Amazon's Best Rooftop Tent VS Roofnest Falcon Pro -They LOOK the Same- We Compare Them Side by Side
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Amazon Clam Shell Pop Out RoofTop Tent VS Roofnest Falcon Pro Buying Guide - Topoak Overland Tent
This Topoak Rooftop tent sold on Amazon really surprised me. We took it on a 500 mile overland trip in the rain, sleet and even in the heat and we were impressed. It held up well, the mattress was surprisingly comfortable. But the big question was how does it compare to the Roofnest Falcon Pro... a tent that at face value almost looks identical even though it is more than double the price. We compare them side-by-side to the last detail. Ultimately, we just wanted to test it enough and see if it was a worthy submission for our Budget Overlanding Series where we explore less expensive alternatives to popular off-road and 4x4 gear.
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What do you guys think of this video format? This was a TON of work and coordination... was it helpful and did it answer your questions?
Comparison videos are always appreciated especially with the big difference in cost. Would have liked more close up shots of the Roof nest construction, etc. like those shown for topoak. But all the info was great. Biggest complaint was the constant music behind all the narration, found it distracting at times. And the random pop up merch ad (hats) while continuing speaking on tent was odd/out of place.
Very helpful and thorough as are all of your videos. Yours is my go to channel for everything off-road. Keep up the great work and thank you.
This was great
I liked the conversation you guys had at the end the most, wish y’all had talked more about your experiences getting into overlanding and gear you’ve tried
Great video, kind of wanted your pal to go through the topoak and contrast w his rig, but that could have been redundant. I just wanted more of a roofnests owners opinion of the topoak.
I am already glad to see how Topoak tent company took good care of you... It speaks volumes and shows they are a solid company...
I really appreciate this video for comparison. I’m sick to death of the price gouging of anything branded overlanding. It’s really difficult to believe these tents actually need to cost this much. Especially since you explained that many of these companies build in China and then rebrand the product. Side note: that intrepid looks AMAzing but for $4000 it can sit in a warehouse forever.
Anybody innovating… I understand why it is expensive out of the gate… but after 2,3 even 5 years… both scale and knowledge should bring the price down…
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I now have an Intrepid tent, and it's a very very good tent. It's almost in it's own category. It's not a budget tent, it's in the same price range as the Roofnest..but it gives you almost 40% more room in the same footprint. We'll see if companies like Topoak copy the design and push the price lower over time.
I actually designed the Faolcon Pro. You did a fair evaluation for the most part. When took in consideration of the extra mfg cost of the roof being stamped, the benefits of that go far beyond being able to store more stuff in it. Long-term durability, water proofness, and high quality design were leading decision factors.
That being said your market analysis was spot on. Thanks
Would love to chat on the phone with you and Will sometime on possible future collaboration videos. I still design RTT'S and also work closely with Kenda Tire. They have express an interest in both your and Will's videos. You both do great work. Thanks
@bryanoliveira2201 , does the roof shape measurably affect fuel efficiency as compared to the flat top of the Top Oak?
Please put more sky lights in future RTT's
Sincerely.
Cheers mate
The most remarkable think is you have a 70 series that is left hand drive.
Ha 😂…. Yeah.. it’s from Oman… so left hand drive but comes standard with no heat… so… I’m in the market for a heater 🤷♂️
Right!!! That was my first thought
@@OutdoorAutomake sure that you have a thermostat as well, “tropicalisation” normally include its removal
Ok so I'm sure that the other guest in the video is a great guy, but his attitude about the cheaper tent is exactly why so many people stay away from getting into this adventure. His take was basically "you should only get this tent if you are new because if your into adventuring and are a real pro like me, then you will spend a lot of money on this super expensive tent because it has a brand name that your can show off on your nice car with your nice roof rack." and it is that attitude that needs to be understood and stopped. Who cares what you show up to camp in, who cares that you roll around in the cheap tent. the fact that we have put so much emphasis on the brand of something and caring about being a part of a specific group that will only accept you if you use the big brands, I urge that to stop. Once again, I'm sure he is a great guy and if i went camping with him in my budget gear, he would not treat me any different, but the mindset that you need the expensive one just to have the name is wrong.
My first tent was a Tepui. I’ll never forget meeting Evan outside his apartment in Santa Cruz when he first started and they kept their inventory in a storage unit. They had great customer service and it was cool seeing them grow. After they sold to Yakima I just don’t care anymore. I ended up selling my RTT and annex for 300 more than I paid for everything new. I think my next one will either be a cheaper hardshell like this one or get rid of my Snugtop for a GFC or Topo Topper. So many options these days!
Oh wow that is Cool... Tepui way back then... wow... they were innovators. So far ahead of the curve. PRetty crazy what an industry it has become.
I think his tent matches his shirt. It’s all about the aesthetic not the practically or value. It’s about a price point and a status symbol for his heep.
@thebiggestbigal I have an original Tepui pre Thule buyout and it’s my first RTT. Got it on FB market for $600 only used a few times and the guy even threw in the annex for free. I purchased it 2020 have used it maybe 6-8 times. Love that thing. Solidly built. The only mod I made was purchasing a thicker mattress that still manages to fit when I close it up. 4K+ RTT that’s insanity.
Thanks so much for taking the time and effort in this video. I’ve been doing a TON of research for my first tent for my son and I for my Bronco and this looks like the one.
I did another video with 20 tents reviewed in 20 min that might help as well - ua-cam.com/video/FEJAs1pRPCM/v-deo.html but the Topoak is a crazy good value - Apparently enough people bought them from my video they sent me a discount code... so if you do buy one use the code to save more - Topoak Roof Top Tent - Amazons Best Tent deal - amzn.to/3SMVw1C - Use Code OUTDRAUTO for extra discount
Great video. Good comparison. Its nice to see what some of the differences are. I'm typically a buy once cry once sorta guy but its getting harder to see a reason to justify spending that much more money on some of these name brands.
I am totally a buy once cry once person… but it is crazy the affect commoditization has on popular trends over time. Competition is heating up.
Another great comparison breakdown Nate!
Thanks Gary 🙏
Good content review bro. I daily my 4R but planning to go outdoors on the weekends. Probably this will do price wise, sturdiness too. Thanks.
So far seems like a killer tent for the price.
so helpful. thank you so much
Awesome, glad it was helpful.
Hi, I purchased the Falcon Pro 2 years ago, and I have no regrets or complaints.. When it arrived, there was no damage, the paint seems to be in good condition, the cargo racks are fine. I will confirm the stainless-steel nuts do get some rust, but I really don't concern myself with this, small potatoes in my opinion.
Hey man, Marine Corps vet here. I'm in Boise and looking to go off grid more. I would love to pick your brain about what works, what doesn't. I've got a 2020 Tacoma Off Road so I lose out quite a bit on cargo capacity. I've been trying to research bed rack kits, RTTs and ways to secure stuff in the bed. Originally was looking at Decked and the cost doesn't so much bother as does the 200 pound weight of it so I'm opting for a Retrax system with Kuat bed rack. Again, gotta make me gear as lightweight as possible due to the reduced cargo capacity. RTT is the one area I'm having difficulty. Was looking at iKamper and Roof Nest. That said, more money doesnt always equal better quality. I plan to go off grid damn ear almost every weekend so I meed something that can hold up to a lot of use. Any thoughts? Like I said, if you ever wanna sync up at Payette Brewery man, I'll buy ya some beers for your thoughts. LOL
I’m out filming for a couple days… but I have a few ideas… I’ll hit you back when I get done with this shoot.
That was good. Really interesting and it does make you think twice about what you actually get with a named brand.
I have the CVT Mt Hood and I’m happy with it but I think I would have saved a ton of $ and bought this Amazon version if it was available back then (about 18 months ago). Yes, it’s not the same quality but it’s 80% (or more) there and SO much cheaper!
My Roofnest Falcon Pro looks like absolute garbage after about a year and a half. "Stainless steel" hardware rusted (and I live in Colorado!), paint on the top completely turned into powder and flaked off, and the seam tape is peeling off in numerous sections. On top of that it initially took them sending me 3 replacement center bars before I got one that wasn't broken. I replaced the tent with a really cool Oru Designs truck camper, but I have a lot of work to do in order to restore the Roofnest before I can even sell it. I don't think Roofnest is worth their premium price at all. Good luck Will! 🙏
Sidenote regarding your Roofnest center bar comments. You do get more flapping in the wind, but the end of the bar tends to also walk sideways in the wind. In decent winds, it will eventually get loose, come off the bar, and smash you in the face. I had to put hose clamps on the U bar on either side of the center bar to prevent this from happening. It almost knocked my teeth out once when i was sleeping. Make sure to tell Will about the hose clamps! Having the bars on the side is a way better design.
Thanks so much for the details... I love hearing from people that have run a product for a while. Lots of good advice in here. I will make sure WIll gets the details.
Great vid. I have the Falcon 2 and love it. Located in Boise, where in Idaho are you?
Meridian, and Garden Valley… mostly
I have the condor xl on my gladiator and its good. However i found Ironman 4x4 and purchased a clamshell on their site for our trailer, for almost half of what the roofnest cost! i was upset at myself for buying the roofnest. I WISH i would have found ironman 4x4 sooner, or even this amazon one. I could have definitely used a couple thousand dollars more on other gear. Great vid btw, subbed.
Thanks for watching and subbing - I will have to check out Ironman 4x4's tents... I didn't realize they were doing RTT.
Ironman USA has great sales and even better customer service. I have quite a few of their products on my GX470. I have the Nomad rtt and like it, but looking for a bit more room when crawling in and out of. These Amazon rtt’ dare very appealing to me to save the $$$ and build quality seems damn close across the board.
Thanks for the review. Sub’d!
@@californiabrewreviewsdotco8269 they Ironman have been showing up all over the place in my feeds… I would love to work with them… everyone always has good things to say.
Great video!! I would love to know how tall your friends jeep is with his tent on it closed!
Thank you, thank you, thank you!
1:37 when I ordered my rtt the box came standing on a half pallet. The box also had foam and spacers in it. I had to be in person when the truck got there and the trucker put it in my garage with a forklift. Zero damage.
Tuff stuff alpha 2
Sweet.... iKamper delivers upright like that to.... somehow I still got a damaged tent... 🤷♂️ I'm Cursed.
We had great shipping from alpha as well. Unfortunately we have had two of the toppers crack where they put in rivets. Their customer support has been awesome and the tent is good. We now have an alucab 3r and I feel it's cramped. It's really well built, suoer dark inside etc.
I’m also in Idaho! And just bought the Falcon 2.0 doop off of Amazon for $1600
👋 always nice to meet fellow Idahoans.
My roofnest condor xl was terrible in my opinion. The mattress chased me out after an hour and I slept in my truck. Fit and finish sucked with frayed stitching and the tent material bunching up at the hinge points and not fitting well around the outer flipped out platform. The outer abs shell had deformation/warping and didn’t close well over the lower half. I sold that pile in 2 weeks. I showed the buyers why I didn’t like it and they thought I was nuts and drive off happily. Oh and roofnest customer service, not great, you opened the box buddy it’s yours now, is the response I got to the issues. I wanted to buy local and my wife and I drank the advertising coolaid. No more. I’ll get the knock off brand and make simple mods to fix any condensation issues. Either way every major tent brand is going to be forced to lower prices and add quality to their products and service and shipping policies to compete and that’s great for the industry.
I had very similar issues with my Roofnest Sandpiper… hinges fell apart and the shell did not hold up to UV rays… I agree with you that the new pressure coming from cheaper tents with relatively similar to even good quality is good for the market… definitely good for the consumer.
I’m getting the condor 2 . What did you replace yours with?
Love it! I think this sold me on this tent 😅
Love the Landcruiser man... I'm in Utah and have an Fj62 as my main offroader/ long range tourer
I really like the the 62's.... I think I pretty much just like all Land Cruisers. This Troopy has been really fun for me, it makes me travel at a different pace then the Tundra and I find myself absorbing a lot more of the scenery.
Exactly! I have a 100 series as well, but with the 62, windows rolled down, you're soaking the nature so much more. Whole different experience@@OutdoorAuto
@@Gerbyq I’m actually working on a video to try and capture this… probably be out sometime in the next month. It’s a hard thing to capture in film. Especially filming by myself.
great video and information.
Awesome glad it was helpful. Thanks for watching.
Great video. Will the TopOak mount easily to a 3/4 Prinsu rack on a 5th gen 4 runner? If so, do I need to get a special mount? I also have a OVS 180 awning I mounted to the prinsu using their mounting brackets. Will these work with this tent? They use 1 1/2 in carriage bolts. I may need special spacer mounts between the rack and tent? Or maybe I can remove the awning mounts and connect directly to the tent? Thanks.
Really looking into getting one of these amazon special tents for my Cherokee
I’d do the pre order… they have another large shipment coming in… but their last one sold out in less than a week… I think this video kinda made the tent a bit discovered.
@@OutdoorAuto Not surprised it made it popular, I'll look at the pre-order
Hi @outdoor auto great comparison. Not new to overlanding but new to rooftop tents. One question I have about the cheap and the expensive ones alike is the windows. Do they only have a mosquito net or also a transparent window? Would be nice to have a way to look out in nights that aren’t super cold but to cold for having only a net
70 series troopy in the US???!!! Thats awesome
Took a while to find a clean one... that was Left hand drive... still working on it and building it out... but we are really enjoying... really just did its first big shakedown trip last week.
I have a tough stuff alpha currently which i like and its very large BUT its a lot of work to open and deploy the tension rods in the rain fly/3 openings. Also it takes a good amount of tucking of fabric (even using the elastic band) and adjusting to close.
My question is this....do you think these modified wedges would give me enough length to side / back sleep without touching toes on the ceiling? I am 6'4" tall 13 shoes.
Since it has no tension rods in the rain fly it looks like it would set up and tear down very quickly.
How could I mod this to get square panels on base like the GFC? Trying to get shell & rtt for under $7k.
Ooooh… I have never tried to deconstruct one… I guessed the hard part isn’t removing the floor… it would be how to mount it…
The biggest issue I see with these tents is the lack of awning or coverage over the entrance, so getting in and out in the rain is gonna suck.
They have the cover now 😊
@darkassassin1987 do you have the link where I can see the cover?
I’m definitely in that “dad with a family” group you talked about. Would you recommend an XL Smitty or a wedge tent for someone with a Tundra and one kid soon to be more? I feel like the Smitty XL looks a lot bigger and that’s the biggest factor for me, but not sure if there’s trade-offs I’m not considering…
Oh man... it is so hard for me to recommend a Soft top tent cause they take so long to pack up. It is truly a two Adult job and can be pretty frustrating.... especially if it is Rainy or windy. But... on the other hand they are some of the largest tents around. My wife and I have always stayed in the RTT and then the kids slept in the truck bed... So I have never needed a bigger tent than a 2.5 person.... two adults and a Baby.
That’s a really good point I hadn’t considered before, having kids sleep in the truck bed…. I’ll have to run that by the wife 😂 Thanks
As a dad, it’s very hard for me to close the tent myself. I don’t usually have help as my wife is looking after our kid but found some tricks to putting the cover on. Smitty overlander.
Does the Topoak come with brackets to fit round tube cross bars like my Gobi Stealth rack has?
The brackets have Channels that are squared off… I used ones like that on a round rack… but it is kind of hit and how tight you can get them… sometimes you have to get creative.
I’ve been looking at these Amazon one’s vs the Inspired Overland models. This one seems to be in the lead with the features and pricing
I've checked Inspired Overland. It's just a simple box. No rails for accessories. And I am not a fan with fiber glass....Dangerous material.
I had the IO tent, very basic but superlight.
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But the Insipired is made of fiberglass, which is completely different from aluminum. You can google it to see what kind of harm coming into contact with fiberglass can do to a person.
I wish these amazon tents came with wider Queen+ beds too in clamshell wedge format. Sure that would mean a 70" external measurement, but its fine for full size SUVs/Trucks
I just got one I am testing that is bigger... i'll get a video out on it soon... first I gotta make sure it is good.
@@OutdoorAuto Thanks. Waiting for that one! Right now the largest wedge tents are only 60" wide
With the roof fabric collecting moisture, is it removable to allow it to dry out so it doesn't mold?
What most of us do is just open the doors for like 10 - 20 min and it dries out. You can take the fabric out but that would be a lot of work.
What I would do, I’d take my Diesel Heater and run it dry
Im close to pulling the trigger on one of these but im worried it wont be roomy enough for two bigger people. Im 5'10 300 lbs. Weird question but do you think i could meet up with you sometime around town and check your tent out in person? Im in nampa but could meet you anywhere. Thanks!
Good morning. I'm liking the RTT, but I am really liking the LC. I have a 95 FZJ80. can you please let me know the specs on your LC. Nice setup
It has the same motor as the 80’s - 4.5L straight 6 and a 5 speed manual.
@OutdoorAuto is it a 70? Troop carrier? I didn't think that these were a North American rig.
I'd love to know how and where you got that. Don't see many left hand drive ones.
Does it come with shoe bags?
Great video man. Does the Topoak let you store sleeping bags up there when closed?
I left two summer weight bags and two pillows up there and it worked fine.... my 0 degree bags I am not sure.
Also FYI... looks like this video sold them out of tents... I reached out and they said they have a new shipment coming that can get tents out by Oct 20th.... this is the link for those tents if you actually want to get one.... geni.us/bVPRMPP
Great video. The Topoak is is not available until October now. The Autofield looks the same but I am not seeing any buyers for it yet. Would love to know your thoughts on that one or if there is another you pefer. Thanks!
Yeah, apparently the sold out of 40 units from this video 😳... they have a PreOrder for the next batch and I think people are lining up for those - this is the link for the Pre order - geni.us/bVPRMPP - The autofield does look similar... but unlike the Topoak, I have never tested that one so I can't weigh in much there. I have watched the stock number on those drop quite a bit... so somebody is ordering them... hopefully some new reviews will show up.
So strange, I got the October batch from Topoak and looks like they sent me a different version (maybe had to lean on another factory for help?)
Skylight is a different orientation, pockets on the ceiling are different, no included bolt-on handle, and a matte finish all around the outside shell. (Not the rubberized material yours has)
Also, the support arms for the extension now have a plastic C-clamp that they snap into, no Velcro. So some improvements perhaps?
Does condesation run down the roofing and make your feet wet like some reviewers say?
Here’s a consideration I’m not sure I saw addressed anywhere… on the topoak, is the bug net outside or inside of the waterproof zipped walls? Always have thought bug net outside makes most sense so you don’t have to open it completely, allowing bugs in, to have just the mesh. But have seen it backwards from that on many options out there.
The bug net is the outside layer
New Subscriber here and I found your video to be very helpful. I got excited to buy the Topoak from Amazon. However they are "not available". Did this company change names (Bamacar, Naturenest) or get bought out? Any info on how to pursue this tent would be helpful because it checks all my boxes. Hard shell with rack for kayak, extra room created by overhanging triangle volume, etc, etc. Thank you
where did you get LC 79 series ?
It’s from Oman… I used to drive them a lot when I worked in global health in Africa and Haiti… so I finally was able to hunt one down.
It was actually from Oman... I used to drive them a lot when I worked on Global Health contracts and drove these an Prados a lot across Africa and Haiti... finally had an opportunity to grab one and went for it.
You can also get the falcon pro for $2500 brand new via open box fairly regularly. Roofnest also does scratch and dent for ~40-50% off. The raised stamped lid to allow more storage inside is a good advantage for me that most other wedge tents don’t have.
The extra room is definitely a good thing... Comparing them side by side... it is worth noting that it is an extremely small amount of actual extra room.
Open box deals sound awesome... is that on their site usually or an in store thing?
@@OutdoorAutodirect on their site. Open box carries the same warranty as new too, don’t think scratch and dent does.
Got any coupon codes for this Topoak tent??
Amazon only has 1 left! Selling fast!!
At 29:32 in the video is that a wet spot in the corner near the pillow after the rain stopped?
Im 6'4 is this the tent for me? You mentioned you too were 6'4 so appreciate your opinion. This is a little longer than most other clamshells? Do you have any affiliation w topoak? Thanks sir, sorry for all the questions.
I am 6'4" and I sleep in it comfortably. No affiliation with Topoak, just tested their tent and gave them feedback to improve their listing and product. I do this with all the products I test especially if I am going to recommend it. I am a member of Amazons Affiliate program so if anybody uses one of my links to an Amazon product and buys it I "can" get paid commission from Amazon.... I don't actually know if this tent pays commission... so far I can tell you I have made no money off this tent.
@@OutdoorAutothank you very much I really enjoyed your video. Last question do you know if this company sells replacement canvas? I would like to have an extra canvas that would give me a peace of mind in case the original gets moldy or something
@@connorkelley5503 that is a great idea… I would email them and ask… the support email is support@topoakoverland.com
Thanks for fielding my questions will keep watching your channel
Hi, this is very similar to the Naturnest Rooftop Tent Hard Shell on Amazon. Is this better?
I think they are very similar except that the Topoak has the additional room from the pop out section. The Nature nest is a standard wedge.
The tent I've got features a practical triple-layer design. The innermost layer seems to be Oxford fabric, which keeps the rain out when I zip everything up. The second layer is a mesh screen, and the outermost layer is transparent and very clear, allowing me to see outside. I camped out in this tent for three days, and in the last day, we had a heavy rain. Despite that, I was able to lie inside and watch the rain, which was quite enjoyable. So even on cool nights that aren't super cold, I can still enjoy the view of the outdoors without worrying about getting chilly with just a net. Hope this info helps you!
I'd recommend his and hers ladders, to avoid late night bathroom crawl overs...
Do uou still have the coupon code?
The tent has not been available on Amazon for sometime as well as the awning
They actually have an updated model coming soon… they took the feedback and added a few things… looks like March some time… I’m excited to see what they changed since it was already so good.
What does "wait what" mean???
Just wait till the roofnest shell cracks and you try to get them to do anything about it.
I have a $4000 custom mattress at home
I have a $700 Overland Vehicle Systems TMBK3
The best sleep I ever get is in my tent
Dang… I need to try out that mattress
@@OutdoorAuto I think it is just a regular RTT mattress. I noticed everyone kinda rags on RTT mattresses but I never really understood why. Although I do like firm mattresses. The firmness is what made my home mattress so expensive
Its either topoak or naturenest rtt. Man hard to pick
The Topoak extra room is pretty nice.
It depends on you, satisfying your own needs is the first priority. But I find Topoak's extra headroom and skylight quite appealing, especially for someone tall like me.
So the roofnest is basically for people that want to pay much more for the brand. Great, I’m not new to this and can afford whatever but the budget one is what I’d get.
Hey brother can I buy the bad tent from you, my budget is very limited but if you can work with me I would for ever be in appreciation with you, I will soon take of from NY to the panamerican highway
Oh man, I actually am running the "bad" tent on the Land Cruiser. I hooked up a buddy with the 2nd tent. I have a pretty large community in Idaho over at the shop that tend to jump on any extra gear I end up with.
Topoak Tent is BACK IN STOCK... Apparently they sold out because of this video, but they reached out and let me know they have a bunch more in the warehouse - ⛺ Topoak Budget Overland Wedge PopOut Tent - geni.us/59bS9y8
that link is for the awning
So... you selling that damaged tent?
Ha… I am getting asked this a lot… I actually have a pretty big off-road community up here in Idaho and they pick through my stuff pretty quick. I actually kept the damaged on on the Troopy. The new one went to a friend.
@@OutdoorAuto
I'm in Idaho too. I just did an off-road/camping trip last week.
We camped along Eight Mile Creek off the Yankee Fork. The next day we drove the Washington Basin trail then camped at Alturas Lake.
I think I caught the bug. Haha
Good luck getting one.
People reselling for $8k
Reselling what for $8k ?
😂😂😂 he literally looks like he lives in a “better “ zip code than you 😂😂😂
That’s not that hard to pull off 😂
Roofnest just isnt good enough compared to what the alternatives are
these are now listed at 2500$
thats not from the manufacturer... that is just someone that bought one and relisted it on Amazon... I reached out to Topoak and they said they have more coming in stock on the 24th of Nov.
They are back in stock for 1299 + shipping geni.us/59bS9y8
Let ignore the fact it has a 3 star rating on Amazon
I read all 7 of the reviews... the worst were commenting about the fact it had no user manual ... which has been addressed... did you read the reviews???
I just watched an infomercial.
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Imo no tent should ever be cost 4k, nor you should spend 4k on any tents to begin with,
it looks like a lot of people agree with you... the $1600 tent in this video sold out only 3 days after this video and they had quite a bit of stock.... 🤷♂️
can you sell me the damaged one
Sorry bud… I have a lot of overland friends… the extra tent got picked up by one ☝️ f them almost immediately… I actually kept the damaged one for the Troopy.
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the first one is a aliexpress $600 tent....
I don’t doubt that…. Most these tents are all from China. Hard part is a place to buy them where you get them in a timely manner and actually have support and a warranty … Ali is tough for all of that stuff… doesn’t have the guarantees that Amazon does.
I’m a cheap bastard. I know what I’m gonna pick.
Lets face it, $4k was never an acceptable price point for any tent and that's why the competition healthy. I can put a new engine in my jeep for that kind of $ so its hard to accept it legitimately costs thay much to make a tent.
I agree... when stuff is new and supply chains are getting setup... stuff costs that much for retooling and all kinds of overhead... but the second it is being manufactured in mass it should come down... a lot.
For long haul trips, I would be useful to know if the falcon pro’s shaped top improves fuel efficiency over the flat top of the TopOak. For the illusion of safety and being aware of my environment, as a female solo camper, I chose the TopOak (currently shipping) over the Falcon because I don’t want the blackout inner coating. Plus I can use the almost 2k I didn’t spend on the tent for a bed rack. And I went with the flat topped TopOak for the potential to adhere solar panels versus using additional rack…Both of y’all’s videos were super helpful. Thanks
Anything over $1500 is overpriced. It is just a tent ⛺️
If you're worried about saving 20 seconds when you are camping, you're doing it wrong
peccato che anche questa tenda come tutte le altre è costruita in China! ho visitato personalmente entrambe le fabbriche di entrambe le tende messe a confronto. Ci sono costruttori performanti e non performanti. Ma a volte quelli performanti hanno una struttura dove l'operaio viene sfruttato.. Non pensate che dietro alla qualità ci siano le famiglie felici che fanno i pinknik nei campi di fiori colorati.
Buy them directly from China if you can read Chinese.
Probably can on Ali express.... but it was pretty nice to deal with a company with English support when that first tent showed up damaged from shipping. It took one email in english and the whole thing was resolved.... at $1600 it was a pretty solid deal as is.
I would split them as the Roofnest used for more of a serious or full time camper
Whereas the Amazon model is for the occasional, lighter use
Four grand for a tent? No thanks
I think the days of $4000 tents are numbered…
I was thinking the same thing but for the $1600 priced one 😮😮😮.
Make no mistake... the Amazon brand is paying him for this video
Can you please let me know where they are sending the check? Cause I haven't got it yet 😂
The amazon rooftop tent is no longer
damn... wonder if it sold out. Let me check.
One guy buys labels. One guy, like me buys sensibility.
Pragmatism is a rare quality these days...
They are the same. Made n china
Price wise they are different
Dude. This is bullshit. I can’t find this tent for that price
did you check their website... its not that hard...topoakoverland.com/products/galaxy1-0 - it shows that it is sold out and back in stock later this week... its pretty easy to tell people the are full of shit.... its even easier to do a simple google search....