When we see people thru a different lense we can easily be tempted to think or we can judge them by their appearance discretion decoram Virtue and Integrity are traits that are I believe passed down from 1 generation of women and men to another generation the lie is that many women and men believe a lie this is who you are this is the person you've become and that's not true if only someone would have spoken the right words to encourage her in her talents and gifts
The demolition was stopped. On June 26, 2024 the Los Angeles city council voted to make Marilyn Monroe's home a Historic-Cultural Monument. I was there at City Hall in LA when the vote took place.
If anyone out there is looking for an incredibly intelligent, poetic, dignified answer to help explain Norma Jean's tragic life, you need only listen to Clifford Odet's interview toward the end of this video (19:22). This man knew her, loved her, and obviously respected her. What a beautiful and honest tribute.
C. E., I hope you see my reply even 3 years after your comment. You said it perfectly: Clifford Odets' tribute to Marilyn was profoundly insightful, articulate, compassionate, loving, and respectful. If only Marilyn could have had such loving friends from the beginning and throughout her life, all might have been well.
Marlene Lira, Yes, is a legend and loved earnestly. Thank you for sharing, to all her Fans. We do love her, fighting for acceptance. It was Late in life to receive the love She needed. Honey, MM,NJB, the rude, selfish people used you, studios, Men, some women. You stood up and faced it all. Never lied about Anything, honest and I believe you Were wonderful. Kim Novak said it all!! Most people just Take, take care if their desires. Dad
Norma seemed to have deep abandonment issues stemming from being neglected as well as not being nurtured during her formative years. From having her personal boundaries violated starting in early childhood she had painful insecurities. Add to the mix, having to deal with so many sexual predators in the profession she was in, it's miraculous that she lived past the age of 25 without completely losing her mind.
Brenda: Agree. Spot on..... Abandonment in her childhood, left deep emotional scars on this beautiful soul... Such a complete Pity. Add to that fact, she was used by Hollywood and so many selfish men. RIP...Norma Jean!
I read my first book about Marilyn when I was 14 and have been fascinated by her ever since. This is the best, most substantative and insightful piece about MM that I have yet heard (commentary by Clifford Odets and Jean Negulesco in particular). Not surprising since it's hosted by the broadcast legend Charles Collingswood. Thank you for the posting.
The fact that George Cukor was one of a number of men who don’t respect women or even despise women is unsurprising given how misogynistic the Hollywood system is. She was desired by men; they constantly underestimated her mind; her genius at comic acting. Thank heavens she made the films she did. He certainly became famous because of her genius at acting.
This was incredible! Thank you so much! I love that this broadcast was so close to her death because there was a true recollection of who she was and what she was like. Unlike today when it’s been talked about so much and possibly changed. Also all the people that truly knew her are now deceased. It’s great to hear from some of those people. Amazing. I loved it. 💋
I hate watching the footage of her with Arthur Miller. Except for pecking her in a kiss, he doesn't touch her, barely looks at her. He left her, blaming her for her insatiable needs. Looks to me like he wasn't able to provide the most basic human need: affection.
Jackie S It is clear to me also that he didn't feel anything for her. You can see in this video when she kisses him he doesn't reciprocate the kiss he pretty much rejects it. It just makes me so sad because what she wanted more than anything else was to be loved. Arthur Miller was clearly very talented but he was also cold, hard, and unfeeling.
@@kiranolan7104 Yes, terribly sad - she was desperate 4 luv, real luv, all her life. But all the guys she picked betrayed her. Miller was vile - she deserved far better!
So very happy to have finally seen this program having heard so much about it. I realize that it being filmed so soon after Marilyn's death left those interviewed only with the assumption of suicide. I do appreciate the kind words from so many and especially to hear Clifford Odets obvious loving and caring words. Not thrilled with Cukor but I am sure it is because of my knowledge of what he said long after this interview. Thank you again my friend for sharing another rare piece on Marilyn.
"She was well-behaved, thought she was happy, maybe she was an actress already" At an early age, she knew the real world isn't where she wanted to live in, so she acted and lived in her own world to survive. Oh, little girl. :'(
Marilyn lived a heroic life. Every time she had to perform her demons came up.and.had to be defeated. she had the guts to pursue her dreams. and she lived the american dream despite her awful.childhood.
Wow! Thankyou so much for sharing your fascinating Marilyn collection with us. I have never seen this! Hugely thought provoking documentary. Excellent stuff x
I kind of get annoyed when everyone constantly portrays her as a victim. She wasn't a victim ( only as far as people using and abusing her star status was concerned) What people fail to see is that she was also amazingly courageous and strong. To have endured most of what a lot of the people around her dished out and not quit her while acting career shows tenacity and the ability to spring back. She was a survivor for the most part. It was the people ( or should I say the users) and the doctors who really were I'll equipped to deal with the sort of issues Marilyn had ( bipolar being one and a severe insomnia problem) She literally needed pills to help her to sleep every night. And the doctors willy nilly dolling them out to her. That's what killed her she would have survived I believe if she'd had the right supportive people around her who knew what they were dealing with in the first place.
Shannyn Tyler I firmly believe that she had PTSD, which gave her all sorts of problems with sleeping. I have PTSD, from 15yrs of being molested by my stepdad and I also take sleeping pills to fall asleep, stay asleep and fight the flashbacks. Considering she had severe trauma in her childhood as well, it makes sense why she depended on them and often took more than prescribed.
@@sallybenardello6533 *I think a lot of people need to do more & better research!!!! Stop listening to people that think they knew her... Look at her letters days before!!!! She was excited to start a new chapter in her life! & Yes they kinda down played that insurance money part!!! The doc with the cigar that said she overdosed, dodged the question!!*
BlueEyed _Scorpio Norma Jean Baker was ABSOLUTELY MURDERED. What faction of high power was responsible for the killing AND the cover up is the question that will NEVER be permitted an answer. I personally believe (from TONS of research!!!) that ALL factions were asked permission ahead of time, regarding The Hit, just like the mafia does. Marilyn stepped on so many toes because she was smart and had so many bigshots by The Bxxls; so she thought; so that she could run and control everything and get her own way. Hard to know which faction had more reason, since ALL factions were being squeezed hard by Marilyn. You live by the sword, you die by the sword. Marilyn was no victim. She was playing a very dangerous game and she knew that. And she was very happy and very arrogant her last days because she thought she had ALL THE BIGSHOT'S bxxls in the ringer and that she had won the war. Little did she know that she left ALL OF THEM no choice but extermination. I dont think assasination EVER crossed her mind because I think she believed her fame protected her from that retaliation. Marilyn was no innocent victim all the way back to her youth. She was a manipulator and user from puberty onward that we know of. Maybe even younger, perhaps born with that personality (her mother had it) Narcissism!! destroys all around them and every now and then the narcissist gets payback even though it is rare.
She was treated like a piece of meat. There were obviously many contributing factors that led to her taking her final breath. At least now she is resting in peace away from all the hurt and suffering she endured throughout her brief life.
Clifford Odet sure prophesied correctly. The cult of Marilyn grew to enormous proportions. If we could have, we'd have brought her back to life. The star we couldn't afford to lose.
This was a "special edition" of the weekly CBS News documentary series "EYEWITNESS", which aired on Friday nights at 10:30pm(et), right after "THE TWILIGHT ZONE".
I really resent George Cukor in this video with his phony praise of Marilyn Monroe - his actions at the time of Marilyn's firing from the movie "Something's Got to Give" in 1962, shortly before her death, showed how much he really hated her when he insisted to 20th Century Fox Studios that she be fired because of her attitude while working on the film, because of her unnecessary tardiness (Marilyn was very ill at the time from a sinus infection) and also he made her look like a complete flake even though she was really physically sick at the time. Fox did fire Marilyn and they also shut the picture down but when Dean Martin said he wouldn't do the movie if Marilyn wasn't in it, Fox changed their minds and hired Marilyn Monroe back and was going to replace George Cukor with director John Negulesco. Unfortunately, Marilyn died 3 or 4 days after she was resigned to do the movie. If anyone watches the filming of "Something's Got to Give" here on youtube.com, they will see that Marilyn Monroe was not unprofessional, she was not hard to get along with on the set - she was kind to everyone! George Cukor and 20th Century Fox fired Marilyn because she was ill and they didn't care about that - they were only concerned in using her for making more money!
"Hollywood created her," said George Cukor. Only the "her" that was created was not a real woman. Marilyn knew this in her soul, and feared she was nothing except that image. She fought against that a long time... when she wanted desperately to play a serious role, as the prostitute Sasha in "Crime and Punishment," she was denied the opportunity to act seriously. Lee Strasburg used her to boost his acting school, but was among those who denigrated her. R.I.P., Marilyn. It took a new generation to appreciate you as an actress and as a person in your own right.
I agree. although she did achieve alot of her goals and she garnered many awards for Prince and The Showgirl internationally. Her performance in Bus Stop was also highly praised while she was alive and she had plans to do theatre prior to her death.
It's astounding to hear Clifford Odets compare Marilyn to a show pony, or George Cukor refer to MM as a dignified creature. Both would consider themselves sympathisers but the underlying misogyny is palpable.
I wouldn’t take the “creature” and “show pony” pronouns too literally. We’re all creatures, so there is no devaluation in being referred to as one. It’s simply not a word often used today to describe people. And Odets did not refer to Marilyn as a show pony directly, only in abstract. Learn to read between the lines people. Clifford Odets clearly had respect for Marilyn, and I felt his assessment of her nature and legacy was absolutely spot on.
The studios and directors no names mentioned 'George Cukor' made life difficult for her, when she was already an actress at the top of her tree and others even said she bought her own unique qualities to the roles that other stars didn't. So I guess I'm trying to say Marilyn was strong and got through her childhood. Only to find bigger bullies out there in the world of film.
She didn't like Cukor one bit and part of her contract for resigning on to something's got to give was to have a new director. If you set the filming of the behind the scenes, cukor was mean, rough, not caring.. he even did it to the young boy's on set and marilyn would talk with them and tell them they were doing a good job and say other sweet things to them.
What a very profound way to explain the enigma and mystery of a Marilyn Monroe from Clifford Odets. He seemed to have understood her and he was just a friend. "A dark companion of a bright, shining star. If only she had that cynicism, but she didnt have that. Instead she was sensitive, intuitive and that was how she was. "
Odet's was the only sensible and sensitive remarks. Cukor came across as creepy with the excessive licking his lips. Everyone who knows Marilyn's story knows he hated her and had no sympathy for her struggles.
Wow! What a fascinating programme. I was clued from the start. Yes agreed Norma's childhood had impacts on her thoughts and feelings, but I also can't help thinking it was'nt solely to blame....
Odetts’ analysis of her chronic lateness was astute. Although she desperately wanted to be a star, on some level she resented the demands that required her to perform like a trained circus pony, and to always look perfect. This ambivalence is understandable given her childhood of not being loved for who she naturally was. She had to transform herself into a perfect goddess in order to be a star. People who endure a childhood of deprivation, rejection and neglect are understandably triggered by adult circumstances that demand they be a certain way in order to be successful (loved). In short, being late is often an unconscious - passive aggressive - way of acting out. As Marilyn’s first modeling agent recalled, she resisted their demands to change her natural appearance. Those instincts - to be accepted for herself - were actually very healthy. Ultimately, she gave in and agreed, radically transforming herself, surgically altering her face, straightening her wavy, brown hair, dying it platinum blonde. One wonders if her life might have had a happier ending if she had stuck to her instincts and not allowed the system to mold her into a “doll.” The agent even used that word in this interview. Marilyn likely wouldn’t have achieved superstardom if she had kept her natural, girl next door appearance instead of becoming a goddess caricature, but she might have gained something better. Perhaps she would have found happiness with her male counterpart - a nice boy next door like Jim, the one she divorced. We’ll never know for sure but as a rule all that glitters isn’t gold, and diamonds most certainly aren’t a girl’s best friend.
In her autobiography she explained how when she was an orphan she had was the 8th person to take a bath out of the same water so that when she made it she liked to take long baths and empty the water and then fill it back up again and put perfumes and oils in the water every time she filled the tub back up and that was why she was so late all the time.
Wonderful piece for it's day, and yet we are still grappling with the same questions, and if possible, the same intensity and hurt emotions. We have so much more knowledge now about her life, especially those last month's, but she is still lost to us - forever. Marilyn's main problem was she was utterly alone, and because of her childhood that void could never, would never be filled. If she had carried a child to term, it's possible she might have found that which alluded her, love and happiness. Of course this film, done within days of her death was still full of things we now know were lies. Yes, she was fired, but that did not contribute to her death, despite Peter Lawfords lies. She was rehired, and that had been in the press prior to her death about the negotiations.
Thanx for this rare footage! The reason for the “dislike” was for the News footage & agency who produced this special. I feel like they again ( media) used Marilyn for a boost in ratings. It made me mad- Norma Jean was more than just an “2-bit actress “ She was smart , witty ,genuine & loving person. That just got caught up in the wrong bad side of Hollywood fame & fortune . I’m sure she just wanted to be accepted & loved like anyone else. I feel like she got used by the “System” . Hollywood “created” Marilyn Monroe & destroyed Norma Jean. I supposed that’s the price you pay for fame & fortune. 💔🥲RIP Norma Jean 😇
It happened because the people that were suppose to protect her, didn't even see how much her spirit cried out. They all ignored the symptoms of depression and more.. Where is Marilyn's little red book she always wrote in is the question.
M. M. Was medically mis'manged. Giving barbiturates and she drinking alcohol , will aggravate any depressive disorder she might have had. But this was 1962---these were days of psychoanalysis and no optimal pharmacological therapy known/prescribed/or practised in those days of 1962. Since 1962, we know a lot how to manage such psych cases.
Eyewitness - Marilyn Monroe: Why? VERY RARE! 1962 television special ua-cam.com/users/SGTG77 This television show aired on August 10th 1962 only 5 days after Marilyn's death
Nancy Markiewick The CIA mind control program that they now use on all young actors and musicians nowadays so they don't get out of control.--- Probably because MM became such a big problem once they created her and promoted her to stardom and her brand of MM. Then she thought she (MM) should run the show instead of the producers and backers and investors. She forgot she was just Norma Jean Baker who never finished high school and should have been grateful that they gave her the opportunity to play the full time part of MM. She was NOT an MK ultra victim or they could have controlled her completely and she would still be alive today.
continuing on, I feel the bigger impact on her life, pressure wise, came from the studios Fox, as I feel the studios and that whole system contributed more towards her difficulties in settling. As they always seemed to bring her down. All the more proven from other stars encounters at studios too and all the terrible comments and put downs.
He used her as candy on his arm, he wrote 'the misfits' for her. Sadly she read some of his notes about her, they were not flattering, they were devastating.
I will love Marilyn Monroe till my death, and I am 28 today. I love her beauty, her acting, her intelligence, her laugh and her famous quotes. She was a bright star gone to soon. But Marilyn Monroe will never stop shining. She will forever be remembered in our hearts. I really hope i will meet this magnificant angel in heaven when my time comes, RIP MM fly high up in the sky, Amen 🕊🤍🕯
She didn't interrupt their honeymoon. The army guy did, he was on their plane and told her she was going to entertain the troops in Korea... She tried to decline Joe tried to decline. They wouldn't take no for an answer. When she got there she said they had many signs and banners with her name on it. Also, there were many people posing as directors that tried to tape her. Also zanuck and other actual big people in the business tried to tape her. (R word = tape) . Sanders wanted to marry her. Her makeup artist Johnny wanted to marry her. She said no to both. Johnny told her she would be set as he was dying but she wouldn't do it. Sanders married zsa zsa gabor and zsazsa was so very much jealous of her and hated mm.
No wonder she was uncertain and shy: She was told she wasn’t enough all of her life. Her dad didn’t stand by her side, her mom left her for a man, she had to change her look, her name and she was divorced several times - which were setbacks again. Then she worked in a competitive business in which there was jealousy and the most powerful man of the United States treated her like a whore. So did the most powerful man in intellectualism and the most powerful man in sports - her ex husbands. Instead of protecting her - they told her she wasn’t enough. No wonder she got depressions. And killed herself.
I believe I will see my Nicole and my friends and all that died to soon that's my hope that's what keeps me together also MM MJ JL P FM WH also all the other greats armen
The dark companion that always followed her is called foster care! Not with her real parents! That's why she had no self esteem and that's why she died.
She was very pretty before the Hollywood transformation and always had a stunning figure, but the physical changes they made were dramatic - straightening and dying her hair, plastic surgery. If you put the before and after photos side by side, the metamorphosis was monumental. I wonder if she ever missed her original appearance.
She did all that on her own. She straightened and lightened her hair early on, during her modeling career, and had her teeth straightened and a little cosmetic surgery done on her nose and chin before she was signed a second time by Twentieth Century-Fox. She was a master of makeup also; she and her makeup man, Whitey Snyder, together worked out the makeup formula that became synomous with Marilyn Monroe. Her studio had very little input in her image compared to its manufacturing of other stars. It was Howard Hawks, the director of Gentlemen Prefer Blondes, who in a sense added the finishing touches to "Marilyn Monroe" by casting her in the "dumb blonde" part that she couldn't shake afterward and by subtly tweaking her appearance -- sort of streamlining it, so to speak. She was a great student of her own features and of the camera and she modified her features with the camera in mind, and I've never read or heard that she regretted it, though she was well aware that Marilyn Monroe was a persona about which she torn, since it both made and limited her, though she had name changed legally to Marilyn Monroe, which I think says a great deal.
Marilyn Monroe...Monroe was another surname on Norma Jean's mother's side and Marilyn came from the broadway musical star Marilyn Miller....(1893-1936) Lyon said Norma Jean reminded him of her. Other names that were tossed around were... Clare Norman, Meredith and Carol Lind.
She said she didn't like "Marilyn" and wished she had insisted on being called Jean (or Jeane) Monroe when she and Ben Lyon discussed changing her name.
Read Marilyn's autobiography, and importantly, read the book written by close friend at the time of her death, titled, JEANNE CARMEN. Great read. It was no suicide. It was murder. You can see interviews with Jeanne Carmen on youtube. Marilyn Monroe was a brilliant, beautiful, uniquely talented actress- and also highly intelligent. Often was described by friends as sweet, shy, loyal, a hard worker . . . There has been only one Marilyn Monroe.
fascinating this was just 5 days after her suicide, i think most of the comments are pretty accurate, what they didn't know was bobby kennedy had just broke it off with her that day, and marilyn was obviously very distraught, and i'm sure she was told not to make any comments about their affair, marilyn was a bit naïve in that sense, thinking a relationship like that could work. the thing about suicide is that killing yourself is an impulsive act, you lose a great job, someone you love leaves you, you're financially ruined... and the first few hours are the worse, the fears, the worries, the hurt, the despair, it's all very intense in the beginning and this is when most people commit suicide, if they can be helped thru a tough time like this the desire to end it all begins to fade, not always, but generally speaking. marilyn was very alone and didn't really have a confidant like that, and the people she did call that night didn't take her threats seriously, something else we've learned about suicide is if you're talking about it, it should be taken very seriously, peter lawford callously told her not to leave a note, she had asked her neighbor jeanne crawford in a "distressed" state to "please come over", crawford said she couldn't come over, she had also called her psychiatrist. finally lawford 2nd guessed his flippant attitude and decided to check up on her... it was too late. but he did destroy her suicide note according to lawford's 3rd wife deborah gould.
Marilyn didnt kill herself, there is plenty of evidence to prove she didnt . And scientifically she couldn't have killed herself, either . Facts are facts . And suicide isnt usually an impulsive thing, the suicidal person usually thinks about it for a while & will give out gifts and such beforehand.
@@Myplop I tend to agree with that. The drug enema theory. Explains the maid washing bed sheets and why no pills in her stomach. No Kennedy murdered her. But they did want to cover up their close association with her. That was the Kennedy cover up. And people went crazy with theories once they learned Bobby had been there that day. Most likely scenario but it sells more books to go crazy with outlandish stories. Just listen to how many people claimed to have been there or talked to her that night. Or claimed to have a friendship with her. It's the ones making money or trying to gain notoriety who kept it going.
This video piece is an excellent "gem," thanks for uploading, from reading some of the comments, the most devout Monroe fans have to accept the fact that some directors, simply didn't like working with her, having to deal with her constant emotional "baggage," with respect, get over it already. Th host of this "CBS" program, provided excellent coverage a year later, on the day of the Kennedy assissination.
she had plenty of emotional baggage, that's not a ciriticism of her, now like I've said get over it, sad also, that so many of her "adoring fans" are now into idol worship.
with regard to Monroe's "tardiness" on the movie set, there is ample proof from her last uncompleted film "Somethings Got To Give" there are time sheets that show her being chronically late, there is no conspiracy against her, the evidence is there, get over it already as for her estate, that was hardly impressive, she didn't provide one cent to the woman she elected to be her mother's guardian, the facts speak for themselves.
+Greg Rak After MGM fired Marilyn, within weeks they rehired her for a million dollars. Had she lived to complete the film, her estate would have impressed many. She provided no caretaking to the mother who had abandoned her as a child, never role modeled caretaking for Marilyn.
+Greg Rak No conspiracy by the film makers. But even costar Dean Martin said, replace Marilyn and he quits. Unlike most timely timecard punchers, she had the star quality that alone would sell the picture. Apres Marilyn, Doris Day replaced her--only in the sense that per her m.o., she showed up on time and hit all her marks.
I think that was cruel to create Misfits...seems like Miller was hoping to push her over the edge! But she held on & the movie Something’s Gotta Give would’ve been SUPER with Marilyn & Dean Martin! The part that was filmed is on YT! It’s GREAT! I so wished she & Dean had gotten to finish it! Dean said he’d wait as long as Marilyn needed! He didn’t want her replaced! There was talk that she might be able to finish the movie according to a friend with whom she’d had a conversation! And I highly doubt she would’ve abandoned Joe DiMaggio, Jr., as they talked that night at 8:30pm by his admission & he could confide in her. She knew he & his dad weren’t as close as they should’ve been & no way would she have abandoned him! She knew all too well what that was like. ♥️🌹🌿
Why did it happen to her? (oh the irony) Let's see....because she was beautiful for one, a trusting good spirited girl who believed in everyone, two - men in general are always selfish and have the lusting animal instinct! It is all about any (man) for himself always and whatever "he" can get out from any woman! DiMaggio (he beat her up), Miller (used her for her fame to defend himself from being accused for being a communist), Sinatra and his cronies (used her for his corrupt dealings), Kennedy (used her for her sex appeal), her first husband (used her to cook and keep his house). The only man who was sincere and felt sorry for her ever was Dean Martin and he was also a flawed man! All men ever do throughout centuries is use women until they no longer serve their purposes. When do they really care for someone truly? Really!
Well...in the end...she got to take all the love of all of us who loved her & I’m sure wherever her soul is, she keeps receiving it as she ever has more fans who love her! ♥️🌹🌿
They split up because Joe beat her twice and she could not handle the abuse. He wanted her to stay home and quit acting and she was not going to do that. Joe and Miller were not good for her at all. The only good thing about Joe is he gave her a good funeral out of respect for her.
@@careyleroux3784 There were a lot of good things about Joe other than he couldn't control his temper. Which is a big thing and she was wise to see it but you cannot discount how he gave her money for the down payment on her home. He literally rescued her from the psych hospital she was locked up in. He did try to give her family stability. He loved Norma but she was Marilyn Monroe. It drove him mad BC he loved her. No one in Hollywood claimed her body. Or paid for her funeral. Joe did and without hesitation.
The 3 men who last saw her alive BOBBY KENNEDY HIS BROTHER INLAW AND HER OWN HEAD DOCTOR ON THERE 2ND ATTEMPT THEY CAME BACK AND TOLD THE HOUSE KEEPER AND HER SON THE GROUNDS MAN EXC.. TO GO FOR A RUN AND TAKE HOURS BUT THIS TIME THEY GOT BACK IN 30 MINS THEY KNEW INSIDE THOSE 3 WERE UO TO KNOW GOOD. THE 1ST TIME THEY SHOWED UP EARLY THAT DAY SHE SHOULD HAVE SPLIT. WASNT TO MUCH ABOUT THE DAIRY BUT THAT BOBBY WAS DEAD WORRIED ABOUT BEING IMPLICATED IN MUCH. SO WHEN THE MAID AND SON CAME BACK SHE WAS NEAR DEATH SO FAR DRUGED UP THAT IT WOULD HAVE TAKEN A MIRICLE TO PULL HER OUT OF IT... NOW IF THEY HAD CSI THEN IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A NI BRAINER. NO PILLS FOUND IN HER MOUTH NOR THE PATH TO HER STOMACH BUT THERE WAS LEATHAL DOSE IN HER BLOOD AND STOMACH. SO WE NOW KNOW THAT THREW THIS ENEMA SHE WAS SERIOUSLY DOPED UP SO HARD AND THESE 3 FOOLS HAD ACCESS TO THIS FORM OF DRUGS AND HOW TO ADMINISTER THEM. TO KNOCK HER OUT UNCINSIOUS THEY HAD TO HAVE HELD HER TO GIVE HER THE INJECTION UNDER HER ARM PIT TO PUT HER UNDER TO CONTINUE THE REST THEY HAD THE TIME. SHE WAS FRANTIC THE FIRST TIME THEY WHERE THERE SHE RAN THEM OUT BY YELLING AND DOIN WHAT SHE HAD TO..SHE CALLED HER FRIEND TO HELP HER WITH SLEEPING PILLS TO CALM HER DOWN. I ONLY WISH SHE WOULD HAVE GINE TO HER INSTEAD AND TAKEN HER OUTTA THERE .. BUT DIDNT HAPPEN. THE 2ND TIME THEY DID WHAT THEY CAME TO DO.. PPL PLACE ALL THREE THERE EVEN A POLICE PULLED THEM OVER ONCE THEY LEFT THE AREA AND HE NOTICE BOBBY RUGHT AWAY. SO HAD TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE A SUICIDE WHERE THEY FOUND HER NUDE WAS NOT THE PLACE OF THE SCUFFLE..NO NOTE ..AND OTHER FACTORS .. SHE HAD PLANS OF DOIN BIG THINGS THAT COMING WEEK. BY NOW SHE HAD A GRIP ON THINGS AND WAS FINALLY STANDING UP TO THESE ABUSERS ..THOSE CASTING COUCH BASTERDS FAT DIRTY OLD MEN ALL HAD UGLY PART IN WHAT THEY DONE TO THIS POOR GIRL.. EVERY DOG HAS ITS DAY..ALL THIS INFO HAS BEEN KNOWN FOR SOME TIME . SEARCH IT YOU WILL FIND IT.. I DONT BELIEVE SHE DID THIS TO HERSELF...MAYBE BACK WHEN ...BUT SHE GOT TOUGH AT THE END TIRED OF THESE. PPL ..
All you said was true may the rot in hell!!! I feel so bad for Marilyn she was misunderstood for all her life and even in death their still making her look bad!
But did they have her best interests at heart? Her first and second husband did but not her third, her housekeeper was suspicious, her psychiatrist, her friends lee and Paula strasbourg. Her second husband Joe adored and protected her
Marlon B tried to earn her about Strasber having too much of a good in her. Hi opinion was that a coach is supposed to coach and then leave you to it, not control everything about your life.
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When we see people thru a different lense we can easily be tempted to think or we can judge them by their appearance discretion decoram Virtue and Integrity are traits that are I believe passed down from 1 generation of women and men to another generation the lie is that many women and men believe a lie this is who you are this is the person you've become and that's not true if only someone would have spoken the right words to encourage her in her talents and gifts
The demolition was stopped. On June 26, 2024 the Los Angeles city council voted to make Marilyn Monroe's home a Historic-Cultural Monument. I was there at City Hall in LA when the vote took place.
@@LindseyDisney That's great news.
If anyone out there is looking for an incredibly intelligent, poetic, dignified answer to help explain Norma Jean's tragic life, you need only listen to Clifford Odet's interview toward the end of this video (19:22). This man knew her, loved her, and obviously respected her. What a beautiful and honest tribute.
He is very intelligent!
C. E., I hope you see my reply even 3 years after your comment. You said it perfectly: Clifford Odets' tribute to Marilyn was profoundly insightful, articulate, compassionate, loving, and respectful. If only Marilyn could have had such loving friends from the beginning and throughout her life, all might have been well.
Well said.
@@fredericmartin7148 thank you ❤️🩹
@@noracharles9366 Thank you, Nora.
Wow, Only 5 days after her death, they already knew she was going to be a legend ,
she was already a legend
She was pretty successful by the time she married Joe dimaggio and a legend too
Taking roses to her today. Keep a good thought for Marilyn.
Clifford Odets clearly respected Marilyn, and his assessment of her nature and legacy was absolutely spot on I felt.
That she was sensitive, intuitive and idealistic and not cynical. So true.
Marilyn Monroe will be remembered , always!
Marlene Lira, Yes, is a legend and loved earnestly.
Thank you for sharing, to all her
Fans. We do love her, fighting for acceptance. It was
Late in life to receive the love
She needed.
Honey, MM,NJB, the rude, selfish people used you, studios, Men, some women. You stood up and faced it all.
Never lied about
Anything, honest and I believe you
Were wonderful.
Kim Novak said it all!!
Most people just
Take, take care if their desires. Dad
Hi again, lovely lady.
THINK OF YOU OFTEN
amazing how much more down to earth the media and people in general were back then.
Norma seemed to have deep abandonment issues stemming from being neglected as well as not being nurtured during her formative years. From having her personal boundaries violated starting in early childhood she had painful insecurities. Add to the mix, having to deal with so many sexual predators in the profession she was in, it's miraculous that she lived past the age of 25 without completely losing her mind.
+ Brenda I can totally relate to that. I feel abandonment intensely due to my own parents leaving me alone a lot in hotel motel rooms
Shannyn Tyler I'm sorry that happened to you. Having healed from the abandonment issues I had, life is easier, now.
Brenda: Agree. Spot on..... Abandonment in her childhood, left deep emotional scars on this beautiful soul... Such a complete Pity. Add to that fact, she was used by Hollywood and so many selfish men. RIP...Norma Jean!
Well expressed,thank you.
There’s a feeling that the legend is spreading.. wow.. the truest words spoken.. she’s still a ⭐️ star ...a big beautiful star.
I agree whit you
Cover Girl: Yes ...spot on prophetic words, so soon after her passing....
Clifford Odette's comments are very astute about Marilyn. I think he very much knew her life and troubles.
I read my first book about Marilyn when I was 14 and have been fascinated by her ever since. This is the best, most substantative and insightful piece about MM that I have yet heard (commentary by Clifford Odets and Jean Negulesco in particular). Not surprising since it's hosted by the broadcast legend Charles Collingswood. Thank you for the posting.
whatever your reason may be...i still love u marilyn! no one could evr take your place.
George Cukor's sadistic laugh on Marilyn is dispicable. I bet movie directors have been cruel and abusive towards Marilyn :-(
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I heard it said that he hated her.
He kept doing take after take. Always trying to humiliate her. Worse director ever.
The fact that George Cukor was one of a number of men who don’t respect women or even despise women is unsurprising given how misogynistic the Hollywood system is. She was desired by men; they constantly underestimated her mind; her genius at comic acting. Thank heavens she made the films she did. He certainly became famous because of her genius at acting.
This is a TREASURE. Thanks for sharing!
She was unique
This was incredible! Thank you so much! I love that this broadcast was so close to her death because there was a true recollection of who she was and what she was like. Unlike today when it’s been talked about so much and possibly changed. Also all the people that truly knew her are now deceased. It’s great to hear from some of those people. Amazing. I loved it. 💋
Yes, he said a few weeks after her death because he didn't say her life has been, it was her life was
I hate watching the footage of her with Arthur Miller. Except for pecking her in a kiss, he doesn't touch her, barely looks at her. He left her, blaming her for her insatiable needs. Looks to me like he wasn't able to provide the most basic human need: affection.
He was gay
Jackie S me too!
Jackie S It is clear to me also that he didn't feel anything for her. You can see in this video when she kisses him he doesn't reciprocate the kiss he pretty much rejects it. It just makes me so sad because what she wanted more than anything else was to be loved. Arthur Miller was clearly very talented but he was also cold, hard, and unfeeling.
@@kiranolan7104 Yes, terribly sad - she was desperate 4 luv, real luv, all her life. But all the guys she picked betrayed her. Miller was vile - she deserved far better!
He was probably a homosexual! Or at least bi sexual !!
Interesting what millers friend said at the end was pure prophesy.
So very happy to have finally seen this program having heard so much about it. I realize that it being filmed so soon after Marilyn's death left those interviewed only with the assumption of suicide. I do appreciate the kind words from so many and especially to hear Clifford Odets obvious loving and caring words. Not thrilled with Cukor but I am sure it is because of my knowledge of what he said long after this interview.
Thank you again my friend for sharing another rare piece on Marilyn.
"She was well-behaved, thought she was happy, maybe she was an actress already"
At an early age, she knew the real world isn't where she wanted to live in, so she acted and lived in her own world to survive. Oh, little girl. :'(
Marilyn lived a heroic life. Every time she had to perform her demons came up.and.had to be defeated. she had the guts to pursue her dreams. and she lived the american dream despite her awful.childhood.
Wow! Thankyou so much for sharing your fascinating Marilyn collection with us. I have never seen this! Hugely thought provoking documentary. Excellent stuff x
I like Clifford Odette's view on her starting at #19:28, a deep thinker he is. At the end what he says he is so right.
Kim Novak's comment about "you're just a piece of meat"..WOW. No wonder MM was so miserable.
I kind of get annoyed when everyone constantly portrays her as a victim. She wasn't a victim ( only as far as people using and abusing her star status was concerned) What people fail to see is that she was also amazingly courageous and strong. To have endured most of what a lot of the people around her dished out and not quit her while acting career shows tenacity and the ability to spring back. She was a survivor for the most part. It was the people ( or should I say the users) and the doctors who really were I'll equipped to deal with the sort of issues Marilyn had ( bipolar being one and a severe insomnia problem) She literally needed pills to help her to sleep every night. And the doctors willy nilly dolling them out to her. That's what killed her she would have survived I believe if she'd had the right supportive people around her who knew what they were dealing with in the first place.
Shannyn Tyler Marilyn was murdered. period. for insurance money for the studio.
Shannyn Tyler I firmly believe that she had PTSD, which gave her all sorts of problems with sleeping. I have PTSD, from 15yrs of being molested by my stepdad and I also take sleeping pills to fall asleep, stay asleep and fight the flashbacks. Considering she had severe trauma in her childhood as well, it makes sense why she depended on them and often took more than prescribed.
@@sallybenardello6533 *I think a lot of people need to do more & better research!!!! Stop listening to people that think they knew her... Look at her letters days before!!!! She was excited to start a new chapter in her life! & Yes they kinda down played that insurance money part!!! The doc with the cigar that said she overdosed, dodged the question!!*
BlueEyed _Scorpio Norma Jean Baker was ABSOLUTELY MURDERED. What faction of high power was responsible for the killing AND the cover up is the question that will NEVER be permitted an answer. I personally believe (from TONS of research!!!) that ALL factions were asked permission ahead of time, regarding The Hit, just like the mafia does. Marilyn stepped on so many toes because she was smart and had so many bigshots by The Bxxls; so she thought; so that she could run and control everything and get her own way. Hard to know which faction had more reason, since ALL factions were being squeezed hard by Marilyn. You live by the sword, you die by the sword. Marilyn was no victim. She was playing a very dangerous game and she knew that. And she was very happy and very arrogant her last days because she thought she had ALL THE BIGSHOT'S bxxls in the ringer and that she had won the war. Little did she know that she left ALL OF THEM no choice but extermination. I dont think assasination EVER crossed her mind because I think she believed her fame protected her from that retaliation. Marilyn was no innocent victim all the way back to her youth. She was a manipulator and user from puberty onward that we know of. Maybe even younger, perhaps born with that personality (her mother had it) Narcissism!! destroys all around them and every now and then the narcissist gets payback even though it is rare.
@@sallybenardello6533 😂🤣😂🤣🤣😂🤣🤣
Arthur Miller seemed cold and distant... At least Joe DiMaggio showed her affection
Joe watched too much television, he and Marilyn weren't very well suited.
Joe beat Marilyn . . . very controlling. That's why she left him.
She was treated like a piece of meat. There were obviously many contributing factors that led to her taking her final breath. At least now she is resting in peace away from all the hurt and suffering she endured throughout her brief life.
Clifford Odet sure prophesied correctly. The cult of Marilyn grew to enormous proportions. If we could have, we'd have brought her back to life. The star we couldn't afford to lose.
This was a "special edition" of the weekly CBS News documentary series "EYEWITNESS", which aired on Friday nights at 10:30pm(et), right after "THE TWILIGHT ZONE".
I really resent George Cukor in this video with his phony praise of Marilyn Monroe - his actions at the time of Marilyn's firing from the movie "Something's Got to Give" in 1962, shortly before her death, showed how much he really hated her when he insisted to 20th Century Fox Studios that she be fired because of her attitude while working on the film, because of her unnecessary tardiness (Marilyn was very ill at the time from a sinus infection) and also he made her look like a complete flake even though she was really physically sick at the time. Fox did fire Marilyn and they also shut the picture down but when Dean Martin said he wouldn't do the movie if Marilyn wasn't in it, Fox changed their minds and hired Marilyn Monroe back and was going to replace George Cukor with director John Negulesco. Unfortunately, Marilyn died 3 or 4 days after she was resigned to do the movie. If anyone watches the filming of "Something's Got to Give" here on youtube.com, they will see that Marilyn Monroe was not unprofessional, she was not hard to get along with on the set - she was kind to everyone! George Cukor and 20th Century Fox fired Marilyn because she was ill and they didn't care about that - they were only concerned in using her for making more money!
The death of MM scared Kim Novak. She was wise to listen, follow her instincts and to ultimately choose a different path.
Great interview with Kim Novak. Glad you commented on it.
"Hollywood created her," said George Cukor. Only the "her" that was created was not a real woman. Marilyn knew this in her soul, and feared she was nothing except that image. She fought against that a long time... when she wanted desperately to play a serious role, as the prostitute Sasha in "Crime and Punishment," she was denied the opportunity to act seriously. Lee Strasburg used her to boost his acting school, but was among those who denigrated her. R.I.P., Marilyn. It took a new generation to appreciate you as an actress and as a person in your own right.
I agree. although she did achieve alot of her goals and she garnered many awards for Prince and The Showgirl internationally. Her performance in Bus Stop was also highly praised while she was alive and she had plans to do theatre prior to her death.
Jackie S i have never heard a Strasberg talk bad about MM. you dumb ass she put them in charge of her estate in her will!!!
Truman Capote wanted Marilyn to play Holly Golightly in Breakfast at Tiffany's. What a different movie THAT would have been.
I
whitepeacock MM is Exactly who should have played THAT part.
Clifford Odet, god bless his soul, died one year later, due to cancer. Rest in peace.
It's astounding to hear Clifford Odets compare Marilyn to a show pony, or George Cukor refer to MM as a dignified creature. Both would consider themselves sympathisers but the underlying misogyny is palpable.
Julius Maloney I agree. George Cukor made me feel sick here.
They didn't have #MeToo then. Maybe if they had, she would've not been so miserable
Julius Maloney it’s disgusting. A show pony? She knew that’s how they viewed her, and she fought til her last day to escape that caricature.
I wouldn’t take the “creature” and “show pony” pronouns too literally. We’re all creatures, so there is no devaluation in being referred to as one. It’s simply not a word often used today to describe people. And Odets did not refer to Marilyn as a show pony directly, only in abstract. Learn to read between the lines people.
Clifford Odets clearly had respect for Marilyn, and I felt his assessment of her nature and legacy was absolutely spot on.
@@mr.butterworth completely agree with you. Odets is even poetic in his description of Marilyn. Some have never learned how to listen carefully.
The studios and directors no names mentioned 'George Cukor' made life difficult for her, when she was already an actress at the top of her tree and others even said she bought her own unique qualities to the roles that other stars didn't. So I guess I'm trying to say Marilyn was strong and got through her childhood. Only to find bigger bullies out there in the world of film.
Aren't you so right. Bullies everywhere. One worse than the last. 🐂
She didn't like Cukor one bit and part of her contract for resigning on to something's got to give was to have a new director. If you set the filming of the behind the scenes, cukor was mean, rough, not caring.. he even did it to the young boy's on set and marilyn would talk with them and tell them they were doing a good job and say other sweet things to them.
Cukor was one of the directors she approved of after starting her own production company.
What a very profound way to explain the enigma and mystery of a Marilyn Monroe from Clifford Odets. He seemed to have understood her and he was just a friend. "A dark companion of a bright, shining star. If only she had that cynicism, but she didnt have that. Instead she was sensitive, intuitive and that was how she was. "
She always longed for true love and the one I guess....
Clifford Odet's commentary should be better known. Gave me chills in its depth and truth. "The legend is already spreading." You can feel it. Amazing.
Yes, very right! I appreciate his words, so much!
Odet's was the only sensible and sensitive remarks. Cukor came across as creepy with the excessive licking his lips. Everyone who knows Marilyn's story knows he hated her and had no sympathy for her struggles.
Wow! What a fascinating programme. I was clued from the start. Yes agreed Norma's childhood had impacts on her thoughts and feelings, but I also can't help thinking it was'nt solely to blame....
WoW! I never saw this one before. Thank you for uploading.
What a breathtaking essence she possessed! She brought great joy, also great heartbreak when her flame was extinguished from her.
great documental and very rare too....thanks for uploading...i ve never seen before.-
Odetts’ analysis of her chronic lateness was astute. Although she desperately wanted to be a star, on some level she resented the demands that required her to perform like a trained circus pony, and to always look perfect. This ambivalence is understandable given her childhood of not being loved for who she naturally was. She had to transform herself into a perfect goddess in order to be a star. People who endure a childhood of deprivation, rejection and neglect are understandably triggered by adult circumstances that demand they be a certain way in order to be successful (loved). In short, being late is often an unconscious - passive aggressive - way of acting out.
As Marilyn’s first modeling agent recalled, she resisted their demands to change her natural appearance. Those instincts - to be accepted for herself - were actually very healthy. Ultimately, she gave in and agreed, radically transforming herself, surgically altering her face, straightening her wavy, brown hair, dying it platinum blonde. One wonders if her life might have had a happier ending if she had stuck to her instincts and not allowed the system to mold her into a “doll.” The agent even used that word in this interview. Marilyn likely wouldn’t have achieved superstardom if she had kept her natural, girl next door appearance instead of becoming a goddess caricature, but she might have gained something better. Perhaps she would have found happiness with her male counterpart - a nice boy next door like Jim, the one she divorced. We’ll never know for sure but as a rule all that glitters isn’t gold, and diamonds most certainly aren’t a girl’s best friend.
I like your assessment, very well written.
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Thank you.
In her autobiography she explained how when she was an orphan she had was the 8th person to take a bath out of the same water so that when she made it she liked to take long baths and empty the water and then fill it back up again and put perfumes and oils in the water every time she filled the tub back up and that was why she was so late all the time.
Wonderful piece for it's day, and yet we are still grappling with the same questions, and if possible, the same intensity and hurt emotions. We have so much more knowledge now about her life, especially those last month's, but she is still lost to us - forever. Marilyn's main problem was she was utterly alone, and because of her childhood that void could never, would never be filled. If she had carried a child to term, it's possible she might have found that which alluded her, love and happiness. Of course this film, done within days of her death was still full of things we now know were lies. Yes, she was fired, but that did not contribute to her death, despite Peter Lawfords lies. She was rehired, and that had been in the press prior to her death about the negotiations.
very interesting piece, thanks for uploading
This is great thanks for posting.
She had a pain we both share, not of fame but of feeling unlovable at times, deep insecurity and lack of understanding who we are!
As someone who was adopted I can empathize with wanting to earn love. And wanting to be perfect
Thanx for this rare footage! The reason for the “dislike” was for the News footage & agency who produced this special. I feel like they again ( media) used Marilyn for a boost in ratings. It made me mad- Norma Jean was more than just an “2-bit actress “ She was smart , witty ,genuine & loving person. That just got caught up in the wrong bad side of Hollywood fame & fortune . I’m sure she just wanted to be accepted & loved like anyone else. I feel like she got used by the “System” . Hollywood “created” Marilyn Monroe & destroyed Norma Jean. I supposed that’s the price you pay for fame & fortune. 💔🥲RIP Norma Jean 😇
Beautiful inside as well emphatic kind a beautiful women..
I love to see those old images. I have a crazy story with her, and to watch her so alive makes me happy. Thank you, Marilyn!
Classic, honest, interview, it was way back then before social media, technology, internet
She was a perfectionist. Left a beautiful legacy!
It happened because the people that were suppose to protect her, didn't even see how much her spirit cried out. They all ignored the symptoms of depression and more.. Where is Marilyn's little red book she always wrote in is the question.
M. M. Was medically mis'manged. Giving barbiturates and she drinking alcohol , will aggravate any depressive disorder she might have had. But this was 1962---these were days of psychoanalysis and no optimal pharmacological therapy known/prescribed/or practised in those days of 1962. Since 1962, we know a lot how to manage such psych cases.
You still don't know a hoot lol
Eyewitness - Marilyn Monroe: Why? VERY RARE! 1962 television special
ua-cam.com/users/SGTG77 This television show aired on August 10th 1962 only 5 days after Marilyn's death
A wonderful interview. Things I haven’t heard before
She was the first mk ultra actress and it never stopped mk is hollywood
I watched alot of your videos and respect your work dod you ever do a video on her?
Mary 40 it's sad, she grew up without a mother & a father so she was alone. I feel so sorry for her.
What is mk Ultra?? Please. NM.
Nancy Markiewick The CIA mind control program that they now use on all young actors and musicians nowadays so they don't get out of control.--- Probably because MM became such a big problem once they created her and promoted her to stardom and her brand of MM. Then she thought she (MM) should run the show instead of the producers and backers and investors. She forgot she was just Norma Jean Baker who never finished high school and should have been grateful that they gave her the opportunity to play the full time part of MM. She was NOT an MK ultra victim or they could have controlled her completely and she would still be alive today.
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continuing on, I feel the bigger impact on her life, pressure wise, came from the studios Fox, as I feel the studios and that whole system contributed more towards her difficulties in settling. As they always seemed to bring her down. All the more proven from other stars encounters at studios too and all the terrible comments and put downs.
“Squint, Peep,Take a Peep.” 😂 She had such a cute sense of humor. 💖
When she is playful, you just naturally laugh with her!
Yes, Marilyn was a Gemini born during The Year of The Tiger.
He used her as candy on his arm, he wrote 'the misfits' for her. Sadly she read some of his notes about her, they were not flattering, they were devastating.
A really well done documentary. A different era with thoughtful analysis. There is some of that now, but this has an interesting historical feeling.
I will love Marilyn Monroe till my death, and I am 28 today.
I love her beauty, her acting, her intelligence, her laugh and her famous quotes. She was a bright star gone to soon. But Marilyn Monroe will never stop shining.
She will forever be remembered in our hearts. I really hope i will meet this magnificant angel in heaven when my time comes, RIP MM fly high up in the sky, Amen 🕊🤍🕯
She didn't interrupt their honeymoon. The army guy did, he was on their plane and told her she was going to entertain the troops in Korea... She tried to decline Joe tried to decline. They wouldn't take no for an answer.
When she got there she said they had many signs and banners with her name on it.
Also, there were many people posing as directors that tried to tape her. Also zanuck and other actual big people in the business tried to tape her. (R word = tape) .
Sanders wanted to marry her. Her makeup artist Johnny wanted to marry her. She said no to both. Johnny told her she would be set as he was dying but she wouldn't do it. Sanders married zsa zsa gabor and zsazsa was so very much jealous of her and hated mm.
No wonder she was uncertain and shy: She was told she wasn’t enough all of her life. Her dad didn’t stand by her side, her mom left her for a man, she had to change her look, her name and she was divorced several times - which were setbacks again. Then she worked in a competitive business in which there was jealousy and the most powerful man of the United States treated her like a whore. So did the most powerful man in intellectualism and the most powerful man in sports - her ex husbands. Instead of protecting her - they told her she wasn’t enough. No wonder she got depressions. And killed herself.
She babysat my cousins when we were little.
Yeah, she babysat everyone's cousin.
I was 4yrs old when she pass into sleep she'll be back again in resurrection of all mankind
In my eyes MM was a glamour doll in her soul she longed for knowledge exception love and family
I believe I will see my Nicole and my friends and all that died to soon that's my
hope that's what keeps me together also MM MJ JL P FM WH also all the other greats armen
The dark companion that always followed her is called foster care! Not with her real parents! That's why she had no self esteem and that's why she died.
She was very pretty before the Hollywood transformation and always had a stunning figure, but the physical changes they made were dramatic - straightening and dying her hair, plastic surgery. If you put the before and after photos side by side, the metamorphosis was monumental. I wonder if she ever missed her original appearance.
She did all that on her own. She straightened and lightened her hair early on, during her modeling career, and had her teeth straightened and a little cosmetic surgery done on her nose and chin before she was signed a second time by Twentieth Century-Fox. She was a master of makeup also; she and her makeup man, Whitey Snyder, together worked out the makeup formula that became synomous with Marilyn Monroe. Her studio had very little input in her image compared to its manufacturing of other stars. It was Howard Hawks, the director of Gentlemen Prefer Blondes, who in a sense added the finishing touches to "Marilyn Monroe" by casting her in the "dumb blonde" part that she couldn't shake afterward and by subtly tweaking her appearance -- sort of streamlining it, so to speak. She was a great student of her own features and of the camera and she modified her features with the camera in mind, and I've never read or heard that she regretted it, though she was well aware that Marilyn Monroe was a persona about which she torn, since it both made and limited her, though she had name changed legally to Marilyn Monroe, which I think says a great deal.
Thank you for posting this.
Marilyn Monroe...Monroe was another surname on Norma Jean's mother's side and Marilyn came from the broadway musical star Marilyn Miller....(1893-1936) Lyon said Norma Jean reminded him of her. Other names that were tossed around were... Clare Norman, Meredith and Carol Lind.
She said she didn't like "Marilyn" and wished she had insisted on being called Jean (or Jeane) Monroe when she and Ben Lyon discussed changing her name.
Marilyn was her grandmother's name and Monroe was her mother's maiden name (I believe James Dougherty mentioned this in an interview)😊
Read Marilyn's autobiography, and importantly, read the book written by close friend at the time of her death, titled, JEANNE CARMEN. Great read. It was no suicide. It was murder. You can see interviews with Jeanne Carmen on youtube. Marilyn Monroe was a brilliant, beautiful, uniquely talented actress- and also highly intelligent. Often was described by friends as sweet, shy, loyal, a hard worker . . . There has been only one Marilyn Monroe.
I sure like the old style of cement outside the theater...more than the factory look they have now.
fascinating this was just 5 days after her suicide, i think most of the comments are pretty accurate, what they didn't know was bobby kennedy had just broke it off with her that day, and marilyn was obviously very distraught, and i'm sure she was told not to make any comments about their affair, marilyn was a bit naïve in that sense, thinking a relationship like that could work.
the thing about suicide is that killing yourself is an impulsive act, you lose a great job, someone you love leaves you, you're financially ruined... and the first few hours are the worse, the fears, the worries, the hurt, the despair, it's all very intense in the beginning and this is when most people commit suicide, if they can be helped thru a tough time like this the desire to end it all begins to fade, not always, but generally speaking.
marilyn was very alone and didn't really have a confidant like that, and the people she did call that night didn't take her threats seriously, something else we've learned about suicide is if you're talking about it, it should be taken very seriously, peter lawford callously told her not to leave a note, she had asked her neighbor jeanne crawford in a "distressed" state to "please come over", crawford said she couldn't come over, she had also called her psychiatrist. finally lawford 2nd guessed his flippant attitude and decided to check up on her... it was too late. but he did destroy her suicide note according to lawford's 3rd wife deborah gould.
you are such a bigot
Marilyn didnt kill herself, there is plenty of evidence to prove she didnt . And scientifically she couldn't have killed herself, either . Facts are facts . And suicide isnt usually an impulsive thing, the suicidal person usually thinks about it for a while & will give out gifts and such beforehand.
Accidental overdose, she’d come close dozens of times before
@@Myplop I tend to agree with that. The drug enema theory. Explains the maid washing bed sheets and why no pills in her stomach. No Kennedy murdered her. But they did want to cover up their close association with her. That was the Kennedy cover up. And people went crazy with theories once they learned Bobby had been there that day. Most likely scenario but it sells more books to go crazy with outlandish stories. Just listen to how many people claimed to have been there or talked to her that night. Or claimed to have a friendship with her. It's the ones making money or trying to gain notoriety who kept it going.
She was MURDERED SHE DID NOT COMMIT SUICIDE
This video piece is an excellent "gem," thanks for uploading, from reading some of the comments, the most devout Monroe fans have to accept the fact that some directors, simply didn't like working with her, having to deal with her constant emotional "baggage," with respect, get over it already. Th host of this "CBS" program, provided excellent coverage a year later, on the day of the Kennedy assissination.
she had plenty of emotional baggage, that's not a ciriticism of her, now like I've said get over it, sad also, that so many of her "adoring fans" are now into idol worship.
with regard to Monroe's "tardiness" on the movie set, there is ample proof from her last uncompleted film "Somethings Got To Give" there are time sheets that show her being chronically late, there is no conspiracy against her, the evidence is there, get over it already as for her estate, that was hardly impressive, she didn't provide one cent to the woman she elected to be her mother's guardian, the facts speak for themselves.
+Greg Rak After MGM fired Marilyn, within weeks they rehired her for a million dollars. Had she lived to complete the film, her estate would have impressed many. She provided no caretaking to the mother who had abandoned her as a child, never role modeled caretaking for Marilyn.
+Greg Rak No conspiracy by the film makers. But even costar Dean Martin said, replace Marilyn and he quits. Unlike most timely timecard punchers, she had the star quality that alone would sell the picture. Apres Marilyn, Doris Day replaced her--only in the sense that per her m.o., she showed up on time and hit all her marks.
I think that was cruel to create Misfits...seems like Miller was hoping to push her over the edge! But she held on & the movie Something’s Gotta Give would’ve been SUPER with Marilyn & Dean Martin! The part that was filmed is on YT! It’s GREAT! I so wished she & Dean had gotten to finish it! Dean said he’d wait as long as Marilyn needed! He didn’t want her replaced! There was talk that she might be able to finish the movie according to a friend with whom she’d had a conversation! And I highly doubt she would’ve abandoned Joe DiMaggio, Jr., as they talked that night at 8:30pm by his admission & he could confide in her. She knew he & his dad weren’t as close as they should’ve been & no way would she have abandoned him! She knew all too well what that was like. ♥️🌹🌿
Kennedy boys treated her like a POA, but I would say Karma always catches up to you when you don't expect it. Awm
The legend statement is indeed true. I’m utterly enchanted
Norma jean........used....abused.......snuffed out........."Candle in Wind"
Fascinating. Wonderful people being interviewed. I loved How to Marry a Millionaire. I liked it better than Some Like It Hot.
If Marilyn hadn't been in HTMAM, it wouldn't even be watched or remembered today.
She only found love in all the people who didn’t know her. Sad. Such a sweetie. ❤️❤️❤️
She was a treasure and you don't know what you have until you lose it and we lost marilyn
Clifford Oders is so articulate, and then accurately predicted the great adulation that Marilyn has received for generations since.
She could act.
Kim Novak seems like a kind person.
Why did it happen to her? (oh the irony) Let's see....because she was beautiful for one, a trusting good spirited girl who believed in everyone, two - men in general are always selfish and have the lusting animal instinct! It is all about any (man) for himself always and whatever "he" can get out from any woman! DiMaggio (he beat her up), Miller (used her for her fame to defend himself from being accused for being a communist), Sinatra and his cronies (used her for his corrupt dealings), Kennedy (used her for her sex appeal), her first husband (used her to cook and keep his house). The only man who was sincere and felt sorry for her ever was Dean Martin and he was also a flawed man! All men ever do throughout centuries is use women until they no longer serve their purposes. When do they really care for someone truly? Really!
Well...in the end...she got to take all the love of all of us who loved her & I’m sure wherever her soul is, she keeps receiving it as she ever has more fans who love her! ♥️🌹🌿
it boils my blood that it wasn't till right after her death that these ppl decided she deserved more out of life and the industry.
I feel that is MM and Joe managed to remarry, she prolly wouldn't have died...
They split up because Joe beat her twice and she could not handle the abuse. He wanted her to stay home and quit acting and she was not going to do that. Joe and Miller were not good for her at all. The only good thing about Joe is he gave her a good funeral out of respect for her.
@@careyleroux3784 There were a lot of good things about Joe other than he couldn't control his temper. Which is a big thing and she was wise to see it but you cannot discount how he gave her money for the down payment on her home. He literally rescued her from the psych hospital she was locked up in. He did try to give her family stability. He loved Norma but she was Marilyn Monroe. It drove him mad BC he loved her. No one in Hollywood claimed her body. Or paid for her funeral. Joe did and without hesitation.
8:54- 9:09 I've never seen that footage before. Is that someone laughing!?
I noticed that too. Sounds mean doesn’t it?
@@jacquelinejanz8466 yeah when she said she wanted to keep her private life private
The 3 men who last saw her alive BOBBY KENNEDY HIS BROTHER INLAW AND HER OWN HEAD DOCTOR ON THERE 2ND ATTEMPT THEY CAME BACK AND TOLD THE HOUSE KEEPER AND HER SON THE GROUNDS MAN EXC.. TO GO FOR A RUN AND TAKE HOURS BUT THIS TIME THEY GOT BACK IN 30 MINS THEY KNEW INSIDE THOSE 3 WERE UO TO KNOW GOOD. THE 1ST TIME THEY SHOWED UP EARLY THAT DAY SHE SHOULD HAVE SPLIT. WASNT TO MUCH ABOUT THE DAIRY BUT THAT BOBBY WAS DEAD WORRIED ABOUT BEING IMPLICATED IN MUCH. SO WHEN THE MAID AND SON CAME BACK SHE WAS NEAR DEATH SO FAR DRUGED UP THAT IT WOULD HAVE TAKEN A MIRICLE TO PULL HER OUT OF IT... NOW IF THEY HAD CSI THEN IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A NI BRAINER. NO PILLS FOUND IN HER MOUTH NOR THE PATH TO HER STOMACH BUT THERE WAS LEATHAL DOSE IN HER BLOOD AND STOMACH. SO WE NOW KNOW THAT THREW THIS ENEMA SHE WAS SERIOUSLY DOPED UP SO HARD AND THESE 3 FOOLS HAD ACCESS TO THIS FORM OF DRUGS AND HOW TO ADMINISTER THEM. TO KNOCK HER OUT UNCINSIOUS THEY HAD TO HAVE HELD HER TO GIVE HER THE INJECTION UNDER HER ARM PIT TO PUT HER UNDER TO CONTINUE THE REST THEY HAD THE TIME. SHE WAS FRANTIC THE FIRST TIME THEY WHERE THERE SHE RAN THEM OUT BY YELLING AND DOIN WHAT SHE HAD TO..SHE CALLED HER FRIEND TO HELP HER WITH SLEEPING PILLS TO CALM HER DOWN. I ONLY WISH SHE WOULD HAVE GINE TO HER INSTEAD AND TAKEN HER OUTTA THERE .. BUT DIDNT HAPPEN. THE 2ND TIME THEY DID WHAT THEY CAME TO DO.. PPL PLACE ALL THREE THERE EVEN A POLICE PULLED THEM OVER ONCE THEY LEFT THE AREA AND HE NOTICE BOBBY RUGHT AWAY. SO HAD TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE A SUICIDE WHERE THEY FOUND HER NUDE WAS NOT THE PLACE OF THE SCUFFLE..NO NOTE ..AND OTHER FACTORS .. SHE HAD PLANS OF DOIN BIG THINGS THAT COMING WEEK.
BY NOW SHE HAD A GRIP ON THINGS AND WAS FINALLY STANDING UP TO THESE ABUSERS ..THOSE CASTING COUCH BASTERDS FAT DIRTY OLD MEN ALL HAD UGLY PART IN WHAT THEY DONE TO THIS POOR GIRL.. EVERY DOG HAS ITS DAY..ALL THIS INFO HAS BEEN KNOWN FOR SOME TIME . SEARCH IT YOU WILL FIND IT.. I DONT BELIEVE SHE DID THIS TO HERSELF...MAYBE BACK WHEN ...BUT SHE GOT TOUGH AT THE END TIRED OF THESE. PPL ..
All you said was true may the rot in hell!!! I feel so bad for Marilyn she was misunderstood for all her life and even in death their still making her look bad!
Those comments @ 23.23!!!
For me it's just the ONE don't exist woman like Monroe in this day love you forever Marilyn Monroe RIP sweet angel 💔🥺❤️💋🌹🌹🌹
She was a Smart Woman
She is always portrayed as a lonely figure, but she really got a lot of invitations and knew a lot of people.
But did they have her best interests at heart? Her first and second husband did but not her third, her housekeeper was suspicious, her psychiatrist, her friends lee and Paula strasbourg. Her second husband Joe adored and protected her
Marlon B tried to earn her about Strasber having too much of a good in her. Hi opinion was that a coach is supposed to coach and then leave you to it, not control everything about your life.
*glued
She was Murdered!
Kulinary Kreations The kennedy family had her killed ,just like Maryjo !!!!!!! Makes me SICK!!!!
I wish we could get another marilyn.