I add the step of squeezing the oiled filter in paper towel to get any excess oil out of filter so it's not over oiled. Squeezing alone sometimes isn't enough.
Nigel Naughton - Thanks. After riding I always clean my bike thoroughly at home. it allows me to inspect every part of the bike and discover any damaged or broken components. The last thing I want is a broken part to stop a ride, so I'd rather discover and repair it at home than in the mountains. I like keeping my work area clean and uncluttered. I think it reflects to quite a large degree on the final quality of work . It also makes it much easier it you don't need to spend time searching for tools and parts. I'm sure working tidy saves you time and money in the long run...
Great video. Going to try the oxyclean. Curious how many cleanings you get out of one filter before it starts to deteriorate and gets thrown out? Thanks
I like to grease the air boot as well, if any dust does get passed the filter it may stick to the grease plus it is a tell tale sign if dust has gotten through.
I like your videos or better your toturials....and they help me more and more to fullfill my next step...to buy a KTM 😉 THX for the super detailed information .... and all the best from south germany.
I've been told to avoid cleaning filters with 'solvents' such as mineral spirits or kerosene because they can degrade the filter membrane or the glue that is used to attach the two foam pieces together. I know gasoline is a lot harsher and can damage foam, but my understanding is that kerosene is a lot more mild, is that why you're using it?
Soo many things to think about that can affect the tuning of the bike? Is the grease and oil going into the engine? How long will this treatment last? Will different weights affect the engine performance? Do you really need all that kerosene and detergent? Can use use the solvents again? How is the weather going to affect the filters? Would no oil be bad if conditions aren't harsh? Can you use just motor oil if you don't have filter oil? Why can't you use your own foam or filter? What if you have a filter with a cover on it? Hrmm ... :O
No, sealing grease and filter oil should not make it into the engine. A good filter oil will become tacky once air dried and cling to the filter. Be sure not to over oil the filter (remove excess oil), or it may drip oil.
@@TokyoOffroad working good. The old filter was a douche, but it has a nice metal frame and screen. The Uni filter I got is working good, but I had to cut the foam bar going across the opening. Wrong filter I guess. I stopped and got the K/N recharger, makes it easy to spray on.
Do you keep your filter oil in the Twin Air filter oil tub with the lid on, or do you put it back in the bottle? I ask because I did this with the blue (non bio) Twin Air oil and it turned the tub blue. I asked them about it and they recommended putting back in the metal bottle, but said it is purely a visual thing and technically can continue to do what I did as long as I am OK with a blue bin. Just curious if Bel Ray behaves differently.
How do you feel about the Maxima "disposable" filters? I have the stock and a 2nd twin air I plan to use most of the time, but have bought a couple of the disposables I thought would be good to use if I don't have time to clean the Twin Airs or to keep with me on a multi-day adventure. Heard some say they don't seem to have enough oil.
I've only used stock (Twin Air) air filters. They are cheap and work well so haven't considered buying anything else. I typically but about 4 filters and rotate them, cleaning and oiling 2, or 3 at a time. For multi day dusty condition trips you could carry a couple of spare filters in ziploc bags.
Wow thanks for the fast reply! I just got a 2018 300 xcw and finding tons of great info here. I think you are right, about 4 of the stock filters on hand would accomplish the same goal and be cheaper in the long run.
I'm looking for a replacement air filter for my 2017 Husqvarna TE 250, which is basically the same model as your 2017 EXC, cannot seem to find one...just thought I'd ask if you knew the part number or could find one? Thanks Dan.
Do you store the oil filter oil in the tub between oilings? I sometimes use a large zip-lock freeze bag to oil. Then turn it so a corner faces down. Sip the end of the corner off and squeeze it back into the bottle. I do have one of the oiling tubs like you used, but have not left it in there. I suppose I could try it. Just don't want all the alcohol to flash off.
Yes, I store the oil in the tub. Make sure that the tub is sealed well. However, I don't put all the oil from the bottle in the tub, maybe 1/3 of a bottle, use it up and add more when necessary.
Do you find the oxyclean suspends the particulate and gets it to drop out of the filters? I've always done kerosene and then dawn dish soap and it works well but oxyclean sounds interesting. Does oxyclean break the surface tension of the water the way soap does?
I'm no expert on the properties of Oxyclean and haven't observed it closely when using it so can't answer your questions. What I can say is that I've found it to clean the dirt out of air filters well, but you do need to let them soak for some time (preferably overnight). The Oxyclean powder dissolves best with hot water. If you do try Oxyclean it would be interesting to hear back whether you prefer it over your current method (using Dawn dish soap)...
What grease should be used on the outside? Not sure if I really need it on my 2011 250XCF but the previous owner put some.. looks really sticky and a PITA to remove..
I don't use and grease as my filters seal well without. But if you want to use some I'd recommend a general purpose waterproof grease. Something like Bel Ray Waterproof Grease, or Motorex 2000.
builderpro155 - If I was in a pinch and the only oil I had was motor oil, it would be better than not using any oil. The advantage of oil designed for airfilter use (such as BelRay) is that it tacks up quickly and doesn’t drip.
Tokyo Offroad Great video! Can diesel be used as a solvent? Will it dissolve the filter oil like kerosene without damaging the filter like gasoline? Thanks.
I have considered Notoil before, but never tried it. From reading reviews and comments online there seem to be people who love it (because it's easy to clean) and people who hate it (concerns of poor air filtering performance). I don't have any issues with regular airfilter oil, so continue to do it the way shown in the video...
It would be better than nothing. But it won't tack off like air filter oil, so will drip and make a mess. My recommendation is to buy some Belray filter oil...
Personally I'm not a fan of using gasoline to clean foam air filters as I found it hardens the foam and breaks the filter down, significantly reducing the life of the filter. Besides which kerosene is a lot cheaper than gasoline where I am. And engine oil doesn't tack up, drips and makes a big mess.
Stephen Flury- I squeeze the filters as hard as possible, multiple times in different ways to minimize the amount of oil. I never get any drips, or runs. Can't see how I could squeeze out any more oil than I do...
Oxiclean makes sense and works so good. First forty years on the dawn, oxi clean from now on.
I add the step of squeezing the oiled filter in paper towel to get any excess oil out of filter so it's not over oiled. Squeezing alone sometimes isn't enough.
Became a fan after 'garage talk'! Brilliant!
Great video and tips. It's amazing how fast the kerosene gets rid of almost everything.
Yes, it works well and is cheap :-)
You need more subs, great content and excellent info. Thanks for doing this.
Dan Whittaker - Thanks for the feedback. I'm pleased to share the knowledge I have. Hopefully can help out some other riders...
Awesome, quick how to video. Love how you keep your bike and work area so clean.
Nigel Naughton - Thanks. After riding I always clean my bike thoroughly at home. it allows me to inspect every part of the bike and discover any damaged or broken components. The last thing I want is a broken part to stop a ride, so I'd rather discover and repair it at home than in the mountains. I like keeping my work area clean and uncluttered. I think it reflects to quite a large degree on the final quality of work . It also makes it much easier it you don't need to spend time searching for tools and parts. I'm sure working tidy saves you time and money in the long run...
Great video! That newer mounting style is way better than my 2012
Great video. Going to try the oxyclean.
Curious how many cleanings you get out of one filter before it starts to deteriorate and gets thrown out?
Thanks
I like to grease the air boot as well, if any dust does get passed the filter it may stick to the grease plus it is a tell tale sign if dust has gotten through.
Yes, I'm currently doing that as I too think it's a good idea and extra insurance...
top notch tutorial and excellent filter cleaning process. Thank you for posting another great video. keep up the great work!
I like your videos or better your toturials....and they help me more and more to fullfill my next step...to buy a KTM 😉 THX for the super detailed information .... and all the best from south germany.
I've been told to avoid cleaning filters with 'solvents' such as mineral spirits or kerosene because they can degrade the filter membrane or the glue that is used to attach the two foam pieces together. I know gasoline is a lot harsher and can damage foam, but my understanding is that kerosene is a lot more mild, is that why you're using it?
Yes, I haven't experienced any damage to TwinAir filter material or glue using kerosene as a solvent.
Right on, love these how to videos and tips, they help! Thank you
Do you mix kerosene with water? and what proportion ?
Very good information 👏🏻👏🏻
Soo many things to think about that can affect the tuning of the bike? Is the grease and oil going into the engine? How long will this treatment last? Will different weights affect the engine performance? Do you really need all that kerosene and detergent? Can use use the solvents again? How is the weather going to affect the filters? Would no oil be bad if conditions aren't harsh? Can you use just motor oil if you don't have filter oil? Why can't you use your own foam or filter? What if you have a filter with a cover on it? Hrmm ... :O
No, sealing grease and filter oil should not make it into the engine. A good filter oil will become tacky once air dried and cling to the filter. Be sure not to over oil the filter (remove excess oil), or it may drip oil.
@@TokyoOffroad working good. The old filter was a douche, but it has a nice metal frame and screen. The Uni filter I got is working good, but I had to cut the foam bar going across the opening. Wrong filter I guess. I stopped and got the K/N recharger, makes it easy to spray on.
Very good video and thank you for sharing it. Cheers.
Do you keep your filter oil in the Twin Air filter oil tub with the lid on, or do you put it back in the bottle? I ask because I did this with the blue (non bio) Twin Air oil and it turned the tub blue. I asked them about it and they recommended putting back in the metal bottle, but said it is purely a visual thing and technically can continue to do what I did as long as I am OK with a blue bin. Just curious if Bel Ray behaves differently.
How do you feel about the Maxima "disposable" filters? I have the stock and a 2nd twin air I plan to use most of the time, but have bought a couple of the disposables I thought would be good to use if I don't have time to clean the Twin Airs or to keep with me on a multi-day adventure. Heard some say they don't seem to have enough oil.
I've only used stock (Twin Air) air filters. They are cheap and work well so haven't considered buying anything else. I typically but about 4 filters and rotate them, cleaning and oiling 2, or 3 at a time. For multi day dusty condition trips you could carry a couple of spare filters in ziploc bags.
Wow thanks for the fast reply! I just got a 2018 300 xcw and finding tons of great info here. I think you are right, about 4 of the stock filters on hand would accomplish the same goal and be cheaper in the long run.
I'm looking for a replacement air filter for my 2017 Husqvarna TE 250, which is basically the same model as your 2017 EXC, cannot seem to find one...just thought I'd ask if you knew the part number or could find one? Thanks Dan.
Do you store the oil filter oil in the tub between oilings? I sometimes use a large zip-lock freeze bag to oil. Then turn it so a corner faces down. Sip the end of the corner off and squeeze it back into the bottle. I do have one of the oiling tubs like you used, but have not left it in there. I suppose I could try it. Just don't want all the alcohol to flash off.
Yes, I store the oil in the tub. Make sure that the tub is sealed well. However, I don't put all the oil from the bottle in the tub, maybe 1/3 of a bottle, use it up and add more when necessary.
Will this work the exact same for a 2019 CRF250R? Like the same products and whatnot? :)
Do you find the oxyclean suspends the particulate and gets it to drop out of the filters? I've always done kerosene and then dawn dish soap and it works well but oxyclean sounds interesting. Does oxyclean break the surface tension of the water the way soap does?
I'm no expert on the properties of Oxyclean and haven't observed it closely when using it so can't answer your questions. What I can say is that I've found it to clean the dirt out of air filters well, but you do need to let them soak for some time (preferably overnight). The Oxyclean powder dissolves best with hot water. If you do try Oxyclean it would be interesting to hear back whether you prefer it over your current method (using Dawn dish soap)...
I have bike maintenance to do tonight. I’ll give it a run overnight and let you know tomorrow!
What grease should be used on the outside? Not sure if I really need it on my 2011 250XCF but the previous owner put some.. looks really sticky and a PITA to remove..
I don't use and grease as my filters seal well without. But if you want to use some I'd recommend a general purpose waterproof grease. Something like Bel Ray Waterproof Grease, or Motorex 2000.
great, thanks. Your videos are super useful.
Could you just use motor oil my question is could I use used motor oil or do I have to use brand new oil ?
builderpro155 - If I was in a pinch and the only oil I had was motor oil, it would be better than not using any oil. The advantage of oil designed for airfilter use (such as BelRay) is that it tacks up quickly and doesn’t drip.
Does kerosene ruin the foam air filer
Darcy Foster - No, kerosene is fine. Gasoline on the other hand ruins foam filters.
Tokyo Offroad Great video! Can diesel be used as a solvent? Will it dissolve the filter oil like kerosene without damaging the filter like gasoline? Thanks.
You really need to look into Notoil, no gas or solvent needed, and you can wash them in the clothes washing machine!
I have considered Notoil before, but never tried it. From reading reviews and comments online there seem to be people who love it (because it's easy to clean) and people who hate it (concerns of poor air filtering performance). I don't have any issues with regular airfilter oil, so continue to do it the way shown in the video...
I've been using it for 20 years, and never had a problem? The red oil is the best IMO.
I'm afraid to go to no toil mainly because you see guys have it start running out the air box after the filter gets wet. Bel Ray is some sticky stuff
@@eliworks8549 - Yes, I still use Bel Ray. I think it works great and has never dripped.
Eli H no it doesn’t do that, it will only wash off your filter with the notoil filter cleaner. Been running it for over 25 years!
Do you reuse the kerosene? Thanks
Vincent Stagliano - Yes, I reuse the kerosene many times. The bucket of oxyclean mix I only use for one batch of filters (3, or 4 filters) though
Wow, kerasine. Does it smell strong
Olivier - Yes, the smell is a strong. You'll want to let the air filter air dry outside after washing in kerosene...
What do you do with the oily Kerosene? Just use it for starting bond fires or is there another way to recycle it?
Might still be good to use for cleaning the chain. I think that is the advantage of Kerosene, it makes for a good all around strong but safe solvent
Can I use 2stroke oil to oil the filter?
It would be better than nothing. But it won't tack off like air filter oil, so will drip and make a mess. My recommendation is to buy some Belray filter oil...
@@TokyoOffroad tq sir👍
Engine degreaser works way better than kerosene. It take out the oil and dirt. Then I hit it with the pressure washer
Oh, just get some gas, wash it , let it dry, pour some motor oil on it , then squeez it out, and done.
Personally I'm not a fan of using gasoline to clean foam air filters as I found it hardens the foam and breaks the filter down, significantly reducing the life of the filter. Besides which kerosene is a lot cheaper than gasoline where I am. And engine oil doesn't tack up, drips and makes a big mess.
way way too much oil on that filter
Stephen Flury- I squeeze the filters as hard as possible, multiple times in different ways to minimize the amount of oil. I never get any drips, or runs. Can't see how I could squeeze out any more oil than I do...
Have you tried one of these Nibbi filters with the little pyramids all over it?
Funnelweb filter? No, I've only used stock filters which are made by TwinAir.