidic motion that occasionally forms gaps and can spin off budded primordial black holes. The Maclaurin trisectrix: the sine of 3 times theta represents the effects of the paired corner/cusp singularities forcing a rotation in the central bulge. The doubling signifies the top and bottom halves of the bulge. The Tschirnhausen cubic: the ripples of energy from the paired corner/cusp singularities combine at the inflected areas to fatten the particle. The trisectrix limaçon: the cosine of theta represents the line between the leading and trailing points of the rotating ring/cylinder/horn singularity being united with the rest of the body, such as a photon or electron, and the 1 squared divisor represents how gravity elongates the singularity, through the "magic" of split-complex numbers and how the leading and trailing rotating points maintain an elliptical orbit around each other. The equilateral trefoil: a supernova event. A high metallicity collapsing star briefly forms dark matter. The dark matter drives the explosion and gets quickly broken up. The cosine of 3 times theta represents how the dark matter breaks up at the inflected areas. The regular trifolium: the cosine of 3 times theta represents how a feeding or forming black hole singularity wobbles. The Ceva trisectrix: the 1 + 2 times the cosine of 2 times theta represents the top and bottom halves of the budding bulge of Big Bang era dark matter. The sine of 3 times theta over the sine of theta represents how ripples of energy from alternating corner/cusp singularities unite at the inflected areas to form a bulged disk shape from the inflection points onward toward the center. The Delanges trisectrix: the cosine of theta halved. Reminiscent of the natural logarithm of the imaginary number, forces are being released perpendicularly, but causing rotation instead of hindering it. The Dürer folium: whether in a proton or neutron, the two ring/cylinder/horn elliptical singularities cannot stably form obtuse associations. The hyperbola of eccentricity 2: gravity is produced, creating an accretion disk and causing impacts and a consumption of the less massive particle or body.
I just found out Neils mom is puerto rican 🇵🇷. Puerto ricans contribute significantly to the US Government in various areas of expertise, even more than States and that information doesn’t get shared. Puerto ricans are in charge of many programs at NASA from the ISS to Space travel, etc.
I am very delighted and happy to see and witnessing with new communication technology for new science development. We not only get information about the publication and the research. But also hear from them in conservative response to scientific thoughts. My heartiest congratulations to all four of who have not only interested but have worked with blackhole physics for long (3+1). My support to new star as you have located. It is my surprise that you have Newton's mechanics when it is by convention that inside the space alone or no space quantum is the way as it is established by decades. I am also involved in understanding physics in my TOE approach, since long as SURT recently me too with very classical derivations ( not GR) I could established what is the reason behind the stability inside a blackhole and what is so special in event horizon. But also with very simple equation, my standard unit techniques I could established the unit black hole mass for my system. Value is exact by experimental observation. All old and new data of stellar observations. New physics fact that I could derived that deep inside the black hole ( as a inverse square root of radius of event horizon scale, at half way from point mass two opposite pole due to moment of inertia of inside disc rotation around the axis could act as two opposite mass ejection spot depending on a nice equilibrium due to falling mass and unit horizon and unit mass relation inside BH. It is in progress that a new time is emergent showings the sign of three generation. For very small atomic scale, yet to explore and details. But I am now more on geometry and gravity. With a great hope that you will reach the truth very soon. As you have discussed the temperature, I have found a 4D kelvin scale from 4D volume. I will get there on due course. Thank you & your channel to cover this history and salute to be a part of a history being written. Namaste 🙏 from my part to contribute few words in your big platform. Videos that I often shared.
So what’s the possibility that Super Massive Black Holes (SMBH) are like seeds for new Universes? Assume that a SMBH consumes a complete Galaxy that has formed around it condenses the materials that were sucked into it and when it can’t hold anymore pops like a balloon which is a Big Bang? If our own Universe was created in such a way? It seems like an answer that can’t ever be confirmed and will forever remain unknown
Roger Penrose is working on a version of this. Black holes emit their contents gradually as Hawking radiation until they evaporate. Eventually all the matter in the universe will be in black holes, and then it will be Hawking radiation. At that point, time and distance stop making sense because photons don't experience time and space like we do. From there, another big bang could occur.
"and when it can’t hold anymore pops like a balloon" - I think there is some confusion here. The more the BH "sucks" in the easier it can "hold stuff in" since the gravitational force get stronger.
@@fang_xianfu The time frames you are considering here are so extreme, that the proposed half life of protons would play a role as well as the universal exapnsion of the Univsere to a point where the distance between atomic building blocks, i.e. Quarks, would get so far that the particle istself would get ripped apart.
We "see" the edge of the universe the same way that that we "see" the edge of a black hole... There is a non zero chance that a black hole is a universe.
Willans' Formula for primes: 2 to the n part = vertical asymptote and p-adic numbers. 1/n part = vertical tangent. Factorial part = vertical line. These tensors from differential calculus determine singularities in stable matter as represented as primes. Willan's Formula can be looked for budding primordial black holes and for black holes forming from low metallicity collapsing stars. Willan's Formula also applies to dark matter unflaking during a Big Bang event and to dark matter being broken up into galaxies or solar systems. The floor function part corresponds to the Delanges sectrix and trisectrix. Sectrix for the unflaking and trisectrix for when the dark matter is broken up by a supernova.
I don't know if Neal deGrasse Tyson has spoken on this matter. If he has, I have yet to find the video. However, recently I have come a crossed the black hole Firewall theory. If I understand it correctly (Which I'm sure I don't Lol 😅), it would be a barrier of particles that prevent anything from ever crossing the event horizon because anything that passes through is basically disintegrated. I've heard that it explains how Quantum Entangled Particles that pass through the event horizon could be separated and re-tangled with other particles as they escape through Hawking Radiation and it would inevitably prevent anything from ever truly crossing through the event horizon. With that said, keep in mind, I'm a college drop out, got nothing but C's in high school and failed college level algebra twice.... so to quote Smash Mouth, "I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed." Lol 😅I'm just curious as to what Neal deGrasse Tyson thinks about it.
Of course it goes in otherwise everything would spin forever around it and look like a weird collage but great question neil you really had me thinking 😊
The magneto rotational instability I remember the earlier episode mr Tyson talking about the Higgs felid on that gas the charge particles entangled and spinning so when it’s gets wider n wider the times slows down it’s like a gymnastic spinning on a center point and then the two persons spinning by hands to hand it’s gets less effective to the subject and of course the mass of the gas should to be count on other wise it will go right in to it
@Neil, I have one question, in a space time fabric (sorry I don't know the exact term) why do we only have time dilation across our universe and not space dilation? How do we exactly know that for eg 1 km on earth will be the same in a far away galaxy?
What do you think is the most significant unanswered question about black holes and their impact on our understanding of the universe?
Will black holes be the last thing to die out in the universe
@@MrBoomer-k6v they might merge and remake the universe I'm hoping
Can trillions of mini blackholes explain dark matter?
That thing with the quarks, fascinated now.!
If time "stops" at the event horizon, how can black holes merge?
Black holes are the engine of universe expansion
I’m old enough to remember learning about black holes in school as an unlikely phenomenon that was purely theoretical. There have been so many exiting discoveries in my lifetime, and I hope to see many more before I go.
It blows my mind how much of astrophysics is being discovered. It has its pros and cons (con being those who don’t believe in space)
Our camera angles and mic setup might not be perfectly aligned, but just like gravitational lensing, we’re bending the rules to bring you the best black hole content which was captured much more spur of the moment (a fly by if you will)! 🌌 Thanks for sticking with us through these minor distortions. Enjoy these insights from Neil deGrasse Tyson, Gary O’Reilly, Steve Balbus, and Andy Mummery as we dive into the universe’s mysteries! 🔭
Keep up the good work!
Makes me feel like I’m casually sitting on the other side of the table just soaking in the conversation
Dude. Glad you said something. 🥬🔥
One of the best episodes you have done.
Love the content. One likely possibility is that the other mics needed to be dipped down when one person is speaking. Seems like your post team did some of that but not all the time. There are also methods for aligning the audio waveforms if you’re able to move audio subframes or samples in the timeline.
PEN AND PAPER! Most people have NO IDEA how impressive it is to do SOMETHING NEW with pen and paper. Protect this man!!!
Not really most people still use paper
@@CloudWaIker112 I know. But this is a _new analytical solution_ to one of the _most famous_ partial differential equations in the world. How many people do you know who can claim to have found something like that by hand?
I keep a few people people that did that in my circle
@@syk9475 Cool man. I know a few that use a lot of paper, but none that don't use computers somewhere along the math process.
at ALL costs
Hello, old guy here who barely graduated high school. I love the fact that Neil's show brings together people (scientists) who, each in their own field, are trying to find answers that make up a piece of a puzzle that, while we may have a small idea of the basic premise of, no one is quite sure what the end result of the puzzle will look like. In the words of one of my favorite sci-fi characters..."Fascinating!"
We have discovered a lot (or better yet, scientists have discovered a lot) about how the universe works. However there seems to me that there will always be an endless amount of discoveries basically forever. I cannot see us knowing everything about everything and also travel to all parts of the universe at will if we want to. I hope we do discover everything I just cannot fathom that ever coming to fruition. So I think we have to come to peace with the fact that while we have begun to understand a lot about how the world and universe around us works, there is just simply an endless amount of things we don’t know or understand. It’s just reality and there’s nothing we can do about it right now besides just be at peace with it. It is what it is, in other words.
I and amongst many others I’ve spoken to about this topic is that it gives me a certain amount of acceptance and comfort in knowing that there is so much that has yet to be discovered. I don’t know why, it just does.
I’m watching this to try falling asleep…but it is not boring enough…it’s interesting!
I love this channel
Ikr :D
Same lol
I listened to this with my eyes closed & my mind open.So should you.
Same! 🤣
oh the blunt gon’ be lit for this one 😶🌫️
Heyy Chuck 😉
Cheers! 🍃
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😂😂😂😂 facts
So much for remembering anything learned.
If you had read the book of K.T., you'd know that he DID know that the time differences were impossible, but the director needed them that way for the plot.
It was only possible if the black hole was spinning near light speed. So technically possible, not practically. So deep in the gravity well, everything would have already been a quark-gluon soup in the accretion disc.
Well the book actually says IT gonna work if you spin it :)
True. I actually watched a presentation from Kip Throne earlier this year and he said exactly this. He proposed a "correct" scenario, but it was not up to Hollywood emotion levels, so he "allowed" the production team to go crazy with it.
@@Ausknutz The time dilation for a planet just outside R-isco would be so small it would be useless for the plot.
I came here to comment that
This was so awesome! I loved hearing from an Oxford Post Doctoral student on gravitational eddies in black holes. I love how you brought Interstellar into it as it is a touchpoint from which we can talk to each other, layman to Physicist.
Kip Thorne wrote a book called 'The science behind Interstellar '. The book really gets to the SPECIFICS of everything in the movie. I recommend it
You should watch the interview NDT did with Kip Thorne if you liked the book, they talk about it a lot.
My husband, for a period of a whole three weeks, was the world expert on black holes, until another doctoral candidate published his thesis. This was back in the last 60s and early 70s.
That’s actually insanely cool!!!!
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No he wasnt i was 😡
Very cool!
Cool made up story 👍
I love the finger snapping transition! @StarTalk Was it planned, or improvised? This was an amazing episode, one of my favourites - and I've been watching since 2009!
Newton absolutely stood on the shoulders of giants. His equations explained Kepler’s laws, and Kepler in turn stood on the shoulders of Galileo, who stood on the shoulders of Copernicus, who stood on the shoulders of Aristarchus.
Who stood on the shoulders of aliens, who taught how to build the pyramids
@@petergriffin383 😉
They definitely gettin into the r rated movie.
@@petergriffin383 don’t be ridiculous, those aliens don’t have shoulders.
@@petergriffin383 our lord and savior peter griffin taught them.
I just wish Neil didn't interrupt the guests so often to explain to Gary. It would have been better to let guests finish their explanations before Neil interjects with his own remarks.
Agreed 100%
I agree, it is quite frustrating trying to listen to the guest speaking and Neil just jumps in and I'm just thinking shut up and let him speak
You want him to just sit down there and speak if the show is ending? 🤣🤣🤣
Never comment on videos but Neil would NOT stop interrupting. I almost turned it off entirely
It makes it more accessible to people. That's the whole point of having Gary or Chuck on the show.
I friggin love listening to how fundamental things we now take for granted got discovered/invented from 1st hand! Thank you for this episode indeed!
0:53 😂😂😂😂😂 interpreter ! You may not be Chuck but you certainly are cool af and we love seeing you on the channel. Alex - Brighton. 🎉
…and he still wants to know you….🤣💀
@@rhys1564 I don’t get it 😂🙈
It’s great to see Gary in the same room as Neil! Having Chuck in the separate picture and his jokes that would ensue would have been classic, but it was fun to see Gary in England.
As much as i love NDT, sometimes i wish he would stop interrupting people and just let them speak
Yes!
"You tread heavily, but you speak the truth."
Gargantua is the name of the super massive black hole in Interstellar. The name of the closest planet o the event horizon of Gargantua is Miller's Planet
Thank you! I was looking for this comment
I thought it was just a smaller, quieter, calmer black hole, and not a super massive black hole. It was essentially playing the role of the sun in that system as far as I understood it.
31:05 Neil’s face when he broke through and understood something new. Love it.
Actually read the Kip Thorn book and still have it on my bookshelf.
Wow !!! Did you get pumped by him to?
Do you do know that he explained it? Quite well I must say.
The question is always more interesting than the answer. It is the quest that is important. On the quest you swim the whirlpool, battle giant, sleep chaste with virgins, slay dragon, rescue princess, discover the hidden mountain, enter the invisible cave, consult the 3,000 year old man, climb the ice mountain to the castle of the grail, negotiate the labyrinth and find the grail. You pick it up - and you are merely holding a cup.
Loved this, incredible that Andy did some leading edge research with pen and paper! Maybe that says something.....!!!!
One of the best episodes so far! It's refreshing to see enthusiastic young scientists from our generation doing such work.
The latest advancements in black hole physics are truly fascinating, particularly the growing understanding of how black holes interact with their surroundings. Recent studies on black hole mergers, quantum information paradoxes, and event horizon imaging have deepened our insights into these enigmatic objects. These findings are pushing the boundaries of our knowledge in astrophysics, challenging existing theories and opening up new possibilities for understanding the fundamental nature of the universe. With the recent breakthroughs in black hole imaging and quantum information theory, how do you think these discoveries will influence our understanding of spacetime and the fabric of the universe? Are we on the brink of a new paradigm in astrophysics that could potentially reconcile general relativity with quantum mechanics?
Am I crazy or is this comment doped with an injection of chat gpt
Astrophysicists, Cosmologists and Astronomers are working on this and have been for a while now. They are working on connecting the world of the macro (general relativity) and the world of the micro (quantum mechanics) into one theory of everything.
@@JS55505yes I agree with you. The comment does seem like it has some chat gpt in it.
Connecting these two must be the most difficult and time consuming task I can imagine. They just don’t want to fit together. So are they close? How could we know? I believe we are quite far from a theory of everything by combining general relativity and quantum mechanics.
ever since i was a kid i as fascinated with space and astronomy and like many other people, black holes. im so lucky to be alive during modern science that discovers these things somewhat rapidly, i mean not that like ago we proved gravitational waves existed as well. how long before hawking radiation? or being able to visualize black holes in much of the way we visualize galaxies? theres something so exciting about this video and hearing the invention of a new term to explain this unstable orbit, it feels like we get closer and closer to unlocking all of the secrets of black holes every day.
Seek an education in Astronomy or Astrophysics. Help contribute to humanities understanding of the universe. To me there is no greater human endeavor.
@@mattorr2256 haha unfortunately i dont have that kind of money or resources, maybe one day. im 25 currently and struggling to get my bachelors in psychology and will soon have to take care of my mother. i also really, REALLY hate math lol and that can throw a wrench into things since astrophysics is some of the most complicated math in existence. i appreciate the beauty and wonder and sheer indifference of the universe in a literary sense, but beyond that, i fear i havent got what it takes to make any sort of drastic career choices lol at least not right now.
I can hear Chuck's sigh at the fact that he had to clean his microwave for this Factor_ product placement.
As a non-native English speaker and a layman in astrophysics (despite being an enthusiast), this was the most difficult, impalpable, airy conversation I've ever had the pleasure of listening to.
I know I shouldn't, but I can't help myself. I can't stop laughing now that I noticed that all three belly's look the same size and are lined up in a row to show them off 🤣
When my daughter took AP Physics C, her favorite homework was a problem that took her 3 days to solve. Her mind craved computation.
hahaha. Neil's gag about "muster the fortitude" at 24:33 was hilarious!
Took a lot of notes from this. Keep this up I love it
44:45 I am only a Biologist, but I hear this phrase from my supervisor very often "I want you to be more ambitious!" 😄. What a marvelous video, it showed me that, although our fields are very different, we may encounter the same questions during a post doc.
All of the sciences have some similarities that connect them all. Some more than others but still, if it’s a science, there will be aspects or themes that correlate each of them together
Oh and Biology and being a Biologist is nothing to feel inferior about. Biology is a very important field of science. I only am stating this because you started out by stating “I am only a Biologist”.
I love how we can hear from the best. The “student” was awesome as well
Chuck must've ran into Turbulent Eddy.
Very deep episode ! New words coined ! Thanks
Neil's interruptions were on another level in this episode. I'm impressed the guests were as respectful as they were. Gary looked genuinely annoyed after a while.
He usually looks annoyed 😂
I was thinking the same about Gary. He looked physically annoyed, and why does Neil keep touching their forearms when he's talking to them? It seems a bit weird.
I am a fan of startalk but Neil should reduce interrupting people. I just start looking at their faces to see if they felt irritated once he does that 😂.
It really irritated me, Neil would as a question, and as soon as the last guest started to answer it, he's interrupted him, and he couldn't get a word in edgewise
Absolutely
Neil, your Cosmic Perspective at the end was spot on. Thank you for a great interview session. Bravo. 👏
34:04 get the man some Hagorogo
Such a great episode so informative as usual. Really showed how much levity chuck adds though 😂
Love this show
28:10 - Is it the relativistic increase in mass of the matter orbiting he black hole as it increases in speed - is that what causes the instability?
Idk but that's a really good idea man- good thinking. I had never considered that. The only thing that makes me sort of doubt it is because he said gravity times orbit and called it a "new term"- which makes me think he's talking about a whole new phenomenon that only happens next to a black hole. Relativistic mass gain happens anywhere, anytime, all you need is an object with mass that's moving.
Relativistic mass is passé
I imagine the biggest difference between Newtonian gravity and GR is that in GR the stress of warped spacetime embodies a tremendous amount of energy which further warps spacetime, creating a positive feedback loop that doesn't exist in Newton's model.
i remain very confused by the physical shapes of black holes, whether they also have a traveling orbit or if they anchor themselves. if they anchor themselves, to what do they anchor themselves? If accretion discs are magnetic, why are the accretion disks always portrayed as a horizontal bond, only in the center? Why aren’t there also accretion discs on North/South poles, or even as a type of light spherical shell showing the direction of light, from a spherical point of origin, towards the center of graviy?
There is a Relativity Answer Book is out there, for the layman.
I am curious about IF there is a back side to a back hole, assuming anything could survive observance? if it has a shape, let alone an orbit, like a spherical planet, then it make sense that there should be a geometrical shape around one whom can orbit. Would you agree?
Also, once a black hole’s gravity hits maximal effect, wouldn’t the mass be crush to the smallest possible size? if so, wouldn’t the accretion disk be the only thing we could see, like a white bulb against black “Lite brite” paper? (See reference to 1970s lite brite paper creations).
Finally, regarding orbits and rotation, do the black holes (Or even planets) ever rotate around a North South axis, or deviations from that 3 dimensional impact?
i am always struggling to imagine the “flipped papers” of every drawing about orbits. I try to imagine the view of the observer, coming from opposite direction from Earth. I try to do the same on planet orbits…if you take the front view of drawn orbits but drew each orbit as separate rubber band rings. I imagine the orbiter going towards the center star while rotating close to the North/South pole. More collisions might be avoided if the planet could orbit 360 degrees. i have the same confusion about black holes…
I want to know more about the dark oxygen they are talking about discovering in the ocean
It's really pretty simple, the nodules on the sea floor are composed of crystals of different minerals with different electrochemical potentials, which in contact with the electrolyte of seawater cause a current to flow, causing electrolysis that separates water into oxygen and hydrogen. It's essentially innumerable tiny batteries. I assume the hydrogen reacts with other chemicals.
Kyle Hill made a fantastic video on dark oxygen
@@crawknwow. Thank you for the breakdown
The end was really heart warming ❤ I love to dedicate my life to science. I'll hope we figure out a lot more of nature's meaning in my lifetime
Anyone else noticed how Rosey his face was at the beginning of the interview, and then the further it got, it turned beet red LOL
Probably because Neil is so damn difficult to talk to
I noticed it too. I was like damn did they slap him around off camera lol
Nervousness probably, but maybe multiplied by rosacea. He sounded fine though so maybe not nervous but just adrenaline.
Ya, went to the comments to see if anyone else was talking about it.
Nervousness or nervousness by adrenaline rush. That’s all it is. This shouldn’t be a mystery here…
i love Interstellar and everytime Neil brings it up, it's like me telling anyone who will listen about how great that movie is!
Astrophysical Gas
Neil you gotta be one of my favorite Humans, never stop doing what you do
I do love Chuck but I really do love it when Gary O'REILLY shows up!
From the polar equations of the trisectrices as applied with the exponential part of Doyle's constant to give an "invisible touch", just a slight bump in order to view hyperbolic math from the lens of elliptical math.
The conchoid of Nicomedes: gravitational fields affect the corner/cusp singularities, the cosine of theta represents how this laterally drives the central bulge to form a tornado of fluidic motion that occasionally forms gaps and can spin off budded primordial black holes.
The Maclaurin trisectrix: the sine of 3 times theta represents the effects of the paired corner/cusp singularities forcing a rotation in the central bulge. The doubling signifies the top and bottom halves of the bulge.
The Tschirnhausen cubic: the ripples of energy from the paired corner/cusp singularities combine at the inflected areas to fatten the particle.
The trisectrix limaçon: the cosine of theta represents the line between the leading and trailing points of the rotating ring/cylinder/horn singularity being united with the rest of the body, such as a photon or electron, and the 1 squared divisor represents how gravity elongates the singularity, through the "magic" of split-complex numbers and how the leading and trailing rotating points maintain an elliptical orbit around each other.
The equilateral trefoil: a supernova event. A high metallicity collapsing star briefly forms dark matter. The dark matter drives the explosion and gets quickly broken up. The cosine of 3 times theta represents how the dark matter breaks up at the inflected areas.
The regular trifolium: the cosine of 3 times theta represents how a feeding or forming black hole singularity wobbles.
The Ceva trisectrix: the 1 + 2 times the cosine of 2 times theta represents the top and bottom halves of the budding bulge of Big Bang era dark matter. The sine of 3 times theta over the sine of theta represents how ripples of energy from alternating corner/cusp singularities unite at the inflected areas to form a bulged disk shape from the inflection points onward toward the center.
The Delanges trisectrix: the cosine of theta halved. Reminiscent of the natural logarithm of the imaginary number, forces are being released perpendicularly, but causing rotation instead of hindering it.
The Dürer folium: whether in a proton or neutron, the two ring/cylinder/horn elliptical singularities cannot stably form obtuse associations.
The hyperbola of eccentricity 2: gravity is produced, creating an accretion disk and causing impacts and a consumption of the less massive particle or body.
Damn bro can you be a little more specific?
Lol just kidding. Amazing explanation
Thank you 😊
Please make that “physics is my god” tee shirt! 😊
@ about 05:10 "Eddies in the space time continum ...oh, really, who is Eddy?" Douglas Adams :) He had it way before you guys! LOL
Please let your guest try to finish before interupting them constantly Neil! Really ruins the otherwise great show
1 min in and were chuck free i think this may be my second favorite episode (my first is anything with Charles liu in it)
I just found out Neils mom is puerto rican 🇵🇷. Puerto ricans contribute significantly to the US Government in various areas of expertise, even more than States and that information doesn’t get shared. Puerto ricans are in charge of many programs at NASA from the ISS to Space travel, etc.
Of course, they are Americans after all!
I am very delighted and happy to see and witnessing with new communication technology for new science development.
We not only get information about the publication and the research. But also hear from them in conservative response to scientific thoughts.
My heartiest congratulations to all four of who have not only interested but have worked with blackhole physics for long (3+1).
My support to new star as you have located.
It is my surprise that you have Newton's mechanics when it is by convention that inside the space alone or no space quantum is the way as it is established by decades.
I am also involved in understanding physics in my TOE approach, since long as SURT recently me too with very classical derivations ( not GR)
I could established what is the reason behind the stability inside a blackhole and what is so special in event horizon. But also with very simple equation, my standard unit techniques I could established the unit black hole mass for my system. Value is exact by experimental observation. All old and new data of stellar observations.
New physics fact that I could derived that deep inside the black hole ( as a inverse square root of radius of event horizon scale, at half way from point mass two opposite pole due to moment of inertia of inside disc rotation around the axis could act as two opposite mass ejection spot depending on a nice equilibrium due to falling mass and unit horizon and unit mass relation inside BH.
It is in progress that a new time is emergent showings the sign of three generation.
For very small atomic scale, yet to explore and details. But I am now more on geometry and gravity.
With a great hope that you will reach the truth very soon.
As you have discussed the temperature, I have found a 4D kelvin scale from 4D volume. I will get there on due course.
Thank you & your channel to cover this history and salute to be a part of a history being written.
Namaste 🙏 from my part to contribute few words in your big platform.
Videos that I often shared.
Great content
I really enjoyed this interview.
So what’s the possibility that Super Massive Black Holes (SMBH) are like seeds for new Universes? Assume that a SMBH consumes a complete Galaxy that has formed around it condenses the materials that were sucked into it and when it can’t hold anymore pops like a balloon which is a Big Bang? If our own Universe was created in such a way? It seems like an answer that can’t ever be confirmed and will forever remain unknown
What in the infinity big bang storm is this?
Super tengen toppa gurren lagann predicted theoretical blackhole physics in 2027!?
Roger Penrose is working on a version of this. Black holes emit their contents gradually as Hawking radiation until they evaporate. Eventually all the matter in the universe will be in black holes, and then it will be Hawking radiation. At that point, time and distance stop making sense because photons don't experience time and space like we do. From there, another big bang could occur.
"and when it can’t hold anymore pops like a balloon" - I think there is some confusion here. The more the BH "sucks" in the easier it can "hold stuff in" since the gravitational force get stronger.
@@fang_xianfu The time frames you are considering here are so extreme, that the proposed half life of protons would play a role as well as the universal exapnsion of the Univsere to a point where the distance between atomic building blocks, i.e. Quarks, would get so far that the particle istself would get ripped apart.
We "see" the edge of the universe the same way that that we "see" the edge of a black hole... There is a non zero chance that a black hole is a universe.
Here's a joke:
Knock, knock.
Who's there?
Interrupting astrophysicist.
Interr-NEIL DEGRASSE TYSON!
😂🤣😜
A black hole is synonymous with the Pentagon budget 😁
You mean, everyone is spinning around it in a heated debate, and when you don't feed any new money, it will disappear from view?
Lmao "BUT THEYRE NOT REAL PAPERS" "THEY WERE NOT APPROVED" 😂 I love his comebacks 😅😂
First comment ?😂
Seventh friend
Traffic-circle yourself silly :D I love that.
Them: talking about unsolved problems
Me fresh off the smoke: man yall need to get on that
Willans' Formula for primes:
2 to the n part = vertical asymptote and p-adic numbers. 1/n part = vertical tangent. Factorial part = vertical line. These tensors from differential calculus determine singularities in stable matter as represented as primes.
Willan's Formula can be looked for budding primordial black holes and for black holes forming from low metallicity collapsing stars. Willan's Formula also applies to dark matter unflaking during a Big Bang event and to dark matter being broken up into galaxies or solar systems. The floor function part corresponds to the Delanges sectrix and trisectrix. Sectrix for the unflaking and trisectrix for when the dark matter is broken up by a supernova.
science nerds getting together to talk about crazy stuff is the absolute best
excited!
Extraordinary achievement congratulations, amazing talk.
“We take pictures of them and put them on our iphones.” Was a crazy statement. It truly shows how fast we are advancing as a race.
Andy is a common guest on Dr. Becky's show. Love them both for their individual contributions to popularizing physics.
Think this one is the best one yet. Just it’s been over 100 and no one thought of it till now.
I don't know if Neal deGrasse Tyson has spoken on this matter. If he has, I have yet to find the video. However, recently I have come a crossed the black hole Firewall theory. If I understand it correctly (Which I'm sure I don't Lol 😅), it would be a barrier of particles that prevent anything from ever crossing the event horizon because anything that passes through is basically disintegrated. I've heard that it explains how Quantum Entangled Particles that pass through the event horizon could be separated and re-tangled with other particles as they escape through Hawking Radiation and it would inevitably prevent anything from ever truly crossing through the event horizon. With that said, keep in mind, I'm a college drop out, got nothing but C's in high school and failed college level algebra twice.... so to quote Smash Mouth, "I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed." Lol 😅I'm just curious as to what Neal deGrasse Tyson thinks about it.
So much intelligence in that room. So little ego. I love it!!
Is it possible to observe and detect whether or not particles such as x ray decay over space as opposed to time?
Andy Mummery thank you answers
Welcome to England, hope you enjoy your visit.
28:12 😍I live near these crazy smart people 😍 autograph book prepared 😂
Neil, amazing you were in Oxford! Wish I met you!
He just said that it moves quickly and in all directions, it practically stays in place as if it were returning to its original form!
Had to watch this three times now
Thank you!
Thank you
Of course it goes in otherwise everything would spin forever around it and look like a weird collage but great question neil you really had me thinking 😊
Best science podcast
I love the humor in your videos. I'm interested in black holes and dark matter.
Cheers! I got the chill bumps!
Amazing work...
The magneto rotational instability I remember the earlier episode mr Tyson talking about the Higgs felid on that gas the charge particles entangled and spinning so when it’s gets wider n wider the times slows down it’s like a gymnastic spinning on a center point and then the two persons spinning by hands to hand it’s gets less effective to the subject and of course the mass of the gas should to be count on other wise it will go right in to it
Although Gary is not Chuck, he did a fine job of carrying the torch for him.
Incredible!!!
I am curious to know if we could build a craft that could counteract the instability of the new term and somehow balance out the equation
entendres! great discussion gents!
@Neil, I have one question, in a space time fabric (sorry I don't know the exact term) why do we only have time dilation across our universe and not space dilation? How do we exactly know that for eg 1 km on earth will be the same in a far away galaxy?
Interesting to see chill / drunk neil 😂
13:26 NDT just rubbing it in Garry's face😂😂
lovely video!
When does the book come out? I would like to read it
Most awesomely enlightening, no pun intended....
Gary’s power is unmatched