huh? He might have, but Europeans often learn about The US, Russia, Asia and a bit about South America, they close to never hear about the history of the middle east apart from religious studies
A great Turkish historian Halil İnalcık, in a nutshell, says that "When Ottoman army marched to reach Vienna, they had to pass all the Balkans with those rivers, castles and weather. They had to build bridges, take castles and when they finally reach at the gates, it is already autumn and the pockets of sipahis are empty, this is why they had to return every time."
They should have just stationed them around the balkans for a better opportunity, maybe in the spring or summer the they wouldn't suffer the arduous journey.
@@malolelei3937yeah but like, the Persians did attack the Ottomans during the long turkish war against the habsburg which is basically the kind of event he’s referring to
+SirSaxamaphone Usually they just tell the history, but now they've added storytelling. Setting the entire series as the thoughts of an old Suleiman pondering the past, now giving us the scene with Justinian. It's awesome.
You're required BY LAW to execute your own flesh and blood (royal blood no less) solely to prevent civil wars. To be fair, it works, but still... damn.
+Samazam Yeah it's horrible, but look at it this way - For the blood of a handful of royals you spare the blood of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of common people. Here's a fun ethical question for you - what's worse? Murder of a person for no other reason than his birth or a prolonged, bloody and vicious civil war that causes the death of untold number of common people? There's no winning in this scenario - you just decide who loses.
+JenxRodwell It's more like "What's worse? Willing and systematic murder of family, or possible, and not guaranteed, civil war?" It's like shooting one of your friends, because you think he got bitten by a zombie. So technically it's possible to win this scenario, if you choose that latter, and get lucky.
+erdal0 Because of the similarities in their stories and their rise to power. They both lost so much in making their empires. That and Justinian would have been one of the rare people who could understand the weight of leadership on such a vast scale. There is a comfort in in empathy that sympathy can't always fill.
+Timothy McLean Russia is not exactly indicative of most other European weather, which should be relatively manageable to even an army coming from the heat of the middle east, so long as they had generally proper winter clothing.
+TheRezro Yeah, but the Golden Horde didn't come from the Middle East, but from Central Asia, with comparable winters to Russia (indeed, much of it IS a part of Russia in modern times, though it wasn't back then).
7:21 I have genuinely developed nostalgia towards the Justinian figure appearing on these, the idea of these people sharing so many great and similar ideas trough the ages tells you something about a true great lider
+didactic polymath THAT moment is the reason why I think this channel needs more exposure. The History Channel is full of "reality" junk (aliens? pawn shops?), so I'm glad that I found this venue for historical stories.
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I am pretty sure the Turks changed the name of Constantinople during the Turks war of independence and the rise of the young Turks so back in the days of then they still called it Constantinople.
1930 actually,yet Istanbul was used by Ottoman Records along with Konstantiniyye,its tought Istanbul comes from Islambol as Prophet Muhammad had named the city that would spread Islam.
+Extra Credits While a great episode I do feel I have to point out that one of the key points you have missed from the story is the complete lack of the Polish-Lithuanian forces that were quite possibly one of the biggest reasons that helped the HRE and the Hapsburg's hold onto Vienna and in the end forced the Ottoman Turks to flee. And I do feel it is somewhat of a shame that you failed to mention the charge of winged hussars that with the mix of Bavarian and Saxon cavalry was the largest cavalry charge in the world since the ancient times.
+S. I. V. I would expect at least one or two more episodes before they get to the Lies episode. Suleiman managed to do a fair bit more than just the invasion of Hungary.
+melfice999 Wikipedia and the books on my shelf insist this this happened in the 1683 Battle of Vienna, over 150 years later. In 1529, the Polish were having issues with the governance of the Kingdom of Poland ("Golden Freedom" and the secularisation of the Teutonic Knights). The Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth did not happen until 1569, forty years later.
I really do admire this man and his journey of becoming a grand ruler of a massive empire. What I wouldn't give to spend a day talking with the man and how he would be remembered. I can't help, but feel pity for him. Not to mention how amazing a talk between him and Justinian would have been. I think they would have been on opposite sides, but at the same time respect each other and in a strange way be best friends.
Suleyman attacking a city with 20 000 guys inside, with only 100 000 men. Fine to besiege it until surrender, but he launches the assault... Terrible mistake. If he played Paradox wargames, he'd know that having at least 10x more men than the defender is recommended.
+scarfacemperor I thought you needed twice as much not 10, but I don't think that was his problem, I think it was the fact that the defenders were heavily armored infantry while his janissaries wore clothing pretty much.
Brandon Ngo you need thrice as much to besiege, meaning you keep them there to starve off the city. However, if you are in a hurry and want to assault the fortress (which Suleyman did here), you'll take such massive casualties that your army won't look pretty after the assault, if you sent fewer than 10x the number of defenders. "quantity has its quality of its own" - Napoleon
***** Yea, but like I said I dont remember where I heard it from. Also, in total war idk about other people but from my experience better equipment and morale wins sieges. While yes numbers are important it wouldn't really matter if they can't compete with the opposition.
Well, sort of. The Ottoman's fought Napoleon in the War of the Second Coalition, but the Ottoman's would later be friendly with Napoleon and threaten the southern flanks of Austria and Russia. The alliance would be officially over by the time Charles X was attacking Algeria, though.
This is a great series to watch after Justinian and Theodora. The references give this almost nostalgic feeling of the inevitable passage of time and how it affects everyone throughout the ages. .
I didn't watch the Justinian and Theodora series until just recently and I can agree that it is much better watching the story of Suliman afterwards knowing how things with Justinian went.
I am loving this series, I began watching this channel a few months ago and I cannot believe how good it is!! After watching all the other videos about game design and other subjects I understood, you really know how craft a good story, being a cinephile I can tell you many movies could learn a lot from this videos, engaging, deep, informative!! Great job Extra Credits!
+Drakin Kovar You should watch The Magnificent Century on youtube :) Much tears. Has 300 million viewers plus. Its this story brought to life. Watch Aski-Derun. Kosem is about Ahmet Sultan still ongoing.
I LOVE how your artist even went, and researched how the Hungarian holy crown looked to deliver an accurate depiction. (But at this point it's interesting to mention that right after his coronation, the crown has been stolen by a crown guard, and handed over to Ferdinand, so he never actually wore it at length.)
+ManKraft Pwnu U know what why not make both? One about King Gustavus Adolphus and one About King Jan Sobieski or some other great polish king or perhaps a terrible one like Poniatowski.
Lukasz Widerkiewicz No they were used all over Europe. First in Hungray, Croatia and Poland to later be adapted in all of western Europe. Poland took a step further and improved on them making them the best shock cavalry to be used, thanks to its armor, fast and strong horses, long lances and training. The winged Hussars were a heavy horse unit yet didn't require horse armor and the feathers on their wings made a characteristic noise that was said to scare other horses away.
Fansinating episode as hearing the names of the European rulers suddenly made me realise this is the same time period as Henry VIII. Iremember learning about a lot of these events and wars in passing, from an English perspective, when learning about Henry's rule. Really cool to hear about all the diplomacy from the perspective of the other side of the continent.
When well presented, the Drama of History exceeds every other form of entertainment. I am riveted to this story. Well done, you lot. (FYI: Due to an earlier series of yours-Justinian- I went and found Procopius' Secret History . . . and am reading it with interest.)
Justinian, Theodora and Belisarius were some of the most badass people in any series EC have ever covered... And the scene where Suleiman looks at the ghost/image of Justinian... Touched
Since they are doing a Ottoman series about Suleiman, why not do another country in the Middle East on the Abassids and with Harun al Rashid as the spotlight character.
+Joshua King I don't know if it's what you refer, but it should be terrible that you as all fathers love your sons, but no matter what all of them but one are doomed to die!
Burhan the Somali For what i have read that was pretty common in their culture, perhaps in those times was not that easy moving from poitn A to point B more for a high profile character, also is the ambition factor, the false hope that you can become the ruler, but i am wondering and you made a good question.
It would be so cool if you could do a series on the war of 1812 it's such an important war for both Candians and Americans and has alot of intresting historical figures like Andrew Jackson ,Tacumseh and Issac Brock. It is also often Ignored even at the time due to the Neoplionic Wars. Theres just so many intresting stories . the war of 1812 defined Canada's Indentity and it was used as an imporant rallying cry for American Patriotism.
What makes this sting that it's said in a sense of Suleiman when he is in his twilight years Reminiscing over his successes and failures and how one time...one time everything seems to be going all well Also nice little reference to Justinian there, I bet Justinian and Suleiman would talk for hours together
+Aerunn Allado It makes sense. I imagine that most great conquerors, being the intelligent people that they were, must have wondered what other conquerors before them might have felt. Did Charlemagne wish he could converse with Caesar? Did Temujin wonder what Alexander might have said to him?
Beowulf DW Yes that is a pretty interesting idea, imagine how the afterlife is tbh I mean there would be a language barrier but yes I wonder what conquerors would've said to eachother and how they did
The storytelling style is an interesting experiment, but it actually comes off as a little less authentic, since we can't actually know what Suleiman was thinking at the time.
+Nathan Ware Eh. I think the history telling part is the authentic portion of the episodes, then the narrative pieces are obviously a stab at emulating how Suleiman felt, putting you in his shoes. So history = fact, narrative makes it feel more relatable.
+Nathan Ware the thing is, humans are great at remembering emotions, but terrible at facts and figures. By telling an emotional story alongside with the factual one, these two are tied together, and it makes the episodes all the more memorable.
+Nathan Ware Don't quote me on this, but I believe there exists diaries of the man, biographies too. And while they can't be trusted to one hundred percent, you can still get a inkling into his thoughts and feelings.
So basically ottoman armies lost by weather instead of knights? Btw that last scene kinda brought tears in my eyes it's really sad to see you Glory days behind you
+99batran In a very twisted way, it is the same empire. With the exception of the Turks, the cultures that live in it are exactly the same, the geography is the same, in a way it is a Turkish Islamic Rome.
Yeah, I read that the Turks claimed to be continuing the Roman empire once. But the Turkish Rome isn't exactly the legit continuation to Rome, at least. However, in the end, it's just trading one Empire for the other, though not exactly the continuation to the previous empire.
+99batran The Ottoman Empire technically continues the Byzantine Empire whether we claim it or not. It tries to conquer lost Byzantine Land , and once the Eastern Empire is back in shape , it attempts to dive in to the West.
+99batran People who claim that the Ottoman Empire claimed to be Rome don't have too much knowledge on the subject if you ask me. While it is true that Mehmed II declared himself "Caesar of Rome" it really wasn't that big of a deal. The Ottoman rulers were always Sultan, Caliph or Khan before Caesar and by the time of Suleiman the title had pretty much dissapeared and was never really used afterwards. Then there is also the fact that Roman law was not followed anymore, almost none of the Roman institutions or state customs were kept in use etc.
At the start of the Siege of Vienna, Suleiman boasted that within two weeks he would be eating his breakfast in St Stephen's Cathedral (which he would convert into a mosque). Two weeks later, on October 11th (St Michael's Day), it poured down with rain, the Turks had made little progress in the siege, their assaults had been repelled several times with heavy casualties. On this morning, Suleiman received a letter from the Viennese defenders 'Your breakfast is getting cold'
I love how these unspoken historical figures are becoming memorable characters now, thanks to this series.
+Anthony Pendley It is because Europeans do not know anything but their own history.
ilmarinen Um The Ottomans had Europeans. Many of them actually.
Mike Ock don’t worry about sulemain,eu4 made him popular,since they are best in 1444 start,since Ming has rebel issues,and mingsplosion
@@harpe9415 You obviously haven't looked at the history of any other continent.
huh? He might have, but Europeans often learn about The US, Russia, Asia and a bit about South America, they close to never hear about the history of the middle east apart from religious studies
There is no feeling more bitter to a great ruler than to know that their glory days are behind them.
A great Turkish historian Halil İnalcık, in a nutshell, says that "When Ottoman army marched to reach Vienna, they had to pass all the Balkans with those rivers, castles and weather. They had to build bridges, take castles and when they finally reach at the gates, it is already autumn and the pockets of sipahis are empty, this is why they had to return every time."
They should have just stationed them around the balkans for a better opportunity, maybe in the spring or summer the they wouldn't suffer the arduous journey.
@@harryy7918 Problem with big empires that they have enemies all around them. Persia would have attacked them if they saw an opening.
@@CrawLBoss What? It was always YOU who attacked US. Who started the Chaldiran war? Shah Ismail or your "Yavuz" Selim??
@@malolelei3937 that's true
@@malolelei3937yeah but like, the Persians did attack the Ottomans during the long turkish war against the habsburg which is basically the kind of event he’s referring to
Wow, that scene of him and Justinian...wow. Very powerful.
+SirSaxamaphone Agreed. Very impressed with the cinematic quality of these shows now. Love watching these.
+SirSaxamaphone Usually they just tell the history, but now they've added storytelling. Setting the entire series as the thoughts of an old Suleiman pondering the past, now giving us the scene with Justinian. It's awesome.
+SirSaxamaphone and when he said "but they were all dead now" was really well read and saddening
SirSaxamaphone
Dunno if you’re still around, but they did a series on the Siege of Vienna
Indeed
You're required BY LAW to execute your own flesh and blood (royal blood no less) solely to prevent civil wars. To be fair, it works, but still... damn.
Yeah. One of the very few instance where 'cursing your own noble birth' is an actual real thing.
+MajkaSrajka Imagine being born as a royal, knowing that no matter how much you loved your own family, you would have to have them killed?
+Samazam Yeah it's horrible, but look at it this way - For the blood of a handful of royals you spare the blood of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of common people.
Here's a fun ethical question for you - what's worse? Murder of a person for no other reason than his birth or a prolonged, bloody and vicious civil war that causes the death of untold number of common people?
There's no winning in this scenario - you just decide who loses.
+JenxRodwell the whites knew what they were doing. marry em off.
+JenxRodwell It's more like "What's worse? Willing and systematic murder of family, or possible, and not guaranteed, civil war?" It's like shooting one of your friends, because you think he got bitten by a zombie. So technically it's possible to win this scenario, if you choose that latter, and get lucky.
The comparison to Justinian is hauntingly beautiful.
+Mitch Radspinner this is one of the best episodes yet
+Bizden Fikirler Thanks for saying that! I agree with you.
+Bizden Fikirler If I'm not mistaken Mehmed II was named Caesar of Rome by the Orthodox Pope when he captured Constantinople.
Why did he compare to Justinian?
+erdal0 Because of the similarities in their stories and their rise to power. They both lost so much in making their empires. That and Justinian would have been one of the rare people who could understand the weight of leadership on such a vast scale. There is a comfort in in empathy that sympathy can't always fill.
Suleiman's armies did _not_ get along with European weather. I can't imagine the disaster which would have occurred if he tried to march on Russia...
+Timothy McLean Russia is not exactly indicative of most other European weather, which should be relatively manageable to even an army coming from the heat of the middle east, so long as they had generally proper winter clothing.
DaS Guardians Exactly.
+TheRezro Yeah, but the Golden Horde didn't come from the Middle East, but from Central Asia, with comparable winters to Russia (indeed, much of it IS a part of Russia in modern times, though it wasn't back then).
+Timothy McLean Nobody takes Russia in the winter. Except for, the Mongols.
+Timothy McLean has anyone ever succeeded in the march to russia
1:20 I want a cup that says "SARCASM" too so I can smugly drink from it after saying something sarcastic.
Paradoxical Outcome +
same
I need that.
I bet that ibrahim also had that cup
Same.
Knowing how his story will end , i cant help but to get too emotional....And the parallels with Justinian....Just brings tears to my eyes.
Well honestly , same.
+Theocles Saturn Slavery existed everywhere
7:21 I have genuinely developed nostalgia towards the Justinian figure appearing on these, the idea of these people sharing so many great and similar ideas trough the ages tells you something about a true great lider
That Parallel to Justianian in that last scene tho
+didactic polymath Yeah, that was a hell of a moment.
+didactic polymath chills man, chills.
+didactic polymath THAT moment is the reason why I think this channel needs more exposure. The History Channel is full of "reality" junk (aliens? pawn shops?), so I'm glad that I found this venue for historical stories.
its ironic suleimon rules an empire that killed off justinian's empire
Vik Ing The older History channel was great but it got all split up into "specialty" channels which killed the main channel.
Ghost of Justinian brings tears to my eyes.
+WanderingRurouni92 I'm glad someone feels the same as me! :)
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+Extra Credits in Mohacs, the "cs" is pronounced as "ch" in the word "chariot"
I am pretty sure the Turks changed the name of Constantinople during the Turks war of independence and the rise of the young Turks so back in the days of then they still called it Constantinople.
+Extra Credits Will Malta be mentioned in this series?
1930 actually,yet Istanbul was used by Ottoman Records along with Konstantiniyye,its tought Istanbul comes from Islambol as Prophet Muhammad had named the city that would spread Islam.
I love this aspect of world history. You should also do a video on Mughal Empire (the dudes behind Taj Mahal)
Once again, Hungary calls to Suleiman: it's his best chance at western Europe. But the opposition's grown fierce.
+Extra Credits While a great episode I do feel I have to point out that one of the key points you have missed from the story is the complete lack of the Polish-Lithuanian forces that were quite possibly one of the biggest reasons that helped the HRE and the Hapsburg's hold onto Vienna and in the end forced the Ottoman Turks to flee. And I do feel it is somewhat of a shame that you failed to mention the charge of winged hussars that with the mix of Bavarian and Saxon cavalry was the largest cavalry charge in the world since the ancient times.
+S. I. V. I would expect at least one or two more episodes before they get to the Lies episode. Suleiman managed to do a fair bit more than just the invasion of Hungary.
+melfice999 This is the first siege of Viena. I think that charge happened during the second siege which happened during XVII century.
+melfice999 Wikipedia and the books on my shelf insist this this happened in the 1683 Battle of Vienna, over 150 years later. In 1529, the Polish were having issues with the governance of the Kingdom of Poland ("Golden Freedom" and the secularisation of the Teutonic Knights). The Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth did not happen until 1569, forty years later.
+MrBurgeri Aahh so it is so it is. thank you for pointing out my own foolish mistake.
Charles V looks like a fucking badass in that black armor.
+Gracielo Barteza Everybody looks like a badass in black armour.
Trevor Alcove
Yeah, but not as much as Charles does.
Well you are talking about the most powerful man of the Protestant reformation
He is part of the reason England was no longer catholic
Si
@@thesuddendemise7735 Charles v is not catholic ?
I feel like the narrative choice of flash backs really paid dividends this episode. Suleiman wishing to speak to Justinian brought tears to my eyes.
That ending hit me right in the feels man.
There's a Justinian shaped hole in my Justinian shaped heart
+Kieran Witgen I know that pain.
+Kabir Škrijelj I know and it's gonna kill me when he orders it.
+Kabir Škrijelj The mute part I didn't know but I do know that Ibrahim was Bosnian.
Well what mother doesn't want her child to rule the empire
I really do admire this man and his journey of becoming a grand ruler of a massive empire. What I wouldn't give to spend a day talking with the man and how he would be remembered. I can't help, but feel pity for him. Not to mention how amazing a talk between him and Justinian would have been. I think they would have been on opposite sides, but at the same time respect each other and in a strange way be best friends.
+Sagal Aden I did now. Man what a turn for the worst.
+Sagal Aden I guess it is another historical lesson of "Whoever rises to the top will eventually fall by another's hand or their own."
ajshim
Fun fact: When writing Lord of the Rings, J.R.R. Tolkien was inspired by the siege of Vienna and so made the siege of Minas Tirith similar to it.
1683 Siege, not the 1529 Siege (the one the video talks about)
Sometimes you just gotta drink deep from the mug of sarcasm.
Suleyman attacking a city with 20 000 guys inside, with only 100 000 men. Fine to besiege it until surrender, but he launches the assault...
Terrible mistake. If he played Paradox wargames, he'd know that having at least 10x more men than the defender is recommended.
+scarfacemperor I thought you needed twice as much not 10, but I don't think that was his problem, I think it was the fact that the defenders were heavily armored infantry while his janissaries wore clothing pretty much.
Brandon Ngo you need thrice as much to besiege, meaning you keep them there to starve off the city.
However, if you are in a hurry and want to assault the fortress (which Suleyman did here), you'll take such massive casualties that your army won't look pretty after the assault, if you sent fewer than 10x the number of defenders.
"quantity has its quality of its own" - Napoleon
***** Idk I play the total war games and I think I remember somewhere that it was 2x but idk I forgot where I heard it from
Brandon Ngo defence is far more powerful in Europa Universalis IV. And that's a big surprise when you come from Total War.
***** Yea, but like I said I dont remember where I heard it from. Also, in total war idk about other people but from my experience better equipment and morale wins sieges. While yes numbers are important it wouldn't really matter if they can't compete with the opposition.
was this the famous french ottoman alliance I hear people talk about or is that later?
Also we need more of the sarcasm mug
Indeed it is ! And it lasts until Napoleon .
Not really it ended after the first coup against the French Monarchy.
Well, sort of. The Ottoman's fought Napoleon in the War of the Second Coalition, but the Ottoman's would later be friendly with Napoleon and threaten the southern flanks of Austria and Russia. The alliance would be officially over by the time Charles X was attacking Algeria, though.
Big Blue Blob allied to Ottoscum? Oh goodness gracious!
eu4 eu4 eu4
This is a great series to watch after Justinian and Theodora. The references give this almost nostalgic feeling of the inevitable passage of time and how it affects everyone throughout the ages. .
I didn't watch the Justinian and Theodora series until just recently and I can agree that it is much better watching the story of Suliman afterwards knowing how things with Justinian went.
I can't get over this framing device. It's so good!!!
These series just keep getting better and better. Love'em!
That metaphor of the army being a sea, crashing against the gray shore was beautiful. Absolutely beautiful. Props to the writer
I am loving this series, I began watching this channel a few months ago and I cannot believe how good it is!! After watching all the other videos about game design and other subjects I understood, you really know how craft a good story, being a cinephile I can tell you many movies could learn a lot from this videos, engaging, deep, informative!!
Great job Extra Credits!
I love the way you're telling these stories. Simply beautiful. I honestly shed a few tears towards the end of this video and the last one.
+Drakin Kovar You should watch The Magnificent Century on youtube :) Much tears. Has 300 million viewers plus. Its this story brought to life. Watch Aski-Derun. Kosem is about Ahmet Sultan still ongoing.
It would be awesome if they covered the War of Roses next.
+Alex Jones you can vote on patreon....
unematrix Unless you're a patreon supporter
big ups the tewkesbury medieval festival
I LOVE how your artist even went, and researched how the Hungarian holy crown looked to deliver an accurate depiction.
(But at this point it's interesting to mention that right after his coronation, the crown has been stolen by a crown guard, and handed over to Ferdinand, so he never actually wore it at length.)
We need an episode on Poland just so we can have Winged Hussars.
+labrynianrebel Hussars are nothing compared to the Caroleans.
+ManKraft Pwnu U know what why not make both? One about King Gustavus Adolphus and one About King Jan Sobieski or some other great polish king or perhaps a terrible one like Poniatowski.
+Marquis Forneus nope, caroleans are freaks compare to hussars in every possible way, trust me.
TheRezro sorry, I thought that hussars are only been used in Poland.
Lukasz Widerkiewicz No they were used all over Europe. First in Hungray, Croatia and Poland to later be adapted in all of western Europe. Poland took a step further and improved on them making them the best shock cavalry to be used, thanks to its armor, fast and strong horses, long lances and training. The winged Hussars were a heavy horse unit yet didn't require horse armor and the feathers on their wings made a characteristic noise that was said to scare other horses away.
The poetic quality of your narration only make it better.
Fansinating episode as hearing the names of the European rulers suddenly made me realise this is the same time period as Henry VIII. Iremember learning about a lot of these events and wars in passing, from an English perspective, when learning about Henry's rule. Really cool to hear about all the diplomacy from the perspective of the other side of the continent.
Man, these just keep getting better.
"There is a sick man in Europe. The sick man is dying. We must come to an understanding."
+Beowulf DW 19th century ottomens
+GlobleTheater Yep. Just a comment on the fate of empires. Or perhaps the fate of princes?
I kinda like the shot of Suleiman and Justinian stand beside and look at each other.
Sultan: I'm the king of Hungary
Charles: I'm the king of Hungary
People in Hungary: we elected new ruler for us
bruh the ending truly made me emotional man
dat throwback to Justinian though ;-;
Every hour of waiting for a new episode is painful. I love this channel.
I want a sarcasm cup like that
I'm enjoying your style on this series...it's not something you should do every time but here it's working...proud to be a patron!
When well presented, the Drama of History exceeds every other form of entertainment.
I am riveted to this story. Well done, you lot.
(FYI: Due to an earlier series of yours-Justinian- I went and found Procopius' Secret History . . . and am reading it with interest.)
Justinian, Theodora and Belisarius were some of the most badass people in any series EC have ever covered...
And the scene where Suleiman looks at the ghost/image of Justinian...
Touched
The Norman Conquest of England would make an awesome series
Since they are doing a Ottoman series about Suleiman, why not do another country in the Middle East on the Abassids and with Harun al Rashid as the spotlight character.
I'd like to see one about any of the Bactrian Kingdoms.
Al-Rachid is a symbolic figure, but he didn't actually do that much. Al-Mamun would be more interesting, I think.
Damn, really liking this format. That last bit with justinian gave me chills
The Austrian just lucky because all the weather hit the Turkish Soldiers.
hitting it out of the park with this one.
Your videos are really awesome!! Thank you very much for your works !!
This series in particular is so well written and presented. The end of this episode actually made me shiver.
the last few episodes of extra history have been sad :(
How come?
+bobby bob the tone and the art aminly
+fossilized animal's and the lack of women
+Dead Reaper Gaming an extra history series about chathrein the great would be cool
+fossilized animal's yea it would but maybe an other woman hmmm remember that one woman that flied realy good? Yea i cant remember her name
i wonder if he felt the same as louis XIV whoose final words faced with failed campagins and a decimated family tree was "i have loved war too much"
Finding this guy a lot harder to empathize with than the other subjects of these things.
+Joshua King I don't know if it's what you refer, but it should be terrible that you as all fathers love your sons, but no matter what all of them but one are doomed to die!
Burhan the Somali For what i have read that was pretty common in their culture, perhaps in those times was not that easy moving from poitn A to point B more for a high profile character, also is the ambition factor, the false hope that you can become the ruler, but i am wondering and you made a good question.
+Joshua King No idea what you're talking about, I found him quite easy to empathize with
+Joshua King ikr. As a hungarian myself I find it difficult too :D
I can't empathize with him either.
I have to say I love the way your story telling is done in these series
This one gave me goosebumps. Excellent work!
Just wanna say, you guys are awesome ! I've learnt more about history from Extra Credits than History Channel itself !
+Aero7SVR Far less about aliens, though.
Suleiman was so close to getting into Europe...
THEN THE WINGED HUSSARS ARRIVED
General Winter, cold and ruthless.
It would be so cool if you could do a series on the war of 1812 it's such an important war for both Candians and Americans and has alot of intresting historical figures like Andrew Jackson ,Tacumseh and Issac Brock. It is also often Ignored even at the time due to the Neoplionic Wars. Theres just so many intresting stories . the war of 1812 defined Canada's Indentity and it was used as an imporant rallying cry for American Patriotism.
I really like the narratives put on Suleiman's thought.
What makes this sting that it's said in a sense of Suleiman when he is in his twilight years
Reminiscing over his successes and failures and how one time...one time everything seems to be going all well
Also nice little reference to Justinian there, I bet Justinian and Suleiman would talk for hours together
+Aerunn Allado It makes sense. I imagine that most great conquerors, being the intelligent people that they were, must have wondered what other conquerors before them might have felt. Did Charlemagne wish he could converse with Caesar? Did Temujin wonder what Alexander might have said to him?
Beowulf DW Yes that is a pretty interesting idea, imagine how the afterlife is tbh
I mean there would be a language barrier but yes I wonder what conquerors would've said to eachother and how they did
Damn, knowing Justininian's story makes Suleiman's thoughts so much powerful...
Hey Extra Credits! Requested topic: How to do a character creator justice! All the ones I've seen are less than stellar.
4:29
the little dot at the top: I BELIVE I CAN FLY I BELIVE I CAN TOUCH THE SKYYY
Awesome,Bohemia(today Czech Republic) was mentioned in Extra history!
Now I can die in peace.
+TheRezro no it isnt
what like there important because they stayed out of things? because they didn't they just wern't effective in anything they did
#hasburgs not homeland of austria
What are you on about? read what i was originaly saying.
Awesome song in the credits!
Dang
You guys have outdone yourselves. Bravo
The Norman conquests would be very interesting!! They should that next
The storytelling style is an interesting experiment, but it actually comes off as a little less authentic, since we can't actually know what Suleiman was thinking at the time.
+Nathan Ware Eh. I think the history telling part is the authentic portion of the episodes, then the narrative pieces are obviously a stab at emulating how Suleiman felt, putting you in his shoes. So history = fact, narrative makes it feel more relatable.
+Nathan Ware the thing is, humans are great at remembering emotions, but terrible at facts and figures.
By telling an emotional story alongside with the factual one, these two are tied together, and it makes the episodes all the more memorable.
+Nathan Ware Don't quote me on this, but I believe there exists diaries of the man, biographies too. And while they can't be trusted to one hundred percent, you can still get a inkling into his thoughts and feelings.
This is beautifully framed.
So basically ottoman armies lost by weather instead of knights? Btw that last scene kinda brought tears in my eyes it's really sad to see you Glory days behind you
and his rushing in that war because the persian ready to invade his empire.
"And it began to snow." Why is this one so powerful...
Damn to think that they used to kill the brothers and all their sons except one, that's pretty tragic
Suleman and justinian were the same he concentrated on Italy and north Africa while Suleman concentrated everywhere
so how many people went and played Suliman in EUIV??
+Nicholas Roberts ...me.
+Nicholas Roberts i went and crushed suliman.. Hungary uber ales!
I would if I could learn how to play it right. I'm sticking to CK2, thank you very much
+Nicholas Roberts Pleb, who plays as the ottomans way to easy
+Bruce Dobson I meant just for Sulimans rein
The siege of Vienna is where the story picks up in the movie The Adventures of Baron Munchausen
+jrm78 Only three people get that reference :D
Oh no! He slate says May 10 1529 but the script says May 5 1592. :O
*THE slate. Autocorrect. 😅
The end of this episode had me in tears. And I loved the poetry of this episode!
You should do a series on Mathias Hunyadi .
this is much better to listen to/ read than a textbook or a lecture at school
Quick pronounciation note: less like "Mohax" more like "Mohatch" :D Love your videos!
+Maciej Ratyński Mohaç
Can't remember I have watched any other video with this much focus and interest. You guys have outdone yourselves.
I think I found one of them there 'Lies' for you:
At the 2 minute mark you say the year "1592," but it looks like you meant to say '1529' instead.
1:46 I love these little, irrelevant cultural details that get thrown in. It makes each nation feel that much more distinct.
All aboard the feels train at the end
Man, I just wanted to throw some words of support to you all on the extra credits crew; keep at it, absolutely loving the extra history eps
not as exciting as justinian's but damn the regret in this one is strong
+Chien it's cut short, not very detailed. justinian's saga was 13 episodes, this is just 5.
Please do a one off on the Battle of Vienna! Largest cavalry charge in history.
Welp. Off to play the Ottomans in Civ V and be Byzantium's little bitch.
I lived in Vienna for 8 years and often tried to imagine, how it must have loocked back at the siege times.
Please tell me Mustafa Kemal comes next to complete this trilogy.
+Dessa Woah that'd be rad! Please do!!!
+Dessa no
enough of noob turks
+Bauglir M remove vodka
Yesss
Bauglir M stop crying
that ending gave me goosebumps
+peach peche more to come! Deaf and mute assasins get to work.
I can't tell why he was called Suleiman the Magnificent... so far he just has been a half way decent guy inheriting a big empire..
+Bainin Red Because under his rule, the Ottoman Empire flourished to its greatest height. It's gonna be all downhill after his death.
+Bainin Red maybe because all the other guy suck? In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king?
Thanh Ho Viet
The other guys before him couldn't have sucked. After all, they gave him an empire.
i mean other nation monarch
+Bainin Red Europeans call him Magnificent. Turks call him Lawgiver.
wow, that last few minutes of the video broke my feels box....so sad
+DynomitePunch Mustafa's strangulation made 80 million Turks cry and visit hes tomb the next day. Same with Ibrahim pasa.
They arrived at September 11th.
can i just say, this style of narration for this particular story is awesome. keep up the good work guys
its ironic to do a series about an empire that killed off Justinian's empire. It doesnt feel quite right to me.
1453, remember Justinian i guess
+99batran In a very twisted way, it is the same empire. With the exception of the Turks, the cultures that live in it are exactly the same, the geography is the same, in a way it is a Turkish Islamic Rome.
Yeah, I read that the Turks claimed to be continuing the Roman empire once. But the Turkish Rome isn't exactly the legit continuation to Rome, at least. However, in the end, it's just trading one Empire for the other, though not exactly the continuation to the previous empire.
+99batran The Ottoman Empire technically continues the Byzantine Empire whether we claim it or not. It tries to conquer lost Byzantine Land , and once the Eastern Empire is back in shape , it attempts to dive in to the West.
+99batran
People who claim that the Ottoman Empire claimed to be Rome don't have too much knowledge on the subject if you ask me. While it is true that Mehmed II declared himself "Caesar of Rome" it really wasn't that big of a deal. The Ottoman rulers were always Sultan, Caliph or Khan before Caesar and by the time of Suleiman the title had pretty much dissapeared and was never really used afterwards.
Then there is also the fact that Roman law was not followed anymore, almost none of the Roman institutions or state customs were kept in use etc.
At the start of the Siege of Vienna, Suleiman boasted that within two weeks he would be eating his breakfast in St Stephen's Cathedral (which he would convert into a mosque). Two weeks later, on October 11th (St Michael's Day), it poured down with rain, the Turks had made little progress in the siege, their assaults had been repelled several times with heavy casualties. On this morning, Suleiman received a letter from the Viennese defenders 'Your breakfast is getting cold'
Roxelana had another name, Right? It waw something like Hurrem
+NoWaifuNoLife Hurrem sultana,yes.
Yeah Roxelana was her birth name, but when she got captured and converted to Islam she changed her name to Hurrem.
"The cannon began to sing". Can you hear the cannon sing, singing the songs of angry men?