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@@user-nt9dy3iz8n Well I think every warrior learns what he can to further his craft, like a Chinese builder or a Korean builder. No styles among craftsmen.
As a HEMA practitioner who comes here to learn more about Eastern swordsmanship, I loved this. The blade grab thrust was very interesting. It's similar to my favorite longsword disarm, but with the katana's shorter blade you can take the more direction option and just stab!
Probably a lot safer, too. I know you can grab a double edged sword barehanded and not get cut up TOO bad, but I'd still rather grab the hard spine of the katana. ^_^;
Amazing!! I love how he combines eastern and western techniques into something entirely new! Very interesting guy! and as a German myself I really like their name: Gesellschaft Schwertmann!
waren tatsächlich nur östliche techniken. Die selben gibt es nunmal auch in der westlichen Welt. also keine kombination einfach nur praktisches kenjutsu. mit echtem Training was nicht aus kendo besteht. Kenjutsu practicioner machen sowas auch. nur sparren eben nicht.
@@galahadthepure7277 So wie du das formulierst implizierst du, dass praktische Schwertkunst zwangsläufig fast immer gleich aussieht, egal wo der Ursprung ist.
I love this video. You guys are true students of martial arts, willing to test what you know and learn from your experiences in order to be better at your art. Much respect to you
The uptick in HEMA being explored by kenjutsu practitioners recently is really fascinating. It’s been a thing since forever seeing HEMA practitioners going over kendo and the like, but seeing the opposite really brings something new to the scene
Loved it! I'm a HEMA practioner and all the skills being shown here are on point. It's great that you're mixing it up and learning from each other. I've fenced a kenjutsu guy before and he was very good, I definitely learned some things.
Very cool video! As a follow up, would be interesting if you guys showed us Sangsoodo (korean two-handed) techniques and in a later video compared it with montante / claymore / zwei-hander techniques. Every HEMA nerd loves watching Figueyredo related videos.
Seeing a bunch of references to historical Japanese martial arts texts as well here! Seeing Yagyu Munenori, Yamamoto Kansuke and even some Miyamoto Musashi here too. Love when people finally see that, while HEMA and HJMA have their differences, there is plenty that crosses over too. This is even more evident in steel sparring. Vids like this are great! Please keep them up 🙏
scholaglatiatoria mentioned this same thing in a different reaction vid. You see a lot of similarities in how swords work, even for practitioners of one that have never used the others weapons. A long metal sharp blade can be used in either school regardless of where it's from. An expert at one won't take long to figure out how to use one.
This is martial arts at its purest: Figuring out what works for the purposes of fighting! Kendo, HEMA, iaido, chanbara, arnis/escrima...the style doesn't matter necesarily, it's how you apply the techniques and adapt them to your own needs. Thank you for sharing!
@@Lftarded no I'm saying Spearmanship can easily beat any other melee weapon Also all martial arts most definitely do not have spears Boxing Muay Thai Lethwei Kudo Kickboxing Boxing Sanda Taekwondo BJJ Jj Judo Savate
Great work. While people sometimes complain about social media, it can be very beneficial for those of us interested in martial arts. There is just so much interesting stuff to learn! Only recently did I discover on UA-cam how Irish sword skills made their way to America. Now I’m seeing a mixture of European swords and kendo. So great to see all these mix ups.
As someone who has been involved in the HEMA revival since the beginning, almost 30 years now, I absolutely LOVE your channel! Best wishes from myself and the students of the Hotspur School of Defence in north-east England. Rob HEMAの復活に最初から関わってきた人として、ほぼ30年になりますが、私はあなたのチャンネルが大好きです! 私とイングランド北東部のホットスパー防衛学校の学生からの幸運を祈ります。 ロバート
Watch it again. He grabs his own sword's cutting edge, and tucks the other sword's cutting edge up under his armpit. Doing that with sharp swords and Japanese armor would get you sliced to pieces. That's a European technique that only works with thick European gauntlets, less-sharp European swords, and European armor that includes a full chainmail undershirt. It's a little disappointing when you realize the technique doesn't translate to the equipment.
@@outsideiskrrtinsideihurt699 "not really Japanese armor included manchira as under armor" That's a vest. Doesn't cover the whole armpit or the underside of the arm. Won't matter anyway, you just grabbed a katana blade with your bare fingers.
@@TheMisterGuy manchira is just the *type* of armor. A common form it takes is the vest. The article, “Gunbai: Manchira - Japanese auxiliary armor” shows different variants that did cover the armpit
@@outsideiskrrtinsideihurt699 Even if you had a less common form that covers the whole underarm, you'd still get your fingers sliced. It's not a viable technique.
I really like your channel you are of the few if not the only channel on you tube that shows asian style swordfighting with actual nice sparring and you guys just seem very passionate about you channel i really loves it. Keep it up
What most people don't understand about kenjutsu is that it has the same essence as jujutsu. Think of kenjutsu as grappling art and less a slashing art. This guy applied a kenjutsu throw beautifully. This is one of those powerful throws you will never see in Judo.
For what i´ve understood both European and Japanese swordmanship had pretty much all the same moves with slight variations depending on weapons and armor. Nowdays Kendo has lost many of the techniques after becoming a sport instead of tool to stay alive in a fight. I´ve heard that there is one over 100 years old video of a sword demonstration that includes some techniques that are nowdays forgotten in Kendo. We all have quite similar body structure and mechanics and so there are limited ways to fight effectively. As such all fighting disciplines tend to have the same moves even though local laws and other conditions might cause some variation.
@@Alex-fm9oj A film. After a quick search it seems that there are multiple films of Kendo demonstrations from that time. The earliest seems to be filmed in Kyoto 1897. I just remember that Matt Easton mentiond one of those in a video as an example at some point.
Ya, I've seen video of kendo practitioners (b/w) using take down moves, ground and pound, etc. The closest you find now is police kendo. There a certain elegance to kendo now, with the speed and form being just elevated to such a degree. But I can't help feel that something was lost with that.
@@quintessenceSL a lot of combative application in martial arts was lost as they stopped being necessary to know to survive a real fight. The "Art" part was emphasized while the "Martial" part was de-emphasized.
@@Alex-fm9oj Bruh, couldn't be more wrong. Film was invented in 1895. And this is such an easy thing to google... "In 1897, the Lumière brothers sent their representative, Gabriel Veyre, to Japan, who made several short films about 3 minutes long: Geisha in a Jinriksha, Kendo Combat, Rain Dance of Spring."
The concept of kendo beginning to practice with steel for is really in my opinion a cool evolution of fencing in general that i would like to see more of.
I think the best thing about this, is that it shows the difference between the training of a thing as an art and the use of the thing outside of the thing's own "rules".
Having done Kendo for a long time and now HEMA Longsword I've seen that there is unsurprisingly quite a lot of cross over. Having spent so much time in Kendo doing techniques with a single cutting edge I still struggle to employ false edge techniques in longsword combat though.
to be honest, there is only so much "different' you can do with a bladed weapon. At the end of the day, techniques begin to look similar or have "cross over". What is cool is seeing the techniques as they would have been practiced in a real fight. Many sport fighting (ie Olympic fencing) and traditional arts (kendo) have lost the combative application. They're still beautiful to watch and require discipline and skill to do, but they wouldn't necessarily be useful in a real fight.
Using the false edge can be tricky. One use is that you can make the same cut essentially three time in one fluid motion. Additionally, in any lower guards you can strike the hands cutting into a higher guard. It's generally safe and doesn't have the commitment that going into Window or Ochs would, as would be required if you had to cut up with the true edge.
@@armynurseboy Yeah, Kendo has given me great timing, speed and distance management (and the tenouchi is very useful too) but at lot of it is not that useful in practical combat applications. Similar deal for Olympic style fencers (we had one in my Kendo dojo) - lots of if the basics are useful but in a "real" sword fight you'd just both end up dead.
As someone who has been involved in the HEMA revival since the beginning, almost 30 years now, I absolutely LOVE your channel! Best wishes from myself and the students of the Hotspur School of Defence in north-east England. Rob 거의 30년 동안 HEMA 부흥을 시작한 이래로 참여해 온 사람으로서 저는 귀하의 채널을 절대적으로 사랑합니다! 저와 잉글랜드 북동부에 있는 홋스퍼 국방학교 학생들의 행운을 빕니다. 빼앗다
This was very interesting. I saw more effective techniques here than in almost any other video before. Its cool seeing how it can actually work in a fight rather than just the theory of it against a cooperating opponent.
This is great. Practical fighting is about what works, not what technique is correct for a specific situation. By blending aspects of many different practices, it gives you less weaknesses and a large advantage over an opponent who only utilizes one form. Of course all of this takes lots and lots of practice.
Nice he's integrating the use of binding with the katana rather than the quick parry that katana often employs (but rather than binding to thrust like with longsword it's more of a cut which makes sense for katana)
When he grip the sword, and press againts his shoulder, it hold the Blade in place, plus slide his Blade to kill and take control on his aponent Blade so he don't get hurt,such an impresive tecnique
My god, only three years and those guys are already better than the vast majority of HEMA fighter I saw on the web. They are a far better understanding of swordfighting that europeans. I guess the fact that Kendo is practiced at a very high level in korea helps the understanding of how to fight and use HEMA specific techniques. Even the way he moves is excellent and I never saw that in other HEMA video.
Because it depends on club to club. HEMA is more relaxing and not as discipline. People come in and train because they want to swing sword at each other without the pressure from an uptight tradition. It's not very competitive so you can't really use those practitioners as comparison Now there are clubs that's heavily based on producing the best competitive fencers like akademia szermierzy in Poland or Martin Fabian's school in Slovakia. Now that, is what you should use as comparison materials. Compare the guys who train competitively, instead of comparing a guy who train 1 time per week with athletes who train 4 5 times per wee
@@jaketheasianguy3307 I don t really agree with that. First I m talking about the videos of HEMA we can watch on youtube for exemple. Be it the competition or some demonstrations, I always find the practitionners laking in terms of performance. I agree that most of them are probably not practicing on the same competitive level than this guy, but I think this "flawed practice" is also the byproduct of the rules of HEMA competition (wich is more about touching like in fencing an opponent that dealing a fatal blow). My opinion is that most HEMA amateur are still trying to understand the fundamentals of a swordfight, because they first and foremost got their teachings from books and theories. With time, maybe, they will get something more grounded and honed thanks experiences and practice. For exemple, despite their interesting theoritical knowledge, Skallagrim and Shadiversity doesn't demonstrate the same level of skill and understanding of a fight than this guy. And it s quite understandable because HEMA is a small niche, very new and their masters are just old texts that can't full transmit all the knowledge of what a fight actually is. But on the other hand, I completely agree that akademia szermierzy in Poland or Martin Fabian's school in Slovakia clearly understand how those techniques are supposed to work and it shows in their videos. They move well and their attacks look like real cut and thrust. In my opinion, those guys are the best references for european HEMA practice.
@@vhailor8734 You literally cannot say "HEMA is still trying to understand the fundamentals " when there are shit tons of high level practitioners like Martin, Olbrychski, Kuhotovic.... already figured things out a long time ago. This is not 2001. And no, people don't theorizing things from the get go. The first generation of HEMA players like Matt Easton already have heavy background from sport fencing, kendo and alot other martial arts involve weapons before diving into HEMA. They applied their knowledge to understand proper body mechanics for the old techniques and tactics. They're not unathletic bumps that just read old books. Skallagrim said he's not an experience fighters and he is open for criticism to get better. Shadiversity doesn't even do HEMA, he just like to play around with swords. Also, the guy in the video is also a HEMA practitioner who also like to use Katana.
@@jaketheasianguy3307 Yes I can. You are talking about guys that are the exceptions and you make a rule out of that. That is certainly not the case for most practitionners. At the moment, the vast majority of HEMA practicionners have more in common with Shad than those guys, meaning enthusiastic amateurs who wants to know more. The teachers vastly differs in their understanding of what is a true HEMA longsword practice, on how you actually use such a weapon to fight someone and how a longsword can incapacitate an ennemy. The competition's rules of longsword is a good hint on how they are still looking for. So yeah, they are excellent HEMA practicionners that gives it a good image and have a good understanding of swordfight. But so far, that is not this image that is conveyed by most of the HEMA clubs. And it is quite normal because a big part of learning is by having role model in your clubs. Or it is too new for it to have that and I m afraid the competition s rules will actually shape it into a sport like fencing at the end.
@@vhailor8734 It is not about east versus west or Kendo vs HEMA. The divide in skill lies mostly in competitive vs non competitive, the number of practitioners, the age of practioners when starting and the organizational structure behind it. If you train for a tournament, you train differently than if you just train for fun. This is independant of the sport. For example, in Germany, you have about 4.000 HEMA practitioners. A fraction of them trains competively and participates in tournaments. I would estimate number of olympic sports fencers here at around 25.000, whereas most of them train for tournaments. You can't just compare the top 100 HEMA fencers with the top 100 olympic fencers, because the player base is so different. The organizational levels behind the sport are also vastly different. In Kendo or Olympic sports fencing you have dedicated youth training and training camps. Most of the HEMA practitioners start as adults for legal reasons in mosts clubs and dedicated national training camps exist only for a couple of years in Germany. The scandinavian countries are more tournament focused in their HEMA with the Nordic league, but even there I assume much more olympic sports fencers. Olympic fencing and Kendo with tournament-centric approach make it easier to develop a narrower skill set on a higher level. If you want to be a good HEMA practitioner, you should be able to handle your weapon(s) (ideally more than one), you should have some wrestling skills for the close distance. And you should be able to read, understand and interpret the source material. Bonus points if you can read it in the orignal language. This part requires text understanding, knowledge of context and background of your source and reasoning skills. This is vastly more demanding than just being trained by a master. If you train in a master - student relationship, you learn to follow orders and instructions. If you train with more shallow hierarchies, you need to learn reasoning and to do a civilised discourse. Also, you should be able to handle a sharp blade in cutting tests. And if you are really good, you should be able to control your blade, so that you can fence with a sharp blade under limited conditions. Especially the last part is difficult for practitioners of competive sports, because they have practiced for years to hit fast and maybe hard. By its very nature, if you have someone train in sports fencing and in HEMA, and both have the same amount of time with equally good instructors, the sports fencer will have a much more focused skill set, where he is probably more proficient than the wider skill set of the HEMA practitioner.
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Excellent 🗡️ took me oh maybe five seconds to see this is a real Swordsman 🙏 my respect 🙏. Love the pressure move, very similar to duel wielding "eagle wings". Yeah 🤔 I will be saving this in my "Training videos" playlist. A little surprised we didn't see a fake attack / faint . That's my favourite move . Raise right arm and click fingers 👀 ,step left and upward strike with left hand. Bruce Lee did this side step ! Forces your opponent to adjust his position and open his stance. In this second, attack 🗡️🙏☯️ Great video.
Imagine if Lightsaber fights were like this (aside from the grabbing of the sword). I would like to see an Old Republic story with these techniques... Or Maybe a Pre Vizla story with the Darksaber (based upon its resemblance to an actual sword).
In the old period, yes these deadly techniques had been use alot when melee weapons were popular. If guns weren't invented we would still use them today.
That upper cut to the wrist is good base technique. The counter is to just push the opponents' blade down. I'm not discounting that cut, but its part of the roots of almost all swordsmanship. There are tones of counters if you've dueled even a little you know, or have seen a couple of them.
Another bit about the upwards cut to the wrists. With many European swords (any double edged sword, really), you don’t even need to reposition your arms to cut. You can dip the blade down and cut upwards with the false edge without turning your sword.
Very nice, efficient and fluent movement. Some fundamentals of Ringen (wrestling) is also used and can be seen here as a very effective principle, rather than the pure technique :) Respect. Super!
This is great to watch! I wish more swordfights in movies were actual sparring between really competent practitioners - not choreographed, two people (presumably with hidden padding) genuinely trying to hit each other, then cut and reshoot a few times to splice it into a narrative scene. Or at least, have the fight choreography based on a real fight (so head protection could still be used when writing the scene)
You could make nice scenes taking a real high level practitioner vs a few normal dudes instructed to take him down (with vague archetypes : some must try to kill without regard for safety, some afraid, etc...). I think it would make for great chaotic scenes
That's a thing about HEMA that surprised me when I first started. As a beginner I dumbly thought it would be blade against blade (like you see in sportive fencing), but no, no, no. Most styles (because there are many styles and many schools) consist of trying to disarm, grabbing your opponent's weapon, grabbing their arms/hands, punching, kicking and going hand to hand... In some italian manuscript, it even decribes how to dislocate your opponent elbow by pushing it in with your hand ! Anyway, HEMA include way more pugilism than most people think, it can be disconcerting. I would have loved to see your HEMA player using a european medieval weapon (like a one handed sword, a sword and buckle, a staff, a halberd...) and not a katana, just to see how you'd do against such unfamiliar weapons and fighting style.
Oh absolutely. Especially Fiore. His plays really do focus on maintaining control of the opponent. He doesn't use cross-armed techniques, such as the krumphau or zwerhau. It's plainly evident why he doesn't do suggest these thing - that position is vital to any of his grapples and disarms. German fencing maintains the use of the sword. Fiore suggests grappling for a more guaranteed control of the opponent. That is, if you win the grapple...
I am pretty sure that the upward slash, aiming to cut the wrist, exists in traditional kendo! There is also a loose grip technique which makes it even more effective. Then again, perhaps the translation was a bit off and I am by no means an expert! Just academically interested :)
This is the first time I’m seeing this channel but you all earned a new sub. As a HEMA practitioner of Italian swordsmanship this was amazing. Another channel called Ask Seki Sensei did something similar. I love watching different sword philosophies meet. I wonder how you would do with a practitioner of Fiore instead of what looks like German swordwork
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As a HEMA practitioner who comes here to learn more about Eastern swordsmanship, I loved this.
The blade grab thrust was very interesting. It's similar to my favorite longsword disarm, but with the katana's shorter blade you can take the more direction option and just stab!
The messer grapples and disarms are probably more useful with a katana, they are about the same length.
There are many moves in many schools that would help you avoid or get out of that.
@@410cultivar obviously. There is no move that cannot be countered.
@Michaël Paroz Isn't that just martial arts in general after all? The part that makes it infuriating and irresistible all at once.
Probably a lot safer, too. I know you can grab a double edged sword barehanded and not get cut up TOO bad, but I'd still rather grab the hard spine of the katana. ^_^;
Amazing!! I love how he combines eastern and western techniques into something entirely new! Very interesting guy! and as a German myself I really like their name: Gesellschaft Schwertmann!
waren tatsächlich nur östliche techniken. Die selben gibt es nunmal auch in der westlichen Welt. also keine kombination einfach nur praktisches kenjutsu. mit echtem Training was nicht aus kendo besteht. Kenjutsu practicioner machen sowas auch. nur sparren eben nicht.
@@galahadthepure7277 So wie du das formulierst implizierst du, dass praktische Schwertkunst zwangsläufig fast immer gleich aussieht, egal wo der Ursprung ist.
I love this video. You guys are true students of martial arts, willing to test what you know and learn from your experiences in order to be better at your art. Much respect to you
ken-do is too conservative to just learn something and get better.
The uptick in HEMA being explored by kenjutsu practitioners recently is really fascinating. It’s been a thing since forever seeing HEMA practitioners going over kendo and the like, but seeing the opposite really brings something new to the scene
Loved it! I'm a HEMA practioner and all the skills being shown here are on point. It's great that you're mixing it up and learning from each other. I've fenced a kenjutsu guy before and he was very good, I definitely learned some things.
It's always nice to see different styles of combat and weapons interacting with each other. Thank you all for the video 👍🏻
As a Kendoka who came via jianfa to HEMA I really felt at home watching this. Thsnks for sharing.
Very cool video!
As a follow up, would be interesting if you guys showed us Sangsoodo (korean two-handed) techniques and in a later video compared it with montante / claymore / zwei-hander techniques.
Every HEMA nerd loves watching Figueyredo related videos.
Seeing a bunch of references to historical Japanese martial arts texts as well here! Seeing Yagyu Munenori, Yamamoto Kansuke and even some Miyamoto Musashi here too.
Love when people finally see that, while HEMA and HJMA have their differences, there is plenty that crosses over too. This is even more evident in steel sparring.
Vids like this are great! Please keep them up 🙏
scholaglatiatoria mentioned this same thing in a different reaction vid. You see a lot of similarities in how swords work, even for practitioners of one that have never used the others weapons. A long metal sharp blade can be used in either school regardless of where it's from. An expert at one won't take long to figure out how to use one.
This is the best youtube channel about swordsmanship
I love this upward cut. It almost feels like a krumphau, but from below. I want to try it out in sparring now!
This is martial arts at its purest: Figuring out what works for the purposes of fighting! Kendo, HEMA, iaido, chanbara, arnis/escrima...the style doesn't matter necesarily, it's how you apply the techniques and adapt them to your own needs.
Thank you for sharing!
The style doesn't matter because no matter what weapon martial arts you learn they'll never beat some dude with a shield and spear
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@@koraegievery single martial art has a spear...
@@Lftarded no I'm saying
Spearmanship can easily beat any other melee weapon
Also all martial arts most definitely do not have spears
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Very good video. As an HEMA practitioner, I enjoyed to see the two styles clash with respect for everyone.
Great work. While people sometimes complain about social media, it can be very beneficial for those of us interested in martial arts. There is just so much interesting stuff to learn!
Only recently did I discover on UA-cam how Irish sword skills made their way to America. Now I’m seeing a mixture of European swords and kendo. So great to see all these mix ups.
This was fascinating to watch and I am very glad you posted this. I have always been interested in the differences between the two styles.
This is a great perspective presented by hema practitioners. So much technique i've never seen before 👍🏼
That's awesome, it's nice to see active Hema forms work along side of Kenjutsu. Well done
As always, another great video. Interesting choice of guest and I loved what they introduced into your skill mix.
Production quality is getting to be very impressive, I am excited to see such continuous improvement!
As someone who has been involved in the HEMA revival since the beginning, almost 30 years now, I absolutely LOVE your channel!
Best wishes from myself and the students of the Hotspur School of Defence in north-east England.
Rob
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These guys are korean, they probably cannot read Japanese.
damn! I thought they were in Japan! Thanks for the heads-up!
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I love it when people with different skillsets get together and collaborate rather than argue which techniques are superior
That disarm was so smooth, I couldn't see the move at speed.
Impressive, most impressive!
Watch it again. He grabs his own sword's cutting edge, and tucks the other sword's cutting edge up under his armpit. Doing that with sharp swords and Japanese armor would get you sliced to pieces. That's a European technique that only works with thick European gauntlets, less-sharp European swords, and European armor that includes a full chainmail undershirt. It's a little disappointing when you realize the technique doesn't translate to the equipment.
@@TheMisterGuy not really Japanese armor included manchira as under armor
@@outsideiskrrtinsideihurt699 "not really Japanese armor included manchira as under armor"
That's a vest. Doesn't cover the whole armpit or the underside of the arm. Won't matter anyway, you just grabbed a katana blade with your bare fingers.
@@TheMisterGuy manchira is just the *type* of armor. A common form it takes is the vest.
The article, “Gunbai: Manchira - Japanese auxiliary armor” shows different variants that did cover the armpit
@@outsideiskrrtinsideihurt699 Even if you had a less common form that covers the whole underarm, you'd still get your fingers sliced. It's not a viable technique.
I do HEMA, SCA and just picked up a class of Kendo. I am very excited about this. Great work!
I really like your channel you are of the few if not the only channel on you tube that shows asian style swordfighting with actual nice sparring and you guys just seem very passionate about you channel i really loves it. Keep it up
What most people don't understand about kenjutsu is that it has the same essence as jujutsu. Think of kenjutsu as grappling art and less a slashing art. This guy applied a kenjutsu throw beautifully. This is one of those powerful throws you will never see in Judo.
For what i´ve understood both European and Japanese swordmanship had pretty much all the same moves with slight variations depending on weapons and armor. Nowdays Kendo has lost many of the techniques after becoming a sport instead of tool to stay alive in a fight. I´ve heard that there is one over 100 years old video of a sword demonstration that includes some techniques that are nowdays forgotten in Kendo.
We all have quite similar body structure and mechanics and so there are limited ways to fight effectively. As such all fighting disciplines tend to have the same moves even though local laws and other conditions might cause some variation.
"over 100 years old video"
That's enough
@@Alex-fm9oj A film. After a quick search it seems that there are multiple films of Kendo demonstrations from that time. The earliest seems to be filmed in Kyoto 1897. I just remember that Matt Easton mentiond one of those in a video as an example at some point.
Ya, I've seen video of kendo practitioners (b/w) using take down moves, ground and pound, etc. The closest you find now is police kendo.
There a certain elegance to kendo now, with the speed and form being just elevated to such a degree. But I can't help feel that something was lost with that.
@@quintessenceSL a lot of combative application in martial arts was lost as they stopped being necessary to know to survive a real fight. The "Art" part was emphasized while the "Martial" part was de-emphasized.
@@Alex-fm9oj Bruh, couldn't be more wrong. Film was invented in 1895. And this is such an easy thing to google... "In 1897, the Lumière brothers sent their representative, Gabriel Veyre, to Japan, who made several short films about 3 minutes long: Geisha in a Jinriksha, Kendo Combat, Rain Dance of Spring."
The concept of kendo beginning to practice with steel for is really in my opinion a cool evolution of fencing in general that i would like to see more of.
I think the best thing about this, is that it shows the difference between the training of a thing as an art and the use of the thing outside of the thing's own "rules".
I know this dude's channel, he has explored a lot of ancient eastern weaponry. Amazing channel deserve more view and recognition.
really nice to see the exchange of practice. Thanks for speak about HEMA in your vidéo. :)
Having done Kendo for a long time and now HEMA Longsword I've seen that there is unsurprisingly quite a lot of cross over. Having spent so much time in Kendo doing techniques with a single cutting edge I still struggle to employ false edge techniques in longsword combat though.
to be honest, there is only so much "different' you can do with a bladed weapon. At the end of the day, techniques begin to look similar or have "cross over". What is cool is seeing the techniques as they would have been practiced in a real fight. Many sport fighting (ie Olympic fencing) and traditional arts (kendo) have lost the combative application. They're still beautiful to watch and require discipline and skill to do, but they wouldn't necessarily be useful in a real fight.
Using the false edge can be tricky. One use is that you can make the same cut essentially three time in one fluid motion. Additionally, in any lower guards you can strike the hands cutting into a higher guard. It's generally safe and doesn't have the commitment that going into Window or Ochs would, as would be required if you had to cut up with the true edge.
@@armynurseboy Yeah, Kendo has given me great timing, speed and distance management (and the tenouchi is very useful too) but at lot of it is not that useful in practical combat applications.
Similar deal for Olympic style fencers (we had one in my Kendo dojo) - lots of if the basics are useful but in a "real" sword fight you'd just both end up dead.
@@spicketspaghet7773 Doing a purposefully short cut then coming back up with the false edge is quite a nice technique too.
close distance sword fights are super exciting to watch
very dynamic and tense
As someone who has been involved in the HEMA revival since the beginning, almost 30 years now, I absolutely LOVE your channel!
Best wishes from myself and the students of the Hotspur School of Defence in north-east England.
Rob
거의 30년 동안 HEMA 부흥을 시작한 이래로 참여해 온 사람으로서 저는 귀하의 채널을 절대적으로 사랑합니다!
저와 잉글랜드 북동부에 있는 홋스퍼 국방학교 학생들의 행운을 빕니다.
빼앗다
I love your videos they keep me humble I still have a lot to learn God bless you my friends
요즘 영상 느낌이 너무 깔끔해요! 컨셉 잘 바꾸신것 같아요
Great guest!
Please bring him back for more videos.
Watching a fluid blademaster is a spectacle to watch, a deadly one at that.
That was really cool. Great techniques.
I love the work you're doing!!
This was very interesting. I saw more effective techniques here than in almost any other video before. Its cool seeing how it can actually work in a fight rather than just the theory of it against a cooperating opponent.
WOWIE I LOVE THIS!! Id like to see more of this its incrediblee
This is great. Practical fighting is about what works, not what technique is correct for a specific situation. By blending aspects of many different practices, it gives you less weaknesses and a large advantage over an opponent who only utilizes one form. Of course all of this takes lots and lots of practice.
You can even ignore that you have blade, grab you can grab sword by its' blade and use it as a hammer
Never tried kendo or hema or really looked into it but this video was so awesome
Nice he's integrating the use of binding with the katana rather than the quick parry that katana often employs (but rather than binding to thrust like with longsword it's more of a cut which makes sense for katana)
When he grip the sword, and press againts his shoulder, it hold the Blade in place, plus slide his Blade to kill and take control on his aponent Blade so he don't get hurt,such an impresive tecnique
Hey that guy its me.
Im an HEMA and koryu budo kenjutsu man too
This channel is a sword nerd's heaven. I love it.
My god, only three years and those guys are already better than the vast majority of HEMA fighter I saw on the web. They are a far better understanding of swordfighting that europeans. I guess the fact that Kendo is practiced at a very high level in korea helps the understanding of how to fight and use HEMA specific techniques. Even the way he moves is excellent and I never saw that in other HEMA video.
Because it depends on club to club. HEMA is more relaxing and not as discipline. People come in and train because they want to swing sword at each other without the pressure from an uptight tradition. It's not very competitive so you can't really use those practitioners as comparison
Now there are clubs that's heavily based on producing the best competitive fencers like akademia szermierzy in Poland or Martin Fabian's school in Slovakia. Now that, is what you should use as comparison materials. Compare the guys who train competitively, instead of comparing a guy who train 1 time per week with athletes who train 4 5 times per wee
@@jaketheasianguy3307 I don t really agree with that. First I m talking about the videos of HEMA we can watch on youtube for exemple. Be it the competition or some demonstrations, I always find the practitionners laking in terms of performance. I agree that most of them are probably not practicing on the same competitive level than this guy, but I think this "flawed practice" is also the byproduct of the rules of HEMA competition (wich is more about touching like in fencing an opponent that dealing a fatal blow). My opinion is that most HEMA amateur are still trying to understand the fundamentals of a swordfight, because they first and foremost got their teachings from books and theories. With time, maybe, they will get something more grounded and honed thanks experiences and practice.
For exemple, despite their interesting theoritical knowledge, Skallagrim and Shadiversity doesn't demonstrate the same level of skill and understanding of a fight than this guy. And it s quite understandable because HEMA is a small niche, very new and their masters are just old texts that can't full transmit all the knowledge of what a fight actually is.
But on the other hand, I completely agree that akademia szermierzy in Poland or Martin Fabian's school in Slovakia clearly understand how those techniques are supposed to work and it shows in their videos. They move well and their attacks look like real cut and thrust. In my opinion, those guys are the best references for european HEMA practice.
@@vhailor8734 You literally cannot say "HEMA is still trying to understand the fundamentals " when there are shit tons of high level practitioners like Martin, Olbrychski, Kuhotovic.... already figured things out a long time ago. This is not 2001. And no, people don't theorizing things from the get go. The first generation of HEMA players like Matt Easton already have heavy background from sport fencing, kendo and alot other martial arts involve weapons before diving into HEMA. They applied their knowledge to understand proper body mechanics for the old techniques and tactics. They're not unathletic bumps that just read old books.
Skallagrim said he's not an experience fighters and he is open for criticism to get better. Shadiversity doesn't even do HEMA, he just like to play around with swords.
Also, the guy in the video is also a HEMA practitioner who also like to use Katana.
@@jaketheasianguy3307 Yes I can. You are talking about guys that are the exceptions and you make a rule out of that. That is certainly not the case for most practitionners. At the moment, the vast majority of HEMA practicionners have more in common with Shad than those guys, meaning enthusiastic amateurs who wants to know more. The teachers vastly differs in their understanding of what is a true HEMA longsword practice, on how you actually use such a weapon to fight someone and how a longsword can incapacitate an ennemy. The competition's rules of longsword is a good hint on how they are still looking for.
So yeah, they are excellent HEMA practicionners that gives it a good image and have a good understanding of swordfight. But so far, that is not this image that is conveyed by most of the HEMA clubs. And it is quite normal because a big part of learning is by having role model in your clubs. Or it is too new for it to have that and I m afraid the competition s rules will actually shape it into a sport like fencing at the end.
@@vhailor8734 It is not about east versus west or Kendo vs HEMA. The divide in skill lies mostly in competitive vs non competitive, the number of practitioners, the age of practioners when starting and the organizational structure behind it.
If you train for a tournament, you train differently than if you just train for fun. This is independant of the sport. For example, in Germany, you have about 4.000 HEMA practitioners. A fraction of them trains competively and participates in tournaments. I would estimate number of olympic sports fencers here at around 25.000, whereas most of them train for tournaments. You can't just compare the top 100 HEMA fencers with the top 100 olympic fencers, because the player base is so different.
The organizational levels behind the sport are also vastly different. In Kendo or Olympic sports fencing you have dedicated youth training and training camps. Most of the HEMA practitioners start as adults for legal reasons in mosts clubs and dedicated national training camps exist only for a couple of years in Germany. The scandinavian countries are more tournament focused in their HEMA with the Nordic league, but even there I assume much more olympic sports fencers.
Olympic fencing and Kendo with tournament-centric approach make it easier to develop a narrower skill set on a higher level. If you want to be a good HEMA practitioner, you should be able to handle your weapon(s) (ideally more than one), you should have some wrestling skills for the close distance. And you should be able to read, understand and interpret the source material. Bonus points if you can read it in the orignal language.
This part requires text understanding, knowledge of context and background of your source and reasoning skills. This is vastly more demanding than just being trained by a master. If you train in a master - student relationship, you learn to follow orders and instructions. If you train with more shallow hierarchies, you need to learn reasoning and to do a civilised discourse.
Also, you should be able to handle a sharp blade in cutting tests. And if you are really good, you should be able to control your blade, so that you can fence with a sharp blade under limited conditions. Especially the last part is difficult for practitioners of competive sports, because they have practiced for years to hit fast and maybe hard.
By its very nature, if you have someone train in sports fencing and in HEMA, and both have the same amount of time with equally good instructors, the sports fencer will have a much more focused skill set, where he is probably more proficient than the wider skill set of the HEMA practitioner.
Wonderful video,thank you!
That was informative..thank you..
2:32 what a beautyfull sequence of "WOO"
Excellent video, thank-you.
I am falling in love with this channel
Great vid
..love it
Great ❤❤❤ awesome vid 🎉🎉🎉🎉 thank you so much❤
So elegant. Thanks for sharing
Absolutely wonderful!
Great video!
I always wished I could learn more hand to hand skills with swords. But sadly I haven't a mentor to practice with.
If you have a good fundamental, videos like UA-cam can be a good mentor
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ua-cam.com/video/27vUArC0KRo/v-deo.html
try this!
Try finding a local HEMA group. I found one recently not too far away and now I'm studying the German Longsword
Great video, very practical.
More video with Lim! And he need do some video about Gesellshaft!
Bless!
This way of sparring and practicing is so nice :D
this is incredibly impressive. Talented guy!
That was amazing!
One of my best friends teaches english in Seoul. I would love to visit and train with all the Korean sword players!
Amazing!
Very, very cool, guys! Subscribed!;)
Excellent 🗡️ took me oh maybe five seconds to see this is a real Swordsman 🙏 my respect 🙏.
Love the pressure move, very similar to duel wielding "eagle wings". Yeah 🤔 I will be saving this in my "Training videos" playlist.
A little surprised we didn't see a fake attack / faint .
That's my favourite move . Raise right arm and click fingers 👀 ,step left and upward strike with left hand.
Bruce Lee did this side step ! Forces your opponent to adjust his position and open his stance. In this second, attack 🗡️🙏☯️
Great video.
Awesome Amazing loved it! :)
Imagine if Lightsaber fights were like this (aside from the grabbing of the sword). I would like to see an Old Republic story with these techniques... Or Maybe a Pre Vizla story with the Darksaber (based upon its resemblance to an actual sword).
That was awesome!
Amazing 🤩
In the old period, yes these deadly techniques had been use alot when melee weapons were popular. If guns weren't invented we would still use them today.
I wondered if kendo player could use western (long)sword techniques. Now I now. Fantastic work!
This was a nice video, makes me sad I dont have a kendo or HEMA club in my area...
I loved it! :)
ow that disarm was smooooth
*cheffs kiss"*
This was my first video, I will be back. This was GREAT! #HEMAVibes
That upper cut to the wrist is good base technique. The counter is to just push the opponents' blade down. I'm not discounting that cut, but its part of the roots of almost all swordsmanship. There are tones of counters if you've dueled even a little you know, or have seen a couple of them.
Honestly, this is awesome...
Another bit about the upwards cut to the wrists. With many European swords (any double edged sword, really), you don’t even need to reposition your arms to cut. You can dip the blade down and cut upwards with the false edge without turning your sword.
Very nice, efficient and fluent movement.
Some fundamentals of Ringen (wrestling) is also used and can be seen here as a very effective principle, rather than the pure technique :) Respect.
Super!
Very cool channel!
very interesting ! good way to understand fight with steel weapon.
outstanding!
You guys really know how to have fun
This is great to watch! I wish more swordfights in movies were actual sparring between really competent practitioners - not choreographed, two people (presumably with hidden padding) genuinely trying to hit each other, then cut and reshoot a few times to splice it into a narrative scene. Or at least, have the fight choreography based on a real fight (so head protection could still be used when writing the scene)
You could make nice scenes taking a real high level practitioner vs a few normal dudes instructed to take him down (with vague archetypes : some must try to kill without regard for safety, some afraid, etc...). I think it would make for great chaotic scenes
Phenomenal
That's a thing about HEMA that surprised me when I first started.
As a beginner I dumbly thought it would be blade against blade (like you see in sportive fencing), but no, no, no.
Most styles (because there are many styles and many schools) consist of trying to disarm, grabbing your opponent's weapon, grabbing their arms/hands, punching, kicking and going hand to hand...
In some italian manuscript, it even decribes how to dislocate your opponent elbow by pushing it in with your hand !
Anyway, HEMA include way more pugilism than most people think, it can be disconcerting.
I would have loved to see your HEMA player using a european medieval weapon (like a one handed sword, a sword and buckle, a staff, a halberd...) and not a katana, just to see how you'd do against such unfamiliar weapons and fighting style.
Oh absolutely. Especially Fiore. His plays really do focus on maintaining control of the opponent. He doesn't use cross-armed techniques, such as the krumphau or zwerhau. It's plainly evident why he doesn't do suggest these thing - that position is vital to any of his grapples and disarms.
German fencing maintains the use of the sword. Fiore suggests grappling for a more guaranteed control of the opponent. That is, if you win the grapple...
So I know that's a SPES type jacket, but where do I get Kendo style hakama padded like in your Saber vs Nara Blade video? It looks really good.
I am pretty sure that the upward slash, aiming to cut the wrist, exists in traditional kendo! There is also a loose grip technique which makes it even more effective. Then again, perhaps the translation was a bit off and I am by no means an expert! Just academically interested :)
This is the first time I’m seeing this channel but you all earned a new sub. As a HEMA practitioner of Italian swordsmanship this was amazing. Another channel called Ask Seki Sensei did something similar.
I love watching different sword philosophies meet. I wonder how you would do with a practitioner of Fiore instead of what looks like German swordwork
Man that was tight af
Excellent!
I need more of this
Formidable! Of course, combine east and west. Brilliant!
Any Skallagrim fans? can someone send this to him I'd love to know his thoughts as a fan of HEMA and Kendo.
Amazing!!! 🎉🎉🎉🎉
Gut job! Aim like it! :)