How Elisabeth Kübler-Ross Became The Queen of Dying | Radiolab Podcast

From the Radiolab podcast: The remarkable story of Elisabeth Kübler-Ross, the woman who showed us all how to stare down death and also get through our grief.
If you’ve ever lost someone, or watched a medical drama in the last 15 years, you’ve probably heard of The Five Stages of Grief. They’re sort of the world’s worst consolation prize for loss. But last year, we began wondering: where did these stages come from in the first place?
Turns out, Elisabeth Kübler-Ross. But the story is much, much more complicated than that. Those stages of grieving? They actually started as stages of dying. After learning that, Radiolab producer Rachael Cusick tumbled into a year-long journey through the life and work of the incredibly complicated and misunderstood woman who single-handedly changed the way all of us face dying, and the way we deal with being left behind.
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This episode was reported and produced by Rachael Cusick, with production help from Carin Leong.
This story wouldn’t have been possible without the folks you heard from in the episode, and the many, many people who touched this story, including: Anne Adams, Andrew Aronson, Audrey Gordon, Barbara Hogenson, Basit Qari, Bill Weese, Bob McGan, Carey Gauzens, Clifford Edwards, Cristina McGinniss, Dorothy Holinger, Frank Ostaseski, Ira Byock, Jamie Munson, Jessica Weisberg, Jillian Tullis, Joanna Treichler, Jonathan Green, Ken Bridbord, Ladybird Morgan, Laurel Braitman, Lawrence Lincoln, Leah Siegel, Liese Groot, Linda Mount, Lyn Frumpkin, Mark Kuczewski, Martha Twaddle, Peter Nevraumont, Rosalie Roder, Sala Hilaire, Stefan Haupt, Stephanie Riley, Stephen Connor, and Tracie Hunte.
Special thanks to all the folks who shared music for this episode, including: Lisa Stoll, who shared her Alpine horn music with us for this episode. You can hear more of her music here: www.lisastoll.ch
Cliff Edwards, who shared original music from Deanna Edwards: www.deannaedwards.com
The Martin Hayes Quartet, who shared the last bit of music you hear in the piece that somehow puts a world of emotion into one beautiful tune: www.martinhayes.com/martin-hay...
And an extra special thank you to the folks over at Stanford University - Ben Stone, David Magnus, Karl Lorenz, Maren Monsen - the caretakers of Elisabeth’s archival collection who made it possible to rummage through their library from halfway across the country. You can read more about the collection here: news.stanford.edu/thedish/201...
To learn more about Elisabeth and the folks who are furthering her work, you can visit the Elisabeth Kübler-Ross Foundation website here: www.ekrfoundation.org
Illustration by Michelle Kondrich [www.michellekondrich.com]
Video produced by Kim Nowacki & Sahar Baharloo.
This episode of Radiolab was originally published on podcast platforms with the title "The Queen of Dying."
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[@grantconners4228]

Out walking the dog. Went through every emotion. Even picked my dog up and hugged her weirdly in middle Street.
What an absolutely beautiful masterpiece. Felt a little bit more alive today

[@nicholjackson8388]

Medical pet companions!

[@anildumpa3158]

Beautiful conversations on such a delicate subject. Thanks for the upload

[@jmore4868]

Amazing episode. Thank you Rachael.

[@Radiolabpod]

thank you for listening!

[@comfortcarechannel]

Wow! Excellent episode!

[@solarnaut]

Christopher hitchen`s `last book` was written after his terminal diagnosis.
he remarks that it is worse than being told `the party is over,`
rather the party is going to carry on, but you, you have to leave ! :-/

[@Well-that-was-unfortunate]

...it's a shame that I'm going to screw up this quote, and I can't even remember where it's from, but what you quoted reminded me of it... it's to the effect of "Always go while they want you to stay..."
I can say it's from a movie, and not a main character... it's just said very much in passing, but yeah...
It is sad to have to leave the party... eh... I could type forever, and who has that long... ya'll take care now...

[@nicholjackson8388]

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