LAUREN BACALL on MARILYN MONROE - Diva on Diva
Вставка
- Опубліковано 6 сер 2018
- In a series of interviews and appearances spanning more than half a century, Lauren Bacall shares her memories and thoughts about Marilyn Monroe, her costar in the 1953 film How to Marry a Millionaire.
I met Lauren in 1992 or 1993 when she did a book signing in boca Raton, florida, at Liberty book store. There was a huge line up to get her autograph with purchase of her book, I bought the soft copy and she really wasnt supposed to sign soft copy only the more expensive hard copy, when I got to the front of the line somebody said sorry Lauren will only sign hard copy books, but being the wonderful person she was, she called me over and signed my book anyways against the rules....that was a class act, what a classy lady..I love her😘
linda ackerman I like Lauren. She was absolutely stunning. One of her makeup artists did my makeup on set too. She told me Lauren was funny and a very cool person to be around.
That was Sweet.
@@simplegirlslifestyle261 yes, she was the coolest☺
@Cassie cassie, I don't, ...I moved a few times since then so the book must have got lost somehow, I really wish I had it, It makes me sad to know I lost it but at least I have the memory...😪
I love Lauren Bacall also! I love her throaty voice and her looks and her personality and how she acted and her confidence! Yes, she seemed totally opposite of everything that Marilyn was! Oh, you were so lucky to have met her and bought her book, which I didn’t know she had done, and to get her autograph! That was very sweet and lovely of her to sign your paper back book! Do you live down there? I have a lot of history in Florida! Was Lauren living down there or did she just go on a book signing tour?
Nothing ever fake about Lauren, she was honest, straightforward and direct, no bullshit. I also think she stayed so attractive in her later years. one of my favourites for sure.
Agreed. She was hotter than Monroe ever thought about being. (Not that Monroe didn't have 'something' for sure. But Bacall had it all over her.) Genuine.. real.. ballsy.. no-nonsense. A broad in every good sense of the word!
Those eyes.
TheEditorialSuite ...As a little girl no more than 5 -6 y.o., my parents would have company over and tell me to give everybody “the look”...I had no idea how I arrived at imitating it but apparently I was imitating Bacall ...they and company would burst out laughing!
It wasn’t til I was much older as an adult that I figured out why they found it so amusing😊
She was one of a kind!
@@thekeeks58 This made me smile. Bacall did have it--and still does on film. 'Key Largo' and 'Dark Passage' are my favorites mine. Her gaze stops them in their tracks.
Me too
Lauren was consistent about Marilyn over decades, so you know it's true. Marilyn seems to have been well liked and understood by her female co-stars. You'd think maybe they'd resent potentially being outshone by her but I can't think of any that turned on her later. That says a lot about them and a lot about her. Lauren is incredible in Millionaire, the epitome of the American sophisticate. What a face. What a look. What a voice. What class. What screen presence. Hard to think of anyone today of her stature.
_amen._
Her female co-stars seem to have gotten along with her better than her male co-stars
Marilyn was a dreamer, childlike, sweet, fearful. And terribly insecure. Striking comparison to Bacall, who was in total possession of herself and her own prowess, ballsy even. Strong. Direct. Witty. Lovely that they got along and that Bacall could see to the heart of Monroe; that she was able to recognize that there was no malice in her, and she did nothing out of spite or meanness. Still so sad to me that Monroe never truly seemed to find long lasting, protective and unconditional love from anyone, in her entire life. She had everything, and she had nothing...
Very well said. May she rest in peace. I hope she's in a peaceful place but I don't know. I felt she was an icon of someone who was totally used and abused exploited
Je me permets de vous répondre en français. Marylin Monroe est la femme la plus belle du monde entier point. Tous les cinématographiques le savent. Le monde entier le sait. C'est pour cela qu'elle est si célèbre. Et d'ailleurs elle est très intelligente. Faites attention avec cette dimafation que vous venez de faire. Vous avez utilisé des mots agressifs pour décrire Marylin Monroe.
Her husbands, of course they loved her. Many collegues loved her. She had some deep trauma in her due to her childhood. Traumas like that makes it hard for people to adapt in relationships with other. So she had problems in trusting other people and believe in their love. She actually walked out on her husbands herself. On her wedding trip to Japan she left her husband to go to Korea. I suppose she wanted to flew something in herself when she did that... Very sad.
Yes you can imagine the difference given Bacall was raised by two strong Jewish women, she was always taken serious right away and Marilyn faced the opposite
Marilyn's demeanor isn't terribly uncommon among people with extremely troubled upbringings, like she had. She was abused her entire young life and had little stability or security. I don't think she ever truly healed from her past, learned to love herself, or fully develop her identity outside of the image that was created for her.
It’s lovely when you catch moments of Marilyn not acting and been herself , very different
I loved Marilyn almost as if I knew her after studying her all these years! To me she's acted like she was hypnotized here. Mind-controlled
@@sweetrose813 Don't be stupid. Hard for you, l know, but try.
@@TheSlayerPlayer Don’t be mean and condescending just because someone has different beliefs. Hard for you, but keep trying.
@@TheSlayerPlayershut up
Sorry but she act all moment infront camera I do not see real human I see fake personality to please men in industry and fans
this seems like the most unbiased, lacking of jealousy account ive heard of her. theres something i like about bacall, something very grounded and clear
Hello Patricia, How are you doing?
If you listen to Lauren or Jack Lemon talk about Marilyn and her flaws you can tell that they're coming from a place of empathy and understanding. A far cry from Tony Curtis who seemed to dismiss her as just being a prissy unprofessional brat.
I always thought he was jealous if her...ummm makes ya think
I like Tony but he really was a pompous ass. Plus he was a womanizing hypocrite that cheated on Janet Leigh constantly and eventually left her for a much younger woman. I'm guessing he tried to seduce Marilyn and she shot down his advances leaving him bitter toward her.
@@clifftrainor6774 Janet Leigh had a very annoying voice. Almost like a permanent nose whistle or something. It spoiled her star turn on the Columbo mystery, 'Forgotten Lady', in my opinion.
Annoying voice? I actually thought it was quite soothing. At least I thought it was in her early films. The way she tells Norman Bates "Oh, but you _should_ . You _should_ mind it" after he tells her that he doesn't mind his miserable life sounded really sweet and heartfelt. I never caught her Columbo appearance. Maybe all that smoking ruined her throat. Still doesn't excuse Tony from abandoning her and his children though.
I notice that too and didn't he have an affair with her as well? Wonder why he had such extreme disgust for her. Professional jealousy? Strange.
Marilyn was sexy... Lauren was sultry. Both icons!
That's a lie and completely backwards.
Imissingu2001 Just look at Lauren’s eyes... they say come hither. Reserved on the outside but probably eat you alive in closed quarters. A confident woman inside and out. Marilyn is still my favorite. Sexy, but her really she was just the sweet girl next door. She was type casted as the sex pot when really she was very erudite, an intellectual who loved books and the quiet of nature. Extrovert for appearance sake, but a total introvert.
@@TemplePriestess That wasn't directed at you. There was a comment up here that said Lauren was ugly and not sexy...but I guess it was deleted
That's the word sultry, sure of who she is and what her purpose in life was.
@Cynthia Murphy She had endometriosis and multiple miscarriages... She wanted kids
Lauren was a stunning beauty! She was not jealous and insecure about anyone. She was strong, independent and gracious!
Lauren Bacall pretty much nailed it. And she was classy. I think she "got" Marilyn, as a fellow professional. Love them both.
Lauren Russell-Pank ....That’s Our Girly Girls.....
Yes she did get Marilyn, and usually her female co-stars did. Jane Russell, Betty Grable, never any cat fights.
Too bad Barbara Stanwyck wasn’t as nice.
@@strengthandbulkMadness I thought Monroe said that Stanwyck was the only actress of the earlier generation to be friendly to her. Fritz Lang commented that Stanwyck never said anything when Monroe flubbed her lines.
@@WilcoBravoSchnauzer what movie was Barbara Stanwyck in with Marilyn?
I never really heard about Marilyn being nervous. She's always kinda been this icon of charm and charisma, but it sounds like she dealt with a lot of anxiety.
Jesse Sherer Yeah, the majority of her costars, directors, friends, etc said the same thing. She consistently held up productions due to severe anxiety/nervousness over her looks and acting abilities. Poor thing.
Jesse Sherer read the book “ goddess” about her, it describes Marilyn perfectly
It seems that she was skilled at faking confidence on screen and she could light up a room with her presence. But in reality, according to people who knew her or had to work with her, she was an extremely shy person. Very insecure and never felt good enough, which was why she was constantly striving to improve herself even more. Some of her fellow actors said that she would be so anxious that she would vomit before doing a movie.
Y
Unfortunately, she was a very troubled woman. God Bless her Beautiful Soul.
She had no meanness. She was sweet. She is a legend of beauty, sexy charm and radiance for all times. Timeless.
Lauren outlasted them all! She had a very long and fruitful life.
Bruce Hillberry - because Lauren had brains & morals, MM certainly did not have - she died young because she was a trollop, affairs with JFK & Bobby - so dumb, she thought JFK was gonna marry her - lol - so many idolize MM, reflecting how morals & real heros are almost non existent today
@@madambutterfly7513 lol just stfu
@@madambutterfly7513 You don't know that. Just like I don't know what Gaga is actually like. Lol
I named my daughter after Lauren Bacall , I thought she was the most beautiful person
@@madambutterfly7513 You sound like jealous twat. The whole jfk thing is nothing more than a horseshit rumor with no credibility.
I've been watching "old time" movie stars talk about other old time movie stars and to me Lauren Bacall appears to be the most honest commentator in summing up a fellow avtir, she's so very, very perceptive, really sums things up well, I loved her opinion of Richard Burton !
Barbara Stepien-foad .... oh my gosh, did you read that comment too? Miss Bacall just goes to the heart or maybe even the soul of Richard Burton’s character.... Mr. Burton just had money or maybe security on his mind. But I wonder, how can an artist be worried about the taxes he has to pay?
LAUREN Bacall is the ULTIMATE.
What I've always liked about Lauren Bacall is the fact that she was honest and said the things the way they were, even things that people wouldn't like. She didn't care about diplomacy or PR or politically correct.
Perhaps, I don't know her. I just know what she says in her interviews, and she has sometimes made me laugh with her brutal honesty
msinvincible2000 Yeah she always came across to me as being pretty straight down the line. I like Lauren Bacall.
If she wasn't mean to her hairstylist or make up person because they could screw up "the look" then who was there left to be mean to? If you think about, everyone from the cameraman to the lighting man could screw up her look so she had to be nice to them also. The only one she could be mean to was the cleaning woman.
@@jackanthony976 Marilyn wasn't mean to ANYONE. She had a sense of what she needed always to be what she wanted, to be where she needed to be. That's why we are still facinated, and still talking about her. She was never devious, conniving. She was never someone like a Zsa Zsa Gabor, tho if she had so desired could have been the Queen Bitch.
So you're also a Trump fan, then?
Lauren wished she were as “photogenic” as Marilyn? Really? Did she not understand how devastatingly gorgeous she was? They were both gorgeous in polar opposite ways. Lauren, dusky and sultry; Marilyn, pure bombshell.
HydeAndSeek I think she’s honest. She’s pretty in her own way but Marilyn just sparkles
Gorgeous and photogenic don’t mean the same thing. Both are stunning but Marilyn is more photogenic
Marilyn is iconic, but I looked up photos of young Lauren and I think my brain broke lol
A sign of being a very humble person.
I think everybody finds faults in themselves, and everybody wants to look like someone else, to a degree.
Monroe was definitely dazzling, stunning and irresistible. Her smile shined the whole world and She is truly in people’s hearts.
I am so glad I was named after Lauren Bacall she was so beautiful
Lauren's graciousness about Marilyn was very admirable. I had heard Lauren was a Diva but I'm not so sure after this interview. What a dame!
She was indeed a diva. But mostly bc influenced by Bogard.
I love the fact that Miss Bacall does not say a mean thing about Marilyn Monroe just like a true class act that she was. So many other people have said such harsh things about Miss Monroe. The way Miss Bacall describes Marilyn is how I always felt she was and I never knew Marilyn Monroe. She was an incredible fascinating woman who was used and killed so young. Yes I believe she was definitely killed and covered up by the kennedys and peter lawford helped bobby kennedy. An peter lawford was supposed to be a friend of miss Monroe. Some friend. You will never be forgotten and you will always be beautifully remembered Marilyn. God bless your soul.
She may very well have been murdered but it was not by the Kennedys or Peter Lawford.
@@daphneduryea9136 Nobody knows for sure who did it. I think nearly everyone who DID know the truth is dead.
Love them both. Becall is a Virgo marylyn is a Gemini. Earth signs are grounded 💟👍
As photogenic?! Bacall was beyond stunning!
She absolutely was, but Marilyn (partially thanks to the wonderful work of her makeup artist) was the most photogenic and videogenic (I just made up that word) human in history. She was ethereal, luminous, but it wasn't just the platinum hair and soft focus dewy makeup, but she shone from within, she was a presence, a screen goddess. All the big actresses of 30s-50s knew great tricks (some pretty crazy like removing teeth and pulling skin with tape, but we also do crazy shit now), but none of them ever looked so angelic anx out of this world, I actually think that film registered that even better than photos. She also had a dreamy voice and her every move was a choreography.
@@ocandro Beautifully articulated. Marilyn Monroe was truly special. She had the "it" factor at a level that none of the other Hollywood actresses of that era had.
BurgundyandBlue1111
She was so pretty she attracted the lesbian set in Hollywood too .
Joan Crawford and Barbera Stanwycke both had her .together ..threesomes .
@@cathyb2967 If that is true, maybe her "out there" lifestyle made it hard for her to hold down a long-term committed relationship. 🤷🏽♀️
BurgundyandBlue1111
Maybe ..The Other ladies preyed on young starlets like her ..She was used by Men and Women like many before and since ..It was always like that ..l was in the Model game and experienced it myself .same thing .
They worked together on "Haw to fish a Millonaire"...the other star was Betty Grable, the blonde Marilyn dethroned. There is a bautiful story; when the movie premiered, the three stars had to go out to say hallo and Betty took a step and pushed Marilyn to the stage and said: "IT IS YOUR MOMENT, DEAR"...a beautifull gesture.
VICENTE ROSALES ....That is so cool, I never knew that. Thanks For Sharing!
That is beautiful🌟✨
Marilyn couldn't dethhrone Betty Grable , Betty was gorgeous but also was 10 years older than Marilyn , Betty had gorgeous face and body , when Betty was 6 month pregnant she has a back sided picture in bathing suit and that picture was in almost every soldiers walls and still on the wall of many night clubs , there is a club named after Betty Grable as "Hurricane Betty", Betty did bad hair due in her pictures when she was with Marilyn including in that movie to her hair was pull back most of time didnt do her a favor but Betty even 10 years older than Marilyn was equally beautiful as Marilyn so does Lauren Bacall.
What a class act and so generous
@@blueheaven2135 betty grable is a queen and no one can change my mind
As beautiful, charismatic, iconic and undoubtedly talented Marilyn was, every co star over time recalled the same impressions and shared the same frustrations. Even if Marilyns personal challenges came from a good place it must have been a nightmare sometimes to work with her. So much effort would have been made to get her on set the other actors must have been affected. Acting requires such an emotional and physical effort, just imagine arriving on set on time, having read the script and prepared oneself to deliver the required performance and everything is put on hold for hours sometimes days. In an effort to obtain Marilyns performance the other actors must have become jaded and their stella performances lost.
Lauren Bacall is absolutely stunning. There is a difference between stunning and beautiful.
And the difference between gutsy, witty and mature woman. Marilyn lost the chance of childhood so she was a child in a beautiful women's body. She was a lost creature in a dragon world.
Yep....Lauren came from a stable background with caring adults....Marilyn had no stable foundation and had to feel very alone and abandoned, very tough situation to be in as a child.
Norma Jean was a lot more gusty and smart than people give her credit for. She founded her own production company and created her persona. I believe she could have done much more and grown as an actress given the right supportive environment. The tragic child is a part of her story but not all of it!
@@tonyb65adults plural? I thought Bacall was raised by a single mom? Hence why she went for a father-figure type man
Marilyn still takes my breath away... Always will. RIP
6:10 "She sure registered on that screen..." - Star charisma of the highest order, that is Marilyn Monroe. No one else like her.
@kiranjit rana Jayne "looked" like MM because she copied her image but she was nothing like Monroe, personality wise.
Great video with two legends the likes we will never see again.
Lauren Bacall beautiful woman and the way she talks about Marilyn Monroe shows that she wasn't an envious, jealous lady.
Marilyn is still in character as Pola when Lauren presents her with the "Look" award.
MM's smile is unequaled by anyone! She lit up the entire world when she smiled.
Ok Ok, gotta add one more thing.... Lauren Bacall was CLASS. Beautiful, intelligent, CLASS. I always wanted to be like her.
Class does not opine about someone else's psychological issues, or bring up petty grievances.
Marilyn was the quintessential gentile; beautiful, classy, caring, trusting & kind. What she encountered in Hollywood were the kind of evil, conniving snakes she never imagined could exist.
Marilyn was extremely comfortable in front of the camera, like Lauren said when the camera hit her she came alive, animated and looked gorgeous and glowy, in some ways I think being photographed was marilyns therapy and she was thrilled to do it..😘
Marilyn Monroe,
Was talented,she didn't know it...
She became involved with the Kennedy men whom used her then murdered her..
Marilyn ,deserved much more....
I hope you are at peace...
Lee Smith31348
Many used Marilyn Monroe...
She kept looking for approval
and love...
It destroyed her...
I admire her..
She did not know the danger, she was in...
Well look at how it turned out for the Kennedy's.....
Lee
In photoshoots, MM was in control and enjoyed them. On movie sets, she had much less control so apparently her anxiety was sky-high. Two of her coping mechanisms were to stall production by remaining for long periods in her dressing room and the other was having her drama coach always within arms reach. MM seems like she rehearsed every scene incredibly meticulously.
Everybody liked Marilyn but Lauren is my all-time favorite. She had beauty and sophistication and knew who she was. Marilyn lacked sophistication and she didn't know who she was because she created the Marilyn Monroe persona through plastic surgery and pretending to be a dumb blonde. This character or persona she created, took over her life and it consumed her.
Lauren Bacall was beautiful lady.
i love how whenever jane and lauren would tell stories about marilyn they try to say some things in mm's voice. you can tell they adored her :
o thank god for someone like Lauren Bacall. She grew old in a natural way ( not like Jane Fonda, who looks like a wax figure), she told it the way is was for her, she didn't insult anyone because of her own benefit. She was down to earth. And that is the rarest of things in Hollywood.
One of the most fun and wonderful things to see is when actresses can handle getting older and stay amazing in their adjusted roles (Angela Lansbury and Barbara Stanwyck I think are great examples of this).
I have never been a huge Monroe fan. She was ok but not that great to me. On the other hand, Lauren Bacall has always been a goddess to me. She was the most beautiful, sexy, gracious lady on screen and off. Her voice just made me melt away! In 1972 I met a gorgeous redhead with that same voice and looks. We married and until her death in 2017 she was the embodiment of Bacall. God has them both now.
Marilyn will be always in our minds for her charm and beauty..............
My favorite actress of all time will always be Marilyn. She takes my breath away every time I see a photo or clip and Lauren was a consumate professional. She was so amazing especially in scenes with Humphrey Bogart. I found it sad she lost her love so young due to age difference.
Nice to hear Bacall speak so well of Betty Grable. Her comments support all the other opinions and comments you hear about her. And Grable was very fond of Monroe as well.
Bacall, GOTTA ❤️ her. She was one of the BEST. That whisky voice gets me EVERYTIME!
There will be only one Marilyn Monroe.
Marilyn Thank you for entertaining us.
MARILYN MONROE ....ANGEL DESCENDED ON EARTH.
R.I.P
I think Lauren Bacall was a unique and great beauty and terrific actress. I loved her in How to Marry a Millionaire.
She did not connect with anyone, but she was herself... dazzling! Love this
Lauren Bacall is 100% class. Love her
Lauren Becall > Marilyn Monroe. Not only is Lauren better looking than Marilyn but she's a way better actress. For those that don't like Lauren's voice. Hey, when I first heard her speak in a Humphrey Bogart movie I thought her voice was too deep. She has the deepest voice I've ever heard from a woman. I asked myself, did she borrow Humphrey's voice tone? lol. Her voice is exotic, stimulating and a turn on in my opinion. She's easily one of the most beautiful women ever. Marilyn Monroe in my opinion is highly overrated.
It’s worth noting that Lauren Bacall’s natural voice was more *nasal and high pitched* (after all, Lauren was from the Bronx).
However, her “To Have and Have Not” director Howard Hawks suggested that Lauren be trained by a voice coach in order to speak in a *lower and deeper voice.*
As part of her vocal training, Lauren Bacall was required to shout verses of Shakespeare for hours every day, which is why she sounds so hoarse.
Lauren was still beautiful as she graced in age, she seems honest too.
Hello Brigdet, How are you doing?
I have a great respect for Lauren here because she had/has the self-confidence to not feel threatened by, and thus resentful, of MM's success despite her unusual and mysterious behavior. She really summarized MM quite nicely and matter of factly.
Lauren really came across as a c$nt. There was no need to bring up petty annoyances or make psychological assumptions about Marilyn. Lauren sounds condescending when she talks about Marilyn.
Lauren is a class act. . True lady !
Really ? It didn't take her long after Bogie's death to be with Sinatra. Maybe even before his death I wonder.
I miss Robert Osborne so much. TCM isn't the same without him. I often watched the movies just to hear his intros.
That voice, she was so amazingly beautiful..
Hello Tina, How are you doing?
she was a classic beauty, not cheap but classy.
Thank you for this channel!
Can you imagine what really went on behind the scenes in Hollywood ,with all the soulless monsters.
And still goes on and on and on........
Lauren always looked and sound old money... like Park Avenue money... Marilyn was a next door girl who turned out to be exceptionally beautiful.
I saw Lauren in New York with her dogs.... She was si nice and humble😍
Love it when a fabolous chick acknowledges another fabolous chick!!!!😎😎😎😎😎😎😎💞💕💕💕
Your a fabulous chick!
And I'm a chick lol
❤️💜
@@nicholeocornes543 Right back at you then!!!😱😎💕💞😀👋 And at PamelaJj too!!!😎😱💕😽👋
lauren bacall also wrote an autobiography in which she said more or less the same things about Marilyn Monroe but also added that in her opinion she was envious of her family status with two children and a beloved husband. then he also told of a curious episode of bacall's son who jumped on the sofa and to which monroe asked how old he was. he answered three and she said he looked older. "there was a moment of embarrassment," Bacall wrote.
Oh please Lauren was STUNNING!
That was a super cute movie(How to Marry a Millionaire)! Thanks for doing this!
Betty Grable actually had top billing over Marilyn Monroe in How to Marry a Millionaire, but the studio played up Monroe much more in their advertising campaign for the film. The media was hoping for fireworks between Grable and Monroe while making the movie, however, Grable basically told Monroe; Look honey, I've had a great run in films and now it's your turn to shine, now go and enjoy it. Grable was very kind by basically passing the torch to Marilyn.
I enjoy these because I get to view what my mom would if been exposed to. As her young self she was exposed to these images. And she would later share them with me.
Lauren, what an intelligent and fabulous woman.
Marilyn complained about Hollywood later, but let's face it she knew how to work it and she loved attention. She created the "Marilyn" character, but later complained about not getting more serious roles. It's very difficult to be pushing a sex symbol persona and then expect audiences to see you as this dramatic actress. She loved the attention of the sex symbol she created, but also wanted the accolades of the more dramatic roles. Oh! well....
Hello Sylvia, How are you doing?
I understand what you're saying completely but at least people can appreciate Marilyn's acting and deeper sides to her personality now that she's gone. Her role in 'Don't Bother to Knock' proved she had some range as well as movies like 'The Misfits' and 'Bus Stop.' I love that she enjoyed reading and took acting classes at one stage, formed her own production company and helped the career of Ella Fitzgerald. She was quite a lady :)
Another great actress saying lovely things about Marilyn.
Love her frankness. Both amazing icons in their own right❤️
Lovely to see these two together. So different in everyting, but they repected each other. And that' a beautiful thing.
_Absolutely stunning seeing the premiere of 'How To Marry A Millionaire' in color._
Another beautiful actress! Always perfect in every way...
I love this woman.....incredible career and I also Loved her commercials for the Tuesday Morning stores
MM must have had awfully severe cPTSD.. Thank god we know so much more about this, and how to heal. Rest in peace Marilyn.
Lauren was so beautiful in her older years.
Madonna take note this is how to age gracefully lauren knows how to do it
magnifique lauren bacall et sublime et inoubliable marilyn..................
Lauren was a great actress,beautiful and very natural, she wasn't obsessed to attract men,like Marilyn..
⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️Marilyn was GORGEOUS..........Abrazos
I think she was more of a model than an actress. She was so photogenic and knew exactly what she was doing when posing, but was very insecure about her acting. She needed no improvement when modeling but always felt she needed to keep improving her acting and was never secure with her performances. But, get her in front of a camera for stills or just panning, she was the best.
J kK the fact that she wanted to improve her acting is a good thing. If every artist think they are perfect then why bother? Have you seens her movies? She's awesome.
The thing is she really wanted to be a good--no excellent, actress. It was her dream and she's really underrated in her abilities, just see Some Like it Hot.
I think J KK has hit the nail on the head...Lawrence Olivier said exactly the same thing....she was a model who was kinda forced to act, and she was more insecure about her acting, as she knew she looked good and was comfortable with posing....She often said she was shy having to speak in public, so I think she created some kind of persona, rather than her real self on screen. A lot of shy people do that in order to be able to present themselves in public. Of course she was insecure, she had nobody really...no fabric of family....her mother sent away to a psychiatric facility, fostered out as a youngster, she was never sure of her father, although she did find cousins & aunts and some extended family who I know she spent time with during her life. It would have been nice for her to have had a husband and children to give her that family atmosphere I think she craved.....I always get that she was a bit lonely but got used to it as she didn't really know anything else. I don't think she was totally naive, I think she got to know the way of the business and learned as she went on through experience. She was desperate to hone her craft as an actress, and one of the bravest things she did I think was to go to the Actor's Studio when she was already an accomplished Hollywood movie star, and sit with these extremely good actors without the frills or the pomp and ceremony she carried with her. I don't think she was hugely promiscuous going off today's standards...she was married only twice, had a miscarriage, and had a fling with a President, we don't really know of any other dalliances, we are just guessing. The pills she took tainted her behaviour later on, but I never heard her say a bad word about anyone!....
@blanche kiernan Err Lawrence Olivier may have had limitations as a man, a human being in real life...but as an actor, he was BRILLIANT, and to say Marilyn was on the same acting par as him is ridiculous....She worked hard to be a good actress, she tried, but she was exactly what he said she was....a model who was forced to act. Marilyn was first and foremost a model. She was comfortable in that area, knew who to work the camera and was very photogenic. She had sexual charisma, was an extraordinary pretty, and attractive looking woman, and gifted with star quality...but a 'great actress'?...Sorry, she wasn't. She was like John Wayne, a personality with charisma, a strong presence, and star quality on screen...but great actors they were not...they just basically played themselves!..
Her comedic timing was brilliant. It takes an exceptional actress or actor to do that-again and again,.
"The world lost something radiant"💔
The 🎥 loved Marilyn. Even without makeup or costume, she could still wow any camera within feet of her. Such was her beauty.
Marilyn Monroe was quite literally a creation. Like John Wayne or Roy Rogers and so many others during the 30's, 40's, 50's and 60's. Even now, today, Hollywood still creates. She defined femininity. Her look was copied by many, but never replicated. Some came close. Like Jane Mansfield, but no women ever surpassed Marilyn in terms of true beauty both on and off set. Even by today's standards ( which in my opinion, are much lower ) Marilyn clearly looks far more beautiful verses any actress today.
What I find so very compelling and I truly believe this to be a truth about Marilyn, is, how can one be so beautiful, so very popular and yet......be so very alone!
She was, without a doubt, intelligent. Yet, her desire to be respected, was often hampered by her inability to simply believe in herself. Many of her contemporaries have indeed stated this. Of course in their own way.
Marilyn was and is, in my opinion, the single greatest example of a star who rises fast, but falls just as hard. What ever happened that day in her home may never really ever be known. I just wish she had had friends close by to watch over her. People she could trust........
M
Two opposites. Marilyn was a hurt child in the body of the most gorgeous woman alive. Bacall was her own woman who knew where she was going and what she was doing. Both irresistible but in so different ways.
Two legends.RIP ♥Lauren was a goddess.
It’s too bad Marilyn couldn’t find true contentment with Joe DiMaggio. I believe she was the only love of his life. She just never learned to love herself, so she wasn’t capable of loving the men in her life - in a contented way.
How could she "love" a man who beat her out of jealousy and tried to keep her at home to himself?
He didn't deserve her to begin with.
Rene Lynch Arthur was known to manipulate her and make her feel stupid. Emotional abuse is still abuse. She fell for men who had power and probably thought she deserved a love that wasn’t kind to her as most people with anxiety and insecurities do
Joe was possessive, sexist and jealous...he wanted her to dress more conservatively and tried to change her completely...that is not love.
@Gina Jennings People will often stay with or return to abusive partners because they think it's what they deserve. It doesn't mean they are happy. Often when they leave an abusive relationship they will find another one - same situation with a different person.
I believe, as Bacall said, that Marilyn was "totally self- involved" and "didn't connect with anybody". I bet she never had any female friends, because she wasn't interested in having any. Becall also said that Marilyn never looked in the other actor's eyes when doing a scene. That says a lot.
Dallas Jones - pretty pathetic wouldn't you say? Whose fault is that?
I think Marilyn was very scared of people but given her background, I don't blame her.
Heaven is eternal and so being late was inevitable for her. It was something that she had to work on, we all do.
Thank you!!! ☀️💕
1:05 wow, never saw that footage in color. Absolutely stunning.
And ditto to Bacall's critique. Marilyn just lit up! The room, the camera, the screen. She could just suddenly capture the atmosphere!!
She was (practically) an orphan after her mom got institutionalized. Then she got taken in by Hollywood at a very young age. In my opinion, that's enough to severely damage someone in life. It may not hurt someone long term if they have the coping tools going into life, however, without these, she was already lost going in to this situation. And then some people expected her to be perfect, and be able to assimilate into real life (much less Hollywood!) (What did we expect she was going to be?) Even though they took her in (saw potential) they still told her she wasn't good enough, and gave her multiple surgeries in order to fashion her into the perfect being they could exploit, and made her change her name (causing her to further detach from who she was before). The poor thing could never (would never be able) to fully appreciate her position. She had awareness of how great she was... of her position... but she would always have trouble accepting that she could be what she was (given her previous rejections in life), and also feeling like she was just appreciated for the new-improved (fake) esthetic version of herself. She went into everything lacking the base of a solid familial foundation, and cried inside (so wanting to share everything with someone familiar). On top of that, she knew that the admiration of her was probably a byproduct of the "improvements", and she could never fully accept that people accepted her for her true self (she would assume people only accepted her for her new exterior veneer she'd become). And if someone insulted her intelligence? This was like daggers on an already defensively uncertain (wounded), empty, soul. This was something more (that she felt she'd have to prove herself on). She couldn't stand the negative, because she was already feeling bad about the fact that she felt (her former self) was negated until Hollywood glamorized her. So in an attempt to circumvent more attacks on her, she attempted to buck her iconic image, and immerse herself within intellectual people and activities.
The fame shock and lack of family shock (not knowing who was actually "there" for her) was a dichotomy in which she was in limbo, and never truly knew how to fill that void. (She never had any good previous examples.) ❤ For people to say, "She seemed only halfway there" was not a detriment to her character, but rather a sad fact that this very young woman was trying to find herself after having been thrown into a sea of exploitation, (with only a fraction of the experience and support that most people have) Life experiences and support could have assisted her in having the perspective and objectivity to determine good from bad.
She was, sadly, the lamb for exploitive people. (Anyone who says she asked for this doesn't consider what I just wrote.)
My heart goes out to her. ❤
Laurence Olivier said she was more a model than an actress.. He said she lightend up when she was photographed.. She loved it and the camera loved her.. I think he was right
Olivier was a snob. When you watch The Prince and the Showgirl which they did together you can tell Marilyn is a movie star who knows how to act on camera. Olivier is still playing to the balcony and it doesn't make for a great screen performance.
Stephanie Gilcher you’re both wrong , Larry had to admit to being wrong finding out that Film is a different medium than theatre and started to explore Chekov and Stanislavsky in his old age
@@Reprodestruxion According to other Directors and fellow actors, Laurence Olivier clashed with Directions. Director's had problems with him because of his temperament. Director's stated that the conflict was caused because Olivier was a stage actor and not a film actor. Because of this, Director's said Olivier over acted. Sybil Thorndike who played the Queen Dousher had a very high regard's for Marilyn's acting skills. This is why I think Oliver and Marilyn clashed. Marily being a film actress and Olivier being a stage actor.
WOW, MY 2 FAVORITES FROM OLD HOLLYWOOD IN THE SAME VIDEO !!!
All I see in the comments who is better? Who's sexier? I honestly love them both, they are two different actors with two different styles 😍 back then in Hollywood a lot of actress butchered Marilyn Monroe name out of jealousy and her high fame. I ONLY see *Jane Russell Lauren Bacall Betty Grable and Joan Collins* admire her and spoke nothing negative about her. Like Lauren said she wasn't bitching and never try take anyone spotlight just sweet and innocent
I am watching How To Marry A Millionaire on DVD. I love that Movie so Glamorous with a fabulous Cast. The Technicolor made the Movie even more spectacular Glamorous. All three Ladies were Glamorous Movie Stars and sadly they have all journeyed on🤦🏾♀️🌹🌹🌹
If your doing uppers to stay thin, then downers to sleep you wake up groggy. You need time to wake up mentally. Reminds me of judy garland near the end. I bet that coach made marilyn feel insecure to keep her job. She would deflect to her, should I do it again? Im sure that coach kept her off balance to keep her cushy job.
Oh god thats awful... Now i understand why some of these actresses had a buddy/assistant with them at all times... Wtf
:-(
Joe Dimaggio ,her husband and pro baseball player stood up to the mafia and defended her honor. The mob was no joke back then.
ann brewer oh please 🙄
Snob You like to judge. Wait you will be judge soon
Of all the men she was with , Joe was the one that truly loved her . Even after she died . I watched an interview about him ,As he was sick and dying he made the statement , I'll finally see Marilyn again.
@@joleerinehardt2676 he beat her
@@ilean7499 Hillary Clinton beat Bill, but she still loves him. Or says she does.
Wonderful Lauren and magical Marilyn
She talked good about Marilyn that's great!
ABSOLUTELY DAZZLING as herself! Pleasant fun music here.
I love them both!!!!
Marilyn couldn't handle the stress that came with being a famous sensation overnight. She was still dealing with her own insecurities and fears and hadn't yet been able to deal with possible ghosts from her past that went as far back to her childhood years. Possibly things that women like Bacall, Grable and other women of her time had never gone through. So they couldn't understand her nor relate to her. Yet, they all judged her. Men wanted her for their own ego, for publicity purposes, not because they loved her, and she knew it and went along with their games....until she couldn't take it any more. That is what destroyed her; she wasn't able to find a man or a true honest to goodness friend that loved her for who she really was, an innocent, amazing, loving and adorable creature. struggling to find herself in the World of Hollywood. I think she needed to hang around with actresses like Bette Davis who could possibly help her overcome her struggles.
So insightful! And so refreshing after reading all the inane comments glorifying Bacall for her honesty. It's heartening to see not everyone is blind!
Remarkably, one actress revolted against Hollywood studios around the height of her fame, and saved herself from being destroyed like Marilyn: Joan Leslie. She grew tired of being forced into certain roles and refused to be turned into an object like Marilyn was. It hurt her career badly in the late 40s and 50s (she hopped around a few studios before hanging it up), but she saved herself in the long run and actually had a family, staying together with her husband until his death. Sometimes big money and fame isn't worth it.
Bette Davis made mincemeat out of just about everyone. And who are you to question the love of strangers? This just fits your twisted feminist narrative, which is all too common around here. Most of Marilyn's closest friends were men, and I mean friends - not lovers.