I bought the leather backed suspenders you 1st reviewed from 911 gear to replace my K&W suspenders I bought 4 years ago. I like how they have nice wide cushion for the shoulders and you can tell they are quality. They fit perfect under my Blauer uniform vest carrier for a nice clean look. Thanks for your videos!
@@D3vice1 thank you very much, I am beginning to have sciatic nerve issues and lower back pain so I'd really rather take care of that sooner rather than later.
The experience of the designer as a CO makes a difference. The fashion industry that typically designs clothing is so anti-police that they refuse to help law enforcement with clothing and accessory designs. Natick Soldier Systems Center (NSSC) used to be much more effective to help design clothing and accessories for the military, but NSSC has lost their effectiveness. NSSC ain't what it used to be. The hate I got at school when designing equipment for law enforcement was pretty heavy. The fashion students did not want to cooperate with law enforcement, because they got arrested too many times for drugs and prostitution. It takes courage to design stuff for law enforcement, and it also takes experience. The good thing is that a CO with good information from the inside and some motivation and guts can make products that help law enforcement. Before NSSC went soft there were some really good things we learned about how to make clothing for the military and LE customers. These detailed reviews of equipment are really awesome. I smile when I see how officers do appreciate the details that make a difference.
+Ryan Scott you have no idea how much we appreciate when someone takes the time to make a peace of kit that actually does the job it is supposed to do instead of making it to tick boxes.
My first engineering boss taught me some lessons on designing clothing the proper way. He worked to design the flight suits for the military aviators and bras for Victoria's Secret, back when VS still sold quality products. There is a true science to designing clothing, accessories, and load bearing equipment the proper way to avoid the discomfort of chafing, bruising, blisters, overheating/overcooling, moisture removal, etc. Courtaulds was vertically integrated, producing the chemicals, fibers, threads, fabrics, and all the way to some pretty advanced clothing designs. NSSC used to do a good job. Courtaulds also used to do a good job, but some bad CEOs destroyed the company and the parent company Sara Lee (the pastry company). Courtaulds really did care about members of the military and law enforcement. Many of the specialized fibers and fabrics were developed for the military and LE. I really miss those days of working at Courtaulds, once a great company. The engineers that designed the clothing really cared about doing a good job. A little effort up front really made a difference, and we knew that people did appreciate that. The most I do right now is modify everyday clothing for super concealed carry for executives and undercover officers. The technology of surveillance with arrayed microphones and spread spectrum broadcasting is leaps and bounds better than the bugged microphones of the 80's and 90's. Microphones and cameras can be hidden anywhere, even inside fabrics.
depending on where you live and if your a civilian you can carry some of this stuff all the time. it saved my life. last week a cop moved in next door and sw stole his car when he went to get it back they jumped him.
Hey bro I've only been a sub for a few months now and I am really interested to get a perspective on being a short officer. I am also from Chicago and wanted to apply to the state police academy but I was afraid that 5'8 would be too short. How are u treated by other officers and the public when going out to a call and how do you handle yourself during a fight? I would really appreciated if you could respond and keep up the great videos!
+coolguy3100 I would kill to be 5'08". But, mainly for personal reasons. When I was new it was an issue with being taken seriously. Five years in it was just a joke. Eleven years in it is no longer and issue at all. Several hundred fights later and the people I work with only bring it up when we are shit talking, usually after I laugh at them for bumping their head going down a steep staircase, searching and attic, or exiting the back of a bearcat. The public can sometimes be ignorant about it but, the people who do that will find something to be ignorant about no matter what. Follow your dreams brother! The only reason to worry about it is as an excuse to fail. Don't give yourself the excuse.
5 foot two dude you’re an inch shorter than me and I’m almost 18 that raises my fucking hopes so high in the fact that I hope to be able to confidently and competently take control of situations and fuck shit up if need be you’re literally my model because I’m not getting much taller than this, my father is basically an umpa loompa, and honestly short stocky beats tall lanky any days I mean fuck man, you built like a tank...
free field training I know it's hotter, but 86-95 is still a hot day. especially when our winters are -10 to -35 degrees Celsius, which is 14 to -31 degrees Fahrenheit. and I am on 3 hairspray from the boarder. if you go to northern Quebec, Orono the 3 territories it's sub zero all the time.
I'm amazed at how much stuff you guys have on your body. How the hell do you run with all that gear on. Impressive, not to mention how hot you must get in the summer. I didn't realize you were that short, however; in my own personal experience, a lot of shorter guys are tough as hell. People underestimate them and that gives you an edge.
If you wear an external body armor carrier I highly recommend 221b tactical's maxx dri vest. It gives you a little bit of air circulation under the vest and helps keep you cooler and dry. They are kinda pricey but well worth it IMO. It also acts as a bit of padding under the vest which is nice too. I don't have any link to the company other than being a satisfied customer.
One of their vests would still help you be more comfortable I bet. They have a little thickness to them so it helps air get under your vest carrier. I wear mine all the time now even during the winter. It might make for a good video if you did a review on them too.
I brought a pair on January 9 2023. I didn’t I try to use them after I got them. But on this day February 25 2023 I decided to use them. I unsnapped the keepers and the snap on three of the four keepers came out of the keeper. So now I can not use them. Going to contact the place of purchase to see if they will send me new keepers.
so do you not attach the keepers to your under belt? you make it look you just throw the suspenders with the belt on then put your vest on you're ready to go. what happens when u gotta run full speed. unless u gotta Velcro in between . I'm just wondering cause I want them but don't want them to be a hassle either.
+Lucas Johnson I've run it all three ways. Velcro + suspenders, suspenders only, velcro + suspenders + belt keepers. All work. I prefer velcro + suspenders.
When you wear the suspenders and the 4 belt keeper attachments, are you still using belt keepers to prevent upward movement when sitting in cruiser or bending over?
I like the idea of suspenders because of how it takes the load off of the lower back but I don't use them because I haven't found any in brown or tan that that are comfortable do you know if they make this in either of those colors.
My department does not allow external carriers, and will not allow suspenders over the uniform shirt. I am wondering how these would work if I had a tailor cut a hole in my uniform shirts, so I could wear them underneath, and thread it thru the shirt, to the duty belt?
I have two questions to anyone to relieve back pain from wearing duty belt#1) which one is better backup brace or suspenders?#2) can you wear backup brace and suspenders?
free field training Ehhh.... I tend to try and keep all my junk in the trunk. I find that whenever im cruising through the suck and got the moss 88 street sweeper on hop out default, and I hit the quick release on the barrel lock I always struggle getting out the 12 gauge street howitzer with 3 inch federal slugs past a pair of busty dibble Ds titties filled with krispy kreme filling and loaded stawberry short funnel Of course that was a year ago. Some how I moved all to my ass and back.
B L U E You got me, im a deputy named dan. I guess I gotta find a better moniker without too many hints... how about sheriff's minion dan guy" that sounds hella discrete.
Do any users of this product notice any discomfort from the external carrier pushing either the swivel point or adjustment buckel into your back? Thanks!
Anyone knows if this works for women LEOs. I am fortunate that our department provides an outer carry vest, so this might work. I am curious how this goes around breasts. Sciatic and hip pain from my duty belt is kicking my ass.
How well have they held up since you made the review video? I've got my Sheriff pretty much convinced in purchasing these for two of us on the department. Just waiting for a reply from the owner of the company as to whether or not they bill Departments from the United States.
I would think those would be too thick to thread through. You may be able to rig something with zip ties and such, but no guarantees on my end. You guys have external vest covers?
free field training we have the choice to wear external carriers or wear armor under our shirt, however if I wear armor under my uniform shirt I can't use suspenders seeing as how I would have to wear them over my uniform shirt, which isn't allowed, but with an external carriers I can wear suspenders and in my case with my back condition is a big life saver.
I was just asking because I've never seen suspenders on brown basketweave. Hell the only time I've seen brown basketweave was at Nick's funeral in Merrillville a few years ago.
I have jumped between just velcro, velcro and keepers, keepers and suspenders, ect for quite a while. they all have their up and down points. luckily none of them are big ticket items.
+Ian Sanders they are two different agencies run by two different department heads working for two different elected officials. Having two different guns issued shouldn't be surprising. They are free to issue whatever they want.
+Noah Flores all of them are kinda about being short as a police officer. That is the o ly perspective I can come from. If I was tall I might be preaching "Tommy big, me smash problem till problem over" lol
I bought the leather backed suspenders you 1st reviewed from 911 gear to replace my K&W suspenders I bought 4 years ago. I like how they have nice wide cushion for the shoulders and you can tell they are quality. They fit perfect under my Blauer uniform vest carrier for a nice clean look. Thanks for your videos!
+Jake Krueger I like em.
Because of this review I purchased these suspenders. They are awesome!!
how did they hold up for you? I'd appreciate any tips you have :)
@@NayokeHenji these are an amazing piece of kit, highly recommended.
@@D3vice1 thank you very much, I am beginning to have sciatic nerve issues and lower back pain so I'd really rather take care of that sooner rather than later.
I’m just trying to figure out how I would wear these under my uniform....? I don’t wear a tac vest but an under vest with a regular uniform shirt
@@tommyrio3713 have you run it past your superiors? Because it helps by taking pressure off you. My managers understood that and were fine with it.
The experience of the designer as a CO makes a difference. The fashion industry that typically designs clothing is so anti-police that they refuse to help law enforcement with clothing and accessory designs. Natick Soldier Systems Center (NSSC) used to be much more effective to help design clothing and accessories for the military, but NSSC has lost their effectiveness. NSSC ain't what it used to be. The hate I got at school when designing equipment for law enforcement was pretty heavy. The fashion students did not want to cooperate with law enforcement, because they got arrested too many times for drugs and prostitution. It takes courage to design stuff for law enforcement, and it also takes experience. The good thing is that a CO with good information from the inside and some motivation and guts can make products that help law enforcement. Before NSSC went soft there were some really good things we learned about how to make clothing for the military and LE customers. These detailed reviews of equipment are really awesome. I smile when I see how officers do appreciate the details that make a difference.
+Ryan Scott you have no idea how much we appreciate when someone takes the time to make a peace of kit that actually does the job it is supposed to do instead of making it to tick boxes.
My first engineering boss taught me some lessons on designing clothing the proper way. He worked to design the flight suits for the military aviators and bras for Victoria's Secret, back when VS still sold quality products. There is a true science to designing clothing, accessories, and load bearing equipment the proper way to avoid the discomfort of chafing, bruising, blisters, overheating/overcooling, moisture removal, etc. Courtaulds was vertically integrated, producing the chemicals, fibers, threads, fabrics, and all the way to some pretty advanced clothing designs. NSSC used to do a good job. Courtaulds also used to do a good job, but some bad CEOs destroyed the company and the parent company Sara Lee (the pastry company). Courtaulds really did care about members of the military and law enforcement. Many of the specialized fibers and fabrics were developed for the military and LE. I really miss those days of working at Courtaulds, once a great company. The engineers that designed the clothing really cared about doing a good job. A little effort up front really made a difference, and we knew that people did appreciate that. The most I do right now is modify everyday clothing for super concealed carry for executives and undercover officers. The technology of surveillance with arrayed microphones and spread spectrum broadcasting is leaps and bounds better than the bugged microphones of the 80's and 90's. Microphones and cameras can be hidden anywhere, even inside fabrics.
depending on where you live and if your a civilian you can carry some of this stuff all the time. it saved my life. last week a cop moved in next door and sw stole his car when he went to get it back they jumped him.
great review can't say that enough
Hey bro I've only been a sub for a few months now and I am really interested to get a perspective on being a short officer. I am also from Chicago and wanted to apply to the state police academy but I was afraid that 5'8 would be too short. How are u treated by other officers and the public when going out to a call and how do you handle yourself during a fight? I would really appreciated if you could respond and keep up the great videos!
+coolguy3100 I would kill to be 5'08". But, mainly for personal reasons. When I was new it was an issue with being taken seriously. Five years in it was just a joke. Eleven years in it is no longer and issue at all. Several hundred fights later and the people I work with only bring it up when we are shit talking, usually after I laugh at them for bumping their head going down a steep staircase, searching and attic, or exiting the back of a bearcat. The public can sometimes be ignorant about it but, the people who do that will find something to be ignorant about no matter what. Follow your dreams brother! The only reason to worry about it is as an excuse to fail. Don't give yourself the excuse.
free field training alright thanks for the advice sir and be safe out there
5 foot two dude you’re an inch shorter than me and I’m almost 18 that raises my fucking hopes so high in the fact that I hope to be able to confidently and competently take control of situations and fuck shit up if need be you’re literally my model because I’m not getting much taller than this, my father is basically an umpa loompa, and honestly short stocky beats tall lanky any days I mean fuck man, you built like a tank...
Hey, here in Canada we have hot summers. Most of our summer the temperature is in the 30's Celsius. that's 86 degrees and up Fahrenheit.
+Jon Daigle I went to scout camp in the upper reaches of Michigan in the summer. I know it gets hot up there. I just can't resist the joke.
+Jon Daigle it was though, over 100 actual temp in Chicago a couple days ago, and much of the USA is south of us.
free field training I know it's hotter, but 86-95 is still a hot day. especially when our winters are -10 to -35 degrees Celsius, which is 14 to -31 degrees Fahrenheit. and I am on 3 hairspray from the boarder. if you go to northern Quebec, Orono the 3 territories it's sub zero all the time.
+Jon Daigle yeah, I like the winter, but screw that shit.
free field training It's nuts. It's small part ofwhy I'm moving to the states in the next few years.
I'm amazed at how much stuff you guys have on your body. How the hell do you run with all that gear on. Impressive, not to mention how hot you must get in the summer. I didn't realize you were that short, however; in my own personal experience, a lot of shorter guys are tough as hell. People underestimate them and that gives you an edge.
+Jameson Cross well, I am 200lbs... Horsepower counts for something.
If you wear an external body armor carrier I highly recommend 221b tactical's maxx dri vest. It gives you a little bit of air circulation under the vest and helps keep you cooler and dry. They are kinda pricey but well worth it IMO. It also acts as a bit of padding under the vest which is nice too. I don't have any link to the company other than being a satisfied customer.
+Chris Jones I pay to have breathable mesh put in the underside of my vest when I have it made.
One of their vests would still help you be more comfortable I bet. They have a little thickness to them so it helps air get under your vest carrier. I wear mine all the time now even during the winter. It might make for a good video if you did a review on them too.
+Chris Jones if they wanted to send me one that would be cool, but I'm not made of that kind of money man.
free field training I hear you. Still, it might be worth sending them an email to see what they say.
I brought a pair on January 9 2023. I didn’t I try to use them after I got them. But on this day February 25 2023 I decided to use them. I unsnapped the keepers and the snap on three of the four keepers came out of the keeper. So now I can not use them. Going to contact the place of purchase to see if they will send me new keepers.
Very well done video and an awesome product at a very affordable price.
so do you not attach the keepers to your under belt? you make it look you just throw the suspenders with the belt on then put your vest on you're ready to go. what happens when u gotta run full speed. unless u gotta Velcro in between . I'm just wondering cause I want them but don't want them to be a hassle either.
+Lucas Johnson I've run it all three ways. Velcro + suspenders, suspenders only, velcro + suspenders + belt keepers. All work. I prefer velcro + suspenders.
When you wear the suspenders and the 4 belt keeper attachments, are you still using belt keepers to prevent upward movement when sitting in cruiser or bending over?
I am but some people don't.
My question is how do u tuck in your shirt after puting it on. Some plz answers. Corrections officer in cali. Thx
They go over your Uniform shit. And your exterior carrier goes over the suspenders.
I like the idea of suspenders because of how it takes the load off of the lower back but I don't use them because I haven't found any in brown or tan that that are comfortable do you know if they make this in either of those colors.
+Johnny Reb I don't think they do. Some companies make ones that go under your uniform shirt though.
My department does not allow external carriers, and will not allow suspenders over the uniform shirt. I am wondering how these would work if I had a tailor cut a hole in my uniform shirts, so I could wear them underneath, and thread it thru the shirt, to the duty belt?
Since you didn't show you wearing it in uniform, I assume you can't wear it with a shirt over it? Meaning the rig would be concealed.
+darryl sawyer That is correct. It dosent conceal under a shirt. At least there is no way to do it that I have found.
Is it uncomfortable when you have the outer vest carrier over the suspenders .
You are the same size as me. I'm 5'3" tall. I was afraid I was too short for them
Are the keeper regular sized? I want to make sure the keepers have enough room for me to wrap them around my inner belt and my duty belt.
Awesome.
Can you wear body armor over the suspenders
I have two questions to anyone to relieve back pain from wearing duty belt#1) which one is better backup brace or suspenders?#2) can you wear backup brace and suspenders?
Would this work for a deputy with a consideribly unaverge amount of back fat?
+Daniel C.H. KH9UXF as a cop with a considerably unaverage amount of front fat I would say probably.
free field training Ehhh.... I tend to try and keep all my junk in the trunk. I find that whenever im cruising through the suck and got the moss 88 street sweeper on hop out default, and I hit the quick release on the barrel lock I always struggle getting out the 12 gauge street howitzer with 3 inch federal slugs past a pair of busty dibble Ds titties filled with krispy kreme filling and loaded stawberry short funnel
Of course that was a year ago. Some how I moved all to my ass and back.
Daniel C.H. KH9UXF Deputy Dan is that you? 😂😂😂
Sorry I blew your cover.
B L U E You got me, im a deputy named dan. I guess I gotta find a better moniker without too many hints... how about sheriff's minion dan guy" that sounds hella discrete.
can it go under my uniform shirt?? I cant have anything showing above my class A's
Do you still use belt keepers to keep your belt to your under belt?
Do any users of this product notice any discomfort from the external carrier pushing either the swivel point or adjustment buckel into your back? Thanks!
how would you compare these to the Tactical Tailer LE Duty Suspenders or the Grey Ghost LE Suspenders?
Anyone knows if this works for women LEOs. I am fortunate that our department provides an outer carry vest, so this might work. I am curious how this goes around breasts. Sciatic and hip pain from my duty belt is kicking my ass.
Where do I buy this product? I see some options on the top links but I don’t see 911 suspenders
How well have they held up since you made the review video? I've got my Sheriff pretty much convinced in purchasing these for two of us on the department. Just waiting for a reply from the owner of the company as to whether or not they bill Departments from the United States.
I have four pairs that are all still in use by guys at my Pd.
As a sheriffs deputy in Indiana we wear brown basketweave, is there a way I can switch the belt keepers on the suspender to brown ones that I have.
I've never tried. The ones you guys are using are the thick ones from safariland though right?
free field training right, the leather ones.
I would think those would be too thick to thread through. You may be able to rig something with zip ties and such, but no guarantees on my end. You guys have external vest covers?
free field training we have the choice to wear external carriers or wear armor under our shirt, however if I wear armor under my uniform shirt I can't use suspenders seeing as how I would have to wear them over my uniform shirt, which isn't allowed, but with an external carriers I can wear suspenders and in my case with my back condition is a big life saver.
I was just asking because I've never seen suspenders on brown basketweave. Hell the only time I've seen brown basketweave was at Nick's funeral in Merrillville a few years ago.
Any insight on how this would attach to a molle "battle belt" instead of a regular duty belt?
These go underneath the polo shirt?
5'2"? For fuck's sake. Next.
Do you think i could where a backpack over it?
How do you tuck your shirt in though.......
Any ideas, tips, tricks, or suggestions for someone who has to wear their suspenders under their uniform shirt?
+DesolateDivinity there are, or at least were a few brands that make suspenders that conceal under a shirt. I've never had to use them though.
I have the same thoughts any idea?
Can you still use shirt stays with this system?
You say you wear an external vest and wear this under. Can it be worn on top of a uniform?
If policy allows it yes
On my Blauer shirt they would fit, but I still wouldn't. That's lots of extra work. I would just leave them attached to the belt.
do you use the attachments instead of regular keepers?
I have jumped between just velcro, velcro and keepers, keepers and suspenders, ect for quite a while. they all have their up and down points. luckily none of them are big ticket items.
Hey field free training i have a question ive seen city police where i live with the standard glock but sherrifs with 1911s. why is that
+Ian Sanders they are two different agencies run by two different department heads working for two different elected officials. Having two different guns issued shouldn't be surprising. They are free to issue whatever they want.
The city department has better admin than the sheriff that's all, lol.
Lol hey just because it's cold in the winter doesn't mean we don't get 100°F+ in the summer!!
Very Nice
+Anastacio Rodriguez I think Gord did a very good job designing these.
yea quality right there
I'd raver it be very secure e.g. slide
Can you wear this under your shirt ??
+Aaron Dabney I haven't found a way.
Too bad they don't make the keepers in basketweave.
+duhflushtech yeah, I haven't found any company that does though, so I'm allowed to use them anyway.
Sir you should do a video on being short as a police officer
+Noah Flores all of them are kinda about being short as a police officer. That is the o ly perspective I can come from. If I was tall I might be preaching "Tommy big, me smash problem till problem over" lol
what model teaser is that?
+river Brown x26p
free field training thank you sir
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Ha I'm taller and younger than you
*fakes sip*
*sets closed lid cup down*
If you listen carefully you can hear me close the lid of the cup.