To respond to some of the comments: - This is a Hollywood movie, not a documentary or a training film. It's for entertainment and in that respect it does very well. It's a good modern adaptation of the book. Hollywood is all about the story, not the facts. I can allow that you probably can't read the label on the stew can at 1 mile, but you can clearly identify the can. - There's no implication that this is the first time that he's shot at this distance at a target on that stump. It's highly likely that he already has data at that distance in those conditions with that rifle and that ammunition. In fact, he has his data book beside the rifle which supports this (1:00 min mark). These days, he would use a Kestrel or ballistic app. - Sniper kills at 2500+ yards have been accomplished as far back in the Vietnam war with 10X Unertl scopes mounted on Browning M2 .50 cal belt-fed machine guns. The current record was a Canadian sniper team in Iraq with a confirmed kill at 3540m, but that has since been surpassed in Ukraine with a kill at a reported 3800m (4156 yds). The Canadian team reported multiple confirmed at 3000+m. A shot like this with a high performance cartridge in a modern rifle with a modern optic and ballistic solver is entirely possible. - The reason that he's hand-feeding the round is that he doesn't want to damage the tip of the bullet (which can change the ballistics) by feeding from the magazine. This can happen when the bullet is forced out of the magazine and up the feed ramp into the chamber. Polymer tipped ammo is especially prone to this.
Thank you. Someone who understands that they do JUST enough to make this scene "as realistic as entertainable". That being we see enough "things" to prove he knows what he's doing and in ways actual long range shooters/snipers would actually do them. Some movies do it decently enough yet weren't trying to do so on purpose, while others proclaim "accuracy and realism" yet are some of the worst offenders ever created by Hollywood. "Sniper" is one such example of the former. They get the small things right, such as camo and little sniper "tricks" to do the job like eye drops. "The Quiet American" is an example of the latter. Has more details of the process, but ended up being horribly inaccurate or just plain silly.
@@Soldier4USA2005 If you want horribly inaccurate and just plain silly, go check out “The American” with George Clooney. You can watch Clooney build a suppressor with fender washers, a manual transmission gear shaft, and an old piece of pipe in the kitchen with a hammer.
The round pressurizes the air so much the increased density refracts light creating a distortion bubble not unlike heat waves on the desert. My favorite part of this scene!
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Unlikely. I'm not aware of any scope meant for shooting that has THAT high of a magnification. You could probably see the can, but it would be a tiny bright dot against the dark forest background. I'm also not aware of any scope that has that fine of an adjustment. Most MIL scopes have 0.1 MIL adjustments, which is 1cm at 100 meters. At 1600ish meters, that's 16 cm of movement between clicks, probably wider than the can. It's possible that your crosshairs, dialed in properly, COULD line up perfectly, but the thickness of the crosshairs/dot would probably cover the can entirely. Furthermore, I'm not aware of any shooter that could shoot a target the size of a soup can at 1 mile RELAIBLY on the first shot. Most of these awesome long range shots are either luck, took MANY shots to get a hit, or are against targets the size of billboards.
@@theodorehunter4765 you are correct. He is shooting a .408 chytac Intervention. It comes with a 22 power scope i believe. I have a nightforce nx8 on my rifle it goes to 34 power. Tried seeing objects at 1 mile and yes I could see a can but absolutely no way to see what was shown in the movie. This video has been shown and discussed numerous times on different threads. It was amazing how many people believe he uses his "dope", pulls up on the can center mas, and dead shot every time. I'm not saying no one could shoot the can but I'm in total agreement with you, luck or multiple shots. I would need to do the math but that is way less than moa. To even hit a 2 foot by 2 foot target at that distance consistently would be very impressive. Mark and Sam after work is a shooting channel that does things like this.
@@Kenny.G-33 i enjoyed the movie. It has no more bs in it than other movies. Absolutely nothing wrong with the movie but people shouldn't argue something as fact when they dont even have a basic understanding is my point. In other threads i saw this alot. Yes I do understand these things are to make the movie better, which they did.
Hand feeding a round controls potential damage caused by mechanical feeding from the mag. The bullet could get scratched or the tip damaged and at that range, the ballistics will definitely be changed. After 1 mile, the Coriolis effect comes into play. That being the rotation of the Earth changes the point of impact. So when that's a factor, you're essentially calibrating for where the target WILL be after the round is fired. Like when a quarterback throws a ball ahead of the receiver. By the time the ball reaches the "point of impact", the receiver has made their way to that same point to catch the ball. Not quite the same, as the receiver is representing the target in motion due to the Earth's rotation, but I hope you, get the point. Also ... a high enough power optic will potentially allow you to read the expiration date on a can of stew at 1 mile.
Actually 2, 080miles is not that long... In Ukraine, couple a months ago a 3800m(3,280 yards) shot was fired that flew 6,46 second and hit the russian target in the chin area... it is THE longest shot ever confirmed!!!! Just think.. In those 6 sec, at that distance.. the smallest wind gust changes the direction with 20-30 feet left or right, depending on the wind direction, the Coriolis effect is taking another 300 or 450 yards.. the earth curved combined with movement... Either you got a complete still target, or you must be magical, lucky as f, or.... the deadliest sharpshooter ever, because you have a few sec to calculate where the target will be in 6 sec, you have a cloth, a rag or something, hanging at half of the distance to watch the wind change... And still, an Ukraine sniper achieved the impossible... He shot and killed a moving target at 4000 meters, 4 km.... It's just mind-blowing, for someone who fired half of my life free time, with scoped rifles.. from Mauser K98, Lee Enfield, Springfield 1901,Moisin Nagant... till all the modern rifles Dragunov, Whincester, Barrett 50 cal, and so on...
Qué piensas de alguna acción padre que pues yo que soy padre que violar a mi hija de 7 años que me vino la primera vez yo estuve muerto cuando me dijeron eso aquí en Los Ángeles y después que sé yo sin saber nada de mi hija tanto tiempo sin saber nada de mételo todo mi dinero todo me dejaron en la calle porque solo porque soy el espíritu de Jesús
to go for a target at that range you need to take into account the coriolis force ( don't you mistake it for coriolan... ...the ladder being Beethoven and some roman general who got angry at the own people wanting to engage and did back down only after his wife and his Mum had a word with him... ...actually the way I'd do... ) and it is a second order parameter that is only if it is not outpassed by some first order parameters for example velocity and direction of the wind, it gets in and you need to adjust your fire solution properly... ...I don't know, if I am ever in need of a gun, gonna ask Mum Princess for she knows how to handle one... ...but I like the dog very much in this scene and the remoteness of the mountains... ...all peaceful and quiet, isn't it? Le p'tit Daniel, by the way is the coriolis force a < Scheinkraft > in german, as it just appears to be some force physics describes... ...actually it is the momentum of your bullet going east according to the rotation of the earth that goes counterclockwise, when firing down south or northwards maintaining this momentum way east on its way south or north and furthermore there is a difference in the speed of the rotation of the earth with respect to the speed of the aequator you going ever more south or northwards... ...so as it is essentially the rotating system you are an integral of, it is a Scheinkraft, cause some observer in space for example wouldn't recognize any deflection of the shot at all... ...now may I ask for some burgers, Mum?
No you wouldn't. .... unlike, say the Paris gun of WW1 with a shell flight time of 3 MINUTES...then yes. A high velocity rifle at a mile? Any Coriolis effect would be "background noise" compared to other factors...
actually what I did write,isn't it? The coriolis effect is a second order parameter and of course to go for one mile it is soon ruled out by other factors that effect your trajectory,... ...maybe I did not stress enough that it is not that important on that range but that I essentially wanted to convey. Le p'tit Daniel
To respond to some of the comments:
- This is a Hollywood movie, not a documentary or a training film. It's for entertainment and in that respect it does very well. It's a good modern adaptation of the book. Hollywood is all about the story, not the facts. I can allow that you probably can't read the label on the stew can at 1 mile, but you can clearly identify the can.
- There's no implication that this is the first time that he's shot at this distance at a target on that stump. It's highly likely that he already has data at that distance in those conditions with that rifle and that ammunition. In fact, he has his data book beside the rifle which supports this (1:00 min mark). These days, he would use a Kestrel or ballistic app.
- Sniper kills at 2500+ yards have been accomplished as far back in the Vietnam war with 10X Unertl scopes mounted on Browning M2 .50 cal belt-fed machine guns. The current record was a Canadian sniper team in Iraq with a confirmed kill at 3540m, but that has since been surpassed in Ukraine with a kill at a reported 3800m (4156 yds). The Canadian team reported multiple confirmed at 3000+m. A shot like this with a high performance cartridge in a modern rifle with a modern optic and ballistic solver is entirely possible.
- The reason that he's hand-feeding the round is that he doesn't want to damage the tip of the bullet (which can change the ballistics) by feeding from the magazine. This can happen when the bullet is forced out of the magazine and up the feed ramp into the chamber. Polymer tipped ammo is especially prone to this.
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Thank you for explaining this so I don't have to..
Thank you.
Someone who understands that they do JUST enough to make this scene "as realistic as entertainable". That being we see enough "things" to prove he knows what he's doing and in ways actual long range shooters/snipers would actually do them.
Some movies do it decently enough yet weren't trying to do so on purpose, while others proclaim "accuracy and realism" yet are some of the worst offenders ever created by Hollywood. "Sniper" is one such example of the former. They get the small things right, such as camo and little sniper "tricks" to do the job like eye drops. "The Quiet American" is an example of the latter. Has more details of the process, but ended up being horribly inaccurate or just plain silly.
@@Soldier4USA2005 If you want horribly inaccurate and just plain silly, go check out “The American” with George Clooney. You can watch Clooney build a suppressor with fender washers, a manual transmission gear shaft, and an old piece of pipe in the kitchen with a hammer.
@@vettepilot427 Yeah.
The concept is there, as people have been making suppressors forever, but HOW it's shown is just bad.
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The round pressurizes the air so much the increased density refracts light creating a distortion bubble not unlike heat waves on the desert. My favorite part of this scene!
correction it's 1760 yards
0.997 miles. A difference of ~171 inches. The issue is him using unamerican units.
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If you have ever stripped down a gun and/or rebuilt it you know it makes almost zero sound, unlike this rendition of tubular bells
That poor dog
What about the dogs hearing protection? Enjoyed the movie. Similar to Todays government corruption
Dog was not in the frame during the shot. TV tricks
Dogs hearing damage is not service dog related!
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So how many think you would be able to read the can at 1 mile? How many think the cross hairs would be dead center?
Unlikely. I'm not aware of any scope meant for shooting that has THAT high of a magnification. You could probably see the can, but it would be a tiny bright dot against the dark forest background.
I'm also not aware of any scope that has that fine of an adjustment. Most MIL scopes have 0.1 MIL adjustments, which is 1cm at 100 meters. At 1600ish meters, that's 16 cm of movement between clicks, probably wider than the can. It's possible that your crosshairs, dialed in properly, COULD line up perfectly, but the thickness of the crosshairs/dot would probably cover the can entirely.
Furthermore, I'm not aware of any shooter that could shoot a target the size of a soup can at 1 mile RELAIBLY on the first shot. Most of these awesome long range shots are either luck, took MANY shots to get a hit, or are against targets the size of billboards.
@@theodorehunter4765 you are correct. He is shooting a .408 chytac Intervention. It comes with a 22 power scope i believe. I have a nightforce nx8 on my rifle it goes to 34 power. Tried seeing objects at 1 mile and yes I could see a can but absolutely no way to see what was shown in the movie.
This video has been shown and discussed numerous times on different threads. It was amazing how many people believe he uses his "dope", pulls up on the can center mas, and dead shot every time. I'm not saying no one could shoot the can but I'm in total agreement with you, luck or multiple shots. I would need to do the math but that is way less than moa. To even hit a 2 foot by 2 foot target at that distance consistently would be very impressive. Mark and Sam after work is a shooting channel that does things like this.
how many want to plant some cabbages in their garden instead of potatoes?
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@@Kenny.G-33 i enjoyed the movie. It has no more bs in it than other movies. Absolutely nothing wrong with the movie but people shouldn't argue something as fact when they dont even have a basic understanding is my point. In other threads i saw this alot. Yes I do understand these things are to make the movie better, which they did.
Um… why are you feeding a round when you have a mag in? I get that you can. But why are you? Also at a mile you ain’t seein any details like that.
Hundreds and hundreds of years, quite certainly. @@WaterlooFlu
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Hand feeding a round controls potential damage caused by mechanical feeding from the mag. The bullet could get scratched or the tip damaged and at that range, the ballistics will definitely be changed. After 1 mile, the Coriolis effect comes into play. That being the rotation of the Earth changes the point of impact. So when that's a factor, you're essentially calibrating for where the target WILL be after the round is fired.
Like when a quarterback throws a ball ahead of the receiver. By the time the ball reaches the "point of impact", the receiver has made their way to that same point to catch the ball. Not quite the same, as the receiver is representing the target in motion due to the Earth's rotation, but I hope you, get the point.
Also ... a high enough power optic will potentially allow you to read the expiration date on a can of stew at 1 mile.
@@Soldier4USA2005 thanks for that.
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Actually 2, 080miles is not that long...
In Ukraine, couple a months ago a 3800m(3,280 yards) shot was fired that flew 6,46 second and hit the russian target in the chin area... it is THE longest shot ever confirmed!!!!
Just think.. In those 6 sec, at that distance.. the smallest wind gust changes the direction with 20-30 feet left or right, depending on the wind direction, the Coriolis effect is taking another 300 or 450 yards.. the earth curved combined with movement...
Either you got a complete still target, or you must be magical, lucky as f, or.... the deadliest sharpshooter ever, because you have a few sec to calculate where the target will be in 6 sec, you have a cloth, a rag or something, hanging at half of the distance to watch the wind change...
And still, an Ukraine sniper achieved the impossible... He shot and killed a moving target at 4000 meters, 4 km....
It's just mind-blowing, for someone who fired half of my life free time, with scoped rifles.. from Mauser K98, Lee Enfield, Springfield 1901,Moisin Nagant... till all the modern rifles Dragunov, Whincester, Barrett 50 cal, and so on...
I can do 300m on call of duty warzone :D
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to go for a target at that range you need to take into account the coriolis force ( don't you mistake it for coriolan... ...the ladder being Beethoven and some roman general who got angry at the own people wanting to engage and did back down only after his wife and his Mum had a word with him... ...actually the way I'd do... ) and it is a second order parameter that is only if it is not outpassed by some first order parameters for example velocity and direction of the wind, it gets in and you need to adjust your fire solution properly... ...I don't know, if I am ever in need of a gun, gonna ask Mum Princess for she knows how to handle one...
...but I like the dog very much in this scene and the remoteness of the mountains... ...all peaceful and quiet, isn't it?
Le p'tit Daniel, by the way is the coriolis force a < Scheinkraft > in german, as it just appears to be some force physics describes... ...actually it is the momentum of your bullet going east according to the rotation of the earth that goes counterclockwise, when firing down south or northwards maintaining this momentum way east on its way south or north and furthermore there is a difference in the speed of the rotation of the earth with respect to the speed of the aequator you going ever more south or northwards... ...so as it is essentially the rotating system you are an integral of, it is a Scheinkraft, cause some observer in space for example wouldn't recognize any deflection of the shot at all... ...now may I ask for some burgers, Mum?
No you wouldn't. .... unlike, say the Paris gun of WW1 with a shell flight time of 3 MINUTES...then yes. A high velocity rifle at a mile? Any Coriolis effect would be "background noise" compared to other factors...
actually what I did write,isn't it?
The coriolis effect is a second order parameter and of course to go for one mile it is soon ruled out by other factors that effect your trajectory,... ...maybe I did not stress enough that it is not that important on that range but that I essentially wanted to convey.
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@@reinhardtristaneugen9113 Ahh..gotcha. Sorry. Yes, NOT a factor one would need to be concerned about.
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