Why is the future Anglo-Japanese fighter gonna be bigger than F-22?
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This video talks about the GCAP, a 6th generation fighter program, made by Japan, the UK and Italy. What might it look like ? How many might be built, where might they be stationed and how might they be used?
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Italy vs Spain
France vs Iran
I doubt very much the Japanese-British-Italy jet would out maneuver the F-35 in "net working." They obviously are aiming for a bigger, more powerful, F-22-like 2 engine superiority fighter jet... because all three countries are situated in areas where they have vast distances to cover, so safeguard their exposed territories.
But the US has over 1,000 actual military nodes across the world and the mid-range F-35 is built from the ground up to be a PLATFORM fighter jet (each F-35 is a specialist in its area of operation: Europe, the ME, SE Asia, Northeast Asia, Central Asia, Africa, North America, etc)... to leverage such "networking" INFRASTRUCTURE..... so no other jet could or would out "network" --- if by that term we mean the ability to send, receive, and crunch large volumes of intel safely, in the fastest manner --- the physically average F-35, which is NOT built to physically out accelerate, out speed, or out last (in fuel capacity & distance before it needs refueling) bigger, faster, and more powerful jets (F-22, Su-35/57, Typhooh, Rafale, Eurofighter, etc).... because its forte is in COMPUTATION (in radar and avionics and networking).
The F-35 is an IQ project, not a body building one... (The US has that leisure because it still has the mighty F-15 from last generation and the 1990s F-22, for brute force activities... The F-15 may be a flying billboard/target, & it is crude, and badly fabricated jet.... but it is as fast as the mighty F-22 & 95% as powerful in jet engines...)
The F-22, for example, is way faster, more powerful, and more maneuverable than the F-35; but computationally, it probably has only 1/4 of the F-35 native capability; and with the F-22 NOT an easy and older machine to upgrade, whereas the F-35 is built to be Easily UPGRADED in computational process capability, it probably will have up to an order of magnitude more computational capability than the F-22, by the time the US has 1,000 of them in service...
Anywan, you can't just build "6th gen fighter jets that are superior to American fighter jets" when you have NOT even built 3rd, 4th, or 5th. The las time either Britain or Japan built actual fighter planes was back in the 1930 - 50s. The US and Russia are the only two countries continuously build fighter planes before jet engines became available. Unfortunately, Russia just doesn't have the PRECISION tools, fabrication, and processing capability the US has, despite the former's continuous attempt to keep up.
You could see in the Su-57 the screws, nuts, and bolts from miles away, using eye sight alone. And it is Russia's most high-end project. It could only produce about 2 dozen or so. The F-35, however, looks someone like Alien fabrication, from some angles, with its metal sheet joining, screws, nuts, and bolts being so much more sophisticatedly hidden.... and by the time it is done with production, there will likely be 2,500 to 3,000 F-35 in 30 plus nations militaries...
The US 6th gen WILL BE a true 6th gen, both in labeling and in technological fabrication evolution....
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Britain has always had cutting edge technology but not always the finance to exploit it, so this is an ideal partnership. I think Britain will enjoy a less problematic relationship than it had with the Europeans, as all countries working together was a headache with years of negotiation. Japan gets advanced military technology that the US is usually reluctant to share. The UK and Japan have moved a lot closer in recent years since China started rattling the old sabre.
in automobile industry, UK is behind Germany, France and Italy,
in 5G telecommunication,equipment, civil nuclear, electrical car, high-tech train, UK is also behind China and needs Chinese companies for help,
so we can say a desindustrialized UK has still some few cutting edge tech, but "always have" is exaggerating,
both Japan Mitsubishi civil plane project and Shinshin jet fighter project have failed, in aeronautics, Japan is far behind US, EU and even China,
and Japanese liability is a doubt, since even India manages to land on Moon, but alk Japanese Moon missions have failed too,
of course Japan has also some special advanced tech to contribute, but calling ut Anglo-Japanese fighter seems to be ignore the key role of Italy,
Japanese Gundam is only in anime, in reality the top World 10 drones companies, none is Japanese,
i think UK should focus on its European partners first,
to be honest, in this world, the only adversary China takes as serious are the US and entire EU, only the US can be far beyond China,
China doesn't really takes UK and Japan as worth opponent of the same side,
but both of them still have right to try to catch up with China,
since Chinese GDP is larger than the total sum of UK+Japan+India+Russia+SK+Australia all together,
so in term of budget, it wil be hard,
What? What cutting edge tech are you referring to?
Yes, this! The Japanese, though not as experienced as the Brits in jet engines, have the same issue. They can greatly contribute on key hardware fronts such as in the materials sciences for the engine and radar components, after all they helped pioneer AESA radars and (like BAE), work with GE and Boeing on engine development. And the Brits, besides their outsized experience in designing jets from top to bottom, also have excellent software and interface experience.
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@@Emilechen Britain is pioneer in aircraft technology, built first Allied jet engines. Today many Airliners fly on Rolls Royce Turbofans. Military - Eurofighter, Tornado, Harrier etc.
@@MrCastodian Should be Mr Comedian, Like Jet Engine Technology almost every jet flying in 1940-50s had British Jets. Up to todays Eurofighter with the most powerful fuel efficient engines in their class.
The dismissal of Italy in this video is insulting.
The UK is contributing with €10billion, Italy with €6billion, and Japan didn't pledge anything yet.
Today, Italy's Leonardo is the main developer of the electronic systems for the GCAP. And Avio will help with engine production. Key systems.
The Italian industrial base is larger than the British one, and it's especially strong in precision manufacturing.
So, the role of Italy isn't exactly marginal...
Japan has a flying demonstrator and working proof of concept engine.
yeah, Italy is the 3 main actors of Tempest project,
Italy uses to be a industrial powerhouse, in some fields, Italy even surpasses UK and Germany,
Italy alsos has defense industry giant like Leonardo,
Japan is an oustsider and it previous Shinshin jet fighter projet is alreday a failure,
Japan is not a such advanced country in aerospace and aeronautic industry comparing to US, EU and China,
people has too more illusion because of the animes, as if Japan could bring Gundam,
UK should foucus on its European partners, Europe needs to have its own 6 th generation fighter to match up with US and China,
Japan can joins the program, but can't really have a role more important than Italy,
They also have a robust aerospace Industry
@@blegi1245 This is not a matter of Italy VS Japan. It's a matter of just not downplaying the role of Italy.
But, since you mentioned, Italy has experience with stealth too. It's among the F-35 development partners, F-35 operators, and it has the only F-35 assembly and maintenance line outside of the USA (if i remember correctly).
Without mentioning Italy's experience with all the other recent aerospace projects.
And that Japanese prototype is just a little testing platform. Nothing like the final GCAS.
What are you going on about? This project was the goal of Shinshin, it's already achieved what it set out to do.@@Emilechen
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It is good to see the UK and Japan cooperating on programs like this. We both have excellent high tech industries and I think we make for natural allies as Western island powers. Perhaps we could go even further, developing spacecraft together in the future (perhaps via a UK-Japanese corporate merger? Call it Weyland-Yutani). I just hope we don't find any... alien lifeforms out there...
we tried film tie ins with skynet in the 1960's but still no AI overlords
a friendly advice,
Japan has already 3 major space failures/accidents this year, and all Japanese Moon missions have failed,
the Japan in reality is not the Japan in anime,
so UK should pick its partner more carefully, as a European nation, it would be better that UK focus on
other European nations first,
of course, UK has right to cooperate with Japan, but need to examine the liability of made in Japan,
but even in Tempest jet fighter project, Italy and Sweden have important roles not to be ignored,
@@Emilechen but Europe is fall of hostile nations to the UK these days best going back to our old allies
So wholesome hahaha
Anyways as Islands that were formerly named world title holders, you would be natural allies. It makes sense to cut away from the Europeon Ideology since you never were part of the clique anyways being far more maritime than any of them. You and Japan were both right bastards during your imperial eras, but mellowed with age. I find it amusing that with a little judicious work and deal making you may both, with OZ, be able to form a Maritime Commonwealth the Sun never sets upon... oi mate?
Germany and France are working on a 6th gen plane but the last I heard internal bickering has significantly slowed down development. So if the US refuses to export its 6th gen and GCAP keeps to schedule (a big 'if') then GCAP might be the first western exportable 6th gen fighter.
True.
Why are Germany and France bickering lol
@mharley3791 Lets not forget when France dropped out of Eurofighter. Sometimes theres just difference in what they want the design to be its normal
@@mharley3791 Company’s bickering on who will be the lead for the development of the project.
@@mharley3791always about Lorraine, Alsace, the maginot line, blitzkrieg and most likely who will win the champions league: psg or bayern munchen😂
New 6th gen fighter requirements just revealed, fighter must:
- transform into Gundam
- gesture angrily in Italian
- be piloted by Daniel Craig
US and China better watch out.
We're one step closer to Macross/Robotech.
Dumb
Sounds like a plot for a scifi parody anime. I would watch that with snacks n a drink😂
It looks like the F-22 and F-35 had a baby.
im not really sure i want 6th gen fighters being exported to the middle east..... i cant be alone in that thought
I agree. Sadly the Saudis have an infinite money glitch. It is what it is.
If we don't, you can bet the Chinese and Russians will. Better to have influence over them by making them reliant on our products.
This thing will be much more expensive to bomb civilians with than something like a Su 25
@@TheThundertakerlet them. Their “6th gen” fighters will be made of plastic and toothpaste.
@Ag3nt0fCha0s That is not the concern. The middle east (Saudi Arabia in particular) is moving closer to Russia so the west should stop selling arms to them
This type of cooperation will only become more important over time as development costs increase each generation. By 7th or 8th gen the US will inevitably have to run one big program with its allies.
Unlikely to happen if they keep withholding crucial data to allow the partner countries to modify their aircraft. Then limiting which additions and armaments are allowed to be used/purchased from them. US tends to screw anyone they are partnered with because they can and it benefits them. Something that most of the world is aware of is that if you become of little value to US they will drop you reeeal quick so if they can help it countries tend to not want to rely on US. Having a worse plane but being able to produce and upgrade when needed can be better than a good plane with limited abilities and potentially being cut off.
@@xXBisquitsXx Nah we won't see it happen again in the 7th gen. Look at the semiconductor industry. Each generation of chips becomes more expensive and eventually no country or company could afford it. Fabs merged and merged until there were no mergers left. Finally the whole supply chain had to start to pooling resources internationally.
US will not be able to afford the 7th or 8th gen alone. We're talking about a $5-10 trillion program. It's inevitable that there will be international collaboration. Even with the F-35 we worked very hard to spread the cost through the export market.
I imagine the Loyal Wingman stuff will probably be the Ghostbat (or Valkyrie). Given that of the AUKUS pact, Ghost Bat is pretty extensively worked on by Australia, I suspect the plan (or at least the plan as would be preferred by the Australians) would be to mass produce the Ghost Bat for all wingman drone platforms, GCAP, NGAD etc.
I'd be interested to see if Australia signs on to the GCAP, if the design decision is for longer range etc, it seems on paper to more closely fit Australian requirements given its large landmass etc.
Exactly and looking at the F-22 no sales even to allies, I can't imagine the NGAD being sold to anyone either having the most up to date and cutting edge technologies involved in its production.
I suspect that the Ghost Bat will be one of the drones utilized. There is a need for various drones at different capability and price points. There won't be a one fits all solution. We can observe that Develpoment already with the "normal" drones. They need cheap drones like a Tomahawk equivalent, cheap to mass produce which is good for attrition. And a more capable stealth drone, which is much more expensive but good for high-risk operations. Maybe even 3, one cheap, one middle, and one expensive solution. And then they have many different variants for those drones, like ew, isr, strike, air dominance, missile truck, etcetera. Thats what I envision.
@@herpderp9774 I don't think the world is the same as when the F-22 went into production. I think the American government is far more partial to sell the NGAD now due to the costs of its development (and eventually becomes cheaper with the more production it has) and of course, the AUKUS agreement has already allowed pretty serious technology transfer between the US and the UK and Australia what with nuclear subs and the like.
I do find it somewhat amazing that the GCAP is continuing its development despite the NGAD due to the AUKUS agreement; but I suspect there is a whole range of legal issues and technology sharing involved with that license that it might just be too expensive at the moment for the British government to pull out.
6:46 Lacking in thrust? Thats what why girlfriend in college told me.
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8th gen Fighter: Veritechs,Valkyries, & TSFs (Tactical Surface Fighter)
there's a mecha in there somewhere...
can't wait for Gipsy Danger... and KG-6 _Sleipnir_
I don't know the 8th gen, but the 6th will be able of space flight.
I think those Japanese working on a device that can make anime heros to life.
A military Gundam would also be pretty cool too... not gonna lie
@@alexratzloff894 Tekkaman/Technoman blade.
And for powering their machines up. Pikachus can overcome the energycrisis and global warming.
At this point I would not sell anything advanced like stealth to any Middle Eastern country. F-15EX, yes but anything purely stealthy, no.
i totally agree. Saudi Arabia will soon be out of oil and not an usa major ally. as soon as we dont need their gas we are going to drop them like a bad habit. they are an evil regime that we have allowed to prosper against our better judgement bc of our need for oil.
I agree. Sadly the Saudis have an infinite money glitch. It is what it is.
@@MattyJ55046 We already don't need their oil, between the Canadian Tar Sands and the Fracking bringing us natural gas and Plenty of sweet oil, we are independant. We can decouple from the rest of the oil market if we wanted to. It is the American dollar again, not a petro dollar.
@@MattyJ55046the Saudi’s are attempting to diversify their economy… but we’ll see how it pans out so far if they keep blasting money on stupid projects like the Line then they’ll be broke very soon.
"Soon SA will be out of oil and therefore not a major US friend" hahahahaha
Of course, let's ignore Italy, who was in the Tempest project from the very beginning and is bringing to the table three times the expertise of Japan in aircraft technology......
Did you watch the video Italy did bring nothing ...
@@Shambles7698 The video Is crap. Leonardo Is One of the largest and fastest growing military conglomerates in Europe. Italy Is a top tier F35 partner, we assemble all European F35s in Cameri, and led the modernization of the Typhoon alongside the British (After being the most stalwart partner in that project, as we were in the Tornado). We are European Leaders in sensor technology, and the only European country alongside France to possess space launching capabilities. You guys can Shit on Italy as much as you like, It doesn't change the fact that our industrial capabilities are top tier, and that Japan hasn't done SHIT in the Aerospace industry since 1945 outside of buying American.
@@giulianoilfilosofo7927 No one is actively sh*tting on Italy, most of us are just ignorant... and to bring attention to Italy, you don't need to crap on the recent Japanese advancements.
@@Shambles7698 Italy will help a lot with its specialization in sensor technology and software iirc. Like Japan, they're also an F-35 production assembly and maintenance partner, so they can also help cut down costs and supply chain risks there.
@@lechefski I am not shitting on Japan. I am Just arguing that, At the Moment, they lag behind in aircraft technology because they have not produced a single domestic design that wasn't based on US imported airframes since 1945.
Interesting commentary and analysis as usual, Master Binkov.
I imagine the long range anti ship missiles *might* get a little shorter over the next 5 -10 yrs due to better technologies... that may allow them to be carried internally by the new Tempest/FX fighter?
Rolls Royce teaming up with such a splendid Japanese firm as IHI bodes well for the new adaptive cycle engines. They are both very good companies.
I propose the name Mitsubishi Arashi(嵐/Tempest) for the new fighter’s Japanese version.
Interesting that the two neighbors, Korea and Japan, are not cooperating with each other. Like Greece and Turkey, in NATO.
Greece and Turkey collaborating? Don't they hate eachother? Lol
@@atrumluminarium Japan & Korea are getting over their history in the face of China.
Its slowly changing. The Korean president even visited Japan the first time after a decade. They are forming closer ties. There is a new defence and intelligence cooperation between them, they signed it a short while ago. I think the Koreans will come around and let the past be the past. I mean here in the West, we know that Japan changed and that they are a different country and society compared to a century ago. But the animosity runs deep. They have a hard time letting it go, to be rational and open-minded when it comes to Japan. But like I said, its slowly changing and they are coming together. It's long overdue if you ask me. Both are culturally, politically, militarily and economically close, they are natural partners and allies. If they were to really get together and forge a close alliance, man they would be unbeatable and a true force for good. China would be in trouble. But as long as China remains true to their misguided revisionist and imperial ways, Korea and Japan will come together, sooner or later.
In the face of a common problem, people tend to put aside differences, even for a little while. N right now that problem for SK n JAP is north korea, china, and even russia.
N tbf, that problem has been around for decades, its just that with recent developements, things have gotten extra spicy.
@@arsyadidris6349 Man if that´s the stepping stone needed for Korea and Japan to come together, build a lasting partnership and maybe even a friendship, heck then there comes something inherently good out of the evil deeds of Xinnie the Poo pBear and his dictator party friends cecepee and co.
Next fcas program video...plz..
US and/or Australian made "Wingmen", as AUS is working much closer with US/DARPA on a number of different projects since the AUKIS signing and will build some or all/most "Wingmen"...
The Wingman made for the RAAF is damn impressive!
Not until the US congress allows Australia unrestricted access to US military tech. MQ-28 Ghost Bat is Australian designed and built. The US is now looking at purchasing.
I don't know of any project in Australia that is DARPA involved in this is due in apart to US technology restrictions.
Wedge tail E-7, Ghost Shark, Ghost Bat, Autonomous Trucks, Autonomous M113A4, Ghost Robot and Drone Control Drone Swarm all projects that have been done without US support.
The US is in some cases still trying to replicate what Australia has achieved.
Spitfire and Zero are having a child
Super marine zero, spitzero, zerofire
Wonderful video for catching up with the programme
the ENGINE will be the key to making this fighter a truly advanced plane in teh gen. 6 category.
I mean I’d hope it’s better than the f22 and f35. The f22 is ancient and f35 development started in the 90s.
Point to a 4th or 5th gen fighter that didn't takea minimum of 20 years to develop and become operational. It's the way it is with complex projects.
@@lukedogwalker you’re missing the point…
Idk its kind of a misnomer, it looks the same on the exterior but the coatings, radar, operating systems, flight controls, optics, computers, etc have changed dramatically. its like saying the engine in a modern Lamborghini is the same as the Miura's engine from the 1966.
What's the point of even talking about the F-22 it's not the topic. Yes, Japan wanted it once, but it cannot be exported by US law, and because of this, it's not in Japanese service. Only the F-35 matters well, mostly to the Japanese.
@@brianvanveghel7815 I didn’t bring it up. The comparisons were made in the video
I’m honestly surprised it’s taken Japan this long to field a new frontline fighter jet - their F15Js have been around since the 1980s with similarly old avionics, and the F-2As are great multirole aircraft, but not the best for air-to-air. For an island nation with China nearby, a powerful air superiority fighter is paramount, and its good to see Tokyo is finally starting the process together with the F-35 purchase.
in fact it is not so surprising,
Japan in anime is different from Japan in reality,
today Japan can't even have any World's top-10 drone company, but people already supposes that Japan could make Gundam,
today only US, China and EU/several European nations together have enough manpower, resource and techs to make a 5/6th generation fighter project,
since it become more and more expensive and complicated,
so middle-sized and decling countries like, UK, Russia or Japan can't achieve it by their own, they need make join project,
for Japan, catch up with China and reduce its gap is alreday very hard, China has a GDP bigger than Japan+UK+SK+India+Russia all together,
Shinshin jet fighter, Mitsubishi civil planes and all Japanese Moon projects have failed when China has finished all equivalent projects with success,
it is 2023 yet, there is almost chance for Japan to have "superiority", not to be left behind by China too far is already a succes,
Japan has been an overwhelmingly pacifist nation since WWII, so it hardly put money into defense R&D, choosing to rely on the US instead. Unfortunately, the US starting giving Japan the shaft since at least the 80s for fear of Japan getting too competitive, so they forced them to use the F-16 as a platform and witheld tech transfers... then banned them from F-22 exports and here we are.
@@lechefskii think calling Japan pacifist seems to be weird,
in Japan, 0 official memorial for WWII victim of others nation, 0 official ceremony for Japanese, Chinese and Western anti-facist heroes,
but so many shrines which venerate war criminal, the only ceremony Japan take as serious is Hiroshima and Nagazaki, they don't fking care about the allied civilians and soldiers,
Japan has never been pacific, they don't regret for the war, but only regret for the defeat,
at the beginning of Japanese invasion of China, US keep selling oil and steel to imperial Japan,
after the WWII, US have protected and tolerated so many war criminals for geopolitical reason,
today US medias exaggerate the might of Japan to ensure American people:
"if even my Asian side-kick can singlehandly defeat China with ease, why should I be worried about China?
and a "superpower" like Japan, instead of creating its own Asian sphere, becoming a leader of Asia to match up with US and EU, Japan prefers remain a loyal humble vassal under the shadow of US,
the West only knows Japan for centuries, meanwhile China knows Japan for 2000 years, the first historical of Japan is written by the Chinese historians,
so according to Chinese historical experience, if one day US really decline, no one can guarantee that Japan will not backstab the US to make a deal with China,
@@Emilechen I'm really not invested in your narratives. Japan wasn't putting money into the military since WWII until now, period.
One thing we can all agree on Mr. 50 cent, is that China is not pacifist in any sense of the word and has at minimum, dormant border conflicts with every last one of its 14 neighbors... I'm not even including its neighbors across the ocean- and to the point of forcing them to align with the US out of exasperation. Any country that can single-handedly push Duterte and the Philippines to ally themselves with their former colonizers of the US and Japan, gets to claim no moral high ground here.
@lechefski
"Forced them to align with us"
I think it is a multiple military bases surrounding China and in various pacific island nations at this moment doing all that.
Getting tired of nafo tier geopolitical insights here on yt.
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UK, Japan and others (Ger/Spain + project) have probably got the message that the new US 6-gen planes will not be exported (like F-22). US will still be well ahead.
Perhaps. There are rumors of the US possibly exporting to Australia,
I highly doubt the US versions will be radically superior to the Europeans. Might as well start exporting to the Australians
@@Mr.mysterious76 it probably will actually.
I suspect Australia will go with NGAD too if the US will sell.
A few years ago, I’d have said there’d be no chance based on what happened with the F-22, but post-AUKUS and remembering the US made special provisions for selling the F-111 to Australia, it’s more than possible this may occur in future.
Very likely. Australia has no recent tradition of buying fast jets from the UK, not since the Vampire and the Meteor in the 1950s. Nothing since then has had the long range always needed in the Pacific.
Don't forget Australia is the only Allie using the Growler. A US NGAD is most likely if it is Ghost Bat compatible otherwise it will increase JCAP potential.
The Australians couldnt afford to base their air fleet around an aircraft that US Generals are saying will be in the order of $300m each.
@@watcherzero5256 You may well be right, but if it is too expensive for a wealthy country like Australia, then the USA couldn't afford it either. They will have to find ways to make the system more affordable. Otherwise it will go the way of so many other over-budget abandoned projects like the A-12 and the TSR-2.
@@juneabbey9538 The US will probably have a layered air fleet, with the NGADs backed up by 5th gen fighters.
The NGAD provides air superiority and takes out the biggest radar systems - it is replacing the F-22 after all. The F-35 is the multi-role fighter bomber that takes out air defenses. 4th Gen mops up anything on the ground.
So not a huge volume of NGADs
So much speculation and conjecture about this project at this initial stage. Interesting information, but veeery much subject to change, especially given recent history. What IS interesting is that Japan, UK and Italy want to be independent from LM and the US MIC and for good reason. I wasn't aware that SAAB had pulled out though.
All the same, I give it a maximum of 50% chance that this project will hit the finish line. BAE kind of has a track record of all talk and no show.
BAE is the largest arms manufacturer outside of the US and they are huge and worked massively on the F35 and on top of that, Rolls-Royce engines are some of the most capable in the world... The UK has the capability to make a stealth fighter and Japan are looking fast to upgrade their military due to rising threats and they have the industry to do it. It's an ideal partnership... Italy are sort of a third wheel that'll cover some of the expenses but still important for finacial reasons so I can see this going through but I can see Italy being replaced later on though.
@@crackajacka87 Well, when did they actually build a jet fighter last? Little SAAB in Sweden just got the Gripen E on the market, which the best jet fighter out there on a cost/maintenance/philosophy perspective. Yes, it is hampered a bit by having to rely on a 2nd rate American jet engine, but I would still pick it any day of the week over the Eurofighter, produced by a consortium of nations, and being replaced by F-35s as we speak/text.
It's been 20+ years when they couldn't get the Typhoon right and all the while buzztalk on Tempest and now GCAP. Believable? The French was right to pull out. I will believe this when I see something substantial, or we will have another two decades of talk, while the government decides to buy clumsy and overengineered US planes.
Prove to us that you could actually build a 6th gen jet fighter. Until then it's just talk, with no backing from corrupt politicians. To be frank, BAE would probably be better of as a subcontractor to Dassault or SAAB, who can actually deliver on time and on budget and deliver something good. I don't care if BAE is a huge arms manufacturer. Their track record on jet fighters speaks for itself, and now they're jumping one gen and expect us to believe their promises?
@@henrikg1388 You do realise that BAE helped on the F35 right? They also test stealth capabilities of new materials as stated in the video and they are the largest weapons manufacturer outside of the US and they make all types of weapons platforms like submarines with the Astute class and IFV's like the Bradley, they have their hands in a lot of pies and lets be real with the Gripen E, it's very outdated in todays stealth market and is probably why it has sold barely any and is considered a failure from a comercial prespect as the few countries that did buy it only bought like a dozen of them... Only Sweden bought a lot of them with 74 but even then they leased out 28 to the Czech and Hungary airforces. BAE is far more capable of making a solid fighter that can compete with other 6th gen than SAAB could.
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I remember when Binkov stopped saying "hypothetical" at the end of the videos
I wish Poland got into it ;( even more, I wish USA released YF-23 and new GE engines - variable cycle, high temperature ceramics....
GCAP might end up looking a lot like YF-23.
Same, but one step at a time! If Poland cooperates with Korea on aspects on KF-21 and then it can properly contribute to future projects like GCAP, and then Silesia could get extra busy! Also, it sounds like RR is asking IHI to consider adaptive engines for GCAP, so there might be alternatives after all...
@@lechefski I'm fairly confident I've heard that Poland has already signed a letter of intent to contribute funds to the KF-21 project.
@@HypnoticChronic1 That's news to me, I hope it's true!
@@HypnoticChronic1 well... SK do need that second partner... Indonesia is not that forthcoming with the funding... Indonesia is supposed to be the junior partner, but payment issue is kneecapping the program... (tho SK already have a first flight, but IND is suppose to get a test plane)
Poland have benefit from every single military development program in Europe and from America.
For example, we Italians have already sold attack helicopters and training fighters to Poland.
A large chunk of Polish armed forces works on foreign international NATO-based platforms.
That's the reality of NATO. Everyone have something made by everyone else.
It so happens that Australia decided to cancel the final order of 28 F35A fighters which were to make up a fleet of 100. It has therefore decided to upgrade its F18 F Superhornets and 12 F18G ( Growlers ) to keep them in service into the 2030’s.
It may be of interest to Australia to join the UK and Japan in replacing the Superhornets in the 2030s if the price is right and they are proven to be effective.
Re F-35, Japan, of course, is acquiring 105 x F35-A as well as the 42 x F35-B. While the UK's now committed to a minimum of 74 x F35-B..
so why have this program? seems hard to put resources in importing + R&D of new program for a smaller country like UK
@@effexon I suppose it depends what you see as being sufficiently "smaller" as to make the effects you cite disproportionately onerous. In which case it'd only apply to Japan or the UK relative to China or the USA. One of several reasons both nations, along with Italy too, are in any case pooling the cost and risks.
Just like the (in fact, economically yet smaller) combo of Germany, France and Spain, who individually would be still harder pressed to find the required resources. Yet who, like Japan/UK/Italy. seek to address the issue collectively.
@@squirepraggerstope3591I meant that they have custom R&D for typhoon, video topic + still import lot of F35.... for R&D getting pooling is necessary so that economy isnt totalitarian just geared for military. Maybe it is just to keep skillset alive, as these purchases arent simple, like other comment pointed out(make some competition at least on paper to have choices -> better negotiation position)...
@@effexon F-35 will be 15-20 years old when this plane becomes operational. It will still be capable but having your entire Air Force full of F-35s and only F-35s might not be great.
That being said, you are right in saying this project is about maintaining the skillset and the industrial capacity to build our own jets and just advanced military technologies in general.
The US can and will fuck you over if you ever become too reliant on them.
BAE has also built the "flapless" demonstrator, which is very stealthy indeed.
A flapless GCAP would be amazing.
Combined with Reaction Engines' hypersonic jet engine concept?! 🤤
yep love that to happen
Sounds almost biomechanical... can't wait to see the generation after this!
First there was the BAE Demon demonstrator UAV.
Most recently there was MAGMA by the University of Manchester.
Reaction Engines' pre-cooler from their SABRE rocket engine has been used to create the Hypersonic Air Vehicle Experimental (HVX) Programme.
You take a jet engine, who's speed is limited but inlet temperature melting everything, and add the pre-cooler from SABRE.
The idea is now you have a jet engine that works from rest up into the Mach 5 range.
Currently known as HVX Concept V.
sweden would probably wanna develop its own aircraft and saab probably pressured them a bit too
The current development cost don’t allow a small country like Sweden to develop a next generation fighter jet.
@@dayros2023 it does if they dont go stealth which is where most development cost lays
Excellent Video, Plenty, Plenty of Very interesting Information.
fricken lazers on these things...about time...BUCK ROGERS IN THE 21ST CENTURY BICHAZZZ
Do a video on FCAS as well buddy
In exercises, F-35s often identify aircraft before AWACS does. They are a great quarterbacking airplane with it's sensors and SA.
"You have so much more information, and then through fusion, you're sharing and collaborating with all the other airplanes out there. It is impossible, if you were a 4th gen perspective, to understand without seeing it from the inside, how much more awareness that you have. I think it’s part of the reason why Lt. Col. Tucker [former F-35 pilot] said about ‘not needing an AWACS telling him what to do as he had more information than them…’
This isn't to say that an AWACs isn't a valuable tool, and it helps us do things that you certainly couldn’t always do or wouldn't want to do in an F-35. But in my cockpit, I saw this in Raptor and I saw this in F-35 when I went on operational missions in Nellis Test range or anywhere else, we routinely and almost never utilized an off-board system like an AWACS and when we did, we never relied on the information they pass because we had so much high fidelity information.
Four-ship Raptor/F-35 does not need an AWACS to conduct missions.” "
- Lt. Col. David "Chip" Berke. Over 2,800 hours in F/A-18, F-22 and F-35. Served 3 Years as Top Gun Instructor pilot and former CO of First operational F-35B Squadron.
How much of that f35 detecting things before the awaks does is because the f35 is deployed far forward of the awaks because it's the stealth...?
@@michaelwicker9538 I think most of it. It can take a closer look for sure, and with data sharing with other F-35s, it can paint an excellent picture of a wide swath of airspace. ..... But the sensors are excellent as well, and that's part of it too.
man this comment section is something else
An easy way to identify bot accounts in the comments is when it has a random western sounding words at the beginning that dont really make sense then numbers afterwards, usually 3 or 4. China and Russia and other competitors (including the US) are really trying to discredit this, which is telling...
actually youtube added numbers after pre-existing usernames within the last year
Also looking at when the account was created is often telling. Mass-produced accounts seem to have started appearing around 2016, and especially around 2020, 2022 and 2023.
Italy is NOT in the middle with a smaller part. Italy is the founder of the Tempest program with UK. And is bringing the expertise of the Typhoon project (predecessor of the Tempest). Who is the most irrelevant part and has been added at a latter time in a political effort to expand the NATO to the Pacific is Japan. That for years tryed to make a decent aircraft but never could be able to acheeve success. And has been picked up more as a replacemente to Sweeden.
Japan has more money and resources than the other two. And whilst they lack expertise in many areas of defence manufacturing due to over-reliance on the US and a post WWII ban only recently lifted on collaboration with others they have top tier tech when it comes to electronics.
@@TheThundertakerJapan will do the heavy lifting but the UK especially has a lot of tech that JP doesn’t have and they can fill the gaps. And yea Italy is definitely not going to play a prominent role in development…
@@chiiesa based on?
15:51 wouldn't the MBDA meteor do as a first radar guided missile? It has only been in Production for a few years and new sub versions B/C/D etc must be in the works.
Worked with Japanese companies for 20 years. Japanese wife works for Italians. To quote Jake Skywalker, “This is not going to go the way you think"🤣
My bet: its going to be a high speed, high range, stealthy missile truck, not a fighter in the least.
If it ever gets into a furrball then its F-ed up, but thats what the AI wingmen are for.
Might even be big enough to carry a few wingmen to drop like land mines and run, if things get hairy.
This is probably the correct bet. A bigger air frame will allow it travel farther (more fuel) and the Allies are currently missing a long range stealthy middle truck (F-35 Carries at max 6 missiles, FX-15 is not stealthy and old).
This in theory would avoid duplication of systems, especially considering the F-35, which Japan, UK, and Italy continue to have, will be supported until the 2070s. The F-35 will continue to be the quarter back while the GCAP will be the overwhelming firepower
Plus Saudi will purchase at least 50 and looks like Germany may drop out of French option. Exports could be big.
Knowing how the FCAS program is a Franco-German project expect nothing, but pointless delays, bickering over deigns, constant redesigns, then bickering over the redesigns, then bickering over and about the bickering and eventually Germany pulling out of the project altogether. And once the GCAP project is finished and ready for service and for sale, Germany will end up buying those instead.
Don't expect too much from mainland continental Europe when needing to embark on collaborative military projects.
The Japanese F-X artists rendition with the Whale Shark sensor skin pattern looked way cooler than the BAE goofy looking mockup. The SCAF looks very sharp but the model sits on French cinder blocks not very compelling even for an art project. 26:00 great discussion on development money and as Justin Bronk at RUSI has analyzed GCAP will cost much more than has currently been discussed. Best of luck I think there is a huge need for this plane.
🇬🇧🇮🇹🇯🇵 what a combo
Agreed - next eurofighter will be french/german so Brits signed up 2 other rich guys
@@jyy9624Germans are thinking to leave the project with France and join Italy, Japan and UK
usual American documentary that doesn't include Italy, ITALY and England were the first! Japan then entered
lol this channel isn’t American it’s from Croatia. Of course you would just blame America by default 🤷♂️
Yeah, it was a British-Italian project, now just because Japan joined it later after 4 years, now it became an "Anglo-Japanese project" and Italy a minor partner 🤣
I would be surprised if the XF-9 is used in any form. Yes obviously it will heavily influence the design but it’s not a future engine, it’s a current engine. I imagine the core and all that jazz will be completely fresh, with RR more extensive engine experience being crucial.
As for Radar I fully expect Japan to be on top, of that, and the UK and Italy will aid in what they know, as their current Gallium Nitride prototype is only partial nitride, and partial arsenide.
XF-9 advantage is a relatively narrow width while maintaining adequate performance. This allows a thin side profile to the aircraft which is more stealthy.
@@stupidburp of course, that’s not what I’m referring to. EJ200 and F119-PW-100, the engines that power the F-22 and Eurofighter, both first ran in 1990, a third of a century ago. The British and Americans have always been leaps and bounds ahead of the competition when it comes to jet engine design, including the Soviets.
@@jacobbaumgardner3406 It's not that clear cut. RR beat P&W with their tested specs for the F136, and they themselves are impressed by the XF-9. Also, the RR already offered IHI consultancy on the XF-9- and that makes a lot of sense since (publicly) they've only had the time to test modifications to existing platforms and neither country can afford to extend the timeline.
I'm hopeful for XF-9, since it was designed from the ground up for these stealth and power generation requirements, and it has a form factor that could really benefit future stealth drones and hence, really improve sales prospects and maintenance costs going forward.
@@lechefski I would agree with the stealth drones. Not to disparage the Japanese at all, as I imagine the information technology of Japan will greatly benefit the program. However it must be understood that the engines such as the F136 are old designs now, with the F136 being a 2004 design, while the XF-9 wasn’t delivered until 2018. Again Japan is very in on technology, but engine design has historically and currently an Anglo dominated field.
@@jacobbaumgardner3406 I'd actually argue that the Brits are well ahead in information technology, heuristics, etc. Anyhow, I'm not saying that the Japanese are on par, but let's not pretend that 30 years in jet engine development is the same as it is for consumer electronics. Also, if RR is on board, I really don't see a conflict of interest for either party, especially now that the Brits are pressuring IHI to look into adaptive cycle. This could be a massive win-win scenario.
Japanese don't consider software engineering a prestige career; it is thought of as almost corporate clerical work. That and their scrapping of the Mitsubishi regional airliner does not bode well as a whole.
Meanwhile BAE worked in a consortium on Eurofighter but that was a while ago. So as a way of keeping the defence aerospace industry going in both the UK and Japan the project is perfect. Replacing the Eurofighter and F-15 will see that GCAP has several hundred airframes in future possible orders.
Ive heard of this 1980s mentality of hardware is king, software cheap work.... it ruined many companies... im a bit suprised coz japan does lot of software products nowadays like games etc....
日本ではSEは、ITドカタ呼ばわりですから😂
Honestly if the plan is to team it with drones why do you need a big internal bay, like each of the drones I would assume could carry at least 1 missile internally assuming they are also going to be stealthy and 2 externally with mountable pylons, although due to weight limits you would have to choose whether you wanted to go with 2 externally or 1 internally and maybe 1 external and 1 internal, but likely you wouldn't bother unless you can drop the pylons and recover stealthiness. Assuming you can team up with at least 4 drones you could cut the bay in half.
They’ll be like “Not ace combat enough”
I don't think anything that comes from the UK and Japan is known for being inexpensive.
AV-8B
Who do you think invented the Sten SMG?
[European Country], Japan, and Italy as a supposedly equal partner but not really. I've seen this one before..
What
@@thenibblershow5305 In WWII, Germany and Japan were seen as the two major powers in the axis whereas Italy was seen as a liability by both the Allies (Churchil refered to Italy as Europe's "soft underbelly") and the axis (The germans eventually had to occupy Italy to try and hold back the allies)
@@mark63424able WWII was alreday the long past,
today in aeronautics, France has surpassed Germany and China has surpassed Japan, Italian navy us by far bet
er than Germany,
Shinshin jet fighter, Mitsubishi civil plane, all Japanese moom missions have already failed,
so can Japan still be considered as liable?
@@Emilechen The P-1 the C-2 the US-2 the Honda Jet the MU-300 also failed???
Do you know how much money Mitsubishi used to build the Atdx? it was less than US$500 million, and do you know why the Atdx didn't progress to a fighter jet?
It was because the XF9 engine had started development and not even they knew when it would be ready, only after completing the engine prototype tests did the Japanese government give the green light to start the development of a new jet.
And did you know that it was the Italian government that asked you to leave Tempest and join the Japanese program???
In English n proud its not how the model looks that's not how the actual tempest will look its all about the technology u can't see the British are always extremely good at building fighters and don't ever underestimate them plus the Japanese are fantastic software engineers and have secret tech developed so British engines nd weapons and helmet software n Japanese know how Italian sensors from Leonardothere companies together are the best in the world it'll be a world beater mark my word u will be shocked 10:42
One thing when you talk about the reasons why the US restricts weapons exports is, its bit the US in the butt on multiple occasions. Even today, F-4 Phantoms still makes up a large portion on Iran's air force. But this aircraft sounds less 6th gen and more 5+. Not that this is a bad thing. The F22 and F35 are not the best aircraft for the Pacific, and the new NGAD will need to have both more range and capacity to handel the longer distances there. By focusing this new fighter on range and less on stealth, they could produce a fighter more suited to the region. The bigger the aircraft, the harder to make it stealth. Also, true stealth is pricy and with newer radars more sensitive than ever, even the F22 may one day be fully visible on radar, and without ECM abilities, it wont have a way to defend itself. Thats where the future will be, using technology to "cloak" the aircraft.
Sounds like they are trying to build a J-20 type of jet. Less stealth but more range and more speed, more firepower.
4:52 - 4:57 many commentators on here are forgetting that important factor . If they have the investments of the saudis too, they will be ok
Saudis don't invest in development. They only buy in-productuon weapons systems.
If the saudis join, they will fuck up everything
Yeh tripple that $25 billion fairly easily, I would be shocked if it only doubled that price tag.
Japan + UK = Redbull F1
It's an OP combo. Just ask Lewis Hamilton and Leclerc
Never underestimate Japanese. They can achieve what they want.
@@GF-mf7ml Japanese can't even achieve its own X-2🤣
@@dravenvea2605 X-2 is just a technology demonstrator. They weren't intending to go all out with it.
@@NationChosenByGod No. It's due to lack of superiority and advanced tech. So they turned to better F35.
@@dravenvea2605 I disagree. Japan had advanced tech with radar, heat-seeking missiles, and jet engines which is why Britain allowed Japan to join. X-2 only focuses on 3-D thrust vectoring and maneuverability purposes. F-35 is just a temporary solutions for both the UK and Japan.
It will be better than anything China or Russia has, and that's all that matters. It will fly alongside F-22, not against them.
F-22 will be retired before this thing enters service.
It will? Nothing they have or can build today can match Chinas tech, so will it be better?
@@blegi1245 I guarantee you it will remain in service long after it is due to be retired.
@@B.D.E. That's only because congress won't approve retirements as soon as air force wants. But it won't be 6 years or more (planned complete F-22 retirement is 2030, this thing is supposed to enter service 2036 if there are zero delays).
Japan, Germany, and Italy should work together on new gen tanks, planes, and guns
getting the old gang back together I see
@@tianyuanfan6039 lmaoooo
Germany is too busy getting into arguments with France over literally everything to do that. UK and Germany swapped friends and I think I know who got the better deal🤣
Lol the old team
Japan has very specific needs when it comes to tanks, and they already have that in the form of the Type 10 and Type 16.
But they can fire the same rounds and can network with western tanks, so its all good.
binkov is our friendly lizard people
America NGAD looks like a truly radical 6th gen design, while this Anglo-Japanese 6th gen looks more like a 5th gen design modernized with 2030’s technology.
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@@apsoypike1956 Probably just plain 5th gen but well developed. F-22 was bleeding edge and still has issues, and maintenance is intensive. A less-sensitive but more stealthy fighter would just be a refinement. I guess you could call it 5.5th gen like a lot of upgraded 4th gen fighters get called "4.5th gen" but there's so few 5th gen fighters I think it's better looking at the F-22 as an early example that wasn't as refined.
Let's keep in mind that there are only so many formfactors possible for a combat stealth aircraft. What matters is the hardware and software.
@@mrspeigle1not really, there’s still a whole lot of wiggle room. Integrally built DEWs, engine intake location, nozzle design, flying wing vs delta wing, etc.
All of those represent radical changes in physical look of a fighter and are all very feasible for a 6th gen design.
They haven't even decided on work share yet never mind established a final form for the aircraft. We have absolutely no idea what it will look like tbh.
7:50 1800C inlet temp? Dude, that's on par with the inside of a kiln making high fired dense industrial ceramics. This is before being compressed and combustion. Is the exhaust temp 15000-20000C? I'm guessing that you meant 1800C exhaust not inlet.
It means the fuel & air inlets into the combustion chamber(s). That indeed is the hottest part in a jet-turbine as the burning starts there. Even with afterburner on the exhaust should be somewhat cooler.
@@HiReeZin Never heard of inlet temp being defined that way. Reference?
@@DrogoBaggins987Try to google it.
@@HiReeZinlol an armchair expert, imagine the inket being hotter than the exhaust 😂😂😂😂 real great mind power it seems
Japan MoD and IHI (the manufacturer of the engine) surely said that the inlet temp was 1800℃.
Anglo-Japanese sounds weird, idk why but it does
Janglo?
Anglonese?
Nihonglo?
Japanglo defense pact!
because anglo has very negative connotations.
at least how i use it.
@@sabin97 Well, your racism aside, pretty good name.
Korea working on a non-stealth
So it's basically gen 4+ then^^ stealth is a must in a gen 5 and gen 6 is even more stealth and alot better tech overall to detect control drones etc
You're talking about the KF-21 right? If so yes you're correct in that it is not stealth. It's a generation 4.5 to 4.75 plane.
However that's for their first block. The South Korean government does plan on upgrading block 2s and block 3s to fit a more 5th or even some 6th gen tech in the future.
@@lazysnipe It is stealth-y but has no internal weapons bay yet which makes it nonstealth.
I think it'll be a 5+ gen not a true 6 gen. Britain could have gone it alone, if it could afford it, so it'll probably be very like the original Tempest. The Japanese radar is a good plus for it.
Probably the most sane and plausible 6th gen fighter, at least in the western world, and probably the only one to be realized under reasonable costs and in reasonable time.
In my opinion NGAD will end up like the zuwbald project if it is actually feasable to create such aircraft
or like fara ( future attak elicopter......) at last american buy freem from fincantieri
Youd hope so given it's 35 years older
12:10 Ahh, the Chmmr.
Quietly hopes from the corner that one of the designs has a passing resemblance to the MIG-31 from the movie Firefox...
China must resist any attempts to goad into a conflict, fix it's relations and territorial issues with its southern neighbours including India, then focus on the economy, that would inflict a bigger defeat on its opponents than any modern jet fighter can.
Yep. But key to this is removing Xi. Xi has become a new dictator, and dictators always lead countries astray. If China had continue policies of the mid 2000s and abided by autonomy rules for Hong Kong et all the they could have outgrown the US.
Instead Xi has made Chinese policy to focus on himself over the nation. Institutional corruption remains a problem.
@@granatmofhonestly US will never allow another country to gain upper hand in some industries. Even Japan is not allowed to beat USA in some industries like micro chip.
China will be the next superpower ...
China is the aggressor
@@granatmofagreed, once China has a democracy and builds an alliance with India, both nations will become unstoppable.
Hopefully, a similar episode on Germany France Spain FCAS project
Yeah.. Anglo-japanese with Italy making most of the product...
I'd be very hesitant to define Italy as a smaller partner in the GCAP project: first of all Italy was already on board with the Tempest from the very start, before India and Sweden joined and later left, and then there's the fact that there's a lot of italian capital and interests in BAE. It's not unlikely that Japan will opt out in the end, probably due to Saudi Arabia joining the project, and that in the end GCAP will be merged with FCAS.
Off course,binkov missed this time,Italy is THE partner for UK to create the tempest,swedish and Japan join later
British and japanese engineering inovation already successful in for example f1.very posative for both teams im sure
The problem is the cost of the planned fighter jet. It seems that with the anticipated 400 jets for three counties, it will cost $200 million-$300 million for each. It is 3-4 times more expensive than F-35A fighter jet. Even this price tag is optimistic expectation. The per fight hour maintenance cost will be expensive too. So they may reduce the number to procure, which will push the price up further. Similar to the situation of now retiring F-22. Good luck to UK-Japan.
The UK government made it clear that the plane will be export oriented in order to bring down costs. Its not going to be just the 3 countries, Saudi Arabia looks like a likely candidate. This was even discussed in the video lol. Saudi Arabia even expressed interest in joining the program, but Japan vetoed it.
@@mark63424able I can't see what the Saudi's could contribute except money and that can be gotten by selling it to them.
Yes, but considering the cost of the program, money could talk here. I doubt the UK or Japan seriously consider the Saudis an industrial threat even if they were generous with tech transfer. The issue that Japan raised was giving the Saudis veto power. @@recoil53
I suspect part of the motivation for Saudi Arabia wanting to become a partner, is that they wouldn't have to deal with potential supplier vetoes in future, as with Germany recently
@@ThePurplePassage Good point
Testing the crucial weapons bay???
Does anyone else remember when this used to be a fun country vs country scenario channel?
I’ve been hoping there’s another soon other channels make this kind of content but nobody really does the scenarios like binkov did
there are only so many countries......and only so many of them are warmongers like usakistan and the rest of europe.......
it would be pretty boring to pit costa rica vs jamaica, for example.
so he was bound to run out of material at some point.
Good look!
you certainly did your research on this topic
Eurofighter development costs turned out to be much much more than initially estimated see Justin Bronk's RUSI report. Nice one Bink!
J20 is obsolete anyway
Its a 4+ gen fighter. I mean China has not the advanced high tech industrial base to produce something that complex. They struggled to build their J10 years ago, even though it utilized stolen, copied and licensed technology from Russia and the US. They couldn't even produce a mediocre engine. Their civil aviation industry is decades behind the West, but somehow those brainwashed chinese wumaos believe that they can compete in the military aviation...
@@Kenny-yl9pcTell me one thing that Japan and U.K. does that China can’t do?
@@I-02It outnumber Chinas fighter today, in total volume, but how many can they have in the theatre in the same time? Does not Mather if you have 2000 5th gen fighters when you can’t have them in the area.
@@Kenny-yl9pc boomer cope. Your shipyard are made in China.
you know how many j-20s we got? @@I-02
As a prior aircraft maintainer and someone who has maintained glued structures/electronics, that plane sounds like an absolute maintenance nightmare to replace fasteners with glue.
Time to buy stock in heat guns
Oh yeah, you're right. I didn't think about that since you have to pull off all of those panels for inspection and so have to remove and reapply.
Italy and UK were the first, then came Japan! Why do you keep Italy out of this? Shame on you!
Absolutely
The US NGAD will more like a 7th generation: using airflow ports to turn instead of flaps, lasers, color changing skin, long wave radar stealth, hypersonic speed, new diamond/ceramic coatings, and they already have a flying prototype….
That sounds like sci-fi bullshit .. lol.. except it's all true
They’ll never export that though surely.
It will also conduct interplanetary spaceflight, establish first contact with extraterrestrials, time travel and reverse the climate change
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Strong rumours in the last week or so, that Saudi Arabia has formally requested to join the GCAP (Tempest) project. If this happens, I think there should be no more worry's about development costs.
Perhaps not, Japan opposed Saudi Arabia's entry into the project.
With the Saudis moving closer to BRICS the GCAP developers aren't going to share their tech. It would be the same as giving all their engineering advances away to their potential rivals.
"Because Pacific is hard."
There, no video needed :P
Japan. The Empie is now a close ally.
It's no longer an empire
No? They don’t have an emperor?@@ieuanjones7615
Emperor Hirohito would disagree@@ieuanjones7615
Anglo japanese alliance lasted 30 years actually since russo japanese war, of course after japan had the racial equality act after ww1 they ended it
ASPJ was a US program for eons
Anglo-Japanese-Italian* 6th gen fighter.
This SpitfireⅡ is well designed.
I bet the Italians contribution will to make it the sexiest (like sports car of the skies) with Japanese (incredible electronics) and British (engineering/ power) and American munitions (Americans know how to make boom booom)
We Italians can already make it by ourselves. We have some of the best engines, electronics,guns and designers of the world.
Not the best, but definitely on the top class.
We just need to share costs.
Engines? On the same level as Rolls Royce? I doubt it. Guns I could see with OTO Melara but they are more navy gun designers than for aircraft. Electronics as well, but definately not engines.@@danielefabbro822
@@TheThundertaker .....ehmmm....RR turbines are built in Italy.
@@extremathule982 give over mate. My dad used to work in the aerospace industry and he did plenty of contract work at their factory in Derby.
didnt know jnaam had been cancelled
looks like KaaN somehow
And the F-22, and the F-35, and the J-20. If you want a low radar cross section, you're limited by geometry. That's why all stealth fighters have a similar shape and features. That being said, the 6th gen fighters may end up looking nothing like any of those, and more like the US NGAD artists impressions.