How to easily change your front differential gear oil on Subarou Crosstrek/Outback
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- Опубліковано 22 кві 2019
- This is about changing your 2019 Crosstrek front differential gear oil by bypassing the fill which is too hard to get to. You can use this method across Subaru platform be it Outback, Crosstrek, Impreza, Forester and the rest.
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This video is such a life saver!!!! I worked on my ‘19 Forester front differential last weekend and stripped the upper fill bolt; so devastated and came across this video!! I was able to fill the front via the overflow port; I bought few bags of Amsoil 75w90 which came in easy pour bag; I just held the bag opening against and overflow port and kept squeezing the bag...oil went in fine and I was so relieved!!!!
Thank you.
@@ndeyefatousylla Hello, I tried to change the front differential fluid on my 2014 Croostrek and I don't know what I was thinking and I poured the fluid on the driver's side. I imagine it went to the transmission that you recommend and how do I get the fluid out of there? Yes. Did it go to the transmission?
Thanks, I just did this. As most folks have said the fill hole/bolt was installed by a robot and extremely difficult to remove. I followed your instructions and got the job done. Only issue was the tubing, I had to bevel the ends with a knive in order to get the 1/2 ID hose in there. Thank you! Ohh, I have a 2017 OB
I am glad you did it. I have 2018 OB and the 1/2 ID fit perfect. Thank you.
Thank you so much! After rounding out the hex bolt where you would normally fill from, I was about to give up. Filled from the check point as you did and it all went smoothly! Thank you again!
You are welcome
@@ndeyefatousylla Hello, I tried to change the front differential fluid on my 2014 Croostrek and I don't know what I was thinking and I poured the fluid on the driver's side. I imagine it went to the transmission that you recommend and how do I get the fluid out of there? Yes. Did it go to the transmission?
Thank you sir! I tried to get the fill plug loose and couldn't do it. You made this job doable for me and save money! Thank you!
You are welcome.
Thanks for this, great idea. I just finished the job based on your video. I originally had a tube that was too narrow to fill, all the fluid I pumped in just came out immediaately. I attached a 5/8in O.D. tube for a better seal and it worked like a charm.
I am glad my video was useful. Both 1/2 in I.D. and 5/8 in O.D can do it only the flow will differ. Thank you
@@ndeyefatousylla I'm getting ready to do mine and put Amsoil in . The fill value is on the passenger side from what I gather .
Thanks for this. Stripped the damn fill plug. Ur the best
nice. very helpful. thank you. I have a 2015 forester and the fill bolt was impossible to get off. I just left it. now i will finish the job.
Outstanding! I was able to do mine as well without struggling with the fill in plug . Great video!
Just replaced the front and rear oil based off this info. Thank you so much amigo! You saved me a lot of money.
De nada.
Wow never knew you can refill them oil from that overflow plug..........thanks a million.......I have the 2022 Crosstrek Sport.
I always watch your video first before I service my wife’s car. Never fail instruction,better than other channels.
I figured this out also. After stripping the allen head in the fill plug. I used a funnel tie wrapped high in the right strut spring base. Overfilled it to 1.75 liters and let it all including the funnel and hose contents run into a clean empty pan. Measured that and it was right on the calculations of a proper fill. Dame concept in closed german and other transmissions. Great video.
Thank you for the instructions. I did this myself yesterday. Easy. 👍 Thanks again.
You are welcome.
Thanks for posting this video. According to the service manual I have for the repair and diagnosis of SUBARU IMPREZA, SUBARU XV CROSSTREKTM, and SUBARU XV CROSSTREKTM HYBRID; 2014MY GJ*****, GP*****, the torque specification for both the front differential fill and check (or overflow) plugs is 36.9 ft-lbs.
You are welcome.
Thank you. I changed the fluid in my Outback today using this method.
Colorado 🧡 Thank you for takin the time to show us how to properly do this . However I have a 2013 Subaru Crosstrex . Either way I like your video . Right on .
I had the extensions but wasn't careful enough & stupidly stripped the upper fill plug. This video saved my bacon, great job Samb! Everything went great, and yes, you need the 1/2" ID tube.
You are welcome.
I had the same issue with stripping the upper fill bolt and this video is a life saver :)
@@ErictheRN Thank you.
@@ndeyefatousylla are you able to make a quick video on how to safely remove the upper fill bolt (either for CVT or front differential fill)?
@@ErictheRN I don't own that car anymore. Now I have only outback 2020 and it doesn't have that issue. If you really want to crack open the upper filler you need an extension and even so you are likely to strip it. Any subaru model from 2015 to 2019 has this issue. Starting 2020 subaru gives you some room to remove that upper fill bolt with ease. For CVT upper fill bolt please watch my other videos on how to service your 2019 crosstrek tranny. Thank you.
Good job brother keep it up ...
Great video I watched this and did mine today!! Great job man!!
Thank you.
Great video. Thank you very much for posting...
Thanks for making these videos man. Appreciate it
thank u for video very clear and detailed!
You are welcome.
Wow man thank you 🙏🏽 this videos was very helpful. You helped e a lot. Thank you 😊
You are welcome.
You've just saved me so much money.
I am glad to hear that. Thank you.
2018 Outback. After 3 hours of pounding the fill plug and spraying it, I was able to break it open using a short extension with the 8 mm socket pulling straight down on the ratchet handle between the case and the catalytic converter I tried long extensions, but that was too wobbly and I feared stripping the plug. I was able to use the fill plug hole and the same size hose from the top to fill the case. I put anti-seize on the fill plug washer before I put it back in. This video was my backup plan if the fill plug wouldn't come out.
Great job you have done there. Not easy at all. Thanks
this is the best video on youtube
What an excellent idea! I was able to do this without a pump by using the Valvoline Synthetic 75W-90 which is available in flexible squeeze packs. I held the nozzle tight to the opening, squeezed about a pack and a half up in there and let the excess drain. There was some dripping but not too bad, and I had a catch-pan and a puppy-training pad underneath, plus long-cuff gloves so everything stayed clean.
Thank you.
I'm about to do this tomorrow with those packets
@@DAlexKablack Yeah I love those squeeze packs, I used one for the rear diff too. So much easier than having to disassemble and clean my pump afterwards.
awesome video, thanks for sharing your knowledge. Can you link the fluid pump you were using? thanks.
I’ve never seen it filled that way. The full plug can be accessed using a long handle ratchet with no extension added. It is on the pretty tight but comes off with a 12 inch ratchet at least
You are right. I have read a lot of forums and people were having so much hard time opening that fill plug reason why I put out this video showing that there is another easy way. Thanks
DUDE..... you saved life. I'm going it next time.
Really! Thanks
@@ndeyefatousylla yea. the fill plug is a Bitch for me. I just couldn't get it out. Dealer is asking close to 400 bucks for them now. thanks man for posting it.
@Nuttie Trend Channel Ok. I am glad I saved you $400. I also stripped mine, so I came up with this idea, and it works. Enjoy bro.
Very good 👍 thank you
You are welcome.
Thanks for the demo. It will be even more helpful if you can call out the bit/plug sizes and torque values. Again, thanks.
Good job!! really you,re Nice
Thank you.
Very good!
Thanks
I just did the same thing, that fill bolt is too hard to get to and too hard to remove. I understand the dealers go through the overflow to fill it as well.
I just turn my car upside down its way easier
The fill plug is indeed tight and very difficult to remove esp. if you use a socket extension - the extension would flex too much. Just use a hex socket and a ratchet - pull the ratchet from underneath the car. Mine came off quite easily, no stripping. 2017 Impreza @45K miles.
Thanks for this video it is very helpful. I was wondering where do you place the level to check that the car is level before starting?
You are welcome. You can set the level anywhere flat under body like rear differential or somewhere flat along the muffler pipe.
Pinch seam (where you use oem jack)
@@teo2975 thank you!
Do you have a video for a 2023 crosstrek 2.0? Can’t find the front differential fill plug
Thank you for the great video.
If you can give the part number for the pump. I have a pump from Walmart and the tube is thin, so the oil drips back. Need the pump with thick tube so it makes a seal.
I use same method to change my 2019 Forester front Diff oil. I think same method can be used for automatic trans fluid change of newer toyota with plastic tube as level checking.
On the 2017 outback there is a differential breather tube on the passenger side under the 2nd air box before the throttle body. That is where I filled mine. Very easy that way with a funnel. 2x 8mm screws and 1x 10mm socket to remove the air box and be able to put a funnel in
I did not see that breather tube on crosstrek 2019. Subaru might have changed it.
Do you know if there is a breather tube on the 2016 outback? How would a breather tube look?
@@anshulmainkar9668 there are two breathers. They are near the Throttlebody, or the entrance into the intake manifold. On the six cylinder this is near the windshield in the middle of the engine bay.
The breather tubes can be identified because they will have cone shaped yellow caps on them and be pretty high up. About the same height as the intake
@@anshulmainkar9668 also try the Subaru outback forums. I think it ends in .org
those guys are pretty helpful *
Any idea of breather tune for the 2017 Forester???
1:43 shows PVC TUBE 3/8" I.D but you said it's 1/2 inch internal diameter so can you clarify on that? It's looks like 1/2" O.D and 3/8" I.D I had same problem with my 2015 Forester. Couldn't get to the fill plug so just finished rear only. It's a Great solution. This is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks.
Hi. It is 1/2 inch ID tubing. If you use 3/8 it may drip while you are pumping the fluid in.
You are welcome.
Great video, do you really need the front passenger side tire off to do this? Doesn’t seem like it gave you that much mode space
No you don't need to remove any tire. I was going to clean my brakes that day that was the reason why I removed the front tires. Thanks
That was an awesome video. Does anyone know what the part numbers are for the replacement crush washers or gaskets? Supposedly the drain plug you can reuse it but ideally replace the drain plug gasket.
Thank you. I suggest you check with your local subaru dealer part department.
There's no way air can be coming out of the same overfill hole you're pumping fluid from like you stated. I think you're able to pump that gear oil in through the overfill hole because there's a differential breather port that allows air to escape as you pump in the fluid.
You are right. I later discovered that there was breather port. Thanks
@@ndeyefatousylla I do appreciate this video Samb. Subscribed!
@@ndeyefatousylla 2018 Subaru outback... The damn fill plug on the passenger side just wouldn't come out! I could feel it stripping so I stopped trying to do it the proper way. I wouldn't have attempted this unless I saw your method was possible. How the hell does the dealer take off the damn fill plug?
Thank you for the great video friend. Helped me out a lot.
You are welcome.
For the front differential, were there gaskets on the drain and check plugs and were they copper (one time use) gaskets or plastic gaskets?
thanks for the video,, could you please post website of pump?
Go to Amazon and type " Transfer Pump - Quart ".
Good job. 2 questions. The first bolt you showed us is the cvt fill? And where did u get the oil plug very convenient to use. ?
The first bolt is front differential fill plug witch is tough to reach. here is the link on to how to service your CVT: ua-cam.com/video/439p-X1qkQg/v-deo.html
The oil plug is called FUMOTO drain valve. Here is the link to my video on how to install it: ua-cam.com/video/zvdM2bPZNpM/v-deo.html
yeah it is the front diff fill. I've also seen people fill the front diff from the other side about the same area but towards the front more and it had a hose connected to it with a sensor or something. So these are very conflicting but I suppose its because there are a wide variety of changes in short time for each vehicle.
Anyone know where the fill is located on the front diff on the 2014 subaru outback?
there is a lot in the 1/2" tubing.. cant you just overfill it and then let the excess come out the inspection hole when you remove the tube and it should be at the correct level then?
That is exactly what I am doing here. Make sure the car is leveled, then over fill and let the excess drain. That will correct the level. Thanks
Are you going to make a video on changing front Differential fluid on your outback.
This is about front diff oil change. Are you asking about rear diff?
This the same exact procedure with outback
Did you notice 0.5mpg less after switching out the original Subaru Super MT 75w-80 to Amsoil 75w-90 or amsoil 75w-110 severe gear?
I noticed the car is smoother but there is a 0.5mpg to 1mpg difference. But I have the outback 3.6.
Not really. I have used long life and the car drives really smooth.
@@ndeyefatousylla 100% it is smoother. Definitely smoother. I used the 75w-110 cause it was recommended anywhere a 75w-90 is. Definitely 0.5mpg to 1mpg hit. I get about 22.7mpg city now. Used to get 23.7mpg city with the subaru 75w-80 Super MT fluid.
Edit: but also it's winter so.... 30F making the oil thick
Does the plastic tubing fit the overflow hole on the rear differential as well?
Yes it does. Thank you
Is it the same with the Subaru ascent
How you had found the tightening torque specification numbers for your car? I tried to found them on my 2021 subaru forester's manual but I couldn't any suggestions
You wouldn't find this info on owner manual. It is likely to be found in the service manual that you can buy on ebay or google it to see where you can buy one. Thanks
Car not level or when last filled was not level. How do I know; oil came out of overflow when first opened. It must be level or you won't get the correct amount in the diff!
The car was level out of the video and I even show the level on the tools to use. Even when you open the overflow for the very first time you will always get a bit of oil coming from it. Thanks
hey, my brother did you just re-use the old gaskets? or buy new? everyone says you must get new, but I have a honda as well as a forester and always re-use them with no issue...
I always reuse the old gaskets and up to today I have not seen a single leak. Thanks
So how many miles did u wait until I'm at 27000 so I'm going to do it h
At 30,000
what's the torque spec for the diffential drain, fill and check bolts?
Front diff = 52 ft-lbs (drain)
Fill front diff = 30ft-lbs
Rear diff = 38 ft-lbs (drain and fill)
check or overflow = 25.8 ft- lbs
@@ndeyefatousylla thank you
@@ndeyefatousylla thank you
I can’t find what is the torque setting for the front differential check bolt?
For the front diff, the drain is 52ft lbs. The fill plug is 30 ft. Lbs. Thanks
Overflow or check bolt is 25.8 ft lbs
Just a question how come you don't use the fill plug??
The fill plug is very hard to remove. You can end up rounding it.
this applies to the legacy also? i would think so?
I don't own a legacy but if you check underneath and they look alike, then you can proceed as shown in the video. Thanks
Hey Samb I have a 2016 Subaru 3.6r Outback and I'm wondering if I can use the Amsoil CVT fluid in the CVT transmission. Since I cannot get all the original oil out. Will the mixing of the two fluids cause any problems?
I could only get 5 quarts out when I changed my 2018 outback transmission fluid more than 2 years ago. 5 quarts of Amzoil fluid were mixed with the remaining stock fluid in the torque converter and up to today, no issue whatsoever. Just go to Amzoil official website ang enter your car info to get the proper fluid.
@@ndeyefatousylla you mean you have success to use AMZOIL CVT fluid in the cvt? coz I am having problem to buy subaru cvt fluid, coz they only sell 20L . that was just too much for drain and fill, as I am not gonna flush the cvt. so just wondering if you had max the cvt fluid
@@sitwy Amzoil will do it fine. What year and model is your subaru?
@@ndeyefatousylla mine is 2018 levorg 1.6, the cvt box is TR580, is it same as yours? factory should be using subaru cvt2 fluid ?
@@sitwy you can buy 5 quarts on Amzoil website. Subaru outback 2020 take only cvt3. Outback 2018 takes cvt2. Thanks
Samb the pvc hose you used to fill the Crosstrek with fluid says right on the hose 3/8 in id. You said 1/2 several times but that may be the OD ?
No. It is 1/2 inch ID. It can not be OD. It is even writen on it.
@@ndeyefatousylla your tubing says 3/8 ID. so its probably close to 1/2 OD. you can see the 3/8 ID in your video.
@@skidivr It is 1/2 ID tubing.
Hi, Samb. I was looking for 1/2 inch hose transfer pump on Amazon, but I couldn’t find it. All transfer pumps are only 3/8 inch, could you please tell me how can I get the 1/2 hose transfer pump? Thanks!
@@drumandlife1004 hey. You get the 3/8 id transfer pump and you also buy 1 to 2 feet long 1/2 inch ID tube and a 1/2 inch clamp. Then you insert the 1/2 in ID tube into the 3/8 inch tube pump and you use the clamp to tight it. That is how I have done mine.
You need to use floor jacks to support them jack stands too........can never be to safe when you are under the car!!
So you reused the gasket on T70 drain bolt?
Yes I did for the third time and no leak at all.
Okay thanks Samb!
You are welcome.
Did you change the gaskets?
No. I have used the same gaskets cause I deemed them good and usable. Thanks
An impact driver would help to loosen the bolts.
how often does it replace?
If you do towing, hauling and you do a lot of driving replace your front and rear diff yearly. If you don't do any of the above replace them every 2 years or 30k miles. Front diff only cost you $25 and rear one will cost you $13 if you do it yourself. Always change your fluid earlier than manufacturer recommendation, then you can't go wrong. Also use Amsoil long life gear oil.
What size of the allan key for the drain plug
You don't use allan key for drain, it is T70 you use. Thanks
@@ndeyefatousylla thank u very much
@@ndeyefatousylla
I have a Subaru Outback 2014 I am trying to figure out which keys to use for front and rear. There is a key around spare tire I am not sure what it is but it fits in the rear drain. Could you please give me full name of the keys like is it 8mm and 10mm star or hex. Thanks
@@stjustinthemartyrapostlesc2412 I have never work on outback 2014, so assuming that undercarriage is identical to crosstreck 2019. For front diff you will need a star Torx 70 for drain.
For rear diff you need an hex sucket 10 mm or allen key 10 mm.
For check or overflow valve you need an hex sucket 8 mm.
Thank you.
If you do fill from side, and as this video correctly shows, really there is no reason to, the overflow or the under hood pipe is fine, make CERTAIN you are on passenger side. There is a fill plug on drivers side that is for your CVT and you will destroy your cvt if you drive it with any gear oil in it.
Ok. Thank you. I will look into.
How long is the Clear half inch tube?
2 feet long should be more than enough. If too long just cut little off to adjust it. Thanks.
@@ndeyefatousylla Thank you.
Earned my sub with this video. Made sense at the end when I saw the overflow in action.
Hola cual es el torque de el perno de medida de aciete y el torque de el perno de drenar? Saludos desde chile
No compredes spagnol. Sorry
@@ndeyefatousylla traductor
Hi friend. what is the torque of the drain bolt and the torque of the smallest bolt where is the oil level
Drain is 52ft.lbs
The small bolt called check or overflow is 25.8ft.lbs
Mucho gracias amigo.
Fair warning about over tightening, over torquing the plugs! You are dealing with steel plugs and an aluminum case. Many have stripped the differential or CVT threads. I almost did trying to torque the front differential overflow tube plug to spec. Not worth it. Tighten enough and call it good.
Always break loose the filler plug BEFORE draining.
LOL, he didn't even bother to fill the fluid through the fill port "good enough".
@@rickt2419 Yo do not need to on these subarus. There is a separate overflow and separate dipstick level check port (in engine bay) either of which can be used to fill instead of side fill plug. 90% of DIY owners and probably 75% of shops will not touch that side fill plug.
the caveat about using overflow plug, and how it works being at bottom of diff case, sit that inide the diff that overflow is connected to a tube that rises to half the height of the axle boot. so if you use the overflow to fill you need to have a thin tube on your pump, and after some comes out, you need to wait to see if more burps and than see if it takes any more and repeat. You can do same with overflow open and fill from hood front diff dip stick tube. Given where the officials fill plug is most home mechanics are better off and can do a perfectly good job filing from one of the two alternates.
professional
@@teo2975 Can you please explain where the the front differential dip stick tube is located? Is it on all subaru outbacks?
@@anshulmainkar9668 if you have a cvt equipped Subaru, there is no dipstick. It is a sealed unit and you need to check the overflow to verify level
@@anshulmainkar9668 there is no such dipstick. That is what the overflow plug is for. If it overflows, and ten seconds later there is no drip, that’s considered done.
So, 1/2 ID, how about OD? 3/8?
Don't worry about outside diameter. Just get 1/2 ID and you will be fine. Thanks.
@@ndeyefatousylla Hey thanks a lot Samb, I just got my 3 bottles of gear fluid from Subaru dealer, and going to get it done before winter is here. I am a 2019 Subaru Forester owner, getting close to 30k miles
@@Will-ui5gg I always change mine around that mileage. It is very easy. 3 bottles should be sufficient for both front and rear diffs. You can use the same washers like I did with no issue at all.
@@ndeyefatousylla Speaking of the washer, I had a 2010 Toyota Corolla, I NEVER EVER change an oil pan washer for over150k miles. Zero issue
Hey Bro you refill is a wrong way that hold is check level plug😕😕
Agreed. On the new Outback, the fill hole is accessed through the top of the engine bay. There is a black plug connected to a black hose. It has a rubber o-ring and pulls right out and you fill there. The hole on the bottom where he filled it is supposed to be open when filling from top and the excess drains from there. Idk why he prefers to do it this way when filling from the top is so much easier.
playing some reggae music in the back...
The air is escaping out of the breather. Should be on top somewhere
Thank you for letting me know about this.
Amsoil long Life is non compatible with the front Deferential You would have to use amsoil severe gear
Where did you get this information from? I have used and continue to use long life in my Outback 2018 for more than 2 years now and it is still going very strong. Even though Subaru owners prefer sever gear, it does not mean you can't use long life my friend. Please, do a little bit of research online or go to Amsoil site. Thanks.
@@ndeyefatousylla I called amsoil today and ask them what's the difference between long life and severe gear And they said that long life is non compatible with Subaru in front differentials
@@ndeyefatousylla And I did do research that's why I'm telling you that it's non Compatible
@@witherspoon81186 OK then, I will use sever gear from now on. What really surprises me is that I use long life for over 2 years and no damage to my front diff. Thank you.
Yeah thats weird that the amsoil site doesnt show Long Life as recommended for 2017+ models, but show both types as recommended for models older than 2017. I do not understand why as being API-GL-5 certified 75w-90 it is not recommended. The service manual of my 18 Crosstrek says "API classification GL-5
(75W-90)" for Front and Rear diffs.
this is by far the safes way to change your front diff oil on a Subaru 2012 and up CVT transmission. if you use the wrong upper hole, you will damage your cvt trans. again, this méthode is the safest on youtube. ( chec this link, it’s Australia, but it’s the same transmission)
ua-cam.com/video/s7QLRMIl_bs/v-deo.html
Yes indeed. It is very safe and easy to perform. Thank you.