"People Terrified They'll Be Arrested" Over Free Speech | Toby Young x Julia Hartley-Brewer
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
- Julia Hartley-Brewer and Toby Young, director of the Free Speech Union, discuss the increasing threats to free speech in the UK. They highlight the government's aggressive prosecution of social media comments, leading to a surge in Free Speech Union membership.
They express concern over the potential for self-censorship and the release of prisoners to accommodate those arrested for non-violent offences.
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#freespeech #tobyyoung #freespeechunion #juliahartleybrewer #keirstarmer
If you want to save this country, JOIN REFORM UK. VOTE REFORM UK
Save from what? We've had decades of private school educated rich kids ruining this country and you want to vote in another one?
Join Reform and Tobys Free Speech Union!Not just because it might give you some cover against tyranny,but just to support the movement.
Spot on. The problems with the country TODAY are - lest we forget - after 14 years (less 2 months) of CONSERVATIVE rule !!!! I detest Starmer & co - but the Tories have so much to answer for. I'll never vote for either party again.
@@darrellrobson2484 No thanks. We've had decades of private school snobby rich kids running the country and you want to vote for another one?
@@darrellrobson2484 No thanks
My Grandfather died in No mans land in 1917, My Father fought in his tank in world war 2, My Two brothers and I served 70 years total in the cold war and my Mother was an Army Nurse. We did that because, as so many do, that everyone has the right to free speech and liberty. I really do fear for this country and the road ahead.
you fought for the evil empire then get surprise it doesn care about you ... mabe you grandfather did not have choice but all of you could get informed but choose the easier way and paying for it ....
@@jessicalacasse6205Informed in what exactly? This person with so much personal family experience doesn’t need history lessons from you. You sound like an anti-British online troll.
"Thank you" and your family for your sacrifices. My own grandfather joined WW1 at age 17, he returned from the trenches in France, but in poor long-term health. If we lose Freedoms "today" we are dishonouring all those who fought for Freedom "yesterday".
We the people appreciate all of your bravery and loyalty to the country even if leaders don’t 👍🙏
@jessicalacasse6205 The Nazis were the evil ones not the UK and it's allies.
We need to get rid of starmer
I never voted for him in the first place
@@icantbebotheredwithnames how?
@@Billie-p2tWhy do you ask?
we need to get rid of the Uniparty.
Be careful what you wish for. Rayner will be worse. The left will let Corbyn back into the Labour Party then it’s only a matter of time until he’ll be leader.
The idea is to make you Frightened.
Well for many of us it's not working..
The speciality of the sinister Public Prosecutor
fear = control. Been used for thousands of years.
Thank God we have people like Toby and you Julia, to speak up for us.
We are living in very scary times under this government.
If you had a team of experienced solicitors, I'm sure you'd be just as outspoken mate
do you not remember the lies and total tyranny during covid under the previous government?
These days you get arrested and thrown in jail just for saying you're English!
I am English...White English.... White Catholic English.....
🤣🤣🤣🤣💯💯💯👏👏👏
10 years @@robertjames4908
@robertjames4908 I'm English, white English, British, a man, and I'm heterosexual, and I'm of a certain generation. Expecting a knock on the door just for those inate characteristics, I won't need to say or do anything. Oh, wait,,,,have I just stepped over the line,,,????
Mr. Jones speaks a great deal of sense. I think I may join the FSU too. The more members it has, the more effectively it will be able to fight the oppression of the ever increasing numbers of people falling victim to the "new order".
I want to live in a country where anyone can insult MY religion without fear,and vice versa.We should ALL demand the right to decide what offends us and not have it decided on our behalf.
Bloody Christians!
i always tell people religion is nonsense.....all of them.........
Well you need to emigrate .
It's always religion that causes trouble. They are all made up to control people. I don't and won't support any religion. You don't need it to be a good human being.
@@composedlight6850 You should be able to call religious gobbledegook out for the mumbo jumbo it is.
isnt it sad that people are so afraid speaking. Is this the country i served in the military for . Fight for freedom and liberty.
where did you country fought for freedom and justice ... ww2 you start a war so poland be free to give it to stalin later ... to try star a cold war later worldwide but that was to hard to know and only them could give you a free murder pass so you did take it ,so now you scared they ll use a free murder pass on you ...
Keep on posting people!!!
I've just joined the Free Speech Union.
I joined a week ago
Me too. I am too old to care about going to prison but by joining, I am hopefully helping with their finances to fight the totalitarian government.
Its a sad state of affairs when you cant type what you feel or think unless the lefties approve
The 'tolerant' left lol
@@BadAppleBlues the pigs are flying again.
@@susanmills4843 No you never see police helicopters fly over Muslim parts of cities, they have flying carpets instead
F..the Left. Don't really care what upsets them or 2Tier
@@BadAppleBlues The Stalinists, Even Ivan got fed up with his oppression in the end !
A government that rules with fear and intimidation should go to hell.
Oh it will go there. The question is, how many of us it can drag down with us ?
Hell is it's ultimate destiny.
@@timg1246They will do. They have no fear of God before their eyes. 😅
I would rather have people who say hurty words on the street than some repeat offender who should quite rightly be behind bars.
None crime incidents has to be scrapped, free speech as to mean something in this country.
Police intentionally force this issue too, designed to control us. Sad they dont they deal with real crime such as theft and the statistics show most crimes go unsolved. Their agenda is clear they dont serve us, they bully us to control.
I'm proud to be one of the 4,000 who joined the FSU in August! I just want to support this great organisation, hopefully I won't need their help🤞 I am also a member of and donor to Reform UK and a member of GB News, to which I make a monthly donation. Three key organisations to win back freedom for our country. A few pounds a month is the least I can do.
I despise and despair of what our country has become.
Folk of the UK need a constitution that protects their basic human rights e.g. free speech. It seems to me that everyone has rights except us.
UK definitely needs a clear, unequivocal 1st Amendment style guarantee of freedom of speech and opinion, regardless if that is found to be offensive. AND they need to actually crack down on the original law against incitement and threats which has been on the statute for about 300 years.
It's called the Magna Carter.
Unfortunately, the government have whittled it down over the years.
I'm not terrified of my free speech but the way I feel about this new government it's them who should be terrified of me.
We're too passive; people in America wouldn't allow their free-speech to be compromised
Oh yeah?
@@SkullBanker-68 It's written in their bill of rights - 1st amendment
People in America have a written Constitution. We trusted in a Monarch to protect us. This needs reform.
@@allykatharvey Sorry, but I am a monarchist myself but I appreciate that not everyone feels the way. However, I do think that a written constitution could be a good firewall against dictatorships
Google Free Speech Union uk
People who have had everything taken from them, don’t fear the consequences. I’m old, I own nothing and I have nothing to lose. Bring it on!
Do you pay your own utility bills or are you expecting a state handout?
@@arthurlincoln9093 are you a part of the fake name state? Who are you? What are utilities and their bills? Who are ‘the state?’ And who do they hand anything out to? Nobody has ever given anything to me and I give nothing back to an invisible ‘state’. If you mean ignoring demands for invisible accounts which I don’t owe, to a person who never presented themselves to me and said I owe it to them…. Then yes! I am invisible. It’s not difficult. Just not complying is ok. What belongs to me, is mine. It isn’t much and I’m not beholden to it. It’s not an asset if nobody else wants it, but it is to me. I have no debts, no belongings which anyone else wishes to have, but myself. And so I am rich in those terms. And no, I’ve never paid a penny for fuel bills and water and Road tax, etc…… I’m just very cleverer than you sweetheart! ✌🏻
I would be nervous to go to UK now since the communist take over. I am a Brit I have made my thoughts clear on social media. Not encouraging violence. BUT stated hard facts about whats happening in the UK. I saw the riots and shared vids.
Fortunately no extradition where I am... I see those nice chaps from leeds are still free you know the ones that assaulted the 3 police. Yet shout at a police dog gets you 2 years... Would this comment get me a bed in the gulag?
Where are you? North Cyprus? Or Cambodia?
@@arthurlincoln9093 Switzerland.
What happened with the police dog? I read this elsewhere but missed this story.
Re the Manchester guys apparently they arent pleading guilty and apparently that effects how its processed as it has to go court as theyre trying to argue it.
@@DarkAngel2512 A guy was arrested for shouting at a police dog. All the so called Far right were remanded pleading guilty or not guilty. Every other demographic were not they got bailed.
People are angry. Starmer should worry.
Klaus Schwab said people would get angrier. How did he know thay, I wounder?
I am a member of the Free Speech Union
The British public have given up. They are afraid to peacefully protest. The establishment are supported by MSM and the government have no opposition that represent the people. So what can they do?
Very true. Protest and you'll likely be labelled 'far right' and prosecuted at some stage. The real danger is when people feel helpless and like their world is out of control - as that's when strange new unforeseen things can arise. A very sad thing to see in the UK.
REVOLUTION.
Wait to see the backlash. Brits are not known for submission.
I have an idea. We all need to watch and share and make viral the scene “It’s Just One Ant” from the movie Bugs Life.
Keep posting. Join Reform. Write to your MP. Make a noise, even if its small. Collectively it will become a ROAR
What about separation of powers? We need a judicial review about Keir Starmer's relationship with the Judiciary.
Yes 🇬🇧100%,🇬🇧
Thanks for this Julia. Yes, I am now considering joining the FSU too. We must never let people be thrown into prison again for what they think or write. The worst thing yet under SStarmer, is being arrested for the “wrong” thoughts. Appalling tyranny. We need a written Constitution now that it has become clear we don’t have a Monarch to protect our rights to freedom or our borders.
I remember a TV programme about the fall of The Iron Curtain and a comment by a journalist who used to make regular trips to East Germany
He said that one of the things he noticed was how quiet the place was - in bars, restaurants, or just walking down the street there was no laughter, joking, banter, criticism, or lively conversation, just the necessary minimum
The reason was that you never knew who was listening and how your comments might be recorded or interpreted, leading to your being reported, arrested, and so on
Looks like we've reached that stage here
Total 💩
It really does.
Can we as a nation report Starmer for a none hate crime!
How about his stating that the British white persons are all far right, surely that is a non hate crime. Although I suppose it will be the same as the hate crime bill in Scotland. Doesn’t apply to certain people.
I think starmer is following an agenda just like harry and meghan are.. Censorshil.. Censorship industrial complex... Look up schellenberger,
The so called! DEMOCRATS.. DANGEROUS
He incited violence on us brits by calling us all Far Right Racist Fascists He has put a Target on our backs
Ask your MP
Thanks Toby 👏🏻
The govt under Stalinmar has gotten what it wanted. Fear to speak. Fear to assemble. You can't let that happen. UK has been a nanny state so long and allowed it to keep expanding control and here you are today.
Speaking the truth is not a crime, telling the truth is something our politicians should try some time
Mr. Young speaks a great deal of sense. I think I may join the FSU too. The more members it has, the more effectively it will be able to fight the oppression of the ever increasing numbers of people falling victim to the "new order".
lots of interesting stugg o the FSU website
free sam melia
I'd prefer a Free Sam to a Free Palestine.
Who?
@@DarkAngel2512 a guy who got 2 year for designimg a sticker , sayin .white lives matter and we will be a minority by 2066 , judge said there not illegal but he was gonna send him down anyway
@@DarkAngel2512 Look him up.
He was imprisoned for printing slogans such as, "It's OK to be White".
@@DarkAngel2512sam Melia jailed for two years for stickers standing up for White People.
I am traumatised by everything James O,Brian of LBC SAYS and most BBC commentators
I don't talk to anyone I do not know really well these days, I can't upset anyone that way, Unless they are offended that I don't talk to them :)
Frightened is exactly what they want you to be. Unfortunately so many people comply and cower away. This country has no balls anymore
Feels like we are on the edge of real tyranny here
Already there.
That was weeks ago mate .
@@henryDzieciontko Yes, you're probably right...
That’s the whole point. They want the people cowed and compliant.
A Brave New World where no-one hears an unkind word and we all get along together in peace and harmony, fully integrated. That's Starmer's vision, which he intends to bring about by means of harassment, threats, intimidation and "the full force of the law".
he's going to get booted out from within.
Yup that's the general idea .
Police state. Big brother. This will not stop freedom
Toby Young is a good man
He was retarded on lockdowns and vaccines though.
Real people who get on with their own lives have been telling you how far this would go since the legalization of adultery.
Toby and the Free Speech Union are doing sterling work defending our natural right as English, Scottish, Welsh and Irish people to speak our minds freely. I joined the Free Speech Union recently - I recommend it to everyone.
Guilty hide behind Power.!
Terrifying population over free speach was Labour and Starmer's objective. Label anyone that questions, Stiffle discussion.
People should not be 'terrified' as we live in a democracy not a dictatorship, don't we Starmer?
Not under Kim. Jon Ung Starmer,
You can't say that!!!
I have just joined the FSU..
When William won at Hastings he locked away the remaining Saxon Earls in Normandy, as he was worried about revolt!
Arrest me ! I am right wing! 😅🇬🇧🇮🇱🇬🇧
Careful now! Careful. They’re just looking for volunteers!😅
@@allykatharvey 🤣🤣🤣
You have the right to express yourself in a public forum.
Regardless of whether it causes offence!
Social media is a public forum. 😉
Try it!
@@andystreet4022i literally just did it.
I expressed myself in a public forum. 😉
The message I am receiving is:
Do whatever you like, however bad, but only say nice things.
In all fairness it's nothing new we've not been able to "say what we want" ever online really. The internet is just more tightly connected and everything is out there.. It doesn't make sense to me though to punish someone for what they said in a moment frozen in time. No ones perfect and e-v-e-r-y-o-n-e has said or done something they later regretted. It's inhuman and immoral.
It amazes me how these tv people can take so long to ask a question and then keep interrupting the person who is trying to answer the question they asked initially.
Meanwhile, the person threatening Lee Anderson directly with actual physical violence was let off.
This is so political it's not funny.
We need free speech in this country this mental government needs to go VOTE REFORM next time this starmer needs to go this is nt FREE England anymore
Comrade Starmer is a wonderful human being and his government chums are all top notch doing a bang up job preserving the freedoms we all cherish 😳😳😳😳😳😳😳
Are you in an alternate universe?
Wow Suan that flew right over your head
Meanwhile, back in the REAL world ...
He also writes on UTube under the pseudonym @ianwilkinson2731! 😂😂
It looks like the olde British art of sarcasm and wit is vanishing as well 😢🏴
Im offended by this government
The party told you to reject what you see and ear, it was their final and most important command.
We should be worried about Starmer unstable thinking 🤔
I am watching from America, I am hoping the Brits can take back their country.
It's called "the chilling effect" - you're supposed to be scared.
I'm sick of hearing about the privilege of free speech... Free speech/thought/option is NOT a privilege that can be taken away,it's a GOD given HUMAN RIGHT. Please show me ANY document that puts the Government above GOD...
How to scare people by parasites
‘We will shortly be living in a world where anything not compulsory is illegal’
Was thinking of creating a safe room in case of bombs or nuclear war. But now am designing a place completely safe from communication from outside, so I can have thoughts that might have me arrested.
We could meet up and have think-ins
We are living the world of V for Vendetta. Maybe it’ll end the same way.
farmore likely that Starmer will get booted.
Thank you both.
Fuck the law my voice will always be heard...
Really , what have you said then?
How dare Starmer manipulate the law for political suppression of opposition! Disgusting!
What a horrible place to live ! Wow what is going on ?
Pretty soon access to these social media platforms will be monitored. You'll be forced to log in through a government gateway/portal. Broadband providers will be forced to comply.
Ironic indeed, Israel becomes like Nz Germany, UK becomes like Soviet Russia, we are becoming what we've fought against.
Don't be so naive! Especially against Israel!
It is not just the prosecutions that are a problem. Tbe censorship across the internet had been ramped up massively in the past month. Entire words and phrases are now much more likely to mean a post is never seen.
Turns out the law for hate speech is incredibly vague. Anything that is 'deemed' to be offensive, means any statement could be deemed offensive. This will have a chilling effect on discourse, and that in turn will effect society more broadly.
Put it this way, the Soviet Union was not in great shape when it collapsed.
Its when everyone has nothing to lose starmer et al should start to worry
Join the union, end the fear
Did you know Stamers mother was a toolmaker and his father was a nurse.
never plead guilty do not beleive the bs
We should all hold on to our freedom of speech...i won't be silenced.... Don't plead guilty if you know you are not guilty, 🤷
I for one am not scared and will never be silenced.
What's terrifying is someone saying 'I felt threatened by him' is now the same as 'he threatened me'. Life is like the show Utopia now, just ridiculously overprocessed, dishonest, manipulative nonsense that gets weaponised. I'm deeply, deeply concerned about this entire issue. I used to comment about it with great passion and conviction years ago online and people from all over the political spectrum had the nerve to abuse me online and ridicule me as a shrill, melodramatic fruitcake. Imagine being that dopey and slow.
I served in northern Ireland, the gulf War, Bosnia and Iraq. We were standing to give people in these countries freedom, of speech and liberty. Now these people come from these countries, excluding Northern Ireland, and attempt to take our liberties from us. I lost friends and nearly lost my own life so my answer to those who attempt to suppress me I say "not as my last breath is still in me, I will die on my feet rather than live on my knees".
Armistice day it is being noted when the standing prime minister falsely lays his wreath I ask all veterans to show him your backs.
He surrenders everything you fought for and pay respect to.
Who holds the government accountable? Who holds the prime minister accountable
Cracking down on free speech led to King George III losing the most valuable colony in the world.
im offended by everything starmer says
It’s all mad!! What’s happened to people. I remember a world of almost innocence but it’s ratcheted up into insanity
i remember a world where there was no internet, and life really was blissful, now the constant cacophony of millions of re*arded voices and opinions bombard us everyday, because its the idiots that scream the loudest, attention is their opiate.
I am English. Let us see what happens.
Paramilitary police in black uniforms just following orders?
Starmers state police
You forgot the rainbow.
I feel so horrible this is happening in the UK and soon to Canada.
Deliberately writing laws to be vague is a nasty trick. It's designed for the sole purpose to throw out a very broad net to serve up innocents for prosecution and thereby quieting the rest in the process.
No, it's not about prosecution at all. The purpose is to make people fear possible prosecution because they don't know what is against the law and therefore self-censor and not risk saying anything contentious.
Can we report Starmer for hate speech? I would imagine tha the police won't investigate any complaints but there might be enough numbers to make a point
They reported Humza Yuseless over his White Speech in Scotland.
Britain bites the bag these days.
And that’s just how heir starmer wants it
I see the threat of suing people outside the UK for mean tweets seems to have has gone very quiet.
Isn't the answer to refuse a caution and force them to prosecute. The courts will soon be clogged up.
So are the Police this is the problem
I’ll say what I like and Starmer can like it or lump it.
The police are really enjoying this as they are finally being allowed to carry out some sort of duty. As for the BRF, I’m all for getting rid of them after being a lifelong monarchist. How can William take over if he’s not behind the COE? I know a lot of people were upset at Charles choosing to defend the faiths instead of faith but in such a multicultural country, I felt it was the right move to include all of Britains people. I’m not COE so I’m not personally offended but we grew up having their importance drilled into us. If they are just for tourism, get shot of them and make money from the properties they currently enjoy exclusive rights to. I loved William but he’s just as woke as his brother. He merely conceals it better.
Speak now, while stocks last
You can't say that!!!
Clown world
Speak out everyone. Don't let them cow you