Can "YOU" See Why My Brakes Are Spongy?
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
- Dodge Dakota came in with spongy brakes. Some people will spot the problem right away others won't. How good of a mechanic are you ??
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Thank God I found this video!! I've been fitting my bad brakes for months after rebuilding the front axle on my jeep. I mixed up the calipers and never thought about it. THANK YOU
If you want to stop the reservoir from emptying itself when the lines are disconnected, depress the brake pedal with a stick and this will shut off the reservoir from the lines thus stopping any fluid leak.
Your right SilverCap. Odd so many mech's don't know that trick.
Indeed.
There'll be a little more fluid when you first loosen the bolts, but just catch that with a rag or something... but after that, the continous dripping/flowing will be almost zero.
MBC won't get drained, so there'll be a lot less bleeding to do too.
That's an old trick, but I just cap the lines so I don't have to walk around the vehicle and find something to prop the pedal with
@@bleachinuri If you pick up one of the irwin quick grip clamps, you can turn it around so it can expand instead of tighten. With that you just put it in and start squeezing the handle until its tight. Works great.
Finally Someone figured it out.
Thank you
Been there and done that!!! I'm at the 2.00 minute mark! Many, many years ago I got tripped up working on a Chrysler Lebaron. I spent 3 days trying to bleed the brakes before someone asked me if the bleed hole was on the bottom or the top of the caliper. I will never forget how stupid I felt when I meekly answered "On the bottom".
Thanks for the information man. I was sold a passenger side caliper and needed a driver side. I noticed the bleeder was one bottom but didn’t know it made a difference. I bleed brakes 4 or 5 times and never got air out. Even replaced my master cylinder. All this over a 2 week span. Happen to come across your video this morning. Thanks for your time much appreciated.
also an easier method for bleeding alone. a 600ml bottle, clear hose from the hardware store that fits snug onto the bleeder. drill hole in bottle cap, put brake fluid in bottle so hose end is submerged, put one hose end in bottle, the other on bleeder , open bleeder, pump brakes til no air seen in tube. refill master as needed.
quick and no mess or tired arm from pumping
And you're supposed to bleed the caliper farthest from the master cylinder which would be the passenger side rear
Robert Cox unless it’s a 1996 generation Honda Accord then it’s the opposite order.
@Richard McCormack get out and look. Put hose coming out above bleeder then down into bottle. If there is air you will see it in a clear hose...no bubbles in tube you should be good. Set up camera then review the footage and repeat process for other three brakes.
I did this once with a Malibu. They put a right in a box marked right and a right in a box market Left. took me a while to figure it out but lesson learned in the end.
You know 95% of doges are still on the road today.... The other 5 made it home.
Quiet one hahahahaha
You know what they say, look for the union label, right?
Yep, I had one.
Quiet One. Ha Ha very good.......
False... mine left my in the middle of no where
Some people should NOT work on their own vehicles. I've seen this before, with a dude I worked with, that replaced calipers on his four wheeler. Calipers were on the wrong side. I switched them around, re-bled them and they were great. I also had a Corvette come in the shop with a brake noise. The customer's brother replaced the brake pads in the rear putting the steel backing plates facing the rotor. Like I said, some people should NOT be working on their own vehicles.
amen
Lmfao I bet that corvette braked great with some good old SCREAMING OF DEATH from the metal grinding. I bet he was happy about having to replace that rotor too. Lol
@@saturnmedia1 Luckily I was able to skim chip the rotors and still be in spec. She didn't drive very long on it. Replaced the pads.
I'm an amateur and didn't spot that but learned and appreciate the video, especially the part of bleeding your brakes on your own, thank you.
June 12, 2002. Thank you, thank you. I went to Auto Zone and told the kid I needed a passenger side caliper for my 2004 Silverado. I had my core with me. He had it in stock. He took it out of the box and did a comparison and says, yep this is the one. I installed it on the truck, tried to bleed the brakes and could not get the brake pedal to stop going all the way to the floor. Tried many times with no luck. I went to You Tube and try to find some info on the problem. The only video that solved the problem was yours. Sure enough, when I look at the bleeder valve it was on the bottom. I had no idea the bleeder valve made that much of a difference. How you explained it, I can see that it makes sense. Luckily Auto Zone replaced it with no problem. So thanks again.
Glad to hear you got it fixed!
Thank you so much for this video, i own a 1994 Nissan 300zx and after rebuilding all four calipers my brake pedal went all the way to the floor, after bleeding the air out of the system...I read a lot online so the first thing i did was replace the master cylinder and it did not work, after that i replaced the brake booster and still the pedal went all the way down to the floor, finally after a lot of research i found this video, i went to check my calipers and yes my rear calipers were on the wrong side... I relocated them and bled the air out and Voila!, my brake pedal no longer sinks to the floor... Thank you for this video and good luck!
50 plus yrs of turning wrenches and I never knew this, I googled my brake problem and found your video and fixed a. Ford pick up with the same problem, Keep going with your video s. Your dang hood man
Thank you!! I appreciate that!
Easy fix. Flip the car upside down, bleed and flip the car back up. Done.
Seen
I have thought this before. Wish we could do this sometimes.
Nope you got it wrong correct way to fix car drive down a steep cliff , jump from door before cliff over ocean and then the jobs completed
@Kentucky Yankee, right @ 1:44 I about spit out my drink. That bleed screw at the bottom gets em every time. Hey, at least they were consistent with all 4 calipers. I'm a ASE master tech, and working in the field along time. I've seen that many times, but never more scary then when its another "technician" that does it. Wait until you see wheel cylinders done like that, really makes you scratch your head.
I saw that too!!! Started laughing my ass off. Who worked on this!?! Eric the Car Guy??? Lol
I like the "Can you see it?" format. Causes better learning to happen.
Great information for us backyard mechanics who don't have your experience. This video came just in time. I am replacing calipers on my daughter's car tomorrow. I'm hoping I wouldn't have put them on the wrong sides but now I know I won't. Thanks.
Thanks! Good luck tomorrow I'm sure it will go smooth
@@kentuckyyankee The calipers were marked "L" and "R". It's hard to screw that up. I got everything on the rear. 2013 Elantra. I bled the brakes using a tube in a bottle with fluid in it. I'm not sure it's right. The brakes are up but when I start it, the pedal goes to the floor. It comes back up. I drove it around and it seems ok but I don't want to give it back to my daughter if that's a problem. Any ideas?
@@waltp3373 Possibly still air in the system
I never knew this, I fixed the same problem by watching this video, Thanks so much
Bleeder screws should be on the top Calipers are on the wrong sides
I did the same mistake last year. I called a garage and he told me to check bleeders. Yep I had them on the wrong side. Happens to everyone at some point I bet.
I think I just found the problem!
Thanks to your video
Great video , something so simple can cause so much trouble ! This should be common knowledge but most people don’t know that the bleeder must be on top ! Thanks
Thanks for watching!
Kentucky Yankee- I'm sure you know this but for the edification other less experienced mechs out there; The fitting at the end of the brake line at the calipers is called a banjo fitting. Not only are 2 copper washers required but the bolt is hollow. Very important that the washers and bolt are clean and not damaged and as you mentioned, start the banjo fitting bolt with fingers as far as you can. They have "fine" threads and are hollow so don't get too aggressive with torque. Good video.
@@kentuckyyankee Hey Kentucky, since my last comment here I got one of those Harbor Freight vacuum bleeders. What a dream. Will never want to bleed brakes any other way. $35. If you do brakes regular, especially if you work alone, do yourself a favor.
Great tips. Don’t forget to lube the caliper pins with synthetic grease.
should have used new copper washers. when they get camped by the caliper bolt, they "squish" down to help seal the hose to the caliper, but, when they get compressed, they harden, making them less able to seal more effectively.
Funny. I watched a South Main Auto repair video with Mr. O when he worked on a Dodge and found that the Dodge factory put two left calipers in the back. Remember when the news expose came out about Detroit workers having liquid lunch hours in the park every day? lol!!
Are you kidding me? 😡 I been trying to figure out what was I doing wrong. I even changed calipers at the auto parts and still couldn't figure it out. Smh thank you for this lesson.
That's funny I had the same problem and I felt so stupid when I realized I put calipers backwards. Left on the right and right on the left
Don't feel stupid, that's how most of us learn. Now repeating the same mistake...........that qualifies as stupid! I think the way we really learn is when things don't go exactly as planned.One thing I would advise, it's kind of a cardinal rule in brake work, that is work on one side at a time, that way you have the other side for reference.Good Luck, and don't be so hard on yourself.
This is the reality at its best. LoL.
It doesn't hurt to consult a manual but now one is perfect I kNow I have done stuff wrong who hasn't.
I read in a barber shop that I whent to many years a go know; that was on his wall THAT said THOSE THAT DON'T MAKE MISTAKES Don't DO ANYTHING!
Thank you! I was about to bleed my rear brakes and noticed the bleeder screws on the rear calipers were on the bottom! This video just popped up in my feed. There was a reason! Subbed
So who actually put those brakes on in the first place. That's why if you are a DIY'er, you replace things one caliper at a time and put things back exactly like you removed them. lol
I did not know this, never thought this was a thing or ran into this. Thanks for sharing!
Kentucky Yankee My guess would be when they were installing the calipers, they thought the right side of vehicle was drivers and left was the passenger side. Seems to be a common mistake.
Had to do this the other day. Good tip for ya I’d like to add, after disconnecting the brake line pull the banjo bolt and grab some ear plugs, put a plug in the hole and the brake fluid will swell the plug stopping the leak. Helps with the mess. Cheers.
Thank you so much I put a disk brake conversion kit on my 67 Impala and no one could figure out the problem and I spent hrs on line looking for info and thank God I came across your video I would of never figured it out 👊🏽
Great I'm glad you got it fixed! Thanks for watching!
Loud and clear I love this guy
I liked the ending made lots of sense u still get a treat
Thank you so much, just realized why I have no pedal. Changing sides on my calipers now
I got one for you. Cusfomer did brakes and couldn't get them to bleed. Turns out they took the bleeders off the new calipers and wrapped them in teflon tape, covering the bleeder holes.
Always good practice to lube the sliders every time you take the calipers off. They like to rust and seize. Also, to keep fluid from running all over when you take the hose off GENTLY clip a pair of vice grips on the hose.
Yep, I have done several brake jobs in the past but, my dumb ass did just that. Bleeders on the bottom.
My manual, for my 05 Dakota ,. Just referred to abs module could be bad, booster is bad, and master cylinder is bad.
Even online that's the first thing that came up.
Then I found your video.
Fixed it right up and I learned something new.
Thank you!
Glad you got it fixed!
I don't know whats worse.... Calipers on wrong side or the use of a 12 point wrench when a 6 point socket could've been easily used. With that said excellent quick diagnosis
As a every so often part time youtube mechanic this video was very helpful.
I put 2 new front calipers on my truck, had the same problem with no pedal. Thanks Kentucky Yankee, I had the calipers on backwards. All good now
Great! Glad to hear it!
Great! Glad to hear it!
Thanks for this video, i fixed my own car, saving me money...
I have my bleeder valve pointed down... after i watched your video.. i swapped it from left to right like what you did.. and it worked... 2 thumbs up mate...
Awesome!
Faster way, get a little check valve that fits in 1/4 id tubing and orient the check valve so that you can pump fluid out from the bleeder valve when you press down on the brake pedal, but fluid (and air) can't flow back in when you let the brake pedal back up. Put tubing on the bleeder valve, attach the check valve to the tubing, attach tubing to the out-bound end of the check valve. Then open the bleeder valve, and pump the brake pedal until you cannot see any more bubbles coming out of the clear vinyl tubing attached to the out-bound side of the check valve. Just use a long enough piece of tubing from the out-bound side so you can bring the tubing over to where you can see it when you are pumping the brake pedal. This simply automatically duplicates the activity of opening and closing the bleeder valve with a wrench. If you are concerned about air being drawn in past where the bleeder valve threads into the caliper or wheel cylinder, when you lift up the brake pedal, and the check valve closes, then after opening the bleeder valve 1/4 turn and before pumping, snugly wrap some teflon tape around it where it screws into the caliper. Remove the tape when you are done bleeding, and before you tighten the bleeder valve.
Get a spare bleeder valve, solder up the original hole in the side of the valve, drill a 3mm hole through the centre of the spare valve, screw the spare valve in to the calliper tight, then no air can escape through the threads, now when you bleed the brakes no air can be drawn back through the threads of a loosened valve when you take your foot off the pedal, then pull the bleed pipe off and refit the original bleed valve, a few drops of fluid will drip out while refitting the original valve but no air can be drawn back into the calliper, I always keep a modified bleed valve in my brake bleeding kit.
@@kensmithmail Hmm. Sounds like a good idea. I am trying to picture everything that is going on here. With the new 3 mm hole allowing a route for fluid to travel through the valve without opening the valve, you don't have to loosen the valve to allow fluid to flow out when you press the brake pedal down. However fluid can flow back in when you take you lift your foot up and let the brake pedal come back up. It has occurred to me that if you have the outlet of your bleeder tube above the height of the bleeder valve, air will escape, and facing up, it seems to me that there won't be bubble of air in the tube that can be sucked back in as the brake pedal comes back up. Is that correct? Otherwise you can use a check-valve in the bleeder hose, which will also have the advantage of not allowing rake fluid to be drawn back in. If you are just bleeding the brakes I think probably the check valve would be a better idea. If you are pumping out brake fluid until clean, new fluid is being pumped through the bleeder tube, and the end of the tube is submerged in a clean jar with clean fluid in it, above the level of the bleeder screw, I suppose it doesn't matter if brake fluid is sucked back in, as it will be clean brake fluid. Am I picturing this correctly?
Hmm, too funny. Tell the owner, well we can either swap the calipers side to side or flip the truck over on it's roof to bleed them out, ha ha.
Could just bleed them by loosening the lines but you wouldn't be there to laugh at the next guy when he wonders how they ever worked.
That's what cluster f***s are made of.
Working on another Dodge with a double whammy brake issue. 17 year old vehicle that had mushy pedal when it
was below 50F. Seals in master-torn and causing internal leak. And replacing the vacuum booster. It has a small
leak in the diaphram, big enough to cause engine stumble, off idle poor performance. Check valve and hose were good
Just stepping on the brake in park, would drop it 200 rpm
Interesting is that only new master cylinders are available, but the booster can be a rebuilt. Plus $50 core.
Remanufacturers will not warranty their booster if you resuse an old master cyl and it develops a leak out the back seal.
When voice don't match face. Lol
lol u stupid that was funny tho
I thought same thing lol
Thanks for a simple explanation the weekend warrior can understand.
lol..I'm not too proud to admit I've done this before on my '97 K1500 Silverado front calipers. My little brother was helping me on one side and he just grabbed one out the box and bolted it up without comparing the old one. I'm not putting all the blame on him though, I was just as guilty for not paying closer attention to what we were doing. We bled over a quart of fluid through and finally realized something wasn't right. Lesson learned..make certain you put it back the way it was!
Very helpful. I also liked your commentary to your dog. Glad you gave your dog some treats too.
This dude just solved my problem
The brake pedal is not airy when the vehicle is at rest but super spongy when it's running. Despite sinking almost right to the bottom, it actually works super well and the grip sets in just right in the middle. It seems to me that this does not match with the description of this video. I wonder if it is the master cylinder issue, or something else, but what can that be?
Must be endemic I'm working on a 2006 SL (No rear Discs) same dam thing! WTF!? Basic physics Thanks there, Mr. Yankee!
I love watching videos that are not from Minnesota cause every single bolt is easily turned.... No luck with that in Minnesota. 5 minute job takes 5 hours lol
You are intellegent my friend. I experienced that trouble whe i was in california.because of the bleeder at the bottom you can not bleed properly.you are absolutely correct.
Saw the same problem in another shop video, very helpful. But you did NOT replace the copper washers with new ones.
Those are those upside down power calipers! Sweet 👑
Check the brake line-caliber bolt for proper torque. they might have hung the caliper on the line when changing stuff. Bleed air out of brake bleeder ball/can by releasing all air pressure from ball/ or unscrew cap from can to allow air bubbles to expand, rise to top and pop, takes 20 minutes. Then bleed brakes starting at farthest bleeder.
KENTUCKY YANKEE...YOUHAD MY ATTENTION RIGHT AWAY
Calipers are on the wrong sides. Pretty easy find 👍it is a easy mistake . Great video
My 96 ram 1500 has spongy brakes and doesn't build pressure till you rev the engine.
But the whole brake line has been replaced.
And when you press the pedal quickly. It makes a air sound
Old Sling Blade fixin your lawn mower, Great video, Thanks Yankee
I got some rubber plugs that are convenient for swapping out calipers they just slide through the banjo fitting and stop it from dripping all over while swapping parts you can get them at auto parts store makes life easier
I could use those will look for them. Thanks!
I have carefully done my own brakes for years and have never seen or had this upside-down caliper problem.
But another issue: I did not know you are to use 2 copper washers - one on each side of the banjo bolt, when replacing the calipers. The few times I have replaced calipers, only 1 washer has always been on the old part, so I have assumed it was right and put 1 washer on the new one, thinking the parts supplier gave me an extra washer, in case I dropped and lost 1! lol - But I've never had a caliper leak.
Don Fisher the other washer was stuck on the bolt and you didn't notice. If there was no washer on one side it would leak for sure.
love having my own lift too . enjoyed this video . you know why ford put hand warmers on the tailgates. . to keep your hands warm while you push it home. .
yeah, I saw it right away. they've got all the calipers reversed side to side. Rt calipers are on Lt, and Lt's are on right side. You can tell because the bleeders are not on the top of the calipers, which you need to get the air out of the system. I just had an argument with some genius on ebay, who sold me what he claimed was a RH caliper, but it was a LH.
The easy cheap way to bleed brakes yourself is with a bottle with a piece of hose that goes to the bottom of the bottle that sits in some brake fluid so when you pump it it pushes the fluid and air out but wont suck air back in because the hose is submerged in brake fluid
10 seconds in i see the calipers are up side down ha ha bleed screw goes on the top. Had a chevy in the shop the people didnt want to spend any money so i pulled it off, stuck a block of wood in it between the pads, bled it and bolted it down and told em. they were happy. left on right, right on left.
Love the vintage left front wheel 5 lug mod.
The copper washers have to be replaced every time you take them off. You can make a one man bleader from a plastic drink bottle & some tubing in minutes.
The pump kit I bought says that you start at the caliper closest to the master cylinder. I was always told to start at the furthest from the master cylinder. And this Blazer does have ABS, so the closest first. This could be the problem with the spongy brake pedal... Great video by the way...
Thanks Good Luck!
It works either way whether you start at the back or the front, I start at the front if I am doing brake hoses etc and a flush since most of the gooped up fluid can be pumped through the wheel by the driver, then work your way back you are just flushing out the lines -don’t rush it and use gravity as your friend to keep everything full of fluid at all times, you may go through 1/2 gallon of fluid or more but all gets flushed out. If any of the lines got empty, such as a blown out tube, then you may need to apply pressure to fluid in the master cylinder and go around cracking bleeders until all are clear of bubbles
And when the break press down then the bar drops I have done that a couple times. Quite effective.
When you bleed your breaks start with the one closes to the master cylinder and work your way out.
I know you know that. Lot of people watching might not.
thats why today we have picture phones...you take a pic before you take it apart....great vid
Hard to beat an experienced eye 👁!!Good advice.
Thank you!!
Well, at least they were consistant!😬
The infamous reversible calipers.
That is an amazing discovery.
That's why if you don't do this for a living, you do one at a time.
Kentucky Yankee, exactly! If you want it done fast, take it in and pay more. If you can turn a wrench, anyone can, you can save some money but it will be slower.
wrong! don,t do it period
no offence but bleeding brakes should be done from the farthest caliper first then work your way to the closet caliper. when replacing parts you should always work on one part at a time not remove all the calipers then install new ones that is a bad practice. one last thing is anyone who wants to do their own repairs and if they have a phone or camera should takes pictures of the item to be fixed so they have a record of how it was installed. as a heavy duty mechanic/welder I myself take take pictures of every item i fix for record and proof of repairs and damages.
the#1, most important safety item on all cars and trucks BRAKES. would you let your local butcher replace your heart valve?
Not always, my Xterra is rr, lf, lr, rf
Thanks man you just fixed my problem....
LOL bleeder screw is on the bottom. The calipers are on the wrong side!
Whoever did the original brake job probably fixes exhaust leaks with duct tape and bubble gum
Bleeders on the bottom??? Reminds me of the ‘ roller coaster ‘ clutch hydraulic line on my Escort. To get good bleed you had to hold a finger over the bleeder and pump the pedal about 10 full strokes fast to shoot all the air bubbles out.
Reminds me of some people I have known back in the day.
Thanks for watching!
This might have just saved my life, gonna go check mine tomorrow but I’m pretty sure I have my bleeder valves on the bottom as of now lol
Good deal! Easy fix
Pull the caliper at it I did notice the cow the bleeder was on the bottom which I found kind of odd but I didn't really pick up on it.
Something similar happened to my brakes. I had to change the rear driver side caliper. O'Reilly guy kept asking, "Which side?" That should have been my first clue. Caliper comes in next day, I put it on not thinking anything about it and bleed it. Pedal goes to the floor. A few hours later, pedal goes to the floor after bleeding repeatedly. I finally notice something is off...bleeder on bottom. I took caliper off, put a small c clamp on it so the piston didn't move, put a board on the brake pedal against the front seat and moved the seat forward. With the brake completely depressed, I held the caliper so the bleeder was at the top, loosened bleeder and what did I see coming out in the tube? Air, of course. Tightened it up and repeated twice. Brakes back as good as new and I'm using the passenger side caliper on the driver side. I wish I'd seen this video prior to installing, uninstalling, and reinstalling the caliper.
great work mate it also worked on a Suzuki Liana 205 model
Thank you for the vidéo. My right front calliper was installed with a calliper for the left side causing the bleed screw being on the bottom.
Never was able to get a good brake peddle
Glad you got it fixed!
I think I have my dad's in backwards. thanks for posting this
Easy fix=Back fill the system thru the bleeders. Those Calipers are made for the southern hemisphere market.
I got an Easter way. Turn a quart of brake fluid upside down in the master cylinder get a piece of windshield wiper hose put it on the bleeder valve and the other end in a clear bottle. Water bottle ok.open bleeder with open end wrench and let fluid run until no bubbles in bottleclose bleeder and go to next wheel. Nobody has to pump the brake
I never reuse copper washers, but I have bled brakes myself just like that many times
Very good video...I fall into the 20% of the viewers. I'm an amateur. I'm learning mechanical work. Thank you for your video... I learned a lot.
nice to meet you
Very very informative! Thank you!
You're Welcome !
Definitely didn't see that, calipers on opposite sides that's a new one. I thought maybe the line were twisted that mistake happens but I've never seen that before. That's why I came up with a twisted line or they put the pads in backwards. Wouldn't that have been putting up a fight to try to get on there? Or maybe got in the wrong caliber that could have been an honest mistake or you get the box and you got the wrong caliper inside the box that's what I meant.
i never take all he calipers off i replace one at a time so never to mix them up
However since i never do t I have never got the bleeder upside down Thank you for pointing that out Also when bleeding the brakes i notice you went straight to the driver front One should always bleed the further tire first that will be on the passenger rear tire But i know you know that your smart great Job you tough me something
Thanks for watching!
You are supposed to start farthest away from h master to bleed.
Use a bleeder bottle. A plastic bottle with brake fluid and a hose from the bleeder tip.
Use an old calking gun flipped around to hold the brake, gas, clutch.
I told you this because you have a Parson Jack Russell.
that was fun and i thought it was the left front caliper leak then it looked like the right front leak ok so i was wrong but i learned and thats what i like to do is learn from my mistake
I know how ya feel no body to help you just gotta figure out away! Cool good information
Yes I see it right off. Bleeder at the bottom, air on top, lol.
The bleeder screw goes on top!!