Are SMALL AMPS Taking Over HiFi? EverSolo Amp Review (Amp-F2)
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📌 EVERSOLO AMP REVIEW (AMP-F2) Are Small Amps Taking Over HiFi?
00:00 EVERSOLO F2 AMP REVIEW
00:43 TECH SPECS: EVERSOLO AMP-F2
01:57 HOW I TESTED THE EVERSOLO F2: SPEAKERS AND ASSOCIATED EQUIPMENT
02:54 EVERSOLO AMP-F2 PERFORMANCE / EVERSOLO SOUND + BEST USE CASES
08:08 COMPARING THE EVERSOLO F2 TO OTHER AMPLIFIERS
09:05 EVERSOLO AMP vs EMOTIVA BASX A2 AMP
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Im glad you've confirmed my arguments with many audiophiles / class D amps are neither warm nor without distinguishable distortion. At $800.00, I would never consider this, and am a firm class A/B advocate.
Leave class D amps where they belong - in subwoofers.
Ok, @4:33 this chart. We need to talk about this. I commend the effort to try a more scientific data centric approach. That said, this chart clearly shows that both amps perform nearly identical. There is a a slightly elevated treble and bass response with the Eversolo. But we are talking a fraction of a percent at a fairly high volume. Completely indiscernible to human hearing. I’m guessing the volume was slightly higher on the Eversolo during the tests. Due to room acoustics, the treble and bass have slightly more gain than the midrange frequencies. Given the info available here, I’m pretty certain both amps perform nearly identically with a ruler flat frequency response. Leaving the choice between the two down to budget and aesthetic preference.
PS: @6:13 Is this Carl or Karl? It makes a difference! Carl owns all of Burt Bacharach’s recordings, not only on CD and Vinyl but reel to reel as well. While Karl often leaps in response to the ringing of a kind middle aged tourist’s biological alarm clock. All while listening to the hypnotic rhythms of Todd Terje.
PSS: @9:26 Why didn’t you just say that in the beginning and why didn’t I just watch the entire video before commenting 🙄
@@richardbixler Thanks for watching, but I would encourage you to watch again and more closely because your critiques are not at all in line with what I said or showed. For example, the graph you referenced at 04:33 does NOT show bass. It is a nearfield measurement that is very clearly labeled and focuses solely on the treble region of the amps' performance, as shown in the X and Y axis. In this case, we're focusing on roughly 2kHz and above (20kHz) because this is where the F2 deviates from our control amp (and all amps in this test).
Additionally, the differences in the treble response are as high as 1-2dB, which may or may not be audible, but it could result in a sensation of sharper or brighter highs to some, which is something I point out. Next, the room's acoustics, or differences in volume, etc, do not play a role here because both measurements were taken seconds apart, using the same gear, at the same volumes on the same speakers. In other words, I took into account the variables you fear are resulting in a there being a difference and eliminated them, something I note on the graph itself.
I also say several times in this video that there isn't much difference in the sound of many of these amps, especially when listening at more moderate volumes and even more so in the near field, so you're not really catching me off guard or unprepared to respond.
@@robinsonbrand years ago you tested the XTZ A2-300 (and also the bigger brother a2-400) and you had positive experience with them.
Why dont you compare them, they are in the same class: small d-class amps around 450 and 780 usd/eur?
@@robinsonbrandOk, fine! I still think it’s a level matching issue though. I appreciate your review nonetheless.
But more importantly, is it Carl or Karl???
Love ❤️ Andrew and Kristi, no slurping of marketing BS or catering to their product supplier at the cost of the plain truth.
They are the best!
Indeed, there’s no shortage of those available on either side of the pond.
Thank you for mentioning the hiss and the performance at low volumes. Both aspects are important to me
Glad you found the review helpful.
Now my Sunday can really start properly 🎉🎉❤❤❤
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Thank you for joining us Tommy.
So happy to see the Q acoustics being wheeled out again 😊
Every time we use them, we're reminded of just how good they really are. Kristi and I had a full-on conversation the other night about how, for 90% of listeners, they're all the high-end speakers most would need.
Every time they come out, I love it. I'm always sad to see them boxed back up.
@@KristiWright Forgive me if this has been addressed in reviews or questions, but do you use one of their centre channels as well?
I would like to thank Andrew for making me spend an entire Sunday binge watching Fallout on Prime. Way to go!!! 🤣😆
My god do you do great reviews! Honest, down to earth comments! Happy sunday!
Thanks so much!
Seeing your comment along with the comment directly above yours is a perfect example of the world we live in. Thank you so much for watching, Antonio!
You guys always deliver . What an enjoyable review. I love Eversolo . I use my A8 with my Rotel 1592 MKII u and Kristi so brilliantly reviewed & brought to my attention . For headphones I have a Topping DX9 all in one that I pair with my A8. The DX9 and A 8 pair beautifully with AKM chips and my Focal Clear , & Utopia headphones (love Focal).thank u both for doing the great work u guys do brining these great products to us ❤
So much good audio equipment out there at all sorts of price points ! Glad to see you still have your Cornwalls ! I have mine from 1984 (OG owner here !) that is still going strong driven by Class A SET all tube at a whopping 8wpc !
Your guys’ final thoughts portion was so well written!!! Love it🔥🔥🔥
Thank you so much, so glad you got what it was we were trying to convey.
Another cool review. Nice job on the comparisons other anps. Had Crown anp back in the day. Wish I held on to it.
Loved the video, I have just taken delivery of my F2 AMP, I'm going to use it in my home office paired with the Eversolo DAC-Z8 and Monitor Audio Bronze 100 speakers which should arrive any day, I'm hoping to get a good experience, mostly using Quobuz HiRes streaming. I'm also using the DMP-A8 in my lounge room paired with my Yamaha RX-A2080 receiver and Yamaha speakers, this is working well for me, although the Yamaha NS-555 speakers are a bit of a let down. Keep the video's coming :)
I think that you and CAM (cheap audio man) are like the ying and yang of Audio reviews. Your house is all nice, neat and organized. His place is frantic house of chaos. It’s great to have the different personalities and perspectives in the hobby.
Hey Andrew, I'm still rockin my Crown amps after about 10 years and they are awesome. I never notice any tweeter hiss from them, but I never go over 75 or 80 db. Mostly 60 to 70 db. I really, really like my hearing ! Great to see you still using your Crown every once and awhile. Great review. Have a great week.
My Crowns are (I think) 10-12 years old now too. They are absolute workhorses and I love them.
Hey Andrew, a big fan all the way from India of your channel and love the unplugged episodes you do with Kristi. My sheer respect👍
Great review Andrew.
I have seen many reviews made by your hand and for me this one stands out compared other reviews you made. Not saying the others were not good btw.
Thanks.
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I appreciate that!
Great review as usual Andrew 🎉 always a welcomed treat on my sunday mornings ❤
Thank you for hanging out with us!
The review was nice…but the room and decor are just superb.
Thanks!
Thank you for the review. I was debating between the Emotiva and the Eversolo. You confirmed my suspicions regarding the f2 and Class D amplifiers. I would have preferred to pair my Eversolo dmp-a8 with the f2 but I was reluctant to go with a class D amp. I'm glad you made the comparison between the 2 amps because they have a lot in common. It's the little things that tip the scale for me. Least of which is the Emotiva has a more appealing look as far as size. I think Emotiva aesthetically compliments all the other components in my setup better. Your review has helped me make my final decision.
I really like the approach you are now taking with these up-and-coming Class D amps. I know it's a result of blowback from small amp fanboys, but we live and learn. This was a comprehensive review that spelled out all the caveats. Well done, and I like the new minimal-space setup-very clean.
Glad you enjoy them! For what it's worth, I haven't changed my approach to these or any amplifiers. I call it like I see it. This amp performs better and more reliably than cheaper, TI-based amps in my experience and in direct A/B comparisons. I wasn't attempting to spare anyone's feelings or placate fanboys. Thanks for watching!
Thank you
Great review
Once again, thanks for giving us your honest opinions. As usual I think I know exactly what you're saying. Makes it much easier in my buying decisions as I am looking for a new S/S amp.
We always shoot straight with you. As I have said many times, our loyalty is to you all, not the brands. Thanks for watching!
I love seeing my speakers in the background!!!! I say hey! I have those too! And they are in white also!! Keep up the good work guys!
They're so good!
I love them!!!
Great review! What I took away is this unit would work well on my desktop setup with a more rolled off speaker like Q Acoustics. I saw yesterday all the uproar about the new Fosi Audio V3 Monoblocks that is reportedly 130 bucks a piece and supposedly stable at 2ohm loads. As you said at the end of the review Andrew, they're getting closer and closer and that's to be celebrated!
I think many of those Fosi videos were part of a coordinated rollout aided by Fosi themselves, so just keep that in mind. I can't speak to Fosi's performance (yet) as we have not hooked ours up yet, but from what I saw and/or read, not too many discussing their comparative sound quality apart from "Hey, look, they can play loud." Loudness was never what this was about. Distortion when playing back real-world content and living up to manufacturers' claims is a different story.
@@robinsonbrand Indeed. All good points Andrew. Your nuanced reviews are a much needed counterpoint to the hype train. Glad to hear you've got the V3 monos.
I have owned a F2 for several months now. I have been very happy with it. I use a Black Ice tube preamplifer/DAC with it & do very much enjoy the sound throughout & sound stage. I have a pair of renovated Maggie 1.7 & it drives those speakers very well, although I don't listen at very loud volumes. Also, I don't have any issue with lack of bass, I think these combined components don't need a subwoofer at all.
audio aside, your eye for aesthetics and visual composition is awesome. ty.
Thank you Andrew .
Thank you for watching!
This amp has high distortion in the higher frequencis. It is basically a noise generator! But that is actually what generates good reviews these days. Thank you for not overselling it to much, like some do.
Another great video guys, Love the small form factor of these! Wish they all came in a nice silver though!
Silver would've been cool.
I have bought two of these amps with the eversolo dmp a6. In the beginning I thought the highs were too harsh to my liking too. Strangely enough after a couple of weeks everything became smoother and all together very nice. I am not a believer of burning in anything and my speakers are horns! (vintage Technics SB 100s). I listen in the low 80’s. So I have to say: yes in the beginning I think your analasys of the eversolo F2 sound is correct and I had to equalise it to remove the harshness. But to my amazement they do smooth out with a couple of weeks and I no longer have to use the A6’s equalizer. I have absolutely no regrets that I traded my Musical Fidelty NuVista 300 for these amps.
I have the same experience. After 400h F2 start to open up. Supersoft with my Sonus Faber.
I recently got a Hypex Nilai500DIY 250W Stereo Amplifier Kit. It uses the latest Hypex Class D modules and smps and sounds absolutely transparent. Hypex have addressed the Class D top end harshness in this amp and it is almost silent with no input signal, you need to put you ear right up to the tweeter to hear it. It is effectively silent from a foot away (my speakers use Audax PR125T1 Horn Tweeters).
Still playing our tiny Decware Zen Amp. Love this! Hooked up into Klipsch ChorusII speakers. 🤫 YOUR vid on it was the one that convinced us to order one. Our son as well. Over a two year wait, ( at the time of our order -11/21 )but glad we finally did get one!! Take care over there~
The Zen is amazing and one of the best amps ever (in my opinion). So glad you're enjoying yours!
It took over two years? DUDE. @mikeinmontana8875
@@Moonplant432 You're joking! I knew it was bad but I had *no idea* the wait is 3+ years. 🤦🏼♀How much deposit did you put down?
@@jamesmichael900 ordered it at the end of November, 2021. Received January, 2024. Yup... even spent a 5 day stint in an ICU during that time. (Very serious stuff) Thankfully, I am still around to enjoy it...even being health compromised now... And my way better half didn't have to explain the return...... ALL GOOD!
@@robinsonbrand All your fault Mister! Kidding with ya... Had we missed that particular vid, we probably would have missed out.....I cannot wait that long.🙃. anymore... Love it for now! All the best to you and your way better half. 🤝
Another good one thanks again
Good morning from central Texas! I absolutely love my Crown XLS 2502 amp. It drives my JBL's to volumes that hurt. I'm an old dude, with fried ears, so the little bit of noise/hiss coming from the speakers (when nothing is playing) is only barely noticeable when I'm within a foot or 2 of the speaker. I would think that any Class D amp, despite the apparent, or perceived, audiophile shortcomings, should be considered if one is wanting to build a home system on a budget. I didn't need to break the bank for an audio setup which suits me just fine. Thanks for all of the great content that you guys produce! Love your channel.
Crown rocks, they just do. If people are on the market for a budget, do-it-all amp, it's been my go-to for nearly 20 years. Just mind the noise floor and you should be good!
Good Sunday Morning Andrew and Kristi. Another great review. Is a review of the Primare coming or has it already happened and I missed it? Keep up the good work. Thanks.
It's coming.
Another great review! Thank-you. It will be interesting to her K views on this amp in regards to the high end treble. Have a great week! Cheers from the great white north.
Tune in Friday then. Thanks for watching today!
Hi! Please watch Friday's Unplugged! Did you catch the last one?
I always do! Haven't missed an episode since I subscribed. And I also go back and catch up on older ones I may have missed or just like to watch again.
@@user-ml9jj7bw5o That's awesome! Thank you for that.
Thanks for mentioning the sound performance at low listening voliume levels… it’s the part of every amp review that I listen out for. I’m looking for an amp that is really special at low to mid volume levels. I have fantastic efficient bookshelf speakers (Heco Celan Rev 3)… but I’m still looking for the right amp… any recommendations up to $3500? Many thanks!
But what do these power figures mean? In the 1970s the reputable manufacturers would specify their power figures in watts RMS (root mean squared) at a specified distortion level. This made power output comparisons reasonably easy, although the less reputable makers would often sneak power figures in as IPP (instantaneous peak power) which could easily be three times the same output measured in RMS - and never mind the distortion. What exactly are they using as a measuring standard these days - and why do they not state it?
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A used Yamaha as-2100 at 1200eur still easily holds the “budget” crown :) . Thank you for keeping things in perspective and not jumping into the hype train.
Two years into Covid and fully vaxxed I got it and while recovering I discovered this channel. It was a real help watching/listening to Andrew and Kristi's content at the time! I've been enjoying ever since.....A & K please keep up your fine efforts and many thanks:) P.S. hehe, It got me so excited that since that time I've spent BIG $ on the hobby! Cheers from Canada
Hypex based NAD seems like the comparison that makes the most sense power and price wise if we're talking class D competition, not desktop sized TI based Fosi amps.
I bought the amp because it was backed up by the engineering and service of three companies. At the price it is one of the least expensive mono capable amps with internal power supply. This will be much more serviceable than Fosi in the US. It is used to power towers to relieve the load on a denon 6000 series receiver. I was also aware of the 300 hour burn in but the brightness was gone in a day. In a few days it had more punch.
Would LOVE someone review Eversolo A8 with Benchmark AHB2 amp. The individual characteristics I’ve read about each product seem to be made for each other.
This came out at the perfect time!! I've just been looking at these but couldnt find any reviews. Was hoping you'd review them.
I'm trying to find an amp for the KEF LS50 Meta and was wondering if these would be good enough.. Seems like it would be decent for the price but maybe not the best.
I noticed in one of your older review that you mentioned that the Naim Uniti Atom was great with the Meta but I'm a little conccern with it being on 40wpc, was that an issue at all when you tested it? Or will it just not be able to go that loud with the Atom?
Thanks!
Any thoughts on how the Eversolo compares to a Sonos Amp. And what the real advantages are (if any). The power output for Class D is about the same at 8 ohms (125W Sonos, 145W Eversolo) and same for 4ohms (250W). The Sonos Amp also has significant streaming features including native Apple Music, Amazon, Tidal and Qobuz, but a limit of 16bit 44.1khz. Other than input connectivity, I’m not seeing the greater value unless the sound is significantly better on the F2. Thank you for a very informative review though, as always!
I am surprised that the Lyngdorf TDAI-1120 has not been in one of your videos yet. Would be a great review.
Thanks, very informative! I would also love to see a review of the Teac AI-303. Similar price point (in Europe at least), a credible power rating (2x50W) with built in ESS Saber DAC, HDMI eARC, Bluetooth, Digital Inputs + 2x RCA, Sub Out. Combined with just about any streamer using a digital connection I would hope this to deliver good quality and decent power in a small footprint.
I have F2 a good week. It is connected in pre out with Denon AVC-X 4800h. It drives me front Klipsch RP 8000F. In any case, the amplifier is worthy of its money. I can personally compare with the XTZ Edge A2 - 300 (IcePower module from Bang & Olufsen). The F2 has softer high tones, the bass can be more defined and the stage wider. What I hear in my system, and I am 55.:);) Both are a great value for money what they offer.
Hi Andrew and Kristi, liked this video, entertaining 🙂. I have the amp that cannot be named in my home office and I like it :D I would like you guys to test the HIFI ROSE RA280! Whishing you all the best from BE.
Always have to drag out the Emotivas.
This channel was the number one inluence on me getting Emotiva xpa3 reference differential instead of Parrasound. If you are not getting a John Curl JC5 or JC1. Dont bother spending on the Halo mid range Parrasound gear.
Great review. The Crown seems like it could be a great amp but I can't stomach the front of it. Are these new designs?
I absolutely love the intro music and logo. Can u pls tell us who designed and composed it...
I would love a review of mission qx series
Because you love the Polk R series so much and they both use that ring dome tweeter’s I own mission qx2 mk1 series which are no longer available but they have a new qx serie mk2 brilliant video as ever
Again you made a very good video explanation about amplifier
But you might missed your audiolab 8300xp and musical fidelity brands for comparison
During last session of the video 13:05 you mentioned very interesting amplifier but you didn't specify the brand/model could you please tell us which one is that
Regarding technical part of amplifiers damping factor is important or not if yes then what range/value we suppose to consider to achieve the best performance for all kind of music in 85DB volume.
Any news for Arcam AVR or Amplifier review through your chanel last 1 year i am personally waiting for it
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These concept 50's look so nice 🙂
they are so good!
@@KristiWright yep I love mine :-) bought after your review, i got to listen to them and was right away in love!!
Outstanding as always Andrew. For me it's nice to see EverSolo changing the audio equipment game on a near monthly basis. I hope this EverSolo vs. WiiM battle leads to some interesting audio products for all of us. I know it's been a long time and it would be from your memory not "head-to-head", but how does the F2 compare to the XTZ Edge A2-300? Thank you and keep up the great work.
I can personally compare with the XTZ Edge A2 - 300 (IcePower module from Bang & Olufsen). The F2 has softer high tones, the bass can be more defined and the stage wider. What I hear in my system, and I am 55.:);) Both are a great value for money what they offer. Klipsch rp 8000f, F2 in pre out with Denon avc x 4800 h
Well, you know my situation with my new house being tiny. So no amps for me for a while. I do feel though like this is very reminiscent of the previous other amplifier that a lot of people like to talk (yell) about. Basically a very similar conclusion, it does its job if you use it right and in the right environment with the right equipment. Otherwise look elsewhere. Either way, it’s not my kind of product. But that’s just me. Great review and video!
Hope everyone is feeling it this Sunday and is having a lovely day!
I got your DM yesterday. Will answer later today. Hope your Sunday is off to a good start.
@@robinsonbrand oh it’s all good, no worries at all! I’m going through the entire soundbar playlist on your channel while I’m assembling ikea stuff! 😬😇
Morning, V!
@@KristiWright Morning ma’am! How’s your day? Hope it’s sunny but still lovely outside!
Andrew, I'm new here. have you done or will you do reviews on Pre pro/ & amp? what are some good combinations? maybe different price range. Thanks
Nice to see y'all bringing out those sexy Cornwall 4s again.
I know it was a pain for Andrew to bring them out but I think it was well worth it to test the amp thoroughly. It's too bad they can't stay out in our room longer. Always off to the next review...
Use the F2 in balance mode with Embla Classic and floor stand speaker with sensitive of 89db. Silence up to half volume. RCA mode is not so fun!
Afternoon Andrew & Kristi 👍👍
Morning KJ! Hope your weekend has been good. Thanks for tuning in!
Hey KJ!!
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Does the treble go up at higher volumes or does it run out of usable current to drive and control the woofers?
Great to see your beautiful Cornwalls back on the floor.
They haven't gone anywhere. Thanks for watching!
They are great speakers.
I really want to hear a pair of Heritage Klipsch some time. In my limited space probably the Heresy IV would fit best. Will need to get both your thoughts on setting up a small basement family room. Love your aesthetics and tastes.
Another great review. You guys think you'll give the new Fosi audio V3 Mono a go?
We have them but have not begun our evaluation yet. One thing is for sure, I'm definitely going to wait until the hype-train has come to a full and complete stop before deciding on whether or not to review them. I get enough crap from the TI fanboys already; I'd hate to see their reaction to me if we didn't fall into complete alignment with what they already just know to be true. Best to let things calm down before rushing to any judgment, good or bad. I want to test these things properly as it is my understanding that they may, MAY, have fixed many things that have plagued these TI-based Class D amps in the past.
@@robinsonbrand Sounds like a good plan 👍🏻
Nice review. These inexpensive amps have taken a new life in this day and age. There is room for all of these products. What I have come to learn is these types of amps tend to fall apart when pushed as you described. But for the most part, most of us listen at levels (80 db's or and less) so this is a great budget amp that will please most individuals. Given the influx of these types of amp's and the speed to which they enter into the market, I speak for myself only, it gets to be a daunting task as to which one to pick. How would you rate this amp compared to a slightly( very subjective) more expensive class A/B amp with less power? Do you think you would have the same review opinion?
Cheer, cant wait for Friday's unplugged video.
Can you give me a more specific Class A/B amp to help you with your question and comparison?
Hi Brian! Great question. We'll be sure to have an answer or at least a conversation about this on Friday's Unplugged!
Excellent video! Sorry to be so late in viewing it!
It's all good, so glad you were able to catch it and today's Unplugged! Appreciate you watching always! Hope you had a good Friday!
@@robinsonbrand thanks Andrew! Hope your Friday was better than mine!🥹
Here come the comments asking why would you compare it to the Wiim 😂, personally, I appreciate the comparisons!
The amp that shall not be named. 😂
Do you think it's outright hypocrisy or an inability to comprehend information? Third option, blind adoration? It's exhausting.
@@KristiWright Whatever it is, I actually cackle hard at it, makes for some good laughs. You guys are crushing it in the audio department.
Eversolo's design language has been so good, I feel kind of let down by the design on this one, though. Nothing wrong with it, but just looks 'black-box' like. Another great video. Great Sunday everyone.
In my opinion, the F2 isn't Eversolo's design; it's really Starke's, which is a shame.
@@robinsonbrand yeah, I feel like they found have made some changes before slapping their logo on it.
which one is better? EverSolo Amp F2 or Emotiva BasX A3 ? is it worth replacing the Emotiva to Everesolo AMP F2 ?
The gain differences in amps always facinates me. How can any amp, at anything north of 15-20WPC, have any gain issues with a 98-100DB efficient speaker?
I am so Crown curious! But my path is leaning toward Rotel integrated or separates 130-150 wpc upgrading from my Yamaha HTR 5460 100 wpc. I want a more commanding damp factor and muscly power supply yielding more heft in current delivery.
Thanks, this review helped me a lot. I’m stuck in the Apple Music universe, so was deciding between the Eversolo streamer/amp combo vs Marantz Cinema 50 via Apple TV. Based on your review, it seems Marantz is the way to go.
The Marantz Cinema 50 with an Apple TV will be more versatile long term and still give you great sound quality.
It really depends on your situation, your speakers, and your room. The Marantz will allow you more flexibility (home theater). I personally think there are better amps than the Eversolo, so between the two options, my vote is Marantz.
@@KristiWright Thank you. This is solely for streaming music in a medium size, funky room with poor acoustics. So, room correction with the Marantz is a huge plus.
@@jacobpaternostro9109 It sounds like the Marantz is better suited for you.
For this Review i look for weeks. Thanks for this. I Use the Eversolo DMP a6 und für the Money it is for me i very good value. So i was „hyped“ for the AMP to. Today i use a Marantz Cinema 60 DAB with a NAD C268 Amp for Stereo. Is also a Class D. I want to Switch to the Eversolo Amp for the smaller footprint but After this Review i Go with the NAD of i Switch over to Model 50. Because sind i use Bowers Wilkins 705 S2 about a Month and i have in the higher tonalty a Little sparkling Sound out auf the tweeter (when the Scene or Music have only highs and is very quiet, Not over all) and i think After your Review it comes from the Class D Amp. Or do You thing the Cinema 60 ist good enough for Stereo without the NAD? I listen 90% Music und 10% Homecinema. I Hope you read this an give me a Tip. Greetings from Germany
Thank you Andrew for the review for about the same money. I would definitely buy the Audiolab 6000 a order 7000.
The 6000A is fantastic for the price, though I recently switched to a Benchmark AHB2 and it's a pretty significant improvement at any volume level.
@@kadajawi2 there’s just something about that Audiolab sound especially with the B&w 607 S3 anniversary addition speakers Steve Guttenberg‘s speaker of the year 2021 I have incredible synergy together match made in heaven. I have a full rack of Macintosh and I was quite surprised by that amplifier and relatively inexpensive speakers that pairing is fantastic.
Big time common sense....nice one Andrew
I just bought the Emotive BASX A2. It has plenty of power. I am not spending $5000-$10000 for an amp. I am happy with the sound and it runs my Sonus Faber Lumia II's just fine. I listen at 80 dB or less 99.99% of the time.
The BasX A2 is AWESOME! You bought a great amp, full stop!
@@robinsonbrandFor a desktop application - assuming a single analog input would suffice - any thoughts on the A2 Flex mini?
@@fonkenfulit's awesome!!!! Just not at super hi volumes with inefficient speakers. It's handled EVERYTHING I've thrown at it Well. Clean and detailed. The A2 gives you more head room and is even better at low volume listening, better separation, bigger soundstage, and more low end control. If you are crossing over low frequencies then the gap between the two amps is almost nothing.
@@ramondelgado6778 Mentioned elsewhere, I’ve just added an A7 to my HT rig, and am quite happy. With a 10% discount it landed on my doorstep for just north of $1000 Canadian, which after a fair bit of analysis paralysis, I deemed the best bang for my .72 dollar🤭
@@ramondelgado6778 Said this elsewhere, but I’m quite loving the BASX A7 I recently added to my small room (340sq ft) Atmos rig. Not all of us need the power to blast THX reference levels. Most of my movie watching is later evening, and levels are generally in the mid 80s, and with 88db sensitivity speakers, 7x90 real world watts plus whatever the Onkyo RZ740 can pump out for the heights is quite sufficient.
Those Cornwalls !
I have not had much luck with the reliability of Emotiva’s products so I have ruled them out. Any thoughts on the NAD C 268 to drive my Klipsch Heresy II?
Nice discussion, hope you guys also get your mitts on the new CXA 81 for a review (and a brief discussion on whether CA was smart to discontinue the 61 . . .)
As near as we can tell, there doesn't appear to be a great deal of new anything with the CXA 81. Are we missing something?
@@robinsonbrand Yes you are - CA is releasing a Mk II of the 81.
I was asking, what do you feel is new about the Mark II? It looks more like a mid-season refresh than an outright new product.
@@robinsonbrand I dunno -- you could say the same thing about the new CXN, no? but it was worth reviewing if only to conclude that the new version doesn't offer much beyond its predecessor. Same principle for the 81.
It is because of the CXN I'm now a little weary of CA's "new" claims.
So I forgot my Sony STR-AN1000 doesn’t have any pre-outs. I was going to try and upgrade from my old Klipsch Reference F-28Rs to some Comcept 50s but I’m afraid the receiver can’t handle them without an amp. What do you think? Or do you have any other speaker suggestions that would work?
Maybe Crown XLS1500(2) could help with the noise level, as it's much lower than XLS1000(2).
I wonder what happens to the sound when you use two of these in mono mode? I suspect a lot of these class D amps really don't live up to their claimed specs but may perform better as mono-blocks. But at that price point, you're probably better off going with a more traditional class A/B unit.
Andrew, would you say the small boost in the high frequenceies at high volumes may be a good match to users with speakers with warm or rolled off highs?
Check back Friday! If there's time, I'll raise this question in the next Unplugged.
Would love to hear your thoughts on Buckeye for home theater amps
Going to have to Google them as I am not familiar. Thanks for the heads up!
Can't wait for the miilan hifi audio reviews 😂
I've been looking into Class D amps for a while for a suitable desktop amp and started this journey with a Fosi v3. Having very inefficient speakers at the time 83db the Fosi did a great job but werent perfect near field. The speakers were too hard to drive and once I turned the volume up there was alot of hiss. I then found the eversolo but do to the some unavourable measurements from ASR from the stark audio amp and the lack of overall reviews at the time, I decided against it. I ended up picking up a Pro-Ject Amp box DS2 and all I can say is wow. I'm using these with the same hard to drive speakers 83 db and it's a clean 100watts in 8ohm and 145 in 4ohm. I cannot turn my volume past 40% without it being too loud for desktop use. The other great thing I found out is this amp used hypex modules which usually measure fantastic. So if anyone else is in the same boat as me I think the Pro-ject is a good option. Oh another good one I saw was the Teac Ai303 which I was going to buy until I found a great deal on the pro-jects which had more power.
@mavy28 I'm glad the Pro-Ject is working out for you. I really love their bookshelf speakers we reviewed. You should give them a try if you haven't already. I do have a couple of questions for you related to your thoughts on the Fosi and the Eversolo:
(1) Did you give the Eversolo a listen? It sounds like maybe you didn't, ultimately writing it off after seeing "unfavorable" measurements on ASR? --which leads me to my next question-- (2) What led you to try the Fosi? Did ASR and their findings have any impact on your decision to try the Fosi amp?
I'm bringing this up because it's evident that Fosi leverages ASR for its marketing and advertising. I'm interested in your perspective on this, especially considering your less-than-agreeable experience with the Fosi, in which ASR's measurements appear to have been more positive. Call me curious, but I like understanding how people's minds work and what leads them to their decisions.
@@KristiWright Oh wow, I wasn't expecting such a thoughtful response to my ramble haha. Let me take the time to better articulate myself:
1.To clarify, I didn't have the opportunity to audition the Eversolo as it's not available in showrooms in Canada, and at the time, there were limited reviews. While I consider ASR measurements, I usually take them with a grain of salt and I think most people should. I also saw the amp in the background of your videos so I was waiting to hear your's and Andrew's opinion on the amp before I made my decision. Fortunately, I got a deal on the Pro-Ject I couldn't say no to.
2. Regarding the Fosi V3, I relied on favorable reviews from critics whose tastes align with mine. At $80 on sale, it was a steal! Although it didn't suit my system, I think it's a capable amp worth recommending to those on a budget.
As for ASR it did not consider it as a factor in buying decision. I typically only look to ASR when there is no data from my typical reviewers.
Thanks again for your response and recommendation! I'm excited to try the Speakerbox 5 S2, and now I just need to decide between green and yellow!"
Cheers!
A comparison with the Vidar 2 would be useful. I bet the Vidar 2 wins
The outlook is same as Starke Sound Fiera, seems F2 is Fiera 2, nice.
The same as Fiera 4. This one is 2 channel and has more power.
I wonder how you would compare this to an Orchard, Buckeye or a DIY Purifi kit? This is more Hypex and Purifi Class D amps.
Cheers!!!
So glad you were able to tune in this morning!
Hello!
@@robinsonbrand always. Late today. Mom needed a hand this morning…
@@KristiWright hey there!
Good morning! I wasn't expecting this review! I'm not complaining or anything. I'm just surprised not to see Fosi. It seems everyone had a Fosi video yesterday.
Don't get me started. 😂
@@robinsonbrand Is it just me or do all those channels look and feel the same? (talking about yesterday's Fosi videos)
Maybe there’s a subtle message to be had there.😂
I was briefly considering one of the Fosi’s for rear surround support on my Onkyo RZ740 Atmos rig, but bit the bullet and went for an Emotiva BasxA7 to replace a 3 channel IcePower amp previously driving the front row. While the A7 is less power per channel, I’m now getting more uniform sonic flavour across the entitle bed layer, with the Onkyo powering only 4 heights, and the ICE driving currently 2 subs. Between that and miniDSP to EQ the subs, I’m a happy camper.
So my take away is understand your use case.
@@fonkenful I'll bite, what's the "subtle message?"
You aren't imagining things, @jamesmichael900. It feels like there are a number of channels that used to have their own unique viewpoints and personalities; now, many seem to be facsimiles of the same thing. I don't fully understand it either.
Thanks
Thank you!
Hi Andrew, does the F2 works well with Denton 85th anniversary bookshelf speakers?
Will the F2 amp drive my Focal Aria K936 floor standers ?
My current Amp is 25 watts. More than enough for my setup.
I was about to buy big chunky class AB Marantz 40n for my KEF R3 Meta. I ended up buying shoebox size Lyngdorf TDAI-1120. The lessson I've learned from this purchase is that all the talk about amplifiers not having enogh power for the speakers is one big bull****. Most of them will drive almost any speakers. I have not only enough power but also world class room correction from this amplifier. Don't look at the power but look at the features and perhaps also synergy if you have enough first hand experience with hifi components.
I love my LMNOP class amp
Just you wait until Faucet drops their new QRSTUV Pro model.
LOL
Not all Class D amps are the same, just like class A/B amps. I have an ATI Class D amp and it has been outstanding on several different speakers. Its odd to me most receivers don't use class D amps in them at this point.
You mentioned that you routed all your music for this review through the A8. I moved my A8 away from my tv setup because their ARC/EARC implementation didn’t allow auto switching of the source. Have you got a work around or is that something you’ve grown to live with - changing source manually when you turn the tv on the day after listening to music via streamer?
I don't change inputs all that much, so I just use the remote. Not a huge deal for me.