Good video. I have used Belray for decades but now also like the ease of NoToil but when I let my bike sit for a few weeks the NoToil on the filter seems to lose tackiness so I redo the filter. I am referring to the stock foam filter for a YZ250 and a KTM 300 XC TPI. Re-used more times than I can count with these 2 products. After the filter is cleaned I squeeze the water out as best I can. Never twist it. Then set it on the top of the black closed lid of a bbq. The heat from the sun and the black surface will dry it in about 1 hour. No damage to the filter. DO NOT turn on the bbq. LOL. I do this when it is not windy outside so the wind does not blow the clean filter onto the ground and get it all dirty. Then oil it and re-install it. Been doing this for decades when at home.
@@jowhi9296 no, I buy Twin Air or Tusk reusable filters. The only brand of reusable filter to avoid is Uni filters, as the thinner in the red No Toil oil will dissolve their glues (green No Toil is ok apparently). But I’ve had good results and long life with Twin Air & Tusk filters, so I don’t bother with Uni filters.
I recently switched from no toil (red) to maxima fft. I loved no toil and used it for several years but the last 2 bottles I got run out of my filters and make a mess on my swingarm, garage, and van floor. I use mineral oil in a 2 bucket method. First bucket for initial clean and second bucket to clean the residual. Its not much more work than the no toil system was.
I inspect the pores on my filters. Hold them up with the sun behind them and if you see light peaking through the tiny holes, replace it. I always test my filter for tackiness. A dry filter is bad news. No Toil-Yamaha bio and Honda- bio users. It’s crucial that you shake the bottle vigorously before usage. The ingredients separate and will run or dry on your filter.
What is the cleaner to use with rhe maxima filter oil? What is a good air filter to get these days. So many names out there. A reusable one would be best for me at this time for a 2007 Honda CRF450R. Thanks!!
Check out Maxima Air Filter Cleaner: www.rockymountainatvmc.com/parts/maxima-air-filter-cleaner-p Our Tusk First Line Air Filter is a great option, they compete with other great brands and is reusable. It's great quality, with great airflow. www.rockymountainatvmc.com/parts/tusk-first-line-air-filter-p?v=5538 I've been running these in my bike for a while now and haven't had any issues.
Kerosene in a small bucket with a grit guard disc in the bottom works great and I haven’t noticed any deterioration of the filters in 5+ years. Wear gloves 👍
@@tomu1527 Sorry, those other responses were someone else here at Rocky Mountain. I use Maxima FFT in the Twin air bucket, with the Tusk filter. Twin Air also makes a good filter, you'd be good with either. Anyway, thanks for watching and commenting! -Charles
Tip 6: Most New bike air filters do not come oiled! dont roast that brand new bike without oiling the filter. Now for the question with no good answer, what do you do with your spent cleaning fluids?
I worked at Chaparral in the 90s. Sold a Banshee. The first place he rode it was Glamis sand dunes. Our prep guy didn’t oil the filter. Poor old Phil Biloches New twin cylinder 350 was destroyed in one day. Chaparral denied the claim.
Do you have experience with KLX 230/300 air filter? This bike has a slide in type filter. Tricky part is it’s “kind of” foam filter. (At least it looks like it.) But it doesn’t feel like it’s oiled. Should I oil it to improve the performance? Or should I just clean it but not oil it?
What year and exact model? For some reason I'm not seeing a slide in filter for those bikes. Most of those will have a foam filter that needs to be cleaned and re-oiled. For paper filters, you don't want any oil on them at all, but on foam filters, the oil is what actually catches the dirt, so you need to make sure they are oiled! -Charles
@@rmatvmcI’m sorry if I’m mistaken. 2023 Kawasaki 230s. I haven’t opened the box yet when I order the extra air filters from Kawasaki(OEM). The filter looks like a form. And when I watched the UA-cam vids, it seems that form is supposed to be in a plastic casing (that gets slid in) The confusion for me is that, according to your website, you have a Hi-flow filter for my bike, but one of the Q&A on the website says the Hi-flow filter is NOT supposed to be cleaned and reused. Then, I also found a UA-cam video that shows how to wash and oil it. I am trying to understand what is the correct way to use the filter. Thank you.
@@human1513 Shop repair manual is like $70-80 dollars, and I don’t know. Kawi dealers - have NO ideas regarding 230s. Kawi call center - 1h 30m holding and telles me to replace it. Okay the real confusing part is 230s owner’s manual has no info. This manual is incredibly useless. Even provides incorrect info (such as incorrect psi due to a different wheel sizes) - doesn’t say a thing. Just saying do the maintenance. My best guess is, just replace it. Then I saw some videos about oiling and cleaning.
I was waiting to hear "don't clean it too often" but maybe that's not a thing??? I feel like a lot of people clean their filters after every ride or race and probably just degrade the filter faster than needed.
Good video.
I have used Belray for decades but now also like the ease of NoToil but when I let my bike sit for a few weeks the NoToil on the filter seems to lose tackiness so I redo the filter.
I am referring to the stock foam filter for a YZ250 and a KTM 300 XC TPI. Re-used more times than I can count with these 2 products.
After the filter is cleaned I squeeze the water out as best I can. Never twist it. Then set it on the top of the black closed lid of a bbq. The heat from the sun and the black surface will dry it in about 1 hour. No damage to the filter. DO NOT turn on the bbq. LOL. I do this when it is not windy outside so the wind does not blow the clean filter onto the ground and get it all dirty.
Then oil it and re-install it. Been doing this for decades when at home.
I love the No Toil products, because they’re effective and when cleaning them, you can rinse the filter in running water at the end.
I see most No Toil fillers are throw aways. Do you wash the throw away?
@@jowhi9296 no, I buy Twin Air or Tusk reusable filters. The only brand of reusable filter to avoid is Uni filters, as the thinner in the red No Toil oil will dissolve their glues (green No Toil is ok apparently). But I’ve had good results and long life with Twin Air & Tusk filters, so I don’t bother with Uni filters.
Great advice, you guys Rock 👍🏻
Thanks for watching!
Assuming non-biodegradable cleaner, how do you dispose of the used cleaning solution?
I've been using diesel fuel for a while to clean. Never had any issues.
I recently switched from no toil (red) to maxima fft. I loved no toil and used it for several years but the last 2 bottles I got run out of my filters and make a mess on my swingarm, garage, and van floor. I use mineral oil in a 2 bucket method. First bucket for initial clean and second bucket to clean the residual. Its not much more work than the no toil system was.
I inspect the pores on my filters.
Hold them up with the sun behind them and if you see light peaking through the tiny holes, replace it.
I always test my filter for tackiness. A dry filter is bad news.
No Toil-Yamaha bio and Honda- bio users.
It’s crucial that you shake the bottle vigorously before usage.
The ingredients separate and will run or dry on your filter.
Only have used No Toil. Where do you dispose of the maxima cleaner after it has been used a few times?
Gas cleaner gang give this a like 👍
Cleaned my twin air with gas / varsol a million 20 times no prob
Kerosene works as well, but is not so harsh on the foam and glue.
@@victorbeazel2479 but the kerosene doesn’t evaporate quick enough !
Use 2 stroke mix. Cleans and oils at the same time.
@@kenpickett9317 cringe 😬
What is the cleaner to use with rhe maxima filter oil?
What is a good air filter to get these days. So many names out there. A reusable one would be best for me at this time for a 2007 Honda CRF450R.
Thanks!!
Check out Maxima Air Filter Cleaner: www.rockymountainatvmc.com/parts/maxima-air-filter-cleaner-p
Our Tusk First Line Air Filter is a great option, they compete with other great brands and is reusable. It's great quality, with great airflow. www.rockymountainatvmc.com/parts/tusk-first-line-air-filter-p?v=5538
I've been running these in my bike for a while now and haven't had any issues.
@@rmatvmc ok I thought you said the liquid in buckets was better than the airsole sorry
Kerosene in a small bucket with a grit guard disc in the bottom works great and I haven’t noticed any deterioration of the filters in 5+ years. Wear gloves 👍
@@tomu1527 Sorry, those other responses were someone else here at Rocky Mountain. I use Maxima FFT in the Twin air bucket, with the Tusk filter. Twin Air also makes a good filter, you'd be good with either. Anyway, thanks for watching and commenting! -Charles
Tip 6: Most New bike air filters do not come oiled! dont roast that brand new bike without oiling the filter. Now for the question with no good answer, what do you do with your spent cleaning fluids?
I worked at Chaparral in the 90s.
Sold a Banshee. The first place he rode it was Glamis sand dunes.
Our prep guy didn’t oil the filter.
Poor old Phil Biloches New twin cylinder 350 was destroyed in one day.
Chaparral denied the claim.
Do you have experience with KLX 230/300 air filter? This bike has a slide in type filter. Tricky part is it’s “kind of” foam filter. (At least it looks like it.) But it doesn’t feel like it’s oiled. Should I oil it to improve the performance? Or should I just clean it but not oil it?
What year and exact model? For some reason I'm not seeing a slide in filter for those bikes. Most of those will have a foam filter that needs to be cleaned and re-oiled. For paper filters, you don't want any oil on them at all, but on foam filters, the oil is what actually catches the dirt, so you need to make sure they are oiled! -Charles
@@rmatvmcI’m sorry if I’m mistaken. 2023 Kawasaki 230s. I haven’t opened the box yet when I order the extra air filters from Kawasaki(OEM). The filter looks like a form. And when I watched the UA-cam vids, it seems that form is supposed to be in a plastic casing (that gets slid in)
The confusion for me is that, according to your website, you have a Hi-flow filter for my bike, but one of the Q&A on the website says the Hi-flow filter is NOT supposed to be cleaned and reused. Then, I also found a UA-cam video that shows how to wash and oil it. I am trying to understand what is the correct way to use the filter.
Thank you.
What does an Owner's Manual, or Shop Repair Service Manual say. Or a Kawi dealer?
@@human1513 Shop repair manual is like $70-80 dollars, and I don’t know. Kawi dealers - have NO ideas regarding 230s. Kawi call center - 1h 30m holding and telles me to replace it. Okay the real confusing part is 230s owner’s manual has no info. This manual is incredibly useless. Even provides incorrect info (such as incorrect psi due to a different wheel sizes) - doesn’t say a thing. Just saying do the maintenance.
My best guess is, just replace it. Then I saw some videos about oiling and cleaning.
Where's the pj1 air filter cleaner and oil?
I wonder if any one just takes them to a laundry mat?
I have an old washing-machine in the garage…
@ollie_kdc8915 👀😂
Eats the foam
@@Papparratzi Really, have you tried?? Sound like something you heard and took for true…
@@BricoleurTV I mean, No-Toil's claim is that you can. 🤷♂ -Charles
I was waiting to hear "don't clean it too often" but maybe that's not a thing??? I feel like a lot of people clean their filters after every ride or race and probably just degrade the filter faster than needed.
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