I have had a xiaomi 11 ultra CN version for 3+ years, and a xiaomi 14 ultra CN version now Tmobile: Just put the SIM in and it will work Verizon: after putting the SIM, internet work but sms and call didn't. After 2 days and a couple tricks I found on Reddit. Everything works fine ATT : no data, no sms, no call... but I didnt try longer like I did for verizon.
There are certainly disadvantages to Chinese ROM devices, however I just don't see any other way if you want a foldable at the moment. For example, I wanted to upgrade my Z Fold 3. The new Samsung doesn't feel like a good upgrade in terms of formfactor and battery. The OnePlus is better, but still, I personally think the Vivo X Fold 3 Pro is the best option so I went with it. Now, if I wanted to go global, it's only sold in India and Indonesia. Indian version only comes in black (and I wanted white), oh and it also cost an arm and a leg, and nobody ships out of Indonesia. So yes, I picked up the Chinese version. Did I have to spend probably an extra 20-30 minutes setting it up to get some things to work (such as app logos on AOD)? Yes. Does it work perfectly after that? Also yes. So in between getting a worse device, paying way more and spending some time setting it up once? Yeah, I'll pick setting it up once.
@@Labios_RotosI have on my Vivo, Google Assistant and Gemini both working. And I also have my Samsung Watch 4 connected in Galaxy Wearable and Samsung Health.
Loving the content, clearly the most knowledgeable phone reviewer in the world right now. Can I ask, when are you dropping the much anticipated head to head between the Vivo x fold pro 3 vs Honor Magic v3? Thank you.
The question here really is, why do Chinese OEMs price Global versions so high compared to the Chinese version? They are only shooting themselves in the foot here.
Even Samsung charges less in Korea than in other markets. Apple charges less in the USA than in other countries. It sucks but it's the nature of international trade.
I have mentioned this to him when contacting about getting one from his store. He said he will look into it as he agrees so 🤞 "Klarna" is a good one I have seen and used
1. I also recommend getting Google Photos to backup your photos/videos to Google account. And then also Swift Key for a more ideal keyboard experience. 2. If you want to swipe left on home for a working news section too, you can change the launcher to Microsoft. If Vivo, just make sure you go into security settings > more security, and then allow default launcher to be changed (might need to set a Vivo password first top of settings, as it asks for it). That'll make sure it stays in Microsoft launcher. 3. Google Assistant/Gemini? Install Button Mapper. You can then make double clicking the volume down button activate Google Assistant/Gemini. In App Power Consumption, change from Smart to High (otherwise it'll sleep it and stop working).
I also recommend Microsoft Launcher on Vivo if you want to swipe left on home and have a news section etc. Just make sure you go to Security > More Security settings > Replace System Launcher check top one, but uncheck second one. It'll ask you for Vivo password, which you can set in Vivo at top of settings. Download launcher, set as default in the app, and done!
Is futo keyboard any good? My next device is likely an android, but i have no way of testing those software goodies on ios. Just yesterday i was trying to find a good daily planner that doesnt double as spyware and i couldnt find a single one on ios... but 2 on android. Ended up settling on msexcel.
Writing this from my new msgic v3 chinese rom. 1st time user of chinese roms. Was very skeptical about using them but decided to pull the trigger as i was hoping to upgrade the fold 5 to the 6 but we know what a disappointment that turned out to be, yet again. First and foremost this phone is incredible. Its truly unbelievable how thin yet fully loaded this device is hardware-wise. As a power user, my main gripe is that there is no way to have google assistant. Wheter by hotword or button press. What AD keepa stating is factually incorrect. Yea you can use the mic button to activate google search but that is for web based searches and not for phone based command such as turn off (x) or call (y). Which to me, as humble human, is a huge inconvenience especially given the OS is technically googles android. But i belive this has something to do with the code in the framework. Considering flashing to global rom if/when becomes available but concerned abkut security implications. If only samsung could make this kinda phone with their software then there would be nothing else to want for in a phone imo
I have Google Assistant and Gemini both working on my Chinese rom. I basically installed nearly every Google app and service first. I just put the button on front screen, hit it, and speak. And it does allow me to call etc.
there are physical cards that work like esim - you insert them and you can operate them exactly like esim - with esim you have all the features you have in a smartphone with integrated esim - this is a good solotions for china version mobile
I've had Chinese roms on my last 3 phones and the only problem I have had is with my vivo during phone calls. The phone will continue to ring through the conversation but the other party can't hear it. Doesn't matter which phone app I use. On a positive note, t mobile, mint, and Google fi all work on Chinese roms since they use the same bands
Sorry, mate but your assessment is wrong. I am a Chinese phone lover, but cannot stand dealing with Chinese ROMs. It's not one thing, it's death by a thousand cuts. Maybe I could live without Android Auto, or easy watch connection, or maps history, all calender not always syncing... But it feels like a constant fight against my phone and anxiety on will it play nice or not and trying to kill that Chinese AI assistant that keeps popping up. Phones are made to be convenient, above all.
I have a vivo x100 pro here in the US Chinese rom and google pay works no issue. We purchased the phone while in China, Excellent. Verizon does work-just shows 4g + not 5g.
I wholeheartedly agree with you Chinese mobiles get a bad rap, I lived and worked in China for 16 years after leaving the UK and never had s problem ever! Just been back for 4 weeks after a gap of 7 years and their tech absolutely blew me away, they are streets ahead of anyone in this area. From EVs to Mobiles.
I do believe, here in the US the Oneplus open is an alternative, but the device currently has Snapdragon Gen 2 hardware. OnePlus is a subsidiary of Oppo, which is owned by BBK Electronics, a corporation that also owns Vivo, the word is their new updated device for 2025 will be along the same lines as the Vivo X Fold 3 and using Snapdragon Gen 3. Would be nice if they skipped that and went direct to Gen 4
I'm looking into chinese roms as I've never used one before. I used a lot of custom roms. The things that I don't know is : How bad is the data collection ? are there spyware stuff ? are there app running without my permission ? is it possible to uninstall all the bloatware ? (I know google does the same and I don't trust google too.) Does play integrity works ? The issue is that the devices that are interesting (EX: Vivo X200 pro mini) has no unlockable bootloader so once you have Origin OS you're stuck with it. Also is it possible to unblock 4G B20 ? as it's massively used where I live. Otherwise your video answered quiet nicely my other questions :) unfortunately I can't find the google pay alternative you mention... maybe it's US only :(
I disagree. Having Google assistant mapped to the power button is one of the deal breakers. With the software button, you have to close the app, find the widget, ask Google, go back into the app (maybe even reload the multitasking you were on). This isn't an issue with a physical button as it just pops up on top of whatever you were already doing. Honestly, I never use Hey Google, I just use the physical button and pull up the keyboard as a shortcut to Google search. Super convenient.
He’s missed that from the video. He’s compared the google mic to the side button which as you say isn’t as smooth an experience. But most people will activate voice assistant with voice commands which isn’t possible.
@@tinyplanet_360 I absolutely agree, most people just say hey Google. But on Chinese Roms, you also can't press the side button to activate Google assistant.
Hi Mike, great video and content as always, now that the Chinese rom phones , IE. honor magic V3 and Vivo c fold 3 pro have android auto, what features do we not get as opposed to the global rom devices? Your response will be greatly appreciated 👍🏾
I have been using chinese rom phones for a couple of years now. Absolutely no problems, besides using my language on Oppo (dutch) . For Vivo and Honor my language is normally available. Not missing Android auto anymore. Music streams via Bluetooth just fine in my car. I can flip my Vivo Fold 3 open and "rest" on the display to use maps, no issues 👍🏼💪🏼 . Nice video Mike! ✅
Average Dad any chance in the future you would be able to setup trade-in program for Chinese ROM devices? I currently have a Vivo X Fold 2 in mint condition from last year. Love your channel!
Hi. Finally i have been able to pair my x100 ultra with a Samsung 7 watch ultra with your instructions. I downloaded samsung wearable app from the vivo store and upgrade the version from the Update check inside. Thanks for your help
I've got the Open and have been eyeing the vivo for an upgrade. But it doesn't seem like that big of one. Besides the battery (wireless and +1000mah and technically the fingerprint), there's not many differences, right? Would absolutely use your tech store if you were able to convince me:)
Great video Mike, hopefully breaking down misinformation walls. As someone that has owned the Vivo X Fold 2 and Vivo X Fold 3 Pro thanks to you, I can attest to the accuracy of this video.
I bought the same phone end of may. No issues. Android auto is not important to me, I have a Tesla. All apps work, including banking, security and notifications. Only to get notifications on the always-on-display I needed to follow a workaround from Reddit. Even my wife bought the xfold, she ended her iPhone history and will very likely not go back. Once you get used to the big screen in combination with the superior camera you will love it❤
@@Agvd26-h9pI am talking about the little symbol that indicates there was a text message, a missed call, an email. On Chinese Rom it doesn't show a little symbol for an unread WhatsApp message by default. But a workaround can add it.
I am looking for my first foldable phone... And I'm thinking to buy from yours average dad store chinese rom one. So which one is better - Vivo X Fold 3 Pro or Honor Magic V3? 🤔 Camera on the phone is very important for me :)
I don't think it's fair to entirely dismiss the global version of the OPPO Find N3! Sure Vivo has better cameras, and Honor, and Xiaomi have thinner, but OPPO still has the best inner screen. And we still have the Find N4/ Open 2 coming first quarter of next year
Looking forward to seeing this, I want to get a Fold Phone.. not had one yet and the ones with Chinese ROMs seem to be pretty good from what I can see..
They come with alot of unremovable bloatware and ads and its made difficult to find the options to turn them off. ****Edit**** sorry I forgot to mention it was xiaomi and huawei specifically that were known for this. I do not know about the other brands
I have both the OPPO Find X7 Ultra and the Vivo X100 Ultra and I have yet to get one ad on either of them... As for the unremovable bloat, there's only 2 apps I can't remove on both of them.
@@Agvd26-h9p Nah, I'm not advertising China phones here, but those days are over. The only things that are a problem (and both can be easily fixed with a workaround) are Android Auto and WearOS watches. Don't care or use both of them. If you can live without those, every other thing will work just fine.
Thank you again for such a great video!. Could you please check the new xiaomi s4 watch and tell us will it connect to a vivo phone with no issues, since it runs Hyper Os and not the Wear Os?
Vivo phones in the UK on thee at least has far better connectivity than any other phones, especially in rural locations. Band 20 is the most important factor in buying any phone. I have never had problems with NFC once set up can take 20 minutes. I am still not sold on using Android Auto. Just read your terms for you car. They take insane personal data in most cases.
does global rom versions have the same issues? do you know if these work with MFA in the USA? Any issues with corporate security apps like Okta, Symantec VIP, Azure MFA, Google Authentication, Duo, etc?.. more business use cases vs home?
My other question... I'm a medical laser technician, my job requires my phones to have wifi calling available because most hospitals dont have cellular signal in the OR wings. Do any of these Chinese devices have WiFi calling that works in the US? I know... Very specific. But Verizon and WiFi calling are a must and therefore deal breakers if not available.
Wifi calling works fine. None of these phones will work with verizon. Verizon will not allow an IMEI of a phone not on their compatible list to be added to their database. So phone and text will not work.
Thanks for your great videos! As a result I've bought the Vivo Xfold3 and I love it. It came set up with the Google play store and everything works perfectly. Just one very minor irritation - is there a way to get rid of the chinese characters on the qwerty keyboard?
I have the Vivo X Fold 3 Pro global version here in the USA on the AT&T network and it works flawlessly for me. I was loyal to Samsung from day one to the galaxy on up to the Fold 4. I was disappointed with the front narrow screen and with no improvement on the fold 6 I decided to go with the Vivo. I love it it, but I do have to say I love Samsung's software better, and I do miss the S-pen. Vivo is what Samsung should have been, but sadly Samsung got greedy and lazy.
Can you please tell me where you bought that phone at I have been looking for a vivo xfold 3 Pro for so long and all I keep finding is the Chinese version
Speaking of Chinese roms. Do you have any thoughts on why they always seem to keep the more "fun" colours to China only models? Always seem to get more restricted colours here (Uk)
Does anyone know if any of these chinese phones work on Verizon in the US? I use foldables on my work line in which my company will only allow Verizon service.
Switched from S23U to Vivo x100 Pro CN Rom. I do miss the UI of samsung it's just good. No more chinese apps on my screen very fast to clean. Also the speaker is louder. The only drawback for me is not able to use other sms apps because notifications just wont come. Overall im quite happy with the switch.
You can change the launcher if you wanna try something different, like Microsoft or Nova. Just make sure you go into security settings > more security, and then allow default launcher to be changed. This means you also get news section working too if you swipe left on home.
@@supe32no. It will NOT work. They will not allow an IMEI from a phone not in their database to be added to their network. So calling and text won't work. I tried, had to switch to t mobile .
Just moving from a Fold3 to a Vivo Xfold3 pro. It is a lot of work to make it work for me/learn Origin OS. Like to do it, but if you just want to have a working phone it might be easier to stay with Samsung ...
You can also just switch the launcher to Microsoft and get Swift Key for better keyboard. That way, when you swipe left, you still get News Section on Home screen, Copilot, Calendars etc. Just make sure you select Settings > More Settings > Allow default launcher to be changed. Think there may be some Samsung Style launchers too.
Just bought a china rom phone and what i don't like are those apps in chinese. The thing is the apps are part of the ui and some things are not translated to English, which is very annoying. Any solutions?
Thank you for the video. can I get the link to your Store? Do you ship to Africa? I am currently using Galaxy S23 Ultra and the camera is trash for me. over sharpening all over which always ruins the details of the photos. I want to upgrade to the Vivo X100 ultra. I was planning to say the X100 pro but it seems the X 10O ultra is far superior. I want to buy from you, but only if you Ship to Africa. Give me the link to your store.
My next smartphone will be a Chinese phone. I am tired of Samsung skimping on hardware components. However, I want to wait to have at least seven years of Android updates. If not, I am not sure if it is an option. Maybe there is a good custom ROM?
I've used the Xiaomi 12S Ultra Chinese model. It worked 99% as in the network worked just fine in city centres here in Ireland. However, it was pretty annoying when on the train in countryside between cities or town centres. I believe Chinese Xiaomi models skip 1 network 4G band (B20) on most if not all models. Oppo and Honor though throw in all bands on all/most models I believe. Vivo skips this band as well except for the top of the line flagship (ultra) and the folds/flips. My current devices are global Xiaomi 14 Ultra and Samsung S24 Ultra. Ludicrous prices here in EU 😅... Love 14 Ultra more.❤
@@Agvd26-h9p I didn't have problems with the Chinese rom to clarify, other than what I mentioned, the network when I was away from the city or town centre here in Ireland. I don't use Android auto so no issue there for me. Everything else worked like global roms. The network only struggled as B20 is the most common band here but I still had connection.
Here's the problem with esim that I have. Right now I'm on ATT, but when I switch my sim card between my Chinese devices, ATT sends me a text saying this phone is compatible with their network. Now I know that it is, so I ignore that message. However with esim, they can control access to their network and if you have multiple phones, like I have switching out an esim to another phone can be a hassle vs just popping it out of one and placing it in another.
My vivo x fold 3 pro when recording 4k 60 stutters from the start and sometimes goes from 60 fps to under 60 for some reason, love this phone though, I was in charge of video and photos on my sister's baby shower and everyone was shocked at the quality, I was heavily thanked lol
For the last couple of months, I've been using the Chinese ROM on my Xiaomi K70. Regrettably, it's lacking in various areas, especially when it comes to notifications and the absence of quick share. I believe this is peculiar to Xiaomi and their worst software in the planet: Hyperos. I wish you honestly speak about that. However I hear that Oppo and Vivo are bettet
I've got a Chinese Redmi K60 Ultra and notifications are a problem also the quickshare is also another silly problem. I've kept my Note 10+ and use both phones and my Note 10+ gets all the notifications with zero issues.
Tonight I have to decide between my buying decision for s24 Ultra or the Vivo x100 Ultra !! Actually I was going for the find X7 Ultra black dual stitched leather one, but could not manage to region unlock that one😢😢😢 I am seriously confused between the trustworthy experience of one UI and its regular and stable security updates and the world class camera system of x100 ultra along with fun touch OS which is not so trustworthy as an Android skin 😢😢😢😢
@@elmhurstenglish5938 please tell me about something , are you receiving regular updates ?? Is the Android experience I mean the skin experience stable ?? Are there any laggings stuttering ??
Hey AD, I could use your advice here. I want to try out my first foldable device and Im between the Vivo X3 fold regular and the Honor magic V2. Im in France and I could get the Vivo for 1077eur (12gb/256gb) from your web site or i can get right now the Honor for 1100 (16gb/512gb) directly from Honor France with warranty and global rom (due to the current summer sale they have). I dont have a car and never have used android auto. Having said that, which one would you pick? I'm worried about the resell value of a Chinese ROM device here in France, and I also like having the option of a stylus (even though the magic pen is not easy to get and it's pretty expensive)
@@AverageDadOfficial from your website, shipped to France that one is almost 1300eur. A bit out of the budget, also, in previous videos you mentioned how you think the regular 3 food is a better deal 😅
Thank you for the video, very helpful. I had a few questions, i am looking to get a Realme GT6 Chinese ROM with Google Play, do you know if it will still have chinese stuff on it like the news feed and browser always in chinese? This is after removing the chinese apps manually. Does Chinese ROMs get android and security updates in line with when they are released or does it happen a little later? I also have an option to buy one with a Russia ROM, been told it works like normal here in the UK with OTA and NFC without any russian writing. I have checked the bands for compatibility. Thank you everyone ❤
I am curious as to whether the Oppo Watch X works with Chinese roms? It runs wear OS so I’m guessing no but maybe a workout exists like for the Samsung watches?
Ok question. What about Google Backup. I have a Vivo and there is no option to back up to Google. Does this mean when I get another phone. I won't be able to copy over apps and data from the Chinese room Vivo?
Thanks AD. If anyone owns an Honor Magic V3: can you kindly post is Wi Fi calling works in the UK. Also, can you set up the phone using google back up? Thank you
Ok so im from USA and in the military on deployment in Poland right now. I have a phone service with Xfinity. I really want the honor magic v3. Will i be able to have service and change all the phone text english? I dont think google fi it is available for it.
Also Honor cannot login to the Honor connect. So cannot access my honor health features. Not complaining, if theres a way around please help me. Thank you
just got my vivoX100 ultra yesterday. Only thing i notice not working is the app shop i use the hell out of it to😂. its not a dealbreaker. Also i notice theres no swipe to text.
I have a Vivo X Fold 3 Pro. I teach in China and spend summers in America. I cannot figure out how to change the language in the KzITS to English, and any widget apps I downloaded, don't work well consistently (regarding software). Do you have any recommendations?
Hi! How were you able to download the CURVE app, is it the app he's talking about in the video where we can put our debit and credit cards in, and it uses NFC?
I tested Xiaomi 13 ultra with stock china rom and all worked ok except Android Auto. Than vith OPPO FLIP I have problem, to get the text massages sometimes. it is hit or miss 9 out of 10. So after 6 months I had to change. Xiaomi EU ROM rocks.
There are better "adapters" to use for android auto. If you have both carplay and AA look for carplay ai box with android. Uses AA from car as the adapter mimics the phone. Works perfectly.
American folks... T-Mobile works extremely well with Chinese phones and regular sim cards
Att as well
5g 1gb/s 🎉 on T-Mobile
No issues with xiaomi mix fold 3, honor magic v2 and Vivo x fold 3 on TMO in US
I have had a xiaomi 11 ultra CN version for 3+ years, and a xiaomi 14 ultra CN version now
Tmobile: Just put the SIM in and it will work
Verizon: after putting the SIM, internet work but sms and call didn't. After 2 days and a couple tricks I found on Reddit. Everything works fine
ATT : no data, no sms, no call... but I didnt try longer like I did for verizon.
I can only get 4g speeds on my x fold 3 pro on t mobile even though it shows 5g. A Samsung phone next to it gets 400-600 at all times
Thanks a lot AD.. you have really addressed my concerns regarding Chinese ROM devices. I'm gonna be buying one real soon. Much love from 🇳🇬
No problem 👍
There are certainly disadvantages to Chinese ROM devices, however I just don't see any other way if you want a foldable at the moment. For example, I wanted to upgrade my Z Fold 3. The new Samsung doesn't feel like a good upgrade in terms of formfactor and battery. The OnePlus is better, but still, I personally think the Vivo X Fold 3 Pro is the best option so I went with it. Now, if I wanted to go global, it's only sold in India and Indonesia. Indian version only comes in black (and I wanted white), oh and it also cost an arm and a leg, and nobody ships out of Indonesia. So yes, I picked up the Chinese version. Did I have to spend probably an extra 20-30 minutes setting it up to get some things to work (such as app logos on AOD)? Yes. Does it work perfectly after that? Also yes. So in between getting a worse device, paying way more and spending some time setting it up once? Yeah, I'll pick setting it up once.
@@Labios_RotosI have on my Vivo, Google Assistant and Gemini both working. And I also have my Samsung Watch 4 connected in Galaxy Wearable and Samsung Health.
@@Labios_Rotos It's like you didn't even watch the video
@@sambeam2404 I did. YOU DIDN'T.
i'm just waiting for the honor v3 global release. i just can't go on without android auto
I've used Oppo, Xiaomi, and Vivo phones on T-Mobile in the US without issue. Currently using the Vivo X100 Ultra.
Is x100 ultra better than Xiaomi 14 ultra & oppo find X7 ultra ?
Loving the content, clearly the most knowledgeable phone reviewer in the world right now. Can I ask, when are you dropping the much anticipated head to head between the Vivo x fold pro 3 vs Honor Magic v3? Thank you.
The question here really is, why do Chinese OEMs price Global versions so high compared to the Chinese version? They are only shooting themselves in the foot here.
Even Samsung charges less in Korea than in other markets. Apple charges less in the USA than in other countries. It sucks but it's the nature of international trade.
If the online stores that sell chinese rom phones have payment plans it would sell more
I have mentioned this to him when contacting about getting one from his store. He said he will look into it as he agrees so 🤞
"Klarna" is a good one I have seen and used
1. I also recommend getting Google Photos to backup your photos/videos to Google account. And then also Swift Key for a more ideal keyboard experience.
2. If you want to swipe left on home for a working news section too, you can change the launcher to Microsoft. If Vivo, just make sure you go into security settings > more security, and then allow default launcher to be changed (might need to set a Vivo password first top of settings, as it asks for it). That'll make sure it stays in Microsoft launcher.
3. Google Assistant/Gemini? Install Button Mapper. You can then make double clicking the volume down button activate Google Assistant/Gemini. In App Power Consumption, change from Smart to High (otherwise it'll sleep it and stop working).
Under rated comment. That SwiftKey has saved me so much hassle!
I also recommend Microsoft Launcher on Vivo if you want to swipe left on home and have a news section etc. Just make sure you go to Security > More Security settings > Replace System Launcher check top one, but uncheck second one. It'll ask you for Vivo password, which you can set in Vivo at top of settings. Download launcher, set as default in the app, and done!
Is futo keyboard any good? My next device is likely an android, but i have no way of testing those software goodies on ios. Just yesterday i was trying to find a good daily planner that doesnt double as spyware and i couldnt find a single one on ios... but 2 on android. Ended up settling on msexcel.
@@elmhurstenglish5938 Not all heroes wear capes
@@elmhurstenglish5938 Trying to get the Microsoft launcher enabled. Ive allowed the replacement of system launcher. What do I do from there?
Writing this from my new msgic v3 chinese rom. 1st time user of chinese roms. Was very skeptical about using them but decided to pull the trigger as i was hoping to upgrade the fold 5 to the 6 but we know what a disappointment that turned out to be, yet again. First and foremost this phone is incredible. Its truly unbelievable how thin yet fully loaded this device is hardware-wise. As a power user, my main gripe is that there is no way to have google assistant. Wheter by hotword or button press. What AD keepa stating is factually incorrect. Yea you can use the mic button to activate google search but that is for web based searches and not for phone based command such as turn off (x) or call (y). Which to me, as humble human, is a huge inconvenience especially given the OS is technically googles android. But i belive this has something to do with the code in the framework. Considering flashing to global rom if/when becomes available but concerned abkut security implications.
If only samsung could make this kinda phone with their software then there would be nothing else to want for in a phone imo
I have Google Assistant and Gemini both working on my Chinese rom. I basically installed nearly every Google app and service first. I just put the button on front screen, hit it, and speak. And it does allow me to call etc.
i made a video about this and it does work but hey, you know best
there are physical cards that work like esim - you insert them and you can operate them exactly like esim - with esim you have all the features you have in a smartphone with integrated esim - this is a good solotions for china version mobile
I'm a samsung knight but i love the Chinese phones. Absolutely love them and have owned quite a few. My next purchase will be the Vivo x100 ultra 👍
I have T-mobile in the U.S and I have Claro in the Dominican Republic and work flawlessly with my Vivo X Fold 3 Pro
Does xiaomi mix fold 2 or oppo find n2 work in dominican republic?
I've had Chinese roms on my last 3 phones and the only problem I have had is with my vivo during phone calls. The phone will continue to ring through the conversation but the other party can't hear it. Doesn't matter which phone app I use. On a positive note, t mobile, mint, and Google fi all work on Chinese roms since they use the same bands
Sorry, mate but your assessment is wrong. I am a Chinese phone lover, but cannot stand dealing with Chinese ROMs. It's not one thing, it's death by a thousand cuts. Maybe I could live without Android Auto, or easy watch connection, or maps history, all calender not always syncing... But it feels like a constant fight against my phone and anxiety on will it play nice or not and trying to kill that Chinese AI assistant that keeps popping up. Phones are made to be convenient, above all.
if a phone is purchased from China, and shipped to the UK, would that render the warranty invalid?
I have a vivo x100 pro here in the US Chinese rom and google pay works no issue. We purchased the phone while in China, Excellent. Verizon does work-just shows 4g + not 5g.
I wholeheartedly agree with you Chinese mobiles get a bad rap, I lived and worked in China for 16 years after leaving the UK and never had s problem ever! Just been back for 4 weeks after a gap of 7 years and their tech absolutely blew me away, they are streets ahead of anyone in this area. From EVs to Mobiles.
I am in the UK and have the Vivo x100 Pro too, and Google Pay works on my phone too, even though the seller said it wouldn't. I am super chuffed 🥳😊
I do believe, here in the US the Oneplus open is an alternative, but the device currently has Snapdragon Gen 2 hardware.
OnePlus is a subsidiary of Oppo, which is owned by BBK Electronics, a corporation that also owns Vivo, the word is their new updated device for 2025 will be along the same lines as the Vivo X Fold 3 and using Snapdragon Gen 3. Would be nice if they skipped that and went direct to Gen 4
I'm looking into chinese roms as I've never used one before. I used a lot of custom roms. The things that I don't know is : How bad is the data collection ? are there spyware stuff ? are there app running without my permission ? is it possible to uninstall all the bloatware ? (I know google does the same and I don't trust google too.) Does play integrity works ? The issue is that the devices that are interesting (EX: Vivo X200 pro mini) has no unlockable bootloader so once you have Origin OS you're stuck with it. Also is it possible to unblock 4G B20 ? as it's massively used where I live.
Otherwise your video answered quiet nicely my other questions :) unfortunately I can't find the google pay alternative you mention... maybe it's US only :(
I disagree. Having Google assistant mapped to the power button is one of the deal breakers. With the software button, you have to close the app, find the widget, ask Google, go back into the app (maybe even reload the multitasking you were on). This isn't an issue with a physical button as it just pops up on top of whatever you were already doing. Honestly, I never use Hey Google, I just use the physical button and pull up the keyboard as a shortcut to Google search. Super convenient.
He’s missed that from the video. He’s compared the google mic to the side button which as you say isn’t as smooth an experience. But most people will activate voice assistant with voice commands which isn’t possible.
@@tinyplanet_360 I absolutely agree, most people just say hey Google. But on Chinese Roms, you also can't press the side button to activate Google assistant.
Hi Mike, great video and content as always, now that the Chinese rom phones , IE. honor magic V3 and Vivo c fold 3 pro have android auto, what features do we not get as opposed to the global rom devices? Your response will be greatly appreciated 👍🏾
I have been using chinese rom phones for a couple of years now. Absolutely no problems, besides using my language on Oppo (dutch) . For Vivo and Honor my language is normally available. Not missing Android auto anymore. Music streams via Bluetooth just fine in my car. I can flip my Vivo Fold 3 open and "rest" on the display to use maps, no issues 👍🏼💪🏼 . Nice video Mike! ✅
I've had them all OPPO vivo honor mi mix. They set up so easy now. Before was a little pain but worth it . I'm watching on my global v2. Nice video
I never followed a youtube channel prior yours haha. Thanks for the tipp about the curve app, have not heard about it before!
Happy to help!
New sub here!!! Absolutely love the channel and your unabashed candor!!! Great stuff!! Don’t change a thing!
Average Dad any chance in the future you would be able to setup trade-in program for Chinese ROM devices? I currently have a Vivo X Fold 2 in mint condition from last year. Love your channel!
Hi. Finally i have been able to pair my x100 ultra with a Samsung 7 watch ultra with your instructions. I downloaded samsung wearable app from the vivo store and upgrade the version from the Update check inside. Thanks for your help
I've got the Open and have been eyeing the vivo for an upgrade. But it doesn't seem like that big of one. Besides the battery (wireless and +1000mah and technically the fingerprint), there's not many differences, right? Would absolutely use your tech store if you were able to convince me:)
Great video Mike, hopefully breaking down misinformation walls. As someone that has owned the Vivo X Fold 2 and Vivo X Fold 3 Pro thanks to you, I can attest to the accuracy of this video.
Been using my vivo x fold 3 pro for about 6weeks now. It has a Chinese rom and iv had no problems. Android auto isn't important for me
Enlighten us @@Agvd26-h9p
I bought the same phone end of may. No issues. Android auto is not important to me, I have a Tesla. All apps work, including banking, security and notifications. Only to get notifications on the always-on-display I needed to follow a workaround from Reddit. Even my wife bought the xfold, she ended her iPhone history and will very likely not go back.
Once you get used to the big screen in combination with the superior camera you will love it❤
Anybody on here have a vivo x fold 3 global on verizon?
@@Agvd26-h9pI am talking about the little symbol that indicates there was a text message, a missed call, an email. On Chinese Rom it doesn't show a little symbol for an unread WhatsApp message by default. But a workaround can add it.
I have the Vivo X Fold 3 Pro Chinese ROM and android auto is working great on it now.
I am looking for my first foldable phone... And I'm thinking to buy from yours average dad store chinese rom one. So which one is better - Vivo X Fold 3 Pro or Honor Magic V3? 🤔 Camera on the phone is very important for me :)
I use Oppo find x6 pro in Denmark without any issue, it works flawlessly.
I don't think it's fair to entirely dismiss the global version of the OPPO Find N3! Sure Vivo has better cameras, and Honor, and Xiaomi have thinner, but OPPO still has the best inner screen. And we still have the Find N4/ Open 2 coming first quarter of next year
What are the differences between normal Chinese ROM vs. Unlocked Chinese ROM?
My next phone hopefully the K80 Pro,thx for all the helpful info..
does all China rom phones not have wifi calling?
I've been looking at getting the Vivo S19 Pro. Maybe you could do a review on this and also some lower price Chinese phones 😊
Looking forward to seeing this, I want to get a Fold Phone.. not had one yet and the ones with Chinese ROMs seem to be pretty good from what I can see..
They come with alot of unremovable bloatware and ads and its made difficult to find the options to turn them off. ****Edit**** sorry I forgot to mention it was xiaomi and huawei specifically that were known for this. I do not know about the other brands
There are tons on youtube,,, weird comment
Like really really weird😅@@AverageDadOfficial
I have both the OPPO Find X7 Ultra and the Vivo X100 Ultra and I have yet to get one ad on either of them...
As for the unremovable bloat, there's only 2 apps I can't remove on both of them.
@@Agvd26-h9p Nah, I'm not advertising China phones here, but those days are over. The only things that are a problem (and both can be easily fixed with a workaround) are Android Auto and WearOS watches. Don't care or use both of them. If you can live without those, every other thing will work just fine.
Would you please open shipments to Saudi Arabia ?
Thank you again for such a great video!. Could you please check the new xiaomi s4 watch and tell us will it connect to a vivo phone with no issues, since it runs Hyper Os and not the Wear Os?
Vivo phones in the UK on thee at least has far better connectivity than any other phones, especially in rural locations. Band 20 is the most important factor in buying any phone.
I have never had problems with NFC once set up can take 20 minutes.
I am still not sold on using Android Auto. Just read your terms for you car. They take insane personal data in most cases.
If you double tap the power button you get a Chinese NFC wallet. Does that work if set up or can be replaced?
@@elmhurstenglish5938 Hi I use Google pay, under more conections, NFC set Google pay as default. I usually uninstall the native wallet so can't reset
does global rom versions have the same issues? do you know if these work with MFA in the USA? Any issues with corporate security apps like Okta, Symantec VIP, Azure MFA, Google Authentication, Duo, etc?.. more business use cases vs home?
global versions work fine like any other android phone
My other question... I'm a medical laser technician, my job requires my phones to have wifi calling available because most hospitals dont have cellular signal in the OR wings. Do any of these Chinese devices have WiFi calling that works in the US? I know... Very specific. But Verizon and WiFi calling are a must and therefore deal breakers if not available.
Wifi calling works fine. None of these phones will work with verizon. Verizon will not allow an IMEI of a phone not on their compatible list to be added to their database. So phone and text will not work.
@williamwood1825 unfortunate because many of Verizons 4G and 5G bands are supported.
Thanks for your great videos! As a result I've bought the Vivo Xfold3 and I love it. It came set up with the Google play store and everything works perfectly. Just one very minor irritation - is there a way to get rid of the chinese characters on the qwerty keyboard?
just download Gboard and make it default
Perfect, thanks a million - you've really helped me❤
Does Chinese versions have Netflix hdr support
I have the Vivo X Fold 3 Pro global version here in the USA on the AT&T network and it works flawlessly for me. I was loyal to Samsung from day one to the galaxy on up to the Fold 4. I was disappointed with the front narrow screen and with no improvement on the fold 6 I decided to go with the Vivo. I love it it, but I do have to say I love Samsung's software better, and I do miss the S-pen. Vivo is what Samsung should have been, but sadly Samsung got greedy and lazy.
Can you please tell me where you bought that phone at I have been looking for a vivo xfold 3 Pro for so long and all I keep finding is the Chinese version
My store lol! link in description
Trinity Electronics has it for much cheaper price than this seller.
@@broly19812010 Hi, yes, it was pricey, but I bought it on eBay.
@@broly19812010yes Mike sells both the Chinese version and global version of his tech store. Check out the link in his description 👍🏻👍🏻
Speaking of Chinese roms. Do you have any thoughts on why they always seem to keep the more "fun" colours to China only models? Always seem to get more restricted colours here (Uk)
Great video as always mate ❤
Does anyone know if any of these chinese phones work on Verizon in the US? I use foldables on my work line in which my company will only allow Verizon service.
I'm on Verizon as well lol
Switched from S23U to Vivo x100 Pro CN Rom. I do miss the UI of samsung it's just good. No more chinese apps on my screen very fast to clean. Also the speaker is louder. The only drawback for me is not able to use other sms apps because notifications just wont come. Overall im quite happy with the switch.
You can change the launcher if you wanna try something different, like Microsoft or Nova. Just make sure you go into security settings > more security, and then allow default launcher to be changed. This means you also get news section working too if you swipe left on home.
@@elmhurstenglish5938 Thank you will try it.
I bought my vivo fold 3 from average dad. My phone works great in USA on AT&T.
4G or 5G?
I currently have Verizon. Need to know if it'll work for them lol
5G of course
@@supe32no. It will NOT work. They will not allow an IMEI from a phone not in their database to be added to their network. So calling and text won't work. I tried, had to switch to t mobile .
@@williamwood1825 I appreciate your response thank you
thanks for the video buddy just catching up :D
Thanks for the visit
Just moving from a Fold3 to a Vivo Xfold3 pro. It is a lot of work to make it work for me/learn Origin OS. Like to do it, but if you just want to have a working phone it might be easier to stay with Samsung ...
You can also just switch the launcher to Microsoft and get Swift Key for better keyboard. That way, when you swipe left, you still get News Section on Home screen, Copilot, Calendars etc. Just make sure you select Settings > More Settings > Allow default launcher to be changed. Think there may be some Samsung Style launchers too.
When you say that wifi calls can be an issue ( can't remember exactly what you said) are you meeting VOIP calls such as WhatsApp ?
Just bought a china rom phone and what i don't like are those apps in chinese. The thing is the apps are part of the ui and some things are not translated to English, which is very annoying. Any solutions?
Thank you for the video. can I get the link to your Store? Do you ship to Africa?
I am currently using Galaxy S23 Ultra and the camera is trash for me. over sharpening all over which always ruins the details of the photos. I want to upgrade to the Vivo X100 ultra. I was planning to say the X100 pro but it seems the X 10O ultra is far superior. I want to buy from you, but only if you Ship to Africa. Give me the link to your store.
My next smartphone will be a Chinese phone. I am tired of Samsung skimping on hardware components. However, I want to wait to have at least seven years of Android updates. If not, I am not sure if it is an option. Maybe there is a good custom ROM?
I've used the Xiaomi 12S Ultra Chinese model. It worked 99% as in the network worked just fine in city centres here in Ireland. However, it was pretty annoying when on the train in countryside between cities or town centres. I believe Chinese Xiaomi models skip 1 network 4G band (B20) on most if not all models. Oppo and Honor though throw in all bands on all/most models I believe. Vivo skips this band as well except for the top of the line flagship (ultra) and the folds/flips. My current devices are global Xiaomi 14 Ultra and Samsung S24 Ultra. Ludicrous prices here in EU 😅... Love 14 Ultra more.❤
@@Agvd26-h9p I didn't have problems with the Chinese rom to clarify, other than what I mentioned, the network when I was away from the city or town centre here in Ireland. I don't use Android auto so no issue there for me. Everything else worked like global roms. The network only struggled as B20 is the most common band here but I still had connection.
Here's the problem with esim that I have. Right now I'm on ATT, but when I switch my sim card between my Chinese devices, ATT sends me a text saying this phone is compatible with their network. Now I know that it is, so I ignore that message. However with esim, they can control access to their network and if you have multiple phones, like I have switching out an esim to another phone can be a hassle vs just popping it out of one and placing it in another.
My vivo x fold 3 pro when recording 4k 60 stutters from the start and sometimes goes from 60 fps to under 60 for some reason, love this phone though, I was in charge of video and photos on my sister's baby shower and everyone was shocked at the quality, I was heavily thanked lol
For the last couple of months, I've been using the Chinese ROM on my Xiaomi K70. Regrettably, it's lacking in various areas, especially when it comes to notifications and the absence of quick share. I believe this is peculiar to Xiaomi and their worst software in the planet: Hyperos. I wish you honestly speak about that. However I hear that Oppo and Vivo are bettet
I've got a Chinese Redmi K60 Ultra and notifications are a problem also the quickshare is also another silly problem. I've kept my Note 10+ and use both phones and my Note 10+ gets all the notifications with zero issues.
Tonight I have to decide between my buying decision for s24 Ultra or the Vivo x100 Ultra !! Actually I was going for the find X7 Ultra black dual stitched leather one, but could not manage to region unlock that one😢😢😢 I am seriously confused between the trustworthy experience of one UI and its regular and stable security updates and the world class camera system of x100 ultra along with fun touch OS which is not so trustworthy as an Android skin 😢😢😢😢
I have the x100 Ultra - I just change the launcher to Microsoft, keyboard to Swift Key, and is all good.
@@elmhurstenglish5938 please tell me about something , are you receiving regular updates ?? Is the Android experience I mean the skin experience stable ?? Are there any laggings stuttering ??
@@Agvd26-h9peh??? I own the x100 Ultra
region unlock?? all my phones and all other import sites are all region unlocked mate
@@AverageDadOfficial do you deliver products to Italy ??
Hey AD, I could use your advice here. I want to try out my first foldable device and Im between the Vivo X3 fold regular and the Honor magic V2. Im in France and I could get the Vivo for 1077eur (12gb/256gb) from your web site or i can get right now the Honor for 1100 (16gb/512gb) directly from Honor France with warranty and global rom (due to the current summer sale they have). I dont have a car and never have used android auto. Having said that, which one would you pick? I'm worried about the resell value of a Chinese ROM device here in France, and I also like having the option of a stylus (even though the magic pen is not easy to get and it's pretty expensive)
x fold 3 pro
@@Agvd26-h9p lol I'm not sure if you are being sarcastic or not
@@AverageDadOfficial from your website, shipped to France that one is almost 1300eur. A bit out of the budget, also, in previous videos you mentioned how you think the regular 3 food is a better deal 😅
Looks like frank changed his user name lol
Thank you for the video, very helpful.
I had a few questions, i am looking to get a Realme GT6 Chinese ROM with Google Play, do you know if it will still have chinese stuff on it like the news feed and browser always in chinese? This is after removing the chinese apps manually.
Does Chinese ROMs get android and security updates in line with when they are released or does it happen a little later?
I also have an option to buy one with a Russia ROM, been told it works like normal here in the UK with OTA and NFC without any russian writing.
I have checked the bands for compatibility.
Thank you everyone ❤
"F you're annoying" 😂😂😂 I'm dead..
Think he meant Frank lol
What is the android auto dongle you showed/recommended? Do you have a link? Thank you
Hi. I think few times ago i saw VIVO X100 PRO GLOBAL VERSION in your website but no more available. Is there any reason?
Chinese brands are really demolishing samsung, apple and Google smartphones in camera performance fr 😂
Can you root any of the new Chinese foldables and put a custom ROM like linageos?
I am curious as to whether the Oppo Watch X works with Chinese roms? It runs wear OS so I’m guessing no but maybe a workout exists like for the Samsung watches?
I just saw trhe video and u say u cover the customs? I had to pay quite a some to get my phone from ADS...
Have I missed the software comparison video?
No
Any workaround to change icons and Launcher on MagicOS 8.0 for Honor Magic V2?
Ok question. What about Google Backup. I have a Vivo and there is no option to back up to Google. Does this mean when I get another phone. I won't be able to copy over apps and data from the Chinese room Vivo?
I also forgot i had to leave spectrum mobile which is really good and cheap. I ended up with Tmobile probably double what i was paying.
No Magic V3 videos anymore? 😢
of course!
I want to buy a realme gt neo 6 with Chinese ROM. Will it work okay in Romania? Can I get Google or use NFC pay?
I also heard that there are some Chinese apps that I can't uninstall...and more apps could cost me performance
Also for the oppo i get notification alerts and on the AOD but they never appear on the screen as they occur.
should I get a xiaomi pad with chinese rom ?
up to you... loads of choice out there
I am having issues with notifications and alarm apps. Any insights for Honor Magic V2?
What is the issue with Europe? "Private Sales" what does that mean?
Thanks AD. If anyone owns an Honor Magic V3: can you kindly post is Wi Fi calling works in the UK. Also, can you set up the phone using google back up? Thank you
Ok so im from USA and in the military on deployment in Poland right now. I have a phone service with Xfinity. I really want the honor magic v3. Will i be able to have service and change all the phone text english? I dont think google fi it is available for it.
Brilliant video Mike, those 💩 that made those comments can do one, big 👍 dad
Thanks 👍
By wifi calling, do you mean WhatsApp aswell?
Whatsapp works for me calling perfectly fine in UK on Vivo x100 Ultra.
@elmhurstenglish5938 thanks if it works on vivo then I'm assuming it works on honor too since I'm looking to buyba new honor magic 3v
no! whatsapp, facebook other apps is fine! it is specific to your dialler having a bad signal
What about Phone Link? Does it work 100 as it should?
Also Honor cannot login to the Honor connect. So cannot access my honor health features. Not complaining, if theres a way around please help me. Thank you
just got my vivoX100 ultra yesterday. Only thing i notice not working is the app shop i use the hell out of it to😂. its not a dealbreaker. Also i notice theres no swipe to text.
I have the x100 Ultra: install Swiftkey keyboard, and you can swipe to text. I'm assuming you have the Google playstore installed? Works fine.
Are you making the software video of the xiaomi mix fold 4?
Is hey google set an alarm working? Or setting up appointment through google assistant?
How can you get a banking app on a chinese rom
Any Canadian in the chat? How does the Chinese Rom work with you?
i have vivo x100 ultra, i have Netflix but when i screen mirror to my TV i only got the sound buy no picture, any advice please
I have a Vivo X Fold 3 Pro. I teach in China and spend summers in America. I cannot figure out how to change the language in the KzITS to English, and any widget apps I downloaded, don't work well consistently (regarding software). Do you have any recommendations?
opinion on meizu phones?
I use CURVE app on my Huawei mate 40pro with my phone without issues cause lack of gms in Huawei.
Hi! How were you able to download the CURVE app, is it the app he's talking about in the video where we can put our debit and credit cards in, and it uses NFC?
Does this details also work with the Xiaomi Mix Fold 3 ?!
For the vivo x fold 3 pro, does it support esim?
I tested Xiaomi 13 ultra with stock china rom and all worked ok except Android Auto. Than vith OPPO FLIP I have problem, to get the text massages sometimes. it is hit or miss 9 out of 10. So after 6 months I had to change. Xiaomi EU ROM rocks.
I brought a Chinese phone and 没有什么问题
I can use 'OK Google' without pressing any button. It just wakes the phone.
not a chinese ROM
@@AverageDadOfficial5 year old Huawei. Pity they changed or were forced to change
There are better "adapters" to use for android auto. If you have both carplay and AA look for carplay ai box with android. Uses AA from car as the adapter mimics the phone. Works perfectly.
Can you please recommend one?