How Arming Ukraine Exposed Cracks in the U.S. Defense Supply Chain | WSJ

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  • The inability of U.S. defense contractors to quickly replenish weaponry such as missiles and munitions for Ukraine has raised questions about the capability of America’s defense industry and led Pentagon officials to argue that industry consolidation has gone too far.
    Illustration: Adele Morgan
    0:00 The U.S. defense sector is facing supply chain issues
    1:34 Why can’t the U.S arm Ukrainians faster?
    4:15 How American supply chains weren’t prepared for the Ukraine War
    6:50 Can a merger of two large contractors aid in the production of Javelins?
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  • @wsj
    @wsj  11 місяців тому +8

    The Wagner Group has become the face of the Russian assault in Ukraine.
    Our documentary, Shadow Men: Inside Russia’s Secret War Company reveals how the Russian private military company hides the flow of riches and resources that ultimately connect to the Kremlin: ua-cam.com/video/EMXnJMCoFYI/v-deo.html

  • @stevenobrien3722
    @stevenobrien3722 Рік тому +1146

    It’s actually really scary stuff when you realize that we went from over 50 primary contractors down to only five. It’s very similar to what happened in the baby formula industry when there was really only one supplier left and we ran out of baby formula nationwide. Very risky stuff.

    • @OlafRooster
      @OlafRooster Рік тому +16

      But wasnt that exactly what you voted for

    • @buddhasdisciple4935
      @buddhasdisciple4935 Рік тому +7

      If you had a cow, its milk could feed your baby too ! No need to depend on ANY industrial supplier or any baby formula !!

    • @yfelwulf
      @yfelwulf Рік тому

      50% of Javlin and Stingers have failed to work fact is THE US Army admits trained US troops get around 19% hits not kills hits making Javlin near useless the M777 Artillery has been slammed by Ukraine as poor quality and breaks down daily in fact Ukraine claims ALL RUSSIAN MADE WEAPONS ARE SUPERIOR TO US MADE. The problem with Israelistan 🇺🇲 is weapons are produced to mskr money the 60% functionality allowed means weapons as long as they work 60% of the time its ACCEPTABLE the B35 Kamakhazi barely makes 54% line ready full of faults the F22 Craptor is even worse. Israelistan has not produced a working weapon in over 2 decades Zumwalt destroyers 23 billion absolutely useless. Patriot last seen attacking its own launch site. Iron Dome thrown away as completely useless and on it goes.

    • @volvo24091
      @volvo24091 Рік тому +12

      It is called the end of empire.

    • @Ben-rz9cf
      @Ben-rz9cf Рік тому +41

      Monopolies are bad for everyone, including the monopolies. Its not about increasing wealth, its about consolidating power.

  • @nickgardner1408
    @nickgardner1408 Рік тому +375

    To be fair, it made sense at the time. If it wasn't for the Russians invading Ukraine, all of those Javelins would be collecting dust in an armory somewhere and you'd have politicians crying about wasteful defense spending. You really can't win the supply game 100% of the time.

    • @jd190d
      @jd190d Рік тому +33

      So we have a war where we are not being attacked. We are learning our shortcomings and we need to work to fix that. We are increasing production on a variety of arms to supply Ukraine and replenish our stock of arms. This doesn't seem like a catastrophe. Also, How much of a stock does China have?

    • @jd190d
      @jd190d Рік тому

      @@nickgardner1408 How many years do you think that will be for Russia to win, they are busy using their bodies to absorb Ukrainian bullets and they don't have an infinite supply of people.

    • @GuntherRommel
      @GuntherRommel Рік тому +33

      @@jd190d Exactly. This is *exactly* what the USA needed, in terms of home defense preparedness. It's exposing all of the weaknesses in the system that have developed since the end of WW2.

    • @rhysioeren3203
      @rhysioeren3203 Рік тому +13

      Glad the war is serving its purpose then to put all those bad boys in action, and also to give a few very fortunate people the opportunity to put on some extra cash by manufacturing more of them. Everything is going great.

    • @jd190d
      @jd190d Рік тому +14

      @@rhysioeren3203 It truly is wonderful. It's like a soft warm blanket of happytime.

  • @codedlogic
    @codedlogic Рік тому +1007

    Corporate Tool: "Consolidation has left our industry inflexible and lacking innovation."
    Reporter: What can be done?
    Corporate Tool: "We need to consolidate more."

    • @shuki1
      @shuki1 Рік тому +18

      OMG, so true.

    • @falcon127
      @falcon127 Рік тому +13

      Corporate Tool: "Consolidation has left our industry inflexible and lacking innovation." TRUE! TRUE! TRUE!

    • @shuki1
      @shuki1 Рік тому

      @@navamsinna8492 Ukraine was/is a backwards and corrupt almost third world country then and now. A lot of infrastructure has been destroyed and will need years and tons of money to rebuild. The Ukraine does not control Europe....

    • @anelnunez126
      @anelnunez126 Рік тому

      Ha.ha..

    • @Beyonder1987
      @Beyonder1987 Рік тому +6

      Its not innovation. Clearly US weapons tech has made a difference for Ukraine against a lot bigger army. It’s industry conciliation the reason the problem exists now

  • @MrBelmont79
    @MrBelmont79 Рік тому +373

    Not just in the defense industry. Apple, google, and meta control basically the internet in the USA. General Foods, Nestle and Kimberly and Clark control our food isles in the supermarkets. Oil is basically controlled by 4 major companies….and so on. Whenever a new company comes with something new or cheaper, it’s swallowed by a bigger company to eliminate it as a competitor. Truly sad times for our economic future and well being ✋🏻

    • @vitaminc2161
      @vitaminc2161 Рік тому +11

      competition is needed when there is market and high demand situation which except in this case it is war. nobody wants war.

    • @raylopez99
      @raylopez99 Рік тому +1

      Substitutes: eat more oats for example. But harder to do with specialized hardware.

    • @cliff311976
      @cliff311976 Рік тому

      ​@@vitaminc2161 that's why Americunt warmongers create illegal wars

    • @leperabbot3343
      @leperabbot3343 Рік тому +8

      just capitalism working as intended

    • @bakenumber4
      @bakenumber4 Рік тому

      Is it true America's meat packing industry is completely owned and operated by the Chinese? And no

  • @TenzikTens
    @TenzikTens Рік тому +177

    Infantry wins battles, logistics wins wars. -Gen. Pershing

  • @Ironpancakemoose
    @Ironpancakemoose Рік тому +649

    Every protracted war that has occurred after a long time of peace has shown massive supply issues. Like munition consumption during the Russo Japanese war, Artillery consumption during WW1. Its impossibly to have a cutting edge military, and retain the manufacturing capability to rapidly supply the army incase of a massive war.

    • @psilobom
      @psilobom Рік тому +54

      In fact, the US Military Industrial Complex, was paid for and funded by our European Allies who were desperate to outpace the Germans. They agreed to pay nearly all the costs for US manufacturers to either switch their factories to making munitions, or to outright build them from scratch, as long as they could promise to deliver guns or shells.
      Anyone working in the US automotive industry can also tell you, our nations industrial plants still have plans in effect to switch into army and tank production. It's unlikely we'll get to that point unless a full scale war breaks out between NATO and Russia.

    • @ardenb2912
      @ardenb2912 Рік тому +10

      Russia have yet to use it's modern weapons and doesn't look like they need too, the US and NATO are just too weak. Russia is not using their military or new weapons, they are using PMC Wagner with weapons from the 1960s-1970s ..

    • @marielle5893
      @marielle5893 Рік тому

      @ Mooseman Don't forget the nukes. If Putin has nothing to lose. He will use them at his age. This is called EGO and PRIDE.
      And there are enough morons that will help him. There are also bodyguards that will give there lives for 'leaders'. I would never do that.
      And everyday people are losing there life on the battlefield. Alive today. Dead tomorrow.
      I predict the big boom.
      If he is out of weapons... he will use them. 100% sure. Next stage beyond threatening to use them. A new point in history.
      Disaster or succes. The only way for a big EGO
      WW4 is the one we fight with throwing stones again.

    • @modenasolone
      @modenasolone Рік тому +18

      The fact is the United States hasn't had a long time of peace. Our military industries have been cranking out weaponry non-stop for over 50 years for the various misadventures we have around the world big and small

    • @Macbrother
      @Macbrother Рік тому +84

      @@ardenb2912 Mighty Russia cannot conquer a single oblast in Ukraine. Sit down.

  • @kingace6186
    @kingace6186 Рік тому +51

    I hate to oversimplify this, but Eisenhower did warn us to keep a close eye on all the effects the continually-evolving military-industrial complex could have on the efficiency of a war effort.

    • @marchofstetter8313
      @marchofstetter8313 Рік тому

      And shortly after that they wacked JFK for not wanting Vietnam

    • @kolinmartz
      @kolinmartz Рік тому

      You mean the same speech where he said that the existence of which is necessary for any war effort and maintaining peace?

    • @crystalaquatica6402
      @crystalaquatica6402 Рік тому

      It wasn't about the efficiency of a war effort, dude. It's much bigger than that

  • @VitoDepho
    @VitoDepho Рік тому +35

    It can be argued the US would've used far fewer Javelins in the first place. Ukraine has burned through a lot of Javelins because their infantry have had to use it extensively against tanks and IFVs because they were initially dominated in the field. A massive war machine like the US fighting Russia or China (let's assume it's "only" a conventional war for this scenario) would've used its air force, carrier aircraft if they're within range, attack helicopters, ground-attack missiles, then its rocket artillery, field artillery, tanks, IFVs, and so on even before its infantry got to use their Javelins against any remaining enemy armor.

    • @kimberleemodel7182
      @kimberleemodel7182 Рік тому +6

      They did mention projections and simulations on a conflict in the taiwan straight, so sure there would be a greater diversity of weapons systems to draw from, but the more sophisticated air and naval systems are likely the ones to run out first.

    • @Wick9876
      @Wick9876 Рік тому +1

      @@kimberleemodel7182 Although how they can run out of munitions in a week when they probably can't get them near Taiwan by then has me puzzled. Also *strait for the nautical kind. .

    • @taras4412
      @taras4412 Рік тому +4

      Jawelin here is just used as an example of a modern weapon that can't be produced fast enough, to expose supply chain issues. Same problems are applied to other weapon systems USA produces.

  • @Hydrazine1000
    @Hydrazine1000 Рік тому +105

    OOOPS! The first 3 launches in the intro are actually NLAWs, not Javelins! Javelins have a big black foam piece at the rear. Saab's NLAW has a similar shaped piece _at the front_ of the launcher.

    • @onerimeuse
      @onerimeuse Рік тому +5

      Mmmmm semantics. Excellent attention to detail, fellow youtube commentsection mosh pit participant. Props

    • @SvPVids
      @SvPVids Рік тому +9

      They were also showing artillery munitions while talking about Javelin production, the author hasnt a clue about arms but is talking about them.

    • @yfelwulf
      @yfelwulf Рік тому

      50% of Javlin and Stingers have failed to work fact is THE US Army admits trained US troops get around 19% hits not kills hits making Javlin near useless the M777 Artillery has been slammed by Ukraine as poor quality and breaks down daily in fact Ukraine claims ALL RUSSIAN MADE WEAPONS ARE SUPERIOR TO US MADE. The problem with Israelistan 🇺🇲 is weapons are produced to mskr money the 60% functionality allowed means weapons as long as they work 60% of the time its ACCEPTABLE the B35 Kamakhazi barely makes 54% line ready full of faults the F22 Craptor is even worse. Israelistan has not produced a working weapon in over 2 decades Zumwalt destroyers 23 billion absolutely useless. Patriot last seen attacking its own launch site. Iron Dome thrown away as completely useless and on it goes.

    • @Hydrazine1000
      @Hydrazine1000 Рік тому

      @@yfelwulf Sorry, color me sceptical. If you can be so kind, please provide a few non-biased _credible_ sources to your claims.

    • @Hydrazine1000
      @Hydrazine1000 Рік тому

      @@SvPVids That would make some sense, if they talk about US supply chain limitations more generally, where munition production overall has difficulties scaling up.

  • @walex5462
    @walex5462 Рік тому +220

    I find it interesting that they always quote defense budgets of nations, but rarely take into account the difference of costs per nation. Example US vs China where costs of inputs (materials, wages, etc) are very different. I would like to see this done with these factors taken into account to give a true analysis.

    • @definitelynosebreather
      @definitelynosebreather Рік тому +11

      Good point.

    • @richardchristie1293
      @richardchristie1293 Рік тому +32

      Might I suggest Perun. In a few of his videos he's covered SIPRI & Purchasing power parity. Here's one he did focusing on China;
      ua-cam.com/video/mH5TlcMo_m4/v-deo.html

    • @htleong4790
      @htleong4790 Рік тому +7

      if details are shown, probably details will also show the huge amount of skimming off by . ...

    • @watershed8685
      @watershed8685 Рік тому +4

      Not to mention that actually some parts of Chinese and Russian military expenditure are classified or disguised

    • @EricLing64
      @EricLing64 Рік тому +1

      @@watershed8685 Russian expenditures were stolen, wouldn't be surprised if much of China's are as well. Some of the US too I wouldn't doubt, but I think the accountants for those big weapons manufacturers would quite possibly assassinate anyone who tries to steal from their contracts. Well perhaps not real assassination but career killer and such.

  • @midnightflare9879
    @midnightflare9879 Рік тому +10

    I say it's a good thing. Being able to test and refine your supply chain in peacetime is still better than spotting the cracks after declaring a wartime economy.

  • @N17C1
    @N17C1 Рік тому +8

    So, all us military logisticians knew 'just in time' logistics had no redundancy or robustness. First major war and it comes tumbling down. To give the US and Europe credit, they were not expecting to fight or support a prolonged conventional war. But it shows that local industry is critical to any country's national security.

  • @judejohnson6336
    @judejohnson6336 Рік тому +13

    In my opinion it’s a good thing that we’re seeing this stuff now. Imagine if we got into a sudden conflict and our industry was this unprepared.

    • @rosevitelli5814
      @rosevitelli5814 11 місяців тому

      There is conflict coming fast because we are telling China hit them now how stupid is the media

    • @BosonCollider
      @BosonCollider 11 місяців тому

      It's a repeat of Lend-Lease preparing the US for WWII

  • @maineusaMax
    @maineusaMax Рік тому +33

    Would it have been "fiscally responsible," to produce at this scale before the war? We barely have workers for most businesses, nevermind supply chains. Stopping good people from coming here to get an education, and WORK is a national security issue. I never hear the WSJ worrying about that.

    • @chrisd9700
      @chrisd9700 Рік тому +8

      Thats one of the big downsides of the anti-immigration movement, it severely impacts the long term economic growth and production of the US economy

    • @Filmfist
      @Filmfist Рік тому

      Wsj is owned by rupert Murdoch so not a surprise

    • @kimberleemodel7182
      @kimberleemodel7182 Рік тому +1

      A hundred years ago, the US had factories which could switch from consumer goods to militry goods in a matter of months. That isn't the case before. In part because there aren't that many domestic factories and in part because military goods are far more complex than they were 100yrs ago.

    • @squidwardo7074
      @squidwardo7074 Рік тому

      @@chrisd9700 and without automation who's gonna work in mcdonalds

    • @flyingrat492
      @flyingrat492 11 місяців тому

      @@kimberleemodel7182 and a hundred years ago there was unregulated immigration to the US. Not to sound to Machiavellian but frankly immigrants have always done hard and underpaid jobs in the history of the US and the idea they’re stealing anything is just plain stupid, i don’t think any American to annoyed missing out on the opportunity to clean hotels or do yard work for under minimum wage

  • @3.2Carrera
    @3.2Carrera Рік тому +172

    Anyone who's been in business the last 20 years sees exactly why we're having supply chain issues. While DoD requirements differ obviously unregulated consumer manufacturing has almost completely gone overseas in the past 25 years. We've seen US manufacturing in past conflicts make incredible changes turning things 180 degrees like switching car production to tanks and typewriter factories to rifles for example. There's a small fraction of production capability that we once had for low tech weaponry, let alone anything high tech. I also thought it unwise that US govt in previous administrators went after firearm manufacturers- the same ones that produced the arsenal that won WWI and WWII. When we need them, it's of the upmost importance, but as we've seen when we don't they can be discarded quite easily.

    • @spicychad55
      @spicychad55 Рік тому +15

      Firearms are just a minor tool, they've never really won wars. Cannons,bombs, nukes, missiles, jet, helicopter and intelligence collection are more efficient at damaging the enemies.

    • @rgddydshevchenko2448
      @rgddydshevchenko2448 Рік тому +12

      ​@@spicychad55 Gee, I wonder what that intelligence, artillery, and those vehicles are meant to support...

    • @Pyroteq
      @Pyroteq Рік тому

      Yup... And who did we give all that manufacturing power too? China... Our biggest threat. So in the event of a war the USA has basically no way of ramping up production rapidly, meanwhile China will be able to do what the USA did in WW2 on a 100x bigger scale.
      In other words, the boomers that sold our factories overseas so they could make slightly more profit at the expense of their countrymen are traitors and should be treated as such.

    • @3.2Carrera
      @3.2Carrera Рік тому +1

      @@spicychad55 Point taken but that was just one example on small arms.

    • @N17C1
      @N17C1 Рік тому +6

      The US actually has quite a good ammunition (including artillery) manufacturing capability. It can scale up reasonably well and has fairly modern manufacturing methods. What the US (and every other country) struggle with are the high tech weapons and other systems that rely on the global supply chain for components.

  • @dccprime1
    @dccprime1 Рік тому +116

    Ok, this was a good video overall, but I gotta be a stickler about it. They keep talking about Javs but they put up images and videos of both Javelin missile launchers and NLAW launchers. They are VERY MUCH not the same, even as they are rather similar.

    • @conorsheridan2998
      @conorsheridan2998 Рік тому +8

      Haha thank you!!!! It was bugging me all vid lol

    • @sballantine8127
      @sballantine8127 Рік тому

      The point of the article was the typewritten copy, not the pictures.

    • @citizen3000
      @citizen3000 Рік тому

      Nobody cares. You can scuttle back to Reddit and touch yourself while thinking about weapons there.

    • @Kenneth_James
      @Kenneth_James Рік тому +4

      These WSJ videos on military matters are generally under researched and full of assumptions

    • @falcon127
      @falcon127 Рік тому +3

      THEY ARE REPORTERS!

  • @user-wr4yl7tx3w
    @user-wr4yl7tx3w Рік тому +41

    Are those regulators who approved the merger now working for the companies with nice salaries?

    • @falcon127
      @falcon127 Рік тому +3

      YES! AND CHINA TOO.

    • @luismigueldelgado-sm9qw
      @luismigueldelgado-sm9qw Рік тому

      but its not easy, lots of legal guidelines and governmental oversight .... they will earn that wage

  • @devabratadixit303
    @devabratadixit303 Рік тому +128

    Mass production is key to victory in any war, with probability of minor conflicts increasing in near future small arms production will be a key part of settling issues.

    • @PHOBOS1708
      @PHOBOS1708 Рік тому +5

      information is key to victory in any war. if you win a war, before there is a war, this is the real victory!

    • @walex5462
      @walex5462 Рік тому +3

      The problem in cases like this is production is based on orders (demand) in states where defense is private. Countries like china and russia can increase production more quickly because the industries are state owned

    • @richardkroll2269
      @richardkroll2269 Рік тому

      Great. Right now we are planning to issue new infantry weapons firing the 6.8 cartridge. So how will we interface with NATO having forced the 5.56 on them. One foot on the dock and one foot in the canoe.

    • @chrisd9700
      @chrisd9700 Рік тому +1

      @@walex5462 You've forgotten about the Defense Production Act that allows the US Govt to nationalize production during times of emergency. It was just used as recently as 2020 to compel manufacturers to ramp up production of ventilators and masks during the pandemic

    • @TheMsdos25
      @TheMsdos25 Рік тому

      @@chrisd9700 The problem is that 277 sig fury (6.8) cartridge is a completely novel design. I think ammo producers will have to overhaul their production lines to make it. Plus no one else in NATO uses it. We'll probably be sticking with the m4 for a good while longer.

  • @bigj1905
    @bigj1905 Рік тому +60

    One thing WSJ fails to take into account is that the U.S didn’t need to produce a lot of equipment that Ukraine needs, because conventional conflicts in the Middle East were over quickly.
    So troops didn’t really need things like Javelins or Artillery, because they wouldn’t be useful against the types of enemies they were fighting. Combined with American logistics and maintenance being relatively good, few troops were losing equipment.

    • @theprinceofpie
      @theprinceofpie Рік тому

      Yes, the US has had air supremacy in every war since the 1950's. It's not really surprising that the US isn't prepared for a long term WW2 style war when an airstrike can do the same thing far safer.

    • @npc2480
      @npc2480 Рік тому +12

      And also a war between the US against a nuclear power would make these conventional weapons a moot point. This news video seems like an ad to increase our military budget again.

    • @far_centrist
      @far_centrist Рік тому

      ​@@npc2480 i think you are on to something! Let's see who funded states media for the past few years... Oh sh-

    • @shulovic
      @shulovic Рік тому +3

      @@npc2480 problem is that US in proxy war vs nuclear power (russia) and cant provide enough conventional weapons

    • @npc2480
      @npc2480 Рік тому +2

      @@shulovic well who asked the US to get into a proxy war with Russia? The problem the US has is its own doing.

  • @showcaseSampa
    @showcaseSampa Рік тому +9

    That consolidation started around when Bush Senior was in Office.
    I remember that. They were commiserating the fact consolidation was the tall order, and a lot of M&A deals took place then.
    Martin Marietta became Lockheed Martin or something like that.
    By the time Reagan was in office, 9 out of 10 well paying Engineering jobs came from Defense. No security clearance, no job. I was then a Green Card Holder, and going through College. The glossy hiring book for companies doing DoD contracting work might've been 200 pages thick.
    Come to think of, all of the money made then wouldn't be worth . I remember interviewing for a job for a manufacturer of shrapnel projectiles in Concord MA, and the shop foreman was describing what the product did. I put some effort in keeping a straight face, but something might've surface the foreman could read on me.
    I am at peace not getting those well paying jobs. | sleep like a baby.

  • @johannjohann6523
    @johannjohann6523 Рік тому +17

    I've thought the same thing about the consolidation of America's defense contractors. Though not a "military expert", I am an accountant with considerable supply chain experience. And "just in time" supply chain manufacturing is not necessarily a good thing for defense contractors like it is in the auto industry.

    • @TheMsdos25
      @TheMsdos25 Рік тому

      Given the recent new car shortages I'm not sure if it's good for the auto industry either.

    • @jossland1628
      @jossland1628 11 місяців тому

      @@TheMsdos25 It isn't. Ironically, the originator of the 'just in time' paradigm changed back into stockpiling parts during Covid, and did much better than their competitors.

  • @thomasg6400
    @thomasg6400 Рік тому +5

    We definitely don’t spend enough on DoD contracts😅

  • @messagesystem333
    @messagesystem333 Рік тому +9

    Just in time delivery is a problem in all sectors.

  • @ramal5708
    @ramal5708 Рік тому +3

    I honestly learned about Javelin ATGM from Call of Duty 4 during the mission "The Bog", ah yesss great times and top 3 best Call of Duty

  • @greatmartini1
    @greatmartini1 Рік тому +20

    The fewer manufacturers equals higher prices. When you have no other choices you pay what ever price they give you.

    • @firasajoury7813
      @firasajoury7813 Рік тому +1

      Capitalism at its finest

    • @Ningen18
      @Ningen18 Рік тому +2

      @@firasajoury7813 It's actually Corporatism at its finest

    • @supermega10453
      @supermega10453 Рік тому

      @@Ningen18 Semantics at its finest.

    • @thearbiter9308
      @thearbiter9308 2 місяці тому

      @@supermega10453 not semantics, corporatism.

  • @bambisquad7896
    @bambisquad7896 Рік тому +8

    I mean we arent relying on javelins to take out tanks, just the ability to if necessary. Every next war will entirely rely on air superiority and SEAD missions

  • @phoreal22
    @phoreal22 Рік тому +14

    One day it's too much defence industry now it's not enough

    • @mayanksingh0044
      @mayanksingh0044 Рік тому +3

      u have to understand that war is won by military industrial complex asks the russians, they are struggling to find the components and key semicounductors and many more. in war time u can convert civil industry to make war stuff but for that u need the industrial scale and it would be still inferior to defence industrial complex. Russians have heavy artilerry sitting in russian not at border both logistics and maintaninace is absolute key. USA is still very storng in these departments when it comes to protect usa or its nato allies but same cant be said when for other countries

  • @thoma5peter5en
    @thoma5peter5en Рік тому

    Great insight 👍
    * why the "Analysing in background" banner at little over half way through the video?

  • @mmurfur
    @mmurfur Рік тому +36

    wsj frames this as a lagging supply chain story, rather than a story about ramping up supply chains for the protracted proxy wars with china to come

    • @mikemcd
      @mikemcd Рік тому +1

      Hail president Kamala!

    • @modenasolone
      @modenasolone Рік тому

      It's comming

    • @fuckedupbody4194
      @fuckedupbody4194 Рік тому

      Even then, what not mentioned is chinas or russias ability to draw upon N. Korea vast stockpiles. Given how the nation is starved, it wouldn't be too far fetched or too far from reality to trade food for arms. China has vast warehouses of old Soviet era weapon systems and their munitions. They might be old but if it can still kill you then its still effective.
      Another thing thats not mentioned is Chinas ability to massively ramp up military production. There are factories all across the country that can produce items quickly and cheaply, which if you're fighting a drawn out war is a major plus.

    • @user-gc1hg9sp9k
      @user-gc1hg9sp9k Рік тому +1

      if US can't even mass produce weapon like javelin, then how US can mass produce missile, cruise missile, and ship againts china?

    • @fuckedupbody4194
      @fuckedupbody4194 Рік тому

      @@user-gc1hg9sp9k Its due to the destructive capability of each weapon system. If each cruise missile, anti-ship missile, torpedo can sink a ship then the US is already winning as the US has a greater stockpile of said munitions than there are ships crewed by the USN and PLAN combined but the same can be said for China's anti ship weapon systems. However and this is a big however, the US can't even field half of its commissioned ships as of now. Usually half of them are doing refits, dry docks, training or repairs which puts them out of action. Yes they can go all hands on deck and get the ships back out to sea but while they are waiting, they can be hit by ICBMs, antiship missiles, torpedoes, etc.

  • @harrymu148
    @harrymu148 Рік тому +5

    I thought the point of a defense department was to maintain a force that can take on any adversary?

  • @firecrow7973
    @firecrow7973 Рік тому +1

    I like how the javelina and the warthog are both tank destroyers

  • @swayzakjoe7347
    @swayzakjoe7347 Рік тому +1

    I like how they totally evaded the word "MONOPOLY"

  • @organizedchaos4559
    @organizedchaos4559 Рік тому +4

    I think the main problem is consolidation and monopolies

  • @vinces.5523
    @vinces.5523 Рік тому

    This is eye opening!

  • @GlennSchmelzle
    @GlennSchmelzle Рік тому

    Informative, though an editing mistake appears at 4:39: 'Analyzing in background'

  • @37061044
    @37061044 Рік тому +5

    Quality reporting

  • @mstitcher
    @mstitcher Рік тому

    Good report, interesting to remember the old work place and program

  • @coalescententity6651
    @coalescententity6651 11 місяців тому

    Well that's moderately terrifying.

  • @user-qh9vv8mp6n
    @user-qh9vv8mp6n Рік тому +3

    Anyone surprised by WSJ showing NLAW launches while talking about the Javelin?

  • @stevenobrien3722
    @stevenobrien3722 Рік тому +14

    This is really all very good news. It’s so much better to get this fixed now then during wartime for us.

    • @JohnSmith-vn8dm
      @JohnSmith-vn8dm Рік тому

      Its not good news because we've already totally emptied our stocks of Javelins and Stingers which Taiwan needed yesterday. Their orders are backlogged to the late 2020s when we might be in a war by 2027.

  • @dindrockstar
    @dindrockstar 11 місяців тому +1

    What are you analysing in the background at 4:37?

  • @Muzeishen
    @Muzeishen Рік тому

    That subliminal flash at 4:38 says “Analyzing in background.”

  • @nickmail7604
    @nickmail7604 Рік тому +3

    The more complex a weapon system is the harder it is to raise production because to build new and complex production lines and then train up new operators takes both time and money

    • @kolinmartz
      @kolinmartz Рік тому +1

      It’s not even that. It’s the fact that proprietary tech and manufacturing practices are closely guarded. There’s little provisions for other industries that are theoretically capable of manufacturing those subsystems to be contracted out.

  • @kwatt-engineer796
    @kwatt-engineer796 Рік тому +12

    This is what is sometimes called "a cheap lesson". The benefit to the US is that we aren't in a direct hot war with a near peer adversary. We now have some time to fix the problem.

    • @markhylis9561
      @markhylis9561 Рік тому

      I agree

    • @LeTrashPanda
      @LeTrashPanda Рік тому

      And other countries to lean on to lighten the load in the meantime. As a vet, I'm fascinated & appreciative of how many nations have come together in an emergency, it's really something unique and incredible to see. So much for thinking the west couldn't pull it off as a group mission, we've done very well considering there was no plan in place for such an event.

    • @npc2480
      @npc2480 Рік тому

      A war with a near peer will be nuclear which will make these conventional weapons meaningless.

  • @johannjohann6523
    @johannjohann6523 Рік тому +2

    For a "healthy" free market economy, it needs competition!

  • @determinedlyunmotivated4300

    Great video!

  • @larrydickman5936
    @larrydickman5936 Рік тому +3

    Regardless of cracks in the system, you have to admit post 9/11, the forever wars are the gift that keeps on giving if you're the defence industry.

  • @rosemariebredahl9519
    @rosemariebredahl9519 Рік тому +4

    Perhaps defense contracts should always include building redundant machinery, tools, and other equipment for production lines AND warehousing components, hardware, and all materials necessary for the type of quick a sudden large war might require in case the U.S. suddenly needs more (?).

    • @Andrew--S
      @Andrew--S Рік тому +3

      We can't stockpile talented workers who know how to make a Javelin. Only so many people can be asked to come back out of retirement. Training good workers to make complex weapons can take a while. 4:12 is one example of the work environment.
      Perhaps the military can have reserve jobs just for manufacturing. I wouldn't mind re-enlisting for that if there was no height/weight requirements.

    • @Evan-cf5xe
      @Evan-cf5xe Рік тому +3

      In past wars, other industries were retooled to make weapons and ammo. We saw this recently with many small companies "retooling" to make masks and hand sanitizer to fight covid. The problem is that we have sent most of our industry to other countries and continents, because we wanted to have a "service economy", so there aren't really any factories to retool.

  • @erosenbauer3435
    @erosenbauer3435 Рік тому

    4:36 That blip says "Analyzing In Background"... You're welcome

  • @lagoonlane
    @lagoonlane Рік тому

    Excellent stuff.

  • @davidbias2509
    @davidbias2509 Рік тому +3

    Break up the monopolies.

  • @MarkM001
    @MarkM001 Рік тому +3

    There is a lot to consider here. I understand Warren's position but a heightened base of specific manufacture increases security risk. But a heightened base of manufacture also increases opportunity for innovation. These are opposed. I wonder if in designing advanced weaponry the ability to quickly increase production is considered at all and if making manufacture scalable shouldn't be part of the criteria. Maybe it's that simple.

    • @Andrew-is3ld
      @Andrew-is3ld Рік тому +1

      Monopolies are on the rise in every major sector today. I'm thankful for Warren's voice, but she's been pointing out the dangers this trend clearly for years now, how do we get other politicians to care?

    • @MarkM001
      @MarkM001 Рік тому

      @@Andrew-is3ld So has Klobuchar. The questions I have just concerns the defense industry. I don't know if it should be treated separately from other industries but doing so would not be without precedent. For me, your point about other industries is certainly valid though. I have not idea, except to vote in other politicians; of how to get politicians to face thorny unsexy issues that can't be captured in a highly charged sound bite.

  • @Ornitorincoalbino
    @Ornitorincoalbino Рік тому

    What's the "analyzing in background" flashing on screen at 4:38 ?

  • @brigbeets5317
    @brigbeets5317 Рік тому +1

    Someone forgot to remove that 4:38

  • @dotsmassacre
    @dotsmassacre Рік тому +3

    Suppliers not only have a citizen's duty to resist radical exaggerations of the need to arm both the government and potentially other governments but a moral duty to act as a brake on drastic expansions of various components of military industrial production as it relates to unjustifiable expansion of the military capacity of the state in spite of real-world conditions. The state should not be underwritten by the strength of military industrial production and to account the industry should not become accomplice to radical schemes by various governments or entities within them from time to time to attempt to stimulate affairs or even the economy with military industrial production. That would be irascible and fundamentally irresponsible.

  • @VVVV-yr4tp
    @VVVV-yr4tp Рік тому +6

    lets hope china doesn't see this video...

  • @Zaaxun
    @Zaaxun Рік тому +1

    Good to expose it, now they can work on fixing it.

  • @lyn-jhonosia8981
    @lyn-jhonosia8981 Рік тому

    That was pretty alarming

  • @archillominadze3055
    @archillominadze3055 Рік тому +3

    Every supplier of weapons must have their assembly lines and trainer stuff preserved until the particular weapon remains in service of an army in order to ensure steady supply when army stocks begin to shrink.

    • @GintaPPE1000
      @GintaPPE1000 Рік тому

      That's all very easy to say until you see the bill for keeping specialized production lines open and skilled workers on the job. Consolidation happened in the first place because the US public didn't want to pay that price through MIC subsidies.

  • @michaelyun2407
    @michaelyun2407 Рік тому +10

    Another issue the video did not bring up is that unlike regular business that can sell good to any counties or business as long as it is allowed, we don't want that to happen for milliary supply company. I mean jut think if Russia or China or Iran is able to buy the f35 or some high tech weapons from US military company. It will be very bad.
    I think that's one of the reason why military contact is very expensive not only to cover for R&D but also have an exclusive Claus that you can't sell to certainly companies or counties but to keep your company a float and keep making these military equipment we will pay you more.

  • @luismigueldelgado-sm9qw
    @luismigueldelgado-sm9qw Рік тому

    the large explosive warhead and accurate targeting system is what makes this very potent .... hand fired

  • @TofuBoi_
    @TofuBoi_ Рік тому

    It's good that we are aware of this issue. Now let's get to fix it!

  • @walli6388
    @walli6388 Рік тому +2

    Better now than later when they are directly involved in a war.

  • @mrmelmba
    @mrmelmba Рік тому +3

    Russian tanks face German tanks in combat once again. Germany is renowned for its high quality manufacturing, yet has extreme difficulty comprehending a simple concept-assuming that it is even able to learn at all-and is making the same mistake all over again.

    Superior equipment, first class training, unparalleled discipline. What could possibly go wrong? This time?

    Perhaps, one of us ought to let them know.

  • @stizanley3987
    @stizanley3987 Рік тому +1

    The Military Industrial Complex is 5 companies, wow.

  • @Tubueller
    @Tubueller Рік тому

    4:38 so do you guys Screen record the video an upload it besides actually rendering and exporting to save time?

  • @user-kt8yp5ho2y
    @user-kt8yp5ho2y Рік тому +4

    I’m so surprised that the Wall Street Journal telling the truth now even though it’s too late to tell to the public. 😂😂😂😂

  • @N17C1
    @N17C1 Рік тому +3

    It would be interesting if the US govt banned further mergers or purchases of smaller companies. Instead, larger companies could invest up to 49% in smaller companies. This would either see more investment in smaller manufacturers (and thereby support innovation) or the larger companies would spend the money on R&D to try and compete with the innovation of smaller companies.

  • @retropotatoe
    @retropotatoe Рік тому

    "THISSSSS" 0:02

  • @michaelashby9654
    @michaelashby9654 Рік тому +1

    You don't become a world leader of post-industrial homelessness, drug addiction, broken families, and failing infrastructure like US is without this type of spending.

  • @ahgoon69er
    @ahgoon69er Рік тому +7

    Alternate title for this video: how we can feed more money to the war machine

  • @trust.me.i.am.an.engineer
    @trust.me.i.am.an.engineer Рік тому +13

    I'm Ukrainian from Donetsk. I'm grateful to the American people and the American government for helping Ukraine. The Javelin is an excellent weapon, it helps us a lot in the fight against Russian fascists. God bless America!

  • @youcantata
    @youcantata Рік тому +6

    Why not take advantage of industrial capacity of friendly countries of US like South Korea, Japan and Germany. They will be happily obliged to supply components for Javelin or other high-tech munitions. They are already producing similar weapon systems and have industrial skill and infrastructure to supply. Having extra qualified supplier will encourage more competition and more extra production capacity on demand or emergency. South Korean arms industry have good capacity, quality and price for many legacy and modern weapons.

    • @yusm
      @yusm Рік тому

      Did you not listen, conventional war is a war of industrial base. US is already trying to destroy china industrial base, to keep it as a manufacturer of tchotchkes. Why would they shore up their client nations.

    • @whitemailprivilege2830
      @whitemailprivilege2830 Рік тому +1

      Japan? Have you forgotten the attack on Pearl Harbor?

    • @breaknfiction21
      @breaknfiction21 Рік тому +2

      @@whitemailprivilege2830 are you a time traveler from 1940s? Japan is one of America’s most important military allies.

  • @illusivec
    @illusivec Рік тому

    If you're also wondering what that was at 4:38, it says "Analyzing in background". Wonder what that is.

  • @WilsonRidge
    @WilsonRidge 11 місяців тому

    4:38 weird glitch says "analyzing in background"

  • @Flipflop437
    @Flipflop437 Рік тому +5

    We need to decide whether the defense industry is for the American people, or for shareholders of the defense industry

  • @jeffsiegwart
    @jeffsiegwart Рік тому +4

    Get on it Congress! Solve this!

  • @jeremiascelidon6626
    @jeremiascelidon6626 Рік тому

    Time 4:38 in the video analysis background in orange flashes 🤔

  • @carpediem7654
    @carpediem7654 Рік тому +1

    Wall Street journal shamelessly putting out promotional pieces for the military industrial complex.

  • @arnaudmenant9897
    @arnaudmenant9897 Рік тому +6

    In France we got the same pattern of consolidation and we lost many companies and supply chains. Lot of people say it is no problèm because the US can be the backup. Well the US has the same issue.

  • @ewoksalot
    @ewoksalot Рік тому +18

    What the video doesn't mention or cover is that it's likely every country around the world is facing similar issues. The United States was not unique in its C-19 supply issue struggles, nor are we the only country facing economic woes currently. The only question is how quickly we can adapt and overcome. Given the potential financial incentives... I'd say we'll be alright ;)

    • @andrewm8703
      @andrewm8703 Рік тому +4

      Many countries, but not all. China is a country in which they have the industrial base to grow at a very rapid rate. They have the facilities for raw materials, fabrication, and production. Chips would seem to be the one area that they may struggle, but this could change.
      It is good that these issues are coming to light. The way that we had been doing business has to change. Key industries must not be allowed to be outsourced.

    • @robo__cop8154
      @robo__cop8154 Рік тому

      except russia they make 3 million sheels a year now paimping to 5 million ..western nations combined do not reach 5 million so no you're not doing alright . russia has been stockpiling since 8 years they haven't even run out and now their factories run 24 hours a day 7 days a week .the west cannot match that .

    • @andrewm8703
      @andrewm8703 Рік тому

      @@navamsinna8492 lol
      How’s the weather in Russia

    • @LeadLeftLeon
      @LeadLeftLeon Рік тому +1

      Won’t be in time to stop Ukraine from falling and being at the mercy of Russia though. Perhaps this will lead the US into a period of isolationism to build itself up. Instead of getting involved in wars it loses

    • @LeTrashPanda
      @LeTrashPanda Рік тому

      People ask....what should I invest in? Aerospace might be a good idea, lol.

  • @badone1756
    @badone1756 Рік тому

    wall street journal what is with flashing, scanning background screen 4:37-4:38min

  • @billykuan
    @billykuan Рік тому +1

    This is a problem throughout the U.S. economy. Monopolies both vertical and horizontal stifle innovation and competition but is good for profits.

  • @ec6052
    @ec6052 Рік тому +5

    So government turned the defense industry into a monopoly? And you can't just ramp up production? Read that between the lines.. What that means is they only want a few friends making all the money and we're not allowing any competition to cut in on that, even if the nation's safety is at stake... Gotcha... Put another contract out or offer $1 more a unit and watch how fast production ramps up.
    Edit: Guess I should have finished the video first before I watched it LOL But yeah, corporations, that's the reason for most of our problems and why they spend so much on media to convince us government is the problem. Government isn't that powerful, the multibillionaire's who pay off these slime ball politicians are what's powerful. Gas too expensive? Blame government while oil companies are making record profits! Malnourished infant due to a formula shortage? Blame government for it while a few companies that control supply make record profits off it's scarcity.. While certain area codes never knew the problem existed..

    • @shonemumy
      @shonemumy Рік тому

      What if I told you those same corporations are the most responsible this war even started in the first place?
      "But, Russians are the ones who invaded" is simply NPC tier reasoning.

    • @ec6052
      @ec6052 Рік тому

      @@shonemumy I would tell you that you wasted my time and yours stating the obvious. Thanks...

    • @shonemumy
      @shonemumy Рік тому

      @@ec6052 Oh, look someone with an actual working brain. Rare thing among these comments. Cheers, man.

    • @ec6052
      @ec6052 Рік тому

      @shonemumy Well that makes one of us 😂

    • @shonemumy
      @shonemumy Рік тому

      @@ec6052 Starting to think the same.

  • @phbrinsden
    @phbrinsden Рік тому +9

    That’s why this is a good opportunity to really tune up the military supply chain, use up some equipment that has been stored for a while and test how well the current weapons work in a real combat situation.

    • @LeTrashPanda
      @LeTrashPanda Рік тому

      Much of our mothballed equipment went to NATO so that has put some pressure on demand as well.

    • @JohnSmith-vn8dm
      @JohnSmith-vn8dm Рік тому

      We don't have any problem with testing given how much we've sent to Ukraine. The issue is our stockpiles are bare. According to the CSIS report this video references, it could take a decade to replace some systems. That's an issue given what could happen to Taiwan in 2027. The supply chain doesn't just need tuning, it needs a total overhaul.

  • @lazynow1
    @lazynow1 Рік тому

    All the years of mergers and out sourcing has been crazy, nice to see no pay wall with is video.

  • @az5129
    @az5129 11 місяців тому

    I'd rather learn this now than latter. Good time to address it now.

  • @TomTerrific1000
    @TomTerrific1000 Рік тому +6

    These guys have n.ever worked a day in DOD contracting and production. I designed the first Javelin launch motor tooling in the early 1990s, developed MK1000 bomb production, M1 Abrams gun ammo, etc. The problem isn't "competition" or pricing. They're correct in that certain types of munitions like Javelin are very expensive and equipment wasn't designed for a protracted WWII style war. On the other hand, tank munitions were high capability The overall problem is having trained personnel, using available munitions with launchers and delivered in a timely manner. It's a very complicated logistics problem. The U.S. has more than enough capability to deliver JDAM, but the delivery vehicle will be in short supply without appropriate delivery of the launch vehicle.

    • @MantisShrimp80
      @MantisShrimp80 Рік тому

      I remember long time back someone who commented on a UA-cam clip that she worked at a javelin plant, and that she wasn't paid all that great. Is there an underpayment problem at these facilities?

    • @MeowyBrigade
      @MeowyBrigade Рік тому +1

      @@MantisShrimp80 Perceived underpaying differ person from person. I would take a youtube comment for a grain of salt

    • @MantisShrimp80
      @MantisShrimp80 Рік тому

      @@MeowyBrigade His comment has " The overall problem is having trained personnel" while I cannot depend on one comment as you said for sure, while I am not experienced working in the defense industry having a shortage of skilled employees in an established company is generally a sign of management undervaluing skilled labor.

  • @nesseihtgnay9419
    @nesseihtgnay9419 Рік тому +4

    The javelin, the best!! MANPAT

    • @francisyockey8225
      @francisyockey8225 Рік тому +2

      Not even close, it's old tech now

    • @kmilorestre5223
      @kmilorestre5223 Рік тому +5

      ​@@francisyockey8225 good enough to pop soviet designs

    • @nesseihtgnay9419
      @nesseihtgnay9419 Рік тому +4

      @Francis Yockey it was the first to be fire and forget technology dude. Paved the way for everyone else to follow and copy, like the chinese HJ-12, the NLAW. Before MANPAT were just shooting a rocket grenade to enemies with your aim.

  • @aisuru01
    @aisuru01 11 місяців тому +1

    @4:38 someone didn't analyze their whole video

  • @bb-6359
    @bb-6359 Рік тому

    "This is the Javelin" shows footage of the NLAW instead... amazing journalism guys

  • @TheMotlias
    @TheMotlias Рік тому +5

    "this is the javaline" they say while showing footage the the British/Swedish NLAW 😆

    • @abrakkehakka1357
      @abrakkehakka1357 Рік тому

      Well… If they have issues keeping up production of the Javelin, they might as well have issues keeping up producing of video clips of the Javelin.

  • @ameliam7898
    @ameliam7898 Рік тому +7

    But for example when Texas Instuments sold off their defense industry to Raytheon the facilities & manpower remained intact. So not sure the loss of scale translates - seems more of a supply chain/covid issue

    • @biggestcomplainer
      @biggestcomplainer Рік тому +1

      Covid lol

    • @ameliam7898
      @ameliam7898 Рік тому

      @@biggestcomplainer yeah should have covid response by idiot politicians

    • @dritemolawzbks8574
      @dritemolawzbks8574 Рік тому

      ​@@ameliam7898 Were you referring to TI's former defense contracts for semiconductors and microelectronics? I thought it was sold to Raytheon and Qorvo.

    • @vlhc4642
      @vlhc4642 Рік тому

      "Supply chain issue" is just another way of saying "reliant on China"

  • @juniordantas02
    @juniordantas02 Рік тому

    4:37 "Analyzing in background"?

  • @3dPrintingMillennial
    @3dPrintingMillennial Рік тому +2

    Budget has gone UP every year and THIS is what we have to show for it??! Now they're begging for double the money and we'll just bend over and give it to them.

  • @saiskandapgs
    @saiskandapgs Рік тому

    4:38 - Analysing in background?

  • @sballantine8127
    @sballantine8127 Рік тому +5

    This is extremely alarming. Is anyone actually constructively DOING something about this or is everyone still standing around clutching their pearls and wringing their hands?

    • @ewoksalot
      @ewoksalot Рік тому +1

      Welcome to America - everyone who can make money on it is already working to fix it. This is not only common sense, but one example is illustrated at 6:35.

    • @paulbrown4649
      @paulbrown4649 Рік тому +1

      The cold war idea of stockpiling weapons and munitions is 30 years in the past.

    • @sballantine8127
      @sballantine8127 Рік тому

      @@ewoksalot Doesn't sound to me like they're putting the pedal to the metal to get it done anytime in the near future. Projected delivery dates for ammo, as an example have been talked about in numerous other videos are being mentioned in double-digit months and even not until some time in 2024, depending on the kind of ammo being talked about. This in inexcusable and unacceptable.

    • @maatagentsmith5800
      @maatagentsmith5800 Рік тому

      I agree, we should be ramping up the day Ukraine was invaded

  • @alexcarlson7691
    @alexcarlson7691 Рік тому +4

    I used to think WSJ was a pretty unbiased news source, but more and more it feels like they are shilling for various corporations. The US spends an ever increasing amount on our military each year, but this paints the picture that the military industrial complex needs even more money to keep us ‘safe’.

    • @JohnSmith-vn8dm
      @JohnSmith-vn8dm Рік тому

      They never said they needed to spend more money, just that the current supply chain is not sufficient. If you don't want to increase spending you could just conserve weapons more effectively, but that would require policy changes.

  • @markosluga5797
    @markosluga5797 Рік тому

    4:37 analyzing in background?