Should You Care About Your Rating?
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- Опубліковано 24 тра 2024
- IM Kostya offers tips and advice for players who worry about their chess rating.
Intro 0:00
Advice for beginners 1:32
How to break out of a rut 3:13
What is real chess improvement? 7:30
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The perfect video after losing 40 rating and questioning my existence
I know how you feel bro.
Please, don't question you're existence. You will improve. :)
From 2000 to 1900 in a day… I feel you
@@isabelbarcelo5296 Mine was OTB though😂 I was supposedly going for the CM title this year as a 2070 rated player and I ended up losing 40 rating points and now I'm 170 points away from the CM title.But it was a good lesson and I started reading books at my own which I've never done.I've gone through 3 books so far and nothing's stopping me this time.
@@benedekistvan2655 Great work man. I wish you success!
It took me a long time to understand that a short term rating change does not at all reflect a change in my ability. The rating and my ability are like a walk in the forest with a dog. Sometimes the dog will be half a mile ahead, sometimes half a mile behind, and sometimes it will be completely off track. But nobody would take your dog to assess whether you are progressing with your walk through the forest. The only difference in chess is that everybody can see the dog, but the man walking is invisible.
Amazing quote!
This is an absolutely stellar metaphor. Not just for chess ratings, but for a lot of ways we try to simplify quantifications for all kinds of other personal growth/skill development paths that have their own nuances.
In the case of your metaphor, a short term rating change is comparable to your ability to keep your dog disciplined.
Chess is a psychologically hard game. I keep seeing people new to the game trying to find ways to avoid stressing themselves out (and quite often these people avoid playing rated games... to not be disappointed, I suppose). But I think one just has to embrace the stress. And once you do, you realize stress stamina/management is actually one of the key skills chess helps cultivate.
I agree, we have to be challenged. Thank you!
Great point
It's important to maintain perspective. I don't think of it so much as a reflection of my chess strength but as a direct numerical index of my inherent value as a human being.
Very good 😄
Great points. People get way too wrapped up in rating to the point the game is no longer fun. When you consider that the vast majority of us are not chess professionals and never will be, it's absurd to have a hobby--regardless of how much time you put into it--that makes you miserable. A while back I realized I did a lot of chessable and puzzles but stopped playing games because I was afraid to drop below a milestone I hit. Ridiculous. And I've played people OTB (I'm only 1100 USCF) that I feared were about to hyperventilate they were so nervous. I think its normal to be competitive and want to improve, but when it obscures the reason we even started playing chess it become pointless.
For what its worth, I found it excruciatingly slow to improve past the beginner level but I think that I didn't appreciate just how difficult chess is especially when learning without a coach. Now, as an advanced player, I only worry about realistic progression meaning I know it takes 6+ months (with a lot of hard work) to make big jumps in rating. If I reach a new goal and my rating drops temporarily I don't worry too much as I know I can reach my peak again. However, one thing to keep in mind is that the game gets increasingly difficult as you move up the ranks. If you plan on earning a title it might be a good idea to hire a coach once you get past the beginner levels. Just keep in mind that a good chess coach won't come cheap.
Thanks for caring kostya! We appreciate the love!
“Grateful for every loss” is a point I doubt I’ll ever reach 🤣
Excellent comment!! @Robert
I actually care about my rating: in my family, the purpose of teaching Chess Is to surpass One day your menthor; my menthor was my father, he was around 18-1900... My goal(for now) Is to Reach that rating. ( Now i'm around 1650)
Every time I hear you talk about learning from your losses, I think about the quote from Capablanca (A Chess Primer, page 73):
Never hesitate to make a move for fear of losing. Whenever you think a move is good go ahead and make it. Experience is the best teacher. Bear in mind that you may learn much more from a game you lose than from a game you win. You will have to lose hundreds of games before becoming a good player.
Great quote!
I was watching lecture by GM Finegold and one thing that he talked about is that the best players in the world trust their own calculations. With experience you learn what works and what doesn't. But you have to trust your own ability to analyze the game and play the moves that you feel comfortable with. I recently played a (4+ hour) game with a friend and imported the moves to stockfish and found out that I made two "mistakes." Upon further review I disregarded one of the mistakes because stockfish recommends sacrificing the exchange for activity. Even with the help of stockfish I wasn't sure how the game should have continued in the long term so I decided my move was better because it had a clear plan (a long term strategic plan) which led to a win. Overall, I think we need to trust ourselves and play to the best of our ability. If it doesn't work then at least we know we gave it our best and we can learn from it.
This in an awesome quote
Great advice from IM Kostya. Especially about interest in the game, and learning from losing a game. Great video.
Worrying about rating more often than not just sucks all the joy out of playing.
Thank you for this..makes me letting go of worry about my rating easier as I fall into the under 3 years of chess category and want to focus on enjoying and learning the game.
I was thinking about how 12 yr old kid became GM but I'm 23 yrs stuck at 1400. I was feeling bad about myself. Thanks for making this video
This was a helpful video. I don't care about my rating, but I know others do, and they judge one accordingly... and that is a smidge bothersome. I know I will have to get over that. It would be interesting to see the other sensei's views on chess, or rather their philosophy.
Great video. I have fallen into this after a huge improvement from like 1200-1500 in two months and I've felt frustrated that I havent been able to improve much since. I got stuck between 1450-1500. My rating was a measure of improvement for me and it felt like my efforts weren't working anymore. I'm up to 1530 now and also felt like I got lucky wins lol. Video is spot on.
Another great video - thanks.
Thanks Kostya, another great video!
At 2:22 IM Kavutskiy said it could even take hundreds of years to solve chess. I did some research and it says progress is very limited. I like the idea of having a bigger goal, and I wonder if Kostya was inspired by GM Kraai's 2700 Quest! Great vid thanks
The 2700 quest was a long time ago! Inspired by the Dojo
@@ChessDojo oh ya Kostya workin on his GM norms. The day he reaches 2850 blitz will be
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I like the point that rating is more fluent than class. Bear in mind that, in order to move up into the next class, you need to be strong enough to beat players two classes higher in at least 1 out of 4 games against them. So, rather than focusing on your rating, focus on who you need to be able to beat - play up in tournaments when possible.
I remember playing someone 100 points above me, then a couple days later, we had switched ratings. Sometimes it feels cliche to say "ratings are just a number" but this example brought that home for me. I know I legitimately enjoy seeing what I did wrong, against someone rated 200 points lower or higher than me.
Also, I've found I've blown a few games where I was close to a new all-time high, because I was thinking about the rating. That's another reminder to put ratings aside during the game if at all possible.
Play Long Games. Play atmost 1 Game 1Day. Analyse the Game. Daily 10 puzzles . 1 Chess lesson has helped me keep my sanity
Great video
Damn i needed this. lol 🙌🏼
Spicy beginning hahah
very good video
Kostya the wise.
The moment a metric becomes a goal it looses its purpose.
Wow. I never thought about it this way, but you're right, it's incredibly circular to do a thing for the sake of a metric itself instead of for something qualitative about the activity. I feel like most people could stand to apply this in many areas of life.
I want to know more about how the rating is inflating/deflating. I care more about my percentile than my rating, but it’s unfortunate not being able to see how my percentile has changed over time
That being said, I wouldn’t say I put unnecessary emotional weight on the rating or percentile. I know if it goes down I’ll bring it back up
Studying my games with an engine leaves me paralyzed and afraid to play, because it shows all my blunders. "How did I not see that? How did my opponent not see that?" And when I lose a game, of course, my opponent DID see it. I have played maybe two games where I only played positional blunders (blunders that didn't allow my opponent to grab a piece for free). So my immediate goal is to improve the quality of my blunders. Do the top Grandmasters not make ANY blunders, or is blundering just a part of chess?
Everyone blunders! Even the world champion. Check out the recent "How to Chess" podcast with GM Perelshteyn for tips on reducing them :)
My suggestion would also be to play slower games if you can, good luck!
I certainly care about mine
Love your reference to Moby Dick. Do you think Ahab played black against the great White
I feel personally attacked haha, I have been stuck in the 1150-1200 rapid rating range for a while.
Climbing to 1100 was easy but as I got closer to 1200 I got scared to play.
Sorry! 😁
I know that a lot of people would feel bad the day chess gets solved.
@Siddhant Satao Point, but computers with computing power so high, would not take a lot of time to solve 960 positions, in which a lot converge into one another
Okay so i dont think we will see it getting solved but even if we see it what would change i mean we still are not going to memorize every computer line
Don't worry, It would not happen in our lifetime nor in our child's lifetime... Chess has about 10*40 legal possible moves, for the greatest engine we have now It would take around 1 Million years to "solve" chess
@@haroldfinch2165 Yes but it would surely affect in the artistic sense. The same way when engines came first
IvE bEeN pLaYiNg LoNgEr ThAn MiShRa WhY nO gM?!?!?! 😂
Hahaha
I'm pretty sure the quote form is temporary class is permanent is not created by Nakamura
Did another chess player say it?
@@ChessDojo Not that I know of but the quote dates back to around the 50s or 60s.
Cool!
I outplay my opponent in the first 25 moves like a grandmaster (engine approves) and then blunder like a beggenner I even have enough time I have tried many methods but nothing helped any suggestions?
Do you have a lichess account?
Blunders happen! Check out first episode of the new podcast "How to Chess" for advice on blunders 😊
Solve a lot of tactical problems AND get a book with positional problems to solve. Some Grandmaster (I forget who) once said that the better a positional player you are, the fewer lines you have to calculate.
Oh, and study endgames.
I watched this video and proceeded to lose 60 rating points 🙈😭
Every snot-nosed twerp on reddit needs to watch this!
Haha
4 months and cant pass 500 ..... :(
4 months is a very short time in the chess world. Make sure to join the Discord if you're looking for helpful advice 😊
I am 400 rating. My goal is 2900 in one year! Wish me luck
Good luck! You got this
You don't need luck. You need a miracle.
My goal was to achieve 2000 rating in a year (starting from 0) and I did it! (Well it’s lichess it’s not a real fide rating) 😂😂😂
you ‘ve got this!!
there’s no way lmao but good luck!
Should you care about rating? Short answer: Yes. Longer Answer: Yes you should.
Thanks for your comment 😆
“Form is temporary, class is permanent “. Maybe not. If you can’t change your class can you ever really improve?
Check your definitions. What you wrote is absurd.
@@Zenitself that's not what class means
@@Zenitself Kostya quoted Nakamura in the video. The quote probably applies best to bad form. A player in bad form does not thereby become a lower class of player. But a player who consistently improves his or her form over time may become a better class of player.
The idea is that your class (overall strength) doesn't go down. Daniel gets it right in his second comment 😊
@@Zenitself it makes perfect sense , literally just search the quote online