An absolute masterpiece of tactics which probably offers the most beautiful playing style you can see in FM and is still incredibly effective. If you prefer to completely dominate a game, you should give this tactic a go without a doubt, you won't regret it. 👍🏼😎 By the way, I didn't expect a mention, a nice surprise and thank you for that! And also thanks to GYRFM for the opportunity to test the tactics in advance, great guy!
I know there are few other comments that are similar but I feel the need to join them. For years I have been either trying to find and or create something like this. Then this tactic came along and it was an absolute dream come true. After playing with this for several days (with a mid level Mexican team) I have to say that this is so incredibly beautiful football to watch. The passing and positioning as well as the defense is something I’ve never seen from other creators tiki taka styles. The huge difference is that I’m scoring boatload of goals while dominating the ball which is incredible. I’ve never seen it in any other tactic. I just love watching the triangles, build up and spaces being created for goals. This is my favorite tactic in FM23 by far. By far. Thank you GOAT!
Wow, not sure what to say to this other than thank you. I am glad you like the tactic and really appreciate you taking the time to leave this feedback!👍
Havent won a single european game 10 years into my Barcelona rebuild in fm23. After this tactic i managed to win 2 Quintuple and 3 Trebles without a single change to my team. Best tactic i have ever used by far.
I have a few tactics I have made which are favourites because they have evolved over the past few games. This one is my favourite for gameplay! Lovely patterns of play, controlled possession with a purpose!
@@djbrezzy6649 Yeah it's realistically good I would say. There is no "op trick" to it. Players or positioned and instructions are set to give good passing options and create overloads with movement at the right time. Lots of fun!
Tried it with my Sporting Portugal save and then moved to Internazionale and did great on both seasons. Won the league in both cases and reached Champions League semis both times aswell. Really worked out. I did so changes, because I like to play strikerless, so i used shadow strikers in advanced central midfielder and I would say that the shadow striker and the deep lying midfielder are key as they play major roles. In my teams, Pedro Gonçalves for Sporting and Lautaro Martinez for Inter, as shadow strikers, won Golden boot. Again, awesome tactic. Hope it works out on Fm24, because I'll sure use it 😀
@@GYRFMusing it on a new save where I started unemployed and with no qualifications. Amateur Belgian league, picked up Winkel Sport Club on 18th place, managed to get promoted and on the second season am fighting for yet another promotion at the moment. Amazing tactic man. Really hope to see it on FM24. Cheers!
@@brunosantos4902 I cannot let fm24 arrive without bringing the beautiful game 😂😂 maybe some short tiki taka set pieces will be effective in the new one
Try with Crewe Alexandra Sky Beat League 2, finish in the 2 place,61 possesion, and first in goals,and the best was that we played an incredible football style, i think that this tactic is the best for tiki taka style actually in fm23. I loved see my games with the great football played. Thanks fot the amazing job
I'm currently using this tactic with Liverpool with latest update from sortitout (MacAllister and Szoboszlai in the squad). It works great, sometimes I have trouble away against big teams, but think thats quite normal and maybe gets better with time and better players... currently 23 games in the league (17 wins, 4 draw, 2 loses and 66-11 in goals). I just wonder what I should do when I got a red card? (only happen once in a home game vs Bournemouth, had a 2-0 lead and ended 2-1, but had a lot of trouble with only 10 men.
This is the best tactic that i used in this FM, great results,very low conceded goals, great play.Only one problem i find with this, the striker it's useless.I am with Maritimo, in Portugal, second seson, media prediction 7, i assemble a good team from Brazil, and at ST i have Lazaro, maybe you people know him, in FM21 was a wonderkid,and his stats after 12 matches are 0 goals, 0 assists and avarage rating of 6,33, i used him as a CFA for 5 matches, it was bad, ok his is not a complete forward, his a AF or F9, i used him as a F9, a little bit better but stil kinda meh. The team plays very good, 12 matches in the league 11 W 1 D.
Awesome, keep up the good work guys. I look forward to trying this out. But to be fair most of the gyr tactics work on console. I only play on console, so always trying them out. Keep em coming 🤜🤛
Few people have told me this but was nice to be able to find out during the testing process thanks to Kev downloading it on patreon early and sending me the info.
I tried pressing forward and it doesn't work. Don't worry if they aren't amazing at the role aslong as they can play the position they will be OK. The tactic needs the role as they are to get the overall team movement to work.
We recommend not changing things. The complete forward is there to link the play and an Advanced Forward won’t do that. I’d suggest getting your striker to train the position and he will be a natural by the end of the season
@@HoodGamingUKexactly this and the short passing means they pick the ball up outside the area more often. Was seeing some strikers just take a pop then and wasting the opportunity.
@@iaintaylor5116I tried to improve the previous versions with tweaks by myself and, among other things, deactivated "Shoot less often". The result was that the whole team's game was more focused on the striker and everyone played a little more "for him". This made it much easier for the AI to defend the attacks if they have a defender on the pitch with good stats in marking. With "Shoot Less often" the striker participated much better in the game, the whole team played better together and the whole attacking game became more unpredictable because of the movements, swapping positions etc. practically everyone can be a goal threat.
Not on these tests. If your confident reading pass maps to judge the other teams playing style you can man mark the right positions using any tactic to contain them but they are not needed
I think it will based on me messing about in different leagues but I wouldn't try it with the team predicted 24th. If your wrexham/Notts county or a team near the top 5 or 6 you'll be fine. We did barrow before but I don't think they can tiki taka 😂
I don't think you'll get champions league but with the wingers they have I think you'll beat the teams around you or lower. Might need to update the squad to push europe. I'm thinking cms with high vision and passing
Oh oh oh, can I play? You've plugged it in halfway through a season? You've played like 5 games and not beaten teams 6-0 each time You don't have the players for it? Tactical familiarity is low? ALL OF THE ABOVE For best results, start using it in preseason. Let the players learn it, then you'll see results.
Doesnt work for me either. Newcastle save, bought good young players to fit the system. Decided to give it a season and ended up 14th, just been sacked. First time in FM 23 I've been sacked.
It will but I wouldn't use it with a team predicted to finish down the bottom. The style of play isn't really for underdogs. We used Villa as they are a midtable team with some good technical players. You will be playing teams of a similar level tho so short answer is yes haha.
I’m Aston Villa with a fairly good team but I’m losing against teams in the relegation zone and teams that I should be beating finished in 8th but the seasons before finished in the top 5 no clue what happened
Tactic is poor unless you are a big team like city or Liverpool. Used it for 16 games with Wolfsburg only won 4 and got knocked out of the cup by a 2nd Division team 😂
Don't agree with this and we always test with team lower than elite. Villa and Slough being example. Happy to look at the save if you want to send it to see what's wrong with your setup 👍
Lol for people saying great tactic i was having a great season till i decided to use this, i just Lost 4 0 against brentford and i was in full force 😂😂😂😂
I think the mistake you made is changing midseason. The tactic is very good and is also a very specific style. I never recommend changing to any tactic mid way through the season esp if you are doing well. Finish the season out and then give your plays a summer to train.If you are on console same rule applies to changing a winning tactic- dont do it. Start the season with the one you want to use!
@@GYRFM yeah i know i just tested it because even though i was winning i wanted more goals and decided to see if it really is what they say, kept using it after a bit, changed some roles, it got better
@@andrecruz9380@andrecruz9380 it's a good one just needs the familiarity as it's not made to just get the most points it's made to get the most points playing a very particular style. It might be the roles your switched to are more natural for the players if they haven't been training the new tactic much.
Let me guess, you’ve changed tactic mid-season and expected miracles? Bet your morale is in the bin and you’re not training your players on their roles as well?
An absolute masterpiece of tactics which probably offers the most beautiful playing style you can see in FM and is still incredibly effective. If you prefer to completely dominate a game, you should give this tactic a go without a doubt, you won't regret it. 👍🏼😎
By the way, I didn't expect a mention, a nice surprise and thank you for that! And also thanks to GYRFM for the opportunity to test the tactics in advance, great guy!
You're too kind Kev - thank you for all your work in helping G put this one together!
Thank you mate you have been a star with all the testing especially on console
@@GYRFMyou're welcome! 😎👍🏼
I know there are few other comments that are similar but I feel the need to join them.
For years I have been either trying to find and or create something like this. Then this tactic came along and it was an absolute dream come true.
After playing with this for several days (with a mid level Mexican team) I have to say that this is so incredibly beautiful football to watch. The passing and positioning as well as the defense is something I’ve never seen from other creators tiki taka styles.
The huge difference is that I’m scoring boatload of goals while dominating the ball which is incredible. I’ve never seen it in any other tactic.
I just love watching the triangles, build up and spaces being created for goals.
This is my favorite tactic in FM23 by far. By far.
Thank you GOAT!
Wow, not sure what to say to this other than thank you.
I am glad you like the tactic and really appreciate you taking the time to leave this feedback!👍
Havent won a single european game 10 years into my Barcelona rebuild in fm23. After this tactic i managed to win 2 Quintuple and 3 Trebles without a single change to my team.
Best tactic i have ever used by far.
I have a few tactics I have made which are favourites because they have evolved over the past few games.
This one is my favourite for gameplay! Lovely patterns of play, controlled possession with a purpose!
Love it , this tactic dominate irl and game . Love to dominate Possession
@@djbrezzy6649 Yeah it's realistically good I would say. There is no "op trick" to it. Players or positioned and instructions are set to give good passing options and create overloads with movement at the right time.
Lots of fun!
I really love possession based tactics,I think it’s the best way to dominate the match
Can’t concede when you have the ball 🤣
this is even better than an ordinary masterpiece. huge tactic…huge congrats to gyr. a beast❤
My favourite for gameplay 100% Love the passing. Glad you like it and thanks for the feedback 🙂
Tried it with my Sporting Portugal save and then moved to Internazionale and did great on both seasons. Won the league in both cases and reached Champions League semis both times aswell. Really worked out. I did so changes, because I like to play strikerless, so i used shadow strikers in advanced central midfielder and I would say that the shadow striker and the deep lying midfielder are key as they play major roles. In my teams, Pedro Gonçalves for Sporting and Lautaro Martinez for Inter, as shadow strikers, won Golden boot.
Again, awesome tactic. Hope it works out on Fm24, because I'll sure use it 😀
Will 100% be looking to make an fm24 version! Glad you like it!
@@GYRFMusing it on a new save where I started unemployed and with no qualifications. Amateur Belgian league, picked up Winkel Sport Club on 18th place, managed to get promoted and on the second season am fighting for yet another promotion at the moment. Amazing tactic man. Really hope to see it on FM24. Cheers!
@@brunosantos4902 I cannot let fm24 arrive without bringing the beautiful game 😂😂 maybe some short tiki taka set pieces will be effective in the new one
Try with Crewe Alexandra Sky Beat League 2, finish in the 2 place,61 possesion, and first in goals,and the best was that we played an incredible football style, i think that this tactic is the best for tiki taka style actually in fm23. I loved see my games with the great football played. Thanks fot the amazing job
No problem that was the aim and I'm glad you like it 👍
Get your hands on this beast of a tactic here: www.fmscout.com/c-fm23-tactics.html?id=9902
I'm currently using this tactic with Liverpool with latest update from sortitout (MacAllister and Szoboszlai in the squad). It works great, sometimes I have trouble away against big teams, but think thats quite normal and maybe gets better with time and better players... currently 23 games in the league (17 wins, 4 draw, 2 loses and 66-11 in goals). I just wonder what I should do when I got a red card? (only happen once in a home game vs Bournemouth, had a 2-0 lead and ended 2-1, but had a lot of trouble with only 10 men.
I would take out the striker and make sure the wingers are on sit narrow to avoid the players struggling for a passing option
This is the best tactic that i used in this FM, great results,very low conceded goals, great play.Only one problem i find with this, the striker it's useless.I am with Maritimo, in Portugal, second seson, media prediction 7, i assemble a good team from Brazil, and at ST i have Lazaro, maybe you people know him, in FM21 was a wonderkid,and his stats after 12 matches are 0 goals, 0 assists and avarage rating of 6,33, i used him as a CFA for 5 matches, it was bad, ok his is not a complete forward, his a AF or F9, i used him as a F9, a little bit better but stil kinda meh. The team plays very good, 12 matches in the league 11 W 1 D.
Just what i have been looking for will give it ago
Enjoy mate
Let’s go Lee, let us know how it goes
How do i get the hold the ball option for the forward
Hi how do i get the transfer ban database that u did a video on? Great videos keep it up
What did you do for traing on console
what were the trainings used for this tactic? thanks
Standard but hood has released one and I have one on my patreon which would help it further
Can you do a rebuild with haloed petah ticket from the Israeli second division they won 5 titles in a row and they are in the normal game
Maybe…
Think it would be a good idea to do a spurs rebuild with ange postaglue tactics in fm
Awesome, keep up the good work guys. I look forward to trying this out. But to be fair most of the gyr tactics work on console. I only play on console, so always trying them out. Keep em coming 🤜🤛
Glad to know that is the case! Keep us posted on any you do try!
Few people have told me this but was nice to be able to find out during the testing process thanks to Kev downloading it on patreon early and sending me the info.
@@HoodGamingUK I certainly will 👍
@@GYRFM Great work mate!
If you don’t have a good complete forward like in lower leagues can you get away with just putting a pressing forward/deep lying forward in that role?
I’d always suggest leaving the role as is. I personally don’t think star ratings matter too much in FM
@@HoodGamingUK ok cheers
I tried pressing forward and it doesn't work. Don't worry if they aren't amazing at the role aslong as they can play the position they will be OK. The tactic needs the role as they are to get the overall team movement to work.
@@GYRFM ok cheers and keep up the good work!
@@notouriosdja No problem, enjoy!
would it work with a TQ up top?
Not as well but give it a try, an f9 might be ok also.
Can it work with my Spurs? I got Kvaratskhelia Son Fati Yeremi Pino Asensio, Who I put striker?
I don't see why it wouldn't work with Spurs. Personally I'd start with Son as the main striker.
@@HoodGamingUK id copy it, I hope that on console works the same, thanks in advance
@@HoodGamingUKi wrote to you on Instagram
@@giuseppepresutto1009nice attack that. Where did Kane go out of interest? That bunch will be fine with it. Who are the centre midfielders?
@@GYRFM whats your social I send you my team
Can I use an advanced forward instead of a complete forward? Or will it not work.
We recommend not changing things. The complete forward is there to link the play and an Advanced Forward won’t do that. I’d suggest getting your striker to train the position and he will be a natural by the end of the season
What is the point of the tackle harder instructions? I get so many yellow and red cards using it
They seem to help for some reason on the game but take them off if it is causing more problems than they are worth and try it that way
How would shoot less often work for the forward? Never seen that before
Because they look for a better option and a higher percentage scoring chance
@HoodGamingUK fair enough, G's tactics have never let me down, so I'll definitely give it a bash 👍
@@HoodGamingUKexactly this and the short passing means they pick the ball up outside the area more often. Was seeing some strikers just take a pop then and wasting the opportunity.
@@iaintaylor5116I tried to improve the previous versions with tweaks by myself and, among other things, deactivated "Shoot less often". The result was that the whole team's game was more focused on the striker and everyone played a little more "for him". This made it much easier for the AI to defend the attacks if they have a defender on the pitch with good stats in marking. With "Shoot Less often" the striker participated much better in the game, the whole team played better together and the whole attacking game became more unpredictable because of the movements, swapping positions etc. practically everyone can be a goal threat.
@KevVakarian awesome, makes perfect sense now, thanks for that. Should work a treat with my current save
Will this work on the moon with a team mostly consisting of mice?
Yes - we’ve tested it
Will test this for the next one 👍
Would this work with Arsenal side they have now ?
I don’t see why not…
@@HoodGamingUK Unbeaten in 5 games and the board love the fact I dominate possession in every game is a good start
Still unbeaten in 12 games and just beat Man City 5-0 who had won last 14 games simply wow love it
@@thanors1492love it!!!
Any Oi's?
Not on these tests. If your confident reading pass maps to judge the other teams playing style you can man mark the right positions using any tactic to contain them but they are not needed
working for lower leagues ?
We haven't tested it that low down, but I don't see why not!
@@HoodGamingUK
I think it will based on me messing about in different leagues but I wouldn't try it with the team predicted 24th. If your wrexham/Notts county or a team near the top 5 or 6 you'll be fine.
We did barrow before but I don't think they can tiki taka 😂
would it work for crystal palace
I don't think you'll get champions league but with the wingers they have I think you'll beat the teams around you or lower. Might need to update the squad to push europe. I'm thinking cms with high vision and passing
doesn't work for me. can u tell me why?
I mean, you've not given me lots of context there...
Oh oh oh, can I play?
You've plugged it in halfway through a season?
You've played like 5 games and not beaten teams 6-0 each time
You don't have the players for it?
Tactical familiarity is low?
ALL OF THE ABOVE
For best results, start using it in preseason. Let the players learn it, then you'll see results.
Doesnt work for me either. Newcastle save, bought good young players to fit the system. Decided to give it a season and ended up 14th, just been sacked. First time in FM 23 I've been sacked.
so anyways can you do 10 year build with Caldas
You thinking with this tactic? They keeping doing one in real life don't they 😂
Every strikers i have, have 1 star in this tactic. will that go fine?
Yeah don't worry. The game doesn't often consider strikers complete forwards unless they are one of the best in the game
This is abit tasty
Oh you know it!
Your a bit tasty❤ 😂
will this tactic work in the vanarama national
It will but I wouldn't use it with a team predicted to finish down the bottom. The style of play isn't really for underdogs. We used Villa as they are a midtable team with some good technical players. You will be playing teams of a similar level tho so short answer is yes haha.
thanks
just asking what would you say is a good gyr fm23 underdog tactic
@@kyleross4622 thor has been doing well on different saves and loki 2
@GYRFM do u by chance have a link to the vid
Hey I played a couple a games with the tactic on console and it has been very up and down for me is there anything i can do to fix it?
Who are you and who did you play?
I’m Aston Villa with a fairly good team but I’m losing against teams in the relegation zone and teams that I should be beating finished in 8th but the seasons before finished in the top 5 no clue what happened
Any opp instructions
Nope not needed. Can use them if your good at reading opposition pass maps tho
Will it work on mobile
Haven't tested it on mobile but I'm sure it should transition pretty well
thanks mate
Has anyone tried this on fm 24
We’re working on making this as good as it can be on this years game!!
Tactic is poor unless you are a big team like city or Liverpool. Used it for 16 games with Wolfsburg only won 4 and got knocked out of the cup by a 2nd Division team 😂
You’re right, forgot Slough are a UCL side 🤣🤣
Don't agree with this and we always test with team lower than elite. Villa and Slough being example. Happy to look at the save if you want to send it to see what's wrong with your setup 👍
using Man City to show a tactic is good is stupid 😂
But it’s based on Pep’s style 🤣🤣🤣
Pep built the team I built the tactic! Glad you like it!
Lol for people saying great tactic i was having a great season till i decided to use this, i just Lost 4 0 against brentford and i was in full force 😂😂😂😂
I think the mistake you made is changing midseason. The tactic is very good and is also a very specific style. I never recommend changing to any tactic mid way through the season esp if you are doing well. Finish the season out and then give your plays a summer to train.If you are on console same rule applies to changing a winning tactic- dont do it. Start the season with the one you want to use!
@@GYRFM yeah i know i just tested it because even though i was winning i wanted more goals and decided to see if it really is what they say, kept using it after a bit, changed some roles, it got better
@@andrecruz9380@andrecruz9380 it's a good one just needs the familiarity as it's not made to just get the most points it's made to get the most points playing a very particular style.
It might be the roles your switched to are more natural for the players if they haven't been training the new tactic much.
This tactic is fucking shite, lost against forest, Leicester and Brentford badly and only scored one goal in all matches
Let me guess, you’ve changed tactic mid-season and expected miracles? Bet your morale is in the bin and you’re not training your players on their roles as well?