All three over-60 year old liberal Karens? Honestly, it does seem like Subaru is hiding something though. It seems to me Subaru is doing their own investigation, instead of NTSB or third party.
Watch the video at 0.30 when it hits the truck no brake lights. The issue when you accidentally push the gas instead of the brake is you think you are on the brake so the harder you push to stop the faster you go.
I will say that this has happened to me with my 2001 Olds Aurora years ago. But I noticed the acceleration immediately and stepped on the brake. Had to stay on the brake just to go the speed limit. The motor was racing like a run-away engine. I pulled into a parking lot and shut my car off. When I turned it back on the issue didnt happen again but I'm not sure why it did it in the first place.
My mother was at a bank and pushed the gas pedal rather than the brake pedal. She went flying through the parking lot pressing harder and harder then threw the pontiac in park to stop. She admits she pushed the wrong pedal after a few days. Embarrassment and not wanting to lose your license, and hopes of a lawsuit, make people lie.
They believed they were pressing the right pedal. Just like someone not paying attention to traffic when they are driving. That is why auto manufacturers developed blind spot monitoring & brake assist. Human error & humans not taking everything in around them are root the cause of almost all accidents.
@@chrisfrank8413 ??? Go Back to the Toyota accelerator issues. It ended up being a floor mat or human error. I have noticed the floor mat would cover up the accelerator pedal after I put it back in after vacuuming on many occasions.
As a tech. I can promise you Freeze data will clear all this up. Meaning a proper scanner will tell you everything about all the properties and driving conditions when the car crashed. Its spot on
@@jeretso good eye! I think someone else said that when people mistake the gas for the brake they stomp down on the gas too. And I don't think only "old people" get confused, so the data recorded in the computer will be key!
3 Old lady's with the same issue. Definitely cannot be operator fault... They want to blame their cars but the white outback in the first video, break lights never came on. Maybe it's time for them to stop driving. Where are the other drivers who claim to have the same issues? It seems to me people who don't know how to drive are just looking to make money. Cars data recorder will prove everything.
Um... in the video there were no brake lights.. So you were either on the gas thinking you were on the brake or you failed to hit the brakes at all. Know the dead give away?... Remember the Toyota Prius unintended accelleration lawsuits from 09/10 and how manufacturers all started putting brake overrides in their cars shortly thereafter? Yeah.. Subarus has been standard since 2013, and all 3 in the video were 2016.
@@PURENT I waited three months last year when I odered my six-speed Crosstrek. This choice paid off Thanksgiving weekend when half the cars on my street were burgled several stolen, and while my luggage was scattered down the street, they didn't steal my car, or my five-speed Frontier.
they were all headed to an anti-MAGA, protect democracy, Brandon Ice Cream social, so they were in a hurry. Oh, and they are never wrong about anything.
I was walking in a grocery store parking lot and witnessed an elderly woman in a Mercedes 300E take out five cars repeatedly backing up and then going forward while flooring the accelerator. I had to bolt away as cars were being crushed and flung aside. She, of course, claimed she was on the brake the whole time. BTW, I have two Subarus, a manual WRX and new CVT Impreza RS. They don’t do this.
@@TraceyAllen it’s a super solid, great riding, handling, roomy and capable car with a responsive power train. It’s not a hot hatch but goes and steers just fine. My first CVT and it is unnoticeable other than it and engine operate exactly how I expect it to. Great safety systems and 36 mpg plus a 500 mile range make it a perfect road trip car.
If your vehicle accelerates on it's own put it in neutral before hitting the brakes. My old silverado had a faulty cruise control, it would go full throttle on it's own but only when cruise control was turned on. I never got into an accident because I knew how to deal with it.
That happened to me with cruise control once. It wasn’t a Silverado though. I think it happened because I had pressed the “Resume” button too early. So now I just decide to only use cruise control on flat freeways with clear traffic and weather instead of places where I frequently have to stop or slow down.
Sometime old driver tends to push the wrong pedal. But still in their mind insists the right pedal. Thats what happens when people getting old, is natural
You'd be surprised how many cars I work on for a living that have 3 set the floor mats on them some of the completely covered in the gas pedal which seems to be oblivious to the customers always note these on the repair order but it never seems to change.
Honestly it seems like they are the ones that caused it. They probably pushed on the accelerator trying to go for the brake. Plus if she was supposedly pressing on the brake pedal, I didn’t see any brake lights in the video of the one crashing into the truck. I don’t really see how a car just suddenly accelerates on its own out of nowhere.
@@ellieprice363 I don’t know about mostly women particularly always having the problem but if they say they were pushing on the brake pedal, I would like to see how this plays out in court if that video gets involved with no brake lights on.
@@ellieprice363 It's usually just geriatrics. 86 year old man mistook the pedals in 2003 at a Santa Monica Farmers market, killed 10 people, injured 70 more before finally coming to a stop.
As a Subaru owner, my guess is after market floor mats. They can trap the gas pedal once pressed and cause the vehicle to keep going faster even though your foot is off the gas. Why doesn't anyone ever put the car in neutral when this happens. It's right above drive and some automatics can be put in neutral while driving by just pushing the shifter foward.
Or a floor math with creases on the accelerator too ,once happened to me with a car for lucky the gearbox was neutral and when happened floor down the brakes
Just because someone is a pilot doesn't for one second prove that they also know how to drive (I would hope they do, but they are not the same, knowing how to operate one doesn't mean you can operate the other). Talk about false equivalency. Do better.
@@briantii I remember a story about some USAF pilots out on a runway at an airbase somewhere. Talking after (or maybe before) a mission. There were a handful of people there. One of them saw some silvery shiny thing in the distance that was making extremely crazy moves in the air. Suddenly moving this way and that, making moves that would cause anything they knew of to rip itself apart if they even tried. (It basically moved like so many UFOs/UAPs do in video and anecdotes, that was how the pilot describing it, described its movements.) Leading the whole group to start to guess what the USAF was testing or whatnot. This continued for a little while before one of them realized that what they all thought was a large object at a distance, was actually a shiny balloon at a much closer distance. The mystery aircraft was just a balloon dancing in the wind and reflecting the sun. This fooled a bunch of trained USAF guys for longer than any of them really wanted to admit. Moral of the story is that just because you are a trained pilot doesn't mean you are an expert in all things up in the air and can easily make mistakes. Let alone any other activity. All being a trained pilot means is that you are a trained pilot. addendum: Flying anything takes a certain level of ability. Be it remembering what the gazillion gauges and dials and buttons do on a jetliner, or being able to judge the terrain to see what effect it might have on the air above it (like those box canyons out west that destroy so many light aircraft with their downdrafts that are faster than the planes climb speed). So it really isn't something really dumb people can do. I have a level of admiration for anyone who can fly at all. So by no means is any of this disparagement of pilots. Instead it is me simply understanding that pilots aren't some mythical group of demigods. They are just people, people who have been trained for a highly skilled position, but people nonetheless.
No brake lights can be seen on the video. Meaning no braking was ever done only accelerating. These people are all old, and old drivers are the least safe because of their ability to make so many mistakes and never even notice it.
That happened to me in my 2003 CRV. The pedal got caught under the floor mats. I immediately realized what had happened, put it in neutral, and adjusted the mat with my feet. It was my own fault because I didn't install the mats correctly. All I had to do was hook them under the seat. Luckily, nothing happened.
As a Subaru owner, there's no way unless they disabled safety features manually. The automatic braking is so sensitive you literally cannot deliberately drive into anything head on without it slamming the brakes - even tall grass will bring it to a halt.
@@WNicole1993 Throttle cables getting jammed on fully mechanical cars (and airplanes) was/is an actual thing. So you can say "old cars were better", but it isn't really true.
I have worked at many retail stores. I just want to take a moment of silence to all those trees that gave their lives to "driver error" aka "accelerator issues".
on most every vehicle made in the last 15 years, there is NO connection between the gas pedal and the engine. the gas pedal is just a sensor that transmits a signal to the throttle on the engine. it's all computer controlled.
I remember when my throttle got stuck on my car once I noticed right away and put it in neutral. After I got it to the shoulder I got out and found my throttle petal was stuck on the floor mate
Normal for automatic cars, I've seen them jump out of gear reverse down a hill and almost hit a baby. The clutch driver always uses a handbrake, compared to an auto driver. If it was manual, she would have stalled it obviously
As always, it's from people hitting the gas rather than the brake pedal or their floor mats were on top of the gas pedal. People need to stop making lies up in hopes of getting money. People don't realize every car's computer records everything they do in the car including radio level, seatbelts, gas pedal, brake pedal positions, etc. the gas pedal can't move on it's own. It's physically impossible.
Take their drivers license away before they ram into mass crowd. The brake light wasnt on when it hit the truck mesning she pressed the pas pedal instead. Look at their age.
We had several of these exact complaints at my Subaru dealer. There's plenty of fail safes and sensors to prove this is driver error. I even had a lady complain about the floor mats OEM and weather tech not go far enough to protect around the gas pedal, I said mam that's by design!!!
I've been looking on the nhtsa site for car ratings and I saw many complaints about various Subarus having this issue. I don't think I saw it anywhere else on the other brands I was looking at. Could it be faulty eyesight technology? I was considering getting one but now I'm concerned.
@blissfuljoy6049 yea, well, personal accountability is long gone. They don't want their license taken away, don't want insurance rates to go up. It's not the Subarus fault.
@blissfuljoy6049 possibly but very doubtful because again these cars have so many sensors that you can easily tell by scanning it that the gas pedal was pressed.
@@KenneMCL I've heard that too and hopefully anything negative would be caught for sure. I don't know much about computer mechanics in cars but my car has had issues in the past with EVAP system that I was told would show on the scan tool but for whatever reason, it didn't. It made trouble shooting very frustrating.
Tell me you don't own a modern Subaru without telling me you don't own a modern Subaru. I've got an Outback and there is no way for that mat to block the brake pedal. Especially from behind.
I pointed out to my mother after cleaning her 2020 Forester how poorly the matt is attached to the floor. I am betting floor matt issue for sure that started these instances, followed by panic and not moving their feet over to the brake pedal instead.
In December 2023 there was a horrific car crash at the Canadian border in Niagara Falls. The car was a 2018 Bentley. Bentley has a recall for this year because they can accelerate out of control. These are "Electrical Issues". You no longer have a cable to control the speed, it is now just a wire to the computer.
“We”ve been married 58 years….and she still can’t drive” is what he should’ve said. Noting one is an airline pilot, there’s a difference having a pilots license and being a commercial pilot, take note to their wording. If she can’t drive a car, than she definitely shouldn’t be operating an aircraft.
Two things come to mind when I hear this. Some people have two floor mats which can get jammed under the brake pedal or over the gas pedal. Having a 2023 outback, I know that if adaptive cruise control is on, if you start to turn without breaking, the car will accelerate as it sees no one in front of you and it tries to keep the speed. You either need to tap the brake, or cancel the cruise control mode. I'm not saying this is what happened to them, but I've seen this behavior from my Outback, while using adaptive cruise control.
I had an old (1985) Mercedes gas pedal stuck on me on the highway, so it was pressed down all the way. When I realized car was still accelerating after releasing the gas pedal, I stepped on the brake and was able to slowed down and stop the car on the side of the road. When I release the brake the car would accelerate again. The point is that you can still brake to stop the car even if the gas pedal is depressed all the way. The video clearly showed she was not braking at all. So must instead had been stepping on the gas all the way.
Even if there ends up a handful of cars with accelerator issues a firmware fix should take care of it. I do not think all these cars were the result of accelerator issues.
@@jasoneaves6488 0:29 is plenty enough evidence that the driver in the specific clip was likely not applying the brake pedal. Usually this can be corroborated with data pulled from the EDR if a collision is detected and occured. Just like the Toyota unintended acceleration "issue", even NASA engineers concluded that driver error was to blame. I've utilized Subaru Eyesight in a variety of Subaru vehicles. At no point did acceleration be as significant as shown in the video footage. It's not like Tesla Autopilot, which aggressively accelerates to the set speed and/or follow vehicle.
@@AWDfreak why? Because of a malfunctioning brake light switch! They have a recall on them, 4th generation part that seems to fail because of dirt. Although Subaru blames us for getting cleaning products on it, but silicone gets in the brake light switch and it malfunctions. Read about it!
@@AWDfreak I know differently! Facts of how the vehicle is made to run and exactly why it happens! NASA can’t figure it because limited scope. But it plain as day!
@@jasoneaves6488 Okay, to be fair, my very own primary car, an XV Crosstrek, had a faulty brake pedal switch. However, I have the luxury of a manual transmission, so I can easily stop the engine from driving the driveline. With a faulty brake switch, I would imagine Eyesight would disable its functionality. When my brake switch failed, all brake switch-related functions automatically disabled themselves, such as ABS, VDC, hill holder, etc. While drivers should have the common sense to disable acceleration with the use of either the parking brake and or placing the transmission selector switch into neutral, it's very unfortunate that these incidents may be related to the complications you have elaborated upon.
We need more videos showing the brake lights on!!!! Yes the brakes will not stop the car if the acceleration is locked on but at least it will show you tried to stopped the vehicle
You know what else is common? All 3 vehicles unintentionally accelerated only when there was a driver present behind the wheel. But as Subaru will eventually prove once their data recorders are reviewed, it'll likely be driver error.
It's plausible with these modern cars and the insane amount of computer control between the driver and the automobile that it did accelerate on its own,, but 99.9% of the time it's user error...
If you read this, remember to use your brake pedal no matter what you drive be it defective or not. Instinct should always be to apply brakes then kill the ignition if that doesn't work if you have a stuck throttle. No matter whose fault it is it's better not to crash.
This is not at all shocking or new if you understand the history of drive by wire proprietary technology and lawsuits dating back to the 1980’s with Audi. The real tragedy is that it’s not even an option in any new car to have a traditional cable throttle that doesn’t have this kind of liability. The standards set by the EPA, NHTSA and car manufacturers have effectively outlawed simplicity in engineering.
I've been rear ended by a Subaru outback and it was driven by an elderly woman. Had back pains for 3 years. Now I keep my eyes open at every single Subaru driving near me.
The "Inflation Reduction Act" has a provision forcing all cars to have law enforcement controlled kill switches. Imagine how this will make your car subject to our already lawless police. This is going to get a lot worse. If mandated anti-lock brake systems can cause this, imagine a police officer killing your car while you're driving. Imagine police doing what they do, with unchecked power. In the future law enforcement...law enforcement....extra judicially granted qualified immunity....police with no liability...will have the ultimate control over your car. Control with no liability to outcome. They don't care about our rights. Our rights are supposed to protect us this sort of intrusions. We're protecting you from yourself...we know what's best for you. Our elected officials passed this evil, hidden in the "inflation Reduction Act".
I regret to confirm this shortcoming of the Forester model, i.e. how does the car accelerate itself? Situation: winter, people on the road, you skid or you have a sudden situation where you have to brake hard... you are driving forward and suddenly you press the brake to the floor, the wheels seem to stop, the ABS works, the traction control does its job, but I hope you also pressed the clutch because in such a situation, the rev indicator goes to MAX RPM and so does the engine, and you don't touch the gas pedal... It's a scary situation, but it's true, the revs hold until you cut off until you hold the brake to the floor, release the brake, and the revs drop. Unfortunately, this is a true situation that I have experienced more than once, and the worst situation is on the ground on a small uphill bend, the wheels spin and the same symptom occurs at max speed (I forgot to press the clutch at the beginning), the traction control does not have a wheel angle sensor and even though the steering wheel is turned, it straightens my track straight. onto the pavement and a tree... Fortunately, the speed was not high and was reasonable for driving in such conditions, but I still hit the pavement, punctured the tire, fortunately, there was no one on the pavement and I did not hit a tree. This is a really scary symptom of this car. Maybe one day I will record the on-board computer readings and if I remember, I will add a link to a video of what it looks like. But to sum up, unfortunately this is what happens, the car adds gas on its own, I suspect it's a software error because the gas is controlled by a potentiometer and a computer, just like the cruise control, and I'm really not such a WRC racer that I would press the brake pedal to the floor and the gas pedal at the same time when braking, but I understand the defense manufacturer that the computer readings may suggest such a symptom, and pressing the pedal by a human is not recorded by any camera, but maybe it is worth recording... I actually did tests at a speed of several km\h downhill on an icy surface, pressing the brake to the floor and the symptom was the same RPM WAS MAXIMUM without touching the gas pedal. I would be happy to show it at a presentation how it is done, because the situation for an ordinary driver who does not know about such behavior of the car may have tragic consequences.
Three old ladies eh? RARELY will an old person will ever admit that they basically suck at driving even after sh*t happens; so blame it on the manufacturer then. My grandpa practically took down a support beam for the carport’s roof and only then he admitted he shouldn’t be driving anymore.
My first car had 3 bare wires hanging off the steering column. I had to know which wires to touch when for cruise control. Sometimes they touched when I didnt want them to and it floored the gas pedal. It was a 1986 pontiac. Probably not the case here but cruise is the only thing I can think of.
Can be a defective switch,once i got changed the brake switch which is on the pedal of brake due an defect that only happened in the shop was not a Subaru car but now cars has hundred of electronic switches
So, only happens in slow speed when one should be useing brake , but, car suddenly goes fast. Never on hi way. Driver error. New station had a story with no info on cause or any research.
This began decades ago with the Audi 5000 which had a very small area for the pedals and people were accidentally hitting the accelerator when they thought it was the brake. Other people have made similar claims. Many of them as in this are elderly. I doubt very much this will be proven to be an electronic or mechanical failure of the automobile itself. All the cases I have seen in the past have been operator error.
aside from tesla, basically every case of "unintended acceleration" has been user error. quite literally usually just hitting the gas instead of the brakes. i would be extremely surprised and disappointed in subaru if this was actually a problem
Ummmm, all three drivers look strikingly similar.
60 year old ladies
😂😂😂
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They love those Subarus...lol
All three over-60 year old liberal Karens? Honestly, it does seem like Subaru is hiding something though. It seems to me Subaru is doing their own investigation, instead of NTSB or third party.
Watch the video at 0.30 when it hits the truck no brake lights. The issue when you accidentally push the gas instead of the brake is you think you are on the brake so the harder you push to stop the faster you go.
Her brake would be fighting the gas pedal. She did not brake. She needs to go to DMV and retake her driver's exam.
I will say that this has happened to me with my 2001 Olds Aurora years ago. But I noticed the acceleration immediately and stepped on the brake. Had to stay on the brake just to go the speed limit. The motor was racing like a run-away engine. I pulled into a parking lot and shut my car off. When I turned it back on the issue didnt happen again but I'm not sure why it did it in the first place.
Women drivers😂
Or when your Brake light switch malfunctions as they have a recall for!
Gee, no brakes lights on before or during the 'crash'? I wonder why?
elderly in denial about old age and demetia sound familiar ...like good ol joe
Granny was listening to heavy metal and went wide open throttle !
She brought the self-breaking model. It didn't work
Good thing it was a Subaru, imagine this was a Tesla with 3 times as fast acceleration.
As a former claims adjuster, I can guarantee this was driver error. I handled plenty of claims of the elderly getting their pedals confused.
My mother was at a bank and pushed the gas pedal rather than the brake pedal. She went flying through the parking lot pressing harder and harder then threw the pontiac in park to stop. She admits she pushed the wrong pedal after a few days.
Embarrassment and not wanting to lose your license, and hopes of a lawsuit, make people lie.
That's not the case here
@@peachyclean93 Yes it is, the same as 99.9% of such cases. The only difference is them not admitting their mistake.
They believed they were pressing the right pedal. Just like someone not paying attention to traffic when they are driving. That is why auto manufacturers developed blind spot monitoring & brake assist. Human error & humans not taking everything in around them are root the cause of almost all accidents.
Complete imagination on your part. you have 000000 proof. Perhaps your lying now. Maybe your a liar?
@@chrisfrank8413
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Go Back to the Toyota accelerator issues. It ended up being a floor mat or human error. I have noticed the floor mat would cover up the accelerator pedal after I put it back in after vacuuming on many occasions.
As a tech. I can promise you Freeze data will clear all this up. Meaning a proper scanner will tell you everything about all the properties and driving conditions when the car crashed. Its spot on
the reporter says the data shows them pressing the gas
@@gwrulzmylife the reporter's 1st video shows no brake light. She did not brake.
No clutch😂
@@jeretso good eye! I think someone else said that when people mistake the gas for the brake they stomp down on the gas too. And I don't think only "old people" get confused, so the data recorded in the computer will be key!
@@gwrulzmylife I knew it- old people should not be driving
3 old ladies...hmmm.
I am skeptical but glad these ladies are fine. Could have been our mother/grandma.
*old lesbians
Luckily, it’s just quite trash
and all named Karen
I bet you they stepped on the accelerator instead of the brake- and they are so stupid - they sue Subaru
If only they could have this kind of acceleration when they're doing 5 under in the left lane!
Yep
It doesn’t really help their case with it being 3 old ladies.
Those were three people who were interviewed. As he said there are other people who range in age.
@@kevinW826 Yes but it didn’t help any of their their cases to have the 3 old ladies interviewed
No brake lights seen in video.
As they have a recall for the brake light switch! Which you should investigate!
Owned 6 Subarus from 2012 to 2024. Never had that happen to me and my wife...
I guess that settles it.
"we've been married for 58 years..." and she still can't drive
Lmao
3 Old lady's with the same issue. Definitely cannot be operator fault... They want to blame their cars but the white outback in the first video, break lights never came on. Maybe it's time for them to stop driving. Where are the other drivers who claim to have the same issues? It seems to me people who don't know how to drive are just looking to make money. Cars data recorder will prove everything.
One thing about mistakenly pressing the wrong pedal is that if you think you’re pushing the brake but you’re not, you won’t change your mind.
@@Derpy1969 correct
Um... in the video there were no brake lights.. So you were either on the gas thinking you were on the brake or you failed to hit the brakes at all. Know the dead give away?... Remember the Toyota Prius unintended accelleration lawsuits from 09/10 and how manufacturers all started putting brake overrides in their cars shortly thereafter? Yeah.. Subarus has been standard since 2013, and all 3 in the video were 2016.
Audi 5000s in the eighties or was it the nineties?
Why not push the clutch?
@@winstonelston5743 Because 95% of Americans are two pedal drivers
@@PURENT I waited three months last year when I odered my six-speed Crosstrek.
This choice paid off Thanksgiving weekend when half the cars on my street were burgled several stolen, and while my luggage was scattered down the street, they didn't steal my car, or my five-speed Frontier.
Because the brake light switch malfunctioned.
Brake light switch malfunctioned, look up the recall!
One of them is a current airline pilot, huh? Would you mind telling us which airline so we can know which one to avoid!
All three drivers need to give up their licenses...
Yep
0:55 Huh, I'm noticing a theme/pattern, here.....
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exactly! The attorney says there are others of different ages, then why not show them?
they were all headed to an anti-MAGA, protect democracy, Brandon Ice Cream social, so they were in a hurry. Oh, and they are never wrong about anything.
I was walking in a grocery store parking lot and witnessed an elderly woman in a Mercedes 300E take out five cars repeatedly backing up and then going forward while flooring the accelerator. I had to bolt away as cars were being crushed and flung aside. She, of course, claimed she was on the brake the whole time. BTW, I have two Subarus, a manual WRX and new CVT Impreza RS. They don’t do this.
Is the Impreza rs any good?
@@TraceyAllen it’s a super solid, great riding, handling, roomy and capable car with a responsive power train. It’s not a hot hatch but goes and steers just fine. My first CVT and it is unnoticeable other than it and engine operate exactly how I expect it to. Great safety systems and 36 mpg plus a 500 mile range make it a perfect road trip car.
You’re right…they don’t do this…very suspicious of these 3. Would love to see a follow up but they never do those
If your vehicle accelerates on it's own put it in neutral before hitting the brakes.
My old silverado had a faulty cruise control, it would go full throttle on it's own but only when cruise control was turned on. I never got into an accident because I knew how to deal with it.
This happened with my old blazer. I just shifted to neutral and shut off the engine.
If your vehicle accelerates on it's own, have a thought that you may be pushing the wrong pedal, instead of doubling down and flooring it.
Wtf?? Good ole American quality. 😂
That happened to me with cruise control once. It wasn’t a Silverado though. I think it happened because I had pressed the “Resume” button too early. So now I just decide to only use cruise control on flat freeways with clear traffic and weather instead of places where I frequently have to stop or slow down.
Subaru drivers are too clueless to do this.
Sometime old driver tends to push the wrong pedal. But still in their mind insists the right pedal. Thats what happens when people getting old, is natural
You'd be surprised how many cars I work on for a living that have 3 set the floor mats on them some of the completely covered in the gas pedal which seems to be oblivious to the customers always note these on the repair order but it never seems to change.
Honestly it seems like they are the ones that caused it. They probably pushed on the accelerator trying to go for the brake. Plus if she was supposedly pressing on the brake pedal, I didn’t see any brake lights in the video of the one crashing into the truck. I don’t really see how a car just suddenly accelerates on its own out of nowhere.
Has anyone noticed that it’s almost always women drivers who have this problem?
@@ellieprice363 I don’t know about mostly women particularly always having the problem but if they say they were pushing on the brake pedal, I would like to see how this plays out in court if that video gets involved with no brake lights on.
@@ellieprice363 It's usually just geriatrics. 86 year old man mistook the pedals in 2003 at a Santa Monica Farmers market, killed 10 people, injured 70 more before finally coming to a stop.
Subaru and old ladies go hand to hand
Them old ladies are liars. Their retirement funds must be low. This is their way to get their money.
As a Subaru owner, my guess is after market floor mats. They can trap the gas pedal once pressed and cause the vehicle to keep going faster even though your foot is off the gas. Why doesn't anyone ever put the car in neutral when this happens. It's right above drive and some automatics can be put in neutral while driving by just pushing the shifter foward.
I think in times of shock, people completely blank out?
This happens more often than people realize.
Or a floor math with creases on the accelerator too ,once happened to me with a car for lucky the gearbox was neutral and when happened floor down the brakes
this is fake, they are lying and faking being a victim
Love, its what makes a Subaru, a Subaru.
so does death
Just because someone is a pilot doesn't for one second prove that they also know how to drive (I would hope they do, but they are not the same, knowing how to operate one doesn't mean you can operate the other). Talk about false equivalency. Do better.
I’m a pilot and I agree with this statement.
@@briantii I remember a story about some USAF pilots out on a runway at an airbase somewhere. Talking after (or maybe before) a mission. There were a handful of people there. One of them saw some silvery shiny thing in the distance that was making extremely crazy moves in the air. Suddenly moving this way and that, making moves that would cause anything they knew of to rip itself apart if they even tried. (It basically moved like so many UFOs/UAPs do in video and anecdotes, that was how the pilot describing it, described its movements.) Leading the whole group to start to guess what the USAF was testing or whatnot.
This continued for a little while before one of them realized that what they all thought was a large object at a distance, was actually a shiny balloon at a much closer distance. The mystery aircraft was just a balloon dancing in the wind and reflecting the sun.
This fooled a bunch of trained USAF guys for longer than any of them really wanted to admit. Moral of the story is that just because you are a trained pilot doesn't mean you are an expert in all things up in the air and can easily make mistakes. Let alone any other activity. All being a trained pilot means is that you are a trained pilot.
addendum: Flying anything takes a certain level of ability. Be it remembering what the gazillion gauges and dials and buttons do on a jetliner, or being able to judge the terrain to see what effect it might have on the air above it (like those box canyons out west that destroy so many light aircraft with their downdrafts that are faster than the planes climb speed). So it really isn't something really dumb people can do. I have a level of admiration for anyone who can fly at all. So by no means is any of this disparagement of pilots. Instead it is me simply understanding that pilots aren't some mythical group of demigods. They are just people, people who have been trained for a highly skilled position, but people nonetheless.
No brake lights can be seen on the video. Meaning no braking was ever done only accelerating. These people are all old, and old drivers are the least safe because of their ability to make so many mistakes and never even notice it.
fix your floor mats
simple
Don't floor an accelerator thinking it's a brake.
I’m replacing my front welcome mat before a Subaru hits my house!😳
That happened to me in my 2003 CRV. The pedal got caught under the floor mats. I immediately realized what had happened, put it in neutral, and adjusted the mat with my feet. It was my own fault because I didn't install the mats correctly. All I had to do was hook them under the seat. Luckily, nothing happened.
When I'm old and if I crash ama blame the auto manufacturer. Thank you for the tip ladies ❤
As a Subaru owner, there's no way unless they disabled safety features manually. The automatic braking is so sensitive you literally cannot deliberately drive into anything head on without it slamming the brakes - even tall grass will bring it to a halt.
@@WNicole1993 Throttle cables getting jammed on fully mechanical cars (and airplanes) was/is an actual thing. So you can say "old cars were better", but it isn't really true.
@@Kwijibob unless the recall for the brake light switch happens! Then your brakes only work at manual pressure on pedal!
I have worked at many retail stores. I just want to take a moment of silence to all those trees that gave their lives to "driver error" aka "accelerator issues".
What about that other pedal called the BRAKE? Also, what about the emergency brake?
on most every vehicle made in the last 15 years, there is NO connection between the gas pedal and the engine. the gas pedal is just a sensor that transmits a signal to the throttle on the engine. it's all computer controlled.
if this were 3 WRX owners, the Subaru internet community would have forced them to crush their cars.
Everyone saying "it's a bunch of old ladies" is the pilot also an old lady..?
I remember when my throttle got stuck on my car once I noticed right away and put it in neutral. After I got it to the shoulder I got out and found my throttle petal was stuck on the floor mate
Random hormonal acceleration
All 3 Drivers are of the same Age Group...the Group that mistakens the gas for the brakes.
I like how you left out the gender group, as if that's not also a factor.....
Those Subaru Boxer Engines and CVT are actually pretty fast. You can reach 40 mph quick and get a speeding ticket be careful.
Normal for automatic cars, I've seen them jump out of gear reverse down a hill and almost hit a baby. The clutch driver always uses a handbrake, compared to an auto driver. If it was manual, she would have stalled it obviously
I can tell you right now they aren’t that fast. My sti puts down over 400 tq at the wheels, and it’s not that’s fast lol.
@@lucian7182
2.5L engine.
@@42luke93 I’m well aware of how many liters the engine is 😂
@@lucian7182 There was a smaller engine that is why, good.
If your foots on the brake in your driveway, how can the vehicle accelerate?.
They pushed the other brake.
As always, it's from people hitting the gas rather than the brake pedal or their floor mats were on top of the gas pedal.
People need to stop making lies up in hopes of getting money.
People don't realize every car's computer records everything they do in the car including radio level, seatbelts, gas pedal, brake pedal positions, etc. the gas pedal can't move on it's own. It's physically impossible.
Take their drivers license away before they ram into mass crowd. The brake light wasnt on when it hit the truck mesning she pressed the pas pedal instead. Look at their age.
Thank God the plane doesn't have a gas pedal. 🤣
We had several of these exact complaints at my Subaru dealer. There's plenty of fail safes and sensors to prove this is driver error. I even had a lady complain about the floor mats OEM and weather tech not go far enough to protect around the gas pedal, I said mam that's by design!!!
Soooooo you want my gas pedal to get dirty? I paid for my ENTIRE floor to stay clean! 😂😂
I've been looking on the nhtsa site for car ratings and I saw many complaints about various Subarus having this issue. I don't think I saw it anywhere else on the other brands I was looking at. Could it be faulty eyesight technology? I was considering getting one but now I'm concerned.
@blissfuljoy6049 yea, well, personal accountability is long gone. They don't want their license taken away, don't want insurance rates to go up. It's not the Subarus fault.
@blissfuljoy6049 possibly but very doubtful because again these cars have so many sensors that you can easily tell by scanning it that the gas pedal was pressed.
@@KenneMCL I've heard that too and hopefully anything negative would be caught for sure. I don't know much about computer mechanics in cars but my car has had issues in the past with EVAP system that I was told would show on the scan tool but for whatever reason, it didn't. It made trouble shooting very frustrating.
89 liberty did that and most modern subarus have a issue with driver side floor mat moving under the brake so it cant be pushed.
calling BS. owned 3v subarus, currently have 2. drivers mat doesn’t move under the brake pedal claimed.
Tell me you don't own a modern Subaru without telling me you don't own a modern Subaru. I've got an Outback and there is no way for that mat to block the brake pedal. Especially from behind.
I’m on Subaru number 9. I currently own 3. You are full of 💩
I pointed out to my mother after cleaning her 2020 Forester how poorly the matt is attached to the floor. I am betting floor matt issue for sure that started these instances, followed by panic and not moving their feet over to the brake pedal instead.
I have a 2022 crosstrek limited and all the floor mats are weather tech ,they are secured to the floor .it's not the mats
Elderly ladies who can't drive blaming the manufacturer. 😅
In December 2023 there was a horrific car crash at the Canadian border in Niagara Falls. The car was a 2018 Bentley. Bentley has a recall for this year because they can accelerate out of control. These are "Electrical Issues". You no longer have a cable to control the speed, it is now just a wire to the computer.
“We”ve been married 58 years….and she still can’t drive” is what he should’ve said. Noting one is an airline pilot, there’s a difference having a pilots license and being a commercial pilot, take note to their wording. If she can’t drive a car, than she definitely shouldn’t be operating an aircraft.
Two things come to mind when I hear this. Some people have two floor mats which can get jammed under the brake pedal or over the gas pedal. Having a 2023 outback, I know that if adaptive cruise control is on, if you start to turn without breaking, the car will accelerate as it sees no one in front of you and it tries to keep the speed. You either need to tap the brake, or cancel the cruise control mode. I'm not saying this is what happened to them, but I've seen this behavior from my Outback, while using adaptive cruise control.
😂😂😂😂lmao them cougars really hit the gas instead of breaks my mom did that 😂Lol
I had an old (1985) Mercedes gas pedal stuck on me on the highway, so it was pressed down all the way. When I realized car was still accelerating after releasing the gas pedal, I stepped on the brake and was able to slowed down and stop the car on the side of the road. When I release the brake the car would accelerate again. The point is that you can still brake to stop the car even if the gas pedal is depressed all the way. The video clearly showed she was not braking at all. So must instead had been stepping on the gas all the way.
Even if there ends up a handful of cars with accelerator issues a firmware fix should take care of it. I do not think all these cars were the result of accelerator issues.
It's a Subaru...of course they survived their accidents.
Does anyone remember many years ago that the news would say this happened to Chryslers and Jeeps, especially at car wash places?
I think Audi was the first to get sued... floor matts were the actual culprit in most cases.
Lol 😂 I'm pretty sure they hit the gas instead of brake by accident. No one likes to admit their mistakes!
Especially boomers
Are the cars equipped with Subaru eyesight? It force Brake when detect obstruction unless you disable it and press the gas I suppose.
Instead of admitting they made a mistake, they decided to file a frivolous lawsuit.
@@jasoneaves6488 0:29 is plenty enough evidence that the driver in the specific clip was likely not applying the brake pedal.
Usually this can be corroborated with data pulled from the EDR if a collision is detected and occured.
Just like the Toyota unintended acceleration "issue", even NASA engineers concluded that driver error was to blame.
I've utilized Subaru Eyesight in a variety of Subaru vehicles. At no point did acceleration be as significant as shown in the video footage. It's not like Tesla Autopilot, which aggressively accelerates to the set speed and/or follow vehicle.
@@AWDfreak why? Because of a malfunctioning brake light switch! They have a recall on them, 4th generation part that seems to fail because of dirt. Although Subaru blames us for getting cleaning products on it, but silicone gets in the brake light switch and it malfunctions. Read about it!
@@AWDfreak just like the guy who went off a cliff and into the water. He died. A witness said there was no brake lights!
@@AWDfreak I know differently! Facts of how the vehicle is made to run and exactly why it happens! NASA can’t figure it because limited scope. But it plain as day!
@@jasoneaves6488 Okay, to be fair, my very own primary car, an XV Crosstrek, had a faulty brake pedal switch.
However, I have the luxury of a manual transmission, so I can easily stop the engine from driving the driveline.
With a faulty brake switch, I would imagine Eyesight would disable its functionality. When my brake switch failed, all brake switch-related functions automatically disabled themselves, such as ABS, VDC, hill holder, etc.
While drivers should have the common sense to disable acceleration with the use of either the parking brake and or placing the transmission selector switch into neutral, it's very unfortunate that these incidents may be related to the complications you have elaborated upon.
We need more videos showing the brake lights on!!!! Yes the brakes will not stop the car if the acceleration is locked on but at least it will show you tried to stopped the vehicle
The cause is being old, not Subaru!
You know what else is common? All 3 vehicles unintentionally accelerated only when there was a driver present behind the wheel. But as Subaru will eventually prove once their data recorders are reviewed, it'll likely be driver error.
It happened Audi before. They all turned out driver's fault.
Ban full automatic transmissions!😂
Then how will work the automated breaking system without stall the engine in the intervention of the systems?
It's plausible with these modern cars and the insane amount of computer control between the driver and the automobile that it did accelerate on its own,, but 99.9% of the time it's user error...
If they weren't old ladies i might of believed them...
might have... not might of
If you read this, remember to use your brake pedal no matter what you drive be it defective or not. Instinct should always
be to apply brakes then kill the ignition if that doesn't work if you have a stuck throttle. No matter whose fault it is it's better not to crash.
no brake lights??? so she never tried to stop it hmmm ooook
No case here only thing they have in common is they are entirely to old to be driving
All old people driving dangerously?
When it starts to go, the driver is in shock that they don’t even know they are pressing the gas pedal.
Couldn't they push the clutch?
This is not at all shocking or new if you understand the history of drive by wire proprietary technology and lawsuits dating back to the 1980’s with Audi.
The real tragedy is that it’s not even an option in any new car to have a traditional cable throttle that doesn’t have this kind of liability. The standards set by the EPA, NHTSA and car manufacturers have effectively outlawed simplicity in engineering.
This was not caused by "drive by wire" tech 😂 What a ridiculous assessment and absolute non sequitur!
Just put a camera on the pedal area.
All 3 older women😂
I wonder if this is the same floor mat issue that happened with the Prius? I've never seen anyone driving a Prius or a Subaru that had a clue.
Never experienced this, but drive by wire... there is no cable to the throttle. I think this problem is possible.
I've been rear ended by a Subaru outback and it was driven by an elderly woman. Had back pains for 3 years. Now I keep my eyes open at every single Subaru driving near me.
What models are affected?
The "Inflation Reduction Act" has a provision forcing all cars to have law enforcement controlled kill switches. Imagine how this will make your car subject to our already lawless police. This is going to get a lot worse. If mandated anti-lock brake systems can cause this, imagine a police officer killing your car while you're driving. Imagine police doing what they do, with unchecked power. In the future law enforcement...law enforcement....extra judicially granted qualified immunity....police with no liability...will have the ultimate control over your car. Control with no liability to outcome. They don't care about our rights. Our rights are supposed to protect us this sort of intrusions. We're protecting you from yourself...we know what's best for you. Our elected officials passed this evil, hidden in the "inflation Reduction Act".
I regret to confirm this shortcoming of the Forester model, i.e. how does the car accelerate itself? Situation: winter, people on the road, you skid or you have a sudden situation where you have to brake hard... you are driving forward and suddenly you press the brake to the floor, the wheels seem to stop, the ABS works, the traction control does its job, but I hope you also pressed the clutch because in such a situation, the rev indicator goes to MAX RPM and so does the engine, and you don't touch the gas pedal... It's a scary situation, but it's true, the revs hold until you cut off until you hold the brake to the floor, release the brake, and the revs drop. Unfortunately, this is a true situation that I have experienced more than once, and the worst situation is on the ground on a small uphill bend, the wheels spin and the same symptom occurs at max speed (I forgot to press the clutch at the beginning), the traction control does not have a wheel angle sensor and even though the steering wheel is turned, it straightens my track straight. onto the pavement and a tree... Fortunately, the speed was not high and was reasonable for driving in such conditions, but I still hit the pavement, punctured the tire, fortunately, there was no one on the pavement and I did not hit a tree. This is a really scary symptom of this car. Maybe one day I will record the on-board computer readings and if I remember, I will add a link to a video of what it looks like. But to sum up, unfortunately this is what happens, the car adds gas on its own, I suspect it's a software error because the gas is controlled by a potentiometer and a computer, just like the cruise control, and I'm really not such a WRC racer that I would press the brake pedal to the floor and the gas pedal at the same time when braking, but I understand the defense manufacturer that the computer readings may suggest such a symptom, and pressing the pedal by a human is not recorded by any camera, but maybe it is worth recording... I actually did tests at a speed of several km\h downhill on an icy surface, pressing the brake to the floor and the symptom was the same RPM WAS MAXIMUM without touching the gas pedal. I would be happy to show it at a presentation how it is done, because the situation for an ordinary driver who does not know about such behavior of the car may have tragic consequences.
That's not a flaw just means you got a cursed car 😂😂😂
If you watched to the end you would see they were not all old people that had this problem and one was an airline piolet.
100% Operator Error ... There are two pedals, and some get confused. Please tell me which one the pilot flies for...don't wanna fly with them.
Old white ladies: It wasn’t my fault it was yours. 👵💅
😂😂
Their skin color has nothing to do with it, dillweed.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Three old ladies eh? RARELY will an old person will ever admit that they basically suck at driving even after sh*t happens; so blame it on the manufacturer then. My grandpa practically took down a support beam for the carport’s roof and only then he admitted he shouldn’t be driving anymore.
My first car had 3 bare wires hanging off the steering column. I had to know which wires to touch when for cruise control. Sometimes they touched when I didnt want them to and it floored the gas pedal. It was a 1986 pontiac. Probably not the case here but cruise is the only thing I can think of.
Can be a defective switch,once i got changed the brake switch which is on the pedal of brake due an defect that only happened in the shop was not a Subaru car but now cars has hundred of electronic switches
The brake circuit not killing the cruise control??? Relay issues?
Brain issue of flooring the wrong pedal and refusing to admit it.
God these ladies are such scammers
Foot hitting wrong pedal.
So, only happens in slow speed when one should be useing brake , but, car suddenly goes fast. Never on hi way. Driver error. New station had a story with no info on cause or any research.
All cars indeed contained a malfunctioning part. As soon as the drivers exited, the malfunctioning part was not in the car anymore.
I just wanna know who fitted the wig on the lawyer head 🤔🤨🤣🤣
This began decades ago with the Audi 5000 which had a very small area for the pedals and people were accidentally hitting the accelerator when they thought it was the brake.
Other people have made similar claims.
Many of them as in this are elderly.
I doubt very much this will be proven to be an electronic or mechanical failure of the automobile itself.
All the cases I have seen in the past have been operator error.
Get ready for a five year wait minimum to get that class action suit resolved.
hmmm, I would check there medical histories and all of them look in a similar in a way.
Subaru reliability has gotten terrible since they began using cheap Chinese parts.
Probably the issues is that the paddles are too close to eachother because of tight leg room design of the foot compartment!
aside from tesla, basically every case of "unintended acceleration" has been user error. quite literally usually just hitting the gas instead of the brakes. i would be extremely surprised and disappointed in subaru if this was actually a problem
Are you sure they weren’t just letting the dog drive?