As usual, you have insights that only a pro knows. You explanations are always clear and precise. It took me about one year of getting my toss right and then another half year to get my motion right. I was determined to make it work right and your tips were always helpful. Thank you. On the topic of the B'day hat, I have watched a lot of his videos and almost every serving video, Ryan always talks about the hat trick. My feeling is that if you have to resort to props to learn to serve, you have some serious problems. I think everyone has a different path to learning tennis and I think I was fortunate that it didn't take me that long. I have a reliable kick serve, flat serve and a decent slice. Still working on getting the slice more consistent on hitting that line. But I always love your lessons. Keep making them, you are definitely making a difference in this world.
I love how you explain so deeply how to fix your swing. My coaches only say what I’m doing wrong and don’t really address how to fix errors. These are very valuable tips.
Great video thank you early Racquet drop such a problem for so many players serving two or three levels below the rest of their game Also love the three serve tip video regarding seeve contact point only problem I can see is with the phone booth visual may make some Collapse of hitting elbow into side though your demonstration looks perfect thanks again for the obvious thought and preparation that goes into your videos
WOW Jeff, another great lesson. If I didn't know better I would think you did this for an audience of 1. I mean it was like a private lesson with you it was so spot on. We are lucky to have you doing this. Thank you so much !!!!
I loved that "phone booth" tip best, will try that soon; since you have mentioned Ryan´s bday hat drill on "two minute tennis" you two guys should make a common serve video as you probably have a lot of followers who have subscribed both channels anyway. In that video you can both elaborate your tips and we can go out and practice both. As an intermediate player I have learned a lot from you both so far.
Ryan is a little bit old school. His forehand is a bit too tight (not enough lagging). His lessons are good for club level players. For top juniors, Jeff’s lessons are way better, especially comes to the serves. Jeff’s serve lessons are THE best online lessons. Jeff also has some footwork lessons are very valuable, like $1000/hour tips:).
The ulnar deviation tip is great. Tried this today. I am 76 and just play for fun but this really did make my serve better. I will never have power but it is definitely better! Thank you.
Yes, It's not a laboured mechanical process but rather a relaxed, easily flowing time based, kinetic process.The phone booth, racquet up, is a great analogy. Am Watching Federer tonight at the R.G.French, whose doing just that. Great tip Jeff.. Hats off, I take a bow!
This is brilliant stuff. No one is as informative as you are. You could have your pick of coaching opportunities when it comes to any of the world class players. I wish that you could coach someone like Sloan Stephens. With your advice she could make it to number 1 in the world. She wasting her time and talent with too many inconsistent performances. This tip was kind of the last piece of the puzzle for me. It has really helped. Maybe l can get to Colorado for a 1 on 1 this summer.
Thank you very much Sir. You highlighted most common mistake which I too did. You have very well explained the real technique which I will try hard to learn what you taught us here. 🙏
Great tips as always Jeff! Being a self taught player I am always finding ways to improve my serve. A couple of tweaks incorporating these tips will get my serve to the next level.
Thanks for the reminder of 3/4 drill and the Half serve... I have a kid who drops his racquet too early and working to replace that habit with a better one
Definitely for power, you want your forward motion toward the service line to be in sync with your body turning. Legs do most of this work and the power comes from turning your hips, then waist, then shoulder (because of hips moving) so your arm strength is enhanced so use your arm to generate power. Continental grip is needed for power or pronating either way for spin. In any case, the serve should look the same regardless of slice or power. So yes, as Jeff says start racquet down until you've just started turning.
Thank for this Tip, I tried to modified my serve with the birday hat technique withouu success, so I will use the modifie wrist thecnic in orther to see the results, Many Thanks!
Great tips, Jeff, thank you. I can't wait to try them out. Your videos could be even more helpful by demonstrating the full stroke multiple times throughout. It would put the individual components into context and reinforce them.
Exactly Jeff 1/2 serve The best tip I learned and do all the time. I will send you my serve video soon. Sometimes my arms move up together I stop and shake my arm and do the 1/2 serve using no legs platform stance for 5x. I got complimented on my serve ( I guess on his end of the court it tagged the line sliced or kicked up and caught him off balance alot of times) I told the fellow he should watch your videos.
Getting back into tennis after 25 years. Determined to succeed but the serve is hardest to master. Appreciate and look forward to a consultation in the near future. Been doing a lot of research and the interesting thing was Patrick Moratoglou was recommending a student to drop the racquet head before driving with the legs. I found a helpful meditation to imagine holding an axe and striking an object. Your videos make total sense. Can't wait to get out on the court and test. But its -4 here lol. UK
Fantastic video Jeff. The entire video was useful. I tried the "birthday hat" method but your instruction along with John Craig's are better options for me. He is also against the birthday hat. Thank you.
Honestly this is an amazing video so is your other video about 3 tips or mistakes to avoid in order to prevent the waiters tray... but what i really liked about this video is addressing the birthday hat thing, cuz i saw that video and tried to mimic it without the actual hat. I didn't improve at all and i wanted to know your opinion on this technique. What helped is focusing before anything on my grip on making always a continental grip because if it facing down its wrong from the start. I achieved a 40 to 50 % improvement just by watching that video, and the other thing i liked about this one is the half serve technique. I really can't wait to go try it. When i get it right u guess my serve will be 70% right, with practice I'll get there. Thank you very much
Thanks Jeff... I see a lot of club players dropping the racquet early to decrease the acceleration of the racquet before contact to be able to control the serve more.. I've been struggling with this too.. going to try and work on it !
I really love this video. I have been looking on how to improve my serve since it is not consistent. I really like all the tips you shared. My problem is the toss and the early racquet drop. The tension in my dominant hand is my issue and I was trying to fix it with the b-day hat but it did not work. I like the phone booth concept and I will try it but I know that it will a challenge for me. Thank you very much
Beyond Great! Listen to this man people! Then get out there and practice, practice, practice.... I try to play a game once warmed up. First serve, second serve in equals a point. Change to ad court. If i miss a first serve, it costs me a point and i have to serve two second serves in for two points and get a point each time i do. For me the serve is the anchor to tennis. Having a reliable second serve is nirvana!
Hi Jeff, Thanks for your comments and the solution you provided. I watched my videos many times and i know i have this issue. I'm sure that Using Continental (sometime more open on Slice or Kick) and also using my legs in serve as well with a delay. I tried to fix this issue several times and almost failed. The main issue I faced is the lost my rhythm during this change (drive the legs faster) . my toss goes away, miss hit the ball and contact point and ... it makes me turn back to my original serve motion. would be appreciated if you can give me a solution to not losing the rhythm
Very smart very logical and big big thank you for this video I love it keep doing we need you because you are logical professional guy we know you thank you very much again
I always found that the birthday hat thing worked better if I imagined the tip of the hat to be pointing a bit sideways, toward my left side (I'm a lefty). Your video makes me understand why. Thanks!
@@TennisEvolution could you possible in the future make a video for people like me qho switched arms due to injury and started playing with the other arm? Any general tips or something you think of appropriate. (Have been played for almost 3 years now wig my other arm)
Hi Jeff, which is the right way to stay relax during the serve motion? I lock/hold the breath just before hitting the ball is right? Thank you for your very useful video!
That birthday hat thing was messing me up. The leg drive will make the drop happen naturally if the toss is high enough for the tossing arm to get straight up.
I think you should mention what happens to the non dominant arm. What i notice is that the non dominant arm is rapidly brought down along with the opening of the chest and action of the legs.
This takes a lot of practice to train for muscle memory since our left and right body parts are doing 2 different things. Like learning to ride a bicycle, once you’re able to balance yourself without thinking about it - it becomes more fun and then you can add speed and varying the degree of turns.
Wow great video! I have been ripping apart my serve and I definitely have an early racquet drop. My racquet goes down when my legs go down. My racquet arm was going up too fast. It’s really hard to grove the racquet arm to go up later though. Can I time the racquet arm action to go up with the leg drive down?
My son does his early racquet drop a different way. He has a lot of shoulder external rotation ROM and he externally rotates his shoulder almost 90 degrees before beginning to drive up so that the racquet is face up behind his head. The first drill might help but the other two aren’t likely to help him. We tried the half serve and he still drops it that way.
Knock the parrot off your shoulder??? Haha. Great tips. If we combine all tips around and get our rhythm, it is all worthwhile. Thanks Jeff! Btw...any input in how to fix the overuse of calves when not using thighs? (A tip, besides the obvious...lol)
Wait for the first thing I have to ask is it ok if the racquet drop happens at the same time as the knees go up? Or does it have to be after. And the phone booth part does a bit of supination happen too?
Hi Jeff, i wonder if you could do a detailed 1h bh vid? iv got one, its quite good tbh but im always wondering about contact point with relation to body rotation. Like should it be torso facing 45 defree to the target, or less like 70 degree. And contact point more to the side of the body or front(i tried all variations and none stood out and feel right). I tried watching fed and stan and i just canr figure it out.
You want to aim for a 45 degree in proportion to your contact point. General feel will dictate though that you are a bit earlier when going cross court and a bit late when going straight or down the line.
@@ldeue4837 with aprox 45 degree i feel like im not unwinding enough, and i noticed that its easier to get more topspin when i have around 80 degree angle so my arm has more freedom and space to go up.
@@ldeue4837 wait, if torso should be at aprox 45 degree to the target then it means, my contact point is more in front of my body(in front of torso) instead of the side of where the torso is facing.
@@Invesre Easiest way for me to picture it, is to draw an imaginary line from the middle of my chest to where contact is taking place, the 1 hander will have more extension but you still want to be around a 45 with your body weight going into the ball whenever possible.
What an easy-to-understand approach to decipher the most complicated shot in tennis ! Thank you coach !
Probably the best videos on the serve on UA-cam. Thank you so much coach!
Now here' s someone who really knows what he's talking about. keeping it simple yet cutting edge . valuable content
Thank you, appreciate your valuable feedback.
As usual, you have insights that only a pro knows. You explanations are always clear and precise. It took me about one year of getting my toss right and then another half year to get my motion right. I was determined to make it work right and your tips were always helpful. Thank you. On the topic of the B'day hat, I have watched a lot of his videos and almost every serving video, Ryan always talks about the hat trick. My feeling is that if you have to resort to props to learn to serve, you have some serious problems. I think everyone has a different path to learning tennis and I think I was fortunate that it didn't take me that long. I have a reliable kick serve, flat serve and a decent slice. Still working on getting the slice more consistent on hitting that line. But I always love your lessons. Keep making them, you are definitely making a difference in this world.
Thank you, I appreciate your continuous support Wally!
Love your enthusiasm.
The ulnar deviation and half serve positions to simplify were helpful
That's awesome to hear George! Thank you.
Top top video. Clear and concise! Thanks coach.
You're welcome! Thank you for watching.
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I love that format: show us what’s wrong and how to fix it. Actual examples with students and slow mo video would be helpful as well
Thanks! Appreciate the valuable feedback.
I love how you explain so deeply how to fix your swing. My coaches only say what I’m doing wrong and don’t really address how to fix errors. These are very valuable tips.
What a beautiful video Jeff !! Thank you very much for your time and effort to make better tennis players.
short and simple awesome
Thanks!
👍 good explination & video , cheers
Thank you!
It is a great help to me !! Thank you very mouth !!
You're welcome! Happy to help.
Thanks Jeff. All the tips you mentioned in this video are all great and can really make a big difference in improving the serve. Thanks for sharing.
You’re welcome! Glad to help.
Very good tip and advice Jeff keep it up👍
Thank you, I appreciate your comment.
particularly valuable to me, thank you as much as I can !
Great video thank you early Racquet drop such a problem for so many players serving two or three levels below the rest of their game Also love the three serve tip video regarding seeve contact point
only problem I can see is with the phone booth visual may make some Collapse of hitting elbow into side though your demonstration looks perfect thanks again for the obvious thought and preparation that goes into your videos
You're welcome! Thank you for watching.
Amazing insights on the wrist
WOW Jeff, another great lesson. If I didn't know better I would think you did this for an audience of 1. I mean it was like a private lesson with you it was so spot on. We are lucky to have you doing this. Thank you so much !!!!
You're welcome! I'm glad you enjoyed the lesson.
Amazing....teacher.... congratulations...i Will corrected my serve....i was losing games because i maked doble falts.... thank you..so much
You’re welcome! Glad to help.
Jeff,
Your videos rock. Love how you discredit myths that exist out there.
Thanks! Glad to help ;)
Amazing video master class. Love it
Thanks!
I loved that "phone booth" tip best, will try that soon; since you have mentioned Ryan´s bday hat drill on "two minute tennis" you two guys should make a common serve video as you probably have a lot of followers who have subscribed both channels anyway. In that video you can both elaborate your tips and we can go out and practice both. As an intermediate player I have learned a lot from you both so far.
Ryan is a little bit old school. His forehand is a bit too tight (not enough lagging). His lessons are good for club level players. For top juniors, Jeff’s lessons are way better, especially comes to the serves. Jeff’s serve lessons are THE best online lessons. Jeff also has some footwork lessons are very valuable, like $1000/hour tips:).
Great! Let me know how the phone booth tip works for you. Appreciate your feedback.
@@ericliu2708 Thank you, appreciate your complement.
Will try these tips ;)
Amazing, let me know how it goes!
Thank you for your videos. I'm a 4.0 and I always come back to your videos. Best advice by far of any tennis videos.
The ulnar deviation tip is great. Tried this today. I am 76 and just play for fun but this really did make my serve better. I will never have power but it is definitely better! Thank you.
Awesome, thank you for sharing!
Another FANTASTIC trio of serve tips. All three of them are extremely helpful, and I haven't seen them emphasized by other online coaches. Thanks!
You’re welcome! Glad to help.
Great stuff! Thanks
You’re welcome!
Thanks!
You're welcome! Thank you for watching.
excellent tutorial. I would have liked to see you actually serve using all the information you provided.
Thanks Gary!
Yes, It's not a laboured mechanical process but rather a relaxed, easily flowing time based, kinetic process.The phone booth, racquet up, is a great analogy. Am Watching Federer tonight at the R.G.French, whose doing just that. Great tip Jeff.. Hats off, I take a bow!
You’re welcome, Thank you for the support!
This is brilliant stuff. No one is as informative as you are. You could have your pick of coaching opportunities when it comes to any of the world class players.
I wish that you could coach someone like Sloan Stephens. With your advice she could make it to number 1 in the world. She wasting her time and talent with too many inconsistent performances.
This tip was kind of the last piece of the puzzle for me. It has really helped. Maybe l can get to Colorado for a 1 on 1 this summer.
Thank you 🙏. We are just scratching the surface with the UA-cam videos and with the nuance and details that a world class player could have
Would you individually coach someone like a Sloan Stephens if the offer presented itself?
@@gregoryphillips3969 yes. Depends on player and willingness to learn and attitude
Ulnar deviation in trophy position tip is best!!!
Very good tips Jeff, they change my serve timing!!.thank you very much!!
You're welcome, that's amazing to hear!
Jeff, Great stuff!!!
Wow, amazing video for serve improvment, so clear, so informative..... THANK YOU JEFF
You're welcome, that's awesome to hear!
Great tips Jeff really, I wish I knew this earlier or my tennis coach at least:)
Thank you very much Sir. You highlighted most common mistake which I too did. You have very well explained the real technique which I will try hard to learn what you taught us here. 🙏
You're welcome! Thank you for watching.
Another fantastic and well explained video. Great coaching and one of the best to follow without a doubt!
Thank you Kevin! I appreciate your kind words.
Well done Jeff
Thank you!
Favorite - criticism of knocking the birthday hat offand the reason that may not work. Ulna deviation explained. Great stuff !
Great tips as always Jeff! Being a self taught player I am always finding ways to improve my serve. A couple of tweaks incorporating these tips will get my serve to the next level.
Thanks Ken! Awesome growth mindset, keep it up.
Simple instruction but you made it very very L O N G.
Thank you Benjamin, I appreciate your feedback. It helps us continue to improve.
Thanks for the reminder of 3/4 drill and the Half serve... I have a kid who drops his racquet too early and working to replace that habit with a better one
You're welcome. This drill will definitely help out to fix this issue. Let me know how it goes .
@@TennisEvolution We worked on it a ton yesterday. He is starting to make the connection.
@@CoachDaisha Awesome! Keep it rolling.
So good Jeff! Thanks!
You're welcome!
The way you explain it makes it very clear Jeff! Thumbs up! I got a question: does this tip apply to both 1st (flat) and 2nd (spin) serve? Thank you!
Definitely for power, you want your forward motion toward the service line to be in sync with your body turning. Legs do most of this work and the power comes from turning your hips, then waist, then shoulder (because of hips moving) so your arm strength is enhanced so use your arm to generate power. Continental grip is needed for power or pronating either way for spin. In any case, the serve should look the same regardless of slice or power. So yes, as Jeff says start racquet down until you've just started turning.
Thank for this Tip, I tried to modified my serve with the birday hat technique withouu success, so I will use the modifie wrist thecnic in orther to see the results, Many Thanks!
You’re welcome! Glad to help.
Great tips, Jeff, thank you. I can't wait to try them out. Your videos could be even more helpful by demonstrating the full stroke multiple times throughout. It would put the individual components into context and reinforce them.
Exactly Jeff 1/2 serve
The best tip I learned and do all the time. I will send you my serve video soon.
Sometimes my arms move up together I stop and shake my arm and do the 1/2 serve using no legs platform stance for 5x.
I got complimented on my serve ( I guess on his end of the court it tagged the line sliced or kicked up and caught him off balance alot of times) I told the fellow he should watch your videos.
Awesome, thank you for sharing! Keep it rolling.
Getting back into tennis after 25 years. Determined to succeed but the serve is hardest to master. Appreciate and look forward to a consultation in the near future. Been doing a lot of research and the interesting thing was Patrick Moratoglou was recommending a student to drop the racquet head before driving with the legs. I found a helpful meditation to imagine holding an axe and striking an object. Your videos make total sense. Can't wait to get out on the court and test. But its -4 here lol. UK
love it. phoneboot area. . Thankyou
You’re welcome!
Fantastic video Jeff. The entire video was useful. I tried the "birthday hat" method but your instruction along with John Craig's are better options for me. He is also against the birthday hat. Thank you.
Honestly this is an amazing video so is your other video about 3 tips or mistakes to avoid in order to prevent the waiters tray... but what i really liked about this video is addressing the birthday hat thing, cuz i saw that video and tried to mimic it without the actual hat. I didn't improve at all and i wanted to know your opinion on this technique. What helped is focusing before anything on my grip on making always a continental grip because if it facing down its wrong from the start. I achieved a 40 to 50 % improvement just by watching that video, and the other thing i liked about this one is the half serve technique. I really can't wait to go try it. When i get it right u guess my serve will be 70% right, with practice I'll get there. Thank you very much
You're welcome! Thanks for watching.
Thanks Jeff... I see a lot of club players dropping the racquet early to decrease the acceleration of the racquet before contact to be able to control the serve more.. I've been struggling with this too.. going to try and work on it !
You're welcome! Let me know how it goes.
You are so right!!
Thanks!
Thank you, thank you, thanks, thanks. Waw! “At last” moment for me. Thanks.
You're welcome! Thanks for watching.
Excellent... so informative 👍 .
Thank you!
excellent
Thank you!
Great video!
Thanks!
I really love this video. I have been looking on how to improve my serve since it is not consistent. I really like all the tips you shared. My problem is the toss and the early racquet drop. The tension in my dominant hand is my issue and I was trying to fix it with the b-day hat but it did not work. I like the phone booth concept and I will try it but I know that it will a challenge for me. Thank you very much
You're welcome Luis! Let me know how it went.
I like the phone booth idea; will remember that at practice today.
Awesome!
Keeping racquet head pointing up with soft wrist, thanks
You're welcome! Happy to help.
Beyond Great! Listen to this man people! Then get out there and practice, practice, practice.... I try to play a game once warmed up. First serve, second serve in equals a point. Change to ad court. If i miss a first serve, it costs me a point and i have to serve two second serves in for two points and get a point each time i do. For me the serve is the anchor to tennis. Having a reliable second serve is nirvana!
Thank you, appreciate your nice comment!
Great to hear about your explanation on 'Birthday Hat'!
Thanks!
I will try the technique
Hi Jeff, Thanks for your comments and the solution you provided.
I watched my videos many times and i know i have this issue. I'm sure that Using Continental (sometime more open on Slice or Kick) and also using my legs in serve as well with a delay. I tried to fix this issue several times and almost failed.
The main issue I faced is the lost my rhythm during this change (drive the legs faster) . my toss goes away, miss hit the ball and contact point and ... it makes me turn back to my original serve motion. would be appreciated if you can give me a solution to not losing the rhythm
Awesome 👏
Very smart very logical and big big thank you for this video I love it keep doing we need you because you are logical professional guy we know you thank you very much again
You’re welcome, Thank you for the nice comment.
Nice Tip Jeff
Thanks!
Wow, today a coach pointed out exact the same problem I have, dropping the dominant arm too early.
That's awesome!
Brill vids Jeff
Thanks!
Great advise !!!
Thanks!
I'm not a natural server at all and I really appreciate these details.
You're welcome! These tips will help you improve it ;)
Thanks so much！
You're welcome!
I would have like to have seen a few more actual serves (one of the few was interrupted by a freaking ad). But thanks for the good info.
You're welcome, thanks for the feedback.
I always found that the birthday hat thing worked better if I imagined the tip of the hat to be pointing a bit sideways, toward my left side (I'm a lefty). Your video makes me understand why. Thanks!
You're welcome! Happy to help.
Great point about birthday hat, I had a coach tell me that but I caused more issues than fixes, have tried your way and much better
Great to hear!
Spectacular
Thank you!
@@TennisEvolution could you possible in the future make a video for people like me qho switched arms due to injury and started playing with the other arm? Any general tips or something you think of appropriate. (Have been played for almost 3 years now wig my other arm)
Hi Jeff, which is the right way to stay relax during the serve motion? I lock/hold the breath just before hitting the ball is right? Thank you for your very useful video!
That birthday hat thing was messing me up. The leg drive will make the drop happen naturally if the toss is high enough for the tossing arm to get straight up.
Right. I videotaped myself doing that and form was just jacked up. Going to try this approach. Looks promising
Great self awareness, now you know how to fix it ;)
@@bmanbusee3812 Amazing, let me know how it went!
@@TennisEvolution work in progress but getting there. How high should your shoulder/elbow be holding the racquet when starting your swing? Thanks
@@bmanbusee3812 I am not sure what you mean
Nice
Thanks!
For the half serve drill it looks like a version of the party hat. I think the two approaches are just slight variations
I think you should mention what happens to the non dominant arm. What i notice is that the non dominant arm is rapidly brought down along with the opening of the chest and action of the legs.
This takes a lot of practice to train for muscle memory since our left and right body parts are doing 2 different things. Like learning to ride a bicycle, once you’re able to balance yourself without thinking about it - it becomes more fun and then you can add speed and varying the degree of turns.
Wow great video! I have been ripping apart my serve and I definitely have an early racquet drop. My racquet goes down when my legs go down. My racquet arm was going up too fast. It’s really hard to grove the racquet arm to go up later though. Can I time the racquet arm action to go up with the leg drive down?
My son does his early racquet drop a different way. He has a lot of shoulder external rotation ROM and he externally rotates his shoulder almost 90 degrees before beginning to drive up so that the racquet is face up behind his head. The first drill might help but the other two aren’t likely to help him. We tried the half serve and he still drops it that way.
Hi Jeff
Will you be doing any Zoom
Calls in the near future?
I dare not hit the second serve. I'm afraid of mistakes. Can you tell me how can I solve it? Please
Check this video out Khant! ua-cam.com/video/PxtGH7JxNMI/v-deo.html
Let me know how it goes!
Knock the parrot off your shoulder??? Haha. Great tips. If we combine all tips around and get our rhythm, it is all worthwhile. Thanks Jeff!
Btw...any input in how to fix the overuse of calves when not using thighs? (A tip, besides the obvious...lol)
You're welcome!
I would have liked to see more demos in slow motion, butt I think the message was really good.
Thanks! I appreciate your feedback.
I also would like to see in slow motion stopping at key points
@@ashbow3806 Thank you, I appreciate your feedback and will add your request for future videos.
I have continental grip but change to forehand grip when in trophy position. How to stop this?
OG undefeated pro tip....
Great tip. 😂
Wait for the first thing I have to ask is it ok if the racquet drop happens at the same time as the knees go up? Or does it have to be after. And the phone booth part does a bit of supination happen too?
Yes
Pure Drive with hyper g?
Yes!
Hi Jeff, i wonder if you could do a detailed 1h bh vid? iv got one, its quite good tbh but im always wondering about contact point with relation to body rotation. Like should it be torso facing 45 defree to the target, or less like 70 degree. And contact point more to the side of the body or front(i tried all variations and none stood out and feel right). I tried watching fed and stan and i just canr figure it out.
You want to aim for a 45 degree in proportion to your contact point. General feel will dictate though that you are a bit earlier when going cross court and a bit late when going straight or down the line.
also where you hit the ball matters.....top bottom outside inside...
@@ldeue4837 with aprox 45 degree i feel like im not unwinding enough, and i noticed that its easier to get more topspin when i have around 80 degree angle so my arm has more freedom and space to go up.
@@ldeue4837 wait, if torso should be at aprox 45 degree to the target then it means, my contact point is more in front of my body(in front of torso) instead of the side of where the torso is facing.
@@Invesre Easiest way for me to picture it, is to draw an imaginary line from the middle of my chest to where contact is taking place, the 1 hander will have more extension but you still want to be around a 45 with your body weight going into the ball whenever possible.
Favorite tip: ULNAR DEVIATION!!!!!!!!
Love it!
I have a strong continental grip. I wish that I was taught how to serve properly when I was a teenager.
That's awesome! It's never too late for learning and improving ;)
I like you because you actually played on the atp world tour
Thank you!