I’m in my 60's and have done a lot of walking and backpacking when I was young and now when I'm old. And I've thought about this subject many times. The first thing you will need is a clear head. Panic and rash decisions are a mistake. Sometimes sheltering at work or in a friendly environment can be safer than trying to cross a riot torn or disaster collapsed city on foot. If you make the decision to walk, start as calmly as possible. Do things like check your shoelaces, wallet, glasses and hat, pee before you leave. If you have to leave your car, put it somewhere besides leaving it in the street. The take pictures of it for insurance purposes. See what I mean about clear headed and calm? Next, are you traveling in a group? If it is a well organized group of like minded people, fine. If it is a panicking Karen, two meatheads and the maniac "leader", you might be better off solo. If you live within 30 miles of where you work you can get home in under 24 hours on foot. You don't want to bed down, you want to get home. Keep moving. I used to be able to cover 20 miles of urban and suburban walking without a pack in 8 hours including some rest time during the walk. Yes, I had some cash to buy food and drink on the way. Unless there is a blizzard, you can cover those miles. A blizzard is one of those find safe shelter indoors situations. If I were to carry that pack at that time I could probably cover about 12 miles in the same amount of time. Get it down to SIX Pounds so you can move quickly, easily and for a long time. It seems you have enough gear there for two people to cover 30 miles in two days. A pack with a belly band and a sternum strap will help keep the pack tight and allow you to move better. A single partly used chap stick will be enough, not a jar of Vaseline. One trash bag or poncho will be enough. Ditch all the food except 1,000 calories of quick energy. Unless you are anorexic you have enough calories in your body to walk that far without eating a thing. The 1,000 calories is just to give you some comfort. Water, two liters for up to 30 miles. Yes, you might get a bit dehydrated, but unless you have a single kidney or kidney disease you will live. One of the things you can read is the stories of D-Day and how many paratroopers dumped equipment within the first day. The first thing to go was the gas masks. It was extra weight. That first aid kit will get dumped just as those gas masks. Minimize that first aid kit. You can get by with a couple band aids for blisters and some tape and one gauze pad. If you have bad knees or ankles, the appropriate wrap. And make sure it is the right size by walking with it. Check your bag monthly and make sure it is suitable for the current climate. Long underwear in the winter, an extra pair of underwear in the hot weather. Spare socks always. Maybe even dust the summer underwear with baby powder before putting them in a zip lock. Find out how long that battery will last with the light on. In the winter you may require up to four sets of batteries. Spare glasses are light and may come in handy for those of us that wear glasses. A bandana may help if there is urban smoke or maybe even a Nebraska combine or prairie fire. In some locations a map of the bicycle trails may come in handy. FIFTY DOLLARS IN SMALL BILLS located in four different pockets of your pack. Ten for the street thugs looking for money, Thirty for the guy that offers you the last ride out of Dodge. If you need four magazines to get out of somewhere; you made a bad decision. Granted bad decisions make great stories, but only if you get out alive. If you don't regularly wear excellent walking shoes, sneakers or boots, gets some, break them in, coat them in a good snow seal wax and keep them in the trunk of your car. The one tool I might carry in an urban environment where I might have to zigzag around riots or fires is a bolt cutter. Chain link fence topped with barbed wire can be such a bitch. I used to carry a foot long crowbar. Used it a few times for getting into and out of places. It fit under my belt. A leather vest or a jacket may come in handy for going over barbed wire. Final bit of advice, do some roadwork once in a while. Skip watching the game at least once a month to put on a pack and go for a walk just for the exercise. Get used to that pack, find out how it fits after an hour or two of carrying it. Personal, about me, I live in a small town west of Des Moines, I'm retired and I walk about 900 miles a year carrying a 20 pound pack while walking a hunting dog in town and on the bike paths. This year we have walked over 95% of days. I go through a pair of sneakers every summer and a pair of boots every winter. I used to backpack the mountains and hills of New England when I was young in all kinds of weather. I’ve heard branches burst at forty below zero, was in a tent for Hurricaine Bertha hitting cape code, canoe camped on islands, woken up with snow on my tent and heard a bear eat three days worth of food for two people. Yes, it was tied over a branch over the river, the bear understood rope. The bear even understood that you should unwrap the sliced cheese.
@@phild8095 To be sad about the lost food eaten by the bear, only to be able to tell an amazing story for the rest of your life just minutes later: priceless 😁
@Phil D Thank you for sharing your experience. I appreciate this entire comment. You rock 🤙. I too have woken up in the mountains with snow on my tent, tree planted for years and lived in a tent, love hiking in the Canadian Rockies, many encounters with bears as well. Those bears are spectacular creatures. I am always in awe of what they are capable of. Thanks again 😊
The one item I think is essential is a water tap key (that's what we call it in Australia). Getting water in an urban environment is so much easier if any tap you find can be used.
I haven't made my bag yet, but the bag I bring to work every day tends to have many of these items already. Food, water, fire tools, batteries, lights, etc. I also keep extra layers in my vehicle, as Canadian winters can catch you off guard!
I do carry a Sillcock key and eye pro. It's just not pre staged in the bag, it is in the vehicle though, as it's getting used on a somewhat regular bases. I might throw a sawyer filter in there as some point but for the way I'm using this bag the tablets are convenient, light weight and functional. For a longer duration set up I would have a filter for sure though. Shamag would be a good call out to add in there. Don't currently carrying anything that would be considered a breathing filter outside of a cloth mask at the moment. I would be open to suggestions !
Nice video, good work! I'd still replace the Blender Bottle with a Grayl Geopress or a Bachgold Filter. They are basically the same size and are filter by themselves.
I carry a small tin of "Vermont's original Bag Balm" istead of plain petroleum jelly. I also keep the cotton dry till I need it saturated with the bag balm. This just adds to the versatility of your first-aid supplies.
This is a nice kit, but cotton clothes??? Not a great choice for a SHTF since it soaks up water/sweat and will cause you to get cold and may kill you. Wool or synthetics would be a better choice.
It wont matter what you are carrying. If you have a bag you are going to be seen as the one who has. While those who do not have anything will want what you have.
Oh hands down, It isn't going to stop someone. The whole goal is just to do what you can to avoid attention. Doesn't mean it will always work but it's always worth a shot imo. Obviously your environment plays into this as well though and could make a difference on what you need or want to use.
You are thinking of a total societal collapse. You're more likely to have vehicle break down and need to walk home. Or other non-SHTF emergencies. I have a GHB similar to this. As well as a separate bag with folding AR pistol in 300BO. My point is have a lot of different gear in your vehicle. You can build the bag you need before you abandon your vehicle to walk home. If it's red dawn take the AR pistol. In the most likely scenario your vehicle has died on a desolate road with no cell phone and you need to walk home. You're probably not going to get mugged.
@@SHTFHunter I would agree to your statement to some extent, However. I live and work in public safety in a major metropolis were this statement does not ring true. I have seen people get shot over a parking space, I have personsally been involved in numerous calls across the board. A great number being, one person taking or wanting items that someone else has. I would say IMHO that we are living in a SHTF world now. it only depends how much crap is being thrown in your area.
Hi ,new subscriber here. My get home bag is a maxpedition falcon 2. It is full of molle etc.etc.etc , the build quality and durability is legendary . I fully understand your grey man orientated backpack choice, but a very simple option I use is a generic 45 liter backpack raincover ( saying Nike or Adidas)over my maxpedition falcon , the extra large rain cover gives the capability to cover everything stowed on the outside of my maxpedition falcon...( extra clothing layers etc.etc.) ( freeing up a ton of space inside) Win win ... Grey man backpack appearance, whilst retaining all the huge advantages of a hard-core tactical backpack. I do carry a few water purification tablets on my person but my main water purification system is the grayl geopress. I like your ready to eat food choice . Your trauma kit is superb . Your self defence option is truly the stuff of dreams for me .. I'm in the uk...The law here dictates that nobody is allowed to carry "ANY ITEM FOR THE PURPOSE OF SELF DEFENCE".( This is not a joke BTW) No guns ,no knives ,not even a stick. That said ,many items are " dual purpose " Therefore ,my get home bag contains a 14 inch ,ovalised, tool steel gorilla bar. Obviously I'm carrying it because I'm on my way to my friend's house as he's heard rodents under his floor boards so I'm on my way to help him lift some floor boards up in order to investigate the alleged rodent problem ( if you know what I mean .lol... If only we had the right to bear arms .... England would be heavenly . Great video .thanks.
Maxpedition is a great brand (worth every penny) Had mine for over 10 years = bug out bag , Vulture II / 3 day pack and still looks new. My EDC is a 5.11 Rush 24 pack for its build and organization
I love the take and thanks for Subscribing ! That seems like a great set up using the rain cover, specially if it's hiding the bag style. I've been looking at a geopress and when I build out a more extensive kit that's a item I want to get my hands on for sure. I know as well it sounds like the self defense options are a bit lackluster over there to say the least, Glad your thinking outside the box on that !
I'd agree with ya. Maxpedition makes some great gear ! I actually have one of those packs as well and it's a great and durable pack but I felt it was to big for what I was carrying and I just wanted something more subdued. I use it all the time when camping or hiking through and it holds up great.
@@shtfhoneybadger I really appreciate the reply . ... England is a joke . Creativity should not be required for self defence. You're obviously very knowledgeable and I'm glad you like my raincover suggestion . It works .😎👍
You don't have to stay at a water source with a water filter. You can screw them onto a cnoc water bag, screw onto a smart water/life water bottle, or put it in line on a hydration bladder. Way quicker than 30 mins of waiting to drink.
I did consider some of those other options but just felt the pills were best for this bags purpose. Each of those options do have their merit for sure though and for a longer duration kit I'd be more prone to use a bladder with a inline filter. I just felt in this case it's quick to fill up the bottle, Drop in the pills and then be on my way while the water is still purifying and they also to me seem to be the easiest to store/less likely to have a failure point or get damaged while being stored in a vehicle long term.
Given your stated support parameters it seems like a well thought out bag. There are a few things I'll bring up though. Personally I prefer not to have any glass items like that particular water sanitizer. I prefer the individually packed tablets as there is no glass to break. You might consider moving your flashlight (and batteries) to an outer pocket or the top of your pack to make it easier to rotate batteries. You didn't happen to mention what kind of batteries you use. If you're in a cold area, I would recommend Lithium batteries despite the cost. They last longer in storage and work better in the cold then alkaline. Or, use rechargeable batteries of Low Self-discharge type. Despite the everyday aspect of electronics (including the ham radio) you don't seem to have anything to keep them charged as part of your kit. While your kit is designed for 2 days support under optimal conditions, you could still easily drain battery on say a cell phone. Have you ever travelled through an area where there is no cell service. Quickest way to drain the battery is to leave it searching for service. Of course if you turn it off or in airplane mode and come across a signal you won't know it or pick up any messages that may have been sent to you by family. You could easily add a battery pack of 10k mah for not much space or weight and cable. Your ham radio looks like a Baofeng with the original battery. Given the suggestion above, you might want to get the USB chargeable battery for it. Since it works as an FM radio and HAM, you would want to keep it charged and not carry around a charging cradle.
There are a lot of molle style bags being carried by men in the wild. Go to any chain gym or college campus. Also, that style bag is just sturdier and more popular with everyone exiting mil service and going to college now. It’s a buy once, cry once bag that is only $50 more than a Jansport or something you see a HS kid replacing every year.
I don't disagree at all that some of those bags are a buy once, and cry once type bag. If you're looking for a true bug out bag or a outdoors/wilderness bag I'd go molle for that route. I'd also agree they are becoming more common place but they still in my opinion do stick out more then a normal backpack which is why I went the route I went. Plus for the purpose I'm using it for I don't need it to take months or years of abuse on hiking trails or doing range work. It's just primarily a bag set up to get from point A to B one time and then it's no longer needed as once I'm at one of the places I'm going I'd have access to much more extensive items.
I'm working on putting one together for my husband's truck. We have all the gear, just haven't packed it up yet. He has a shoulder bag for his weapons.
I dont think the molle bags are going to draw the attention you think they will. The vast majority of the people have no idea whats going on around them, they dont pay attention to the little things. I have learned this in my 16 years in law enforcement talking to witnesses of crimes.
See my experience has been a bit different. I've always noticed that the witnesses tend to not pay attention to things like that (or at least act like they don't), while the criminals, the smart ones at least, on the other hand always seem to notice changes or difference and things out of the ordinary to take advantage of. That's been my experience at least. Not saying it's a giant "Come and get me" flag using molle but I personally feel like it just sticks out more to people that are looking for things like that.
@@shtfhoneybadger The smart criminals are far and few between if you ask me. I use a common looking Vertx bag I got for free for my truck, but I have a tactical looking bag in my other 2 vehicles. I think if people go with subdued colors like black, its harder to notice them from further away. I like the tactical bags because they are usually better made and can carry loads better. The best part of this community, is everybody has different things, all people have to do is look around to get a different opinion and see if it will work for them. I do like your channel, you have great content.
@@PreparedOverlander That I can agree with. They aren't many out there but I'd always take the bet that you run into one of them at the worst time lol. I'd also agree full with the subdued colors being the better option as well. Plus you are spot on. There is always more then one approach and very few are actually wrong approaches. It all has to do with the environments you are operating in. I appreciate the compliment and will be trying to check out some of your videos here as well !
Yeah, I didn't mention it but I do carry a knife and cash as part of EDC so it's something I don't have duplicates of in the bag sense it's on my person. I do keep hats in my truck as well so I don't have a seperate one in the bag sense I already have ones with me. A battery bank would be a good item to have though. I'd personally be cautious with pepper spray though. It's not a 100% effective and it has a nasty habit of exploding in vehicles under certain weather conditions.(I've seen that one first hand)
two is one, one is none. Good fulltang knife is a must in EDC ( or if you're nnot fan of it, even hidden/rat tang are more than enough unless you're going to pry open doors and battoning), goes the same for multitool. i keep one set for EDC, another for GHB.
There are two of those in the bag that I touched on. The rolled up black items. I just don't have a orange on in there. They are awesome to have though for sure !
That's quit a big bag for potentially one day and most likely in an urban setting. Maybe it is more wants than needs for the potential situation? I am assuming that you are prepared at home and likely have more gear in your vehicle so perhaps mobility and speed are more important than garbage bags or multiple days of food? Maybe a sillcock key? They don't cost much, are small and can be a life saver in any urban hell hole.
Personally I feel like it's relatively minimal compared to what I noticed many people carry but that's just my observation. Ideally this set up or similar would be needed a day or less, but at the same time I'd rather have a bit of extra just incase it needs to stretch longer then that. The excess items are not enough extra weight to make a noticeable difference to me and I think having them is worth the trade off for the little bit of extra weight. The trash bags for example make a great poncho if needed and staying relatively dry when it's snowing or raining makes a heck of a big difference on your ability to keep moving. I do have a sillcock key in my vehicle, that would get grabbed. It just stays in a more accessible spot then the bag for more normal use.
@@shtfhoneybadger fair enough. I know what you mean about the competitive size of your kit, I have seen "get home bags" based on the ILBE, FILBE, MOLLE 2 large ruck or even the British PLCE that just didn't fit the potential scenario. Now, I do know people who regularly work 500-1000 miles from home and do pack a very large ruck. That is based on the fact that the area they are in will also consistantly hit and stay well below -40 Celcius for weeks on end and they may need to bunker in before traveling and the trip itself may take months to complete. I know, an extreme situation that is actually more of a bug out or INCH scenario but the end game is the same-going home!
@@turtlewolfpack6061 I get that to. Those situations exist and some people may need a kit size like that but it's so few people yet so many actually set up big bags like that and they just turn into a hindrance and a loot drop. I'd take a bet that over 75% of people are within 20 miles of their homes all but a few times a year.
@@shtfhoneybadger exactly! It isn't hard, even for me, for 75% of the time to pack less than 5lbs in a 10 liter bag for getting home. Im not going to be comfortable, but that isn't the point.
I get the gray man idea, but in a true SHTF anyone out and about, with or without any type of pack, will be a target, so I place less importance on the gray man idea than other people do. Anyone with any sort of pack/baggage will be a bigger target. Especially since the gray man idea has spread to lots of people.
Yeah, I get that completly. I always figure most situations won't be a full out SHTF situation right off the bat at least so not sticking out will be a benifit. But it's all situational though for sure.
The idea of a bug out bag is for emergencies where you have to leave your home. House fire 🔥 tornado 🌪️ eviction notice 📞 and more! That's why I keep a bag that I could live out of if I had to. consider things in town you can use to your advantage like truck stop shower 🚿 laundromat 🧺 parks and more. I've noticed that tactical gear is usually not practical in an ordinary day in the city 🏙️ having something simple and not too extravagant is best. I keep a go bag at home, However a get home bag is fine too. I Cary a bag to work and ride my bicycle so I have a good idea of how I can survive any disaster.
That's a great bag to have and to me that is what makes more sense as a bug out bag. That's not really what you see them usually geared towards though which is why I point more towards a get home bag as a better options. I'm glad you shared your take on it !
I’m in an urban/suburban area, and I see molle equipped packs constantly. The junior High kids that get off the bus down the road have “tactical” backpacks. I see them at the mall. Amazon has flooded the market with $30-$60 “tactical” packs.
@@podsmpsg1 That's a 100% understandable. I personally haven't dabbled with Vertex but I know they are pretty well known for setting up some great bags that don't appear tactical. Maybe a good option to look into for ya.
Did you know that the tactical equipment company „Tasmanian Tiger“ is a company of Tatonka, a well-known outdoor products manufacturer company? Tatonka has a lot of different, „normal“ looking backpacks with different backpack carrying systems. Their top carrying system is called X1-system. Also very good is the Tatonka V2-carryingsystem, which deals with weight over 25 kilograms or 55 lb like the X1-system too. The Tatonka V-comfort-vario system is for carrying a backpack with less weight (up to 15 kilograms). The Tatonka Y1-system has specially arranged rods in its carrying construction. The Tatonka X-Light-Vario carrying system was designed to be as light as possible and is the right choice especially for movement-intensive tours with less luggage. The Tatonka X-Vent-Zero carrying system offers maximum possible ventilation with minimal contact with the back while the Frame-Vent carrying system is a little bit less maximum ventilation and a little bit more contact with your back. The Tatonka Vent-Comfort carrying system provides air circulation through a central ventilation channel and an air-permeable AirMesh cover. So choose the carrying system which fits bests for your needs, body and situation.
I Carry My Fixed Blade Knife With Sheath With Me On My Belt In Case SHTF And Black Military Tactical Assault Backpack And Black Military Tactical Drop Leg Bag In Case SHTF. That's My Bug Out Bag And Get Home Bag.
If im within a couple hour walk from my house n family the only thing all that stuff is gonna do is slow me down. If its that bad out where im leaving my vehicle im getting to my family as quick as i can which means hauling ass. Gimme my edc gun, knife, and flashlight along with a bottle of water n a snickers. All that other stuff is just unnecessary weight. Definitely not stopping to make a fire or purify water
I feel that a 110%. In a perfect world I'd agree. In reality though a couple hours could turn into a day or two, but it's all dependent on situation. I'd say the trade off having a couple extra pounds with the added capability is worth it in case that ugly thing known as Murphy's law pops up.
I hate to say it but no matter what kind of hack you have on whether it's a book bag or a tactical bag... The truth of the matter is if it ever comes down to that point you really think people are going to care what kind of bag you have on no they're going to be interested in what's in that bag bottom line... Just so you know I'm not knocking your video just saying
I think in a worst case scenario that is a 100% accurate and I wouldn't debate it. I do think though in quite a few scenarios in the middle it would help you avoid unwanted attention but it just depends on what you are viewing as the opposition. Over all It's always your call and I think both sides have valid arguments.
This is all assuming the disaster is one where someone is after you and you need to hide, when in reality most disasters you WANT to be seen by first responders and others. Especially during bad weather. So bright colors can save your life.
That's true, It all depends on the situations you may encounter and if it's one where you want to be highly visable. I carry a 3M reflective vest in my vehicle that I can grab if I want to be more visable, I just don't carry it in the bag itself. I'd personally choose subdued colors for gear becaue I perfer to not stick out unless I choose to but that is for sure you're perogative if you want to have items brightly colored.
Bag look doesn't matter but if u have a s 70$ bag ur in trouble for a serious situation its ur lifeline..a bag like a cheap bag will fail quickly. A bag is a bag unless it say Louis votton. Don't worry about quailty gear. It'll serve u well!!
I'd say that's fair. I still personally would want to avoid anything attention grabbing but that's just me. And exactly, You don't need anything expensive or fancy, Just something thing the ruggedness to hold up.
I don’t think it matters if it’s a tactical bag or a “normal” bag. In todays times I see so many civilian people using tactical looking bags as everyday bags. Also, if the person is a scum bag he’s gonna try and take what you have no matter what kind of bag you have.
Personally I'd still avoid it but that's just my viewpoint on it. In the end it's not going to stop a bad person from doing bad things, it just would be another way that could help ya get a bit less noticied.
Anyone carrying any kind of kit in an SHTF situation is gonna be a target. Molly on your bag isn’t going to make a difference in that situation. As to the day to day, I don’t think it matters either. If you see these cities with their rash of smash and grab crime, they don’t look closely at the bag they steal. They see a dark lump, break the window, grab anything they see and run. In all the videos I’ve seen, none of the bags stolen looked tactical at all. The bag Being visible and accessible along with looking like a tourist and having no situational awareness is all that seems to matter. Criminals aren’t as discerning as people seem to think they are.
its not Molle that is problem, but the size of backpack; i have small (20L or so) tactical pack, and no one fret about it, but when i carry my bigger one (50 and 80 liters), all eyes are on me, Military pack or hiking one, its all the same. as long as you're not running around in full plate carrier, matching BDU, oversized pack and "assault rifle" in hands, people wont even notice you. i like your GHB; no nonsense, practical bag that will help you get back home. at least you didnt try to do "BOB" or INCH bags; its just a utter bullshit to think that one can carry everything they need to survive in hostile environment in their BACKPACKS !!!
I would say that is a fair point as well. I still think Molle bags stick out more then a non-molle bag but it depends on your area. Molle is becoming more mainstream in some areas. And I agree with you fully about BOB. They have a place but I think people want to carry everything except the kitchen sink in them and that's just asking for problems, specially when most people would never need to bug out and trying to bug out if you don't have to is asking for a disaster.
There is a nice guidance text at the Heinnie Haynes website (online shop from Cardiff, United Kingdom) I like to read and let me quote it: […] PALS (Pouch Attachment Ladder System) is a grid of webbing invented and patented by the United States Army. […] MOLLE packs (modular lightweight load-carrying equipment) is the current rucksack for most military units. […] In summary essentially PALS is the webbing and MOLLE is the attachment. If you have PALS webbing you can use MOLLE attachments. […]
That’s the whole point of the bag. Could be something as simple as a car breakdown, waiting for recovery in freezing cold with no ability to turn engine on can be at best uncomfortable, at worst live threatening. I was stuck for a couple of hours. Improvised and used a yoga mat and Xmas hat to keep warm.
used to be; when angry mob is burning down buildings "bug in" isnt option no matter ho much guns and ammo you have. and we aint far from that kind of major SHTF events im afraid.
@@ApocGuy Very true. One more reason its good to keep a get home bag light, you’ll want to be light on your feet, agile, and may need to squeeze between stuff or hide behind objects. Hard to do with a large heavy backpack.
I’m in my 60's and have done a lot of walking and backpacking when I was young and now when I'm old. And I've thought about this subject many times.
The first thing you will need is a clear head. Panic and rash decisions are a mistake. Sometimes sheltering at work or in a friendly environment can be safer than trying to cross a riot torn or disaster collapsed city on foot. If you make the decision to walk, start as calmly as possible. Do things like check your shoelaces, wallet, glasses and hat, pee before you leave. If you have to leave your car, put it somewhere besides leaving it in the street. The take pictures of it for insurance purposes. See what I mean about clear headed and calm?
Next, are you traveling in a group? If it is a well organized group of like minded people, fine. If it is a panicking Karen, two meatheads and the maniac "leader", you might be better off solo.
If you live within 30 miles of where you work you can get home in under 24 hours on foot. You don't want to bed down, you want to get home. Keep moving.
I used to be able to cover 20 miles of urban and suburban walking without a pack in 8 hours including some rest time during the walk. Yes, I had some cash to buy food and drink on the way. Unless there is a blizzard, you can cover those miles. A blizzard is one of those find safe shelter indoors situations.
If I were to carry that pack at that time I could probably cover about 12 miles in the same amount of time. Get it down to SIX Pounds so you can move quickly, easily and for a long time. It seems you have enough gear there for two people to cover 30 miles in two days.
A pack with a belly band and a sternum strap will help keep the pack tight and allow you to move better.
A single partly used chap stick will be enough, not a jar of Vaseline. One trash bag or poncho will be enough. Ditch all the food except 1,000 calories of quick energy. Unless you are anorexic you have enough calories in your body to walk that far without eating a thing. The 1,000 calories is just to give you some comfort. Water, two liters for up to 30 miles. Yes, you might get a bit dehydrated, but unless you have a single kidney or kidney disease you will live.
One of the things you can read is the stories of D-Day and how many paratroopers dumped equipment within the first day. The first thing to go was the gas masks. It was extra weight. That first aid kit will get dumped just as those gas masks. Minimize that first aid kit. You can get by with a couple band aids for blisters and some tape and one gauze pad. If you have bad knees or ankles, the appropriate wrap. And make sure it is the right size by walking with it. Check your bag monthly and make sure it is suitable for the current climate. Long underwear in the winter, an extra pair of underwear in the hot weather. Spare socks always. Maybe even dust the summer underwear with baby powder before putting them in a zip lock.
Find out how long that battery will last with the light on. In the winter you may require up to four sets of batteries.
Spare glasses are light and may come in handy for those of us that wear glasses. A bandana may help if there is urban smoke or maybe even a Nebraska combine or prairie fire. In some locations a map of the bicycle trails may come in handy.
FIFTY DOLLARS IN SMALL BILLS located in four different pockets of your pack. Ten for the street thugs looking for money, Thirty for the guy that offers you the last ride out of Dodge.
If you need four magazines to get out of somewhere; you made a bad decision. Granted bad decisions make great stories, but only if you get out alive.
If you don't regularly wear excellent walking shoes, sneakers or boots, gets some, break them in, coat them in a good snow seal wax and keep them in the trunk of your car.
The one tool I might carry in an urban environment where I might have to zigzag around riots or fires is a bolt cutter. Chain link fence topped with barbed wire can be such a bitch. I used to carry a foot long crowbar. Used it a few times for getting into and out of places. It fit under my belt.
A leather vest or a jacket may come in handy for going over barbed wire.
Final bit of advice, do some roadwork once in a while. Skip watching the game at least once a month to put on a pack and go for a walk just for the exercise. Get used to that pack, find out how it fits after an hour or two of carrying it.
Personal, about me, I live in a small town west of Des Moines, I'm retired and I walk about 900 miles a year carrying a 20 pound pack while walking a hunting dog in town and on the bike paths. This year we have walked over 95% of days. I go through a pair of sneakers every summer and a pair of boots every winter. I used to backpack the mountains and hills of New England when I was young in all kinds of weather. I’ve heard branches burst at forty below zero, was in a tent for Hurricaine Bertha hitting cape code, canoe camped on islands, woken up with snow on my tent and heard a bear eat three days worth of food for two people. Yes, it was tied over a branch over the river, the bear understood rope. The bear even understood that you should unwrap the sliced cheese.
Thanks a lot for telling us your experiences and learnings!!! The last sentence was gold😂
@@paulhorn24 Seeing that neat pile of sliced cheese wrappers on the ground was amazing. That was an experienced bear.
@@phild8095 To be sad about the lost food eaten by the bear, only to be able to tell an amazing story for the rest of your life just minutes later: priceless 😁
That was a big read there but it sounds like you have a lot of great experience. Glad to see that down here in the comments !
@Phil D Thank you for sharing your experience. I appreciate this entire comment. You rock 🤙. I too have woken up in the mountains with snow on my tent, tree planted for years and lived in a tent, love hiking in the Canadian Rockies, many encounters with bears as well. Those bears are spectacular creatures. I am always in awe of what they are capable of. Thanks again 😊
Greetings from Tennessee but originally from Nebraska. Great video. Thank you for sharing.
The one item I think is essential is a water tap key (that's what we call it in Australia). Getting water in an urban environment is so much easier if any tap you find can be used.
Thanks !
I haven't made my bag yet, but the bag I bring to work every day tends to have many of these items already. Food, water, fire tools, batteries, lights, etc. I also keep extra layers in my vehicle, as Canadian winters can catch you off guard!
That's awesome. You might be about to what you need with out even knowing it.
No sillcock key, sawyer filter, shamag, eye protection, or breathing filter?
I do carry a Sillcock key and eye pro. It's just not pre staged in the bag, it is in the vehicle though, as it's getting used on a somewhat regular bases. I might throw a sawyer filter in there as some point but for the way I'm using this bag the tablets are convenient, light weight and functional. For a longer duration set up I would have a filter for sure though. Shamag would be a good call out to add in there. Don't currently carrying anything that would be considered a breathing filter outside of a cloth mask at the moment. I would be open to suggestions !
Nice video, good work! I'd still replace the Blender Bottle with a Grayl Geopress or a Bachgold Filter. They are basically the same size and are filter by themselves.
Now that my husband works away a cpl days a week I'll be making him one. Along with printing a cpl map options to get home easily
I use a big fancy molle tactical bag. I’m not worried about grabbing attention.
I carry a small tin of "Vermont's original Bag Balm" istead of plain petroleum jelly.
I also keep the cotton dry till I need it saturated with the bag balm. This just adds to the versatility of your first-aid supplies.
That's a solid idea. That's one of the reasons I've actually kept the small container of petrolum jelly seperate.
This is a nice kit, but cotton clothes??? Not a great choice for a SHTF since it soaks up water/sweat and will cause you to get cold and may kill you. Wool or synthetics would be a better choice.
I would add a whistle for signaling; a silcock key; and some cash in small denominations. Nice job. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks and you're welcome ! Interesting take on the whistle, I do carry the other two items though, they just aren't in the bag directly.
It wont matter what you are carrying. If you have a bag you are going to be seen as the one who has. While those who do not have anything will want what you have.
Bingo, tactical molle bag or Jan sport, it doesnt matter, people will be watching.
Oh hands down, It isn't going to stop someone. The whole goal is just to do what you can to avoid attention. Doesn't mean it will always work but it's always worth a shot imo. Obviously your environment plays into this as well though and could make a difference on what you need or want to use.
Agreed 100%.
You are thinking of a total societal collapse. You're more likely to have vehicle break down and need to walk home. Or other non-SHTF emergencies. I have a GHB similar to this. As well as a separate bag with folding AR pistol in 300BO. My point is have a lot of different gear in your vehicle. You can build the bag you need before you abandon your vehicle to walk home. If it's red dawn take the AR pistol. In the most likely scenario your vehicle has died on a desolate road with no cell phone and you need to walk home. You're probably not going to get mugged.
@@SHTFHunter I would agree to your statement to some extent, However. I live and work in public safety in a major metropolis were this statement does not ring true. I have seen people get shot over a parking space, I have personsally been involved in numerous calls across the board. A great number being, one person taking or wanting items that someone else has. I would say IMHO that we are living in a SHTF world now. it only depends how much crap is being thrown in your area.
Hi ,new subscriber here.
My get home bag is a maxpedition falcon 2.
It is full of molle etc.etc.etc , the build quality and durability is legendary .
I fully understand your grey man orientated backpack choice, but a very simple option I use is a generic 45 liter backpack raincover ( saying Nike or Adidas)over my maxpedition falcon , the extra large rain cover gives the capability to cover everything stowed on the outside of my maxpedition falcon...( extra clothing layers etc.etc.) ( freeing up a ton of space inside)
Win win ...
Grey man backpack appearance, whilst retaining all the huge advantages of a hard-core tactical backpack.
I do carry a few water purification tablets on my person but my main water purification system is the grayl geopress.
I like your ready to eat food choice .
Your trauma kit is superb .
Your self defence option is truly the stuff of dreams for me ..
I'm in the uk...The law here dictates that nobody is allowed to carry "ANY ITEM FOR THE PURPOSE OF SELF DEFENCE".( This is not a joke BTW)
No guns ,no knives ,not even a stick.
That said ,many items are
" dual purpose "
Therefore ,my get home bag contains a 14 inch ,ovalised, tool steel gorilla bar.
Obviously I'm carrying it because I'm on my way to my friend's house as he's heard rodents under his floor boards so I'm on my way to help him lift some floor boards up in order to investigate the alleged rodent problem ( if you know what I mean .lol...
If only we had the right to bear arms ....
England would be heavenly .
Great video .thanks.
Maxpedition is a great brand (worth every penny)
Had mine for over 10 years = bug out bag , Vulture II / 3 day pack and still looks new.
My EDC is a 5.11 Rush 24 pack for its build and organization
I love the take and thanks for Subscribing ! That seems like a great set up using the rain cover, specially if it's hiding the bag style. I've been looking at a geopress and when I build out a more extensive kit that's a item I want to get my hands on for sure. I know as well it sounds like the self defense options are a bit lackluster over there to say the least, Glad your thinking outside the box on that !
I'd agree with ya. Maxpedition makes some great gear ! I actually have one of those packs as well and it's a great and durable pack but I felt it was to big for what I was carrying and I just wanted something more subdued. I use it all the time when camping or hiking through and it holds up great.
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I really appreciate the reply .
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England is a joke .
Creativity should not be required for self defence.
You're obviously very knowledgeable and I'm glad you like my raincover suggestion .
It works .😎👍
Good video. No conflating BOBs with GHBs. 👍
Thanks !
You don't have to stay at a water source with a water filter. You can screw them onto a cnoc water bag, screw onto a smart water/life water bottle, or put it in line on a hydration bladder. Way quicker than 30 mins of waiting to drink.
I did consider some of those other options but just felt the pills were best for this bags purpose. Each of those options do have their merit for sure though and for a longer duration kit I'd be more prone to use a bladder with a inline filter. I just felt in this case it's quick to fill up the bottle, Drop in the pills and then be on my way while the water is still purifying and they also to me seem to be the easiest to store/less likely to have a failure point or get damaged while being stored in a vehicle long term.
Given your stated support parameters it seems like a well thought out bag. There are a few things I'll bring up though.
Personally I prefer not to have any glass items like that particular water sanitizer. I prefer the individually packed tablets as there is no glass to break.
You might consider moving your flashlight (and batteries) to an outer pocket or the top of your pack to make it easier to rotate batteries. You didn't happen to mention what kind of batteries you use. If you're in a cold area, I would recommend Lithium batteries despite the cost. They last longer in storage and work better in the cold then alkaline. Or, use rechargeable batteries of Low Self-discharge type.
Despite the everyday aspect of electronics (including the ham radio) you don't seem to have anything to keep them charged as part of your kit. While your kit is designed for 2 days support under optimal conditions, you could still easily drain battery on say a cell phone. Have you ever travelled through an area where there is no cell service. Quickest way to drain the battery is to leave it searching for service. Of course if you turn it off or in airplane mode and come across a signal you won't know it or pick up any messages that may have been sent to you by family. You could easily add a battery pack of 10k mah for not much space or weight and cable.
Your ham radio looks like a Baofeng with the original battery. Given the suggestion above, you might want to get the USB chargeable battery for it. Since it works as an FM radio and HAM, you would want to keep it charged and not carry around a charging cradle.
There are a lot of molle style bags being carried by men in the wild. Go to any chain gym or college campus. Also, that style bag is just sturdier and more popular with everyone exiting mil service and going to college now. It’s a buy once, cry once bag that is only $50 more than a Jansport or something you see a HS kid replacing every year.
I don't disagree at all that some of those bags are a buy once, and cry once type bag. If you're looking for a true bug out bag or a outdoors/wilderness bag I'd go molle for that route. I'd also agree they are becoming more common place but they still in my opinion do stick out more then a normal backpack which is why I went the route I went. Plus for the purpose I'm using it for I don't need it to take months or years of abuse on hiking trails or doing range work. It's just primarily a bag set up to get from point A to B one time and then it's no longer needed as once I'm at one of the places I'm going I'd have access to much more extensive items.
I'm working on putting one together for my husband's truck. We have all the gear, just haven't packed it up yet.
He has a shoulder bag for his weapons.
That's awesome. Hopefully it packs together smoothly for you guys.
Beanie :) Head covering.... for cold weather/sleeping
I dont think the molle bags are going to draw the attention you think they will. The vast majority of the people have no idea whats going on around them, they dont pay attention to the little things. I have learned this in my 16 years in law enforcement talking to witnesses of crimes.
See my experience has been a bit different. I've always noticed that the witnesses tend to not pay attention to things like that (or at least act like they don't), while the criminals, the smart ones at least, on the other hand always seem to notice changes or difference and things out of the ordinary to take advantage of. That's been my experience at least. Not saying it's a giant "Come and get me" flag using molle but I personally feel like it just sticks out more to people that are looking for things like that.
@@shtfhoneybadger The smart criminals are far and few between if you ask me. I use a common looking Vertx bag I got for free for my truck, but I have a tactical looking bag in my other 2 vehicles. I think if people go with subdued colors like black, its harder to notice them from further away. I like the tactical bags because they are usually better made and can carry loads better.
The best part of this community, is everybody has different things, all people have to do is look around to get a different opinion and see if it will work for them.
I do like your channel, you have great content.
@@PreparedOverlander That I can agree with. They aren't many out there but I'd always take the bet that you run into one of them at the worst time lol. I'd also agree full with the subdued colors being the better option as well. Plus you are spot on. There is always more then one approach and very few are actually wrong approaches. It all has to do with the environments you are operating in. I appreciate the compliment and will be trying to check out some of your videos here as well !
Great info! I would add a knife or multi tool, pepper spray, hat, gloves, cash and a power charger for your phone.
Yeah, I didn't mention it but I do carry a knife and cash as part of EDC so it's something I don't have duplicates of in the bag sense it's on my person. I do keep hats in my truck as well so I don't have a seperate one in the bag sense I already have ones with me. A battery bank would be a good item to have though. I'd personally be cautious with pepper spray though. It's not a 100% effective and it has a nasty habit of exploding in vehicles under certain weather conditions.(I've seen that one first hand)
two is one, one is none. Good fulltang knife is a must in EDC ( or if you're nnot fan of it, even hidden/rat tang are more than enough unless you're going to pry open doors and battoning), goes the same for multitool. i keep one set for EDC, another for GHB.
I was trying to DM you, where are you located? im looking to find a group nearby
I liked the vid , thanks bro !
Subbed up 👍
Thanks for the sub and the compliment! Very much Appreciated.
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You should have 2 good knives hatchet ❓ multi tool.
One thing to add is a 50 gallon garbage bag. One in black and one in orange
There are two of those in the bag that I touched on. The rolled up black items. I just don't have a orange on in there. They are awesome to have though for sure !
Why orange?
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U made excellent points tho good video!!
Glad you think so! Always happy to hear any input.
That's quit a big bag for potentially one day and most likely in an urban setting. Maybe it is more wants than needs for the potential situation? I am assuming that you are prepared at home and likely have more gear in your vehicle so perhaps mobility and speed are more important than garbage bags or multiple days of food?
Maybe a sillcock key? They don't cost much, are small and can be a life saver in any urban hell hole.
Personally I feel like it's relatively minimal compared to what I noticed many people carry but that's just my observation. Ideally this set up or similar would be needed a day or less, but at the same time I'd rather have a bit of extra just incase it needs to stretch longer then that. The excess items are not enough extra weight to make a noticeable difference to me and I think having them is worth the trade off for the little bit of extra weight. The trash bags for example make a great poncho if needed and staying relatively dry when it's snowing or raining makes a heck of a big difference on your ability to keep moving.
I do have a sillcock key in my vehicle, that would get grabbed. It just stays in a more accessible spot then the bag for more normal use.
@@shtfhoneybadger fair enough. I know what you mean about the competitive size of your kit, I have seen "get home bags" based on the ILBE, FILBE, MOLLE 2 large ruck or even the British PLCE that just didn't fit the potential scenario.
Now, I do know people who regularly work 500-1000 miles from home and do pack a very large ruck. That is based on the fact that the area they are in will also consistantly hit and stay well below -40 Celcius for weeks on end and they may need to bunker in before traveling and the trip itself may take months to complete.
I know, an extreme situation that is actually more of a bug out or INCH scenario but the end game is the same-going home!
@@turtlewolfpack6061 I get that to. Those situations exist and some people may need a kit size like that but it's so few people yet so many actually set up big bags like that and they just turn into a hindrance and a loot drop. I'd take a bet that over 75% of people are within 20 miles of their homes all but a few times a year.
@@shtfhoneybadger exactly! It isn't hard, even for me, for 75% of the time to pack less than 5lbs in a 10 liter bag for getting home. Im not going to be comfortable, but that isn't the point.
I get the gray man idea, but in a true SHTF anyone out and about, with or without any type of pack, will be a target, so I place less importance on the gray man idea than other people do. Anyone with any sort of pack/baggage will be a bigger target. Especially since the gray man idea has spread to lots of people.
Yeah, I get that completly. I always figure most situations won't be a full out SHTF situation right off the bat at least so not sticking out will be a benifit. But it's all situational though for sure.
The idea of a bug out bag is for emergencies where you have to leave your home. House fire 🔥 tornado 🌪️ eviction notice 📞 and more! That's why I keep a bag that I could live out of if I had to.
consider things in town you can use to your advantage like truck stop shower 🚿 laundromat 🧺 parks and more.
I've noticed that tactical gear is usually not practical in an ordinary day in the city 🏙️ having something simple and not too extravagant is best. I keep a go bag at home, However a get home bag is fine too. I Cary a bag to work and ride my bicycle so I have a good idea of how I can survive any disaster.
That's a great bag to have and to me that is what makes more sense as a bug out bag. That's not really what you see them usually geared towards though which is why I point more towards a get home bag as a better options. I'm glad you shared your take on it !
I’m in an urban/suburban area, and I see molle equipped packs constantly. The junior High kids that get off the bus down the road have “tactical” backpacks. I see them at the mall. Amazon has flooded the market with $30-$60 “tactical” packs.
Thats good. If you choose to use a molle tactical backpack, you’ll blend in.
I will full say if it blends in in your environment use it. I like molle, I just personally don't see it around enough in my environment.
Hey, that’s a fair response 👍. If you don’t see any in your area having molle could draw attention.
I have all the items for my bag, I just need the bag itself.
Awesome ! I'd just go with a more incognito bag. The more it looks like a school bag or normal backpack the better IMO as it won't stick out as much.
@@shtfhoneybadger Yeah. Thanks. I just want to find a bag that's durable, with a lot of compartments and for a reasonable price.
@@podsmpsg1 That's a 100% understandable. I personally haven't dabbled with Vertex but I know they are pretty well known for setting up some great bags that don't appear tactical. Maybe a good option to look into for ya.
@@shtfhoneybadger Thanks.
Did you know that the tactical equipment company „Tasmanian Tiger“ is a company of Tatonka, a well-known outdoor products manufacturer company?
Tatonka has a lot of different, „normal“ looking backpacks with different backpack carrying systems.
Their top carrying system is called X1-system. Also very good is the Tatonka V2-carryingsystem, which deals with weight over 25 kilograms or 55 lb like the X1-system too.
The Tatonka V-comfort-vario system is for carrying a backpack with less weight (up to 15 kilograms).
The Tatonka Y1-system has specially arranged rods in its carrying construction.
The Tatonka X-Light-Vario carrying system was designed to be as light as possible and is the right choice especially for movement-intensive tours with less luggage.
The Tatonka X-Vent-Zero carrying system offers maximum possible ventilation with minimal contact with the back while the Frame-Vent carrying system is a little bit less maximum ventilation and a little bit more contact with your back.
The Tatonka Vent-Comfort carrying system provides air circulation through a central ventilation channel and an air-permeable AirMesh cover.
So choose the carrying system which fits bests for your needs, body and situation.
I Carry My Fixed Blade Knife With Sheath With Me On My Belt In Case SHTF And Black Military Tactical Assault Backpack And Black Military Tactical Drop Leg Bag In Case SHTF. That's My Bug Out Bag And Get Home Bag.
If im within a couple hour walk from my house n family the only thing all that stuff is gonna do is slow me down. If its that bad out where im leaving my vehicle im getting to my family as quick as i can which means hauling ass. Gimme my edc gun, knife, and flashlight along with a bottle of water n a snickers. All that other stuff is just unnecessary weight. Definitely not stopping to make a fire or purify water
I feel that a 110%. In a perfect world I'd agree. In reality though a couple hours could turn into a day or two, but it's all dependent on situation. I'd say the trade off having a couple extra pounds with the added capability is worth it in case that ugly thing known as Murphy's law pops up.
I hate to say it but no matter what kind of hack you have on whether it's a book bag or a tactical bag... The truth of the matter is if it ever comes down to that point you really think people are going to care what kind of bag you have on no they're going to be interested in what's in that bag bottom line... Just so you know I'm not knocking your video just saying
I think in a worst case scenario that is a 100% accurate and I wouldn't debate it. I do think though in quite a few scenarios in the middle it would help you avoid unwanted attention but it just depends on what you are viewing as the opposition. Over all It's always your call and I think both sides have valid arguments.
@@shtfhoneybadger I agree it's definitely what you would call a double-edged sword
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comment then directly after you include
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This is all assuming the disaster is one where someone is after you and you need to hide, when in reality most disasters you WANT to be seen by first responders and others. Especially during bad weather. So bright colors can save your life.
That's true, It all depends on the situations you may encounter and if it's one where you want to be highly visable. I carry a 3M reflective vest in my vehicle that I can grab if I want to be more visable, I just don't carry it in the bag itself. I'd personally choose subdued colors for gear becaue I perfer to not stick out unless I choose to but that is for sure you're perogative if you want to have items brightly colored.
Knowing your in Nebraska helps me narrow down your location. I’ll run your face from this video through a Nebraska resident facial database.
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To personally shake your hand and thank you for your awesome get home bag tips! Subscribed.
Bag look doesn't matter but if u have a s 70$ bag ur in trouble for a serious situation its ur lifeline..a bag like a cheap bag will fail quickly. A bag is a bag unless it say Louis votton. Don't worry about quailty gear. It'll serve u well!!
I'd say that's fair. I still personally would want to avoid anything attention grabbing but that's just me. And exactly, You don't need anything expensive or fancy, Just something thing the ruggedness to hold up.
I don’t think it matters if it’s a tactical bag or a “normal” bag. In todays times I see so many civilian people using tactical looking bags as everyday bags. Also, if the person is a scum bag he’s gonna try and take what you have no matter what kind of bag you have.
Personally I'd still avoid it but that's just my viewpoint on it. In the end it's not going to stop a bad person from doing bad things, it just would be another way that could help ya get a bit less noticied.
Anyone carrying any kind of kit in an SHTF situation is gonna be a target. Molly on your bag isn’t going to make a difference in that situation. As to the day to day, I don’t think it matters either. If you see these cities with their rash of smash and grab crime, they don’t look closely at the bag they steal. They see a dark lump, break the window, grab anything they see and run. In all the videos I’ve seen, none of the bags stolen looked tactical at all.
The bag Being visible and accessible along with looking like a tourist and having no situational awareness is all that seems to matter.
Criminals aren’t as discerning as people seem to think they are.
No tarp or rain gear hello hypothermia
its not Molle that is problem, but the size of backpack; i have small (20L or so) tactical pack, and no one fret about it, but when i carry my bigger one (50 and 80 liters), all eyes are on me, Military pack or hiking one, its all the same. as long as you're not running around in full plate carrier, matching BDU, oversized pack and "assault rifle" in hands, people wont even notice you. i like your GHB; no nonsense, practical bag that will help you get back home. at least you didnt try to do "BOB" or INCH bags; its just a utter bullshit to think that one can carry everything they need to survive in hostile environment in their BACKPACKS !!!
I would say that is a fair point as well. I still think Molle bags stick out more then a non-molle bag but it depends on your area. Molle is becoming more mainstream in some areas. And I agree with you fully about BOB. They have a place but I think people want to carry everything except the kitchen sink in them and that's just asking for problems, specially when most people would never need to bug out and trying to bug out if you don't have to is asking for a disaster.
There is a nice guidance text at the Heinnie Haynes website (online shop from Cardiff, United Kingdom) I like to read and let me quote it:
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PALS (Pouch Attachment Ladder System) is a grid of webbing invented and patented by the United States Army.
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MOLLE packs (modular lightweight load-carrying equipment) is the current rucksack for most military units.
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In summary essentially PALS is the webbing and MOLLE is the attachment. If you have PALS webbing you can use MOLLE attachments.
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Get real. Most SHTF scenarios are those where you need to shelter at home from a natural disaster.
I agree. If you happen to not be home when stuff occurs though you need the supplies to get there 🤷♂️
That’s the whole point of the bag. Could be something as simple as a car breakdown, waiting for recovery in freezing cold with no ability to turn engine on can be at best uncomfortable, at worst live threatening. I was stuck for a couple of hours. Improvised and used a yoga mat and Xmas hat to keep warm.
used to be; when angry mob is burning down buildings "bug in" isnt option no matter ho much guns and ammo you have. and we aint far from that kind of major SHTF events im afraid.
@@ApocGuy Very true. One more reason its good to keep a get home bag light, you’ll want to be light on your feet, agile, and may need to squeeze between stuff or hide behind objects. Hard to do with a large heavy backpack.
Getting real w mendy👍 got it !