Google Pixel & GrapheneOS: 3 Month Review | Apps & Configurations
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- Опубліковано 8 бер 2023
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I'm still using it on my 6 pro. Only had 1 app that didn't work, because Google Play services for AR doesn't like Graphene, which isn't a big deal. I've been playing with astrophotography recently, it's awesome.
Meanwhile, Google keeps breaking things with each new update. UA-cam window resizing completely flakes out half the time, and still not fixed for YEARS, the file manager continues to delete my files by itself. I sacrificed a lot of things just for a stock Google experience (better phones than the Pixel are available for comparable prices), and Google keeps disappointing. Oh, and the lack of RGB color settings is unacceptable for the Pixel 6/7 because the colors are washed out even with Adaptive or Boosted settings.
batery duration?
Thanks for the video! I just came to Graphene from CalyxOS and having some app recommendations helps a lot
Another fantastic GrapheneOS video. Awesome content!
Thank you! 😊
My first thing that I realize after installing a custom rom on my phone is that many things is actually integrated so closely with the google services and not a part of the AOSP.
Anyway, welcome to the real stock android.
YES! GrapheneOS in the news!
Thanks for the vids, used your install video on a 8a
Thank you for the informative video! I have a quick question - can the Chromecast or screen mirroring feature be used with GrapheneOS?
:) THANKS MUCH for updates! Soon as I get Tax return, will order Pixel to try :) ALL the BEST and interesting BECU works? I am local too. Cheers :)
I know Google Wallet doesn’t work for payments, but I’m wondering if it works for things like Ticket Master tickets that are NFC based. You scan the tickets via NFC at the venue
Is there something like built-in firewall?
Is Google camera application working the same as on factory Google software?
If ia have bought some applications on Google play I will not have access to them without sacrificing privacy right?
What was the calendar app you got on Fdroid? I like grapheneos but some of the stock features like the keyboard suck. Thanks.
if you did not know you can create user profiles. i use it to seprerate apps that need google services or apps owned by big companies (meta, google or microsoft etc) and foss apps (on my main profile). nice video btw!
Do the Google services app not track etc if you are not on that particular profile?
@@theorgazoid4918 you can set up multiple users so that the users don't run in the background
How do you install your bank app? From play store or from aurora store? Thank you
Which of your settings will you need to ReSet when your phone is ReStarted❓
There are a lot of client alternatives you are not using like infinity for reddit or vanced/newpipe for youtube
Where would I go to learn more about client alternatives??
Given your a mac user, what privacy measures do you take with you laptop. A video on it would be sweet
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I am an iPhone user considering switching to a pixel device with grapheneos. My biggest concern is the “culture” shock switching from a babied operating system to one that seems much more complicated.
However when I opened up this UA-cam video and saw your homescreen, and how it didn’t look barren and utilitarian, that really warms me up to the idea of switching!
I was hoping if anyone has any experience with grapheneos, please share your experience, especially if you switched straight from an iPhone or have ever used an iPhone!
I'm glad that it was a bit relieving! I will say, as someone who worked at Apple and was a huge iPhone lover, the switch was surprisingly easy and there isn't a single feature I miss, genuinely. Having the peace of mind to be able to return the phone somewhere may help with the transition, if you have any concerns about not loving it!
Same here… now feeling more comfortable about ditching my iPhone.
Great review. Been considering getting a pixel 7 and switch to grapheneos.
I’d have two questions to ask. Is dictation as fast as on the stock rom? Does grapheneos come with fast charging?
I don't have a dictation engine installed but I would imagine it could be the same. If you installed the Google Speech Services, it would be identical. Fast charging is a firmware function as I understand it, so it should work with any ROM, and I can confirm that it works beautifully on my unit running GOS.
@@CozyLivingMachine that sounds great, thanks! I’ll give it a go!
I remember the first incident that raised my awareness of Internet privacy - or the lack of it - was when my wife and I were saying we needed to buy a new filter for our dryer, which neither of us had looked up on the Internet yet, it was just a random conversation we were having for the first time, and about an hour later an Amazon ad popped up on my Facebook feed offering me a filter for our exact dryer model… that was crazy… and we hadn’t bought the dryer from Amazon 😅
Thx for sharing your apps! Did you make a video on how to install google service apps and chging permissions. I'd like to download some paid apps from GPlay, without having to run Services. Any thoughts or other vids you recommend.
I've done a few! Check out: ua-cam.com/video/TgQhvrRyCZc/v-deo.html
Great vid - subbed. I am making the leap from iOS this week and seeing what’s installed on your Pixel really helps.
I understand GrapheneOS now has an installation wizard that makes the transition even easier. Knowing which apps to install helps too. Some are the same as iOS but many are different.
i didnt know you were an formal apple employee. i was a tech expert for 7 years. i daily a pixel 7 pro and 13 pro.
Oh yeah, I spend far too long with Apple! 😂 Only 6 years with them before going to Amazon, then a cancer research organization and the rest! I've thought about having and playing with both, but I always feel guilty that one device wouldn't get enough attention. 🤣
@@CozyLivingMachine What is it about Apple employees and GrapheneOS... I too can be counted in, LOL!
@@BigWillieFreestyle Welcome to the club! 😂😂
Good evening !
Hello! 👋👋
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You are still using a mac. What do you do to limit apples access on your mac? Are you using Asahi Linux?
What do you recommend for DNS ad blocking?
What apps are available for scanning/ocr? Can you install something like adobe scan and adobe acrobat reader?
All the exact same apps that are available otherwise will still work here. I do have Adobe Acrobat Reader and it works fine! I'm sure Adobe Scan would have no trouble also.
I researched for two days and found out its impossible not to get tracked nowadays. But i think keeping controll over your meta data is still a good thing so im switching now to a pixel 8 and i put on grapheneos.
You can put your devices in a Faraday bag. That works until you take them out. It might have selective usefulness. What happens in Vegas…
Is there any way you can make Google Pay work on grapheneos?
the only thing holding me back is... Android Auto (I travel a lot), any alternative or way to install it?
From their site - "In some cases, the functionality it offers fundamentally requires privileged access and cannot be supported. For example, it's unlikely Android Auto will be supported."
i was in the same boat, decided i will use my old Pixel, formated with Lineage OS or whatever works as my Android auto device, using the hotspot off my GrapheneOS device for connectivity.
No
what about the battery life?
What weather app is that?
Did you not set user profiles for certain app categorys? Which benefits has this method? If i would create a "Banking" user and install my banking apps to it, are these invisible on my main user? Do i have to log out of the main and log in to my "Banking" user to interact with these apps each time?
Each profile is invisible to the other profiles, even if you didnt log out of the one you switched from, profile wise
Hello, how you rooted your phone. I cannot see magisk in yout app list.
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@@iivera7618it's an old app for rooted phones.
Can I spoof Pokémon go with graphene?
I would love it if I could get a nfc payments.
What phone case do you use?
The sage colored Google case!
Is it safe to use banking and shopping apps on grepheneOs? The only think makes me itch and stop going grepheneOs.
Yes it passes safety net
For notes Evernote is the best
Heads up! Futo voice is way better
Just tried this out, very cool and simple add. Thanks!
How's the battery life using graphene on Pixel 7?
It's good! Better than stock, but I do have 5G turned off and limited background services. I plug in for about 15 minutes a day give or take and it keeps going through the day and night!
Aurora is the best if you dont have play store
GrapheneOS seems like a good replacement for BlackberryOS and a perfect option for mobile business lines.
Just needs more device support and stable, continuous development.
They aren't going to add different device support. Especially with pixels built in hardware security that other phones don't have
@Stewartmanbro More manufacturers just need to support the technology (chip) Graphene uses.
@@ChaseDizzie its not all about the software, the hardware of pixels and some other perks.
@@yee-7o7 That’s true but if the demand for alternative operating systems increases, larger manufacturers such as Motorola and maybe even Samsung will start implementing non-proprietary hardware security features. Hell, just improving the bootloaders would be a leap forward. If all else fails there’s still hope for custom hardware.
The Apps inside a user profile still talk to each other, so having graphene os and using just one profile where google is installed makes nearly no difference to just using stock android. In particular if you just keep using every damn google service
I thought the same thing :D Why did he install Graphene to then install all Google Services...when I saw the PlayStore App Icon I really laughed hard.. to be fair: I also installed G framework and playservices on a second profile to use carsharing apps like "Sixt" or "ShareNow". But only in that particular case (to short rent a car) I'm switching from the main to the second profile
you obviously didn't pay attention to a single thing that came out of his mouth. Yes, you do have to grant certain permissions for certain specific functions of the app to work. BUT you could also DENIES permissions individually, those that you yourself deems as unnecessary. IE Tiktok, you install it on your device and just simply want to see silly video clips, or IG where you simply just want to follow silly memes pages. Usually, after launching those app from the Play Store, those apps will immediately ask for full permissions to your device, as soon as you deny ANY of the permission, the app would close itself out and refuse to take you to it home screen, zero functionality whatsoever, or exit out of the app by itself, essentially not allowing you to use it until you grant them every permission that they want even if you are simply on there just to look at memes or watch tiktok/vines clips. Why would the company want full access to your entire camera roll, locations, literally everything on your device if you aren't on it to create contents? you have no intention of posting anything whatsoever, all you want to do is look at memes and laugh until your stomach hurt. But Meta will still wants it because your data is valuable. Letting you look at memes alone doesn't exactly turn a profit for them. Obviously this isn't a perfect example, more depending on your specific region/market where local government have laws to prevent these companies from invading every piece of your privacy. Because of custom ROMS like this, and also for various of other reason social media company are now coming up of way to try to get you to pay to use their service such as $5 Twitter blue verification check put in place by Elon, not a perfect example but yeah...
@@lonestarninja still don’t understand why you wouldn’t just use a iPhone in that case (where you’re able to disable all those permissions for apps). My whole point being: If you use an os that’s so great for privacy, why do u download so privacy invasive apps, that still track you and communicate with each other within one profile. Why don’t switch services that value your privacy or alternative apps that let you browse instagram just without the tracking?
@@kannnix6890 the iPhone and iOS ain't the holy grail of privacy that people be thinking that it is. Apple actually do a tons of first party data tracking and collecting from their users for their Siri voice assistant as well as their own Apple One service bundle, and future projects because they are trying to cut into a sizeable share of Google's bread and butter of advertising and services. I have GrapheneOS running on my P7P right now and Google are not successful in pinpointing my location even when I use YT, IG, Maps, Waze, Herewego unless I manually approve for the navigation apps to gain access to my censor and location. TikTok literally have zero permission granted to my device and I am still able to use it flawlessly. iPhone can't really say the same thing.
@@kannnix6890 you obviously doesn't have the ability to read and comprehend either. Not everyone are social animal, there are people who only download IG to check out memes. There are Tiktok users out there who only look at silly ass video clips. A very select few don't even hit the like button for those contents because they know that those companies would track their activity for content/product/advertising suggestions and moderations. Next thing they know, those companies are accessing entire contents from their device and yes even with iOS, it is still actually possible for them to do so. Every single personal and intimate details are now in their possession, would you like for your life to be public and accessible to anyone on the net?
im thinking about buying a Pixel 7 just for this. is it worth it?
Worth it, 100%. If you have the means and it doesn't put you over your budget, I'd definitely say go for it!
And the 7a will come soon… 😎
@Cozy Living Machine just ordered one can't wait to recieve it!
@@mrcvry@$499
I JUST LOST A YEAR OF IMPORTANT PHOTOS!!! BACKUP FIRST!!!
I guess I only have myself to blame really; but I watched 5+ long videos about GrapheneOS and installation walkthroughs, and I guess I still somehow just missed the memo to make sure your phone is COMPLETELY BACKED UP (PHOTOS, files, anything that you would lose if you could push one “wipe phone” button on your phone).
Do not do a single step of installing GrapheneOS, before making sure you haven’t forgotten to backup EVERYTHING.
RIP Dad, RIP Lily, RIP Patches; a year of saving things through pictures and screenshots gone, a year of a lot of photos of myself that now, I just won’t have a year of my life to be able to reference or look back at; just a year that I’ll pretend I was blackout drunk literally every day, because I literally have no other way of verifying that that year even happened tbh. Poof.
RIP me
I've been there twice becayse I didn't learn my lesson the first time! Great tip!
If you use Google Maps what is the point of using Graphene?
What advantage do you gain with Graphene compared with normal Android?
You need to watch some more videos on it (especially from youtube side of burritos), you'll know why.
privacy, anonymousness, and control.
@@netnomad47
How can you remain anonymous on Google maps?
@Dialectical Monist He explains it in the video and previous videos how it works. It has to do with controlling what data you want to give to the app, and even restricting it's network access and other data collection.
The world does not turn around Google Maps. There are many more great map/navi apps!
How do I stop the "sandboxed Google Play is running" prompt?
Also, any thoughts on "TC Slim" App.?
I'm very happy with Graphene OS on my Pixel 7's
Unfortunately, I still receive that prompt and just have to clear it every so often. I've disabled background services for Google services but then that had other consequences. So I've been ignoring it so far. I'd never actually heard of TC Slim but I'm checking it out now! I'm curious about the tracking while running GrapheneOS as well, so we'll see about that! That's fantastic though, I've been very happy as well with this setup!
@@CozyLivingMachine One thing I noticed on TC Slim was the ridiculous amount of times Signal reports back.
@@pinoygal6232hi does ur pixel phone overheats with graphene os???
@@CozyLivingMachine click and hold on any notification and you can silence it or even silence just a certain type of notification an app is generating and allow the other types of notifications to still appear !
I'm a bit confused because you took the time to switch to an AOSP rom focused on privacy and (possible) security, but you're still using services like gmail that scan every single email that passes through, photos that gives google access to your photo library, Amazon etc etc. you catch my drift.
I believe that we should take a phone security / privacy approach similar to "not your keys, not your crypto" in the blockchain space. Unless you're self-hosting, there's no point in using something like graphene.
it's nice that graphene gives us the ability to work in sandbox environments, but what's the point if the app we're isolating is still working it's magic on the service provider's cloud?
My thoughts exactly. At what point do the features and benefits of installing GrapheneOS become outweighed by the effects of reinstalling all those third party apps that are doing all the things we try to secure ourselves from?
I thought I was secure from it all because I don't have any of those types of apps like Gmail, and Amazon, and Hulu and the like. I thought if I just access those sites thru the Vanadium browser, I could avoid all that tracking. Unfortunately, I was sadly mistaken. I set up nextdns to run all traffic thru, and even using Vanadium, there are still tons of trackers bombarding my phone with every inquiry. So my block list on nextdns is ever expanding. All I do now is play whack-a-mole with all the Google and various other junk that's constantly invading my phone. Google is by far the worst offender.
Yeah, I'm kinda baffled why he would use it in the first place if he's just going to use the Google apps.
Completely agree
Obviously using non Google services is better. But this still makes sense. When you use a regular Google phone, their apps have root access to your device, you couldnt turn them off even if you wanted too. At least with grapheneOS they are restricted. So if you are in a situation where you have to use Google maps you can use it, fully understanding you’re data is getting harvested. But otherwise you can completely restrict its network access so it can’t call home when you don’t want it too. I think it’s a step in the right direction.
@@porter4828
I don't like the word "harvested".
It implies that they only possess a collective data of the crowd.
They are also tracking your PERSONAL habbits which create a fingerprint. Whether or not that fingerprint is formally associated with an ID or not is not significant because Google or OUTSIDE institutions they sell to could use that "fingerprint" to create a model for tracking you OUTSIDE Google's domain of influence.
"im not a spy" .... What every spy would say. Ha
Precisely. 🤣🤣
Reddit is the most toxic place on the internet? Guess you haven't heard of 4chan lol
Hahahaha I've browsed some of that site, it's crazy but got a few chuckles from me, so it didn't win the toxicity contest. 😂
Using grapheneos and installed all possible apps to be Google phone...And loose ability to make photos....Nice move man
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Gcam works, its not the apps its what they do in the background and additional settings graphene os does. Google are deafult spyware on most phones its optional software for graphene os.
@@kaeji_namitsua Quality of pictures is not the same.