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AvE my apologies for button in, how are you both doing AvE and Tony? I recently picked up and old SKIL SHER 5/16 POWER MATE DRILL, I'm not too good with the interwebs, and don't wish to break my girlfriend's computer either!!!! I'm asking for a little bit of help, is it worth restoring to it's original Glory???? to put on my bar as it's a drill my grandfather probably used back before my time the 80's, CAT number 33, 240 VOLTS AC, 1.75 AMP, 2500 RPM, APP number V/UU, made in Australia, thank you for your time it has been muchly appreciated
This Old Tony my dad gave me his. in the UK the chuck had a little eccentric on the back. you lined up 2 dots on the cam hand tightened the sleeve and the pinched it up with the allen key. neat.
AvE is the realest shmootuber we will ever see. The fact that he decides to remain anonymous speaks serious levels as to his complete lack of any narcissistic taint after gaining a large internet following by literally doing the complete opposite of what the other "tool porn" channels do here.
I've had this thought many of times, I think I got on board at around 120k subs or so and today noticed he's at half a mil and I think the only tuber to have ever existed where the supposed "been here since 1k" subs don't bitch about the quality of content having gone down hill over time simply because it hasn't. I enjoy every BOLTR I watch just as much as the first one I ever came across. I'm not sure whether AvE was born with a hammer head miners wrench in his hand and raised on bowls of cuntstain tongueglide nails for breakfast, but I'm starting to believe it after some of the suicidal 2 car garage experiments he's walked away from without a scratch.
I have a B&D drill of the same era that I bought while I was in high school. 1971? It was my first power tool. I've used it when it was so hot you needed to wear gloves to hold it. 46 years later it's still going strong. I used it last week.
Leave it out in the sun all morning. Bring it inside. Ask apprentice to hand you the drill. Laugh while he shrieks like a girl with burnt hands. Mine has the aluminium handle too. Still have the matching circular saw. Can’t kill em both 👍
Green is a chemical reaction between the grease and the brass or bronze bushing material, but only in the places water was able to reach in use. That pale yellowish grease is the original B&D grease, a pretty good lithium soap that is very long lasting. The brazed thing is either a PTC thermistor or more likely a soft brazed in diode, just to either give full pixies or only half, which for a drill is half speed when running on DC.
Can confirm, the grease inside my B&D hasn't gone wonkey. Old tools are great work horses. And if you pet them, clean them, keep the stable happy, they will serve you, your kids, their kids etc. My oldest all metal tool was my grandada's. It's a first generation Skill saw. Still works like new, with just brushes and bearings changed. Sometimes it's nostalgia, but when you heft a big lumpa metal to drill, cut, grind something, you know it's quality. They hadn't learned to cheat us out of our money then. IMO it's like the old axe head story in medieval times. One such axe head would be worth an entire family's coin, and it would be passed to son and son until nothing but the stem was left.
I have one of the old skil saws as well from my grandfather. Took it apart, cleaned out the saw dust, new set of brushes. Perfect. Bearings were fine. Used it last weekend to cut some wood.
With the flip down tail guard one little kickback and it was by by fingers. You could beat the crap out of those saws and the kept on going. An expensive and cherished tool for the day.
Yessir I did, you might see a preview of that today. Can't wait for the funny looks I get around town. No prob on the thing, gonna work on it this weekend.
This video reminded me of the B&D circular saw I have that was my dads. It's body is all aluminum and it come in an orange metal case. He bought it from Western Auto when he was 18 years old while helping the church put on a new roof. I still use it to this day when I need to cut some wood.
Really wish I could send you some of the oldschool, communist era Bulgarian-made tools everyone seems to have in their village houses, however A) A lot of them are still in use B) It'll cost my country's GDP to mail them
Just watched this, find the ending undignified. Lacks respect for the craftsmanship that went into that old tool, almost by your own words at the start. At the very least you could have donated that drill to a local school. Pfui! as the Austrians say here
Had to set up a gas inlet for a bomb calorimeter the other day in the lab. The guy manning the old school, drop-forged steel wrench described it as "skookum" before a discussion of the modern consumer tool industry ensued -- heavily laced with AvE jargon. Thanks for bringing shop-talk back in style for us younger guys.
You're killin' me! You SHOULD HAVE fixed the trigger switch and put 'er into the AvE Hall of Posterity! Original Case, instructions and even the Bits - she didn't deserve a smokin' SHAME SHAME!!!!!
Why destroy it? This seemed to be in quite good order and well made. I've met with many drills of this pattern and they were all good, and certainly built better than anything out there today.
thats what I thought I have a high/low dimmer switch for a lightbulb and it just has a diode Its a nice simple way for a bit of speed control and not much to go wrong in it if the diode goes short full speed open no speed
Good thing they dont use that circuit for dimming things like heaters because that would end with a weird ac waveform in your mains one side of the sine wave will be bigger than the other
for a heater you could have two separate heaters, each with half the power. When you're running at half speed one heater gets one half of the waveform, and the other gets the other half - then whatever unspeakable things it does to your power factor ought to balance out
I have a variable-speed reversing version of this drill. Exactly the same motor and gearing and body, but the trigger is a triac speed control, and there is a reversing switch built into the rear edge of the handle near where the cord enters. Speed is rated 0-1000 RPM. Bought new from Canadian Tire about 1977. Last time I tried to use it, it didn't run. The grease had separated, the oil ran everywhere including into the brush holders, and then turned into glue. So the brushes were stuck and no power made it to the commutator. After cleaning out the gunk with solvent and assembling with new grease, it runs like new. (And if I had replaced the grease 20 years ago, when I saw signs of it starting to separate, the solvent cleaning wouldn't have been needed this year). It's not a wonderful drill. At least one of the gears isn't quite concentric with its shaft, and the gear mesh alternates from tight to loose as the gear rotates. It requires fiddling when reassembling the gear case to avoid binding, and you can hear the change in clearance as it rotates. It has always been like this. But I've got to give B&D credit for building a drill that has survived 40 years including being dropped a couple of times.
Saw another one of these drills in Value Village the other day. Variable speed reversible, same as mine. It still ran, though the speed control didn't work very well any more. And it also has the same sound from the changing clearance between gears. This one was a lot more beat up than mine externally, but still alive.
They used to use a diode to halve motor speed, usually selenium or later PN silicon. they even used them with shaded pole motors to halve speed in things like fans by effectively chopping wave form in half. Rough but effective
I don't really like it when someone destroy a working tool or destroy it instead of fixing it. Say what you will about that. It's like burning a book, a totally useless act...
@billy vandory yeah and nazis can do what they want with jews, white with slaves, their own property. bullshits. videos like this are quite disgusting and should be banned, cause they're inappropriate especially for younger people. we're in a fucking consumistic era and the message here is destroy not preserve, with no respect for older things and not teaching kids to have skills but becoming vandals. no this video is very very bad.
The two speed is achieved by powering one or both sets of windings in the armature ,hence the four wire set up ,two for each winding . the brazed component is a combination high /low filter to suppress rf feedback into power supply grid :)
I grew up in the northwest suburbs of Chicago, Capitalistan in the 70's. It wasn't a B&D but of similar construction. In a semi-finished basement with a bare, painted concrete floor I learned not to use that drill with bare feet. Picture the cartoon image of a character with limbs outstretched glowing over the skeleton. Thank you Tex Avery and Chuck Jones.
I've got a 1958 B&D all aluminum single speed, 1000 RPM, with a 1/4" chuck. Still works OK, use it with a wire brush to clean crud. Only replaced the power cord and the chuck over all this time.
That same drill motor/gearbox was/is used on Westinghouse (later Cutler-Hammer and now Eaton) DS circuit breakers as a charge motor. Those motors and gearbox are nearly indestructible.
My wife bought me one of these on our first Christmas together in 1973. Mine had a reverse and two speed. Still have it, only change is a new cord. Also had a really cool mounting stand that functioned as a drill press. Good stuff. No longer the go to drill, but still works.
Someone else has probably said it, but the old B and D drills could be mounted in a stand and be used as a grinder or buffing wheel, so it needed the button to lock the switch in the "on" position. I've got my dad's all metal version from the fifties, metal gearbox and plastic body version from the seventies, and all plastic body version from the eighties, and they all had provision for mounting in a stand.
What a sin! Burned up a useful dill for shits & grins :-( I would love to find that style B&D drill at a flea market or garage sale. I have a neat little bench drill press attachment for that style B&D. It mounts the drill by a bracket that slips over the top 2 filister head screws at the chuck end of the drill and the rear of the drill was held by a deep setscrew like socket over the top screw in the handle. I bought it new amost 50 years ago. Wore out 4 or more drills with it. Unfortunately that model drill got dicontinued in the mid 70's. Now the little press hides under a bench without a drill for it. Too neat a tool wth many fond memories of the many things I build with it in my 20's and 30's to throw away.
I have the single speed 1/4 inch chuck version of that drill, handed down by my grandfather (I'm 59), and it has an all-metal chuck. Seeing what looks like a part plastic chuck on your example, and slightly-hooped chuck key, my guess is that yours has a replacement chuck, hence the modern green schmoo. I did not enjoy seeing that thing get smoked.
I still have that drill. I am 59 and it was my dad's drill before that. The last big job it did and I had to stop due to a burning smell but no smoke and it still runs. I used it to drive 500 screws into two 3/4 inch thick plywood sheets so I could tile my front hallway. No very powerful but a workhorse around the house.
My dad's got one (maybe more) similar to this still kicking around (just the drill though). He's had it since I was young. He still uses it too. The thing just keeps on choochin'. Junk 3/8" chuck (one wonky jaw for extra style points)...check; chewy chuck key...check; no reverse...check. Corntact!
A similar B&D was my first power tool, bought in 1971. It served me well for decades. When using it as a sander it would get too hot to hold, but was always ready for more after a cool down. I accumulated other sanders and drills, but kept that old guy around for little jobs. On one of those small jobs, just a few years ago, his smoke finally came out. Kind of hard to watch his younger brother mercilessly tortured and executed.
Seeing that drill brought me back to when i Borrowed my Grandfather's Black&Decker drill. The metal body, the broken ground... the tingling sensation when you used it. I still have my Dad's metal body reciprocating saw, as well as his all steel, powered planer. These must be badly grounded since I've acquired a fear of using them and bought newer insulated ones. Thanks for your humorous franglophony (I'm originally from Québec). Keep Skookum.
I have several of these drills and they are still working. Tough old blisters. If you have no further use for that one I could use it as spare parts, The plastic part of the handle seems to be the most fragile piece. It just doesn't stand up to the repeated trips onto the concrete floor in 35 years of service. I would be willing to purchase it and pay shipping. Tom
This is a woodworking drill; it doesn't have reverse. The "unknown device" in the switch is a diode; it reduces speed/torque by essentially cutting the bottom half off the AC waveform. Think of it as a poor man's PWM. ;) As you can imagine, inductive reactance when switching from half-wave to full-wave is quite high under load; hence the arc-burns on the contacts you were talking about. I had a similar B&D VSR drill (maybe older, but used the same motor/transmission) I inherited from my grand-dad; it survived 30 years (with occasional regrease and new brushes still available from Jandorff/Ace Hardware) of frequent use in a jig for drilling pipe before the pinion portion of the motor shaft wore out. I'd bet you a dollar if you went back to it after it cooled down it would still work. :D
You know, one of the oldest tools in my family is a drill of this vintage. The dang thing can noot be kilt no matter what has been done to it over the years. The dang thing built a house and did 1000 diy diddly jobs. I mean I know... who wants to use a corded AC drill at all anymore but damn when all the batteries are dead and the fancy drills are lost somewhere or you're waiting 20 minutes to get a charge on you grab the 40 year old "POS" out of the far back part of the tool drawer and pull the trigger on good ol' AC current and suddenly you don't think the crappy old drill is so crappy anymore. It gets the dang job done with authority... while making enough noise to wake the whole block. The particular sack-of-gravel scream they make is just nostalgic.
I have and still use a similar version but it is variable speed. It was a replacement for the same drill that had a dramatic demise. I was using a speedbore type bit drilling holes to run wiring. The sharp point at the centre of the bit was threaded to pull the bit through. I had done many holes and the drill was getting hot but being a rank novice, I kept going.Big mistake, the handle let go, it having ripped from the two long screws that connected to the case giving a helluva big electric flash in the air as the handle ripped completely off the case leaving me with two distinct pieces. I decided I should not load up the replacement drlll the same way.
While I agree that destroying good tools is a shame, I didn't feel much for this one. These primitive single-speed forward-only drills really aren't good for much (not to mention actually quite ugly). The recycled metal could be used for better things.
Just got a Black and Decker impact wrench, 7.7amp, a 6511 type 3 (last one made in Jan 1977), 240lb-ft of torque rated, ten buxs well spent. Still runs super smooth (was probably only used twice a year to change tires). I call her 'Ol Sparky, on account the last guy put the brushes in sideways! Would have been fine when new, but now hat they are worn down to a crescent moon shape, the can make contact with more than one commutator bar at once, so sparking around the brushes, especially when you suddenly switch between forward and reverse. Fortunately, they still make the many of the parts, so currently waiting on new brushes/holders/springs, and the plastic cap that disintegrated when I took out the brushes to have a look see. I have enough access to clean off the commutator with a qutip and get my scalpel in there to ensure no contact between any of the bars (Doesn't appear to be any though). Waiting on new parts, about $15, so I'm only in it for 25 Canadian pesos. I think I need 2 screws though, looks like they were on the back to help keep bushing assembly in place. Jelly bean part, so no biggie. Tried to take it apart (I know, if it ain't broke....), but figured I could put in some new better modern grease and a good cleaning. . Well a good bit of janky resistance early on changed my mind. Once I fuck it, I'll give her a go I guess. Heres the official service guide: servicenet.blackanddecker.com/Products/Detail/6511 ANy ideas on a good way to recondition it? Anyone? Still, its amazing to me that several of the components (including brush assemblies) are still used in modern tools!, which works perfect for me. Anyway, love old tools, they make me happy. That and any knife made in Sheffiend a long time ago :) Thanks fof the videos, have a good one eh, Peace
Wow, the ending there I felt myself going back to watching Braveheart to the scene where William's getting pulled apart and getting his guts all scrambled and the crowds yellin' "Mercy! MERCY!" and now I just feel sad. It's all fun and games funkin around in the shop until someone intentionally tortures a good tool to death....
So, if I happened to have a really old Russian/Ukraine equivalent from back when I was a lot, something something, where would I ship such an object, prey tell o dear Overlord AvE?
Love it! My dad told me the same thing. "What's problem with a little shock?" Every time I pulled the trigger on that all metal craftsman circular saw, it shocked me. No wonder he had me build everything starting at age nine, fences, sheds, decks. Sadistic old bastard!
Cause of these videos, when I let the smoke out of one of my tools, the first thing I do is grab my screwdrivers and open her up, gave me the confidence to at least look if I can put the smoke back in, and I’ll say I’ve had great success!! I’ve rebuilt my drill using ten dollar brushes and found a local to turn my commutators, and now shifting thoughts to older more serviceable tools, plus some tools new when needed.
My dad still has a old drill he uses from the 50's I nicknamed the wrist breaker when I was a kid. Also I never seen a Jacobs key for the chuck it's always been a Phillips head jammed in the hole a flathead levered against it to tighten it. Man I love this channel even though I have no clue what y'all are talking about most of the time.
Your vijayos are quite skookum, and are never filled with schmoo. Thank you for all that you do. It's great to see your personality shine through on all of your videos. My best friend and I used to tear apart old electronics to try to learn about them. If it had a motor in it, we'd tear it out and hook them straight to batteries to make them chooch violently, and this reminds me of those days.
Funny story about the Robertsons....my grandparents had a cabin in Canada, and their high security door lock was what they thought were cutting edge technology--"square drive" screws. (This is in the late 80's.) They said, "What's the chance someone in Canada will have one of these?" My Grandpa was absolutely pissed when one spring he opened up the dock house and found a $20 next to an emptied gas can, with the door still screwed tightly shut. It's funny, because...Canadians invented the "square drive" (i.e. Robertson)....and he didn't ever figure it out...he thought he was being clever, but he played into their hands! And happily, that snowmobile-ist was presumably able to safely return to civilization, thanks to my grandpa's particularly Canadian accessible fuel depot.
That round brush space is a simple but great dynamic brush holder, it'll hold it tight,(round) for cheap making tight fitting, and it'll allow the brushes to bind less being able to twist with torque on those far commutator bars. Sexy!
It takes me back to the early '80s when I was apprenticing at the local Honda shop . I had the variable speed version of that drill that I got off my dad . De-glazed many a dirt bike cylinder in the parts washer with one of those . Really brought the memories back . Miss my old dad I do .
Back in the day long about 1985 or so--just as Makita was getting big as THE pro brand of tools--I asked my boss, who ran the University Art Dept. wood shop, what drill/screwgun should I buy. His response, "just don't get anything orange..." (still remember those Makita girl posters - long ago banished to PC purgatory)
my dad has an old Milwaukee drill, 3/8 chuck, same arrangement as this one, all metal except the handle. He's rebuilt it a couple times and replaced the switch a few times, but has had it since i believe the late 70's early 80's. I, myself have driven probably 1000 drywall screws with it and who know's how many he has. They don't make em like that shit anymore for sure.
i believe the green schmoo on the gears is just assembly lube and the other stuff was squirted in after assembly to serve as the proper gear grease. i've taken lots of these drills apart and they are almost always packed full of grease like that.
Just got my hands on a 1960 d500 black and decker drill, pulled the trigger and she screamed like a banshee so I knew something was off. She was absolutely packed with shmoo and a lot had hardeded. Gave her a very good clean out and she runs like a watch. Since I know it will last forever, time for another 60 years service😂
I have the exact same drill and it works. My daughter was driving down the street and saw a guy put out a bunch of tool with a "FREE" sign so she loaded them in her car. (Smart girl, knows me well ). Along with this drill came a beautiful 1950's 2 draw tool box, a battery terminal puller, some plumbing tools. Of course my first thought was "Check out this drill. Let's see if it kills me" lol.
We've had one of those drills in the family for at least 50 years. It's loose, it squalls like fury, but it still goes. It drilled a lot of holes in Missouri native oak framing that was put up green, stuff that only the best with a hammer could drive a nail into without bending it. If you got stuck with a job that required the use of a drill sanding pad or grinding stone, that was the drill to use because it had the rpm's for it. Well, you had a better chance of getting results, anyway, instead of just turning the stone into a pile of dust.
To AvE . i see a huge increse of subscribers or views in the future. in all the video's i watch there is a refrence to AvE or in the comment section. fuckning love this channel been here for a wile and love the progression this channel have had. srry for bad english. Peace out
The added grease functions a heat absorber and dissipater. When you remove grease like that you are affecting its ability to dissipate heat. That increased heat will break down the viscosity of the grease.
I have inherited almost exactly the same model, but 220V and one-speed only (black trigger). It has been in the family since my dad bought it in the mid 60´s and has drilled a zillion holes: almost all furniture for three houses, plenty of metalwork (sheet and stock) and hundreds of brick wall holes and general fixing of broken things. Regularly cleaned and lubed, it is still in pristine condition (bushings, gears and roller bearings still original, only carbon brushes replaced a number of times). Cons: the 3/8" chuck is useful only up to 1/4" bits; body starts to get hot if used for a moderately long time without a pause. Am still using it these days to help build a new kitchen furniture. I liked most of the review, but It was a pity in the end to look at such a noble servant twitching under an undeserved torture. I guess the soul of the poor drill (as good machines do have a soul) is now in machine heaven.
that drill brought me back.. smiles ear to ear. had to avert my eyes at the end. squeemish.
Just about time you introduced your lad to the wonders of electrocity, no? It's only abuse if it's "intentional".
Next-Week-On-ThisOldTony:
"How To! Pick up the pieces after your entire house burns to the ground."
bonus material: "11 mind blowing novel uses for those sprinkler heads that didn't work"
AvE my apologies for button in, how are you both doing AvE and Tony? I recently picked up and old SKIL SHER 5/16 POWER MATE DRILL, I'm not too good with the interwebs, and don't wish to break my girlfriend's computer either!!!! I'm asking for a little bit of help, is it worth restoring to it's original Glory???? to put on my bar as it's a drill my grandfather probably used back before my time the 80's, CAT number 33, 240 VOLTS AC, 1.75 AMP, 2500 RPM, APP number V/UU, made in Australia, thank you for your time it has been muchly appreciated
This Old Tony my dad gave me his.
in the UK the chuck had a little eccentric on the back.
you lined up 2 dots on the cam hand tightened the sleeve and the pinched it up with the allen key.
neat.
the problem is you didn't put water on the sponge
AvE is the realest shmootuber we will ever see.
The fact that he decides to remain anonymous speaks serious levels as to his complete lack of any narcissistic taint after gaining a large internet following by literally doing the complete opposite of what the other "tool porn" channels do here.
I always imagine him to look like Ricky from trailer park boys when he speaks.
I've had this thought many of times, I think I got on board at around 120k subs or so and today noticed he's at half a mil and I think the only tuber to have ever existed where the supposed "been here since 1k" subs don't bitch about the quality of content having gone down hill over time simply because it hasn't. I enjoy every BOLTR I watch just as much as the first one I ever came across.
I'm not sure whether AvE was born with a hammer head miners wrench in his hand and raised on bowls of cuntstain tongueglide nails for breakfast, but I'm starting to believe it after some of the suicidal 2 car garage experiments he's walked away from without a scratch.
I have a B&D drill of the same era that I bought while I was in high school. 1971? It was my first power tool. I've used it when it was so hot you needed to wear gloves to hold it. 46 years later it's still going strong. I used it last week.
Leave it out in the sun all morning. Bring it inside. Ask apprentice to hand you the drill. Laugh while he shrieks like a girl with burnt hands.
Mine has the aluminium handle too. Still have the matching circular saw. Can’t kill em both 👍
@ Jack Paulson Awesome I cant keep from losing set of car keys for more then a few years that is phenomenal man
@ jack Paulson
Green is a chemical reaction between the grease and the brass or bronze bushing material, but only in the places water was able to reach in use. That pale yellowish grease is the original B&D grease, a pretty good lithium soap that is very long lasting.
The brazed thing is either a PTC thermistor or more likely a soft brazed in diode, just to either give full pixies or only half, which for a drill is half speed when running on DC.
Can confirm, the grease inside my B&D hasn't gone wonkey. Old tools are great work horses. And if you pet them, clean them, keep the stable happy, they will serve you, your kids, their kids etc. My oldest all metal tool was my grandada's. It's a first generation Skill saw. Still works like new, with just brushes and bearings changed.
Sometimes it's nostalgia, but when you heft a big lumpa metal to drill, cut, grind something, you know it's quality. They hadn't learned to cheat us out of our money then.
IMO it's like the old axe head story in medieval times. One such axe head would be worth an entire family's coin, and it would be passed to son and son until nothing but the stem was left.
Also, AvE SHAME ON YOU, AND YOUR FAMIRY. SHAME SHAME SHAME. How could you, Kanukistan entrusted you with that drill, and you smoked it like a vaper.
I have one of the old skil saws as well from my grandfather. Took it apart, cleaned out the saw dust, new set of brushes. Perfect. Bearings were fine. Used it last weekend to cut some wood.
I got over the nostalgia the moment I started buying quality tools, plus I swear all are new stuff is designed to remind me of transformers!
Them there saws was a great way to build up your arm. I do mean singular.
With the flip down tail guard one little kickback and it was by by fingers. You could beat the crap out of those saws and the kept on going. An expensive and cherished tool for the day.
I made it in early, just getting some coffee and seeing what's on the tube. None other then my man!
Morning Adam! This Old Tony wanted me to remind you of that thing, for the thing. Also, did you get your shop rag in the mail yet?
Yessir I did, you might see a preview of that today. Can't wait for the funny looks I get around town. No prob on the thing, gonna work on it this weekend.
mine here has the same cheapo chucko
Well this and a coffee sure beats getting off my best intentions and actually using a drill.
This video reminded me of the B&D circular saw I have that was my dads. It's body is all aluminum and it come in an orange metal case. He bought it from Western Auto when he was 18 years old while helping the church put on a new roof. I still use it to this day when I need to cut some wood.
Really wish I could send you some of the oldschool, communist era Bulgarian-made tools everyone seems to have in their village houses, however
A) A lot of them are still in use
B) It'll cost my country's GDP to mail them
Just watched this, find the ending undignified. Lacks respect for the craftsmanship that went into that old tool, almost by your own words at the start. At the very least you could have donated that drill to a local school. Pfui! as the Austrians say here
Had to set up a gas inlet for a bomb calorimeter the other day in the lab. The guy manning the old school, drop-forged steel wrench described it as "skookum" before a discussion of the modern consumer tool industry ensued -- heavily laced with AvE jargon. Thanks for bringing shop-talk back in style for us younger guys.
I hate when he kills old tools
I can't believe you dishonoured that old warrior with such a pointless death! Infidel!
Rest in pieces pecker wrecker.
Rust in pieces slappin' pecker.
Chuck G rut in peas weaner picker
Chief Slappin' Pecker of the Bumblefuck tribe will join his family in the Great Job Shop in the Sky, as did his proud ancestors before him.
We get it you vape. Ehhhh.
Crust n pieces sack n pecker
"They don't make 'em like this anymore!"
"LET'S KILL IT!"
that's how vintage equipment goes extinct.
And a good thing too! Rubbish drills!
Back when Black and Decker made good tools and not "a few holes a year" household drills.
You're killin' me! You SHOULD HAVE fixed the trigger switch and put 'er into the AvE Hall of Posterity! Original Case, instructions and even the Bits - she didn't deserve a smokin' SHAME SHAME!!!!!
@@EliotGH Totally agree...
@@EliotGH you have the right name at least
Why destroy it? This seemed to be in quite good order and well made. I've met with many drills of this pattern and they were all good, and certainly built better than anything out there today.
The poor little thing. Convulsing laying their. Tortured by pixies. Evil.
Don't destroy tools.. that poor thingy just needed other switch... :(
it's probably a diode, not a resister.
thats what I thought I have a high/low dimmer switch for a lightbulb and it just has a diode Its a nice simple way for a bit of speed control and not much to go wrong in it if the diode goes short full speed open no speed
definitely a diode. half wave rectification. easy way to turn a clean 120v rms into a dirty as fuck 60v rms with out much power dissipation
Good thing they dont use that circuit for dimming things like heaters because that would end with a weird ac waveform in your mains one side of the sine wave will be bigger than the other
for a heater you could have two separate heaters, each with half the power. When you're running at half speed one heater gets one half of the waveform, and the other gets the other half - then whatever unspeakable things it does to your power factor ought to balance out
Tripp Williamson j
Just sat on the toilet for twenty minutes. Damn you AvE, my legs are numb!
.. and I went soft at the end.
I miss photonic induction. this was a great little throwback.
It reminded me of him straight away.
What do you mean? Last video from him was 4 months ago
Yes, 4 months. That's an awfully long time, no?
Its the 50/60Hz (lotsa' amps) hum ;)
did he quit uploading or something?
I have a variable-speed reversing version of this drill. Exactly the same motor and gearing and body, but the trigger is a triac speed control, and there is a reversing switch built into the rear edge of the handle near where the cord enters. Speed is rated 0-1000 RPM. Bought new from Canadian Tire about 1977.
Last time I tried to use it, it didn't run. The grease had separated, the oil ran everywhere including into the brush holders, and then turned into glue. So the brushes were stuck and no power made it to the commutator. After cleaning out the gunk with solvent and assembling with new grease, it runs like new. (And if I had replaced the grease 20 years ago, when I saw signs of it starting to separate, the solvent cleaning wouldn't have been needed this year).
It's not a wonderful drill. At least one of the gears isn't quite concentric with its shaft, and the gear mesh alternates from tight to loose as the gear rotates. It requires fiddling when reassembling the gear case to avoid binding, and you can hear the change in clearance as it rotates. It has always been like this.
But I've got to give B&D credit for building a drill that has survived 40 years including being dropped a couple of times.
Saw another one of these drills in Value Village the other day. Variable speed reversible, same as mine. It still ran, though the speed control didn't work very well any more. And it also has the same sound from the changing clearance between gears. This one was a lot more beat up than mine externally, but still alive.
Why you keep breaking the toys, eh?
Hi Harold! Because fun.
P.S. those Canadistani lessons are really paying off!
They aren't being broken, that's just the magic smoke being vented.
That's just how you "season" the brushes. Works better afterwards.
I think it uses a diode for two speeds. Full ac and semi rectified current. It is a common method used in universal motors.
Some of the older 2 speed drills I took apart used a diode to give a slower speed.
They used to use a diode to halve motor speed, usually selenium or later PN silicon. they even used them with shaded pole motors to halve speed in things like fans by effectively chopping wave form in half. Rough but effective
I don't really like it when someone destroy a working tool or destroy it instead of fixing it. Say what you will about that. It's like burning a book, a totally useless act...
manwiththestar books put out a fair amount of heat when set ablaze...
Somewhere around 451 foreign heights, eh?
There are uses for testing the working limits of a tool. I'm certain your boss has asked you to work late a time or two.
yeah man this video in bad. destroy a modern thing instead not a historical tool, this kind of stuff makes me sad.
@billy vandory yeah and nazis can do what they want with jews, white with slaves, their own property. bullshits. videos like this are quite disgusting and should be banned, cause they're inappropriate especially for younger people. we're in a fucking consumistic era and the message here is destroy not preserve, with no respect for older things and not teaching kids to have skills but becoming vandals. no this video is very very bad.
The two speed is achieved by powering one or both sets of windings in the armature ,hence the four wire set up ,two for each winding . the brazed component is a combination high /low filter to suppress rf feedback into power supply grid :)
Kind of a shame. that drill was still better than anything you can get at harbour freight. Oh and p sure that was a diode.
I grew up in the northwest suburbs of Chicago, Capitalistan in the 70's.
It wasn't a B&D but of similar construction. In a semi-finished basement with a bare, painted concrete floor I learned not to use that drill with bare feet.
Picture the cartoon image of a character with limbs outstretched glowing over the skeleton.
Thank you Tex Avery and Chuck Jones.
She was one to keep judging by the fight she put up.
I've got a 1958 B&D all aluminum single speed, 1000 RPM, with a 1/4" chuck. Still works OK, use it with a wire brush to clean crud. Only replaced the power cord and the chuck over all this time.
This is just abuse.
No, the SWITCH was dead.
He broke the switch when he took it apart.
you should insist that he repair, it is serviceable tool, it might be to much if it needs rewinding
@@bx2200 Yeah, switch, not the entire tool.
That same drill motor/gearbox was/is used on Westinghouse (later Cutler-Hammer and now Eaton) DS circuit breakers as a charge motor. Those motors and gearbox are nearly indestructible.
two speed magic done with a single diode. you forget that's a universal motor?
My wife bought me one of these on our first Christmas together in 1973. Mine had a reverse and two speed. Still have it, only change is a new cord. Also had a really cool mounting stand that functioned as a drill press. Good stuff. No longer the go to drill, but still works.
What a waste of a good drill it just needed a new switch
Someone else has probably said it, but the old B and D drills could be mounted in a stand and be used as a grinder or buffing wheel, so it needed the button to lock the switch in the "on" position. I've got my dad's all metal version from the fifties, metal gearbox and plastic body version from the seventies, and all plastic body version from the eighties, and they all had provision for mounting in a stand.
What a sin! Burned up a useful dill for shits & grins :-( I would love to find that style B&D drill at a flea market or garage sale. I have a neat little bench drill press attachment for that style B&D. It mounts the drill by a bracket that slips over the top 2 filister head screws at the chuck end of the drill and the rear of the drill was held by a deep setscrew like socket over the top screw in the handle. I bought it new amost 50 years ago. Wore out 4 or more drills with it. Unfortunately that model drill got dicontinued in the mid 70's. Now the little press hides under a bench without a drill for it. Too neat a tool wth many fond memories of the many things I build with it in my 20's and 30's to throw away.
I have the single speed 1/4 inch chuck version of that drill, handed down by my grandfather (I'm 59), and it has an all-metal chuck. Seeing what looks like a part plastic chuck on your example, and slightly-hooped chuck key, my guess is that yours has a replacement chuck, hence the modern green schmoo. I did not enjoy seeing that thing get smoked.
man i cant understand half of what you say but i still fricking bindge and re bindge damn near every video you upload
I still have that drill. I am 59 and it was my dad's drill before that. The last big job it did and I had to stop due to a burning smell but no smoke and it still runs. I used it to drive 500 screws into two 3/4 inch thick plywood sheets so I could tile my front hallway. No very powerful but a workhorse around the house.
May have been a diode for the 2 speed, I've seen it done in lamps before.
My dad's got one (maybe more) similar to this still kicking around (just the drill though). He's had it since I was young. He still uses it too. The thing just keeps on choochin'. Junk 3/8" chuck (one wonky jaw for extra style points)...check; chewy chuck key...check; no reverse...check. Corntact!
Why would they bother to tell you that the label was made in USA but not the drill?
A similar B&D was my first power tool, bought in 1971. It served me well for decades. When using it as a sander it would get too hot to hold, but was always ready for more after a cool down. I accumulated other sanders and drills, but kept that old guy around for little jobs. On one of those small jobs, just a few years ago, his smoke finally came out. Kind of hard to watch his younger brother mercilessly tortured and executed.
why did you sacrifice that drill in public? shame on you for doing that to such a well built tool
Seeing that drill brought me back to when i Borrowed my Grandfather's Black&Decker drill. The metal body, the broken ground... the tingling sensation when you used it. I still have my Dad's metal body reciprocating saw, as well as his all steel, powered planer. These must be badly grounded since I've acquired a fear of using them and bought newer insulated ones. Thanks for your humorous franglophony (I'm originally from Québec). Keep Skookum.
Why did you burnt it out? It was (somewhat) fully working! You could have fixed and sold it!
or children in africa could have ate it
You must be new here.
polemides 00 well that's cool and all, buddy, But I clearly wasn't talking to you...
The best use for that type of drill is for recycled metal.
been binge watching your videos lately, how did I not find you earlier? keep up the great work!
LOL @ "we get it, you vape"
Brandon Dunson i lol'd at this.
I have several of these drills and they are still working. Tough old blisters. If you have no further use for that one I could use it as spare parts, The plastic part of the handle seems to be the most fragile piece. It just doesn't stand up to the repeated trips onto the concrete floor in 35 years of service. I would be willing to purchase it and pay shipping. Tom
Burning that drill up was sick,
I was tought to take care of my tools.......Sad
It was his tool and his decision.
103 years and three days ago, the German army destroyed the library of Louvain as retaliation.
*That's* sad.
Back when black and pecker made proper tools. Now they make chrome toasters, shitty household drills, and low quality yard stuff.
AvE - Where tools go to die
This is a woodworking drill; it doesn't have reverse.
The "unknown device" in the switch is a diode; it reduces speed/torque by essentially cutting the bottom half off the AC waveform. Think of it as a poor man's PWM. ;) As you can imagine, inductive reactance when switching from half-wave to full-wave is quite high under load; hence the arc-burns on the contacts you were talking about.
I had a similar B&D VSR drill (maybe older, but used the same motor/transmission) I inherited from my grand-dad; it survived 30 years (with occasional regrease and new brushes still available from Jandorff/Ace Hardware) of frequent use in a jig for drilling pipe before the pinion portion of the motor shaft wore out.
I'd bet you a dollar if you went back to it after it cooled down it would still work. :D
"Tant qua moi , sa ce lave " 10/10 Canuck french much love
Fire Potato was about to say the same thing 😉
You know, one of the oldest tools in my family is a drill of this vintage. The dang thing can noot be kilt no matter what has been done to it over the years. The dang thing built a house and did 1000 diy diddly jobs. I mean I know... who wants to use a corded AC drill at all anymore but damn when all the batteries are dead and the fancy drills are lost somewhere or you're waiting 20 minutes to get a charge on you grab the 40 year old "POS" out of the far back part of the tool drawer and pull the trigger on good ol' AC current and suddenly you don't think the crappy old drill is so crappy anymore. It gets the dang job done with authority... while making enough noise to wake the whole block. The particular sack-of-gravel scream they make is just nostalgic.
That ending was sick. As soon as the smoke lit off I had to turn El Video off..I am not a fan of snuff flicks...;)...
I have and still use a similar version but it is variable speed. It was a replacement for the same drill that had a dramatic demise. I was using a speedbore type bit drilling holes to run wiring. The sharp point at the centre of the bit was threaded to pull the bit through. I had done many holes and the drill was getting hot but being a rank novice, I kept going.Big mistake, the handle let go, it having ripped from the two long screws that connected to the case giving a helluva big electric flash in the air as the handle ripped completely off the case leaving me with two distinct pieces. I decided I should not load up the replacement drlll the same way.
I have that exact same drill!!!! it's awesome
mine has never been serviced and it has the same brown grease in it
I've been trying to put a bigger chuck on it, how did you get that one off?
it hurt me a little to see that one destroyed😂😂
Put the chuck key in it, then smack it counter clockwise; chuck should unthread off the shaft...
While I agree that destroying good tools is a shame, I didn't feel much for this one. These primitive single-speed forward-only drills really aren't good for much (not to mention actually quite ugly). The recycled metal could be used for better things.
Just got a Black and Decker impact wrench, 7.7amp, a 6511 type 3 (last one made in Jan 1977), 240lb-ft of torque rated, ten buxs well spent.
Still runs super smooth (was probably only used twice a year to change tires).
I call her 'Ol Sparky, on account the last guy put the brushes in sideways! Would have been fine when new, but now hat they are worn down to a crescent moon shape, the can make contact with more than one commutator bar at once, so sparking around the brushes, especially when you suddenly switch between forward and reverse. Fortunately, they still make the many of the parts, so currently waiting on new brushes/holders/springs, and the plastic cap that disintegrated when I took out the brushes to have a look see. I have enough access to clean off the commutator with a qutip and get my scalpel in there to ensure no contact between any of the bars (Doesn't appear to be any though). Waiting on new parts, about $15, so I'm only in it for 25 Canadian pesos. I think I need 2 screws though, looks like they were on the back to help keep bushing assembly in place. Jelly bean part, so no biggie.
Tried to take it apart (I know, if it ain't broke....), but figured I could put in some new better modern grease and a good cleaning. . Well a good bit of janky resistance early on changed my mind. Once I fuck it, I'll give her a go I guess.
Heres the official service guide: servicenet.blackanddecker.com/Products/Detail/6511
ANy ideas on a good way to recondition it? Anyone?
Still, its amazing to me that several of the components (including brush assemblies) are still used in modern tools!, which works perfect for me.
Anyway, love old tools, they make me happy. That and any knife made in Sheffiend a long time ago :)
Thanks fof the videos, have a good one eh, Peace
In Australia we call that "crimes against machinery"
Today you win the "TSFWA" Too Silly For Words Award
I love it ! Keep up the good work
Cheers Mate
Wow, the ending there I felt myself going back to watching Braveheart to the scene where William's getting pulled apart and getting his guts all scrambled and the crowds yellin' "Mercy! MERCY!" and now I just feel sad. It's all fun and games funkin around in the shop until someone intentionally tortures a good tool to death....
So, if I happened to have a really old Russian/Ukraine equivalent from back when I was a lot, something something, where would I ship such an object, prey tell o dear Overlord AvE?
Many of these old tools can be found at yard sale for very cheap. Pick them up and you can get great value.
I must say would have been cooler if you re-engineered the swicth to work and outfitted a 1/2 chuck and put it back in service
Love it! My dad told me the same thing. "What's problem with a little shock?"
Every time I pulled the trigger on that all metal craftsman circular saw, it shocked me.
No wonder he had me build everything starting at age nine, fences, sheds, decks.
Sadistic old bastard!
you're saying mint a lot, you weren't on the job on Connecticut were u?
iamawatermelon haggard lol
Cause of these videos, when I let the smoke out of one of my tools, the first thing I do is grab my screwdrivers and open her up, gave me the confidence to at least look if I can put the smoke back in, and I’ll say I’ve had great success!! I’ve rebuilt my drill using ten dollar brushes and found a local to turn my commutators, and now shifting thoughts to older more serviceable tools, plus some tools new when needed.
You killed it for no reason.
That belonged in a museum!
A good drill wasted for your entertainment pleasure.
My dad used one of these for about 30 years before the cord was too trashed and he just bought a bigger drill. Still have it around
Just one guys perspective, but don't feel you need to break your guitar after every concert.
AvE....I know you're a low profile no limelight kinda guy....but you got a gem of a channel here.....best on UA-cam!!! keep it up!!!
Not 2 speed? Off is a speed, just a really, really slow speed
thats kinda like saying you have a time machine, but it only goes forward at regular speed.
My dad still has a old drill he uses from the 50's I nicknamed the wrist breaker when I was a kid. Also I never seen a Jacobs key for the chuck it's always been a Phillips head jammed in the hole a flathead levered against it to tighten it. Man I love this channel even though I have no clue what y'all are talking about most of the time.
Is it a new trend in the developed world to burn out old tools as a hobby?
Your vijayos are quite skookum, and are never filled with schmoo. Thank you for all that you do. It's great to see your personality shine through on all of your videos. My best friend and I used to tear apart old electronics to try to learn about them. If it had a motor in it, we'd tear it out and hook them straight to batteries to make them chooch violently, and this reminds me of those days.
As a tool repairer and motor re-winder I'm not happy with this destruction of a good tool.......
Funny story about the Robertsons....my grandparents had a cabin in Canada, and their high security door lock was what they thought were cutting edge technology--"square drive" screws. (This is in the late 80's.) They said, "What's the chance someone in Canada will have one of these?"
My Grandpa was absolutely pissed when one spring he opened up the dock house and found a $20 next to an emptied gas can, with the door still screwed tightly shut. It's funny, because...Canadians invented the "square drive" (i.e. Robertson)....and he didn't ever figure it out...he thought he was being clever, but he played into their hands! And happily, that snowmobile-ist was presumably able to safely return to civilization, thanks to my grandpa's particularly Canadian accessible fuel depot.
*Murderer!*
who was that Adam guys channel you recommended?
i swear this guy breaks half of the shit he takes apart.
That round brush space is a simple but great dynamic brush holder, it'll hold it tight,(round) for cheap making tight fitting, and it'll allow the brushes to bind less being able to twist with torque on those far commutator bars. Sexy!
It takes me back to the early '80s when I was apprenticing at the local Honda shop . I had the variable speed version of that drill that I got off my dad . De-glazed many a dirt bike cylinder in the parts washer with one of those . Really brought the memories back . Miss my old dad I do .
Just got my Ruler in the post about 5 minutes ago and a new AvE video to boot, awesome sauce
Back in the day long about 1985 or so--just as Makita was getting big as THE pro brand of tools--I asked my boss, who ran the University Art Dept. wood shop, what drill/screwgun should I buy. His response, "just don't get anything orange..."
(still remember those Makita girl posters - long ago banished to PC purgatory)
my dad has an old Milwaukee drill, 3/8 chuck, same arrangement as this one, all metal except the handle. He's rebuilt it a couple times and replaced the switch a few times, but has had it since i believe the late 70's early 80's. I, myself have driven probably 1000 drywall screws with it and who know's how many he has. They don't make em like that shit anymore for sure.
Indeed, not a resistor. Definitely a PN semiconductor of some sort. Probably a thyristor or diode and a good ol' universal (AC "series") motor .
i believe the green schmoo on the gears is just assembly lube and the other stuff was squirted in after assembly to serve as the proper gear grease.
i've taken lots of these drills apart and they are almost always packed full of grease like that.
Just got my hands on a 1960 d500 black and decker drill, pulled the trigger and she screamed like a banshee so I knew something was off. She was absolutely packed with shmoo and a lot had hardeded. Gave her a very good clean out and she runs like a watch. Since I know it will last forever, time for another 60 years service😂
I have the exact same drill and it works. My daughter was driving down the street and saw a guy put out a bunch of tool with a "FREE" sign so she loaded them in her car. (Smart girl, knows me well ). Along with this drill came a beautiful 1950's 2 draw tool box, a battery terminal puller, some plumbing tools. Of course my first thought was "Check out this drill. Let's see if it kills me" lol.
We've had one of those drills in the family for at least 50 years. It's loose, it squalls like fury, but it still goes. It drilled a lot of holes in Missouri native oak framing that was put up green, stuff that only the best with a hammer could drive a nail into without bending it. If you got stuck with a job that required the use of a drill sanding pad or grinding stone, that was the drill to use because it had the rpm's for it. Well, you had a better chance of getting results, anyway, instead of just turning the stone into a pile of dust.
The "resistor" you mentioned is in fact a diode that cuts off one sine half wave. This drill has an universal motor and works with both AC and DC.
To AvE . i see a huge increse of subscribers or views in the future. in all the video's i watch there is a refrence to AvE or in the comment section. fuckning love this channel been here for a wile and love the progression this channel have had. srry for bad english. Peace out
The added grease functions a heat absorber and dissipater. When you remove grease like that you are affecting its ability to dissipate heat. That increased heat will break down the viscosity of the grease.
I just found your channel and you sound exactly like my late grand dad 😂 Good man. Learned a lot from him. Definitely got a sub.
I have inherited almost exactly the same model, but 220V and one-speed only (black trigger). It has been in the family since my dad bought it in the mid 60´s and has drilled a zillion holes: almost all furniture for three houses, plenty of metalwork (sheet and stock) and hundreds of brick wall holes and general fixing of broken things. Regularly cleaned and lubed, it is still in pristine condition (bushings, gears and roller bearings still original, only carbon brushes replaced a number of times). Cons: the 3/8" chuck is useful only up to 1/4" bits; body starts to get hot if used for a moderately long time without a pause.
Am still using it these days to help build a new kitchen furniture.
I liked most of the review, but It was a pity in the end to look at such a noble servant twitching under an undeserved torture. I guess the soul of the poor drill (as good machines do have a soul) is now in machine heaven.
My metal bodied Black and Decker drill is still going, but I got the last set of brushes in the world for it. So it doesn't get much use these days.