The Mathematics Of Collecting - Vintage Toys + The Twenty Year Rule!

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  • Опубліковано 26 гру 2024

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  • @ActionFigureGrader
    @ActionFigureGrader 2 роки тому +6

    Great video, Jules. Fascinating information. Those 1970s Matchbox cars and packaging are so beautiful.

    • @JulesBurt
      @JulesBurt  2 роки тому +3

      Thanks my friend, yes, they are really great👍

  • @SHABBYGEEK22
    @SHABBYGEEK22 2 роки тому +4

    I sat down, made a cuppa and watched this video Jules and really enjoyed it. You make some very Interesting points my friend. I remember your toy fair video a few months back where the vendors selling old trains weren't busy at all. Yeah, very interesting video my friend.

    • @JulesBurt
      @JulesBurt  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks Marc, really appreciate that my friend 👍 It's a bit of a sad affair when you think of it. Star Wars is so hot today in no small part to the new TV and film series being released. Train collecting just isn't getting the attention it once did and is in the decline. Same for stamps and coins. Now's a good time to be getting into it those hobbies as prices are declining.

  • @FraDonaghyMusic
    @FraDonaghyMusic 2 роки тому +9

    The word "vintage" literally means 20 years, coming from the French for 20 (vingt).

    • @lepterfirefall
      @lepterfirefall 2 роки тому +3

      I never knew that! THIS is what the Internet is for! (And videos of piano playing cats!).

    • @JulesBurt
      @JulesBurt  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks! Great information 🙂

    • @JulesBurt
      @JulesBurt  2 роки тому +1

      Nice 👍

  • @trashcompactorguy1710
    @trashcompactorguy1710 2 роки тому +3

    Spot on!!

    • @JulesBurt
      @JulesBurt  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks my friend 🙂

  • @habbinlad1
    @habbinlad1 2 роки тому +2

    Superb video Jules, and very informative as always mate 👍

    • @JulesBurt
      @JulesBurt  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks a lot Lenny, much appreciated my friend 👍🙂

  • @TheBadger74
    @TheBadger74 2 роки тому +4

    Well said! I have also noticed that things which are marketed as "collectibles" rarely become collectible, even after 20 years or so! Matchbox "Models of Yesteryear" springs to mind. Every auction I go to seems to have armfuls of the things for a pittance!
    I think Star Wars Vintage Collection or Black Series are a bad one, because all the tooling etc. still exists. There's an Ashoka figure that had reached about £500 on the secondary market, which was recently re-released, crushing the value!

    • @JulesBurt
      @JulesBurt  2 роки тому +2

      A very good point, to be honest, most toys made after 1995 are not going to be worth much more than what you paid for them. That's why it's just best to buy what you love, you can't go wrong then, even if it does go down in value. When I first bought Star Wars, shops couldn't give it away! The Black Series and Vintage Collection are superb but maybe not the best long term investments. 👍 Those Models of Yesteryear, yep, they are everywhere 🙂

    • @TheBadger74
      @TheBadger74 2 роки тому +2

      @@JulesBurt Oh yes, I remember the bargain buckets full of SW figs, just I was getting a bit old for toys. I think the last one I bought was Yoda for 50p or so (still have him)! Wish I'd had the foresight to pick up loads and kept them on card, but I was just a kid! Still got all my old loose figures and vehicles though. The only modern one I've got is a Black Series ROTJ Boba, just cos I liked the look of it :)

    • @JulesBurt
      @JulesBurt  2 роки тому +2

      I remember those days, I wish I'd bought far more than I did but still very pleased with what I did find back then. Those were the days👍

  • @positiveimageltd
    @positiveimageltd 2 роки тому +3

    Spot on Jules. It's to do with nostalgia and disposable income. There is definitely a peak period for top prices.

    • @JulesBurt
      @JulesBurt  2 роки тому +2

      For sure Stuart, I know it's not an exact science but you can see patterns emerging👍

  • @BossksBounty
    @BossksBounty 2 роки тому +6

    Great video Jules, I think in general the 20 year rule makes sense. There will always be exceptions like Star Wars Episode 1 toys or even POTF2. So many were kept on card because everyone thought they would make them rich lol. The market is flooded for them. As for LEGO, its well worth investing in, once a set is discontinued thats it! and if it has an exclusive figure inside thats where the money is. Just look at the Star Wars Rebels Ghost ship from 7 years ago. Crazy money!

    • @JulesBurt
      @JulesBurt  2 роки тому +1

      You said it, those mid 90's figures are so plentiful today, but it really only applies to the vintage figures. Lego is the exception and as it's now been accepted by adults as a known collectible, it's future is assured. Plus the sets are, on the whole, pretty cool, which helps. I missed that Ghost Ship but actually picked up some of the Rebels stuff, really enjoyed that series🙂

    • @Firehotbeats803
      @Firehotbeats803 2 роки тому +1

      Unfortunately lego have stiffed collectors of retiring sets in the last few years by keeping on producing the so called retiring sets

    • @JulesBurt
      @JulesBurt  2 роки тому +1

      If people buy it, Lego will keep producing it, good business 👍

  • @bumblejumper82
    @bumblejumper82 2 роки тому +3

    Great vid Jules. 20 years is a great rule of thumb for the nostalgia “kick-in”.
    I personally collect Transformers (vintage and modern) and the vintage ones started to get valuable around the early 2000s and have skyrocketed from there. I do wonder whether there will be a crash in 30 years though. I have some mint Lego in the attic for investment too! 😉

    • @JulesBurt
      @JulesBurt  2 роки тому

      You'll do well with that Lego, I'm sure of that! It's a funny one but I'm sure the twenty year rule is indeed a thing🙂 I've seen the vintage Transformers going absolutely mental,.my brother in law collects them👍

  • @darthwizzywizard
    @darthwizzywizard 2 роки тому +3

    Fantastic video. Thank you dear Sir.

    • @JulesBurt
      @JulesBurt  2 роки тому +1

      Thank my friend 👍🙂

  • @jimeagle6636
    @jimeagle6636 2 роки тому +2

    Great video. I love thinking about the economics of collecting. Ever thought about what the Supply and Demand curve would look like for a collectable? I think the most important point you made was talking about the old collectors of match box cars. There comes a time when those who collected from nostalgia die off and the prices for the things they collect either freezes or declines. Big Little Books is a good example. One day collecting paperbacks will be like collecting bottles. Eventually all books will be ebooks. I guess a good sign of the health of a collectable market is how many speculators there are. I remember in the 1980's at my local comics shop, guys buying 8 copies of every Marvel comic. There are no paperback speculators. Before the internet Dell mapbacks were very collectable. While they are still fun to collect, you will never see a surge in price of any of them. But I think your 20 year rule does apply to horror paperbacks in a large part due to Paperbacks From Hell. My question is if you had to speculate on paperbacks, what would you pick?

    • @JulesBurt
      @JulesBurt  2 роки тому

      Thanks Jim, so many questions! You're spot on, the horror genre has had a.surge with Paperbacks from Hell but you have to wonder how many people will be interested in an old Dell Mapback as time goes.on. I love them but don't go out of my way to collect them.
      If I had to predict what might get collectible in the paperback world, maybe the continued interest in Fighting Fantasy books, TV and film tie-ins will hold there value or even increase, the very rarest Penguins are continuing to climb plus authors that are still relevant today and collected, like Agatha Christie.

  • @edfivedownunderplasticplanet
    @edfivedownunderplasticplanet 2 роки тому +4

    Invaluable advise Jules! I have had that same thought before, but sometimes the kid inside me just focuse's on the here & now & it's al about me, but I figured it can be an investment in the future for whatever, not to say I don't still collect what is relevant from my childhood. Cheers👍🏻🍻

    • @JulesBurt
      @JulesBurt  2 роки тому +1

      Great stuff Ed, glad you enjoyed this. It makes you think doesn't it?! Cheers, Jules👍

  • @forenichtreader
    @forenichtreader 2 роки тому +3

    Very interesting video. Nostalgia creating a 20-year collectible cycle definitely makes sense. I wonder how much it applies to books as well. Recently I've been feeling nostalgic about the late 1990s Voyager paperback reprint editions of Philip K. Dick's books, which were the editions that were everywhere when I first started reading him.

    • @JulesBurt
      @JulesBurt  2 роки тому +1

      I have seen it apply to some book series but not many. The Fighting Fantasy books would be an example. Other authors or series...not so sure.

  • @FarmerArma
    @FarmerArma 11 місяців тому

    Thank you for this video and knowledge. I am new to collecting and find this very helpful.

    • @JulesBurt
      @JulesBurt  11 місяців тому +1

      Delighted it's helped 🙂

  • @bikerscout7467
    @bikerscout7467 2 роки тому +4

    Very intersting thoughts there Jules! It's sad because my grandad bought a lot of hornby and wrenn train sets for me after i was born in the mid 70's. As you can imagine i quickly lost interest in them when Star Wars came out! LOL I still have a lot of those trains, but as you have stated, they probably have completely lost their monetary value. At least they still maintain a nostalgic value, although i have very little interest in model railways. Star Wars is where its at for me!!!!

    • @JulesBurt
      @JulesBurt  2 роки тому +1

      They have massive nostalgic value for you as they were owned by a family member. Who cares what they are worth today. I know what you mean though, Star Wars turned many a head, including mine🙂 Thanks my friend 👍

  • @twin30mm86
    @twin30mm86 2 роки тому +4

    Great video Jules. Interesting subject.
    I've got quite a large vintage SW and Action Man collection and have been contemplating when would be the optimum time to sell up, as we obviously can't take it with us.
    I don't think vintage SW is going to run out of steam anytime soon. Vintage Action Man may be another story.

    • @JulesBurt
      @JulesBurt  2 роки тому +2

      It's a tough decision. I'm sure Star Wars has a long life still yet, but some feel that right now is the time to sell. Action Man, well maybe that has peaked, who knows🤔

  • @sylvanyoung
    @sylvanyoung 2 роки тому +2

    Great video with much taught and food for thought . Truth be told collection are now viewed as assets , and even insured . This is not a bad thing . But lets not forget the momeries and joys of finding that toy...from early childhood .🤗😊 . I remember finding a Hot Wheel and was estatic ..then i had to explane to the clerk that it was for a kid . ( yes me ) lol. Any how i am traveling ( no i am not the driver lol ) So i will rewatch later . Thanks a bunch .( less than 30 mins , but i know lots more time goes into production ) 👍👍👍👍🤘🤘🤘🤘

    • @JulesBurt
      @JulesBurt  2 роки тому

      Thanks Sylvan, yes, plenty of food for thought, glad you enjoyed it. Happy travels 👍

  • @3Storms
    @3Storms 2 роки тому +3

    The late 90s is the poison pill in that equasion. That's when Gen-X became hard-and-heavy collectors who kept 90%+ of everything MISB/MOC. That's why the POTF2/Episode 1 stuff will forever struggle to gain in value in spite of it being closer to the age of the original stuff than to what's out now.
    The second poison pill is redundancy. The 300th version of Darth Vader and He-Man will hold value up until the 301st version comes out in a couple of months.

    • @JulesBurt
      @JulesBurt  2 роки тому +2

      Yep,.buying for investment only can be a dangerous thing.My mantra is just buy what you love and you'll not go far wrong, whatever the later collectors market.makes of it. Those mid 90's Star Wars are never really going to become collectibles like the original toys.

  • @paulspopculture5592
    @paulspopculture5592 2 роки тому +3

    Great video I was checking prices for the old A team figures but thay have not gained fantastic vale this would be my thing as a kid may be as it a bit of dead franchise and nothing to spark a popularity to bring in new fans I can see starwars black series and he man origins bean worth a bit in the future

    • @JulesBurt
      @JulesBurt  2 роки тому +2

      For sure Paul. I'm surprised that the A Team figures aren't too collectible but I remember them being very plentiful years after the series was done👍 Star Wars black series seems to be an excellent investment, which I owned them🙂

  • @Lavo68
    @Lavo68 2 місяці тому +1

    In college (late 80’s)my buddy would like to bust my balls for picking up ROTJ old stock. He’d tell me to go play with my Star Wars figures. Now he’s collecting them at 57😂

    • @JulesBurt
      @JulesBurt  2 місяці тому

      You most definitely have had the last laugh🙂

    • @Lavo68
      @Lavo68 2 місяці тому +1

      @@JulesBurt Serious irony. There was legit embarrassment associated with collecting as a teenager and beyond. Just yesterday he sends me pictures of an AT-ST he picked up.

    • @JulesBurt
      @JulesBurt  Місяць тому +1

      👌