Very nice video, definitely gave me a lot of information to think about when purchasing a sax. I’m in my 60’s with no musical background and I am thinking about getting a sax to learn how to play. Been looking at a used Selmer SAS711. From what I can tell Selmer seems to be more affordable than Yamaha.
Nice clips of you playing the different saxes! Good shoppers' info. I have been playing alto for years, and recently decided to try soprano (on a limited budget), as a second instrument (actually 3rd, because I also play flute). I found a "$300" brand that I was interested in, that I could order on-line, but did not want to buy it without testing it. By an interesting set of coincidences I was in the neighborhood of a shop that had that horn in stock I was able to test 2 of them. It was clear that the quality of construction and materials used was not as good as known brands. One of the horns did not play well, but (after cleaning one of the tone-holes) the other one played well. I have been playing it for a year and it is holding up ok. I am now considering adding tenor, so the info you share is helpful in my decision making process.
I'm thinking about taking the plunge on a $300 soprano myself... I sold my other sopranos, but now I'm thinking it might be nice to have something around if ever I feel inspired. I imagine with Amazon you can always return it if it's really terrible? Keep me posted on your hunt for a tenor!
great video! the problem I have with buying a used saxophone is that I have no clue if it is a good one, and also I don't have a technician who is willing to assist me to test it out... so I bought a new Yamaha 280, after watching your video on buying students or intermediate horns :) (but I traded it in after a couple of weeks to buy another more high end sax from a sax shop that stopped business and gave huge discount)
Can't go wrong with a new Yamaha, and if you're going high end, then most everything is good. As long as you have something that you like and does what it needs to do you're all set!
I keep trying to dream up excuses as to why I need to upgrade my excellent boutique sax which played perfectly out pf the box and has required no adjustment in seven years (although I should probably have it serviced). I'll still sound like me after three weeks use of a new horn. - bit off topic I know. Great video.
A good horn is a good horn. I feel like I'm going to need to make a series about when / why one might consider upgrading their equipment in general. Thanks for commenting!
I started with an alto that was an old one that had lived under the spare bed for 15 years £500 new second hand £200…. It was Ok for me for 6 mths until I felt I understood what it was that was important for me so then I bought a new instrument alongside my teacher, we tried out 6 in a shop I bought one for the rest of my life it cost £2300. It took 2 hours. Since then I’ve bought various old cheap Altos from Marketplace £100-£150 and got them working again sending them to a local tech it’s kind of a hobby playing around with old/cheap unloved instruments. But the one I play everyday is my new special pricey alto….it’s the one I trust and love.
Awesome to hear that you found a horn you love, and I think it's really cool that you resurrect unloved horns too. Great hobby! Next step is to learn how to do that work yourself?
Best (used) saxophones for begginers that offer excellent construction, ergonomics. intonation and value for money are ; 1. Yamaha 275 2. Jupiter 787/789
I bought a Super Action 80 series 1 for my son, it´s getting a full overhaul total price for the sax and repair 3400$, he has been playing a yas280 for 8 years, a loaner from school.
I've had great luck finding good, working condition alto saxophones really cheap at pawn shops. You just have to know how to evaluate a horn. I play a student model Keilwerth on alto now, liked it better than an intermediate Selmer I had. Both came from pawns.
It gets harder and harder to find good deals in pawn shops.... with the internet a savy pawn dealer knows what things are worth. That being said I did snag a beauty of a Conn 10m years ago for next to nothing... wish I had kept that horn.
I bought a Jean Paul 4 years ago. I've had no problems with it and I play almost everyday. Still.... thinking about an upgrade, but the YAS 62 111 I tried today didn't grab me. Keywork felt better, but felt like I was blowing through a straw. Plus... 3650 and plastic all over the horn. C'mon Yamaha.
Thanks for commenting. I did a video not long ago about intermediate saxes and did a comparison of what each model of Yamaha costs new and what the same horns close for on eBay. Pretty much all across the board they lose 50% value. In my personal experience of selling various horns I've owned, you can absolutely do better than 50% depreciation, but you've gotta be willing to let that horn sit for years until the right buyer comes along who's willing to pay what you're asking. Not everyone is willing to do that. Recently, someone approached me through a friend who was trying to sell his Selmer Series II tenor that was bought brand new from the Paris showroom and played only a handful of times. He thought $8000 was a fair price because it was basically brand new. I don't see that horn ever selling for more that $3000, but that me. Thanks again, for watching and commenting!
Telling my 11 year old daughter that the $500 YAS-52 that looks like someone left it outside over winter is better than a $200 blue lacquered white glove saxomaphone (yes that's how they spelled it) is harder than you think.
Got a yani tw01 7 years no problems. Goes to tech every 6 month for check over. Got a TJ Sr. 3 years old goes to tech much more iften as its nothing but problems.
Not sure about that cold intro, but I think it's sad that the "better sax" guy seems to shill his "products" left and right.....I always recommend people try to find a used horn that is an intermediate or pro model, usually Yamaha or similar.
played a Buescher true tone 6 yrs.. every yr had it checked out in working order.. never had a problem..tone was fantastic..I really learned how to play on it.. " for me" it was fantastic to learn on and develop..
@@pgroove163 True Tone is a great horn, some of them are little wonky in the tuning department, but it's tough to find a better sounding horn. Thanks for commenting!
Great information!
Very nice video, definitely gave me a lot of information to think about when purchasing a sax. I’m in my 60’s with no musical background and I am thinking about getting a sax to learn how to play. Been looking at a used Selmer SAS711. From what I can tell Selmer seems to be more affordable than Yamaha.
Nice clips of you playing the different saxes! Good shoppers' info. I have been playing alto for years, and recently decided to try soprano (on a limited budget), as a second instrument (actually 3rd, because I also play flute). I found a "$300" brand that I was interested in, that I could order on-line, but did not want to buy it without testing it. By an interesting set of coincidences I was in the neighborhood of a shop that had that horn in stock I was able to test 2 of them. It was clear that the quality of construction and materials used was not as good as known brands. One of the horns did not play well, but (after cleaning one of the tone-holes) the other one played well. I have been playing it for a year and it is holding up ok. I am now considering adding tenor, so the info you share is helpful in my decision making process.
I'm thinking about taking the plunge on a $300 soprano myself... I sold my other sopranos, but now I'm thinking it might be nice to have something around if ever I feel inspired. I imagine with Amazon you can always return it if it's really terrible? Keep me posted on your hunt for a tenor!
great video! the problem I have with buying a used saxophone is that I have no clue if it is a good one, and also I don't have a technician who is willing to assist me to test it out... so I bought a new Yamaha 280, after watching your video on buying students or intermediate horns :) (but I traded it in after a couple of weeks to buy another more high end sax from a sax shop that stopped business and gave huge discount)
Can't go wrong with a new Yamaha, and if you're going high end, then most everything is good. As long as you have something that you like and does what it needs to do you're all set!
I keep trying to dream up excuses as to why I need to upgrade my excellent boutique sax which played perfectly out pf the box and has required no adjustment in seven years (although I should probably have it serviced). I'll still sound like me after three weeks use of a new horn. - bit off topic I know. Great video.
A good horn is a good horn. I feel like I'm going to need to make a series about when / why one might consider upgrading their equipment in general. Thanks for commenting!
I started with an alto that was an old one that had lived under the spare bed for 15 years £500 new second hand £200…. It was Ok for me for 6 mths until I felt I understood what it was that was important for me so then I bought a new instrument alongside my teacher, we tried out 6 in a shop I bought one for the rest of my life it cost £2300. It took 2 hours. Since then I’ve bought various old cheap Altos from Marketplace £100-£150 and got them working again sending them to a local tech it’s kind of a hobby playing around with old/cheap unloved instruments. But the one I play everyday is my new special pricey alto….it’s the one I trust and love.
Awesome to hear that you found a horn you love, and I think it's really cool that you resurrect unloved horns too. Great hobby! Next step is to learn how to do that work yourself?
Best (used) saxophones for begginers that offer excellent construction, ergonomics. intonation and value for money are ;
1. Yamaha 275
2. Jupiter 787/789
I bought a Super Action 80 series 1 for my son, it´s getting a full overhaul total price for the sax and repair 3400$, he has been playing a yas280 for 8 years, a loaner from school.
I've had great luck finding good, working condition alto saxophones really cheap at pawn shops. You just have to know how to evaluate a horn. I play a student model Keilwerth on alto now, liked it better than an intermediate Selmer I had. Both came from pawns.
i would say that most beginners have no idea how to evaluate a horn.. that comes with experience by playing a horn !
It gets harder and harder to find good deals in pawn shops.... with the internet a savy pawn dealer knows what things are worth. That being said I did snag a beauty of a Conn 10m years ago for next to nothing... wish I had kept that horn.
@@pgroove163 agreed
I have no musical background and in my 60’s. I’m thinking about getting a used Selmer SAS711
Thank You for the movie.
I have a questions about Selmer do You think Conn-Selmer or Selmer Paris?
What about Yanagisawa?
I bought a Jean Paul 4 years ago. I've had no problems with it and I play almost everyday.
Still.... thinking about an upgrade, but the YAS 62 111 I tried today didn't grab me.
Keywork felt better, but felt like I was blowing through a straw.
Plus... 3650 and plastic all over the horn. C'mon Yamaha.
50% seems a bit much. Depreciate, yes. But 50% seems a bit much except amongst the "lower value" horns.
Good video
Thanks for commenting. I did a video not long ago about intermediate saxes and did a comparison of what each model of Yamaha costs new and what the same horns close for on eBay. Pretty much all across the board they lose 50% value. In my personal experience of selling various horns I've owned, you can absolutely do better than 50% depreciation, but you've gotta be willing to let that horn sit for years until the right buyer comes along who's willing to pay what you're asking. Not everyone is willing to do that. Recently, someone approached me through a friend who was trying to sell his Selmer Series II tenor that was bought brand new from the Paris showroom and played only a handful of times. He thought $8000 was a fair price because it was basically brand new. I don't see that horn ever selling for more that $3000, but that me. Thanks again, for watching and commenting!
Telling my 11 year old daughter that the $500 YAS-52 that looks like someone left it outside over winter is better than a $200 blue lacquered white glove saxomaphone (yes that's how they spelled it) is harder than you think.
I feel you pain my friend, but that's a whole other story there. Those pretty colours catch my eye too. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Got a yani tw01 7 years no problems. Goes to tech every 6 month for check over. Got a TJ Sr. 3 years old goes to tech much more iften as its nothing but problems.
Not sure about that cold intro, but I think it's sad that the "better sax" guy seems to shill his "products" left and right.....I always recommend people try to find a used horn that is an intermediate or pro model, usually Yamaha or similar.
played a Buescher true tone 6 yrs.. every yr had it checked out in working order.. never had a problem..tone was fantastic..I really learned how to play on it.. " for me" it was fantastic to learn on and develop..
Thanks for watching and commenting. The cold intro is an acquired taste I think!
@@pgroove163 True Tone is a great horn, some of them are little wonky in the tuning department, but it's tough to find a better sounding horn. Thanks for commenting!