David Fincher HATED this movie as he was under a lot I pressure at Fox, and jokingly said he rather slash his wrists rather than work on another Alien movie. He would later discuss it on a podcast, as fans may enjoy the film, he would never work on anymore Alien films after what he went through.
@@Alteori hey Alteori could you please review the official trailer for jurassic world camp cretaceous season 5 and please do more jurassic park/world dinosaurs/other animal Pov's and please review The Sea Beast when it comes out on netflix in July 8th and please do more how to train your dragon videos and please do more of Dragons the nine realms season 2 and 3
@@Alteori I'm really sorry but when dragons the nine realms came out despite the not so good animations and bad designs it pretty cool because there is so much lore and mystery to how to train your dragon like are there new dragon species that we have never seen before or are there extinct animals like dinosaurs and pterosaurs and others/ recently extinct animals like the passenger pigeon and the tasmanian tiger and others living in the hollow earth/ hidden world and are there human civilizations living and coexisting with dragons or other large/prehistoric organisms peacefully in the hidden world somewhere and i am a how to train your dragon fan though and though and I'm happy that we are moving into a new chapter in the httyd universe i know that some people do not like dragons the nine realms but there are others who like it very much and, also did you know that the jurassic world camp cretaceous season 5 official trailer is out
When I was a child, this was my favourite “Alien” movie because back then I rated films based on the number of humans the creature in that film killed.
The runner xenomorph looked cool. But felt unnecessary to kill Hicks and Newt. They could've had the colonial marines need her expertise again. Like Burt Gummer she chose to hunt xenomorphs and get paid.
I forget why they were killed off, originally that wasn't the plan, or so I've read online, so take that with a grain of salt, lol. The reasons can be found, I just don't remember right now. I want to say in Newt's case it was because this iteration came so long after Aliens that it was a matter of continuity. Carrie Henn had aged and it wouldn't have looked right but in regards to Michael Biehn I cannot remember why he was written out. If I remember right he wouldn't let them use his likeness either and is why he's so mangled in the opening scenes.
The reason Newt was killed off was because Vincent Ward was annoyed with the character. Hicks also died because Ward wanted Ripley to suffer and have some redemption quest. Ward wasn't terribly shy about his motives.
Wait, when I saw this movie, I saw the version with the dog, and I could have sworn that as Ripley falls, the chest burster does burst out of her chest but she holds onto it as they plummet into the molting metal. So either this version removed that too, or I’m just remembering wrong.
8:01, Richard Edlund, VFX supervisor, said in an interview that this was a rod puppet in front of a blue screen,but done with chemical composition to blend the foreground with the background, and some CGI was used for the debris blowing in the wind, as well the head cracking on the alien was a full fledged computer animation shot.
Alien 3 is a movie I don't like but I respect the people who had to deal with such a hellish production. It's a miracle they even released a finished product. Still would've preferred William Gibson's Alien 3, though. And its sequel.
f-ed over by the producers!the release date put out there even before anything was drawn or written down for the story! I loved the cinematography though!
William Gibson's script was weaker, tons of action, no Ripley and no Newt, just Hicks. The script opens with 2 aliens in the sulaco with no explanation and the third act was messy.
I actually loved this movie back when it was a Dog Alien and not a Cow but The Alien still looked and moved like it came from a Dog....why they changed that i have no Bloody Idea. Respect and keep up the epic work.
It was an Ox-burster to begin with, the Dog-burster came later because Fincher felt the Ox burster scene didn't work. Fincher presented Fox with a rough cut of the film without a burster scene, and Fox immediately questioned where the alien come from. Fincher then suggested doing it with a dog in the movie, but while Fox agreed to the change, they didn't give the film crew much money to do it properly, and that's why the dog version doesn't work very well either.
14:28 "A piece of someone's brain" is EXACTLY what I imagined when I first saw this scene as a kid but in all the years since I've never seen it mentioned anywhere so assumed it was just my overactive imagination as a child & it was probably just a chunk of reddish wiring or something. It's so weird to hear 2 decades later, someone describe my exact inner thoughts about this scene when I was a kid.
Superman can destroy a multiverse. Some acid isnt going to hurt him hes just gonna punch it out of existance or fly it outside the universe and leave it to float in the outervoid
@@asteranightshade2981 you would be right with many versions. However all comic book characters have that one hyper op giga wank version that is insanely strong like cosmic spiderman or hellbat batman.
Audible has an alternate Alien 3 version based on the original idea for number 3. Hicks and newt survive, it takes place in a completely different setting and the actors that played Hicks and Bishop return for the voice cast. Its awesome, its like listening to a full movie.
@@razorburn645 it's you that needs to grow up. Alien was never meant to be about happy endings, that's why A:R didn't work either. They're dead get over yourself ffs! 😂
I do like how this movie expanded the Xenomorph lore that the species can take on traits of the host, which means they can adapt to virtually any planet that has life. For instance imagine if a facehugger got into the Ocean and infected a whale!
Expanded even further with the Kenner toys that started coming out the same year. (And now they have NEW ones, that are over twice as big as the old versions! >_< l
The comics, games and toy lines loved the implications. Nagas, harpies, serpents, bulls, etc. All kinds of different shapes, sizes and classes of Xenomorph.
@@Tounushi I had almost all of them. My mum hated them and didn't wanna buy them, but did anyways! "Those things will give you nightmares!".. nahh, Freddy, Jason, Leprechaun, Pumpkinhead, and Robocop (the whole 'nenenenene' scene) had done well enough for that, by then. Aliens wasn't gonna add much. Lol
I'm pretty sure she screamed at that moment because she was anticipating its inner mouth jetting out and busting her head open. It lines up with the usual timing of their mouths doing that.
I like to pretend either the original Aliens comics or the William Gibson script are the true sequels depending on my mood. Gibson also said the stack of rejected scripts was a foot tall.
8:03 there is greenscreen there, but the Alien is 100% a rod puppet with 2 operators. I don't think the ability to mesh it together was quite there yet though, but it's interesting to me as an early example. I have a soft spot for this entry, but I like all of the Alien films in their own way too. I would much rather see different interpretations than a carbon copy franchise like how so many of them are nowadays.
1. I have to wonder if the excessive acid production was made with the intent of the cut were the Xenomorph had a dog host (cause drool) 2. I could swear I saw on a T.V. airing a cut where the Queen did burst out of Ripley as she fell, and she held it close to her. 3. 23:44 it's the hot new indie sci-fi horror game "Ripley and the Ink Machine"
Eric Red, David Twohy, and Vincent Ward did uncredited rewrites to the script. Renny Harlin, director of Die Hard 2, Nightmare on Elm Street 4, and Adventures Of Ford Fairlane, was considered. His idea was that they were going to go back to the Planet LV 426, finding out that there are more more alien eggs, leading to a final battle with Colonial Marines in Exo Suits and Xenomorphs. But this version would be too expensive to film.
When I saw this on the big screen Vincent Ward was credited for the story. Thankfully a lot of his story ideas were dropped. He wanted the penal colony to be on a wooden spaceship. Seriously. A. wooden. spaceship.
Gibson wrote 2 drafts then it was Eric red wrote a script then it was twohy then it was Ward/fasano the ward script was melded with an earlier prisoner story
Vincent Ward was credited as the story creator though, and they used 60% of his ideas. The monks were replaced by prisoners and they dress like monks and are ultra religious. The setting of the place is very archaic and rustic, and gothic. The alien comes from an animal instead of a human and adopts it's host features. The ending with Ripley falling to the fire is also Ward's, with the little change that instead in his script was a monk who saves Ripley walks into a wheat field on fire. It's basically Ward's script adapted to a prison by later rewrites.
@@Nomisdoowtsae Also, in Ward's script it was a monastery, not a penal colony, in the shape of a wooden planet. I agree that this idea wasn't good for this franchise.
11:25, the 2012 Blu Ray Version of The Assembly Cut is much better as they brought back some of the original actors to re dub their lines due to the equipment being too noisy.
Honestly, as dark and depressing Alien 3 is, I actually really enjoy this movie. I respect it’s bold move to take the Alien saga into a new direction to create sympathy for the characters.
Honestly I liked alien 3 cause it went back to the way it was in the first movie. One powerful xenomorph stalking it's prey Instead of them being bullet sponges like Aliens. Though if they had went closer with Geiger's original designs it be much more interesting.
Alien 3 is a far better movie than most people give it credit for, so I’m glad to see that Alteori generally likes it too, but I think she missed an important point. The reason this alien wasn’t a guy in a suit was because this movie established that the Aliens take on certain physical characteristics based on the differences in their hosts. The Alien in this movie came out of a dog or an ox depending on the version you watch, therefore it takes on a more quadrupedal shape, a “runner” alien as it’s called. Later, the toy line took this in an extreme direction with snake, scorpion, and bull alien variants among others, but back in 1992 the alien lifecycle/hierarchy was known to be egg, face hugger, chest burster, warrior drone or runner, and queen.
As I recall, Aliens was supposed to be the original end of the series with Ripley, Hicks, Newt and the remains of Bishop managing to escape and it being assumed they'd live. Then someone green lit Alien 3, yeah that wasn't a great idea. Though, 3 did have a few interesting bits but they weren't enough to save it. lol
Alien 3 was the death of scifi. When you kill off the entire reason for the franchise between movies, that the entire previous hit movie was about saving.
I don’t know, but I like the movie in general. Especially in the last scenes where there was the 1V1 against a xenomorph in the lead pit and Weyland showing up to reveal his true intentions with Ripley of acquiring the queen. And it was an interesting unique theme that it took place in a prison planet (all males prisoners) with no more weapons that changes the dynamic predicament with the xenomorph
It's all a matter of opinion, but I hate this one the most because it completely negates everything that happened in the second one. What you have to understand is that for me aliens came out in 1986 and then aliens 3 came out in 1992, so for 6 years I thought it was a happy ending for the survivors and NOPE, it was all for nothing. 😭
There's a book series that DOES go off of the Aliens ending and completely ignores the third movie that's out in omnibus editions. We do get to see xenomorphs on Earth in that, which was one of the discarded ideas for the third movie! And it's out in omnibus editions, so... of course it's not a happy ending, but they're alive and fighting and in the Aliens universe that's about as good as it gets.
There's no happy ending, the scuttling of the facehugger can be quite clearly heard at the end credits suggesting there's one in the hypersleep chamber.Alien3 is an outstanding movie exactly the same vibe as the original.
It's a love-hate relationship with this movie. Saw it when it came out, at the ripe young age of like.. 11. The only thing to really 'get me' was the autopsy scene. Had to go take a min in the restroom to try and not be sick. Love it for the gritty nature of the entire thing, but hate that they killed off two of the best characters from the previous film. And it was my first introduction to both Charles Dance (later playing Tywin Lannister) and Charles Dutton (as Roc) whose roles I have enjoyed just about always, since. *Most* of what we see of the alien in this movie wasn't 'computer generated' (that liquid moment *was* a horrible render and angle of it running though! xD) , but full props (just with really bad bluescreening and rotoscoping work in many places). Medical room, being one of the crappier shots done that way. And the timing of that scream wasn't off. Screaming from build up anxieties and anticipation of horrible things can make a person scream before it happens. It's nerves. Happens all the time. Lots of accidents happen because of this very thing.
@@Alteori It's the only thing I've heard, officially. "We used it very minimally, for touch-ups", is the usual line, in this kind of case, from Hollywood. But certain other scenes were just too obvious. Like, I get the post they were going for in that 'loquid' shot (the part of four legged running, where both sets are near mid body)... but it just looks so junk from the angle! xD
Alien 3 had problems but it's always been my favourite so I'm glad to see it getting some love in the comments. A totally hostile environment for her. A lot of powerful performances by great character actors. I can understand the frustration people have about killing Hicks and Newt but if Hicks had been there, his strength and leadership as a soldier would have overshadowed Ripley in her own franchise. To allow her to lead he would have had to stay injured and that would have been poor writing in my opinion. Ripley needed to stay as the core of the franchise. They had to try new things with the alien and the film, otherwise, they would have copies too much from one of the first movies and that would have diminished them.
I think Morse survived his "letting the DRAGON out" stint and was moved to a different facility with a gag order on him after the events of this movie! He ended up revealing the accounts later in his life. Which may have been among many reasons the Military knew what to look for in Alien Resurrection! Though that's ONE account as some suspect W-Y still exists in Alien 4 timeline and the Doc was lying about "them being bought out by Walmart" to Ripley 8 in a deleted scene of her wondering W-Y fate over the time skip!
W/Y doesn't exist as a company by the time of Alien Resurrection, but there are some rumours suggesting it became a faction of some kind, largely due to Morses revelations about the alien, that much later the United Systems Military would somehow get hold of, however it's never been explained how it all fits in with the 4th movies timeline
@@RoaryUK Would make sense! The Doc could be telling the truth in that "Oh the company is gone, but not really! Their just not in the form Ripley or Original Ripley would remember them by" so he wasn't lying! He was just being a smart ass and telling the truth while hiding the truth at the same time! Would make sense with how Weir is a POS who loves to twist things if they benefit him
According to rumours from the script writers,Neill Blomkamp movie was about the Sulaco ship drifting in space after the emergencypods were released.On the ship there were a xenomorph hidden in the lower basement of the spaceship.After fifty years they are detected by another ship bringing colonists to a new terraformed planet for humans.They send in two robots to investigate.They find traces of dna in the ships database,and clones Hicks,Ripley and Newt. But as clones they don't remember anything of the events that took place in the alien3 movie. When they arrive at the colonists destinyplanet,the xenomorph starts to lay eggs. Then all humans on the planets are attacked and a war breaks out.Ripley,Hicks and Newt manages to escape in a spaceship they find in a cave. It is a engineer spaceship that takes them to the engineers homeplanet called"Paradise".But when they have left the spaceship,a deacon crawls out and makes a cliffhanger for a followup movie 😀
I'll always have a soft spot for alien 3.. I think it's becuase of the potential of the movie.. And that it's no where near as bad as people make it out to be.. The cast is again stellar, the setting is cool the new aliens (depending on what cut you watch) where also cool.. I think most of the hate comes from people at the time who assumed the story of newt would go on.. Like yeah Thas the way they should have gone but this is still OK.. I also don't hate alien resurrection
Fun fact: The alien in this movie is actually a practical puppet, but the way they operated it made it look unnatural like cgi. The only 2 times they used cgi was when the alien jumped out of the lead bath, and when it's skin started cracking, and that's it. Literally every other scene including the part with Ripley where you said it clearly wasn't there was done with a puppet. Meaning u were wrong. It indèed was there with Ripley.
The main story was good enough, but the transition from Aliens to Alien 3 was such lazy BS writing that people cannot suspend disbelief enough for it. Doesn't help they destroyed the ending of Aliens for it as well. And no, they killed the Queen, so somehow Eggs and and Queen Egg magically and suddenly appeared that they missed... no, it was just lazy writing to move to the next movie.
Alien was never about happy endings, but Lovecratian cosmic horror. It was always about the corruption of a company and things out of their control. Also, the egg theory implies two possibilities either the queen laid in the small ship Bishop was flying or Bishop himself had it hidden, In Aliens Bishop is fascinated by the face huggers. Either way, it didn't need to be explained, part of the franchise horror lies in the lovecraftian cosmic horror aspect of the unknown and unexplainable, the very first movie doesn't answer any of the questions that you wonder when you see the derelict ship with the space jockey and the hundreds of eggs.
@@acfan8253actually it does need to be explained since the queens egg sac was ripped off so she can't lay eggs and bishop showed no interest is getting a egg, he only showed interest in getting ripley off planet, nothing adds up and the fave hugger just appeared there for plot reasons
19:00 Since the xenomorph came from a dog or cow in this version the it is a small quadrupedal variation. This movie sets up the idea that the xenomorphs gain genetic traits from their hosts.
The alien in this movie was not CG. It was a puppet that was chromakeyed into its scenes. That is why the lighting is wrong on it. The "turning to water" effect is just is just the chromakey effect accidentally screening out part of the puppet.
They could have digitally composited Alien3 even in '92, but having already overspent on the movie Fox decided on the cheaper option. But what really is bizarre though, when it came to doing the Assembly Cut, they still didn't redo the alien fx shots even though the movie was put together digitally... very strange.
"They're like extra-men?" In the 60s and 70s after the XYY genetic condition (Jacobs syndrome) was discovered, some bad science correlated it with behavioral disorders, e.g. being more aggressive and violent. I don't know if Fury 161 is supposed to follow on that trope or if they mean they only have YY chromosomes (which is impossible with humans).
Fun fact about the alien from this movie: the CGI scenes are actually shot with the real puppet. It was a bit of an experimental process at the time. But basically the puppet is on a rig with puppeteers operating it and then its layered into the scene by playing frames over each other.... At least i think thats how it worked. But anyway it was dropped once CGI took off. Also at 19:31 i think Ripley's scream is a reaction to the aliens lips parting, as the second mouth is what it uses to merc people. Really like your vids.
The whole purpose of this movie was to end the Alien franchise in the worst was possible. Killing all the characters that people liked (Turns out Newt was supposed to be the new Ripley), ham fisting a bunch of useless philosophy that means nothing to the story, and only dealing with one xenomorph basically repeating the plot of the first movie. It's all such a waste.
A commendable attempt, if anybody saw some glimpses of Prometheus & co. from their crystal ball and decided "Hell No! We have to end this shitshow right here." Compared to the Covenant crew, these double-Y convicts seem like goddamn Nobel-laureates
It's pretty amazing how the Alien franchise should have been so easy to make good sequels out of, and yet Aliens remains the only sequel worth watching (and what a sequel it is!) while everything else afterwards has been not just bad but REALLY bad lol @@tapiolautavaara9532
Aside from a very reasonably objective/critical review of Alien 3, while synthed with a weird post-modern Jim Henson wit (which ='s charm), Alteori is completely hilarious; this was a grand review on a pair of levels of very positive levels.
Also, I never really hated this film. It was always one of my favorites. But I can't deny, it was really disappointing that Hicks and Newt were killed off. Then again, they made literally this up as they went along. Lots of script rewriting and chaos behind the scenes
It's honestly insane that they killed Newt. This character was brilliantly written by Cameron so that the franchise had a future. An adopted daughter of Ripley, who as a child outsmarted Aliens. A survivor of LV-426. They could have done so much with her, and Hicks both! A marine survivor, someone who can support Ripley. Who knows how tough she really is. All that potential just, killed off screen. Absolute madness imo.
_Alien³_ is a work of depressive realism, and I think most people fail to appreciate this. It has the best cinematography and acting in the franchise, and Goldenthal's score is outstanding. People who complain about its bleakness should know that horror films aren't supposed to have happy endings. It takes third place in my top ten films of all time. In contrast to what many people think, I have my suspicions that if Fincher had been given free reign, the final product would be _inferior_ to what we've got here. A bold claim, I know, but hear me out. His initial concept of a wooden planet was just ludicrous and I'm so glad it never went ahead. I also haven't liked any of Fincher's other movies, except for Panic Room, and I think that if he had been given complete creative control, his Alien picture would have been much less subtle in its themes of sacrifice and salvation, similar to the overtly biblical themes in Se7en, which I've always found self-indulgent and a bit pretentious. _Aliens_ was brash and overbearing, a film suited to a more immature audience who care only for gung-ho action. I think that's why Americans love it so much. Clearly this film has much more subtlety and nuance about it. At heart, it is a much more European film. The chestburster coming out of a dog evokes more of an emotional response from the audience, but it makes no sense, since the alien that emerges is the same size as the dog. The birth taking place in a slaughterhouse is very creepy, and I detect some religious symbolism. Jesus was born in a manger amongst oxen, and the alien here emerges from a bovine carcass in a macabre slaughterhouse. Ripley's swan dive into the fire has more emotional weight without the chestburster, as it suggests that she could indeed have been saved by the company. Having it burst out of her mere minutes after she declines Weyland's offer completely nullifies any sense of sacrifice, as she was going to die anyway. My only regret is that Goldenthal's phenomenal score for her death scene is edited to fit the shorter scene, diminishing its power. I also love the Golic subplot, which should never have been dropped. _Alien³_ is where the design of the creature was finally perfected. A feline finesse replaced the clunky man-in-a-rubber-suit vibe that dogged the earlier films. I'm glad they ditched the cumbersome tubes on its back, which really streamlines it into a lethal predator. Most of the rod puppet shots look pretty bad, but there are several shots that look phenomenal. It's too bad they didn't have the digital compositing tools we use today.
I unironically really like this movie. Especially with how they showed prison hierarchy, and especially how the xenomorphs vary in appearance with different hosts. Even the one-note prisoner characters are interesting and well-acted. Only thing I'm disappointed in, really, is what they did to Ripley's friends.
Interestingly, the shot in which the alien approaches her (when it looks like terrible cg), is actually the puppet that they made of the alien. Due to lighting and other filming issues, it came out looking really dodgy. That close up, aside from the audio, looks awesome though.
That wouldve added something. I mean why would they expect us to care about these perverts and freaks? We needed to care. If we had Hicks trying to get everyone together, that would be awesome. They couldve added to his character arc from Aliens. Then we wouldve had Newt running around more scared and helpless than ever
@@Alteori I've got my popcorn ready! I bought the Destruction DvD complete set way back when and haven't watched them in years so bring all of it! Hopefully it doesn't hurt your brain as much as the LBT reviews!
Double Y chromosome doesn’t make them a super man. Assuming they have XYY, they may have learning disabilities and severe acne, but in general the disease can be very subtle and go undiagnosed. If they are just YY, they ded.
Serious note on reptiles, highly recommend a crested gecko, easy to care for, tolerate handling, very soft little micro scales Mine will eat off a spoon or off my fingers, they eat a powdered diet that you mix with water to become a baby food consistency with weekly crickets for protein and enrichment. If you keep your house warm they don't need additional heat they don't technically need UVB but many people recommend a shade dweller UVB lamp
Oh look !~!! It's Tywin Lannister =) I remember so much watching GoT than asking myself: "Where have I seen this guy before..." Charles Dance; such a great actor in both those movie/serie.
I was 12 in 92, and I'm afraid I have to say that No! It wasn't hated, it's would never hope to live up to Alien and Aliens, but it was bloody good in it own right, and remains so. Its only be the done thing to shit talk it, and Resurrection for that matter, since the Internet became the high horse for people to shout their worthless opinions from.
I was 11 when this came out and I thought it was AWESOME! Alien 3 still holds a special place in my heart, even if it's just 'member-berries and nostalgia goggles.
30:47 actually we dont know.. see most of the point of this movie is showing you that there is hope for people even among the worst of the worst. i mention it before in a different comment..that inmate that sacrifice himself to capture the alien and save all other characters.. is one of the inmates that try to rape ripely. take that on account that character of the inmates have been given the chance of literally face their own personal demon by fighting the alien... plus the fact that the creator of bishop try to reason with Ripley instead of getting xenomorph by force... there is the possibility that they where telling the truth when telling Ripley that she could still have a chance at life.. and yes they want the alien... but maybe they ARE not planing in killing her... but Ripley gaves up that chance when she realize ... that like golic... humanity will always end up walking into the spider's web under the delusional promise of knowledge ... and its knowledge why the creator of bishop is here in person ... becouse the alien is Bio mechanical organism ... is way ahead of the androids wayland yutani has been making ..which have already traits of being base more in living organism than classic machine ..(which is the reason why when you open them up they look all organic and their circuits look like guts) truly the chance of a life time... and so ripley... the one sane person in an insane world does what she has to do
A couple of things I'd like to point out: 1- Almost all the Alien movement is puppeteering operated by a crew, not CGI. 2- It is amazing that we even got anything resembling a movie out of this shitshow of a production. this is my favorite movie in the series... (Assembly cut) Dillon is definitely my favorite character after Ripley in the whole series. It's by far the darkest, and most brutal of the series. but I'll also admit that the special effects of the Alien look like crap... Ripley is tired, pissed off, but not afraid any more. in Aliens, when she storms the nest and the fight with the Queen, Ripley is terrified throughout the fight, but focuses on saving Newt. in Alien 3, she gets to the point where she is actively searching for the Alien so this nightmare can end for the both of them. Yeah it's sad Hicks and Newt are killed, but also necessary for the ending they were going for. (Imagine if you'd have to see them killed brutally in the movie in contrast... either by the Xenomorph or the convicts...)
The other version of this movie "Spike" is a rottweiler. In that version, the alien is born out of the dog there is no bull ( so it's probably better you reviewed this version) due to your love of animals because the "birth" in the other version has a scene where you see the dog die.
Personal opinion I respect yours as well (also the other version there are fewer scenes of the bad CGI alien) and in Riplys death scene the Queen hatches but she grabs it and makes sure it dies with her. @19:27 what I believe to be happening is her scream is in anticipation of the alien opening its mouth shes knows what happens when its mouth opens "scream" hiss or not she's absolutely terrified of these creatures. IMO the yelp you see her do is out of panic and terror she expects to die when this happens.
It can be appreciated now , standing alone , but in context of the time, waited a long time to have a massive down beat in the intro and a slow downward spiral. It was 'alienating'.
Hello Alteori. Another ALIEN movie review video. Never seen this episode. Hmm, I think I might give this movie a chance if I find it on Roku, see how it is. Also, Alteori, I love to hear your opinions and theories of "what if" the Indominus Rex is an actual dinosaur and would it fare in the Mesozoic era. Anyway, another great video, Alteori, I like it, see you in the next one.
Cute kid. So much energy. I could listen to u tell stories all day, sweetie. Well edited. Very well narrated. You're really good at this. Keep building, and u will go far. Zero doubt about it. This was very entertaining. Thank You for all of your efforts. 👍😉✌💯
People just can't forgive this movie for killing Hicks and Newt offscreen. Do you know the potential for Newt wasted in this film? They could have had so many sequels with just her alone. It was cinematic butchery to kill off this gift Cameron wrapped for the studio. A child saved by Ripley who was raised fighting the aliens. They could have aged her up and made some bangers. But they killed her off screen at the beginning of the movie. That just puts this movie in the shame tier sadly. Despite it not being all that bad by itself.
Alien 3 is my personal second favorite in the franchise (Alien is obviously my first favorite)! Genuinely, I pretty much love everything about it, despite all the production issues (which everyone and their mom has talked about to the point I care very little about talking about those issues). Heck, it doesn’t even anger me in the slightest that Newt and Hicks died. Totally doesn’t deserve all the hate it gets. And honestly, I feel like it gets so much hate only cuz “it’s not like the second film.”
In isolation there’s parts of Alien 3 that are pretty good. The problem however is that the studio meddled with it so badly and invalidated the last movie to such an extent that it’s really no wonder it’s considered the black sheep of the franchise (or it would’ve been had even worse entries not kept on coming out).
Well, i pretty much liked that movie. It remembered me of the first one, where the Alien was the ruthless killing machine it always was supposed to be. Was just really sad what ripley had to go through
You have such a cute laugh! Luke, I've been watching for a while, and you're always on this BS where you'll have that high-pitched squeak and now I'm here for THAT AND an interesting review/narration 😄 🤣 ❤
Good video, I really enjoyed it. I think Alien^3 was the first one I got to see in the theatre. I'll always have a soft-spot in my heart for it, as it really got me hooked on the series. Thank you for making this video, it was really cute. @19:02 That is actually a puppet. @19:05 I think that's part of the rig that briefly shows just out from behind the table leg. There also seems to be a black matte line around the "adult" xenomorph. If you check out Alien Theory there is a breakdown of all the practical effects from the movie. The chest-burster xenomorph was in the enhanced version of this movie, is one of the only CGI shots in the movie. I definitely would have watched the theatrical version if this was the first time you'd seen this. Again, good video, parts of it made me laugh, I always enjoy your videos. Thank you. If you've never seen "Alien: Resurrection", don't.
The Assembly Cut of Alien3 does have several cgi shots and most work pretty well, but the original release only ever had one shot, and was composited chemically, which also added it's own problems that was an issue with many movies of that time.
Thanks to David Fincher for stepping in to direct. It could have been much worse. Vincent Wards version sounds so dumb. Also wow they changed the origin of the alien! You mean somewhere a studio exec is actually aware people dont like seeing the doggo getting hurt?
It's a movie. Who cares if it's a dog or a cow. Also, I'm still appalled that you can basically use a chainsaw to eviscerate a human in a horror movie but noooo !! not animals !!!!
29:45 that's the most familiar alien scream for me. They used it for the queens in Alien: Trilogy. It's an old DOS game, kinda janky and crude, but suspenseful.
I went to the theater to see this movie, when it first came out and I was so excited!!! But after the opening scene where they killed off Newt and Hicks it went downhill from there. I was so mad and hated the opening of this movie that I didn’t even care they killed off Ripley at the end of it. The dog alien I thought was really cool but I thought the special effects were horrible in this movie. All they had to do is keep Newt in hyper sleep and let Hicks and Ripley run the show. And let’s not forget that Sigourney Weaver could have said “no” to the story line - money talks movie history walks !! Aka that piece of 💩 to come after”Alien resurrection”. Lol
There was so much left out but the director and crew were put on a rush job of a movie. Fox rush the crew and it felt a lot like a cash grab and a poor attempt to go back to the first movie where it's horror movie rather then a action flick.
I've only ever seen the theatrical cut, and I've always heard the "Assembly Cut" is superior, but I'm struggling to see in what way. Pretty sure they cut the part where Ripley requested permission to kill the Alien. She really should know Weyland/Yutani _way_ better than that by now. And, yeah, the chest-burster _does_ come bursting out of her chest as she's falling backwards in the theatrical cut, but she holds onto it. Not sure why they omitted that in this version. I suppose it might undercut her sacrifice a little bit when they demonstrate that there's absolutely no way she would've survived if she'd agreed to let them operate. Incidentally... isn't the team from the "rescue ship" the type of team one would've expected Weyland/Yutani to send in the first place? Ya know, instead of a group of blue-collar space truckers who have no idea what the hell they're doing or why. They might get better results if they stopped throwing nothing but cannon fodder at the problem, and started acting like they actually wanted to get their hands on this thing (for their ever-so-vague "bio-weapon" purposes).
"Like they're shooting a Evanescence video"
Well, that gives a whole new meeting to the lyrics "Wake me up inside" considering what's inside Ripley...
oh wow I didn't even think of that LOL
David Fincher HATED this movie as he was under a lot I pressure at Fox, and jokingly said he rather slash his wrists rather than work on another Alien movie. He would later discuss it on a podcast, as fans may enjoy the film, he would never work on anymore Alien films after what he went through.
oh damn lol. Poor guy
Poor David
@@Alteori hey Alteori could you please review the official trailer for jurassic world camp cretaceous season 5 and please do more jurassic park/world dinosaurs/other animal Pov's and please review The Sea Beast when it comes out on netflix in July 8th and please do more how to train your dragon videos and please do more of Dragons the nine realms season 2 and 3
@@clayharris7740 Ah man, can't I skip Nine Realms? 😭 The POVs and all stories are now going on Logicholic. All the older ones are still on here though
@@Alteori I'm really sorry but when dragons the nine realms came out despite the not so good animations and bad designs it pretty cool because there is so much lore and mystery to how to train your dragon like are there new dragon species that we have never seen before or are there extinct animals like dinosaurs and pterosaurs and others/ recently extinct animals like the passenger pigeon and the tasmanian tiger and others living in the hollow earth/ hidden world and are there human civilizations living and coexisting with dragons or other large/prehistoric organisms peacefully in the hidden world somewhere and i am a how to train your dragon fan though and though and I'm happy that we are moving into a new chapter in the httyd universe i know that some people do not like dragons the nine realms but there are others who like it very much and, also did you know that the jurassic world camp cretaceous season 5 official trailer is out
I remember a version of that final scene where it does burst out and she holds onto it as it screams as they both plummet into the molten lead.
Same
That was the original ending. I was working an AMC theater when this came out. Saw this movie waaay too many times.
Yeah, that is the version I remember
When I was a child, this was my favourite “Alien” movie because back then I rated films based on the number of humans the creature in that film killed.
But Aliens in the second film killed off like a whole colony of people though?
@@DarthBiomech True but off screen
Alien covenant: exists
Valid reasoning
The runner xenomorph looked cool. But felt unnecessary to kill Hicks and Newt. They could've had the colonial marines need her expertise again. Like Burt Gummer she chose to hunt xenomorphs and get paid.
@Joshua 1992 Well Supergirl is a kryptonian so she could probably tear the Queen in half. 🤷
Actually hicks survived it some dude who fell in the stacis hicks maybe alive it was reveald and reveald in the channel deadmeat
@@cato_sicarius Is Colonial Marines canon though. I played it before, and bought it multiple times as a kid. Before I released how buggy it was.
I forget why they were killed off, originally that wasn't the plan, or so I've read online, so take that with a grain of salt, lol. The reasons can be found, I just don't remember right now. I want to say in Newt's case it was because this iteration came so long after Aliens that it was a matter of continuity. Carrie Henn had aged and it wouldn't have looked right but in regards to Michael Biehn I cannot remember why he was written out. If I remember right he wouldn't let them use his likeness either and is why he's so mangled in the opening scenes.
The reason Newt was killed off was because Vincent Ward was annoyed with the character. Hicks also died because Ward wanted Ripley to suffer and have some redemption quest. Ward wasn't terribly shy about his motives.
Wait, when I saw this movie, I saw the version with the dog, and I could have sworn that as Ripley falls, the chest burster does burst out of her chest but she holds onto it as they plummet into the molting metal. So either this version removed that too, or I’m just remembering wrong.
Yeah they removed that.
OMG I REMEMBER THAT TOOOO But I thought I was Mandela Effecting
@@Alteori assembly cut.. David fincher got fucked over and wasn’t allowed to edit it.. two different versions
I own the version with the dog and the chestburster definitely does when she falls
@@caitlinwilder5982 Yea By us They play that version on tv lol with the dog
8:01, Richard Edlund, VFX supervisor, said in an interview that this was a rod puppet in front of a blue screen,but done with chemical composition to blend the foreground with the background, and some CGI was used for the debris blowing in the wind, as well the head cracking on the alien was a full fledged computer animation shot.
There's only one cgi shot in the original release of Alien3, that's the cracking head towards the end.
Alien 3 is a movie I don't like but I respect the people who had to deal with such a hellish production. It's a miracle they even released a finished product.
Still would've preferred William Gibson's Alien 3, though. And its sequel.
f-ed over by the producers!the release date put out there even before anything was drawn or written down for the story! I loved the cinematography though!
William Gibson's script was weaker, tons of action, no Ripley and no Newt, just Hicks. The script opens with 2 aliens in the sulaco with no explanation and the third act was messy.
The Assembly Cut is what we should have gotten from the start, albeit a few cuts here and there lol.
I actually loved this movie back when it was a Dog Alien and not a Cow but The Alien still looked and moved like it came from a Dog....why they changed that i have no Bloody Idea.
Respect and keep up the epic work.
@Purple Emerald Mostly as Newet would say lol.
I guess people kept asking where was it. The beef, that is.
like a cow xenomorph would be hella big and strong, probably someting like a living tank, a dog makes for a better scoute
@@rgama1173 agreed
It was an Ox-burster to begin with, the Dog-burster came later because Fincher felt the Ox burster scene didn't work. Fincher presented Fox with a rough cut of the film without a burster scene, and Fox immediately questioned where the alien come from. Fincher then suggested doing it with a dog in the movie, but while Fox agreed to the change, they didn't give the film crew much money to do it properly, and that's why the dog version doesn't work very well either.
14:28 "A piece of someone's brain" is EXACTLY what I imagined when I first saw this scene as a kid but in all the years since I've never seen it mentioned anywhere so assumed it was just my overactive imagination as a child & it was probably just a chunk of reddish wiring or something. It's so weird to hear 2 decades later, someone describe my exact inner thoughts about this scene when I was a kid.
Personally I liked this movie, I like how it shows the xenomorph's appearance depends on its host.
@Joshua 1992 if the xenomorph has kryptonian dna then xenomorph would win.
Superman can destroy a multiverse. Some acid isnt going to hurt him hes just gonna punch it out of existance or fly it outside the universe and leave it to float in the outervoid
Me, a slimy nerd: "actually the predalien in the comic came first" *puffs his inhaler*
@@Iron_potato40k pretty sure superman isn't multiuniversal, properly not even universal
@@asteranightshade2981 you would be right with many versions. However all comic book characters have that one hyper op giga wank version that is insanely strong like cosmic spiderman or hellbat batman.
Audible has an alternate Alien 3 version based on the original idea for number 3. Hicks and newt survive, it takes place in a completely different setting and the actors that played Hicks and Bishop return for the voice cast. Its awesome, its like listening to a full movie.
Hicks and Newt didnt belong in the first place. Fincher is based for killing them and Cameron is a hack, wanna be Spielberg for including them.
@@nathanpapp432Grow up man child.
@@razorburn645 Good one. Try making an argument next time.
@@nathanpapp432that is inaccurate
@@razorburn645 it's you that needs to grow up. Alien was never meant to be about happy endings, that's why A:R didn't work either. They're dead get over yourself ffs! 😂
I do like how this movie expanded the Xenomorph lore that the species can take on traits of the host, which means they can adapt to virtually any planet that has life.
For instance imagine if a facehugger got into the Ocean and infected a whale!
Expanded even further with the Kenner toys that started coming out the same year. (And now they have NEW ones, that are over twice as big as the old versions! >_< l
The comics, games and toy lines loved the implications. Nagas, harpies, serpents, bulls, etc. All kinds of different shapes, sizes and classes of Xenomorph.
There was one time when Batman went up against an xenomorph that came from a crocodile in a crossover comic
@@Tounushi I had almost all of them. My mum hated them and didn't wanna buy them, but did anyways! "Those things will give you nightmares!".. nahh, Freddy, Jason, Leprechaun, Pumpkinhead, and Robocop (the whole 'nenenenene' scene) had done well enough for that, by then. Aliens wasn't gonna add much. Lol
So many awesome ideas come out of this plot point, I’m particularly interested in a bear xenomorph. Just imagine how horrifying that would be?
I understand why people dislike this movie, but I always enjoyed it. The final Alien movie, in my book.
I'm pretty sure she screamed at that moment because she was anticipating its inner mouth jetting out and busting her head open. It lines up with the usual timing of their mouths doing that.
Yup! Anticipation of an imminent thing can spook a person just as much as the thing itself. The timing wasn't off.
I like to pretend either the original Aliens comics or the William Gibson script are the true sequels depending on my mood. Gibson also said the stack of rejected scripts was a foot tall.
There were 15 rejected scripts, hardly a stack but whatever lol.
8:03 there is greenscreen there, but the Alien is 100% a rod puppet with 2 operators. I don't think the ability to mesh it together was quite there yet though, but it's interesting to me as an early example.
I have a soft spot for this entry, but I like all of the Alien films in their own way too. I would much rather see different interpretations than a carbon copy franchise like how so many of them are nowadays.
1. I have to wonder if the excessive acid production was made with the intent of the cut were the Xenomorph had a dog host (cause drool)
2. I could swear I saw on a T.V. airing a cut where the Queen did burst out of Ripley as she fell, and she held it close to her.
3. 23:44 it's the hot new indie sci-fi horror game "Ripley and the Ink Machine"
you did see the queen burst out in tv, I saw it to, also have that version on dvd.
Thanks! Good to know I didn't imagine it.
Eric Red, David Twohy, and Vincent Ward did uncredited rewrites to the script. Renny Harlin, director of Die Hard 2, Nightmare on Elm Street 4, and Adventures Of Ford Fairlane, was considered. His idea was that they were going to go back to the Planet LV 426, finding out that there are more more alien eggs, leading to a final battle with Colonial Marines in Exo Suits and Xenomorphs. But this version would be too expensive to film.
When I saw this on the big screen Vincent Ward was credited for the story. Thankfully a lot of his story ideas were dropped. He wanted the penal colony to be on a wooden spaceship. Seriously. A. wooden. spaceship.
Gibson wrote 2 drafts then it was Eric red wrote a script then it was twohy then it was Ward/fasano the ward script was melded with an earlier prisoner story
Vincent Ward was credited as the story creator though, and they used 60% of his ideas. The monks were replaced by prisoners and they dress like monks and are ultra religious. The setting of the place is very archaic and rustic, and gothic. The alien comes from an animal instead of a human and adopts it's host features. The ending with Ripley falling to the fire is also Ward's, with the little change that instead in his script was a monk who saves Ripley walks into a wheat field on fire. It's basically Ward's script adapted to a prison by later rewrites.
@@Nomisdoowtsae Also, in Ward's script it was a monastery, not a penal colony, in the shape of a wooden planet. I agree that this idea wasn't good for this franchise.
That would've been so awesome.
To be honest I think the assembly cut of this movie is actually pretty good
Alien 3 Assembly Cut is better than Aliens.
@@nathanpapp432Based and Alien 3 pilled.
11:25, the 2012 Blu Ray Version of The Assembly Cut is much better as they brought back some of the original actors to re dub their lines due to the equipment being too noisy.
Fun fact: an early draft of this film got repurposed for the Vin Diesel movie, Pitch Black.
Honestly, as dark and depressing Alien 3 is, I actually really enjoy this movie. I respect it’s bold move to take the Alien saga into a new direction to create sympathy for the characters.
Honestly I liked alien 3 cause it went back to the way it was in the first movie. One powerful xenomorph stalking it's prey
Instead of them being bullet sponges like Aliens.
Though if they had went closer with Geiger's original designs it be much more interesting.
Alien 3 is a far better movie than most people give it credit for, so I’m glad to see that Alteori generally likes it too, but I think she missed an important point. The reason this alien wasn’t a guy in a suit was because this movie established that the Aliens take on certain physical characteristics based on the differences in their hosts. The Alien in this movie came out of a dog or an ox depending on the version you watch, therefore it takes on a more quadrupedal shape, a “runner” alien as it’s called. Later, the toy line took this in an extreme direction with snake, scorpion, and bull alien variants among others, but back in 1992 the alien lifecycle/hierarchy was known to be egg, face hugger, chest burster, warrior drone or runner, and queen.
As I recall, Aliens was supposed to be the original end of the series with Ripley, Hicks, Newt and the remains of Bishop managing to escape and it being assumed they'd live. Then someone green lit Alien 3, yeah that wasn't a great idea. Though, 3 did have a few interesting bits but they weren't enough to save it. lol
Alien 3 was the death of scifi. When you kill off the entire reason for the franchise between movies, that the entire previous hit movie was about saving.
15:00 one fan theory is that drool is actually 1 of the 2 chemical resin compounds a xenomorph secretes to build hives.
Mmmm this actually makes sense
The secrete it, spit it, and (being from an animal known to drool..) this one drools all over the place! xD
X isn't dead it's another solider X woke up during the attack of the ship "alien colonial Marians" ps3
I don’t know, but I like the movie in general. Especially in the last scenes where there was the 1V1 against a xenomorph in the lead pit and Weyland showing up to reveal his true intentions with Ripley of acquiring the queen.
And it was an interesting unique theme that it took place in a prison planet (all males prisoners) with no more weapons that changes the dynamic predicament with the xenomorph
@Joshua 1992 in Alien and Alien 3 is over 7-8 feet tall standing up in its two legs. But in Aliens are shown as shorter.
I have all the aliens up through resurrection, and this was pretty good, unlike resurrection which had more humor than horror.
This isn't insulting aliens but resurrection was more aliens than alien
It's all a matter of opinion, but I hate this one the most because it completely negates everything that happened in the second one. What you have to understand is that for me aliens came out in 1986 and then aliens 3 came out in 1992, so for 6 years I thought it was a happy ending for the survivors and NOPE, it was all for nothing. 😭
To be fair, that is how the Alien universe usually goes
@Random Platypus with Internet usually, read bro
There's a book series that DOES go off of the Aliens ending and completely ignores the third movie that's out in omnibus editions. We do get to see xenomorphs on Earth in that, which was one of the discarded ideas for the third movie! And it's out in omnibus editions, so... of course it's not a happy ending, but they're alive and fighting and in the Aliens universe that's about as good as it gets.
These are supposed to be horror movies. There's no place for happy endings.
There's no happy ending, the scuttling of the facehugger can be quite clearly heard at the end credits suggesting there's one in the hypersleep chamber.Alien3 is an outstanding movie exactly the same vibe as the original.
It's a love-hate relationship with this movie. Saw it when it came out, at the ripe young age of like.. 11. The only thing to really 'get me' was the autopsy scene. Had to go take a min in the restroom to try and not be sick. Love it for the gritty nature of the entire thing, but hate that they killed off two of the best characters from the previous film. And it was my first introduction to both Charles Dance (later playing Tywin Lannister) and Charles Dutton (as Roc) whose roles I have enjoyed just about always, since.
*Most* of what we see of the alien in this movie wasn't 'computer generated' (that liquid moment *was* a horrible render and angle of it running though! xD) , but full props (just with really bad bluescreening and rotoscoping work in many places). Medical room, being one of the crappier shots done that way.
And the timing of that scream wasn't off. Screaming from build up anxieties and anticipation of horrible things can make a person scream before it happens. It's nerves. Happens all the time. Lots of accidents happen because of this very thing.
I'll accept that scream thing but you said the vfx were NOT CGI!? What? 😄😆 It looked hilarious
@@Alteori It's the only thing I've heard, officially. "We used it very minimally, for touch-ups", is the usual line, in this kind of case, from Hollywood. But certain other scenes were just too obvious. Like, I get the post they were going for in that 'loquid' shot (the part of four legged running, where both sets are near mid body)... but it just looks so junk from the angle! xD
I love this movie, especially the theme song at the end of the movie. I cried when Ellen Ripley sacrifice herself to the new queen to be born.
8:51 - its 'Golic' . . . . . I should Know, ha ha ha ha ha ha
Great review, Alteori !
It's like they tried to put the series out of it's misery in the worst way possible, only to later revive it as a slapstick comedy.
Alien 3 had problems but it's always been my favourite so I'm glad to see it getting some love in the comments. A totally hostile environment for her. A lot of powerful performances by great character actors. I can understand the frustration people have about killing Hicks and Newt but if Hicks had been there, his strength and leadership as a soldier would have overshadowed Ripley in her own franchise. To allow her to lead he would have had to stay injured and that would have been poor writing in my opinion. Ripley needed to stay as the core of the franchise. They had to try new things with the alien and the film, otherwise, they would have copies too much from one of the first movies and that would have diminished them.
I think Morse survived his "letting the DRAGON out" stint and was moved to a different facility with a gag order on him after the events of this movie! He ended up revealing the accounts later in his life. Which may have been among many reasons the Military knew what to look for in Alien Resurrection! Though that's ONE account as some suspect W-Y still exists in Alien 4 timeline and the Doc was lying about "them being bought out by Walmart" to Ripley 8 in a deleted scene of her wondering W-Y fate over the time skip!
W/Y doesn't exist as a company by the time of Alien Resurrection, but there are some rumours suggesting it became a faction of some kind, largely due to Morses revelations about the alien, that much later the United Systems Military would somehow get hold of, however it's never been explained how it all fits in with the 4th movies timeline
@@RoaryUK Would make sense! The Doc could be telling the truth in that "Oh the company is gone, but not really! Their just not in the form Ripley or Original Ripley would remember them by" so he wasn't lying! He was just being a smart ass and telling the truth while hiding the truth at the same time! Would make sense with how Weir is a POS who loves to twist things if they benefit him
Alteori moments
19:15 Look at this!
23:25 Runaway Alien 🏃🏽
28:04 Pet Xenomorph 🥺
29:12 Poignant Xenomorph. MY FAVORITE ALTEORI MOMENT!! 😂😂😂😂😭😛🤣.
According to rumours from the script writers,Neill Blomkamp movie was about the Sulaco ship
drifting in space after the emergencypods were released.On the ship there were a xenomorph
hidden in the lower basement of the spaceship.After fifty years they are detected by another
ship bringing colonists to a new terraformed planet for humans.They send in two robots to
investigate.They find traces of dna in the ships database,and clones Hicks,Ripley and Newt.
But as clones they don't remember anything of the events that took place in the alien3 movie.
When they arrive at the colonists destinyplanet,the xenomorph starts to lay eggs.
Then all humans on the planets are attacked and a war breaks out.Ripley,Hicks and Newt manages to
escape in a spaceship they find in a cave. It is a engineer spaceship that takes them to the
engineers homeplanet called"Paradise".But when they have left the spaceship,a deacon crawls out
and makes a cliffhanger for a followup movie 😀
I'll always have a soft spot for alien 3.. I think it's becuase of the potential of the movie.. And that it's no where near as bad as people make it out to be.. The cast is again stellar, the setting is cool the new aliens (depending on what cut you watch) where also cool.. I think most of the hate comes from people at the time who assumed the story of newt would go on.. Like yeah Thas the way they should have gone but this is still OK.. I also don't hate alien resurrection
It was describe that the Vincent wards script was one of the best unmade Hollywood movies in history
@@ChakLok i always loved the one with the wood planet (even though it didn't make sense) I'd love if they made the unmade scripts as animated movies
@@mullaoslo all we can do is get copium
Fun fact: The alien in this movie is actually a practical puppet, but the way they operated it made it look unnatural like cgi. The only 2 times they used cgi was when the alien jumped out of the lead bath, and when it's skin started cracking, and that's it. Literally every other scene including the part with Ripley where you said it clearly wasn't there was done with a puppet. Meaning u were wrong. It indèed was there with Ripley.
There is only ONE cgi shot in the theatrical version of Alien3, that was the cracking head. Everything else was done practically.
The main story was good enough, but the transition from Aliens to Alien 3 was such lazy BS writing that people cannot suspend disbelief enough for it. Doesn't help they destroyed the ending of Aliens for it as well. And no, they killed the Queen, so somehow Eggs and and Queen Egg magically and suddenly appeared that they missed... no, it was just lazy writing to move to the next movie.
Alien was never about happy endings, but Lovecratian cosmic horror. It was always about the corruption of a company and things out of their control.
Also, the egg theory implies two possibilities either the queen laid in the small ship Bishop was flying or Bishop himself had it hidden, In Aliens Bishop is fascinated by the face huggers.
Either way, it didn't need to be explained, part of the franchise horror lies in the lovecraftian cosmic horror aspect of the unknown and unexplainable, the very first movie doesn't answer any of the questions that you wonder when you see the derelict ship with the space jockey and the hundreds of eggs.
@@acfan8253actually it does need to be explained since the queens egg sac was ripped off so she can't lay eggs and bishop showed no interest is getting a egg, he only showed interest in getting ripley off planet, nothing adds up and the fave hugger just appeared there for plot reasons
19:00 Since the xenomorph came from a dog or cow in this version the it is a small quadrupedal variation. This movie sets up the idea that the xenomorphs gain genetic traits from their hosts.
When the alien emerges, I believe it's actually a puppet superimposed over the film.
U are correct
The alien in this movie was not CG. It was a puppet that was chromakeyed into its scenes. That is why the lighting is wrong on it. The "turning to water" effect is just is just the chromakey effect accidentally screening out part of the puppet.
They could have digitally composited Alien3 even in '92, but having already overspent on the movie Fox decided on the cheaper option. But what really is bizarre though, when it came to doing the Assembly Cut, they still didn't redo the alien fx shots even though the movie was put together digitally... very strange.
Another great alien movie review.
To hell with this "everyone" you speak of. It's my absolute favorite of the tetralogy.
I didn't know they changed the pupper to a bull. I saw the pupper version in the theater. Poor poor Littlest Hobo.
"They're like extra-men?" In the 60s and 70s after the XYY genetic condition (Jacobs syndrome) was discovered, some bad science correlated it with behavioral disorders, e.g. being more aggressive and violent. I don't know if Fury 161 is supposed to follow on that trope or if they mean they only have YY chromosomes (which is impossible with humans).
Fun fact about the alien from this movie: the CGI scenes are actually shot with the real puppet. It was a bit of an experimental process at the time. But basically the puppet is on a rig with puppeteers operating it and then its layered into the scene by playing frames over each other.... At least i think thats how it worked. But anyway it was dropped once CGI took off. Also at 19:31 i think Ripley's scream is a reaction to the aliens lips parting, as the second mouth is what it uses to merc people. Really like your vids.
The whole purpose of this movie was to end the Alien franchise in the worst was possible. Killing all the characters that people liked (Turns out Newt was supposed to be the new Ripley), ham fisting a bunch of useless philosophy that means nothing to the story, and only dealing with one xenomorph basically repeating the plot of the first movie.
It's all such a waste.
Exactly
And the franchise has never recovered from the shitshow that is Alien 3.
A commendable attempt, if anybody saw some glimpses of Prometheus & co. from their crystal ball and decided "Hell No! We have to end this shitshow right here."
Compared to the Covenant crew, these double-Y convicts seem like goddamn Nobel-laureates
It's pretty amazing how the Alien franchise should have been so easy to make good sequels out of, and yet Aliens remains the only sequel worth watching (and what a sequel it is!) while everything else afterwards has been not just bad but REALLY bad lol @@tapiolautavaara9532
Some people just never get over it... but never mind. Alien3 is still great, end of! 😂
Aside from a very reasonably objective/critical review of Alien 3, while synthed with a weird post-modern Jim Henson wit (which ='s charm), Alteori is completely hilarious; this was a grand review on a pair of levels of very positive levels.
I had a bearded dragon, he had an infection on his eye and later died because of it. But, he lived a long and happy life. His name was Toothless.
I forgot this film existed
Lucky
Also, I never really hated this film. It was always one of my favorites. But I can't deny, it was really disappointing that Hicks and Newt were killed off. Then again, they made literally this up as they went along. Lots of script rewriting and chaos behind the scenes
It's honestly insane that they killed Newt. This character was brilliantly written by Cameron so that the franchise had a future. An adopted daughter of Ripley, who as a child outsmarted Aliens. A survivor of LV-426. They could have done so much with her, and Hicks both! A marine survivor, someone who can support Ripley. Who knows how tough she really is. All that potential just, killed off screen. Absolute madness imo.
_Alien³_ is a work of depressive realism, and I think most people fail to appreciate this. It has the best cinematography and acting in the franchise, and Goldenthal's score is outstanding. People who complain about its bleakness should know that horror films aren't supposed to have happy endings. It takes third place in my top ten films of all time.
In contrast to what many people think, I have my suspicions that if Fincher had been given free reign, the final product would be _inferior_ to what we've got here. A bold claim, I know, but hear me out. His initial concept of a wooden planet was just ludicrous and I'm so glad it never went ahead. I also haven't liked any of Fincher's other movies, except for Panic Room, and I think that if he had been given complete creative control, his Alien picture would have been much less subtle in its themes of sacrifice and salvation, similar to the overtly biblical themes in Se7en, which I've always found self-indulgent and a bit pretentious.
_Aliens_ was brash and overbearing, a film suited to a more immature audience who care only for gung-ho action. I think that's why Americans love it so much. Clearly this film has much more subtlety and nuance about it. At heart, it is a much more European film.
The chestburster coming out of a dog evokes more of an emotional response from the audience, but it makes no sense, since the alien that emerges is the same size as the dog. The birth taking place in a slaughterhouse is very creepy, and I detect some religious symbolism. Jesus was born in a manger amongst oxen, and the alien here emerges from a bovine carcass in a macabre slaughterhouse.
Ripley's swan dive into the fire has more emotional weight without the chestburster, as it suggests that she could indeed have been saved by the company. Having it burst out of her mere minutes after she declines Weyland's offer completely nullifies any sense of sacrifice, as she was going to die anyway.
My only regret is that Goldenthal's phenomenal score for her death scene is edited to fit the shorter scene, diminishing its power. I also love the Golic subplot, which should never have been dropped.
_Alien³_ is where the design of the creature was finally perfected. A feline finesse replaced the clunky man-in-a-rubber-suit vibe that dogged the earlier films. I'm glad they ditched the cumbersome tubes on its back, which really streamlines it into a lethal predator. Most of the rod puppet shots look pretty bad, but there are several shots that look phenomenal. It's too bad they didn't have the digital compositing tools we use today.
Nah. Alien³ is an Alien film for gothic hipsters who hang out on Tumblr waxing poetic posts about how life sucks. 😆
Plenty of us who love it are not emo hipsters.
I unironically really like this movie. Especially with how they showed prison hierarchy, and especially how the xenomorphs vary in appearance with different hosts.
Even the one-note prisoner characters are interesting and well-acted. Only thing I'm disappointed in, really, is what they did to Ripley's friends.
Interestingly, the shot in which the alien approaches her (when it looks like terrible cg), is actually the puppet that they made of the alien. Due to lighting and other filming issues, it came out looking really dodgy. That close up, aside from the audio, looks awesome though.
If Newt and Hicks had survived I think the movie would have been great.
That wouldve added something. I mean why would they expect us to care about these perverts and freaks? We needed to care. If we had Hicks trying to get everyone together, that would be awesome. They couldve added to his character arc from Aliens. Then we wouldve had Newt running around more scared and helpless than ever
Bit of movie trivia. The baby alien from the Ox is actually played by a dog in makeup.
Loving these abridged reviews! Are you going to cover the entire Alien universe (ie AvP, Prometheus, etc)?
DEFINITELY
@@Alteori I've got my popcorn ready! I bought the Destruction DvD complete set way back when and haven't watched them in years so bring all of it! Hopefully it doesn't hurt your brain as much as the LBT reviews!
Double Y chromosome doesn’t make them a super man. Assuming they have XYY, they may have learning disabilities and severe acne, but in general the disease can be very subtle and go undiagnosed. If they are just YY, they ded.
Serious note on reptiles, highly recommend a crested gecko, easy to care for, tolerate handling, very soft little micro scales
Mine will eat off a spoon or off my fingers, they eat a powdered diet that you mix with water to become a baby food consistency with weekly crickets for protein and enrichment. If you keep your house warm they don't need additional heat they don't technically need UVB but many people recommend a shade dweller UVB lamp
Love the mood of this movie. I didn't like it when I watched it as a kid and thought it was boring but I really enjoy it now. What an underrated gem
Oh look !~!! It's Tywin Lannister =)
I remember so much watching GoT than asking myself: "Where have I seen this guy before..."
Charles Dance; such a great actor in both those movie/serie.
I was 12 in 92, and I'm afraid I have to say that No! It wasn't hated, it's would never hope to live up to Alien and Aliens, but it was bloody good in it own right, and remains so. Its only be the done thing to shit talk it, and Resurrection for that matter, since the Internet became the high horse for people to shout their worthless opinions from.
27:32, this was nominated for Best Action Sequence as well at the 1993 MTV MOVIE AWARDS.
Very pleasantly surprised to see this video up so soon after the “Aliens” video. I love the Alien universe content on this channel.
Damn, Alteori be wildin' in this one. That pole segment had me rolling!
I was 11 when this came out and I thought it was AWESOME! Alien 3 still holds a special place in my heart, even if it's just 'member-berries and nostalgia goggles.
30:47 actually we dont know.. see most of the point of this movie is showing you that there is hope for people even among the worst of the worst. i mention it before in a different comment..that inmate that sacrifice himself to capture the alien and save all other characters.. is one of the inmates that try to rape ripely.
take that on account that character of the inmates have been given the chance of literally face their own personal demon by fighting the alien... plus the fact that the creator of bishop try to reason with Ripley instead of getting xenomorph by force...
there is the possibility that they where telling the truth when telling Ripley that she could still have a chance at life.. and yes they want the alien... but maybe they ARE not planing in killing her...
but Ripley gaves up that chance when she realize ... that like golic... humanity will always end up walking into the spider's web under the delusional promise of knowledge ...
and its knowledge why the creator of bishop is here in person ... becouse the alien is Bio mechanical organism ... is way ahead of the androids wayland yutani has been making ..which have already traits of being base more in living organism than classic machine ..(which is the reason why when you open them up they look all organic and their circuits look like guts)
truly the chance of a life time... and so ripley... the one sane person in an insane world does what she has to do
I liked this movie! It's not Aliens, but it's still fun. I found a lot of good enjoyable moments.
A couple of things I'd like to point out:
1- Almost all the Alien movement is puppeteering operated by a crew, not CGI.
2- It is amazing that we even got anything resembling a movie out of this shitshow of a production.
this is my favorite movie in the series... (Assembly cut)
Dillon is definitely my favorite character after Ripley in the whole series.
It's by far the darkest, and most brutal of the series.
but I'll also admit that the special effects of the Alien look like crap...
Ripley is tired, pissed off, but not afraid any more.
in Aliens, when she storms the nest and the fight with the Queen, Ripley is terrified throughout the fight, but focuses on saving Newt.
in Alien 3, she gets to the point where she is actively searching for the Alien so this nightmare can end for the both of them.
Yeah it's sad Hicks and Newt are killed, but also necessary for the ending they were going for.
(Imagine if you'd have to see them killed brutally in the movie in contrast... either by the Xenomorph or the convicts...)
The other version of this movie "Spike" is a rottweiler. In that version, the alien is born out of the dog there is no bull ( so it's probably better you reviewed this version) due to your love of animals because the "birth" in the other version has a scene where you see the dog die.
Personal opinion I respect yours as well (also the other version there are fewer scenes of the bad CGI alien) and in Riplys death scene the Queen hatches but she grabs it and makes sure it dies with her.
@19:27 what I believe to be happening is her scream is in anticipation of the alien opening its mouth shes knows what happens when its mouth opens "scream" hiss or not she's absolutely terrified of these creatures. IMO the yelp you see her do is out of panic and terror she expects to die when this happens.
The alien is not CGI. It's a rod puppet placed on a blue screen. The only CGI in this movie was the scene that shows the alien's head cracking
It can be appreciated now , standing alone , but in context of the time, waited a long time to have a massive down beat in the intro and a slow downward spiral. It was 'alienating'.
Hello Alteori.
Another ALIEN movie review video. Never seen this episode. Hmm, I think I might give this movie a chance if I find it on Roku, see how it is.
Also, Alteori, I love to hear your opinions and theories of "what if" the Indominus Rex is an actual dinosaur and would it fare in the Mesozoic era.
Anyway, another great video, Alteori, I like it, see you in the next one.
Cute kid. So much energy. I could listen to u tell stories all day, sweetie. Well edited. Very well narrated. You're really good at this. Keep building, and u will go far. Zero doubt about it. This was very entertaining. Thank You for all of your efforts. 👍😉✌💯
People just can't forgive this movie for killing Hicks and Newt offscreen. Do you know the potential for Newt wasted in this film? They could have had so many sequels with just her alone. It was cinematic butchery to kill off this gift Cameron wrapped for the studio. A child saved by Ripley who was raised fighting the aliens. They could have aged her up and made some bangers. But they killed her off screen at the beginning of the movie. That just puts this movie in the shame tier sadly. Despite it not being all that bad by itself.
I will never forgive them for killing off Newt and Hicks
Alien 3 is my personal second favorite in the franchise (Alien is obviously my first favorite)! Genuinely, I pretty much love everything about it, despite all the production issues (which everyone and their mom has talked about to the point I care very little about talking about those issues). Heck, it doesn’t even anger me in the slightest that Newt and Hicks died. Totally doesn’t deserve all the hate it gets. And honestly, I feel like it gets so much hate only cuz “it’s not like the second film.”
In isolation there’s parts of Alien 3 that are pretty good. The problem however is that the studio meddled with it so badly and invalidated the last movie to such an extent that it’s really no wonder it’s considered the black sheep of the franchise (or it would’ve been had even worse entries not kept on coming out).
Well, i pretty much liked that movie. It remembered me of the first one, where the Alien was the ruthless killing machine it always was supposed to be. Was just really sad what ripley had to go through
This has given me the nightmares in my childhood as I haven’t watched any alien movie prior to this
That's sad they cut out Spike. It was a pretty brutal death and dog skin flapping with the dog whimpering and sad moment.
Jesus. I don't want to remember that
30:30 huh, i remember seeing it burst out and she hugs it as they fall into the flames....
You have such a cute laugh! Luke, I've been watching for a while, and you're always on this BS where you'll have that high-pitched squeak and now I'm here for THAT AND an interesting review/narration 😄 🤣 ❤
Good video, I really enjoyed it. I think Alien^3 was the first one I got to see in the theatre. I'll always have a soft-spot in my heart for it, as it really got me hooked on the series. Thank you for making this video, it was really cute.
@19:02 That is actually a puppet. @19:05 I think that's part of the rig that briefly shows just out from behind the table leg. There also seems to be a black matte line around the "adult" xenomorph.
If you check out Alien Theory there is a breakdown of all the practical effects from the movie. The chest-burster xenomorph was in the enhanced version of this movie, is one of the only CGI shots in the movie. I definitely would have watched the theatrical version if this was the first time you'd seen this.
Again, good video, parts of it made me laugh, I always enjoy your videos. Thank you. If you've never seen "Alien: Resurrection", don't.
The Assembly Cut of Alien3 does have several cgi shots and most work pretty well, but the original release only ever had one shot, and was composited chemically, which also added it's own problems that was an issue with many movies of that time.
Thanks to David Fincher for stepping in to direct. It could have been much worse. Vincent Wards version sounds so dumb. Also wow they changed the origin of the alien! You mean somewhere a studio exec is actually aware people dont like seeing the doggo getting hurt?
It's a movie. Who cares if it's a dog or a cow.
Also, I'm still appalled that you can basically use a chainsaw to eviscerate a human in a horror movie but noooo !! not animals !!!!
Oh good, xenomorphs. I was wondering if they can acid treat metal better than my acid.
29:45 that's the most familiar alien scream for me. They used it for the queens in Alien: Trilogy. It's an old DOS game, kinda janky and crude, but suspenseful.
I went to the theater to see this movie, when it first came out and I was so excited!!! But after the opening scene where they killed off Newt and Hicks it went downhill from there. I was so mad and hated the opening of this movie that I didn’t even care they killed off Ripley at the end of it. The dog alien I thought was really cool but I thought the special effects were horrible in this movie. All they had to do is keep Newt in hyper sleep and let Hicks and Ripley run the show. And let’s not forget that Sigourney Weaver could have said “no” to the story line - money talks movie history walks !! Aka that piece of 💩 to come after”Alien resurrection”. Lol
Just to imagine what we could have had instead of the Alien 3 we got just makes me angry.
There was so much left out but the director and crew were put on a rush job of a movie. Fox rush the crew and it felt a lot like a cash grab and a poor attempt to go back to the first movie where it's horror movie rather then a action flick.
Also the Alien was made by practical effects and a rod puppet.
That’s not CGI for the Runner. It’s actually Rod puppetry with blue screens hence the odd coloring.
Luckily it exist only two Alien movies.
Alien and Aliens.
I've only ever seen the theatrical cut, and I've always heard the "Assembly Cut" is superior, but I'm struggling to see in what way. Pretty sure they cut the part where Ripley requested permission to kill the Alien. She really should know Weyland/Yutani _way_ better than that by now.
And, yeah, the chest-burster _does_ come bursting out of her chest as she's falling backwards in the theatrical cut, but she holds onto it. Not sure why they omitted that in this version. I suppose it might undercut her sacrifice a little bit when they demonstrate that there's absolutely no way she would've survived if she'd agreed to let them operate.
Incidentally... isn't the team from the "rescue ship" the type of team one would've expected Weyland/Yutani to send in the first place? Ya know, instead of a group of blue-collar space truckers who have no idea what the hell they're doing or why. They might get better results if they stopped throwing nothing but cannon fodder at the problem, and started acting like they actually wanted to get their hands on this thing (for their ever-so-vague "bio-weapon" purposes).
The Assembly Cut is superior and everything is there apart from the extended Newt autopsy and some of the prisoner outtakes.
Alien3 is the estranged black sheep of the family but with time you appreciate it more