Anatolia has never had a majority greek population. Hellenization of Anatolia was more of a greeco-roman cultural hegemony, deliberate destruction of local identities and cultures in favor of a greek language and roman identity than an actual migration.
@@NickStrife In the video, yes. You think Macedonians or Romans conquered these lands with flowers in their hands :) Btw the Seljuks were not even interested in Anatolia. Their main rival was Shia Fatimids, who were ally of the Romans. Unruly Turcomans constantly raided Anatolia and Roman Diogenes tried to get rid of the Seljuks for his personal prestige and gaining legiticamy but he failed badly. The main Turkic migration into Anatolia was after the Mongol Invasion. Before that, Turks were mostly busy with the riches of Iran and pastoral lands of Azerbajian and modern day Turkmenistan and Khorasan.
From Hittites to Assyrians, Persians or Alexander, Roman Empire and Byzantine, from Seljuks to Timur, from Suleiman to British invasion in Dardanelles... How many famous battles with great impact have been fought on this peninsula.
Only just joined but haven't they always dealt with the cultural and social issues that resulted from the battles or at least the entire war? Has it just been a very focused look at a battle or war. Describing the tactics, the reasons behind decisions, the various units and what they did and wore as armour or used as a weapon, etc. I find that quite surprising but I can get in to that if the videos are as well made and researched as this one. It's just any battle to some extent and every war to a far far larger extent has an effect on the region and its culture and society, even if it just stays nearby the same with small changes etc. In many cases the context, reason for the battle or war is hugely important and so are the lasting and immediate effects that result and its odd to find a channel that's do focused on the battles alone as basically every other channel that does videos on battles, units of warriors, weapons etc still goes off on a tangent to examine the whys, what's and wherefores rather than sticking to the battle, units, tactics etc alone. Hmmmmm I think that'll be very useful and interesting definitely going to be giving the back catalogue a run through.
That throat-singing in the background on every video featuring Mongolic/Turkic/Hunnic/steppe-y themes is hypnotising and chilling at the same time...! It makes a huge difference!
The Battle of Manzikert paved way for the Turkification of Anatolia which laid the seeds of the Ottoman empire which conquered Constantinople ending Rome and triggering the Age of Discovery which shaped much of the modern world,... A battle can only be this impactful
and conquest of anatolia is caused by battles between turkic nations and chinese empire, turks expanded through the west because of chinese suppression in the east asia which later caused the conquest of anatolia, and colonisation of world by western powers which also caused the fall of chinese empire and being a colony of western powers
@@aysenur6761 bu liberal trolleri çok takma, hoşlarına gitsen de hem fikir olsalarda yada çok alakasız bir yerde alakasız bir şekilde taşak geçmeye bayılırlar, bu şekil eğleniyorlar 😀
Seljuk Turks were about to form an alliance with Pechenegs to finish the Byzantine empire centuries before Ottomans but Alexios Komnenos prevented that by using another regional Turkic nomadic people, Cumans , against the upcoming threat indeed one of the greatest emperors of Eastern Rome
In my opinion early steppe nomads including the Turks were always strong warriors but they always fought between themselves until someone comes along unites them and then they wreak havoc in the world and then they split again and fight among themselves and this cycle repeats itself in history many times and Anatolia wasn't that different either when they first got there they still fought each other but this time they all agreed that they liked the place lol
@Paulo Ramos for gods sake. How can u be so naive and spreading false information. Aren't u guys tired of this. More than half of central asia belonged to turkic and Proto Mongol-Turkic tribes. Turks are many many different tribes who were blood related. It is not just the same family all the time. Huns, Proto Mongol-Turkic, ilkhaghnate, karakghanate, timuroids.. all were turkic !! Get ur facts right pls.
@@Neversa yeah yeah of course. The whole Turks were persian right ? U guys are just naive. That is such an incorrect statement and a lie that has never ever been heard of
Afshar Turkmen here. My great grandfathers in late 1800's, they were still living like notorious nomads around the Sivas,Kayseri and Adana. İt's great seeing this life in Kings and Generals too.
@@muksimulmaad7413 no, they were in constant conflict with the ottoman administration who tried to settle them down, in order to extract more "tax money".
@@muksimulmaad7413 nomads are not only hostile to the enemy but also to their own government. In fact the last Yörüks settled down in 2000's I believe.
someone please explain to avshars in turkey that they are turkic. a lot of them on the southeast are assimilated by kurds and literally even the tribes they claim they are a part of are well known turkmen tribes yet they believe they are kurds. well these outsiders who like to assume every turkic people out there are TuRkiFieD will never know or care about how turks are assimilated as we speak though.
same, anatolia, the balkas and the caucasus are to me the most interesting areas, as you said, the varios cultures, empires are so rich and interesting, to me is one of the most historic areas
not that much richness after a point in time. It has an amazing history up until the classical antiquety. Especially in the bronze age. Hittites lycians carians the legendary arzawans and troy and mycenean greeks , and then lydians and persians. After that it was hellenized and all these people just adopted the greek language and culture for the next 1500 years. Even after roman conquest region remained a greek world. Arab invasions were eventually succesfully beaten. Then Turks came.and history of the area became even more boring
@@vonzuchter Not that much richness after a point in time? Boring?? on what scientific study are these claims based? one of those chauvinistic arguments.. one of those flag-waving, "we-are-the-best" people.. How could you be so prejudiced?! Why can't you be at least a little bit open-minded and objective enough to see that people throughout history moved from one place to another to be able to survive. Our distant ancestors got out of Africa hundreds of thousands of years ago, ever since groups of people have been migrating across the planet. They have created different ways of living by doing so; various cultures and languages have come alive on this never-ending journey of ours. Then those people and cultures have met again and again, mingled with each other again and again, resulting in new mixtures. We are all related. We are genetically mixed, which is a scientific fact. AND We are the same species. We have made our mistakes so far. Let us stop pointing out fingers at each other.
@@sdtnyctk1406 You braindamaged? what scientific research makes something boring or not? it is what it is. Region has an amzing history up until the turkish conquest. Then NOTHING happened for almost 1000 years except the Timurid invasiom maybe. You have to go to the 1919-1922 war to find something interesting. Up until the turkish conquest region had amazing fasinating history with many emprires and cultures and conflicts an amazing mosaic of peoples and epic conflicts in the Bronze age in iron age in classical age in roman era , in bynatine era epic wars against the persians and the arabs. After Turkish conquest nothing. So yeah it became BORING.
I don’t know much about the hispanic bois, but here in Brazil the portuguese just arrived in waves, mostly retired soldiers, expeled jews, poor peasants, and married the converted friendly natives. Then came the slaves whose freed descendants, who were fully luso-brazilians, married the settlers or catholic natives too.
Oh boy, this'll sure rile the Greek and Turkish UA-cam warriors. (Nice video btw) Edit: I was right. Though I'm pleasantly surprised that some of the comments at least were sensible and thought out.
Im Greek, and not riles at all, its plain historical facts, we made a huge mistake and we paid for it, what can we do, only learn for the future if necessary
Pretty much. I mean, the Seljuk Turks are nomadic peoples so wherever they go, it is technically their new homeland so I don't know what is up with some people just complaining about it or they probably want to look for something to get angry at?
I love that kings and generals not only have consistent uploads makes wonderful content honestly as an avid scholar of history I have found this channel to be a godsend
I do believe this entire channel was somehow inspired by Total War games or others like ones made by Paradox Interactive, so it's quite natural for them to use media from fore mentioned sources.
Another great video as usual. For those who are curious about the ''responsibilities of the ghazi warrior'' mentioned in the video, one of the main factors that made Turks expand, I strongly suggest reading Halil Inalcik's books, which are also in English. He is considered the master of Turkish history, a lot of the things in this video also came through his researches which he spent his entire life on
@@jaang7424 As a start for the Ottoman state : 1 Halil İnalcık Devlet-i Aliyye 2Feridun Emecen Osmanlı imparatorluğunun kuruluş ve yükseliş tarihi 3 Mehmet Fuat Köprülü Osmanlı İmparatorluğu Kuruluşu but if you want to read books not only about the Ottoman Empire but also about other Turkish giants : Seljuks Selçuklular ibnü'l - verdi , Büyük Selçuklular Cihan Piyadeoğlu The book that starts from the Huns to the Uighur state : Bozkırın Kağanlıkları Ahmet Taşağıl only the European Hun state Attila ve Oğulları Hunlar Hüseyin Namık Orkun A book about Europe from the Huns to the Khazars : Türkler (Turkish) Theophanes Confessor'un Chronicle For general Turkish history : Türklerin tarihi (Pasifik'ten Akdeniz'e 2000 yıl) Jean - Paul Roux
@@jaang7424 Ghazi just means "warrior". Ghazi is a person who engages in the pastoral lifestyle of the ghazwa, was a form of limited warfare verging on brigandage that avoided head-on confrontations and instead emphasized raiding and looting, a term coming from Bedouin culture. Basically a Ghazi is a full time soldier, and as such he can maintain his profession only by partaking in raiding and expeditions regularly and as a full-time soldier he had a responsibility to expand the domains of his ruler and find plunder to maintain his property and weapons
@Huso Ucar Huso, its pretty bad luck buddy. No matter which way you skin it, your life, and the life of everyone in Modern Turkey would be infinitely better if you remained Hellenized and a part of Europe.
@Elvis Presley your news is state run big guy. Greece is a paradise comparatively. Simple things, like not having propagandists run our news is a freedom youll never experience. Not everything is about debt, of which Greek bond yields were in the negative for, pre pandemic (not that you know what bond yields are.) Also, how can i turk talk about economics when your dollar has devalued x4 in the past year. Every turk oj planet earth is LITERALLY 4X POORER in relation to themselves, 1 year ago, let alone the rest of the world who is in a boom due to low interest rates. Ouch.
Another excellent video. I've always wondered exactly how Christian, Greek-speaking Byzantine Anatolia became Muslim, Turkish-speaking Anatolia, and this video did a great job breaking it down. K&G nails it again!
Classic greek who doesn't want to believe in how Turks kicked them out from Anatolia. Also, it is East Rome not Greece. Last roman empire is Byzantium and today's greeks doesn't have any tie with ancient Rome.
@@frknmtl7832 I mean, he has a point, go check out genetics results for Turkey. In the long history of the Ottoman Empire, there were plenty of Anatolian Greeks who convered to Islam in order to gain status. Their descendants would have eventually intermarried with the ethnic Turks. I guarantee you, a large chunk of modern Turkey is simply a genetic mix of Greeks, Turks, Kurds, Armenians, and even traces of the ancient Anatolians like the Hittites.
@@terrificsoprano5025 you need more education over mediterranian history to speak over such a matter....greeks are in the same region for over 2500 years. the origin of greeks comes out from language which is an indo-europian language not from dna .... and bulgarians are turkic tribe who came from todays ukraine to balcans not slavs.
@@basileusandy9798 Many of the people in Turkey, especially around the Western and Northern regions will have considerably more European descent than others elsewhere. This is due to them mixing. And population growth happened a lot since 1071, so those 50-100,000 nomads from Central Asia probably do have many descendants. Occams razor, the guess with the least assumptions is probably the correct one, if no one there is really Turkic, why do many of Asian looking Turks come from seemingly white parents? I know plenty of people who have white parents but look like your average Central Asian, it's not uncommon in Turkey. You would have to assume all the nomads came, then either died off with 0 descendants or left. So it makes more sense to guess that most of the 82,000,000 probably were descended from the Central Asians than the idea they just said, "screw it, not Greek or Armenian or Arab or whatever anymore, I'm Turkic."
Not only history but genetically Anatolia is very rich as well. In paternal line, y-dna haplogroups alone there are more than a dozen different haplogroups. It's like a bridge between Europe, Asia and Middle East.
@@terrificsoprano5025 Uh oh.. don't let the Greeks hear this. They imagine themselves as pure "Europeans" (whatever that means). In 1920s alone there were more than 2 million Anatolian Greeks and Muslims in Greece had to migrate in forced population exchange. Greeks from Greece looked down on Anatolian Greeks and called them "yogurt eaters."
My grandfather was a Nomad in Southern Anatolia from Taurus Mountains. The Nomads of Anatolia are called "Yörük-Türkmen" which means "walking Turkmen".
These Nomads were hated a lot by the Ottomans that wanted nothing to do with them. Ottoman dynasty was more related to their Balkan muslims, beys and Pashas such as Albanians and Bosniaks. They viewed these nomads as lower and dumb.
@@hakanbaybars4435 In the 2nd half of the 15th century up to early 1800s most of prime ministers and important governors were Albanian and Bosnian. Some Georgians also. The Ottoman dynasty for a long period considered it an offence to be related to antolians turks. Is a fact.
@@torikeqi8710 there is a difference between dynasty and governors tho. Ottomans used educated slaves and non-Turks for high government positions because they are not noble or of Turkish blood so they can’t claim the throne. Also all centralized governments hated the nomads because you can’t tax them efficiently. But it is true that Ottomans didn’t associate themselves with their nomadic brethren.
@@ahmetaktas30 ottomans themselves used to be nomads, but by the time they created a kingdom which became an empire, they obviously didn't like nomads because all nomads are highly independent warlike people who hate any form of authority, meaning nomads didn't recognise ottoman rule, never payed taxes, and never acted as citizens or respected the sultan as every nomad is his own sultan
Are we interesting 🤭Roman and Turkic=Turkish..😂 Ottoman moved Slavic, Caucasian. Albanian. There are native Arab, Kurd, Georgian, Laz in Turkey. Tatar turkic came later. . Syrian, Afghan, Paki came newly. 😂 We are funny.. 😂 Very much culture, race..
Half of the people of Turkey carry the genes of ancient Anatolians such as Lydians, Carians and Phrygians, who Hellenized and later Turkified, rather than the genes of Central Asian and Siberian Turks.
on the other side of the mediterranean a similarly long lasting conquest was taking place. It also changed dramatically the cultural and religious outlook of the region. And it culminated in a global superpower as powerful as the ottomans. I just find it funny that Spanish and Turkish history mirror each other so well on this period.
@@Azhar_shaikh1 wow... first off conquistador is a name we use only when talking about the Americas. That's because they have certain quirks. They were frequently poor, pretty desperate people who went to the new world in search of riches...not unlike the Turk mercenaries we've seen in this video. They were brutal but not entirely dependant on the crown. They were essentially warlords vaguely promoted by the Spanish monarchs. Take into account that communication was pretty bad... Cortez conquered the Aztecs without permission...in fact, they explicitly told him not to do it. During the reconquista the prominent force were nobles and (in some cases) merchants, which had very different characteristics. Now, about Spain. Contrary to popular belief All Spanish kingdoms promoted Muslims and Jews to high ranks. If you've ever been Zaragoza you can just tell from the architecture. The society was pretty liquid. In fact our most famous hero El Cid Campeador, fought with the Moors against Christian kingdoms about as often as he did the contrary. Spain was about as multicultural as Europe got. it had problems but they were not genocidal terrorists. it was only at the very end of the reconquista that the Muslims and jews were expelled from the country...not killed. And I could talk long about why they did it. And then about the Americas...no Spain didn't genocide entire people's on purpose. Why? Because they wanted them to work and have children. Spain didn't send women to the new world, so the X factor had to come from somewhere. The best possible accusations are cultural genocide, mass rape, forced labour and accidental biological and viral mayhem, but Spain really wanted their natives to live and work. What did the conquistadores do?...well they were cutthroat mercenaries I expect about anything. I would be surprised to find a single honourable bone in Pizarro's corpse.
In the case of the Iberian peninsula, it resembles the komnenian reconquest, except that it was ultimately succesfull in preserving the the gains and repopulating the territory.
@@Vladklx well that term is misleading. Spain was Conquered rapidly in the 700's. By the 1200's can you really talk about a reconquest? Why? Because their grandgrandgrandgrandgrandgrandgrandgrandgrandgrandgrandgrandgrandgrandgrandgrandgrandgrandparents (maybe?) lived there? Btw...I didn't exaggerate that's roughly how back you have to go
"vikings raid and pillage monasteries and christian regions" modern westerners: "i actually like that" "turks. simply exist" again westerners: "ayy, barbariaannzz!"
@@mickeytwister4721 They are not racist but have some inferiority complex sometimes and also phobia, they fear something that doesn't exist. Because their media can cheat them very easily. Not in eastern but in western Europe some people still thinks Turkish Republic is hot desert camel people dress like arabs etc lol misconceptions bro dont give attention so much.
@@LuisAldamiz From genetic standpoint: Turks were never fully East Asian, we were Eurasian ( like Uralic people). Medieval Turks had between %45-%20 Eastern Eurasian admixture. Nowadays Kazakhs have around ~%60 Eastern Eurasian admixture while Anatolian Turks vary between %8 - %20. Both the Turkic people are mixed with other populations. I just wanted you guys to understand this. Medieval Turks were never looking like Mongols but rather like modern day Bashkir - Crimean Tatar - Uzbek. Since we were (Anatolian Turks) not fully East Asian like Mongols when we mixed with the natives our Western Eurasian components became even more prominent. And so we started to lose our "Central Asian" look.
15:30 the church shown in video looks like catholic church. Ortodox church is very similar to a Turkish mosque without minarets. Turkish islamic architecture has been heavily inspired by Byzantine after the capture of Constantinople and Hagia Sofia.
Greek history just exists in cycles where the first half is nigh unimaginable glory and victory and golden age conquests, then the second half is just doomer regaling how it all fell apart.
@@williamdavis9562 It doesn't really matter. All that matters is what they identify as. For example many Greeks of Asia minor and their descendants identify as Turks at this point. It doesn't matter what they once were.
@Who are you? only 1% of Xinjiang is altai mountains , the Tarim basin used to belong to indo European tocharian and saka people (google Tajiks of Xinjiang )
As a Greek Orthodox with origins from Constantinople and Smyrna I thank you for shedding some light on this part of our history, it is extremely important a bit sad for us.
You are probably just a greekified Anatolians rather than authentic greek. Basically a Greek speaking Orthodox Anatolian who has lost his native language.
I really like the military history stuff you guys do, but this sort of thing is for some reason even more interesting! I think that people talk about wars and stuff that you guys cover a lot, and it's great seeing you guys cover that too because you're good at it. But, when you cover cool topics that people look over or are not mentioned in history class, and you do it with the same depth and quality you give military topics, it's just next level and so absorbing.
@@太守苏定交趾 The irony is that China has been assimilating different people since several millenia, like Manchurians, Inner Mongolians, Uyghurs, Tibetans and native people in Southern China
@@sakisgiannakoudis3637, and this moment marked the beginning of the final end of that dream, even if the Germans claim that the Unholy German Confederate was maintaining such a dream.
@@hurguler Yep that’s true But sometimes a picture is equal 1000 words I think reading all of these complicated history won’t be worth much as watching an episode or short video like this one with animation and simulation I prefer this kind of ways to explain the history
@@turkmapping130 Turkish animal?? Only in Turkey they existed?? 😂 Wolf is common animal and it’s everywhere even Arabia has some . Unfortunately they are in denger. That’s why I chose my name to be “ ArabianWolf”cuz this wonderful species are facing extinction
You should make a series out of this. Before islam and christianity anatolia was pagan. There are still traditions from ancient anatolia. Couple of years ago Archeologists discovered an ancient tomb. Locals have been visiting this tomb in Physkos (todays marmaris) and praying for centuries.They said the person buried here was an islamic cleric. Upon some investigation researchers found out that this tomb also existed in christian times and was highly regarded as a christian saint. After some more research they found out the guy buried there was a boxer during ancient times. People forgot the reason the guy was known for but revering the tomb still continued for centuries. His name is Diagoras of Rhodes. And long before turks, greeks anatolia was home to some of the most ancient civilizations in the world. hittities, phrygians, urartians, lydians.
That is true. Also majority of Seljuks still had Tengriist practices which later embedded itself into the Islamic culture of Anatolia and the daily life.
Actually it's an Iranic name that we have malik both in arabic and persian but in persian malik is a little bit greater than shah, literally the name means king of kings or more persianised shahanshah
Seljuks are one of the most underrated political entities. They not only changed the political and ethnic make up of the middle east, but also created the Sunni Islam as we know it today.
@@RobertGuilman The Sunni Islam as we know it today with 4 different sects that acknowledge each other was built during the reign of the Seljuks. Obviously the belief was not created during the Seljuks, but Seljuks protected the faith and structured it.
It really clears some things up. Ive read about it. But seeing a map now makes clear that Cilician Armenia was directly next to the crusader states. That was the part that i did not understand. But now it is clear that it was next to the Mediterranean sea, and not next to Georgia. Therefore when people went to Jerusalem they had to go through Cilician Armenia (whenever they did not go with a boat of course). Any way, thank you for the upload! Greetings, Jeff
The same happened in Iranean Azerbaijan, where Turkic language and culture phased out the old Persian way of life. There are remnants of the old language speakers (the Talysh) but they are very few.
If you look back into the distant past of Hellas, Anatolia played a major part in its makeup. It was Asiatic Greece that got the Hellenes into the Persian Wars, and it was Anatolia by the Second Century A.D. that was the heartland of the Roman East. Anatolia from the late 3rd century till the 11th century was the political, economic, and military engine room of the Eastern Roman Empire. Since Manzikert the importance, economic vitality, and the military prowess of the Anatolians have always declined.
The looting, and the destruction of constantinople by the westerns in 1204. Caused the decline of Byzantine empire which eventually fallen by the Ottoman Turks and destroyed forever.
17:26 it's a very rare situation for a Christian man loves a Muslim woman at that time since Muslim women were covered. On the other hand, Muslim men (mostly soldiers) were encouraged to marry Christian women to accelerate the transformation of demography. We can see the outcome today that most of the Turks looks similar to Greeks instead of Turkic states in Central Asia.
Half of the people of Turkey carry the genes of ancient Anatolians such as Lydians, Carians and Phrygians, who Hellenized and later Turkified, rather than the genes of Central Asian and Siberian Turks.
@@SurenaofParthiaThe pontus and the aegean were mostly settled not assimilated, plus the most common y chromosomes in turkey are the same as in greece. And the local anatolians were cousin peoples to the greeks
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I am Anatolian Turkmen. My ancestors lived nomadic lives in the 1780s. The Ottomans forced it into settled life. My Turkmen ancestors, who are the Salmanlu tribe of the Bayat tribe of Oghuzs. Our State was destroyed by the Ottoman Empire, we are the Turkmens of the Dulkadirds Principality.
The Ottomans Anatolians have been opressing the steppe nomads for many centuries. They also killed any Crimean Tatar Khan who resisted Ottoman oppression and sent waves of Anatolian settlers into Crimea to assimilate the native steppe culture. The prophet Mohammed said that "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Turks; people with small eyes, red faces, and flat noses. Their faces will look like shields coated with leather. The Hour will not be established till you fight with people whose shoes are made of hair." (al-Bukhari Book 56 Hadith 141) The actual Turks had small eyes and small noses, Mongoloid in appearance and modern Anatolians are people who lived under the steppe nomads for centuries and now believe themselves to be their descendants. Atilla the Hun was also described by roman diplomats as having small noses and small eyes. But the Turkish government continues to spread great lies about the Turkic and steppe peoples. Hope this helps :)
@@TuwuAshina60 Sorry if offend you my friend. The turkmen as a whole are Mongoloid in appearance so they are actually Turkic, but the Ottoman turks are simply Greeks who use Turkic language and Islam.
@@nothingghicbirseyy5499 Only Nationalists can feel sad over historical events? Interesting take on the Holocaust. Jokes aside, The Romans struggled for a thousand years and Anatolia was in fact THE EMPIRE. Loss of it is tragic. Also even though the Turks would go on to create one of the greatest empires in the future, at that point they were just some nomads, destructive, and not so civilized. This bitter end of Rhomania is tragic.. And no I'm not greek
@@williamdavis9562 Sad not triggered. Like you should be sad while seeing a documentary about the massacre of the turks in the balkans, or the armenian genocide, or holocaust. Well if you don't feel sad over this type of historical events, then you are the odd one.
This was a wonderful video! It was the subject I did my thesis on at university, and I think it was an amazing job! The only improvement might have been correcting the assertion that the Christians were excluded from power. There is considerable body of contemporary evidence from both Greek and Islamic sources discussing the powerful presence of Greek Christian Nobility among the Emirs of the Seljuk Sultanate of Rum. They filled as large, or larger, and certainly equal part of the Sultan's court as Persian Officialdom did, and the Mixouvarvaroi nobility were often as much the cause of the back and forth of the continuous warfare and dynastic struggle, as anything else. I loved this video. Thank you Kings and Generals.
This is always a misconception. The word "byzantines" is fabricated after the fall of Eastern Roman Empire. They called themselves romans and only a few part of its population had greek ancestry, the rest were mostly celtic, latin, slavic and illyrian people!
@@rumipraetorian9716 they did call themselves Roman, and "Byzantine" was an appellation from later (and I did not claim otherwise), but Greek was not a minority. Greek language and culture was overwhelmingly dominant, and this identity became more prevalent as time went on. Slavic and Ilyrian peoples overwhelmingly displayed separatist tendencies - South Slavs, such as Serbs and Bulgars, overwhelmingly identified as independent peoples, not ruled by the Empire. Latin peoples never identified as Romans, and indeed were the primary party responsible for usurping and denying the Roman inheritance of the Eastern Empire. Celtic people were an extreme minority, and with the exception of within Justinian's conquests, would have only been a significant population in Galatia.
@@TheSamuraijim87 Take in mind that roman citizens were mostly of latin origin, after the roman conquest of anatolia, the majority of population became latins (with some celts and slavs) especially in the aristocracy, greeks in most cases didn't move away from today's Greece. After sometime the greek dynasties influenced the Eastern empire's language, religion and culture. So the civilian romans adopted greek customs even though they were not ethnically greek. This is a major reason why a common turkish DNA have a average of 30% compatibility with latin hablogroup according to ethnic studies
@@rumipraetorian9716 that's complete bogus. If the majority of civilians in Anatolia were of Latin Origin (they weren't), then Latin would easily have become the lingua franca of the East, and the Greek minority would have become assimilated. But the Romans never even tried this. You need to try reading histories which venture beyond questionable and politically biased DNA studies.
@@TheSamuraijim87 As I explained when the ruling class was dominated by greeks, they imposed the greek customs on roman citizens, so latin people shifted from latin language, culture to hellenization. Greeks ruled just some coastlines and few counties in anatolia and other than that there is no greek presence there.
Thank you for covering this. Many people tend to think the older populations in areas are killed off or pushed away outside of the borders when cultural/demographic changes occur, not always the case. Great episode yet again!
@@hugof3243 most of them are converts. Due to tax reasons in the past or because it was just an advantage tombe Muslim to be able to get into higher administrative position (except for financial position where orthodox Christians had better cards).
@@e.h.4789 "devşirme" which you mean by convert or tombe, was a privilege which was granted to a small number of People with extraordinary skills. So they were not and are not the majority. And we know the converted ones exactly, even the family names who are the descendants of the devşirme. Because we are an old state with an archiving tradition and keeping historical data. We have villages, towns and city settlements for Muslim Rum, Pomak and Slavs. They are acknowledged, and they themselves do not identify themselves as genetic Turks. Blood is not lemonade. No one would lose their racial conscience and betray their genetics. If that was slightly true, greeks having Turkic genes is a more plausible option since they are the subject to the Turkish rulers, not vice versa.
@@caligulathemademperor3457 you need to keep in mind the century these things happen. Societies have come a long way since WW2 and end of colonization, and embraced better values.
I watched a UA-cam video where four or five young Turks did dna tests. They were astonished by the large component of Greek ancestry they each carried.
I don't understand what your point is.@jackylynn I already know everything you told me, do you want me to feel embarrassed for it? If yes then I have to fail you, because I like of all my roots.
There is no such thing as pure 100% dna. Most of Turks in Turkey has 30-40% Central asia dna. As myself I look more closer to central asians or look turanid. Turkic countries aren't only 6 but 50 turkic groups and some of them will look different than others like Kıpchak turks who has blonde hair and colored eyes.
@@KingsandGenerals---I enjoy all of your video's. I found your channel a year ago. And have since watched pretty much all of your video's. And left a comment. You people do great work. Hey have you ever considered making a video on "The Russian Dunkirk." It's a real event that happened. If I could I would help with the research.
@@cevikatmaca61 Well, as a Greek and having a part of me descend from Pontus region, it woke the "lost lands" sentiment that is common even until today in Greek populace.
@@bobbatons1720 well, Im Turkish and ı think that we should respect each other’s countries’ respective borders and work for a peaceful and friendly future. :/ love from Izmir 🇹🇷💕🇬🇷
@@testnameplsignore6916 My friend I don't want war to take back Asia Minor. On the contrary I want Turks and Greeks to live in peace and let the past (and I don't mean Matzikert but the events of the previous century) behind. In all honesty, I believe Turks and Greeks have many things in common and actually their only big difference is that they adhere to different religions. I just express a sentiment where you had something and you lost it. Especially when many Greeks descent from that region. That's all. Trust me, no one (except some far right idiots) want to kill Turks and take back Izmir/Smyrna, Instabul/Constantinople, Trebizond etc. etc.
I was about to start my research on this to write for a story contest, and K&G hits me with it! This guys are awesome... It is like they knew what we need the most!
The number of nomads of Turkic origin that migrated to Anatolia is a matter of discussion. According to Ibn Sa'id al-Maghribi, there were 200,000 Turkmen tents in Denizli and its surrounding areas, 30,000 in Bolu and its environment, and about 100,000 in Kastamonu and its environment.[1][2] According to a Latin source at the end of the 12th century there were 100,000 nomadic tents in the regions of Denizli and Isparta.[3] A large part of Turkmens became sedentary. But up until 16th century, nomadic Turkmens made up a large part of the country. According to Ottoman tax archives, in modern-day Anatolia, in Anatolia Eyalet, Karaman Eyalet, Dulkadir Eyalet and Rûm Eyalet provinces there were about 872,610 households in the 1520s and 1530s; 160,564 of those households were nomadic, and the remainder were sedentary. Of four provinces, province of Anatolia had the largest nomadic population with 77,268 households. (note: province of Anatolia does not include entire Anatolia, it includes Western Anatolia and some parts of Northwestern Anatolia only) Between 1570 and 1580, 220,217 households of the total 1,360,474 households in the four provinces were nomadic which means, at least 20% of Anatolia was still nomadic in the 16th century Around 2,000,000 Turkic migrants settled in Anatolia during the 12th & 13th centuries[4] Opened the way for several million Oghuz tribes to settle in Anatolia[5] Therefore, as early as the 12th century, Western Europeans began to describe the Anatolia region as “Turkey-Turchia”, meaning “the land of the Turks”. [6]
For anyone wondering 3:34 the Armenian city of Ani that was pillaged by the Seljuks still has some of its ruins standing today in modern day Kars, Turkey. It’s worth a google search
11:54 Mixovarvaroi or Mixobarbaroi was first used by Ancient Greeks to describe people who speak Greek but not etnically Greek, such as Carians in the times of Plato. This term later used in the times of Constantine the Great to describe non-Romans of Christians who were Gots, Franks, Vizigots as suchs. In history everyone had been called mixobarbaroi except for the Greeks who had an ancient democracy. Indeed, democracy or common sense of population atmost important for people. Hope to have global democracy in the future.
@@iamleoooo You can read the subtitles, freeze the video or watch it again. Actually the level of English used isn't more advanced than university level history class.
Love the channel and the quality of the work you guys do, but being greek and since there are quite a few videos which are related to some parts of greek history over time, I have to mention this. Whenever there is a reference to a group of people and the word ends in "oi" the "o" is silent. in this case, for the word "mixovarvaroi" you can pronounce the "oi" at the end the same way you pronounce the "i" in Gallipoli for example. Or the same way you pronounce the "mi" in the same word. Again, many many thanks for the wonderfull work you guys do.
@@MrFirefox Mostly you are. I don't know anything about my heritage nor interested in it, but what I know is my family have spoken Turkish for generations, and I feel Turkish. I'm just happy with that.
Actually it is more persian architecture, byzantines (and later Turks) used half-spheres (and as for Turks exclusively, pointy minarets) rather than partial cones (which is envisioned in occidental stereotypes wrongfully)
@@skullsforerlikkhansthrone9306 While Islamic architecture varies greatly based on time and place, I don't think Zoroastrian temples ever had domes, while Roman churches already had domes during the Islamization of the Near East, so many early mosques were repurposed churches. This happens occasionally with Christian churches too, as the demographics of an area shifts, one denomination might sell the church to another. The St. Sava Orthodox Cathedral in New York for example, was a 19th century Protestant church before it was burned by an anarchist in 2016. As far as I know, the reconstruction plans to keep the original roof design.
@@Derna1804 The very first "domed" architectures was Roman in origin AFAIK. However, Persian style had a distinct, more conical than spherical domes. However, that specific style of "cones" were not used by the Byzantines, they continued the half-sphere style in Anatolia(the mistake in the vid lies in this), which later incorporated into Turkish architecture.
@Codex Cumanicus what you say is totally true coming from a Greek. Anatolian Greeks were completely different from mainland Greeks from ancient times. But they still were Greek
@@senor6370 There were Byzantine vertical sun and water mechanical clocks, on churches, that replaced by mechanical later, many saved up today. Clock technology spreaded centuries earlier from Byzantines to Venice to rest of Europe with book translations.
@@alehanedilko2147 not really, there were hunter gatherers, nomads, and e1b1b carrying levantine farmers (ancestors of cushites like Somalis, berbers, and anyone who carries over 90 percent e1b1b y dna)
@@benisrood Seljuks were already more Persians than Turkic at the time, then they absorbed even more Greek and Armenian elements. They've no right to call themselves Turkic 🤣
@@asakura5110 Too bad they gave the world's history and culture only great tragedies. Strength isn't everything, culture is much more important. Which the nomadic Turks completely lacked.
I'd be interested to look at the genetics of these places to see precisely what proportion of those nations are turkic. my suspicion is not much, not even in turkey itself. i remember thinking years ago when i had a turkish girlfriend, how similar her and her brother looked to the people in the mosiacs in the museums over there.
@@georget5874 Anatolian Turks are genetically a mix of Turkmens and Pre-Turkic Anatolians. I saw Gedmatch Dna Results from Anatolia, the Gene-pool is like: 40%Turkmen/60%Anatolian in Average.
Many of you expect a joke video on the 1st of April. The joke is practical - the joke video will come when you expect it the least.
So Emu War confirmed?
Do the history of rickroll. That will be legendary and unexpected lmao
The ~~Spanish~~ Turkish Inquisition!
Anatolia has never had a majority greek population. Hellenization of Anatolia was more of a greeco-roman cultural hegemony, deliberate destruction of local identities and cultures in favor of a greek language and roman identity than an actual migration.
@@NickStrife In the video, yes. You think Macedonians or Romans conquered these lands with flowers in their hands :)
Btw the Seljuks were not even interested in Anatolia. Their main rival was Shia Fatimids, who were ally of the Romans. Unruly Turcomans constantly raided Anatolia and Roman Diogenes tried to get rid of the Seljuks for his personal prestige and gaining legiticamy but he failed badly. The main Turkic migration into Anatolia was after the Mongol Invasion. Before that, Turks were mostly busy with the riches of Iran and pastoral lands of Azerbajian and modern day Turkmenistan and Khorasan.
From Hittites to Assyrians, Persians or Alexander, Roman Empire and Byzantine, from Seljuks to Timur, from Suleiman to British invasion in Dardanelles... How many famous battles with great impact have been fought on this peninsula.
There will be more to come as well
Imagine to the greek peninsula too. We the Greeks have a war history kinda..full
Turks are really successful people, they turkified both Xinjiang and Anatolia !😂
@@太守苏定交趾 booo
@@太守苏定交趾 tiananmen 1989
I love how the channel is also dabbling with cultural history now, not just military history
Yeah, its great
Only just joined but haven't they always dealt with the cultural and social issues that resulted from the battles or at least the entire war?
Has it just been a very focused look at a battle or war. Describing the tactics, the reasons behind decisions, the various units and what they did and wore as armour or used as a weapon, etc.
I find that quite surprising but I can get in to that if the videos are as well made and researched as this one. It's just any battle to some extent and every war to a far far larger extent has an effect on the region and its culture and society, even if it just stays nearby the same with small changes etc.
In many cases the context, reason for the battle or war is hugely important and so are the lasting and immediate effects that result and its odd to find a channel that's do focused on the battles alone as basically every other channel that does videos on battles, units of warriors, weapons etc still goes off on a tangent to examine the whys, what's and wherefores rather than sticking to the battle, units, tactics etc alone.
Hmmmmm I think that'll be very useful and interesting definitely going to be giving the back catalogue a run through.
Kings and Generals and Stewards
Their cultural and social videos are quickly becoming some of my favorite, and may already be.
This will create fractures among its viewer.
That throat-singing in the background on every video featuring Mongolic/Turkic/Hunnic/steppe-y themes is hypnotising and chilling at the same time...! It makes a huge difference!
@TRUTH CENSORED Belgium
It's the main theme of Total War: Attila
@@simonedagostino9358 THANKS! I didn't even know there was such a TW!
@@pavlos-zinondimitrakos9616 It's the best Total War, love that soundtrack!
That's so annoying to me
The Battle of Manzikert paved way for the Turkification of Anatolia which laid the seeds of the Ottoman empire which conquered Constantinople ending Rome and triggering the Age of Discovery which shaped much of the modern world,... A battle can only be this impactful
and conquest of anatolia is caused by battles between turkic nations and chinese empire, turks expanded through the west because of chinese suppression in the east asia which later caused the conquest of anatolia, and colonisation of world by western powers which also caused the fall of chinese empire and being a colony of western powers
This video is so well made that both Greeks and Turks can agree over it's quality
And that's kings and generals is an achievement
Indeed
Hats off.
As a Turk, i agreed
Indeed, although Anatolia became the shithole of the world for a great period of time.
@@withspiros buthurt greek alert 🤣🤣🤣
How can you guys make such long and quality videos that frequent, it's crazy!
It's called a content factory. They have a team of people who do this full time.
@@oneinca insanlarla nasıl iletişim kurulur öğretebilirim istersen birader
@@aysenur6761 Öğretir misin🐬🐬
@@oneinca aha liberal
@@aysenur6761 bu liberal trolleri çok takma, hoşlarına gitsen de hem fikir olsalarda yada çok alakasız bir yerde alakasız bir şekilde taşak geçmeye bayılırlar, bu şekil eğleniyorlar 😀
Seljuk Turks were about to form an alliance with Pechenegs to finish the Byzantine empire centuries before Ottomans but Alexios Komnenos prevented that by using another regional Turkic nomadic people, Cumans , against the upcoming threat indeed one of the greatest emperors of Eastern Rome
Yorumlara gelecek dolu troll
@@thewarriorfrog geldi bile
Indeed one of the best emperors cunning tactician great commander
Züğürt Tesellisi.
It would give fantastic results by the way, thinking of besieged by two nomadic armies from both Anatolia and Danube...
In my opinion early steppe nomads including the Turks were always strong warriors but they always fought between themselves until someone comes along unites them and then they wreak havoc in the world and then they split again and fight among themselves and this cycle repeats itself in history many times and Anatolia wasn't that different either when they first got there they still fought each other but this time they all agreed that they liked the place lol
@Paulo Ramos scythians - Turks - then Mongols....
@Paulo Ramos for gods sake. How can u be so naive and spreading false information. Aren't u guys tired of this. More than half of central asia belonged to turkic and Proto Mongol-Turkic tribes. Turks are many many different tribes who were blood related. It is not just the same family all the time. Huns, Proto Mongol-Turkic, ilkhaghnate, karakghanate, timuroids.. all were turkic !! Get ur facts right pls.
Seljuks were half-Persian at the time
@Paulo Ramosthe Steppes are the steppes and whoever came from there or raised from there are the nomads of the steppes turks/mongols or anyone else
@@Neversa yeah yeah of course. The whole Turks were persian right ? U guys are just naive. That is such an incorrect statement and a lie that has never ever been heard of
Sales person : "slaps Anatolia" this bad boy can fit so many Turks in it
Alp Arslan : do you take cash?
Ahahah lol
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I don't understand
These videos are always a treat
Afshar Turkmen here. My great grandfathers in late 1800's, they were still living like notorious nomads around the Sivas,Kayseri and Adana. İt's great seeing this life in Kings and Generals too.
notorious nomads? did they come rifles blazing take all the rugs? come on tell me something like that
@@muksimulmaad7413 no, they were in constant conflict with the ottoman administration who tried to settle them down, in order to extract more "tax money".
@@muksimulmaad7413 nomads are not only hostile to the enemy but also to their own government. In fact the last Yörüks settled down in 2000's I believe.
someone please explain to avshars in turkey that they are turkic. a lot of them on the southeast are assimilated by kurds and literally even the tribes they claim they are a part of are well known turkmen tribes yet they believe they are kurds. well these outsiders who like to assume every turkic people out there are TuRkiFieD will never know or care about how turks are assimilated as we speak though.
peach soda biji Kurdistan
Anatolia I feel has one of the most interesting histories of any areas. Just rich with so many different cultures
same, anatolia, the balkas and the caucasus are to me the most interesting areas, as you said, the varios cultures, empires are so rich and interesting, to me is one of the most historic areas
not that much richness after a point in time. It has an amazing history up until the classical antiquety. Especially in the bronze age. Hittites lycians carians the legendary arzawans and troy and mycenean greeks , and then lydians and persians. After that it was hellenized and all these people just adopted the greek language and culture for the next 1500 years. Even after roman conquest region remained a greek world. Arab invasions were eventually succesfully beaten. Then Turks came.and history of the area became even more boring
Not just history but genetically it is one of the richest regions in terms of haplogroups. More than a dozen haplogroups from paternal line alone.
@@vonzuchter Not that much richness after a point in time? Boring?? on what scientific study are these claims based? one of those chauvinistic arguments.. one of those flag-waving, "we-are-the-best" people.. How could you be so prejudiced?! Why can't you be at least a little bit open-minded and objective enough to see that people throughout history moved from one place to another to be able to survive. Our distant ancestors got out of Africa hundreds of thousands of years ago, ever since groups of people have been migrating across the planet. They have created different ways of living by doing so; various cultures and languages have come alive on this never-ending journey of ours. Then those people and cultures have met again and again, mingled with each other again and again, resulting in new mixtures. We are all related. We are genetically mixed, which is a scientific fact. AND We are the same species. We have made our mistakes so far. Let us stop pointing out fingers at each other.
@@sdtnyctk1406 You braindamaged? what scientific research makes something boring or not? it is what it is. Region has an amzing history up until the turkish conquest. Then NOTHING happened for almost 1000 years except the Timurid invasiom maybe. You have to go to the 1919-1922 war to find something interesting. Up until the turkish conquest region had amazing fasinating history with many emprires and cultures and conflicts an amazing mosaic of peoples and epic conflicts in the Bronze age in iron age in classical age in roman era , in bynatine era epic wars against the persians and the arabs. After Turkish conquest nothing. So yeah it became BORING.
Grand stuff!
"Hispanization of Americas" would also be very interesting.
Duly noted.
Hispanization. Thats a very interesting topic indeed, a combination of cultural assimiliation, sincretism and inmigration.
I don’t know much about the hispanic bois, but here in Brazil the portuguese just arrived in waves, mostly retired soldiers, expeled jews, poor peasants, and married the converted friendly natives. Then came the slaves whose freed descendants, who were fully luso-brazilians, married the settlers or catholic natives too.
Actually that happened after colonial period
And the whole arabization and re-latinification process in Iberia during the Reconquista
How many great videos will you make?
Kings and Generals: yes
Oh boy, this'll sure rile the Greek and Turkish UA-cam warriors.
(Nice video btw)
Edit: I was right. Though I'm pleasantly surprised that some of the comments at least were sensible and thought out.
They're coming
Im Greek, and not riles at all, its plain historical facts, we made a huge mistake and we paid for it, what can we do, only learn for the future if necessary
Probably they like... turks are turkified greeks, take contastinopole back from mongols etc..
@@valery2711 🤣🤣
Pretty much. I mean, the Seljuk Turks are nomadic peoples so wherever they go, it is technically their new homeland so I don't know what is up with some people just complaining about it or they probably want to look for something to get angry at?
I love that kings and generals not only have consistent uploads makes wonderful content honestly as an avid scholar of history I have found this channel to be a godsend
I noticed that you used the Attila Total War theme ,
I love that you use Total War soundtracks
Also great video by the way
while i love jeff van dyke attlia total war got some good tracks aswell.
I do believe this entire channel was somehow inspired by Total War games or others like ones made by Paradox Interactive, so it's quite natural for them to use media from fore mentioned sources.
@@alirezafalamarzi7062 indeed
And I'm glad since i love Total War games
(Especially Rome 1 , Medieval 2 , Shogun 2 and Attila)
thank you ı was triyng to remember the name of the theme
@@yigitaraz7101 you're welcome
It's the theme obviously
Another great video as usual. For those who are curious about the ''responsibilities of the ghazi warrior'' mentioned in the video, one of the main factors that made Turks expand, I strongly suggest reading Halil Inalcik's books, which are also in English. He is considered the master of Turkish history, a lot of the things in this video also came through his researches which he spent his entire life on
I'm curious about the "Ghazi Warrior" concept... which of Inalcik's books would you suggest as a starting point to learn more?
@@jaang7424 As a start for the Ottoman state :
1 Halil İnalcık Devlet-i Aliyye
2Feridun Emecen Osmanlı imparatorluğunun kuruluş ve yükseliş tarihi
3 Mehmet Fuat Köprülü Osmanlı İmparatorluğu Kuruluşu
but if you want to read books not only about the Ottoman Empire but also about other Turkish giants :
Seljuks
Selçuklular ibnü'l - verdi , Büyük Selçuklular Cihan Piyadeoğlu
The book that starts from the Huns to the Uighur state :
Bozkırın Kağanlıkları Ahmet Taşağıl
only the European Hun state
Attila ve Oğulları Hunlar Hüseyin Namık Orkun
A book about Europe from the Huns to the Khazars :
Türkler (Turkish) Theophanes Confessor'un Chronicle
For general Turkish history :
Türklerin tarihi (Pasifik'ten Akdeniz'e 2000 yıl) Jean - Paul Roux
@@jaang7424 Ghazi just means "warrior".
Ghazi is a person who engages in the pastoral lifestyle of the ghazwa, was a form of limited warfare verging on brigandage that avoided head-on confrontations and instead emphasized raiding and looting, a term coming from Bedouin culture.
Basically a Ghazi is a full time soldier, and as such he can maintain his profession only by partaking in raiding and expeditions regularly and as a full-time soldier he had a responsibility to expand the domains of his ruler and find plunder to maintain his property and weapons
@@SerxhioGjata Very interesting. Thank you for the explanation.
How many well researched videos kings and generals have in their drawers to upload so quickly? Don't stop, I am your longest big fan
Yes
It takes a team, and Kings and Generals seems to have the best of the best
I think Turkification of Anatolia is one of the most overlooked world historical events
and a very sad thing too :(
@Huso Ucar Huso, its pretty bad luck buddy. No matter which way you skin it, your life, and the life of everyone in Modern Turkey would be infinitely better if you remained Hellenized and a part of Europe.
It's mind boggling how it happened. Maybe there's hope...
@@frostflower5555, It is not mind-boggling; Western historians simply didn't pay enough attention it deserved
@Elvis Presley your news is state run big guy. Greece is a paradise comparatively. Simple things, like not having propagandists run our news is a freedom youll never experience. Not everything is about debt, of which Greek bond yields were in the negative for, pre pandemic (not that you know what bond yields are.) Also, how can i turk talk about economics when your dollar has devalued x4 in the past year. Every turk oj planet earth is LITERALLY 4X POORER in relation to themselves, 1 year ago, let alone the rest of the world who is in a boom due to low interest rates. Ouch.
13:16 The original Turkish salt guy
Lmao salt bae😂
It's Salt Bae for you
Lool 😂😂
Lmao
Can't believe nobody came up with this: he is Salt Bey, not Salt Bae.
My computer: It was released 5 minutes ago
The Comments Section: 8 hours ago
patreon release
@@norsie45 I know.
Another excellent video. I've always wondered exactly how Christian, Greek-speaking Byzantine Anatolia became Muslim, Turkish-speaking Anatolia, and this video did a great job breaking it down. K&G nails it again!
Hittites became a Greek-speaking people after Alexander and they became a Turkish-speaking people after Alparslan
@@frknmtl7832 then why do you look like Greeks. Take a genetic test and find out
@@frknmtl7832 Anatolian "Turks" have as much identity as white Americans in United States. That being said - none.
Classic greek who doesn't want to believe in how Turks kicked them out from Anatolia. Also, it is East Rome not Greece. Last roman empire is Byzantium and today's greeks doesn't have any tie with ancient Rome.
@@frknmtl7832 I mean, he has a point, go check out genetics results for Turkey. In the long history of the Ottoman Empire, there were plenty of Anatolian Greeks who convered to Islam in order to gain status. Their descendants would have eventually intermarried with the ethnic Turks. I guarantee you, a large chunk of modern Turkey is simply a genetic mix of Greeks, Turks, Kurds, Armenians, and even traces of the ancient Anatolians like the Hittites.
Anatolia is one of the most historial intermixing periods. Rome, Greece, Turkey and battleground of one of the most interesting battles.
Turks are really successful people, they turkified both Xinjiang and Anatolia !😂
@@terrificsoprano5025 you need more education over mediterranian history to speak over such a matter....greeks are in the same region for over 2500 years. the origin of greeks comes out from language which is an indo-europian language not from dna .... and bulgarians are turkic tribe who came from todays ukraine to balcans not slavs.
@@basileusandy9798 Many of the people in Turkey, especially around the Western and Northern regions will have considerably more European descent than others elsewhere. This is due to them mixing. And population growth happened a lot since 1071, so those 50-100,000 nomads from Central Asia probably do have many descendants. Occams razor, the guess with the least assumptions is probably the correct one, if no one there is really Turkic, why do many of Asian looking Turks come from seemingly white parents? I know plenty of people who have white parents but look like your average Central Asian, it's not uncommon in Turkey. You would have to assume all the nomads came, then either died off with 0 descendants or left. So it makes more sense to guess that most of the 82,000,000 probably were descended from the Central Asians than the idea they just said, "screw it, not Greek or Armenian or Arab or whatever anymore, I'm Turkic."
Not only history but genetically Anatolia is very rich as well. In paternal line, y-dna haplogroups alone there are more than a dozen different haplogroups. It's like a bridge between Europe, Asia and Middle East.
@@terrificsoprano5025 Uh oh.. don't let the Greeks hear this. They imagine themselves as pure "Europeans" (whatever that means). In 1920s alone there were more than 2 million Anatolian Greeks and Muslims in Greece had to migrate in forced population exchange. Greeks from Greece looked down on Anatolian Greeks and called them "yogurt eaters."
This should be displayed as history material at school.
@@paulcock8929 , yes
Turks are really successful people, they turkified both Xinjiang and Anatolia !😂
@@太守苏定交趾 lol
@@thekhans2823 you don’t agree with what I say?
True :D
My grandfather was a Nomad in Southern Anatolia from Taurus Mountains. The Nomads of Anatolia are called "Yörük-Türkmen" which means "walking Turkmen".
These Nomads were hated a lot by the Ottomans that wanted nothing to do with them.
Ottoman dynasty was more related to their Balkan muslims, beys and Pashas such as Albanians and Bosniaks.
They viewed these nomads as lower and dumb.
Did he rode ponies and living in Yurt?
@@hakanbaybars4435 In the 2nd half of the 15th century up to early 1800s most of prime ministers and important governors were Albanian and Bosnian. Some Georgians also.
The Ottoman dynasty for a long period considered it an offence to be related to antolians turks.
Is a fact.
@@torikeqi8710 there is a difference between dynasty and governors tho. Ottomans used educated slaves and non-Turks for high government positions because they are not noble or of Turkish blood so they can’t claim the throne. Also all centralized governments hated the nomads because you can’t tax them efficiently. But it is true that Ottomans didn’t associate themselves with their nomadic brethren.
@@ahmetaktas30 ottomans themselves used to be nomads, but by the time they created a kingdom which became an empire, they obviously didn't like nomads because all nomads are highly independent warlike people who hate any form of authority, meaning nomads didn't recognise ottoman rule, never payed taxes, and never acted as citizens or respected the sultan as every nomad is his own sultan
As a Native American, crazy to know I share genes and how far my distant cousins with central Asian blood ended up in Europe.
Are we interesting 🤭Roman and Turkic=Turkish..😂 Ottoman moved Slavic, Caucasian. Albanian. There are native Arab, Kurd, Georgian, Laz in Turkey. Tatar turkic came later. . Syrian, Afghan, Paki came newly. 😂 We are funny.. 😂 Very much culture, race..
Half of the people of Turkey carry the genes of ancient Anatolians such as Lydians, Carians and Phrygians, who Hellenized and later Turkified, rather than the genes of Central Asian and Siberian Turks.
@@SurenaofParthiahaha öyle bir şey yok uydurma
@@muhammetcakmak713 biraz öyle biz geldikten sonra yerliler puf diye yok olmadı
@@SurenaofParthia Yunanlılar asimile olmadılar. 1.5 milyon Yunanı anavatanlarına geri gönderdik. Çok azı İstanbulda kaldı
Video about Pechenegs would be amazing!!
I think Kings and Generals already made one; not sure, you should search.
@@NobleKorhedron not really but im pretty sure in the future we going to see a video about them
A good lmg with 100 bullet capacity
@@wololoooxd3288 not that type, the gun is named after the people
Great work the quality of the video is insane!!
🙌
on the other side of the mediterranean a similarly long lasting conquest was taking place. It also changed dramatically the cultural and religious outlook of the region. And it culminated in a global superpower as powerful as the ottomans.
I just find it funny that Spanish and Turkish history mirror each other so well on this period.
But spanish case was reconquest
Scarily similar in so many ways.
@@Azhar_shaikh1 wow... first off conquistador is a name we use only when talking about the Americas. That's because they have certain quirks. They were frequently poor, pretty desperate people who went to the new world in search of riches...not unlike the Turk mercenaries we've seen in this video. They were brutal but not entirely dependant on the crown. They were essentially warlords vaguely promoted by the Spanish monarchs. Take into account that communication was pretty bad... Cortez conquered the Aztecs without permission...in fact, they explicitly told him not to do it. During the reconquista the prominent force were nobles and (in some cases) merchants, which had very different characteristics. Now, about Spain. Contrary to popular belief All Spanish kingdoms promoted Muslims and Jews to high ranks. If you've ever been Zaragoza you can just tell from the architecture. The society was pretty liquid. In fact our most famous hero El Cid Campeador, fought with the Moors against Christian kingdoms about as often as he did the contrary. Spain was about as multicultural as Europe got. it had problems but they were not genocidal terrorists. it was only at the very end of the reconquista that the Muslims and jews were expelled from the country...not killed. And I could talk long about why they did it.
And then about the Americas...no Spain didn't genocide entire people's on purpose. Why? Because they wanted them to work and have children. Spain didn't send women to the new world, so the X factor had to come from somewhere. The best possible accusations are cultural genocide, mass rape, forced labour and accidental biological and viral mayhem, but Spain really wanted their natives to live and work. What did the conquistadores do?...well they were cutthroat mercenaries I expect about anything. I would be surprised to find a single honourable bone in Pizarro's corpse.
In the case of the Iberian peninsula, it resembles the komnenian reconquest, except that it was ultimately succesfull in preserving the the gains and repopulating the territory.
@@Vladklx well that term is misleading. Spain was Conquered rapidly in the 700's. By the 1200's can you really talk about a reconquest? Why? Because their grandgrandgrandgrandgrandgrandgrandgrandgrandgrandgrandgrandgrandgrandgrandgrandgrandgrandparents (maybe?) lived there?
Btw...I didn't exaggerate that's roughly how back you have to go
"vikings raid and pillage monasteries and christian regions"
modern westerners: "i actually like that"
"turks. simply exist"
again westerners: "ayy, barbariaannzz!"
@@mickeytwister4721 Like what?
@@mickeytwister4721 ahahhahaha what about since 1920 till 1960?
@@mickeytwister4721 who protected 40 years?
@@mickeytwister4721 They are not racist but have some inferiority complex sometimes and also phobia, they fear something that doesn't exist. Because their media can cheat them very easily. Not in eastern but in western Europe some people still thinks Turkish Republic is hot desert camel people dress like arabs etc lol misconceptions bro dont give attention so much.
@@mickeytwister4721 nope the europeans were the most as you can see the black slaves and the racial inequalitybin the americas
I was just wondering about this myself. Thank you for reading my mind!
I am working on a paper exactly on the subject, and this video comes out, crazy
It's a trap!
@@LuisAldamiz what do you mean Turkic genetics are missing in Anatolia? They for sure are not the dominant ones, but they are there.
@@LuisAldamiz yh exactly so turkification of modern turkey clearly didn’t reached into the genetics of the people
I would recommend Spiros Vryonis book for everyone willing go further on the decline of Byzantium and the rise of the Turks in Anatolia.
@@LuisAldamiz From genetic standpoint: Turks were never fully East Asian, we were Eurasian ( like Uralic people). Medieval Turks had between %45-%20 Eastern Eurasian admixture. Nowadays Kazakhs have around ~%60 Eastern Eurasian admixture while Anatolian Turks vary between %8 - %20. Both the Turkic people are mixed with other populations. I just wanted you guys to understand this. Medieval Turks were never looking like Mongols but rather like modern day Bashkir - Crimean Tatar - Uzbek. Since we were (Anatolian Turks) not fully East Asian like Mongols when we mixed with the natives our Western Eurasian components became even more prominent. And so we started to lose our "Central Asian" look.
This was very interesting and informative
Turks are really successful people, they turkified both Xinjiang and Anatolia !😂
Let’s all appreciate that this is *FREE* to watch.
Its a honor to be here early always glad to see you guys upload!
I'm sure the comment section will be civilised.
XD
Look at the replies.
No chance of that. Nothing is, if it pit the turks and the greeks....
Nice joke 😅
It is actually
15:30 the church shown in video looks like catholic church. Ortodox church is very similar to a Turkish mosque without minarets. Turkish islamic architecture has been heavily inspired by Byzantine after the capture of Constantinople and Hagia Sofia.
Greek history just exists in cycles where the first half is nigh unimaginable glory and victory and golden age conquests, then the second half is just doomer regaling how it all fell apart.
greek history fail's start with Turks. (hunnic empire , avars , gokturks , seljuk...
Indeed. Thanks to Marxism and the leftists.
It's world history.
It’s sad. The romans have glorious sucessor states even in the modern era. The greeks have a failed small state.
@Cemil Ekici you don’t have leftists in Turkey.
I've always wondered about the process of turkicization in Anatolia. There aren't many good explanations of it so I'm glad you touched on it!
@@williamdavis9562 This is correct.
@@williamdavis9562 If you go back far enough, everyone invaded some indigenous peoples land. That's just not good enough.
@@williamdavis9562 who was there before greeks invaded?
@@williamdavis9562 Sure. However, the Greeks and Turks are still around, but the native Anatolians, Hittites and others? Not so much.
@@williamdavis9562 It doesn't really matter. All that matters is what they identify as. For example many Greeks of Asia minor and their descendants identify as Turks at this point. It doesn't matter what they once were.
Can you do something about Fulani conquest of west Africa .
Il sure you can it +500k with it all your video on African history hit the million 🙂
Fulanis are like the Turks they were nomadic pastrol herders while they were strong warriors too.
Both played a role in the spread of Islam.
Holy shit I’m Fulani
@Mukhtar indeed my brother respect to the brave Somali warriors
Could Y make a video on Belgium ruling Congo ?
It feels like Armenians are surprisingly absent from this video? Wonderful video, I appreciate how direct it presents the information.
Armenians allied with Turks in Malzigert war. Byzantin church was trying to dominate them they were rivals.
Great work Kings and General. Turkic people history is so interesting.
Nice video.Could you make a video about the slavizisation of the Balkans?It is a really interesting event.
That sounds interesting but the sources are really scarce.
@@williamdavis9562 and yet there is not a single historical evidence of such event.
@@williamdavis9562 Lmao the balkans have always been a land of war. From the yamnaya culture till present day its been a war torn shithole
Amazing work guys! I have learned more history by watching all of your videos than i did 9 years in school
Dont take everything they say as accurate.
Turks are really successful people, they turkified both Xinjiang and Anatolia !😂
@Who are you? google Tajiks of Xinjiang before saying land of Turks
@Who are you? only 1% of Xinjiang is altai mountains , the Tarim basin used to belong to indo European tocharian and saka people (google Tajiks of Xinjiang )
@@太守苏定交趾 chinese commie bot who support genocide said what?
As a Greek Orthodox with origins from Constantinople and Smyrna I thank you for shedding some light on this part of our history, it is extremely important a bit sad for us.
I can feel you sadness :(
Shit happened mate now its past we are komshu and brothers no need to be sad or be foes.
You are probably just a greekified Anatolians rather than authentic greek.
Basically a Greek speaking Orthodox Anatolian who has lost his native language.
@@torikeqi8710 your argument can be said in both ways. Its better to not make assumptions.
I have a Rum gf (Anatolian Greek) gonna go for the good shit like my ancestors did haters gonna hate :DDDD
I really like the military history stuff you guys do, but this sort of thing is for some reason even more interesting!
I think that people talk about wars and stuff that you guys cover a lot, and it's great seeing you guys cover that too because you're good at it.
But, when you cover cool topics that people look over or are not mentioned in history class, and you do it with the same depth and quality you give military topics, it's just next level and so absorbing.
The topic like this in this video shouldn't be teaching at school because it make cause some you know "conflicts" should I say.
I hope the comments are peaceful
Me too my emperor
Emperor; if you pay your tribute we are so peaceful;)
@@berkin3086 yes yes we know very well how peaceful you are if you take if we give you your tribute
Turks are really successful people, they turkified both Xinjiang and Anatolia !😂
@@太守苏定交趾 The irony is that China has been assimilating different people since several millenia, like Manchurians, Inner Mongolians, Uyghurs, Tibetans and native people in Southern China
As Dovahhatty put it: There once was a dream, a dream that fell.
A dream to cleanse this rotten world from the barbarians that infest it - dovanhatty 2020
@@sakisgiannakoudis3637, and this moment marked the beginning of the final end of that dream, even if the Germans claim that the Unholy German Confederate was maintaining such a dream.
@@nathanpangilinan4397
Everyone is gangsta until Alparslan came...
His take on Aurelian was glorious
@@harzemsahtekin4441 more until the fourth crusade came.
This guy deserves a golden model
Man I’ve learned from his history channel more than my school + university + tales of elders
Thx you
+like 👍
Yes it's a great into but the real history is a lot more detailed. Much more complicated than it can be covered in a short UA-cam video.
@@hurguler
Yep that’s true
But sometimes a picture is equal 1000 words
I think reading all of these complicated history won’t be worth much as watching an episode or short video like this one with animation and simulation
I prefer this kind of ways to explain the history
@@turkmapping130
Turkish animal?? Only in Turkey they existed?? 😂
Wolf is common animal and it’s everywhere even Arabia has some . Unfortunately they are in denger. That’s why I chose my name to be “ ArabianWolf”cuz this wonderful species are facing extinction
A dark time in greek history
@@Closed0254 lol even Bad jokes are sometimes funny
Good time in greek history
@@karipopoaetos1288 you mean Alexander?
Big sad for the romans but way bigger applause for how beautiful your videos have become!
i just wanted to say im a big fan..of your chanell (OuO)
When is next vid
@@Merdumgriz
@@bosniencommie1202 quite soon
do a buddhist something in eu4 you dark buddhist
The quality of this video is amazing!!
I was literally wondering about this yesterday
You should make a series out of this. Before islam and christianity anatolia was pagan. There are still traditions from ancient anatolia. Couple of years ago Archeologists discovered an ancient tomb. Locals have been visiting this tomb in Physkos (todays marmaris) and praying for centuries.They said the person buried here was an islamic cleric. Upon some investigation researchers found out that this tomb also existed in christian times and was highly regarded as a christian saint. After some more research they found out the guy buried there was a boxer during ancient times. People forgot the reason the guy was known for but revering the tomb still continued for centuries. His name is Diagoras of Rhodes.
And long before turks, greeks anatolia was home to some of the most ancient civilizations in the world. hittities, phrygians, urartians, lydians.
That is true. Also majority of Seljuks still had Tengriist practices which later embedded itself into the Islamic culture of Anatolia and the daily life.
@Jerry Louis with The Thickness I know, they've been trying to push wahabist practices down people's throats but people are not buying it.
In other words Turks shouldn' be in Anatolia, Turkey shouln't be Muslim.
@@BETOETE Cry more
@@BETOETEcry cry cry
Awesome vid love historie thank you for this channel
No one:
Absolutely no one:
Kings and Generals: *NOW IT'S TURKISH DELIGHT ON A MOONLIT NIGHT.*
You forgot to add at the end: "With a Roman background".
@@Ntopios What can I say? That's nobody's business but the Turks.
It's hilarious how "Malik Shah" just means "King King" in Arabic and Persian respectively
after him comes the fall of great seldchuk empire.
Actually it's an Iranic name that we have malik both in arabic and persian but in persian malik is a little bit greater than shah, literally the name means king of kings or more persianised shahanshah
@@mahdi-oe6mkOk that makes more sense lol
Seljuks are one of the most underrated political entities. They not only changed the political and ethnic make up of the middle east, but also created the Sunni Islam as we know it today.
@@RobertGuilman The Sunni Islam as we know it today with 4 different sects that acknowledge each other was built during the reign of the Seljuks. Obviously the belief was not created during the Seljuks, but Seljuks protected the faith and structured it.
One of the toughest videos to watch...
Turks are really successful people, they turkified both Xinjiang and Anatolia !😂
The best documentary channel ever, full stop...........
It really clears some things up. Ive read about it. But seeing a map now makes clear that Cilician Armenia was directly next to the crusader states. That was the part that i did not understand. But now it is clear that it was next to the Mediterranean sea, and not next to Georgia. Therefore when people went to Jerusalem they had to go through Cilician Armenia (whenever they did not go with a boat of course).
Any way, thank you for the upload!
Greetings,
Jeff
The same happened in Iranean Azerbaijan, where Turkic language and culture phased out the old Persian way of life. There are remnants of the old language speakers (the Talysh) but they are very few.
If you look back into the distant past of Hellas, Anatolia played a major part in its makeup. It was Asiatic Greece that got the Hellenes into the Persian Wars, and it was Anatolia by the Second Century A.D. that was the heartland of the Roman East. Anatolia from the late 3rd century till the 11th century was the political, economic, and military engine room of the Eastern Roman Empire. Since Manzikert the importance, economic vitality, and the military prowess of the Anatolians have always declined.
The looting, and the destruction of constantinople by the westerns in 1204. Caused the decline of Byzantine empire which eventually fallen by the Ottoman Turks and destroyed forever.
17:26 it's a very rare situation for a Christian man loves a Muslim woman at that time since Muslim women were covered.
On the other hand, Muslim men (mostly soldiers) were encouraged to marry Christian women to accelerate the transformation of demography.
We can see the outcome today that most of the Turks looks similar to Greeks instead of Turkic states in Central Asia.
Half of the people of Turkey carry the genes of ancient Anatolians such as Lydians, Carians and Phrygians, who Hellenized and later Turkified, rather than the genes of Central Asian and Siberian Turks.
@@SurenaofParthiaThe pontus and the aegean were mostly settled not assimilated, plus the most common y chromosomes in turkey are the same as in greece. And the local anatolians were cousin peoples to the greeks
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Thank you kind sir.
I am Anatolian Turkmen. My ancestors lived nomadic lives in the 1780s. The Ottomans forced it into settled life. My Turkmen ancestors, who are the Salmanlu tribe of the Bayat tribe of Oghuzs. Our State was destroyed by the Ottoman Empire, we are the Turkmens of the Dulkadirds Principality.
The Ottomans Anatolians have been opressing the steppe nomads for many centuries. They also killed any Crimean Tatar Khan who resisted Ottoman oppression and sent waves of Anatolian settlers into Crimea to assimilate the native steppe culture.
The prophet Mohammed said that "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Turks; people with small eyes, red faces, and flat noses. Their faces will look like shields coated with leather. The Hour will not be established till you fight with people whose shoes are made of hair." (al-Bukhari Book 56 Hadith 141) The actual Turks had small eyes and small noses, Mongoloid in appearance and modern Anatolians are people who lived under the steppe nomads for centuries and now believe themselves to be their descendants.
Atilla the Hun was also described by roman diplomats as having small noses and small eyes. But the Turkish government continues to spread great lies about the Turkic and steppe peoples.
Hope this helps :)
Anatolian people are confused, will you look at the skull and interpret it as genetics? My ancestors are Turkmens, not Ottomans.
My ancestors fought against the Ottomans to preserve the steppe nomadic culture! Jalali Revolts Shah Veli Revolts! All Turkmen rebellions!
Now you take a Russian girl and have children with her, do they look like you or their mother?
@@TuwuAshina60 Sorry if offend you my friend. The turkmen as a whole are Mongoloid in appearance so they are actually Turkic, but the Ottoman turks are simply Greeks who use Turkic language and Islam.
Kings and Generals been publishing some FIRE Byzantium videos lately and I've never been happier.
But this video makes me a bit sad though :(
Why does real history make us sad? Are you a nationalist?
@@nothingghicbirseyy5499 Only Nationalists can feel sad over historical events?
Interesting take on the Holocaust.
Jokes aside, The Romans struggled for a thousand years and Anatolia was in fact THE EMPIRE. Loss of it is tragic. Also even though the Turks would go on to create one of the greatest empires in the future, at that point they were just some nomads, destructive, and not so civilized. This bitter end of Rhomania is tragic..
And no I'm not greek
@Abdul Rahman Mohammed Pakistani?
An actual tragedy. Never Istanbul, always Constantinople. Byzantium forever
@@williamdavis9562 Sad not triggered. Like you should be sad while seeing a documentary about the massacre of the turks in the balkans, or the armenian genocide, or holocaust. Well if you don't feel sad over this type of historical events, then you are the odd one.
This was a wonderful video! It was the subject I did my thesis on at university, and I think it was an amazing job!
The only improvement might have been correcting the assertion that the Christians were excluded from power. There is considerable body of contemporary evidence from both Greek and Islamic sources discussing the powerful presence of Greek Christian Nobility among the Emirs of the Seljuk Sultanate of Rum. They filled as large, or larger, and certainly equal part of the Sultan's court as Persian Officialdom did, and the Mixouvarvaroi nobility were often as much the cause of the back and forth of the continuous warfare and dynastic struggle, as anything else.
I loved this video. Thank you Kings and Generals.
This is always a misconception. The word "byzantines" is fabricated after the fall of Eastern Roman Empire. They called themselves romans and only a few part of its population had greek ancestry, the rest were mostly celtic, latin, slavic and illyrian people!
@@rumipraetorian9716 they did call themselves Roman, and "Byzantine" was an appellation from later (and I did not claim otherwise), but Greek was not a minority. Greek language and culture was overwhelmingly dominant, and this identity became more prevalent as time went on.
Slavic and Ilyrian peoples overwhelmingly displayed separatist tendencies - South Slavs, such as Serbs and Bulgars, overwhelmingly identified as independent peoples, not ruled by the Empire.
Latin peoples never identified as Romans, and indeed were the primary party responsible for usurping and denying the Roman inheritance of the Eastern Empire.
Celtic people were an extreme minority, and with the exception of within Justinian's conquests, would have only been a significant population in Galatia.
@@TheSamuraijim87 Take in mind that roman citizens were mostly of latin origin, after the roman conquest of anatolia, the majority of population became latins (with some celts and slavs) especially in the aristocracy, greeks in most cases didn't move away from today's Greece. After sometime the greek dynasties influenced the Eastern empire's language, religion and culture. So the civilian romans adopted greek customs even though they were not ethnically greek. This is a major reason why a common turkish DNA have a average of 30% compatibility with latin hablogroup according to ethnic studies
@@rumipraetorian9716 that's complete bogus. If the majority of civilians in Anatolia were of Latin Origin (they weren't), then Latin would easily have become the lingua franca of the East, and the Greek minority would have become assimilated. But the Romans never even tried this. You need to try reading histories which venture beyond questionable and politically biased DNA studies.
@@TheSamuraijim87 As I explained when the ruling class was dominated by greeks, they imposed the greek customs on roman citizens, so latin people shifted from latin language, culture to hellenization. Greeks ruled just some coastlines and few counties in anatolia and other than that there is no greek presence there.
Your videos are amazing, I love history and the way you condese these topics into ~20 min entertaining videos is awesome, keep it up!
Thank you for covering this. Many people tend to think the older populations in areas are killed off or pushed away outside of the borders when cultural/demographic changes occur, not always the case. Great episode yet again!
@@S.Solmazturk Just remember this. What China is doing in Xinjiang is not genocide either.
@@bilgeturkkan6095 Islam was spread by the sword in the balkans so they got driven out. How do you think those Muslims got there?
@@hugof3243 most of them are converts. Due to tax reasons in the past or because it was just an advantage tombe Muslim to be able to get into higher administrative position (except for financial position where orthodox Christians had better cards).
@@e.h.4789 "devşirme" which you mean by convert or tombe, was a privilege which was granted to a small number of People with extraordinary skills. So they were not and are not the majority. And we know the converted ones exactly, even the family names who are the descendants of the devşirme. Because we are an old state with an archiving tradition and keeping historical data. We have villages, towns and city settlements for Muslim Rum, Pomak and Slavs. They are acknowledged, and they themselves do not identify themselves as genetic Turks. Blood is not lemonade. No one would lose their racial conscience and betray their genetics. If that was slightly true, greeks having Turkic genes is a more plausible option since they are the subject to the Turkish rulers, not vice versa.
@@caligulathemademperor3457 you need to keep in mind the century these things happen. Societies have come a long way since WW2 and end of colonization, and embraced better values.
You guys are incredible! What a magnificent presentation. Teşekkürler!🙏🏽
I watched a UA-cam video where four or five young Turks did dna tests. They were astonished by the large component of Greek ancestry they each carried.
MyHeritage confuses native Anatolian DNA with greek DNA.
I don't understand what your point is.@jackylynn
I already know everything you told me, do you want me to feel embarrassed for it? If yes then I have to fail you, because I like of all my roots.
@jackylynn native Anatolian*
You can look my illustrative dna results
There is no such thing as pure 100% dna. Most of Turks in Turkey has 30-40% Central asia dna. As myself I look more closer to central asians or look turanid. Turkic countries aren't only 6 but 50 turkic groups and some of them will look different than others like Kıpchak turks who has blonde hair and colored eyes.
Loved this video. It was very informative. My compliments to all those who made this video a reality.
Glad you enjoyed it!
@@KingsandGenerals---I enjoy all of your video's. I found your channel a year ago. And have since watched pretty much all of your video's. And left a comment. You people do great work. Hey have you ever considered making a video on "The Russian Dunkirk." It's a real event that happened. If I could I would help with the research.
Turks are really successful people, they turkified both Xinjiang and Anatolia !😂
@@太守苏定交趾 yeah before you were remotely aware of those said places.... SO, thanks I guess.
@Üstün Dinçsoy google Tajiks of Xinjiang
What are you doing steppe bro?!
LMAO You're a legend!!
Lmfaooo
This was too damn smartly played !! 🤣
Ffs that is actually gold
Cursed pfp 😳
Great video. Thank you very much. But also this vid made me kind of sad...
Why is that?
@@cevikatmaca61 Well, as a Greek and having a part of me descend from Pontus region, it woke the "lost lands" sentiment that is common even until today in Greek populace.
@@bobbatons1720 well, Im Turkish and ı think that we should respect each other’s countries’ respective borders and work for a peaceful and friendly future. :/ love from Izmir 🇹🇷💕🇬🇷
@@testnameplsignore6916 My friend I don't want war to take back Asia Minor. On the contrary I want Turks and Greeks to live in peace and let the past (and I don't mean Matzikert but the events of the previous century) behind. In all honesty, I believe Turks and Greeks have many things in common and actually their only big difference is that they adhere to different religions.
I just express a sentiment where you had something and you lost it. Especially when many Greeks descent from that region. That's all. Trust me, no one (except some far right idiots) want to kill Turks and take back Izmir/Smyrna, Instabul/Constantinople, Trebizond etc. etc.
A wonderfull gift for 1st of april.
I was about to start my research on this to write for a story contest, and K&G hits me with it! This guys are awesome... It is like they knew what we need the most!
Great! Love your content! Your fan from Central Asia!
Turkic? Tajik?
@@Turkoaryanvatan Uzbek
@@numenorian1161 nice so you mean you are turkic
@@numenorian1161 lol my family came from uzbekistan too
@@Turkoaryanvatan yeah
“ I Have Bought Such A Homeland For You That Will Be FOREVER Yours !”
SULTAN ALP ARSLAN
What language is that?
"bought" satın aldım demek
@@bakdakal alttaki nedemek gardaş?
@@BT2001
Adud'üd devle devletin koruyucusu anlamına gelen bir ünvandır.ebu şüca ise yiğit ve cesur anlamına gelen bir ünvandır.
@@hannibalbarca2928 lütfen yabancı videonun yorumlarında, bir Türk general için arapça lakaplar kullanma.
The number of nomads of Turkic origin that migrated to Anatolia is a matter of discussion. According to Ibn Sa'id al-Maghribi, there were 200,000 Turkmen tents in Denizli and its surrounding areas, 30,000 in Bolu and its environment, and about 100,000 in Kastamonu and its environment.[1][2] According to a Latin source at the end of the 12th century there were 100,000 nomadic tents in the regions of Denizli and Isparta.[3] A large part of Turkmens became sedentary. But up until 16th century, nomadic Turkmens made up a large part of the country. According to Ottoman tax archives, in modern-day Anatolia, in Anatolia Eyalet, Karaman Eyalet, Dulkadir Eyalet and Rûm Eyalet provinces there were about 872,610 households in the 1520s and 1530s; 160,564 of those households were nomadic, and the remainder were sedentary. Of four provinces, province of Anatolia had the largest nomadic population with 77,268 households. (note: province of Anatolia does not include entire Anatolia, it includes Western Anatolia and some parts of Northwestern Anatolia only) Between 1570 and 1580, 220,217 households of the total 1,360,474 households in the four provinces were nomadic which means, at least 20% of Anatolia was still nomadic in the 16th century Around 2,000,000 Turkic migrants settled in Anatolia during the 12th & 13th centuries[4] Opened the way for several million Oghuz tribes to settle in Anatolia[5] Therefore, as early as the 12th century, Western Europeans began to describe the Anatolia region as “Turkey-Turchia”, meaning “the land of the Turks”. [6]
Good info. I love the history of this region it is very interesting.
@@S.Solmazturk Not 70% lol. It was big but definitely not a majority by 30%.
@@S.Solmazturk Yeah I know there was a second big wave during the Mongol period but the migrations never outweighed the already present population.
@@S.Solmazturk Oh well yeah if we are talking about Turks in general obviously they became the majority but I was only talking about nomads.
@@mongke7858 I guess my family did not mix much since they're 1/3 Central Asian when taking a DNA test.
For anyone wondering 3:34 the Armenian city of Ani that was pillaged by the Seljuks still has some of its ruins standing today in modern day Kars, Turkey. It’s worth a google search
11:54 Mixovarvaroi or Mixobarbaroi was first used by Ancient Greeks to describe people who speak Greek but not etnically Greek, such as Carians in the times of Plato. This term later used in the times of Constantine the Great to describe non-Romans of Christians who were Gots, Franks, Vizigots as suchs.
In history everyone had been called mixobarbaroi except for the Greeks who had an ancient democracy. Indeed, democracy or common sense of population atmost important for people. Hope to have global democracy in the future.
I am absolutely loving this cultural documentaries as well as the military ones
8:00 Kublai Khan tried to keep mongols out of China?
That's really interesting, is there any further reading available?
The vocabulary that being used in this video is so advance that i have to open my dictionary to get through it
@Δημήτρης Ο Δημήτρης sorry my bad
@Kadir Garip which is kinda hard for me to follow through the entire video though. but nevertheless, yes! now word to learn
@@iamleoooo You can read the subtitles, freeze the video or watch it again. Actually the level of English used isn't more advanced than university level history class.
Love the channel and the quality of the work you guys do, but being greek and since there are quite a few videos which are related to some parts of greek history over time, I have to mention this.
Whenever there is a reference to a group of people and the word ends in "oi" the "o" is silent.
in this case, for the word "mixovarvaroi" you can pronounce the "oi" at the end the same way you pronounce the "i" in Gallipoli for example. Or the same way you pronounce the "mi" in the same word.
Again, many many thanks for the wonderfull work you guys do.
Under this comment section you will be able to observe how obsessed European people are with geneology, races and haplogroups.
@@MrFirefox Mostly you are. I don't know anything about my heritage nor interested in it, but what I know is my family have spoken Turkish for generations, and I feel Turkish. I'm just happy with that.
@@hantlg in the otherhand greeks are trying to explain Turks in Turkey actually not Turks because they dont have enough XXX dna :DDD
@@S.Solmazturk They are
Lol Someone should make video about Germanification in east german ,Saxonification, Franknification in western Europe, slavinization in balkan ,etc
@@ruskyalmond1977It's not just white people. Arabs do the same to Spaniards and Turks to the Russians.
Shoot a video about King David the Builder, King David IV
On the King of Georgia
I was waiting for that video for so many time finally it's here thanks bro
The in-depth and yet easy to follow, explainatory content of these videos is just top-notch! Hats off to the team in charge!
13:29 The stereotypical domed mosque is based on an Orthodox Christian church, with the addition of the minarets.
Actually it is more persian architecture, byzantines (and later Turks) used half-spheres (and as for Turks exclusively, pointy minarets) rather than partial cones (which is envisioned in occidental stereotypes wrongfully)
@@skullsforerlikkhansthrone9306 While Islamic architecture varies greatly based on time and place, I don't think Zoroastrian temples ever had domes, while Roman churches already had domes during the Islamization of the Near East, so many early mosques were repurposed churches. This happens occasionally with Christian churches too, as the demographics of an area shifts, one denomination might sell the church to another. The St. Sava Orthodox Cathedral in New York for example, was a 19th century Protestant church before it was burned by an anarchist in 2016. As far as I know, the reconstruction plans to keep the original roof design.
@@Derna1804 The very first "domed" architectures was Roman in origin AFAIK. However, Persian style had a distinct, more conical than spherical domes. However, that specific style of "cones" were not used by the Byzantines, they continued the half-sphere style in Anatolia(the mistake in the vid lies in this), which later incorporated into Turkish architecture.
Greece/European logic:
yOuRe MuSlIm GrEeK
or gO bAcK tO mOnGoLiA
xD
Your average occidental is the most bipolar thing you can come across
@Codex Cumanicus what you say is totally true coming from a Greek. Anatolian Greeks were completely different from mainland Greeks from ancient times. But they still were Greek
@@sinidisialitaria6599 nuh uh did you hear anicent antolians who have nothing to do with greeks
13:33 Church from 12th century has a clock on its tower.
So?
@@aokiaoki4238 Clocks of that technology came hundreds of years later in 17th and 18th century or so.
@@senor6370 There were Byzantine vertical sun and water mechanical clocks, on churches, that replaced by mechanical later, many saved up today. Clock technology spreaded centuries earlier from Byzantines to Venice to rest of Europe with book translations.
@@aokiaoki4238 Can I see a source about church tower clocks running on sun or water in 12th century?
@@senor6370 Google
Nomads have altered history for worse or the good the most than any other group
Actually all caucasoid Eurasians started as Nomads
@@alehanedilko2147 not really, there were hunter gatherers, nomads, and e1b1b carrying levantine farmers (ancestors of cushites like Somalis, berbers, and anyone who carries over 90 percent e1b1b y dna)
@@benisrood Seljuks were already more Persians than Turkic at the time, then they absorbed even more Greek and Armenian elements. They've no right to call themselves Turkic 🤣
@@Neversa The Turks came and you submitted to them. Because Turks stronger than greeks+armenians. Always🤭🤭👍🏾
@@asakura5110 Too bad they gave the world's history and culture only great tragedies. Strength isn't everything, culture is much more important. Which the nomadic Turks completely lacked.
Make a video about Karakhanids. PLEASE
Normally people spin this from one extreme to another.
Yet, I'm speechless.
This was just a job well done!
Turks who went over the Caspian Christianised and settled in Bulgaria, crimea and Hungary. Turks who went under became Muslim and settled in Anatolia.
I'd be interested to look at the genetics of these places to see precisely what proportion of those nations are turkic. my suspicion is not much, not even in turkey itself. i remember thinking years ago when i had a turkish girlfriend, how similar her and her brother looked to the people in the mosiacs in the museums over there.
@@georget5874 Anatolian Turks are genetically a mix of Turkmens and Pre-Turkic Anatolians. I saw Gedmatch Dna Results from Anatolia, the Gene-pool is like: 40%Turkmen/60%Anatolian in Average.
crimean are not christian they are muslim. Majority of people living in crimea are russian christians not muslim crimeans.
Hungarians were Ugric. Not Turkic
@@mohammedafsal1886 nope originally Christian until the mongols conquered Crimea. Look it up