Your thoughts on this issue are not new to me. I’ve often said that I could putt well with a wooden 2x4 once I got used to the feel. I have an old style Acushnet Bullseye putter that I bought 40 years ago. It is very accurate on short putts and, at those distances, it does just as well as any Scotty Cameron that you can buy. But, on long putts, it doesn’t have the mass nor balance to get good results consistently. I’ve played a 2-ball Odyssey for years because it fits me well and I can’t be tempted by advertising gimmicks. I’m sticking with it and any putting deficiencies are with me, not the putter. Some days I putt great, some days, not so much. I’m an imperfect golfer. Great video. Thanks a million.
@@elderhiker7787 thanks. I’m thinking about posting a video next week of me putting with a homemade putter made out of a sprinkler head. I call it the drain bird 5000.
From my experience of 40 years of playing golf, I do believe different putter designs do help for different people. Say mallet vs blade. However a $100 vs $500 putter not so much.
I made 300 hundred putters (long putters) about 30 years ago. My design was simple, center-shafted, great MOI using lead in the ends of the head, zero loft, and the lie angle was the most upright the rules allow. I’m still using it and has rarely let me or my wife down. People are crazy spending so much money for a putter and buying into the marketing hype.
I played with a Ping Anser 2 for a long time. Someone stole it from my bag when my group made the turn to the back 9 one day and I went to the bathroom. I went on Ebay and found one just like it and bought it, put my favorite grip on it, and I was back in business. I might have spent $50? Anyway, over time I have done well with that putter. I recently was clearing out old equipment from the garage and sold a ton of old stuff, to include a lot of putters I have messed with along the way. I agree with everything you said in this video. The putter does not make you a good putter. Learning to putt well makes you a good putter. As I age, I have a good or bad score based on how well I am putting because I am taking more shots to reach the green. I offset with more wedge practice which gets the ball closer to the hole and resulted in fewer putts as well.
My old golf buddy used an ancient bullseye so worn out you couldn't read the makers name. When ill health forced his retirement he asked me if I wanted any of his clubs I asked for his putter thinking some of the magic might transfer. Sadly not.
11:28 this is actually something I've tested with a wilson tour special II so about as unforgiving as it gets. I purposely hit it off the toe or heel but still put a good stroke on it. All went straight, the ones off the heel almost even went the distance, the ones off the toe just came up a little short, but none of them were going left or right cause the face was still square at impact.
Great video !! If I wanted a LAB putter, could I just buy one off the shelf and not worry about getting fitted for one ?? They aren't going to fit you into a competitors putter (PXG), just theirs. I learned a lot from this video, please keep them coming, thanks !!
There are LAB putters on the shelf at many stores. Nothing like the hands-on experience. I was very surprised by how solid the DF felt. But if you're paying that much for a putter, bring your golf shoes and get fit for the best results.
I just got a cleveland HB soft 10.5 and i think its wonderful. Reasoably priced, i get along with it pretty well and it looks great. Id love to see a review of that line of putters
All very interesting! I have a putter with grooves that straighten the misshit putt, and i've never missed a 50 foot putt - that said, i've never had a 50 foot putt to try and make. 😅😅. Another great video, thanks 👍
i would really like to try a lab putter. i have several now, face balanced, toe hang and the heel toe ping answer type, mallet and blades. i think my stroke is maybe too much of arc and when i try more of a straight back and thru stroke it feels too manipulated, always working on it. i do not like to spend a ton on putters, alot of the ones i have i got in the bargain bin or rummaging. thnx for the insight.
Inserts probably don't matter, but I really prefer the feel of a white hot putter. That gives me more confidence so that helps. I've also noticed that heavier putters stay on line during the backswing more than a lighter putter.
Brilliant video, thanks. I've had a few "flat bats" in forty odd years of golf, and I rate myself as a good putter ... 14 single putts in a round, once (not all for birdies, of course). I now use a Teardrop blade, but I did have a Taylor Made Ghost Spider which was exceptional for distance control, and gave a Rolls-Royce feel, but there's so much going on with the "Starship Enterprise" head that I just don't seem to be able to aim the damn thing for shorter putts. I agree with you 100% about putter length. I see so many players with the butt somewhere under their armpit. Mine is around 31 inches, ok, I have long arms, but I'm certain it gives me much more stability and control. I don't do lines, smudges, tracks, or bands on my ball either. When Ronnie O'Sullivan uses a cue-ball with a line on I may consider it!
Would be interested in your take on adjustable/removeable weights in the clubhead. I find that I tend to hit my putts very slightly towards the toe, so I usually add some weight on the toe end (lead tape or change the adjustable weight pattern) to minimize the mishit. Also good for adjusting to different green speeds. Your thoughts.....??
Lot's of Pros use lead tape on their putters as an adjustment for various things including changing courses and green speeds. I did a review last spring on an adjustible...off course...putter by white putters that you could change heads, shafts weights grips everything and thought it was very cool. Tiger's famous Scotty Cameron had lead tape on it quite often. Several current putters have adjustable weights and I think that experimenting with those is great if you play in constantly changing conditions or different courses in different areas every week. Your use of weight to adjust for your stroke seems like a good idea to me
SeeMore rifle scope tech. is a game change innovation IMHO. When Zack Johnson was winning he used a SeeMore likewise switching to a SeeMore coincided with Payne Stewart's big win.
I'm not sure it is a technology shift or game changing but do agree with you that their Rifle Scope aiming system does help make sure the putter face is square to the line your eyes are on,
I switch between two putters based on how well I'm hitting my irons. If irons are good I use a Wilson Tour Special Forged (free) that I found 25' up in a pine tree back in 1974. Ten feet and in it's deadly. If irons aren't doing well I use a Yes (new but an older model $40) blade putter that is much heavier and more consistent than the Wilson at longer putting distances. Sometimes I carry both. I play a little outside to box. Sometimes I carry one left-handed club in case I draw a drive a little too much.
@@misteroneputt Honestly, my Dad saw it and made me go up there to get it. When I came down and handed it to him he said he didn't want it. I got it, it's mine. I was pissed to say the least but after playing it I knew I would have it forever.
So are you saying at least the new LAB putters do help with the technology? Could you take a look at the PXG Allan Putter? I think that's to be the LAB competitor. Thanks!
@@brih8006 I’ve never heard of that, but will look into it. I’m posting a review tomorrow of the PXG Allen putter, which they claim always points the face at the target.
First let me say, I am not sure about part of what I am about to say. First putting has changed. The "release" (swing) is very important as Crenshaw finally proved to everyone. Me too. These parts are true. But it just may be that certain putters have better swing balance when released. I say this because some top pros ditch their putter claiming they do not like the balance and feel it has. And that often works. I need to check this out myself.
I'd like to hear what you think of the Evnroll zero. I was a 13 handicap in March and I've been a 7 since june. I previously used a Ping Darby for 6 years, between the pushes and pulls I hit my line maybe 40% of the time. I was a lousy putter! With the Zero, I roll my line maybe 90% of the time. I've probably 3 putted a dozen times in 40 rounds since I bought it, last year and every previous year I lived by the 3 putt. The Evnroll is saving me an average of 5-6 strokes per round. Say what you will...it did for me what you're saying putters can't do.
@@robertdulaney7622 the Evnroll zero is a great putter it is made in such a way as to reduce torque and is also zero loft like the putter I use. I think your success with it’s a combination of it being a quality putter and your confidence in it. Also Evnroll doesn’t make any fake marketing claims
LAB was LATE to the party concerning toque balanced putters. Not a bad putter though. There are many others who use the same principle and use different menchanical solutions. My old backstryke sort of had it after retuning (Odyssey did a louzy job on balancing) Bobby Grace had ans has several putters (he knows production and design) otherwise try Edel (less weeigth in the toe) and LBNL Axis really is on a streak with their putters. One element you seem to forget is variable face angles. This feature has seen many varieties over time with the most recognizable: sik.
I always looked at Scotty Camerons as basically Golf Gucci. I'll take an Odyssey Tri Hot or Taylormade Spider any day. A Scotty is purely for showing off or I guess some kind of extrinsic confidence that will wear off.
Is using Quintic and SAM to evaluate how you strike and roll the ball with your putter just more marketing and trying to sell you on a new putter? Is it worth the cost of having it done?
Great question. I think the data is valuable but only serious professionals and coaches should purchase that equipment or software. I think the data and info can help you make changes or corrections to your stroke, set up etc. without spending big money on a new putter or expensive equipment. And of course there are coaches and online courses like the one I've created who can give you the information and techniques to get all those things right for much less. I probably would discourage you from paying for a SAM Lab or Quintic session unless you are trying to get on the tour or get a college scholarship etc.
Great video exposing the BS that manufacturers pump. I play a Ben Sayers groove sole blade, balance and feel is superb. I'm 68 and it's at least 1 year older than I am - you should do a review on them. Lost available on eBay.
@@simmi352 I think those are great. That is the biggest point and advantage of weight distribution to the heel and toe as far as possible. It helps maintain consistent distance when you don’t hit the ball dead in the sweet spot thank you.
4:40 Golfers use the OEM brand which won the recent major tournament. Best go and get fitted. Lie 4 A $500 putter wont make 5x more putts than a $100 putter
I use a Titleist Dead Center putter from about 1985 and I putt better than all of my friends who have spent thousands over the years on all the new gimmicks. I've only had to re-grip it several times. It's not the putter but the hundreds of hours practicing with something that is comfortable for you that will make you better.
@@danaknudson866 I’m trying to get my hands on one locally to test and review. Will keep you updated but expect to have a video on that in the next couple of weeks
I putt best with an old offset blade. Whenever I use mallets, I doubt my alignment. With the blade, all I do is look at the hole and putt. No face insert making the ball go faster. No lines to distract me.
i bought into the centre shaft being an OAP in the UK I will never a HONU I can get at Cleveland Huntington Beach Soft 10.5CS Mens or odyssey Versa 12 Center Shaft & Eleven Tour Lined Centershaft OS do you have any opinion on these please
@@andykennedy2847 I like either of those putters and center shafted simply means center shafted it doesn’t mean that it is weight or mass balanced or has zero torque. My point in this video is that any new technology other than moving the weight to the perimeter or reducing the actual torque in the Putter during the swing is simply Marketing.
@@danaknudson866 it is not. It is balanced in a way with the actual neck that attaches from the shaft to the putter reduces torque and increases MOI, but it is not truly mass balanced , and zero torque. So it is an improvement but not huge like LAB or Honu. PXG claims that their new Allan putter has zero torque but my local golf shop doesn’t have one for me to test yet. Axis is similar I should say but not the same as LAB or Honu
#5 u are incorrect imo.. , certain technology (Sik) gets the balls rolling sooner to reduce skidding, which in turn makes it go online more often #6 heavy putters are used because some people can't control a lighter head, it's easier to keep it online, I have a Lab Mezz Max and all my Scotty's and Oddysey's are on my display shelf. I live near Revere, let's have a putting contest!! 😁
Whenever you like...there is actually plenty of research on super slo motion video to show that sik doesn't get the ball rolling as qucikly as several other brands. I certainly said in the video that some technology is an improvment. The LAB brand I specifically mentioned as better and you say you play one. Certainly a heavy putter would help some people control speed...I was very clear that the lie is Heavier Putters roll the ball straight...not the same as speed.
It seems like with the putter, it’s all about confidence. If I am more confident with a $5.00 Putter rather than a $500 Putter, I’ll be better with it.
just like anything with this game, if you look down at your club, Iron, Driver, Putter and the look gives you confidence. you will want to practice more, then play more and magically you get better. Or buy one of my 20 videos on how to play the game!! LMAO
@@misteroneputt No I believe you covered the largest deceptions used by manufacturer and retailers to obtain sales of the next new thing. But confidence in you putter is the biggest key in performance, this gained from performance not change of equipment.
Positive Putters started in 1975 and achieved zero torque using a side saddle style. They have been tested in LAB Golf's revealer and Honu's honuizer and are not 100% torque free. But you are correct there is nothing new under the sun...the idea of zero torque has been around for years...But lately more and more companies are figuring out how to implement it....for example the blades from LAB or the new Allan from PXG...not sure about it, but testing one next week.
I like your channel and I have subscribed but You would benefit by re-doing this video. It is self-contradictory and some of the physics is not correct.. Thanks. Keep up the good content.
@@Reidgaillard Hi Reid. I appreciate your feedback. Email me what is inaccurate and self contradictory and I’ll certainly consider a re-do. I think this type of video is helpful but I want it to always be better
@@misteroneputt In any case I love your content brother and you are helping me put the best I ever have. So is my armlock putter that I built from an old Ping Pal 5. Cheers from Australia.
I have thousands of slow motion videos from face impact. I tested 32 different face materials and grove designs to develop a face that promotes more forward roll and less skip. I tested this against all the big brands. I can tell you that you are in fact wrong. I have also tested lots of brands with my robot putter arm and can tell you that on heel 20mm centre and toe 20mm strikes the putter you have has a massive difference in the total length and direction of the putt. Scope Putters was the best in this testing and the LAB Mez was the worst with a shocking result from heel strikes.
Lies 6,7,8 are the best. Mind blowing information. Thanks. Great stuff.
@@doctorstripclub8247 thank you
Your thoughts on this issue are not new to me. I’ve often said that I could putt well with a wooden 2x4 once I got used to the feel. I have an old style Acushnet Bullseye putter that I bought 40 years ago. It is very accurate on short putts and, at those distances, it does just as well as any Scotty Cameron that you can buy. But, on long putts, it doesn’t have the mass nor balance to get good results consistently. I’ve played a 2-ball Odyssey for years because it fits me well and I can’t be tempted by advertising gimmicks. I’m sticking with it and any putting deficiencies are with me, not the putter. Some days I putt great, some days, not so much. I’m an imperfect golfer. Great video. Thanks a million.
@@elderhiker7787 thanks. I’m thinking about posting a video next week of me putting with a homemade putter made out of a sprinkler head. I call it the drain bird 5000.
From my experience of 40 years of playing golf, I do believe different putter designs do help for different people. Say mallet vs blade. However a $100 vs $500 putter not so much.
I made 300 hundred putters (long putters) about 30 years ago. My design was simple, center-shafted, great MOI using lead in the ends of the head, zero loft, and the lie angle was the most upright the rules allow. I’m still using it and has rarely let me or my wife down. People are crazy spending so much money for a putter and buying into the marketing hype.
@@gerrymcintosh4477 that’s cool and yes. So much marketing
I played with a Ping Anser 2 for a long time. Someone stole it from my bag when my group made the turn to the back 9 one day and I went to the bathroom. I went on Ebay and found one just like it and bought it, put my favorite grip on it, and I was back in business. I might have spent $50? Anyway, over time I have done well with that putter. I recently was clearing out old equipment from the garage and sold a ton of old stuff, to include a lot of putters I have messed with along the way. I agree with everything you said in this video. The putter does not make you a good putter. Learning to putt well makes you a good putter. As I age, I have a good or bad score based on how well I am putting because I am taking more shots to reach the green. I offset with more wedge practice which gets the ball closer to the hole and resulted in fewer putts as well.
One of the best local players I’ve known used a Bullseye putter, about as low-tech as there is.
My old golf buddy used an ancient bullseye so worn out you couldn't read the makers name. When ill health forced his retirement he asked me if I wanted any of his clubs I asked for his putter thinking some of the magic might transfer. Sadly not.
11:28 this is actually something I've tested with a wilson tour special II so about as unforgiving as it gets. I purposely hit it off the toe or heel but still put a good stroke on it. All went straight, the ones off the heel almost even went the distance, the ones off the toe just came up a little short, but none of them were going left or right cause the face was still square at impact.
I stick to LAB now …. My issue was always heal out or toe out first and it drove me nuts …. My LAB fixed that and I’m happy
Great video !! If I wanted a LAB putter, could I just buy one off the shelf and not worry about getting fitted for one ?? They aren't going to fit you into a competitors putter (PXG), just theirs. I learned a lot from this video, please keep them coming, thanks !!
@@kellygordon232 for a LAB or the new PXG Allan you really do need to be fitted. It’s helpful for the balance
There are LAB putters on the shelf at many stores. Nothing like the hands-on experience. I was very surprised by how solid the DF felt. But if you're paying that much for a putter, bring your golf shoes and get fit for the best results.
@@lkae4 agree
I just got a cleveland HB soft 10.5 and i think its wonderful. Reasoably priced, i get along with it pretty well and it looks great. Id love to see a review of that line of putters
Please review the SQ5 putter from Performance Golf.
I like the balance feature. Setting up the shaft and face has been different.
Fantastic video. Thank you very much 👍
All very interesting! I have a putter with grooves that straighten the misshit putt, and i've never missed a 50 foot putt - that said, i've never had a 50 foot putt to try and make. 😅😅. Another great video, thanks 👍
@@chrisdorsett1062 lol. Perfect. That’s one way to never miss.
Good video! Wish you would have mentioned the "Honeymoon Phase" we all go through with putters.😂
@@marybetheby5184 good point.
maltby pure-track tour milled ptm-1 blade putter is every bit as good as the Scotty Cameron’s I have had.
Great Video. I like and subscribed.
Some people just can't get the feel , or read a green + speed of stroke are all factors no miracle putters out there
i would really like to try a lab putter. i have several now, face balanced, toe hang and the heel toe ping answer type, mallet and blades. i think my stroke is maybe too much of arc and when i try more of a straight back and thru stroke it feels too manipulated, always working on it. i do not like to spend a ton on putters, alot of the ones i have i got in the bargain bin or rummaging. thnx for the insight.
love it. find your stroke, then a putter that feels right.
Inserts probably don't matter, but I really prefer the feel of a white hot putter. That gives me more confidence so that helps. I've also noticed that heavier putters stay on line during the backswing more than a lighter putter.
@@FullContactDrummer confidence is probably the most important thing
Brilliant video, thanks. I've had a few "flat bats" in forty odd years of golf, and I rate myself as a good putter ... 14 single putts in a round, once (not all for birdies, of course). I now use a Teardrop blade, but I did have a Taylor Made Ghost Spider which was exceptional for distance control, and gave a Rolls-Royce feel, but there's so much going on with the "Starship Enterprise" head that I just don't seem to be able to aim the damn thing for shorter putts. I agree with you 100% about putter length. I see so many players with the butt somewhere under their armpit. Mine is around 31 inches, ok, I have long arms, but I'm certain it gives me much more stability and control. I don't do lines, smudges, tracks, or bands on my ball either. When Ronnie O'Sullivan uses a cue-ball with a line on I may consider it!
@@misdit best comment so far. Thank you. And if I’m playing pool, I need a cube ball with a line. Lol
I have a Scotty Futura, a Honu, a Sik, a 3D Cobra, a Breeds Confidence and a Rife, all favorites.
Yes...I have the putter addiction too.
I was custom fitted with a PXG, it’s answer style hybrid.
Brilliant. Dou
Great info..
Thanks
Would be interested in your take on adjustable/removeable weights in the clubhead. I find that I tend to hit my putts very slightly towards the toe, so I usually add some weight on the toe end (lead tape or change the adjustable weight pattern) to minimize the mishit. Also good for adjusting to different green speeds. Your thoughts.....??
Lot's of Pros use lead tape on their putters as an adjustment for various things including changing courses and green speeds. I did a review last spring on an adjustible...off course...putter by white putters that you could change heads, shafts weights grips everything and thought it was very cool. Tiger's famous Scotty Cameron had lead tape on it quite often. Several current putters have adjustable weights and I think that experimenting with those is great if you play in constantly changing conditions or different courses in different areas every week. Your use of weight to adjust for your stroke seems like a good idea to me
SeeMore rifle scope tech. is a game change innovation IMHO. When Zack Johnson was winning he used a SeeMore likewise switching to a SeeMore coincided with Payne Stewart's big win.
I'm not sure it is a technology shift or game changing but do agree with you that their Rifle Scope aiming system does help make sure the putter face is square to the line your eyes are on,
Thanks John love my honu
Excellent information.Thank you.
@@raykeogh8533 thank you
I switch between two putters based on how well I'm hitting my irons. If irons are good I use a Wilson Tour Special Forged (free) that I found 25' up in a pine tree back in 1974. Ten feet and in it's deadly. If irons aren't doing well I use a Yes (new but an older model $40) blade putter that is much heavier and more consistent than the Wilson at longer putting distances. Sometimes I carry both. I play a little outside to box. Sometimes I carry one left-handed club in case I draw a drive a little too much.
Interesting...good stuff. Finding a putter 25' up in a Pine Tree...love that one.
@@misteroneputt Honestly, my Dad saw it and made me go up there to get it. When I came down and handed it to him he said he didn't want it. I got it, it's mine. I was pissed to say the least but after playing it I knew I would have it forever.
So are you saying at least the new LAB putters do help with the technology? Could you take a look at the PXG Allan Putter? I think that's to be the LAB competitor. Thanks!
@@ekhanh101 yes. Review of the Allan coming next week
Delta Putt! You should do a review. Really helps you get a square face-to-ball contact.
@@brih8006 I’ve never heard of that, but will look into it. I’m posting a review tomorrow of the PXG Allen putter, which they claim always points the face at the target.
First let me say, I am not sure about part of what I am about to say. First putting has changed. The "release" (swing) is very important as Crenshaw finally proved to everyone. Me too. These parts are true. But it just may be that certain putters have better swing balance when released. I say this because some top pros ditch their putter claiming they do not like the balance and feel it has. And that often works. I need to check this out myself.
Certainly agree with you on that
I'd like to hear what you think of the Evnroll zero. I was a 13 handicap in March and I've been a 7 since june. I previously used a Ping Darby for 6 years, between the pushes and pulls I hit my line maybe 40% of the time. I was a lousy putter! With the Zero, I roll my line maybe 90% of the time. I've probably 3 putted a dozen times in 40 rounds since I bought it, last year and every previous year I lived by the 3 putt. The Evnroll is saving me an average of 5-6 strokes per round. Say what you will...it did for me what you're saying putters can't do.
@@robertdulaney7622 the Evnroll zero is a great putter it is made in such a way as to reduce torque and is also zero loft like the putter I use. I think your success with it’s a combination of it being a quality putter and your confidence in it. Also Evnroll doesn’t make any fake marketing claims
Maybe you just got better as well with repeated practice
LAB was LATE to the party concerning toque balanced putters. Not a bad putter though. There are many others who use the same principle and use different menchanical solutions. My old backstryke sort of had it after retuning (Odyssey did a louzy job on balancing) Bobby Grace had ans has several putters (he knows production and design) otherwise try Edel (less weeigth in the toe) and LBNL Axis really is on a streak with their putters.
One element you seem to forget is variable face angles. This feature has seen many varieties over time with the most recognizable: sik.
@@bga9388 I didn’t cover variable faces but did show a picture of one. Good catch. Yes LAB was late. They’ve done lots of good marketing
I always looked at Scotty Camerons as basically Golf Gucci. I'll take an Odyssey Tri Hot or Taylormade Spider any day. A Scotty is purely for showing off or I guess some kind of extrinsic confidence that will wear off.
@@TheBruceKeller that’s a good way to look at it
Is using Quintic and SAM to evaluate how you strike and roll the ball with your putter just more marketing and trying to sell you on a new putter? Is it worth the cost of having it done?
Great question. I think the data is valuable but only serious professionals and coaches should purchase that equipment or software. I think the data and info can help you make changes or corrections to your stroke, set up etc. without spending big money on a new putter or expensive equipment. And of course there are coaches and online courses like the one I've created who can give you the information and techniques to get all those things right for much less. I probably would discourage you from paying for a SAM Lab or Quintic session unless you are trying to get on the tour or get a college scholarship etc.
Great video exposing the BS that manufacturers pump.
I play a Ben Sayers groove sole blade, balance and feel is superb. I'm 68 and it's at least 1 year older than I am - you should do a review on them. Lost available on eBay.
What do you think about evnroll or AI putter that supposedly normalises ball speed on mishits?
@@simmi352 I think those are great. That is the biggest point and advantage of weight distribution to the heel and toe as far as possible. It helps maintain consistent distance when you don’t hit the ball dead in the sweet spot thank you.
4:40 Golfers use the OEM brand which won the recent major tournament.
Best go and get fitted.
Lie 4
A $500 putter wont make 5x more putts than a $100 putter
Do you think armlock is new tech? I love it.
@@kentbrown3736 new technique but not really a change in the putter itself. It does help many people.
I use a Titleist Dead Center putter from about 1985 and I putt better than all of my friends who have spent thousands over the years on all the new gimmicks. I've only had to re-grip it several times. It's not the putter but the hundreds of hours practicing with something that is comfortable for you that will make you better.
Exactly
Have you checked out PXG Allan putter? Supposed to be torque free.
@@danaknudson866 I’m trying to get my hands on one locally to test and review. Will keep you updated but expect to have a video on that in the next couple of weeks
I putt best with an old offset blade. Whenever I use mallets, I doubt my alignment. With the blade, all I do is look at the hole and putt. No face insert making the ball go faster. No lines to distract me.
@@keithpanco exactly technology is nice, but the most important thing is do you feel comfortable and confident with the putter you have in your hand
Have you seen the new pxg Allan putter that claims to be balanced in the same way that the lab putter are? Odd be curious on your thoughts on it
@@chadthiel9869 I’m actually trying one out next week. Will update soon
i bought into the centre shaft being an OAP in the UK I will never a HONU I can get at Cleveland Huntington Beach Soft 10.5CS Mens or odyssey Versa 12 Center Shaft & Eleven Tour Lined Centershaft OS do you have any opinion on these please
@@andykennedy2847 I like either of those putters and center shafted simply means center shafted it doesn’t mean that it is weight or mass balanced or has zero torque. My point in this video is that any new technology other than moving the weight to the perimeter or reducing the actual torque in the Putter during the swing is simply Marketing.
Please review PXG Allan putter zero torque
@@bens6817 ua-cam.com/video/E8vEVO3MDZw/v-deo.htmlsi=yE8OrLZ-cyhx9Rut
@@bens6817 I did
@@misteroneputt Thank you
r u using a BLM Kotahni grip? I had one but only lasted 1 season
@@bournefree I am. I’m on my 3rd one in 5 years, but use it 3-4 times a week
@@misteroneputt thanks, i loved the grip yet cant afford a new grip each year, 2 years maybe... love your videos
I call my Honu "the lock" when I'm putting well.
@@journeyman291 yes it does look like a padlock
What about Axis 1 putter? Is that not same tech as LAB and Honu? In fact they had torque free putters 1st in 2009 I believe.
@@danaknudson866 it is not. It is balanced in a way with the actual neck that attaches from the shaft to the putter reduces torque and increases MOI, but it is not truly mass balanced , and zero torque. So it is an improvement but not huge like LAB or Honu. PXG claims that their new Allan putter has zero torque but my local golf shop doesn’t have one for me to test yet. Axis is similar I should say but not the same as LAB or Honu
Ok.. thanks, good to know!
#5 u are incorrect imo.. , certain technology (Sik) gets the balls rolling sooner to reduce skidding, which in turn makes it go online more often #6 heavy putters are used because some people can't control a lighter head, it's easier to keep it online, I have a Lab Mezz Max and all my Scotty's and Oddysey's are on my display shelf. I live near Revere, let's have a putting contest!! 😁
Whenever you like...there is actually plenty of research on super slo motion video to show that sik doesn't get the ball rolling as qucikly as several other brands. I certainly said in the video that some technology is an improvment. The LAB brand I specifically mentioned as better and you say you play one. Certainly a heavy putter would help some people control speed...I was very clear that the lie is Heavier Putters roll the ball straight...not the same as speed.
How about testing the new PXG Allan putter
@@johnfish3842 yep. That is coming as soon as I can get my hands on one without harming my bank account
It seems like with the putter, it’s all about confidence. If I am more confident with a $5.00 Putter rather than a $500 Putter, I’ll be better with it.
@@Criscross292 completely agree
Just wondered John why all putters aren't balanced ? Maybe too pricey ?
@@jackbowman4788 hard to shaft them unless a mallet shape. Takes time and skill that machines in a factory don’t really have.
Playing with a 7 year old taylomade ardmore 3 putter seems to work for me
When did putters start costing 400 to 700?? Wow
@@tfsnousa not sure when. But there’s a ton of them over $500 on the market now
$375 edel fitting and putter lasted in my bag about 2 months before i went back to my 1976 ping anser….
@@barrymac1951 I have a feeling that a lot of people can relate to that experience, which is part of why I did this video
When you spend over 1000$ on a new LAB putter but someone out putts you with a 100$ putter. Sadness.
@@drakezen so true
just like anything with this game, if you look down at your club, Iron, Driver, Putter and the look gives you confidence. you will want to practice more, then play more and magically you get better. Or buy one of my 20 videos on how to play the game!! LMAO
Odysseys win majors every year and they go on sale all the time. That's the baseline. Anything more is a luxury toy.
@@lkae4 and they were the one with the misplaced insert but yes. But you can’t buy the Odysseys used on tour…so customized as to not be the same
I use 4 ping putters. BECU B60, PAL2, Zing2, and Anser 3. It’s the Putter, not the putter.
honu and lab putters can twist due to slight wrist rotation. talk about expensive putters both honu and lab putters are both north of $350.
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It's not the putter, it's the Putter.
@@rikclarke4881 exactly
Lie number max you need a new putter I have been using the same putter for the last 30 years and have no intention of getting a new one.
Robert
@@roberttoutaint199 excellent point. Should have done 12-15 lies and made 3 videos. LOL
@@misteroneputt No I believe you covered the largest deceptions used by manufacturer and retailers to obtain sales of the next new thing. But confidence in you putter is the biggest key in performance, this gained from performance not change of equipment.
@@roberttoutaint199 exactly it’s confidence in yourself and your stroke and then whatever you use really doesn’t matter that much
Positive Putters preceded LAB putters by years... nothing new under the sun
Positive Putters started in 1975 and achieved zero torque using a side saddle style. They have been tested in LAB Golf's revealer and Honu's honuizer and are not 100% torque free. But you are correct there is nothing new under the sun...the idea of zero torque has been around for years...But lately more and more companies are figuring out how to implement it....for example the blades from LAB or the new Allan from PXG...not sure about it, but testing one next week.
I like your channel and I have subscribed but You would benefit by re-doing this video. It is self-contradictory and some of the physics is not correct.. Thanks. Keep up the good content.
@@Reidgaillard Hi Reid. I appreciate your feedback. Email me what is inaccurate and self contradictory and I’ll certainly consider a re-do. I think this type of video is helpful but I want it to always be better
What the hell is on your head?
@@kentbrown3736 what ? Sunshine ? Glare ?
@@misteroneputt I don't know. The video made it look like you were wearing rubber cap thing. Sorry. I love your videos by the way.
@@kentbrown3736 no worries. Sometimes the sun or lightning on video makes it look like I’m wearing a bald head cover. Lol
@@misteroneputt In any case I love your content brother and you are helping me put the best I ever have. So is my armlock putter that I built from an old Ping Pal 5. Cheers from Australia.
@@kentbrown3736 that’s cool on the armlock
I have thousands of slow motion videos from face impact. I tested 32 different face materials and grove designs to develop a face that promotes more forward roll and less skip. I tested this against all the big brands.
I can tell you that you are in fact wrong.
I have also tested lots of brands with my robot putter arm and can tell you that on heel 20mm centre and toe 20mm strikes the putter you have has a massive difference in the total length and direction of the putt. Scope Putters was the best in this testing and the LAB Mez was the worst with a shocking result from heel strikes.
@@chipolonie interesting. Seems you are getting different results than other testers and labs who have published their test results
Your not talking about lies, your talking about FRAUD! Did you bring this to the attention of the authorities, the store or the manufacturers?