Like the fact that Wake took quick and calm control - making sure everyone else got out safely. Very rational, direction everyone while also paying attention to what he was doing. 10/10 - Soda probably won't say it out loud, but he's probably happy that he got Vei out.
Soda you have to give wake props for taking the lead and getting the rest of the party out calmly and safely. Honestly the whole party did a great job keeping calm and listening to wakes instructions. Sucks but atleast the whole party didn't wipe
Once one die and aggro is spread among more people it is much easier to deal with anyway, have a suishy target that has all the aggro on everything is way way worse. Not like it s hard to do with a frost mage in the group, although people might be a bit confused.
Telling homegirl “don’t shield me cuz rage” as a fresh 60 war in zerk stance in strat tanking or not w 5 mobs not los’ing the most los’d pull in strat live is fucking crazy work, go again hombre
Nothing rng about this. Its the most common dps mistake. Hitting a mob before tank has started aggro. Wake was still LOSing them to a proper engage loacation. Before he establishes any threat u got a dps (soda) doing sweeping strikes whirlwind. Nothing to disect and talk about 1% of 1%.
But New Years is still on, so at least we have that. It felt like the Office episode where Michael Scott tries to cancel Christmas (Benihana Christmas maybe?)
@@michaelbreaux-tj6mx vei is his gf duo so that is ignored, it is all sweats. Look at every other dungeon he runs, it's 3 sweats soda and vei. Soda and vei are constantly carried. That's why he's not locked in at all, just autopiloting. He almost died 3 times in this dungeon alone before finally dying. Literally on one boss he got to 15% hp bc he was tanking in berserker stance and he had to health pot. Any other person wouldve hearthed after that if they were smart. He should've realized long ago that he was begging for death, but he was too comfortable being carried.
i feel like the way he died has to be a worse feeling than losing the character. like you're the harsh guild master always pointing out other's mistakes and how they should improve, yet you got wiped by a totally preventable rookie mistake. that shit would keep me up for a few days ngl.
It is not entierly all that deep tbh. He criticised most players doing mistakes full on knowing he might die at anytime, he never said he was perfect and made sure to say that he's prone to mistakes on numerous ocassions. Not to mention, backseating is considerably easier to do compared to on the spot decision, you might have the theory, but under pressure it might be a little bit harder to enable all of that in concordance to actual practical skills. Basically, it doesn't really matter that he pointed out mistakes, it's good that he does, because he has a proper idea of what's going on and knowledge should be shared, he's not doing it to shame per say but moreso because they need to actually learn and be competitive. I geniuenly don't think anything that petty is keeping him up at night, soda's way more experienced and mature than he lets out to be, man's been through hundreds of communities on wow by this point in his streamer career, nothing that he did in onlyfangs contradicts what he's been always really doing at the end of the day. Plus, I think soda should be congratulated just for the idea, nobody else really rised up and proposed to do this kind of content farm guild before, he took initiative. He just didn't pay attention either way, he thought they were chill, now he can be more careful and move on.
You might notice he also pointed out his own mistake and how he himself is responsible for this rip. You see that pointing out mistakes is to let people learn from what happened so the next time they may not rip to the same mistake and come out a better player at the other end, and not so much to put himself on a pedastal above them.
That was totally chances fault too. He rushed forward and didn’t stay against the walls to check for pat and pulled the pat while in the 4pack. Then he started dpsing when it was called to pull back and everyone pulled back. Yet he stayed there dpsing and WWing while the other warrior was los and got nuked. Totally 100% his fault.
And the rest of the party saying "that was unlucky, you just got 1% of the 1%, terrible timming". No it wasnt unlucky, fully deserved and it was his fault, you can see every mob is targetting chance even before the ww
@TheJesseWylde definitely not a head coach. He's a medicore player with the biggest ego for whatever reason. Never speed ran, never was a high parser. Where does the ego come from? At least do the "hard/sweaty" content before you develop an ego. He's good at buying gold tho!
@@OldSchoolMinded well, I compared him to a coach because he reminds me of a football coach screaming and being the guild leader. hes a coach not the star quarterback :D
Making a new character right away and cancelling dinner seemed a bit strange to me. He is not going to be 60 again in a week. It's like a guy building the Great Pyramid not taking the afternoon off because it will delay construction.
Nevertheless, he will complete the pyramid more quickly than the person who took the afternoon off. If he wants to he could get 60 by raid day. Without handouts, getting all the bis by raid day is probably impossible.
Brother, I know streaming is your job and you need to re-level ASAP for the content, but please take the advice of this old man; never put work over time with your loved ones. The game will wait for an hour or two for you to go to dinner. I promise you that time won't be wasted.
I know you're right. On the other hand, I can see Soda feels bad and not in the mood for a dinner date. He's also the guild leader so he may have some duties to hand over for the time being. He'll need some time to return to normal.
@@xd4564-t5iyou get rage from damage, which means more dps and threat. A priest who shields the tanking warrior makes it really hard for them to hold threat.
What was crazy about all this is that in his chat before this happened, some guy came in and said, “He’s gonna die in 20 minutes, I’m from the future.” And I was like, whatever bruh not gunna happen… and then I see this video…
@@gantref9202 he was tanking in berserker stance with a 2 hander. I understand that after 20 years the threat meta says 1h/shield is crap but so is getting your cheeks cleanly clapped this fast.
@@mudge002able I get that, I'm more responding to OP since he seems to think Soda wasn't tanking (presumably because he was using a 2hander.) I understand why tanks are using 2handers but that's also how you end up with deaths like this, they really weren't unavoidable, they were just playing risky and the risk finally catching up to them.
That particular pull is very common for people to run in through the tunnel and have a peek, without knowing theres a patrol (or even forgetting there is one despite the number of times theyve run it). In a good pull there is like 2-3 mobs, decent one is 3-4 and a bad pull is what we saw here (5). 1. Open door (preferable while standing on the corner LoSing) 2. peek and wait for patrol 3. pull patrol 4. win
@@baronbad5907 This is why you always want a rogue in your pt or a druid and to scout corners from pats. I always do this and always will. I rather be chicken and not die, then literally just die from not being one
@@jms5c8 What the frack are you talking about? If you want to hindsight criticize like all the other armchair perfectionists and I'm guessing .1% of the people doing so are capable of the kind of perfection they laugh about not achieving -at least be HONEST. Soda rubs me wrong a lot of the time and Im not sure Id want him as my GL but please, have some intellectual honesty about it.
Was the patrol. There's a two pack patrol that patrols the hallway. It can be split pulled but the team has to stand by the wall behind the door after opening the door as to not do that and body pull too soon as there's another pack (the ones with the battle mages) that stand stationary behind them. The timing on the pull of the patrol can split those two packs as one pulls them when they're (the patrol) is directly in front of the door.
He could not die due to a disconnect as he was always with Vei, and she could heal him for enough time for him to safely re-login, even if he was fighting a group of mobs. Yet, he still managed to die somehow...
I'd never run with a dps warrior thinking he was a tank.. If I don't see a shield, I'm not healing that group lol if your dps is actively fighting you for threat, they're going to get everyone killed.
Priest is safe as shit. You CAN'T die after like 14. You put your first 4 spec points in spirit tap, then imp wand. Keep inner fire up because it synergizes with power word: shield in that inner fire causes you to take less damage, less damage = longer lasting bubble. You throw a bubble, power word: pain, mind blast and then wand. Unless you pull a massive pack, you're going to be able to throw on your next bubble before you take any significant damage, if you take any at all. It's slow leaving because you are doing single target of at most 2 levels over you. Priests are basically invincible unless you're stupid.
They didnt wait and get the patrol first they got the patrol 2 pack with the first 3 pack in the hallway together 4 mobs meleeing him then battlemage blast wave and sorcerer arcane missiles finishes him off RiP brother but that was a rookie mistake to not wait after opening that door and getting the pat first instead of walking in and getting both like that.
All of those mobs absolutely pump. They pulled 6 and he's dual weilding. Honestly tyler is doing it the right way. Single pulls. Sword and board gg. Battle mage does ungodly dmg. There was no cc at all gets hit by 5 at once. Mage gets a cast if no cc no stuns no shield, dual weilding in beraerker. People keeps saying how easy this game is. But some of these spots can clap you. You play for Max safety all the time like tyler is. You live, nobody dies
The “never priest shield at the start of a pull for my rage” maybe shouldn’t have been the prescription for this dungeon, if that was what was said. Yes obviously it’s his fault, no shield, zerker WW>SS etc
@@krugec23nah, easily dm north of you average deaths per run. If people ran west it would probably be west but it’s only run by super prepared groups for specific things and very rarely
I was thinking that too. Shield before a greater heal or spam flash heal. Screw rage building and mana on those big pulls. A shield on him would’ve prevented him from getting enough rage for sweeping strikes which would’ve kept him in battle stance longer and no whirlwind. Obviously hindsight 20-20.
I saw the details re-cap, and apparently the sorc got two spells off on him for 1.6k damage...so I'll keep this comment short: 1. Not sharing threat. 2. Not LoSing the sorc. 3. Not being in defensive stance. 4. Vei not gauging the incoming damage properly. In older xpacs where tanks often get annihilated quickly, if you're not going to pre-cast the big heal on someone taking damage, use a flash heal. 5. Asking Vei not to shield him before pull. Ultimately I think he lives by LoSing and the rest is just extra. The nova would have actually saved him if he was moving around far as I can tell. Anyways, no one asked for my comment and no one cares about it, so that's all. :D
How exactly do you "share threat" ? It's a really good idea, but having a *_Prot Warrior_* Main since *_Vanilla_* I'm not exactly sure how you would achieve this ? It's a good idea IN THEORY, but IN PRACTICE, it's very difficult to do: This is because the 1st warrior to attack will have 100% threat: Which in THIS case, was *_Whirlwind_* (hits 4 mobs). So, the 2nd Warrior will have to do 110% threat (on one to two mobs). The only thing I can think of to interpret "sharing threat" is: (1) have the 2nd Warrior with threat on at least ONE of the Mobs ? Thereby lessening spike damage on the Tank ? (2) Preforming a "NUKE PULL" (which was not possible here): Which as a similar concept above: Whereby the DPS all NUKE one Mob (while the Tank is getting threat on the others), thereby lessening the chance for huge spike damage on the Tank ?
@@nikolaikalashnikov4253 Your number 1 interpretation is correct here. Also, I left context out of that being #1, because Soda wasn't in defensive stance he needed to share threat to stay alive. I just saw Summit reacting to this, and he mentions a similar concept regarding going defensive stance immediately after the WW, and Soda not doing that. So with all that said, that may not actually be #1 and I might put LoS up there instead, but being zerker with every single one of those mobs on you is...well, as we can see, near-immediate death.
6. Learn wtf the colorcode on plater means, whats the point of using the addon if you're not processing the info it facilitates, purple = somebody else has aggro, red = YOU have aggro, wake had that for 0.2s before soda bloodrages, literally just LoS or Def stance, either please, that was pathethic
What is "mob tagging" ? Like, he just tags a bunch of mobs & has a level 60 (not grouped) finish them off ??? How exactly does he "tag" them to get the credit for XP ? Like, is just a *_Demoralizing Shout_* sufficient ? Or, he has to actually apply some dmg to each of them ?
Damn that's rough man, but I'm going to be honest, that was 95% Soda's fault. He walked past Wake in the tunnel and pulled aggro on the pat + group, didn't LOS and stack em up (which was Wake's plan), proceeded to DPS dump WW zerk stance, and got clapped. The other 5% was a mix of no war stomp from Wake (assuming it was up), Lacari nova, and an unfortunately poorly timed heal from Vei (she couldn't have predicted that burst.)
avoidable. horrible pull. common mistake. actually bad lmao calling this "rng" is the biggest cope i've heard so far, but it just happened, i dont blame em.
Nothing like standing in a tight corridor pressing sweeping strikes then berserker stance then whirlwind then dead on the floor all in 3 seconds. It’s canon warrior gameplay
Part of the act. Gives a good underdog feel. Don't watch his streams but I am willing to bet this whole incident got him a nice subs paycheck. Edit: and of course when he died he decided to do a subathon. As one does.
He's talked plenty about how he wanted to get 60 and get geared to be raid ready, cause then he could relax a bit and try to come up with cool content ideas for the guild and manage that better. Dont have enough time while focusing on his character
Imagine standing in the doorway and not los'ing casters then fighting multiple of them without the tank or the rest of your group and being surprised Pikachu when you get blown up. Classic.
He did not let the tank do the pulling greeded on the face pull raged and whirlwind while he still had aggro this is a classic example of greed. hahahaha
Mistakes were made. 1) DPS position ahead of tank looking at 5x mobs (mistake). 2) That hallway you can hear the patrol as they chatter so you know when it is safe or not (mistake) 3) You effectively body pulled and had initial focus of most if not all of the mobs on the body pull (mistake). 3) Tank tried to LOS them back around the doorway while you stood in the doorway ahead of the tank (again... mistake). 4) Mage rooted the mobs with frost nova while tank backed away, again you were closest to mobs -OFC they hit you! (mistake). What was not a mistake was being in zerk stance and doing a whirlwind (you already had aggro long before that). You were sucking up arcane missiles which was your warning. Position yourself out of LOS next time and live. Let the tank tank without you putting your nose in front of him. GG
@2:53 you got de-buffed while looking at 5x mobs. Battle mages are no joke. Monks also hit really hard.. you lined them up and took initial hits from all of them. BONK.
Soda needs to use demo shout more. If he starts this engagement with an immediate demo shout and actually line's the sorcerer he probably would've lived. The Sorcerer did like 1.5k+ dmg in a global with arcane bolt and fireblast combo. These packs with battlemage and sorcerer are super dangerous, I can't believe he thought it would be ok to just stand there and whirlwind like that, he didn't even try to swap stances after whirlwind.
It wasn't berserker stance that killed him, it was the lack of CC. If you get a pack with either 2 battlemages, 2 sorcerers, or a combination of the two, you need to CC one of them immediately, and nuke the other one. Soda died because the sorcerer was channeling arcane missiles at him at the same time the battlemage used blast wave. Yes, Soda took more damage because of berserker stance, but he would have died in any other stance as well, since the arcane missile still had a couple of ticks left when he died.
I've been playing this game for twenty years as a preface. On your next toon learn to never use zerker, don't ask for no priest shield. With all due respect ,what did you expect. Know you're new. More advanced things would be concussion blow and shield bash, though you were out of range for the bash. Also, line of sight pull everything with gun.
@@nutzor9594 Def played like a new. Imagine some dps just full aoe nuking before tank gets aggro and not pressing pot/shieldwall macro to prevent himself from dying. You are new if u didnt realize you have to do something not to die there. Saying ''im dead'' fast doesnt mean you have fast reflexes. He froze clearly. +priest didnt have reflex either to shield him. 1 sec blabla humans are faster than 1 sec reflex.
@@nagageneral a global cd is a second in itself brother. Yes he misplayed, but dont act like anyone could've reacted to that damage unless they pre-popped. Thats the kind of damage u have to prepare for, not react to. It was nobodys fault but his own. He literally told the healer to not shield him.
that was the quickest "I'm ded" i've ever heard, that was faster than my eyes could process that he died, also i watched it on 0.25 and wake randomly mooing is so fucking funny
You can tell the moment that he died, he realised that he can't even get a friend to level a new character for him, because he is a big advator against cheating. Made him regret that decision.
That was 100% a blood rage aggro. You can see the nameplates are blue initially except for the one he started attacking. the second he bloodrages, all the mobs aggro to him. I mean, they also did get nova'd, but that Mage at the back wouldn't have hit him had he not had bloodrage, would have ran right to the tank. Now, the nova DID sort of fuck Soda up as he was the only one in the proximity. But 100% the bloodrage was enough snap threat to pull that mage at the back off the tank.
@@froggin-zp4nr …it matters when mobs are rooted(frost nova) near you. If you have threat on a single mob in the pack they will all attack the target with the most threat that they can actually hit.
@@Stormqtx Blood rage wasn't a factor. If you body pull a patrol the social aggro of the other mobs will go to the person that body-pulled unless others do a threat generating action, which didn't happen.
8:17 That's not at all what happened. He got hit by THREE spells at the same time. There are no "three arcane missiles" in the game. It's just insanely bad luck, all it is.
Ye was wondering why people were giving the mage shit, like sure it's not a good nova, but it didn't make any difference. The tank wanted to los and Soda goes zugzug to get insta gibbed.
@@ouodo nova if anything couldve saved him if he moved out of range, not mage's fault if anything counterspell shouldve been used on the arcane missile cast
I don't know why people think the nova killed him. He had aggro on the mobs after the whirlwind and SS. The nova didn't change anything with the threat or what target they would hit. If anything the nova could have helped him if he was just a bit out of melee range
jesus you guys are so bad its actually impressive. mind you these people have been playing this game for 20 years and ITS ALL BEEN SOLVED HUNDREDS OF TIMES OVER and yet they still can't do it
underestimated the dungeon af, KEPT SAYING MORE DPS IS SAFER THAN SLOW PULLS and proceeds to NOT LOS, USE BERSERKER INTO 5MOBS and Deathwish. Doesnt help that Wake is a dogass tank
Overconfidence kills. no control, no los, no shield, just AoE and zerg, that's the result
That’s exactly what happened.
Agree
Did that dung today
Every pull one is sheeped
Second chain stunned
And kick counterspell pummel all day
Nothing of that is seen in the clip
Just stupid pulls. You zerg the battlemages or CC them.
shit mages for sure
alll he needed to do was LOS too, sadge
welp good thing geranimo gave the pants to t1
😂
Sad thing, he was able to got Lionheart Helmet lmao
lmaooo i didnt even think of that
Who the fuck would think that out of Soda, Summit and T1, T1 would be the only one left alive
the fact that he even did a run like this with lacari, vei healing at 60 is just incredible
should ask Tyler to get some coachings in
What would the couching be bring pocket healers everywhere and have them all die along the way lol
@@allensmith2125 T1 only had healer in dung, Soda on other hand had pocket healer all the time in Vei, ironic you say Tyler had pocket healer lmao
Now's when he really starts cheating and changing the "rules".
@@SaltNBattery lol he will make mob tagging OK and AH 😂
@@SaltNBatterydoubt it
no polymorph, no counterspell, ninjapull - just an average hc dungeon gameplay
he literally told the mage NOT to polymorph. this entire run was a disaster.
Ye it looks like Soda was doomed with these guys ;D
Dps tank as well,
@@TheUnone He was farming rage no shield in front of 5 casters without breaking los his death was his fault lol
@@Alfninja Never said there was none of his fault but get me on any of these slots I save him effortlessly it's not even a unique situash to me ;D
Like the fact that Wake took quick and calm control - making sure everyone else got out safely. Very rational, direction everyone while also paying attention to what he was doing. 10/10 - Soda probably won't say it out loud, but he's probably happy that he got Vei out.
The fact she instantly asked "Do you want to cancel dinner tonight" is the definition of a god damn keeper holy.
she's also racist and got dropped from her Vtubing agency
A keeper wouldn't let you play hardcore lol
@@lens_hunter Thats cope
@@lens_hunterthey are making a shit ton of money
@@lens_hunterright, a keeper chooses your hobbies for you and controls you.. wait a minute
Soda you have to give wake props for taking the lead and getting the rest of the party out calmly and safely. Honestly the whole party did a great job keeping calm and listening to wakes instructions. Sucks but atleast the whole party didn't wipe
simp
i bet wake probably wanted to o7 a long time ago with this dog 2h troll in the group bodypulling and chain body pulling patrols :D:D:D
Strat live is aids. 60s wipe in there all the time
only if he had aggro on some of these mobs before soda died... but ye sick party leading on the way out.
Once one die and aggro is spread among more people it is much easier to deal with anyway, have a suishy target that has all the aggro on everything is way way worse.
Not like it s hard to do with a frost mage in the group, although people might be a bit confused.
Call outs from Wake saved the rest of the group.
HUGE
was huge, Vei kept trying to talk about what happened and he straight up lets get out b4 we talk about it
Tanking from Wake would've saved more of the group though Soda made that really hard for him.
@Quintessence4444 you can see wake tried to get out of sight of the range mobs to group them up then you see soda just goes all in
That dude is terrible, what are you on
@@ApexHChe’s literally the worst.
Telling homegirl “don’t shield me cuz rage” as a fresh 60 war in zerk stance in strat tanking or not w 5 mobs not los’ing the most los’d pull in strat live is fucking crazy work, go again hombre
Nothing rng about this. Its the most common dps mistake. Hitting a mob before tank has started aggro. Wake was still LOSing them to a proper engage loacation. Before he establishes any threat u got a dps (soda) doing sweeping strikes whirlwind. Nothing to disect and talk about 1% of 1%.
You could see the legit pain in his face right after it happened. Shits rough
Yeap. He has dedicated his ENTIRE life to this game. It's literally his thing, his purpose. Super rough.
He had no one to blame but himself. That is the look of 500 hours being wasted because he wanted to use whirlwind. Zug brained
meh, isn't it what he does for a living? Play WoW? So what if he plays a 60 or a lvl 1, it's all about how many people watch.
You meant to say funny
Yeah cuz he knew it was time for him to eat Humble Pie for all the crap talking he's been doing for people dying
"Do you wanna cancel dinner tonight then?" 💀
But New Years is still on, so at least we have that. It felt like the Office episode where Michael Scott tries to cancel Christmas (Benihana Christmas maybe?)
Yeah he needs a fucking life, poor girl.
"NoOOoOOoOOOoooOo dooon't cancel dinner dude..."
She was a real one for sure saying that after. Thinking ahead for him, and yeah, glad they work well together.
Rough pull.
No lesbian scissoring tonight?
Everyone was the opposite of locked in before the death, then Wake showed textbook locking in after it.
Bc they're all sweats soda doesn't group with non sweats, somehow he still died though
@@davidsantiago7808 no they are not. It's Lacari and vei's first time doing that dungeon. They are not sweats
@@michaelbreaux-tj6mx Nathan wake and soda are all sweats, vei is sodas gf duo so yes she's a noob. 3 sweats and soda still dies.
@@davidsantiago7808 thanks for explaining what I just said as true. so he doesn't take only sweats.
@@michaelbreaux-tj6mx vei is his gf duo so that is ignored, it is all sweats. Look at every other dungeon he runs, it's 3 sweats soda and vei. Soda and vei are constantly carried. That's why he's not locked in at all, just autopiloting. He almost died 3 times in this dungeon alone before finally dying. Literally on one boss he got to 15% hp bc he was tanking in berserker stance and he had to health pot. Any other person wouldve hearthed after that if they were smart. He should've realized long ago that he was begging for death, but he was too comfortable being carried.
Wake actually staying calm and getting them out needs some more recognition
lmfao if they didn't survive this would've been so demoralizing
bro its not war - LOL
nobody cares you nerd
@@jeremyrowe8224 yeah it is it's world of WARcraft
@@vincevalie W southpark joke xD
Around 3:30, thats a misplay. He typed Vei as new guild leader when what he should have done was typed Tonkatonk
The King is dead. Long live the Queen.
i feel like the way he died has to be a worse feeling than losing the character. like you're the harsh guild master always pointing out other's mistakes and how they should improve, yet you got wiped by a totally preventable rookie mistake. that shit would keep me up for a few days ngl.
he got Humbled pretty hard here
It is not entierly all that deep tbh.
He criticised most players doing mistakes full on knowing he might die at anytime, he never said he was perfect and made sure to say that he's prone to mistakes on numerous ocassions.
Not to mention, backseating is considerably easier to do compared to on the spot decision, you might have the theory, but under pressure it might be a little bit harder to enable all of that in concordance to actual practical skills.
Basically, it doesn't really matter that he pointed out mistakes, it's good that he does, because he has a proper idea of what's going on and knowledge should be shared, he's not doing it to shame per say but moreso because they need to actually learn and be competitive.
I geniuenly don't think anything that petty is keeping him up at night, soda's way more experienced and mature than he lets out to be, man's been through hundreds of communities on wow by this point in his streamer career, nothing that he did in onlyfangs contradicts what he's been always really doing at the end of the day.
Plus, I think soda should be congratulated just for the idea, nobody else really rised up and proposed to do this kind of content farm guild before, he took initiative.
He just didn't pay attention either way, he thought they were chill, now he can be more careful and move on.
You might notice he also pointed out his own mistake and how he himself is responsible for this rip. You see that pointing out mistakes is to let people learn from what happened so the next time they may not rip to the same mistake and come out a better player at the other end, and not so much to put himself on a pedastal above them.
Well he better be productive leveling a new one while hes up for those few days 😉
keep you up for weeks grinding back to 60
That was totally chances fault too. He rushed forward and didn’t stay against the walls to check for pat and pulled the pat while in the 4pack. Then he started dpsing when it was called to pull back and everyone pulled back. Yet he stayed there dpsing and WWing while the other warrior was los and got nuked. Totally 100% his fault.
And then he busted into the pack with ww before the tank had aoe threat and got murdered. No rng about it just stupid.
Full zerk stance too
Ha wdym? What soda did is comparable to a lock spamming hellfire before the tank has threat...
And the rest of the party saying "that was unlucky, you just got 1% of the 1%, terrible timming".
No it wasnt unlucky, fully deserved and it was his fault, you can see every mob is targetting chance even before the ww
Yeah almost like he fully took the blame and never tried to blame anyone. What's the point of this comment?
has he realized tyler is the main character yet
he's said it multiple times
Yeah… he has admitted this on stream… lol
hes the mascott frfr, and soda is the hot headed, head coach
@TheJesseWylde definitely not a head coach. He's a medicore player with the biggest ego for whatever reason. Never speed ran, never was a high parser. Where does the ego come from? At least do the "hard/sweaty" content before you develop an ego.
He's good at buying gold tho!
@@OldSchoolMinded well, I compared him to a coach because he reminds me of a football coach screaming and being the guild leader. hes a coach not the star quarterback :D
Making a new character right away and cancelling dinner seemed a bit strange to me. He is not going to be 60 again in a week. It's like a guy building the Great Pyramid not taking the afternoon off because it will delay construction.
It’s copium
Nevertheless, he will complete the pyramid more quickly than the person who took the afternoon off. If he wants to he could get 60 by raid day. Without handouts, getting all the bis by raid day is probably impossible.
Ive never played this before and just started watching these vids but i know that hurt
It's his job.
Soda is not an ordinary WoW player
Why does Vei speak in ASMR nonstop
That is just her natural speaking voice, which is nice
Because that's the only way she's able to make money
@@Flightkeeper0229 so you think she spoke like that as a child? xd hehe hehe xd
vtuber accent
Vtubers sound annoying. It’s just the way it is
Almost dies siting in zerker stance than couple packs after does the same thing and dies kekw
its only 10% its more that he didnt los
@@Healcraft Its 20% compared to dstance
Its fine he had buttons to press 😂
@@zGunTrollHey, "try again" is a button
Vibes were off, shoulda hearthed.
Theyre all sweats bc soda only groups with sweats he got too comfortable.
@@davidsantiago7808 Lmao no, except nathan no one was a sweat.
They dont lern from T warchief 1.. they die
@@davidsantiago7808 read chat, multiple people warned him
@@DefaultWoW they should have locked the f in before the run started, and had a reminder to do so during the cannoneer boss, but just kept zugging
saddest part? cancelling the dinner
Literally, over WoW lmao
@@mickerdttvI mean WoW is his job so….
@@Therestistocome so what? his mom is pushing fucking 80, bet he will look back at this day with great pride once she's gone
@@YourSweatyUncle congrats, you win dumbest comment on this video!
@@Therestistocome it’s a couple of hours for dinner…
“Your arrogance blinds you.”
Brother, I know streaming is your job and you need to re-level ASAP for the content, but please take the advice of this old man; never put work over time with your loved ones. The game will wait for an hour or two for you to go to dinner. I promise you that time won't be wasted.
I know you're right. On the other hand, I can see Soda feels bad and not in the mood for a dinner date. He's also the guild leader so he may have some duties to hand over for the time being. He'll need some time to return to normal.
He would be pissy the whole dinner date.
Really not RNG, sweeping strikes/berserker/whirlwind and pulling aggro before the LOS is just GG
Also add telling your healer not to shield because you just gotta get that optimal dps as if you are parsing in a mythic raid lol.
Yea, let me just pull aggro before the tank has managed to control all the mobs lmao
@@xd4564-t5iyou get rage from damage, which means more dps and threat. A priest who shields the tanking warrior makes it really hard for them to hold threat.
@@zZyAnidEe Everyone rushing to top the dps meter is why he can't hold threat.
@@zZyAnidEeI think wake is supposed to be tanking
What was crazy about all this is that in his chat before this happened, some guy came in and said, “He’s gonna die in 20 minutes, I’m from the future.” And I was like, whatever bruh not gunna happen… and then I see this video…
Underated comment
To add "insult to injury", the worst part was some kid yapping in voice chat during a hardcore pull: As if their lives weren't "on the line" !!!
Your tanking is trying to LOS the mobs with no threat meanwhile Soda is blowing his whole load right on top of all the mobs. Gets clapped.
Pretty sure Soda is the tank
you love to see it.
@@gantref9202 he was tanking in berserker stance with a 2 hander. I understand that after 20 years the threat meta says 1h/shield is crap but so is getting your cheeks cleanly clapped this fast.
@@mudge002able I get that, I'm more responding to OP since he seems to think Soda wasn't tanking (presumably because he was using a 2hander.) I understand why tanks are using 2handers but that's also how you end up with deaths like this, they really weren't unavoidable, they were just playing risky and the risk finally catching up to them.
@@gantref9202 no he was not the tank
That particular pull is very common for people to run in through the tunnel and have a peek, without knowing theres a patrol (or even forgetting there is one despite the number of times theyve run it).
In a good pull there is like 2-3 mobs, decent one is 3-4 and a bad pull is what we saw here (5).
1. Open door (preferable while standing on the corner LoSing)
2. peek and wait for patrol
3. pull patrol
4. win
The other warrior did it right, but Soda couldn't help himself and ran into the corridor.
@@e.p.s.9037 yeah, he got a bit too comfy.
It’ll eventually be “do you want to cancel the wedding then?”
People in comments being so pressed over this shit is always funny to me.
Zerker+ww+no los. Even with no nova you die to the casts anyway. Nova came after you had threat too
the biggest mistake here was the pull, grabbed a pat of 2 + the group of 3, those mobs all hit hard af
@@baronbad5907 This is why you always want a rogue in your pt or a druid and to scout corners from pats. I always do this and always will. I rather be chicken and not die, then literally just die from not being one
Arrogance is a helluva drug. 🤣🤣🤣
To quote a sometimes-lawyer guy, "Vanity - definitely my favourite sin"
I mean he didn't seem very arrogant he took it pretty well..
@@Revion91 he tried to give equal blame to his party members... it was 100% him. hes a pos human and thats why ppl love to watch him
@@jms5c8 What the frack are you talking about? If you want to hindsight criticize like all the other armchair perfectionists and I'm guessing .1% of the people doing so are capable of the kind of perfection they laugh about not achieving -at least be HONEST. Soda rubs me wrong a lot of the time and Im not sure Id want him as my GL but please, have some intellectual honesty about it.
Was the patrol. There's a two pack patrol that patrols the hallway. It can be split pulled but the team has to stand by the wall behind the door after opening the door as to not do that and body pull too soon as there's another pack (the ones with the battle mages) that stand stationary behind them. The timing on the pull of the patrol can split those two packs as one pulls them when they're (the patrol) is directly in front of the door.
Better to fall in battle, than die to a disconnect.
He could not die due to a disconnect as he was always with Vei, and she could heal him for enough time for him to safely re-login, even if he was fighting a group of mobs. Yet, he still managed to die somehow...
@@CEOatGoogle makes no sense what if he disconnected during a pull?
He didn't fall in battle. Literally ran in and got deleted. Soda is worst than T1 lol.
@@CEOatGoogle they live in the same house, if their internet caused the dc it would be a problem lol
He didn't fall in battle though, it was zerker!
Hes obessed. Hes prob watched this clip at least a dozen times in silence lmaooo
to be fair i do the same when i die at level 19 trying to figure out why the mobs are outplaying me so hard
Maybe respect the actual mechanics of the tanking game next time bud
He just went afk farm mode
Every good tank puts on a ( Shield )
Every great tank dual wields and actually has threat and damage lmao
Every good tank stays alive lmao
I'd never run with a dps warrior thinking he was a tank.. If I don't see a shield, I'm not healing that group lol if your dps is actively fighting you for threat, they're going to get everyone killed.
Priest is safe as shit. You CAN'T die after like 14. You put your first 4 spec points in spirit tap, then imp wand. Keep inner fire up because it synergizes with power word: shield in that inner fire causes you to take less damage, less damage = longer lasting bubble.
You throw a bubble, power word: pain, mind blast and then wand. Unless you pull a massive pack, you're going to be able to throw on your next bubble before you take any significant damage, if you take any at all.
It's slow leaving because you are doing single target of at most 2 levels over you. Priests are basically invincible unless you're stupid.
Cancelling dinner with mom is kinda weird...
Greedy Dmg. Go LoS and let the Tank get Aggro...
They didnt wait and get the patrol first they got the patrol 2 pack with the first 3 pack in the hallway together 4 mobs meleeing him then battlemage blast wave and sorcerer arcane missiles finishes him off RiP brother but that was a rookie mistake to not wait after opening that door and getting the pat first instead of walking in and getting both like that.
Bingo. This is the mistake. Always wait for patrols and pull them separately
Even then it was fine if he just line of sighted them. Rip to only fangs I guess
Finally found the actual classic player
it's ok. you can just get someone else to power level your character like the other streamers do
idk why people are blaming frost nova when he's at 1% HP when it gets cast
All of those mobs absolutely pump. They pulled 6 and he's dual weilding. Honestly tyler is doing it the right way. Single pulls. Sword and board gg.
Battle mage does ungodly dmg. There was no cc at all gets hit by 5 at once. Mage gets a cast if no cc no stuns no shield, dual weilding in beraerker.
People keeps saying how easy this game is. But some of these spots can clap you. You play for Max safety all the time like tyler is. You live, nobody dies
@mewsup7382 all healer deaths has been him not picking things up. Has nothing to do with sword and board single pulling
All speed leveling methods will now be allowed. That does suck though.
He talked about this at the real life onlyfangs meeting… mob tagging and said, “rules for thee and not for me.” Lol
The “never priest shield at the start of a pull for my rage” maybe shouldn’t have been the prescription for this dungeon, if that was what was said.
Yes obviously it’s his fault, no shield, zerker WW>SS etc
strat live is the deadliest dungeon in hc
@@krugec23nah, easily dm north of you average deaths per run. If people ran west it would probably be west but it’s only run by super prepared groups for specific things and very rarely
I was thinking that too. Shield before a greater heal or spam flash heal. Screw rage building and mana on those big pulls. A shield on him would’ve prevented him from getting enough rage for sweeping strikes which would’ve kept him in battle stance longer and no whirlwind. Obviously hindsight 20-20.
Wake deserves some points for getting everyone out.
I saw the details re-cap, and apparently the sorc got two spells off on him for 1.6k damage...so I'll keep this comment short:
1. Not sharing threat.
2. Not LoSing the sorc.
3. Not being in defensive stance.
4. Vei not gauging the incoming damage properly. In older xpacs where tanks often get annihilated quickly, if you're not going to pre-cast the big heal on someone taking damage, use a flash heal.
5. Asking Vei not to shield him before pull.
Ultimately I think he lives by LoSing and the rest is just extra. The nova would have actually saved him if he was moving around far as I can tell.
Anyways, no one asked for my comment and no one cares about it, so that's all. :D
How exactly do you "share threat" ? It's a really good idea, but having a *_Prot Warrior_* Main since *_Vanilla_* I'm not exactly sure how you would achieve this ? It's a good idea IN THEORY, but IN PRACTICE, it's very difficult to do: This is because the 1st warrior to attack will have 100% threat: Which in THIS case, was *_Whirlwind_* (hits 4 mobs). So, the 2nd Warrior will have to do 110% threat (on one to two mobs).
The only thing I can think of to interpret "sharing threat" is:
(1) have the 2nd Warrior with threat on at least ONE of the Mobs ? Thereby lessening spike damage on the Tank ?
(2) Preforming a "NUKE PULL" (which was not possible here): Which as a similar concept above: Whereby the DPS all NUKE one Mob (while the Tank is getting threat on the others), thereby lessening the chance for huge spike damage on the Tank ?
I asked, and I care
@@nikolaikalashnikov4253 Your number 1 interpretation is correct here. Also, I left context out of that being #1, because Soda wasn't in defensive stance he needed to share threat to stay alive. I just saw Summit reacting to this, and he mentions a similar concept regarding going defensive stance immediately after the WW, and Soda not doing that.
So with all that said, that may not actually be #1 and I might put LoS up there instead, but being zerker with every single one of those mobs on you is...well, as we can see, near-immediate death.
6. Learn wtf the colorcode on plater means, whats the point of using the addon if you're not processing the info it facilitates, purple = somebody else has aggro, red = YOU have aggro, wake had that for 0.2s before soda bloodrages, literally just LoS or Def stance, either please, that was pathethic
Cant wait for mob tagging to suddenly be okay for soda
@@Vesu16 I'm waiting on it too
Not gon happen on cam
@blubblubwhat of course not. He just suddenly gonna be 50 in 2 days
What is "mob tagging" ? Like, he just tags a bunch of mobs & has a level 60 (not grouped) finish them off ??? How exactly does he "tag" them to get the credit for XP ? Like, is just a *_Demoralizing Shout_* sufficient ? Or, he has to actually apply some dmg to each of them ?
@nikolaikalashnikov4253 hes gotta hit them and do like 30% of the damage.
lol
just stand there and tank like 5 mobs in fury instead of LOSing
Damn that's rough man, but I'm going to be honest, that was 95% Soda's fault. He walked past Wake in the tunnel and pulled aggro on the pat + group, didn't LOS and stack em up (which was Wake's plan), proceeded to DPS dump WW zerk stance, and got clapped. The other 5% was a mix of no war stomp from Wake (assuming it was up), Lacari nova, and an unfortunately poorly timed heal from Vei (she couldn't have predicted that burst.)
The nova had nothing to do with it. He already had threat and was at like 5%.
Seems like you’d take it more seriously if you’re trying not to die, y’all were lollygaging like you were in retail.
zerker stanced on a 5 pull no cc, whirlwinding while the actual tank is trying to los. just actual dogshit play.
4:25 about 60 hour run back for soda 😂
Double that it's more like 100+
avoidable. horrible pull. common mistake. actually bad lmao
calling this "rng" is the biggest cope i've heard so far, but it just happened, i dont blame em.
Literally 0 RNG, they are just treating pussy poppin with kid gloves to avoid embarrassing him.
Dinner is cancelled, guess it’s T1’s spot.
VEI IS NOW t1s PROPERTY LOL TAKE THAT SODACUCKKIN
Nothing like standing in a tight corridor pressing sweeping strikes then berserker stance then whirlwind then dead on the floor all in 3 seconds. It’s canon warrior gameplay
people really underestimatie these 60 dungeons... Especially phase 1 and being freshly geared.... Hard reality check gg we go agane
6:53 down the drain? isnt this like his job(content)? what did i miss?
Part of the act. Gives a good underdog feel. Don't watch his streams but I am willing to bet this whole incident got him a nice subs paycheck.
Edit: and of course when he died he decided to do a subathon. As one does.
He's talked plenty about how he wanted to get 60 and get geared to be raid ready, cause then he could relax a bit and try to come up with cool content ideas for the guild and manage that better.
Dont have enough time while focusing on his character
I could not play with these people. I'd lose my mind listening to these coms. So bad.
Him canceling dinner plans over this is fucking pathetic dude what... How is that your first thought when you die lol.
It was VEI'S first thought. He just agreed to it. It is a little too sweaty but he is the GM running the entire operation, so eh.
@@Xzenock0343 reeee people aren’t living their lives how I want them to! Reeeeee!
@@Purriah Good argument, you can litterly use that on anything.
@@nutzor9594 How do you explain that to your parents tough? Lol? "Sorry my boyfriend died in his videogame so we are cancelling dinner plans"
@@Xzenock0343 It's his job
“Thanks for explaining the fight mid fight boys” but since when does a healer stand melee range of a boss the accountability is just amazing. ROFL
Happy new year 😂 sad. But back to durotar
Next Time with a shield, with a good stance, concentrated.
Back to Work as you say. 💪
Imagine standing in the doorway and not los'ing casters then fighting multiple of them without the tank or the rest of your group and being surprised Pikachu when you get blown up. Classic.
He did not let the tank do the pulling greeded on the face pull raged and whirlwind while he still had aggro this is a classic example of greed. hahahaha
Tanking in Berserk stance is a bigoof
There’s a time and a place for it and this was definitely not that. Hahaha.
Confidence and complacency is the #1 experienced player HC killer. Completely his fault.
Mistakes were made. 1) DPS position ahead of tank looking at 5x mobs (mistake). 2) That hallway you can hear the patrol as they chatter so you know when it is safe or not (mistake) 3) You effectively body pulled and had initial focus of most if not all of the mobs on the body pull (mistake). 3) Tank tried to LOS them back around the doorway while you stood in the doorway ahead of the tank (again... mistake). 4) Mage rooted the mobs with frost nova while tank backed away, again you were closest to mobs -OFC they hit you! (mistake). What was not a mistake was being in zerk stance and doing a whirlwind (you already had aggro long before that). You were sucking up arcane missiles which was your warning. Position yourself out of LOS next time and live. Let the tank tank without you putting your nose in front of him. GG
@2:53 you got de-buffed while looking at 5x mobs. Battle mages are no joke. Monks also hit really hard.. you lined them up and took initial hits from all of them. BONK.
I thought my internal scream was bad at 39. This one gotta hurt mon
die at 39, skill issue
2 mages no sheep bro I also died at 60 on warrior Lok Tar mon go again
SEE YOU LATER!
Soda needs to use demo shout more. If he starts this engagement with an immediate demo shout and actually line's the sorcerer he probably would've lived. The Sorcerer did like 1.5k+ dmg in a global with arcane bolt and fireblast combo.
These packs with battlemage and sorcerer are super dangerous, I can't believe he thought it would be ok to just stand there and whirlwind like that, he didn't even try to swap stances after whirlwind.
Ego hurt a little bit from t1 bud? lmfao
Good thing he didn’t get the leggings. Also Lacari is so happy rn.
Agent Lacari reporting a successful mission 🗿
dinner cancelled Sadge
Guess soda isnt raiding in january😂😂😂
When your healer says "this is my first time doing this dungeon" on hardcore, you know you're in for a colorful time.
"I've got another dummy in 34 seconds" and that's when soda is creating his new character 😂
It wasn't berserker stance that killed him, it was the lack of CC. If you get a pack with either 2 battlemages, 2 sorcerers, or a combination of the two, you need to CC one of them immediately, and nuke the other one. Soda died because the sorcerer was channeling arcane missiles at him at the same time the battlemage used blast wave. Yes, Soda took more damage because of berserker stance, but he would have died in any other stance as well, since the arcane missile still had a couple of ticks left when he died.
I've been playing this game for twenty years as a preface. On your next toon learn to never use zerker, don't ask for no priest shield. With all due respect ,what did you expect. Know you're new. More advanced things would be concussion blow and shield bash, though you were out of range for the bash. Also, line of sight pull everything with gun.
Are you calling Soda "new" lol
@@nutzor9594 Def played like a new. Imagine some dps just full aoe nuking before tank gets aggro and not pressing pot/shieldwall macro to prevent himself from dying. You are new if u didnt realize you have to do something not to die there. Saying ''im dead'' fast doesnt mean you have fast reflexes. He froze clearly. +priest didnt have reflex either to shield him. 1 sec blabla humans are faster than 1 sec reflex.
@@nagageneral a global cd is a second in itself brother. Yes he misplayed, but dont act like anyone could've reacted to that damage unless they pre-popped. Thats the kind of damage u have to prepare for, not react to. It was nobodys fault but his own. He literally told the healer to not shield him.
still playing wow in 2025
couldnt be happier to wake up to this news
that was the quickest "I'm ded" i've ever heard, that was faster than my eyes could process that he died, also i watched it on 0.25 and wake randomly mooing is so fucking funny
-Stage 1: Denial · Stage 2: Anger · Stage 3: Bargaining · Stage 4: Depression- · Stage 5: Acceptance.
Like Tyler1 said DOGSHIT and this proves it.
2h tanking in Hardcore WoW is one of the most restarted things you can do.
I see what you did there
I hate how self obsessed this guy is.
It's his whole "thing"
You can tell the moment that he died, he realised that he can't even get a friend to level a new character for him, because he is a big advator against cheating. Made him regret that decision.
Maybe you can hire a maid to help mob tag your new character
That was 100% a blood rage aggro. You can see the nameplates are blue initially except for the one he started attacking. the second he bloodrages, all the mobs aggro to him. I mean, they also did get nova'd, but that Mage at the back wouldn't have hit him had he not had bloodrage, would have ran right to the tank. Now, the nova DID sort of fuck Soda up as he was the only one in the proximity. But 100% the bloodrage was enough snap threat to pull that mage at the back off the tank.
Proximity doesn't matter because nobody else is generating threat.
@@froggin-zp4nr …it matters when mobs are rooted(frost nova) near you. If you have threat on a single mob in the pack they will all attack the target with the most threat that they can actually hit.
Lol blood rage... He body pulled everything and started slamming with sweeping strikes and WW, what are you taking about
@@e.p.s.9037 after he did that, he had threat of all the melee mobs, yes. The mage in the back was on him from blood rage.
@@Stormqtx Blood rage wasn't a factor. If you body pull a patrol the social aggro of the other mobs will go to the person that body-pulled unless others do a threat generating action, which didn't happen.
F to Kamalapoppins
Bro played like shit the whole stream and wonders why he died lmao
8:17 That's not at all what happened. He got hit by THREE spells at the same time. There are no "three arcane missiles" in the game. It's just insanely bad luck, all it is.
That's ok , He will create another char and waste more days of his life to die sooner or later and repeat same pattern again and again.
Noone can put the blame on the mage. SS whirlwind after wake had done 1 auto and was LOS pulling. The nova didnt do shit.
Ye was wondering why people were giving the mage shit, like sure it's not a good nova, but it didn't make any difference. The tank wanted to los and Soda goes zugzug to get insta gibbed.
@@Holdeensif he didn't get himself killed, the nova would have sealed the deal. It's moot. Bad warrior, bad nova.
@@ouodo nova if anything couldve saved him if he moved out of range, not mage's fault
if anything counterspell shouldve been used on the arcane missile cast
Nova kiled him inhinsight.. but the mistke was sodapopins for sure
I don't know why people think the nova killed him. He had aggro on the mobs after the whirlwind and SS. The nova didn't change anything with the threat or what target they would hit. If anything the nova could have helped him if he was just a bit out of melee range
lmao bad.
jesus you guys are so bad its actually impressive. mind you these people have been playing this game for 20 years and ITS ALL BEEN SOLVED HUNDREDS OF TIMES OVER and yet they still can't do it
like you can do it, things happen and that how it goes
Its because clearing Strat like Navy Seals is boring for viewers.
Standing in melee as a healer getting non stop kicked.. I can’t even watch it past a minute
underestimated the dungeon af, KEPT SAYING MORE DPS IS SAFER THAN SLOW PULLS and proceeds to NOT LOS, USE BERSERKER INTO 5MOBS and Deathwish. Doesnt help that Wake is a dogass tank