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Demonstrating Tormek’s Centering Knife Jigs KJ-45 & KJ-140 | Part 16 | Tormek Live Sharpening Class
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- Опубліковано 6 кві 2022
- In this Tormek Sharpening Class episode we will take a look at our new knife jigs, KJ-45 Centering Knife Jig and KJ-140 Wide Centering Knife Jig. They have been developed to take precision knife sharpening yet another step further.
With Tormek's patented KJ-45 Centering Knife Jig, you'll get symmetrical bevels with the same angle on both sides of the knife, regardless of the thickness or geometry of the blade. Whether you're sharpening a regular kitchen knife or a thicker, tapered hunting knife, you'll get the same results on both bevels of the knife without needing to reset the jig. The KJ-45 Centering Knife Jig fits most types of knives: household knives, chef's knives, craft knives and knives for hunting and fishing. It also works for the woodcarver's straight drawknives and the gardener's pruning shears.
The longer clamp of the KJ-140 Wide Centering Knife Jig stabilizes flexible knife blades, such as filleting knives, to prevent them from bending. This gives you the same angle and pressure over the entire bevel.
Both new knife jigs work with Tormek T-4 and Tormek T-8, as well as older models with a Universal Support.
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Thank you for the videos, they are very helpful.
Hey gents! Thanks for these videos, and for filming in English. Much appreciated. Looking forward to more learning from y'all.
You are welcome. We are glad that you like the videos!
Since I discovered the asymmetrical apex from the old rig, I’ve been using my whetstone for a few years now. This might be one more chance to bring out my t4. Hope it’ll be worth it!
Please make the older ones available as well. Being able to widen the arc by making them longer was very handy. Great video as usual!
Hej Sharpaholic-1 , sorry that will not happen due the manufacturing tool had to be replaced and the restrictions and flaws that the jig had gave us the opportunity to enhance the functionalities of the jig.
Both of you guys are great.
Thank you so much for the feedback! 😀
Hi. I got my KJ-45 jigs today and can test how they will work with Lapland leuku puukko which has 6mm thick spine. I have waited this kind of solution a longer time. Thank you for your support when I updated my SA-250 to almost T7. Greetings from Finland.
We are happy to hear that and hope they will work good for you! 😊
I have a T-8. I'm interested in the diamond wheels, but i have questions about particularly thin knives. I have a couple of Shun knives with very thin edges like 9 or 10 degrees. I have also been frustrated when attempting to sharpen shorter paring knives with a short distance from the back of the blade to the edge. Getting it perfectly centered in your small knife jig is nearly impossible, so I've resorted to a Lanksy setup for my pocket knives. However, Lanksy will not handle a less than 17 degree setting. I have also had challenges getting a grip I consider secure enough when clamping at a 2mm depth. I'm really glad you're doing theses videos.
Hej ladykay8, when you clamp the blade just 2mm, you have to tighten well, one of the other reasons could be that you apply too much pressure. I sharpen personally my pocket-knives free hand with tiny secondary bevel due the fact that the knives are already tapered from the back of the blade to the edge. The SVM-00 Small Knife Jig is centered when the blade is mounted perfectly alligned with the metal bar of the jig. When you have tapered blades (all the blade from back to the edge) it's a bit tricky, you have to compensate the tapered angel or you have to adjust both sides to your desired angel. The most common problem is the construction of the knife itself, that the blade isn't symmetrical or the blade isn't symmetrical mounted in the handle. Here some instpiration ;-)
instagram.com/p/CQOmJvGLBRQ/
I hope I could answer in some way your question /Wolfgang
This is what I have waited for...
På en del scandi grind kniver har jeg fått forskjellig bredde på eggen pr side.. disse jiggene ser ut som en løsning på det problemet
Yes, the new KJ-jiggs might help with that. 😀
For those who are interested:
I bought this jig recently and have used it to sharpen several knives. It does a very nice job of centering on thin knives with minimal to no taper. No complaints there. However, all of my EDC knives have a full flat grind, so they taper from spine to edge as well as from handle to tip. I find it impossible to get full contact between the jig and the sides of the blade, as this would require the side of the jig twist in two different axes. This jig is definitely an improvement, but it is annoying that Tormek does not offer a solution for securely clamping this very common blade shape. That is, unless I am missing something.
Hi there,
For more accute tapers, you might need to loosen the front screw quite a bit for the jaws to be able to close around the blade. Hope that makes sense. If not, please send an email to support@tormek.se and we'll help you out.
Stay sharp!
/Hugo from Tormek
Finally a new clamp!
:D
Gud firi gud cuk guzel bravo good
What understand it is not longer possible to adjust the length between the edge of the knife and the hold which means that you have to adjust the bar every time instead of always have a specific length which I do - 140 mm. Now you have to recalculate every time to get the bar at right hight.
Hej Tomas, right, the advantage is that the precision increases due the fact that the knob can change during sharpening, especially when you have more rounded tips. The adjustment with the Universal-Support is much more precise and you develop a muscle memory (when holding the jig) with the time and you handling is getting more secure and again the sharpening more precise. I´ve personally never have adjusted the knob because its also faster to adjust the Universal-Support.
I hope I could answer your question. /Wolfgang
Maybe I can get a tip here: I have the knife holder (the small one), and am sharpening 25-30cm kitchen knives in a T8. When I slide the knife left/right on the stone, then *sometimes the knife tilts, and with that I sharpen on the edge of the stone and immediately have a nick in the middle of my blade somewhere.* Sure this must be user error, I must hold the knife wrong somehow...?
Hej yxcvmk, when you round off the edges with the Stonegrader SP-650 the risk is minimised. Another tip is to hold the knife not cramped, just comfortable and lose, to have better the contact feeling and the feedback. Last but not least hold the blade straight and don't go to deep.
The convex feature is exactly what I was looking for. The new holder will be a game changer for me; especially with sintered resin bonded CBN stones!🔥
Glad to hear, let us know how it goes! :D
So one thing maybe you can make clearer. When you lift the knife when grinding the tip are you no longer making contact with jigs shoulder on the guide bar. The camera person zoomed in to close and we were not able to see what was occurring at the guide bar.
Sorry to hear that you think it was not perfectly clear. You can have a look at our other knife sharpening courses on knives. They are with the older jigs, but the info is still valid ;)
Fantastic. So this fixes the self centring issue with the jig. But what about fixing the off-centre issue with the small knife jig and small knives like pen knives? Not an issue for me, but maybe an issue for others?
Hej Richard, due the fact the small knives have to be clamped in the SVM-00 Small Knife Holder and the handles mostly aren't symmetrical or can't clamped symmetrical you have to adjust bot sides. There are naturally some limitations that a jig can't solve except they are very complex.
//Wolfgang
Is this really fully self centering? No more paper/tape filling for blades thinner than 2,2 - 2,5mm? What about knives with 3 - 6mm thickness for example? What are your experiences people, please? I am strongly considering buying this thing. Thanks in advance for answers.
Yes, it really is self centering! 🤩 It centers knife blades up to 10 mm thick and up to 6 mm for tapered knife blades. We love it a lot and hope you will too. Stay sharp!
Hi there , I’m wondering when these jigs will be available in Australia? Thanks.
Hi Gavin! I'm not entirely sure at the moment to be honest. Your best bet is to contact your reseller and ask them for ETA. Stay sharp!
That’s pretty, cool, but you know what’s cooler? The guide they have for the single purpose T2 knife sharpener: just set the guide to the correct angle and stick a knife in and go to work. No need to do all that setup for each knife. Seems like they ought to make something like that for this. All that messing around for each knife and I’m just going freehand.
The patented guide for the Tormek T-2 Pro Kitchen Knife Sharpener makes the sharpening of kitchenknives even more convenient!
dear thanks a lot for video, i have questions please...what type of sharpening method does vectornix brand use???
i bought a lot of knives from china but the edge sharpen is bad...i am going to buy like that machin u have from china...vut not sure about their machines quality neither their stones ( i am
thinking of using diamond ston to re-sharp the knives again, but not sure how many grits do i need to make deboning knives?!
pllllz help
Just cut myself on a VERY sharp knife, I'm so proud of me. Thank you, Tormek! Lmao.
Ohno, we hope you did not hurt yourself too much! Tormek-sharp is really sharp 😎 (written with a plaster on my left thumb... )
@@TormekSharpening that's funny! Now I know why you included band-aids with the kit. You guys are great, love the classes. Thank you for all of it.
Anyone tested the new knife jig and compared it to the old one? Conclusions?
We have, but I guess you're after an unbiased opinion, so we'll leave this for someone else to answer 😄
Hoy 7 de abril 8.30 no pude estar en línea,me interesa mucho, todo lo que tenga que ver , con los servicios que ofrece las herramientas de tormek para el afilado de cuchillos,tijeras,brocas etc.quiero pedir catálogos de todas las referencias de afiladoras tormek para comprar la 8 -4 -150 gracias.buen día.
Translate Tool:
Hola! No ofrecemos catalizadores, pero tenemos la información más importante sobre nuestros productos en nuestra página web: tormek.com (in English)
English:
We do not offer catalouges but we have the most important information about our products on our webpage: tormek.com
Stay sharp!
Síp về việt nam là giá bao nhiêu tiền 1 cái ak ? Bán cho tôi 1 máy ?
Hej hoangnguyenvan2566, your closest retailer would be in South Korea. Please check our home page for your closest retailer.
They are asking about UV because many plastics degrade and become brittle or discolored with exposure to sunlight. Some plastic materials will also discolor.
Original knife jigs were a faulty design from the start. Two different bevels were the result. How sad that we are forced to pay again for a correctly designed jig. Also sad how long it took Tormek to finally realize this and/or fix the issue.
That's like saying that the Model T was faulty and we shouldn't have to pay for the upgrade to a 2022 Ford Taurus
Hej there,
the SVM-45 Knife Jig works very well for most users. We are always working on optimizing our products and listening to the feedback of our users. The product development is done in Sweden, Lindesberg and takes time. We want to deliver high-quality and well-tested products 😉
Stay sharp!
Like he said early in the video, the difference for the vast majority of knives wasn’t much and the old jig worked for decades. Relax bud
@@yo_stephen In my opinion, in terms of geometry the SVM-45 never put on a consistent angle on both sides. For the amount Tormek charges for their machines I would expect better. After all, they came out with a new knife jig. If nothing was broken why fix it? Why improve it? "Worked" is a relative term. Perfection....not so much. They should offer a send us your old jig and receive a discount on the new one deal at minimum.
The original job worked fine and it was possible to get symmetrical bevels if you made the small effort or resetting your angle when you start grinding the second wide. The new jig is a convenience. If you don’t want to pay for it, no one is twisting your arm. Be grateful Tormek designed and produces this awesome system at all.
👍
Got my KJ -140 today. The jaws don’t close tight the whole length of the jig. There is a gap in the middle. Is this the way it’s suppose to be?
Hej Pat, could you contact our support-team via support@tormek.se about that. It would be great to send a photo of the product and mention where you purchased it.
Stay sharp!
Hi Pat! Yes it's supposed to be like that, that shape is what ensures the grip on your blade. Let us knjow how you like it! :)
Most my knives are full grind. Do you make a full grind jig?? Like KME's jig.
Hej John, The KJ-45 and the KJ-140 does this in a limited way too, due the flexible part of the jig.
I hope I could answer your question. /Wolfgang
Hi, when will these new knife jigs be available in NW ON Canada?
Hej Maurice, it will be in summer.
Per cortesia si può avere il filmato in lingua italiana?siamo clienti anche noi e a quanto mi risulta non pochi grazie spero ricevere una risposta positiva possibilmente initaliano
Sarà dura. 🤣
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Hej!
Purtroppo non abbiamo esperti di affilatura che parlano italiano nel nostro team. Ma UA-cam offre i sottotitoli nel tuo browser se clicchi sull'icona dell'ingranaggio.
English:
Unfortunately we do not have italian speaking sharpening experts in our team. But UA-cam offers subtitles in your browser if you click on the gear-icon.
Stay sharp!
When will this be available in USA??
Hej Jim,
the availability can vary for different sellers. You best check with them. We hope that all have the jig for sale in mid / end of June!
Stay sharp!
Tanja form Tormek
Come acquistare questo dispositivo grazie.
Google translate:
Ecco un elenco dei rivenditori italiani: www.tormek.com/italy/it/rivenditori/
Contatta quello che preferisci e chiedi se ha in magazzino o se può ordinarlo per te :)
Here is a list of italian resellers: www.tormek.com/italy/it/rivenditori/
Contact the one you prefer and ask if they have in stock or if they can order it for you :)
Hi sir i am from India how can baying this machine
i whant this machine sir
Hej Vimal, please check our web page for a retailer near you, we have at the moment no retailer in India. Check with the German retailer Dictum, they're shipping internationally. /Wolfgang
The kj 45 has problems, first the lock down non hits the post, second it's plastic and somewhat flexable
Hello.. please please please I have told you many times I need lessons in Arabic language I'm talking from Lebanon.my brother send to me tormek T8 from UK but I can't understand everything.thank you
Hej user-qi9zw2ot4d,at the moment we have no possibilitiesto have lessons in Arabic, but UA-cam has a automatic translation function. This may help you.
Could not hear first 5 minutes of Wolfgang
Unfortunately there was an issue with Wolfgangs microphone in the beginning. That is what can happen in a live class.
Stay sharp
one step forward and two back. maybe stop eating mushrooms and hire an engineer instead of marketers?
We are sorry to hear that you did not like the video. We can assure you that Wolfgang and Sebastien are experts in the area of sharpening!
@@TormekSharpening if I have 50 knives sharpened. five clamps. but all knives are different widths. How much time will I lose by resetting the vertical support for each knife?
Solving nonexistent problems only incels on Reddit care about with plastic. Cool.