I recently switched to the new quarks from the previous generation and almost everything about them is worse. The grip flops around in my hand because of the flatness. The pommel rest is also flatter. I actually wrapped them in both in tape and they still don’t swing as good as the old. The folding part of the pommel is a bad idea, my first day out and they froze shut, I had to breath on them to open but the button was jammed and wouldn’t lock. Kinda dangerous
What a good question. So, I must preface by saying we do not add the label "ice climber" to our self-description (mainly thanks to our 3-season home). This was our first time on ice in like 5 years. But, for ice cragging in Ouray, the Nomic with the Pure Ice pick was pure bliss. It took our limited skill set and let us pretend we knew what we were doing. It was actually hard to pry the Nomic + Pure Ice from Andreas' hands at the end of the day. So at the Ouray ice crag, we didn't even really want to climb with the Quark after a few laps, but it still seems most reasonable for alpine adventures when you have a long approach and less ice. The Ergonomic was fun to hook on some WI4/5 runs, and the angle of the handle makes total sense for resting, and the upper grip was great, but our inexperienced swing meant that hooking was our best means of survival with it. We did note all the experienced folks that loved the Nomic previously were super stoked on the Ergonomic -- since the swing is quite similar but just one level up.
Glad to hear it. I love that you are upfront about being a novice to ice climbing. We don't only want to year the pro's opinion on the tools but for us noobs, we like to hear how the tools feel for those that aren't as proficient in swinging them. Thanks.
Links at the end of the video: Email signup for when the new tools are out: wp.me/P3NzxQ-2tm Conrad Anker reviews the new Petzl tools: ua-cam.com/video/8Hw-2-1wfT0/v-deo.html Anne Gilbert Chase reviews the new Petzl tools: ua-cam.com/video/T10ym4uHYhk/v-deo.html
Thank you! We've been feeling a little guilty because we haven't changed it in a few years, but it's surprisingly time consuming to find a better replacement! -AD
I recently switched to the new quarks from the previous generation and almost everything about them is worse. The grip flops around in my hand because of the flatness. The pommel rest is also flatter. I actually wrapped them in both in tape and they still don’t swing as good as the old. The folding part of the pommel is a bad idea, my first day out and they froze shut, I had to breath on them to open but the button was jammed and wouldn’t lock. Kinda dangerous
@WeighMyRack After using them yourselves for a few days, which one do you like the best?
What a good question. So, I must preface by saying we do not add the label "ice climber" to our self-description (mainly thanks to our 3-season home). This was our first time on ice in like 5 years. But, for ice cragging in Ouray, the Nomic with the Pure Ice pick was pure bliss. It took our limited skill set and let us pretend we knew what we were doing. It was actually hard to pry the Nomic + Pure Ice from Andreas' hands at the end of the day.
So at the Ouray ice crag, we didn't even really want to climb with the Quark after a few laps, but it still seems most reasonable for alpine adventures when you have a long approach and less ice. The Ergonomic was fun to hook on some WI4/5 runs, and the angle of the handle makes total sense for resting, and the upper grip was great, but our inexperienced swing meant that hooking was our best means of survival with it. We did note all the experienced folks that loved the Nomic previously were super stoked on the Ergonomic -- since the swing is quite similar but just one level up.
Glad to hear it. I love that you are upfront about being a novice to ice climbing. We don't only want to year the pro's opinion on the tools but for us noobs, we like to hear how the tools feel for those that aren't as proficient in swinging them. Thanks.
Can you do a video about the new version of the Grivel g20? the grivel 20 PLUS! :)
Yes! We have the video footage for it -- just need to squeeze it into the editing queue!
Great!
Also, we just got word that a pair of the G20 Plus is in the mail to one of our testers, so we'll have a full hands-on review coming too!
Links at the end of the video:
Email signup for when the new tools are out: wp.me/P3NzxQ-2tm
Conrad Anker reviews the new Petzl tools: ua-cam.com/video/8Hw-2-1wfT0/v-deo.html
Anne Gilbert Chase reviews the new Petzl tools: ua-cam.com/video/T10ym4uHYhk/v-deo.html
Love your guy's theme tune
Thank you! We've been feeling a little guilty because we haven't changed it in a few years, but it's surprisingly time consuming to find a better replacement! -AD
ERGO e il Migliore :-) Top