Every PERK ranked WORST to BEST! (Payday 2)
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- Опубліковано 30 чер 2024
- Payday 2 Perk Decks from worst to best! What are the best perk decks in Payday 2... what are the worst perk decks in Payday 2?!
Let's take a look at them together and rank them from bottom to top! Let me know which perk deck you like the most and why!
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I still want that Every Civilian Ranked video
Top 1: Bobblehead bob
@@callabo4473 Nah Elvis in the casino. Or maybe the lovely heartbreaker Annie.
or the poor manager who always change jobs after everywhere he works, the place got robbed
Last place: The civilian outside of the map you cant kill after stealthing everything else.
Lol good idea
Welcome to PAYDAY 2 where drinking alcohol increases your health, reviving teammates by swearing, wearing sunglasses on a sunny day means death and your hard earned money is gone because offshore payday. 10/10
Yes!
Dont forget that dozers are eod blast suits slapped on people and cloakers with heavy armor (not really) have 1000hp and can down you
AZTechVideos wearing a beret can hide your face
@@paintlicker wearing a tiara can hide your face
These days I saw a steam review saying that the best part of payday is the realism :v
Criminal occupations: low tier
Brutes: mid tier
Drug and alcohol Addicts: *SSS TIER*
:)
Sometimes it do be like that
There's a reason why they supply soldiers with opioids and amphetamines IRL. Also, there's a ton of crossover between the three types of people you listed. 0/10 joke doesn't work. :^)
Are you implying that the internet is a drug?
@@HouseLyrander what ?
Guys, I'm at 1 hp lemme just teleport to the opposite side of the map with max yakuza, two-piece suit, and my speed increasing skills.
Sweet!
*Sniper shot* *Insert heisted of choice* IS DOWN!
_that one random cop behind a pillar_
This cloaker behind the van
@@iamacatperson7226 CHAINS IS IN A PICKLE
Any number larger than 1: *exists*
b33croft: Divine fecal matter.
Yessss!!!
Here's an idea: Jokers ranked worst to best, in terms of kind of enemy that is converted, like Shotgun Tan and Assault Rifle Tan.
Or just cops in general from docile to run ruiner.
Lol nice!
Top one
Bronco cops
Bottom rank
Starter cops that don’t have Broncos
Done
#1: ZEAL Marksman
#2: Bronco cop
#3: everything else
#1 for my is Russian Heavy Swat. Had one get 108 kills on death wish.
@@gabenplznerf1093 had a friend get 2 jokers on BP and they got 300 kills lol
I love how the Kingpin's perk deck skills are named after quotes from Tony Montana and how Tony says multiple iconic quotes when you're playing as/with him. This makes it the number one perk deck in my heart.
Yea it’s very cool
i got the crimewave collection for xbox 1 but didnt get tony or the deck or gun only the heist does anyone know why
@@squidward8125 scarface heist dlc and scarface character pack dlcs are separate purchases
@@squidward8125 scarface character pack was removed from all stores, you cannot get it on xbox if you didnt get it by october 1st
@@squidward8125 crimewave edition is also missing a lot of dlc so that could also be a possibility
I fell in love with Anarchist. It's a perk deck that fit my playstyle for Loud, rocking Shotgun and Berserker/Frenzy combos all day. I love that it provides variety in builds too. And using it on higher difficulties makes me feel like a knock off Rambo from India.
Until a Cloaker, Bulldozer or Sniper reminds me that I am American with their one shots. I need a medi- BULLSEYE
I love anarchist too
@@b33croft Cloakers are dangerous for any build and anarchist main weakness are snipers, dozers are fine
Frenzy and berserker are pointless on most anarchist builds..
try db ammo, works nice
I hate anarchist, the armour regens way too slowly to be useful...
'800 pound *Gorilla* '
*Shows Chains*
Mr muscle
Uh oh
@@JV-bm4dd stinky
@@IPursuePeppers-CTH poo
Shows chains because muscle is his perk deck homie. Can't tell if joking, troll or race baiting.
If Stoic isn't at least top 3 I will riot
Nice.
Nailed it!
Goteem
Stoic is mid tier in my opinion you have to take damage to use it well
@@bonnieshenton9426 that’s kind of the point... if you’re gonna take damage, might as well take healing from it, like, that’s just kinda how it works and besides, that’s how quite a few of the perks work
I kinda hate stoic ngl
Not sure how hard it would be but I would love to see every character’s base mask ranked
I could do that!
Fun fact, the regen from grinder stacks meaning you can achieve (3 seconds of) immortality if you use a flamethrower as a primary.
For literally the longest time I ran Crew Chief because I was new to the game and only recently started playin Rouge as your Dodge build video popped up in my recommended and have loved it since
Nice!
On behalf of everyone you heisted with: Thank you for running crew chief.
Crew chief is better than rogue though?
His safehouse isnt under attack its having a party
Haha it is!
WHAT'S THAT!? I CAN'T HEAR YOU OVER THE SOUND OF ME AND THE COPS SHOOTING AT EACH OTHER WHILE I PROTECT 3 BAGS OF CASH!
Safehouse Rave
1:52 Crook
2:36 Yakuza
3:16 Biker
3:49 -Shitman- Hitman
4:28 Tag Team
5:08 Gambler
5:42 Infiltrator
6:14 Maniac
6:47 Sociopath
7:28 Crew Chief
7:57 Ex-President
8:29 Burglar
9:04 Armorer
9:45 Grinder
10:17 Rogue
10:58 Muscle
11:26 Sicario
12:10 Hacker
12:46 Anarchist
13:28 Kingpin
14:21 Stoic
A little late but thanks for the work mate!
Got the game for free years ago but couldn't play it
Managed to just a few weeks ago cause new laptop and storage
Bought the ultimate edition to pay homage to Overkill
Didn't know jackshit
Saw the Kingpin perk deck
Liked it
Picked it.
Now I'm running around with a Dragon Fire Drum Mag Stakeout and swinging around a circular saw.
No
I do not know what I am doing.
Lol sounds like you’re having fun to me!
Don’t worry, that’s like, half of payday, doing stupid things and it working
sweet liquor eases the pain
As long as you hear "HE HAS A F--KING SAW" your doing it right
Like becoming an alcoholic running around shooting rpgs everywhere because bulletstorm
Could you rank every music track? Not literally every one, but the ones that you can choose at the beginning of a heist?
No no let him rank all of them.
@@z1u512 Nah, there would be no point, and he said he wouldn't rank things when there are too many.
Hmmm maybe!
Toe Nail :(
Do you guys know whats the name of that stealth song that its mostly a bass that goes
Da da dann, da da daaaaan dan, da da dann, dada pss *drums come in*
Normaly i dont watch these best ranked videos but im deeply invested into perks and making non viable weapons viable. So you peaked my intressed with this upload my friend
Thanks for watching mate
Even though Sociopath is low on the list, I just love it so much. and especially with jacket's voice lines I feel like I'm playing Krieg from Borderlands 2 again. Melee has always been the most visceral and satisfying for me.
Nice mate
I have a Sociopath build and it works best with my playstyle of prioritizing specials and thinning the herd of minor enemies. I use my guns to boost my melee damage and recover armor and I use melee to take down high risk specials like killdozers and heal to lift pressure on the team, especially for my dodge build teammates.
And if anyone asks, Mario's psa:melee got me into building Sociopath.
@@johnsomebody3627 same psa:melee is a good trailer to using sociopath
What I love in sociopath is the fact that I can get through hordes of enemies using platypus sniper rifle like a machine gun
We all know that the best perk deck is the custom perk deck Berseker
Never tried it, but yea!!!
@@b33croft hol up
Its a cheat so no
I agree, but I would take the true John Wick perk deck
@@polish2945 Not every mod is a cheat, this isn't GTA.
I want you to rank ever iron sight in payday 2
Seriously
Lol nice
Galant sss tier
@@deadaccount5730 ever played the famas?
JUST PUT ON THE SPECTACULAR SIGHT NERD
@@Apple-vr3mc no way mate,that -1 concealment hurt my build!
I recently started playing payday2 again and just got to infamy 1. And now I'm so interested in different builds, so this video will give me a better understanding of what's good. Thanks mate
You’re welcome mate! Have fun!
thanks to your livestream back then when you play death sentence using kingpin, you inspired me to make my own kingpin build for death sentence one down, it works very nicely. I still love my rogue build, made me a winner. And i love using grinder too.
Nice mate!
Didn't know I needed a dancing Jacket today but here we are.
Perfect!
I never thought I needed to see Dallas do the macarena, but now I can't live without it.
haha yep same
Just like to say through all the years I’ve played payday I watched your vids and I respect your craft if they make a payday3 your deserve your own personal character payday legend
Thanks my friend
i love the fact you still make videos about payday2 and read all the comments. keep up the good work!
Thanks my friend
The dancing crew on the side of the screen makes me loosing what Beecroft talking about lol
Haha sorry mate!
I always used grinder when I started to play the game and playing on Overkill. Now I’m playing on death wish with stoic and with a little more practice I’ll be able to play DS and soon OD
Nice mate! Keep grinding
I use rouge and it's long live than armor and health players
@@GoldMoonGuy nice, that's my favourite colour
DS is still masochistic c:
Yes FINALY!!! I waited so long. Now do Assault rifles.
It’s coming!
I waited for ever for this
@@b33croft If the AMCR isn't number one I swear to God
"The sh*tman, i mean the hitman"
This is why i love watching your vids
Thanks mate:)
By the creators of "Henry's C*ck", "sh*tman"
9:45
Wether you like the app or the perk heres grinder
Im both shaking my head in disapointment and laughing my ass of
3:49
What will be next? "Every MASK ranked WORST to BEST! (Payday 2)"? :--P
P.S Who is waiting for that video?
Every infamy mask from worst to best, all mask at once would took a long time.
Hmmm a lot of requests for masks
b33croft Agreed
@@bangganoerisputra9404 not if done as a mini-series which each category as an episode.
Top 1- every mask duke mask in dipped gold
I just noticed that this song perfectly matches the way the characters dance in your videos :D
Haha that’s not by chance
thanks for making all those build videos, that was helpful for me!
You’re welcome mate
Great video man these ranked videos are so good for new and old players
Thanks mate :)
Out of all the perk decks I've experimented with I love Sociopath, just running around and meleeing folks, regaining health and armor, plus with the chance to scare enemies when Maxed out, it is a good all rounder perk deck also
Love the video! And also thank you for introducing me to hacker, it is now my favourite deck to play with. Was so bored of using stoic 24/7
Also, how about ranking throwables? :)
Ooh that could be fun!
Im really diggin Jacket bustin moves in the intro. Great choice
I have already commented in this vid but I want to comment again to say I love your vids and love seeing payday 2 vids in 2020, still trying to get to infamy 5 so I can really try these builds but anyway keep up the amazing work man
Thanks my friend :)
Stoic is awesome, also used Sicario recently and it was quite refreshing. Ex President was extremely difficult for me on higher difficulties starting with Chaos. I played the Goat simulator heist on Chaos and beat it after nearly 3 hours of suffering. Crew boss did not really do anything interesting, although I am not so experienced with the right perk setups yet.
yea I agree matE!
Every weapon ranked. Maybe divide into categories like rifles, shotguns and snipers. Maybe also primary and secondary
Definitely want to do it this way mate
Gambler is one of my favorite decks, with a lot of heists (my crew plays overkill) with tanky set ups we don't usually need my doctor bags and ammo bags are for saw utilization when needed and when out of microgun or launcher ammo
Dude omg that "Holy Shit" soundbyte at the end sounded just like a friend of mine so you scared the shit out of me xD
Haha
I love playing Maniac on Mayhem/DW because the builds you end up coming out with truly embody Jimmy's spirit of railing several lines of pure coke trying to make an optimal build.
Case in point, currently running Beserker set with the suit and Crit built for an RPK.
Man I gotta be honest. My first ever normal build was a rogue build and I loved that build. I mostly only used that for loud. But then I saw your build videos and tried stoic. And know that I played so many hours of lmg stoic I can safely say that it's hard to switch back to rogue.
Yea I used rogue for years!
Great film mate, watched with pleasure
Thanks mate
Was not expecting Sicario to end up that high but I'm so happy it did. After all, Sangres is my main
Yea it’s a great deck and great character
Biker with AI is honestly kinda op just set in a corner and let them gun everyone down and profit
Didn’t work for me on death sentence :(
The health regen is pretty low, but I like how missing health or armour makes you get back more of the other one.
I think the real perk of it is the armour regen, but you don’t have control over when it comes back, so it’s a gamble.
Works with sentries though
@@b33croft some maps it really shines but bigger more open maps like hells island it doesnt really work
@@localcomradedimitri261 it does work on your shitty difficulties, but will never on DS. Maybe with cheating mods like better bots it works
Yakuza's speed, with the skill that increases speed with lower health, is stupid high even with the Combined TV. Better than you made it out to be.
Personally, I'd say the only truly "bad" one is Crook.
Nice
i thought it really depends on how much cover tho
Crook is actually really good, you just need to treat it as a Tank Deck with some Dodge as gravy instead of a pure Dodge Deck. With HBV and the right Skills, Crook can actually get 2 hits on your armor just like ICTV Armorer, trading the 2 sec invulnerability when your armor breaks for speed and some Dodge (and maybe crits if you're willing to invest the points).
Yakuza's speed is nice, but is much better suited for Stealth in my opinion.
This not kiryu approved
I have been waiting so long for this! Sorry I’m late :)
No worries! Thanks!
you're the best payday 2 ytber imo! love ur vids
Thanks my friend :)
Yay! You did it! Thank you! :DD
Yep!!!
Hitman is a feel good perk deck in my opinion.
Crew Chief is a favourite of mine because of how cool it is; buffing Stamina is a nice change of pace.
I don't do DSOD which is probably what shapes my opinion
Nice mate, yea some of these perks are fun on overkill diff
"I don't do DSOD"
*P u s s y*
@@b33croft crew chief is like number 6 in the meta lol, its so fucking op if u can not get copkiller teammates
CC makes DS feel easy imo
next up rank each heister's room/area in the safe house
Maybe!
@@b33croft if you do that's just showing off to console lol
@@fleyyn for console players
@@fleyyn Just understand that overkill somehow doesn't know how to develop on consoles. I mean the companies aren't helping overkill for some shit. It's the console companies fault at the end.
@@fleyyn mhm
Always using Final Flow and dancing animations lol, i quite started to like them.
Haha aweosme thanks mate
14:32 hot damn dude. It sounded like you were spotting bars
Haha hell yea
9:45 omg yes! this Perk Deck has always reminded me of Grindr lol, i love Grindr ;D
Haha yep
GAYYYY- wait that's the point
Great video!
Thanks mate :)
Thanks to you, sicario is my favourite dodge perk deck and anarchist is my favourite armour perk deck, you are the best!
Thanks mate!
Crook is really underrated IMO, if you have Frenzy aced aswell as armor skills with HBV you can take a heavy shot on DS, aswell as a nice 25-45% dodge.
Nice! Enjoy mate
Tbh i actually like the biker deck everytime your team gets a kill I can’t even remember i had low health it’s also pretty useful if your team is more offense then defense
it's fun on lower diffs for sure!
Nice video, thx for that 😁👍
Thank you!
I play extremely aggressively with the ex-presidents perk deck, even mid fight when armor breaks, that aced bullseye headshot instantly gives you back the stored health as well as that tiny bit of armor. Combined with that skill that gives you ammo back for smg, lmg and assault rifle headshots and the aced akimbo skill in the fugitive tree, I have managed some dicy situations with the akimbo 805's. Body expertise and armor pen makes them very deadly, as the aced akimbo skill and some others from my loud build, gives them 100 stability.
I kinda feel like trying some diffent perks on my drill repair build afther watching this
maybe hacker so i can repair in peace or sicario but i dont realy have much luck with that one most of time
My most used perk decks are normaly: kingpin, stoic and muscle because i too like panic
If i run dodge i run burglar on loud its so underated and if you have some jokers and crouch alot your almost inviable i run it with a crit repeater
Yea burglar is good loud
My perks :
1.Hacker (useful for stealth)
2.Yakuza (speed boost)
3.Burglar (fast for picklock, pager and body bag)
Nice!
Nice video mate!
Thanks mate
My favourite decks are definitely Stoic, Rogue and Burglar, because I prefer min-maxing over having fun, lol. Grinder is a nice change of pace though.
Definitely would like to see some weapon rankings. I see you're already working on it, I wanted to suggest just picking your favourite, let's say 3 weapons out of each category for a single video, but hey, if you wanna go all in with ranking all of the weapons, then I'm all for it! Favourite songs/masks could also make a decent video imo.
Also, 9:45 bruh
Nice :)
I think crook is really under rated especially if you play it as a dodge deck. With frenzy aced and the HBV you get 2 shot armor and 25 dodge so you actually have some survivabilty on dsod plus your armor comes back a bit faster. Will the dodge really matter on the HBV set up no not often but every now and again it can save you or your armor so you can take 4 shots before going down giving you a little longer to find cover or find a head shot for bulls eye regen,
I fully agree with this. Crook is only less viable on DS and still has a niche. There are a lot of other decks that are also way less viable on DS
My most favorite was grinder in the most op version xd
First was muscle, when had only death wish as the hardest difficulty this perk gived me a lot of advantage because a lot of players saw me like "uhhh you already losed hp..." but after 5 seconds they always liked to met their new best friend mr Clouker.
Second was broken grinder
When grinder doesn't heal anymore i changed perk to anarchist but this perk deck make me later in to potato because i couln't play without it because it was like we know good...
After few months i started using gambler because playing anarchist was a little bit to boring and i was kinda a potato AND i come back after some time because update with safes kinda broke my game on my potato old ass fuck pc but i have actually something better...
I spend a lot of time with this perk, kinda another of my favorites.
Another time i get bored so... New main perk... It was hitman but with akimbo grims like ez mode on mayhem it was
Later some ex-president but i don't like it that much
Armorer, used by me like 3 times "big meme armor for me"
Rogue was after another... Not my favorite only good thing was for me changing weapons but meh.
I started using some others perks but not too much love with them maybe some more with sicario because it is very funny perk, and some with crook on mayhem but others meh...
Btw i love watching your build ;)
Thanks mate :)
I started a new game on playstation with my friend recently and I'm absolutely loving stoic. I ran an akimbo build on my Xbox save and still do but I'm going to switch it over to stoic when I can because it's so fun and easy
Ex-President, in my opinion, is a new player's wet dream. It gives you all the wiggle room you want if you're solo-ing heists and being able to understand the mechanics of the game more. I see it as an all-rounder. When I first seen the description of it, was the first perk deck I went with and I never went back.
I used to use Hacker for the mini ECM to disable cameras for a while.
Yea that’s awesome
I find the sociopath build works best with dodge to enable it to hit crits with melee weapons
Nice mate
Ok last time i predicted worst to best perk decks, are weapons next??? I Know the re are to many but you did skills so.... still love your vids and Im glad I landed again on the channel:P
Thanks my friend
ik this is a rank list but the music and the dance really fit together and i just cant take my eyes off of the heisters dancing
Haha thanks mate
Watching Jacket dance was worth a subscribe. Jacket is my fav
Lol for sure mate! Thanks
The bottom 4 perk decks are some of my favourite perk decks lol. I get that they aren't great but I thought Hitman would be higher up, that thing carried me through Solo DS Gost Sim
Hey whatever you enjoy mate!
I honestly only used sicario for the whole Sangres loadout but DAMN it has got me out of sticky situations A LOT. Super reliable and I don’t think I’m switching anytime soon.
Hacker is personaly my favorite, you can disable pagers and camera's for short time, they regen, you can help your friend out of crappy situation being away from him and you can use it in loud with grenade launcher for some great heal
i like using sociopath with an LMG and bloodthirst aced, since the reload speed buff that you get after a melee kill stacks with itself, which means that you can reload your LMG in 2 seconds if you get enough melee kills
also, katana go brrr
Sweet nice work!
It's probably more Katana go whoosh, but whatever.
I don't know how to feel about a serious tier list video while watching heisters dance.
Haha it shakes it up a bit
How about a video on Mutators? Ranking would be based on how much they shake things up when you get bored of basic Payday 2, how customisable they are, and/or how fun/frustrating they can be.
Interesting.
I saw a build for Burglar on steam, in a guide called "Making all perk decks DSOD loud viable". Interestingly, it didn't take the dodge skills. I found this interesting, and decided to try it out... Turns out, the best defense is not dodge or armor, it is simply crouching.
Due to the bonus that enemies are less likely to target you when crouched and still, if a cop begins shooting at you, just crouch and he almost immediately will turn around and shoot your friend in the face.
It was hilariously fun to use.
Yea the less targeting chance is fun. I always take dodge skills too though because in the time that you do get targeted, then it’s cool to have a chance to dodge that shot, it’s almost like a second chance for the enemies to miss again
Grinder and Ex-Pres are my two big favorites, mostly because I found out that Sentry guns can trigger them.
lol
Yea so much fun!
Same also with maniac
I'm a bit late to this. But I've been rocking KingPin a whole lot lately. It's a better muscle deck with a built in meth injector. At least that's what it feels like when a dozer slaps you from no health to full.
Haha nice, yea so much fun
When if first tried stoic I had no idea how to use it and the constant ticking was annoying. I recently tried it again after hearing how op it was and have fell in love with it, I rarely ever get below 1/4 health
I'm late but amazing video b33croft
Thanks mate
My favorite Perkdeck's are Grinder, Anarchist, Muscle, Rogue, Kingpin, Stoic, Sicario, Hacker, Burglar, Ex-President, Maniac, Gambler, Sociopath, Hitman, and Biker.
Nice!
Take a skill rebalance mod, and the skills would be way much better. The maniac rebalance within it is 2x more effective and with the less stacks lost, it's very much more consistent.
Yea agree mate
@@b33croft Totally!
i really like biker, its pretty much grinder but it works with all armour sets and you get health regen from your teammates aswell.
Yea, rough to use on ds though, sadly
Thank you
It was very helpful
Thank you my friend
I usually always use crook on mayhem because if I use armor skills on it .It can have somewhat high armor and a decent dodge.
Yea in mayhem it’s awesome!
Crook is actually a pretty decent sidegrade to Armorer on DS, you just gotta run it as a Tank Deck with HBV instead of the usual Mayhem LBV build. Unfortunately, Decks like Stoic and Leech blow it and Armorer out of the water at this point
are you gonna continue updating the perk decks? i'm still waiting for that tag team, lmao
Lol yea mate, did yakuza last week
My favorite perk deck has always been sociopath mostly because it rewards you for being in the enemy’s face and I love shotguns and melee so it just fits with my style perfectly
Honestly Kingpin and Sicario carried me through my journey to my one down mask, I always thought Sicario sounded good but at lower difficulties when I was just starting dodge was always more underwhelming. As soon as I got to DSOD I fell in love with Sicario running Judge and M1 Garand. Stoic got me through several too but I found that alone Kingpin was better for objective rushing with LMG's
Yea for sure mate
Friendship ended with stoic
Now hacker is my best friend
Aweosme!
overkill Performance:
Crook is Decent for A Sudo jack of All trades build Allowing Dodge without sacrificing Too much Durability
Yakuza: I AM FUCKEN SPEEEEEEEEEEEEEDD
Biker: Kinda Sucks but has potential is buggy
Hitman: who uses this?
Tag team: Fuck the characters this is with
Gambler: yeah you’re a Thing
Infiltrator: havin 40% Damage reduction when Blasting 12 gauge is fun
Maniac: Yes This is FUCKEN FUN on OK
Sociopath: yeah Melee Meta
Crew Chief: a Good old college try at Jack of all trades but none of it is for ya
Ex President: this is Neat pretty Tanky
Burglar: Sneak meta
Armorer: Good old MAKIN ya Tungsten
Grinder: Dodge And Health being given to ya For murder
Rouge: Simply put Dodge
Muscle: FUCKEN TANK
Sicario: Armor By Dodge
Hacker: Hey That Damn SWAT VAN it’s now our FUCKEN ally
Anarchist: Grinder for Armor
Kingpin: Yeah have fun using this as it’s DLC is no longer available
Stoic: *SIPS BEER IN NAME OF FUCK THE FBI*
i used to run ex-presidents but i find the tag team is pretty good when i get it at the right time. I might switch over to Stoic though that looks like fun
stoic is tons of fun mate
Once I found out hacker provided amazing health regen I started using it on loud only problem is I didnt realize it was for dodge and I used it for tank build the thing is it works perfectly I could play on deathwish cook 25 bags of meth and not use a single healing equipment or get downed
Maniac really needs top get a buff
Making your Teamkates able to collect sracks as well would solve so much for this Peek deck
it doesnt Tell you in the description but there is actually a delay before you get the damage Absorption from your stacks
So you are not Just Entering the heist without a perk deck you also continue to Not have any perk deck benefits Up to two sec after hitting an enemie and after two more sec your stacks are Cut in half already
And you have to consider that maniac is one of the only perc Decks that dont Grant you ANY Others benefits to Stats beside its own mechanic
Making Others Party members able to collect Stacks for you would be the only way you dont immediately die when Peeking a Corner on DS
Definitely some buffs needed
I enjoy using the maniac perk deck for crime spree with a turret build cause they provide me with free damage absorption.