Problem with Sky, Returning after long time [Sky: Children of The Light]
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- Опубліковано 20 вер 2024
- Hey guys, how you all doing? I am sorry as I quit sky couple of years back as I just lost all the energy and vibe with the game. I have been coming in game from time to time but never regularly, but looking at the recent news and me playing often I just wanted to share my views of the game. Also many people didnt had idea of starting phase of sky and its vision.
There is lot to say and this is just portion of it. Hopefully i may have energy in future to make videos about sky.
Anyway please let me know the changes in the game and how it has affected you and playerbase? Also some of the big things I missed.
Have a great day.
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When a game makes you afraid to skip a day no matter what, you know it's bad. Like someone else said, the FOMO and constant grinding are seriously bad for mental health.
FRRR, I had gotten burnt out on sky for a LONG time and when I came back it was like a flashbang 😭
They need that momentum or else no one will play anymore. You know how fast people will quit and move onto other games? I understand why TGC does it, even if I don't like it.
@@KE-yq2eg yeah, but they could do it WAY better in a way more profitable way, if they did seasonal stuff that expanded on the story of the game or did a major update once a year instead of all of the overlapping stuff it could the community more time to prep thus encouraging natural traction, they're hurting their own income in the long-run because everyone who pays to play will get burnt out and stop playing eventually. Their marketing strategy is all wrong. :(
@@KE-yq2eg FOMO can be understandable until a certain point....for collabs,It is KINDA understandable since copyright and all. But even then,many mobile games and others,still Will try to do a Re-run of those collab cosmetics,even if It is after a few years. It still Will be a FOMO,but It Will be way less damaging. However TGC won't even try on the slightlest to rerun anything. Always everything, EVERYTHING...limited time this...limited time that...only avaible during...and then old players Will flex those old items and just at the end of the day,create more damage than anything.
You can have FOMO and still make It less damaging. TGC however decides that the easiest solution is...watch us get burntout!
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The only youtube ad I’ve ever given even a single drop of attention was when, instead of a loud song and clearly fake gameplay, I saw a peaceful landscape, with winged characters flying holding hands. Not only did the game actually look real, it looked *good*. So when I saw the name “Sky: Children of the Light”, I started following it. I tried playing it on my phone, but didn’t really like the way the controls worked, so I decided to wait for the pc release. This was years ago. Sometimes, I still see a Sky ad. Except it isn’t like that anymore. It’s still leagues above any of those fake ads, but it’s clearly trying to emphasise its content, rather than its experience. I hope that by the time the full steam version releases, it’ll have improved for me to experience the Sky the way the veterans have, all those years ago, in all its glory
The full steam version has released
The game is already on steam actually
because sky is live service it will always be labeled as early access on steam. it fully released in april
A. Well, I’ll be playing it a lot earlier than expected then. Thanks for the heads up, I was going to be waiting eternally for it to release lol
You sort of still can actually. It’s open world. But you could also play Journey if you want
One of the thing Sky is missing is lore. There are so many collaborations but after 4 years of gaming I know nothing about the world except somebody came and die. I want to explore history in the game , not explore it in Wikipedia, you know what I mean…
The season of prophecy was a major boon for prince lore and also for gaming experience, I think something significant like that would be a move forward
Atleast the upcoming animated series will give us tons of lore🙏🙏. That won't be released until next year, though...😢
Yeah, they tried to add some lore with Shattering but it was done incredibly poorly in game, with zero explanation, and extremely vaguely overall...
this is so real. honestly of most criticism of sky from long time players this video is the best, as a long time player myself
I feel like what sky needs is a bit of lore. Like yeah, we have some kind of story, but they are mostly for seasons, take duets for example. Sky needs some lore for its base game. Like why is eden here? What happened to its elder?
And the lore doesn't need to be so complicated, it can be simple, but made effectivley. And besides that, they really need to listen to the complains on the pricing. Some IAP stuff aren't even THAT breath-taking to cost real money.
This! We need a break from all these events, its really draining. Like give us a bit of storytelling that can reward us with waxes/hearts to keep us engaged!
yess!! there actually is sky lore, but sadly it isn't really explored in-game :( I do find the lore very interesting tho...
I agree completely, like the other comment said, there *is* lore but you have to search across the entire internet to find it. There's some lore on Discord, Tumblr, even UA-cam, but none of it is actually in the game.
I just hope more of the lore would be revealed. Tho the collab seasons are putting a pause on sky doing an actual lore season. But from some past seasons, we've gathered that Ancestors mined crystals and used it to create machines and harvested Light from light creatures. That their actions caused the Dark to spread, and there was a war. The shields in the battlefield during aurora concert have two separate symbols, one of which is the diamond thats everywhere in sky and might be the symbol of eden elder, so likely a war between a king and revolutionists. We dont have info yet on the giant crystal in eden and what exactly eden elder did and etc etc. I hope after moomin season we get more lore
Genuinely, this comment is about the many unexplained things that happen in Sky, the many buildings left untouched that we never get to learn anything about. The fact that the only lore we're beginning to get is from outside sources (The Two Embers and the Art Book) and not the game itself is starting to get tiring. What's the point in having a storyline when you don't even care to show the world it takes place in.
you get it!
I started during aurora and basically quit this summer. it was just gonna be a break because I had a lot going on but getting some distance to the game I realised how unhealthy it had been to me. the fomo and daily grind and no friends to hang out with besides candle running.
Started playing around your time, then stopped playing last sunmer. Now im playing it again and my love for sky has been rekindled
I started around the same time. I stopped last month. I sometimes go back to see friends, but nothing much more anymore.
@@jol4527 i almost have the same experience, started during august of last year and played regularly, i stopped around november i think, and picked it up again when they released it on steam, because my partner wanted to play it
I really feel this video. Been playing since little prince. I think the biggest issue with the community is how old season cosmetics such as owl hair are such a flex,and new players or those who didn't have an iOS device now have the fear of missing again such cosmetics and feel left out of the community.... which is sad. Then the bugs and glitches are horrid. Recently, one of the last seasons I was farming really hard,then...had the last two weeks with a bug where I couldn't see misions or my daily pass candle. I felt scammed. When I tried to contact TGC,instead of helping me or compensating me for THEIR mistake,thet just kept responding me why and when the bug happened..Cool .. I Guess? But I couldn't care less...I lost an Ultimate reward due their incompentence. TGC and the community are gonna kill this game. Specially with all this FOMO and flex of old limited cosmetics. People is scared,they don't wanna miss on cool stuff anymore. But this is burning them.
EDITED: a typo ajhshsh
I joined since Season of Sanctuary and I also felt this video so much and just been on and off the game. the player controls are pretty bad but it was so beautiful and the ost was great. But then it just became a collecting game and even my friends were just competing over getting the newest capes/emotes and I didn't have enough time or care for the capes. i just liked the parkour/flying gameplay and exploration. But the bugs and glitches were never fixed so I quit now
Originally, when I started this game about 5 years ago, I didn’t even know what candles were. The ending made me CRY. I felt to connected. Now, I feel like the spirit tasks are repetitive and there isn’t any NEW content. They release new capes and maps but you just keep following the same pattern. I would like to see another huge story arc in the game for players that beat the eye of Eden. Maybe we figure out some secrets about Eden or maybe a new goal is created, not completing daunting tasks, but instead feeling like the tasks develop the story. I mean, the idea of the game is so lovely but there needs to be more, to the adventure, story, spirits and understanding of the darkness. With their new push for cosmetics, I can see that it’s less focused to developing a story and it’s more focused on getting profit. I have fallen into buying stuff on this game even in early seasons, but, it was because I WANTED too. They didn’t push it so much and the whole idea of getting them was less stressful. I remember the seasons were longer and less destructive on mental health.
fr the game needs a new arc so bad! I want to give it a chance and wait for two embers + two embers season. There might be a possibility for the story to continue.
after 4 years (started at the end of sanctuary) I'm legit so tired of boring seasons. boring ult gifts. spirits full of furniture and little cosmetics... it's sad
god- as a veteran who's paid for stuff, and played for about 3 years you've hit the nail on the head :""
even after grinding non stop for months so I can stay stocked up on candles I feel as if I'm forced to not stop playing. and being forced to buy seasons just to be able to cool cosmetics or then bring locked behind such an expensive paywall is the worst.
even when paying for a seasonal pass they make the prices high so that you're forced to keep playing for so long :/
and plus you're absolutely correct- they never give us little to anything story-wise when it comes to the aftermath of eden, or anything regarding the spirits. the closest we got was season of shattering and even then it didn't do that good of a job of giving anything lore-wise.
which again sucks because I absolutely love exploring the lore of sky and kinda devastated when they don't give us anything new.
I just wish sky wasn't becoming a money-grubbing thing, since the reason why I stayed was because of the overall magical experience I was given the first time I played, and even so now when playing with new people or friends. :// breaks my heart to see sky become like this
yeahh originally i stayed in sky for the lore and story and cosmetics were a plus. but it feels like in story or lore, they aren't doing anything much or just leaving all of the story for the animated series part, which makes sky only left with cosmetics. it revolves around cosmetics so much now it seems. I've stopped paying for anything now. I'm waiting to see if they try anything new and break their cycle
@@tkak4 yeah I agree with this statement- actually one of the reasons why I kept paying for cosmetics was because I knew there was a sky movie / show coming out
id been wanting a show / movie to come out ever since I started playing this game because I loved the cutscenes in game
but honestly after the movie / show comes out I'm not sure if I'm continue giving tgc my money 😔 cosmetics are becoming more and more expensive these days, and I'm not about to pay for another cape / cosmetics that cost over 20+ dollars :/
Yea, honestly I think a plunge into a whole new arc that’s hard for even the veterans would be so cool. The spirits with cosmetics like AURORA all have the same pattern. Complete task- unlock more map- get items. I want to see the world not just develop physically, but there be a bigger story building. There is also so many other cool things you could do instead of these DRAWN out TASKS that seasonal spirits give you. Even if you finish every daunting task, there’s still a NEED to get candles for them. Also, they should make a new way to earn candles. Flying around the map nonstop is frustrating when it’s the same over and over. Maybe there could be like- 6-7 candles (normal candles not Eden candles) after you beat Eden. It’s not much, but it would be a step into a less expensive experience. Also, I think there is SO much that is missing. We have lore so far, which was fun to explore but I’d love to learn how Eden came to be, is there any way to stop the darkness completely? What lies beyond Eden? Honestly, just a completing arc instead of frustrating seasonal spirits would be so cool. The man who created this is incredibly smart and I know FOR A FACT could come up with some unreal and unexpected way to make the story continue. There’s so many deep moments you could add and surprises. It’s like how in Eden, you were surprised when you lost all your wings. Maybe, you could lose something else like maybe the masks could be cracked. And then we find out everything about sky children, yknow?
I don’t see it as a social game or as an exploration game and not even as a relaxation game. I see it as a collection game. Collect wax to collect cosmetics. If you want the really nice cosmetics, TGC collects your money.
Its strange but grinding kinda relaxes me. I suppose this game is like cigarettes in that way 😅😅😅
i started playing sky because i was unwell and wanted to experience something calm and chill, but after 3 months of playing and with my anxious personality, Sky started hurting me
Funny because they said they wanted to avoid fomo when the game was first released but now is capitalising on that aspect?
I wish people watched more interviews about tgc when they first started and actually look at how money hungry they’ve become
You could nowdays replace the word "fomo" with Sky 😅😢
One thing that really irks me on top of all Sky’s increasing iap items are the limited edition capes that grant access to new areas in the game.
The aurora cape is still purchasable and fairly easy to find someone with the cape to take you to it and the nine coloured deer cape grants a feature that enhances a nice area but that area is still accessible without it. The Little Prince aviator cape however, has an entirely separate and unique experience locked behind it and I don’t know a single person who forked up the $30 or so CAD to get it so that’s just a whole wondrous and fun substantially large part of the game barred from almost every player and for what?
Edit: I thought aurora was still purchasable but went and checked and was wrong. Side note, I have one Little Prince aviator cape spell left and I've been holding onto it for a hangout with friends or smthn
The aurora cape and little prince cape are not purchasable anymore.
They made those capes accessible for free during the anniversary ...saw the Prince area for the first time (I started playing season of Abyss)
those 3 can't be bought anymore though
I think the bottom line in all of this is, if you take a break from sky and miss several seasons in that absence, it’s going to be an almost impossible feat in returning back to sky, and catching up on past season’s TS and cosmetics/items. It’s just too overwhelming for most. Best to just do the next season coming up, if you’ve returned, and go from there. And get acclimated to all the new changes that occurred in Sky, during your long break. Collect your candles, and buy off TS when they come, one TS at a time. Also, you don’t have to BUY or COLLECT everything you missed in the past. Just get what you can afford, and what speaks to you. The FOMO is mind over matter. It’s all in your head. Once you get past that mental block, you’re able to play Sky game at your pace, and enjoy it too. There’s no need to "impress or flex" in Sky. 0r feel badly by those who do this. Everyone, new and old, has their own journey, their own path to follow, regardless where they are in Sky. No need to be intimidated by those in "glorified cosmetics" that you don’t have or own. The fact of the matter is, most players, if not all players are struggling to keep their head above water, and paddling like heck to keep afloat and maintain. The only way to beat the system, or stay ahead is to be a regular player, so to speak. But by no means, It’s not the end of the world, if you aren’t a regular Sky game player. Just enjoy it however way suits you, and breathe. 🤗💖👍
Well said!
I agree! 👏❤️
Also hey Austy! :D
@@NallenRoseoooooohhhhh, Hiiiiiiii Nallen!!!! Hehehehe!!!! Small world huh!!!! 💖💖💖🤗🤗🤗
I tried to do that and it's a very good way to go about the game and avoiding burnout ❤.
I quit twice, but regretted due to the ultimate rewards really speaking to me. And to be able to afford those, you'll HAVE to play daily. I genuinely like the game, but I'll have to get over that mental block.
I take breaks from Sky all the time. It just stops being fun if you feel like you have to log in every day. Now, i play when there are particular cosmetics I want or if I just want to play something chill.
I've been playing sonce 2020 when Sky came to Android and followed it for like a year before that. This game was so important to me. I struggle a lot with making connections, and Sky made it so easy to find people to talk to and become actual friends.
But it started crumbling when the issues with the overpriced ia purchases came. I dont care that for collaborations, you have to make separate items available for real money, but now you can't even get one nice cosmetic without the season pass.
It used to be evenly distributed between season candles and season pass with the super unique items as ultimate reward.
I also feel like the core story of Sky is completely forgotten.
As much as I will never attempt the fire trial again, season of prophecies had me so engaged. It was interesting, challenging and just so intriguing. I miss that so much.
My friend constellations also don't light up much anymore
FOMO in this game is horrendous. Bugs and glitched with lack of compensation is laughable. I saw in the mail they sent us a measly 15 candles with a couple seasonal candles and AC and wow, I'd rather not get anything at this point. Its humiliating. The visuals in this game are my favourite and some of the cosmetics they introduce are very nice but I am questioning if I should even spend for a company that gives no care to their community.
It used to be lively and cozy..
Now it's empty and cold...
I miss everything.
for me as a veteran player of 5 years i took a long break but i love the game a came back about a year ago and spend most of my time helping new players. i do my best to help them feel wonder most of them leave but it is how I play sky and it is the reason i stay the connections i make is what is important too me and makes me want to stay. The wonder and beauty is still there I take great joy in helping others find it. ( sorry for bad grammar)
I am a new player who came to Sky after the release of the game on PC, but I already feel the problem of grinding. I am so sorry that I missed out on so many events and seasons in the game, because I could not play on other devices. And now I am forced to collect all the candles every day like crazy and save them, because I am AFRAID that I will not have the opportunity to buy something from traveling spirits. Now 4 t-spirits came at once and I was insanely excited, because, contrary to popular opinion, I like the atmosphere of this dark season and location. But when I realized how many candles are needed to buy all these cosmetics from spirits, I was horrified. Now I literally feel fear that if I do not log into the game for at least a day or miss even one candle out of 20 daily, I risk missing my chance to buy something that will be from a spirit who will only come for 3 days and who can then disappear for several years. It's really frustrating.. If I had some candle stock like an old player, and if I wasn't so attached to the spirits because I was a participant in the previous events and seasons, I wouldn't feel this crazy pressure.
When I first came to the game, I was in love with it and felt new emotions that games haven't given me for a long, long time. But now it literally seems almost unbelievable to me that just a few months ago I could just play musical instruments for hours, walk around the world or relax in picturesque locations, without thinking about the fact that in 10 minutes I need to run to Geyser or Granma. When I finish my candle run, I'm too tired or I just don't have time for this game. And it upsets me.
Honestly, I have an income and I can afford to spend money on an in-game item if I want to. So the donation issue doesn't scare me so much, although it is really sad when there are SO many microtransactions in the game. I think a lot of the prices are really high and TGC would make a lot more profit if they made the prices more affordable, simply because people would buy them a lot more often. I think you would happily buy the 5th anniversary cape if it cost two or three times less, because it was a wonderful, memorable event. But in the end, very few people made that purchase. Including me, I did not buy the cape, despite the fact that I was IN LOVE with the atmosphere of the festival and all its events.
But what really scares me is the grind and the fear of not collecting candles. I hardly pay attention to the beauty around me, I only think about distributing my time and energy to collect wax. When I do tasks and something funny happens that makes me spend more time (for example, when players are fooling around or not opening 8-candles door or when you try to bring a spirit among the krillas, etc.) I do not want to have fun, use emotions and experience unique situations with players. I just want to menacingly raise my voice and tell them, hey, stop wasting my time! And this is very sad.. The magic of the game is still alive for me. But since I am a new player, it will be very difficult for me to reach that point where the lack of candles stops scaring me. And unfortunately I can not say what will happen first - reaching this point of calm or my burnout.
I can help you. I will farm for you. I was like you: I had to farm 22c each day in the first year 365 days each single day: to get back all I’ve lost. Now I farm basic 20 in less than 2 hours. This game requires a lot of patience, daily diligence and time, or just renounce the cosmetics. And all these iap now seriously with Moomin it’s gonna be very expensive and I’m tired of this 100€ iaps and 30€ for one broom 🧹 . Enough is enough.
Honestly same, you explained how I feel about Sky so well, I'm a nesting moth and it's being only months since I started to play this game and I'm already tired of all the grinding thing. It is so tiring, and now I'm grinding 20 candles everyday to be able to buy the cosmetics I want from the 4 shattering spirits only to see that next Thursday we gonna have another ts, genuinely what the fuck TGC?? I don't remember the last time I stopped to play like o used to when I was a moth, when I was enjoying the game and wasn't stressed bc all of the ecosystem TGC made. The only times I relax in sky is when I'm playing with my friend who is a moth and only plays sky to pass some time with me so they aren't stressed over candles and they tell me "hey take me to that place I like" and we just sit there talking and enjoying the place. But I just can't do that by myself bc the FOMO is horrendous in this game. It is so funny how TGC shows sky like this chill cozy game where you can have friends and connect with people and the way the game actually is made is to suck every last dollar out of our wallets. I was so excited for the Moomin season then saw what is happening on beta with the IAPs and season pass and I'm just so disappointed. And you know what?? There is a website named "Dark Pattern Games" that shows you if a game has some dark patterns (obviously) to take your money or make you addicted, etc and sky shows in that website as "bad/really bad" (I don't remember correctly) but yeah this is absolutely a cozy game, trust guys!!
I ve played for about 2½years now... and feel exactly the same, I thought maybe I could ease off a bit but no they introduced the furniture 😢 just overwhelm. (Decided not to bother)
Can't imagine what the games like for newbies.
The IAPs are overpriced and agree, many more would but if they were half the amount or less.
I would, the conversion of US$ to UK£ is unfair...actually makes them MORE expensive for me. I don't buy. Merch is overpriced and I waited MONTHS to reiver order.
Never gwt time to make acquaintances or play music. I play with an alt twin because server splits ruin continuity.
(Also one horrible player puy me right off plus its hard to maintain friend coordination)
@@AsiLII88 only problem that the owner of this video deleted my comment bcz I said I want help this new player. Wtheck! 💩👿👹
commenting for more engagement. Well said, brother! This is exactly how i feel about the current state of sky too. It's sad how everyone's already losing their excitement for the moomin season with the full snufkin set taking 3 IAPs... And it's even extra sad when most players already suspect buying an irl moomin plushie will be cheaper than an IAP one. that's when you know there's a problem.... it really is a shame, because i've wanted a moomin collab since day 1
For a game posing as a place to relax and socialize, it gives you no time to do that out of fear of missing out on scheduled things. As I said in their official discord, this game is run by currency. If you don't have enough candles, hearts, etc... say goodbye to EVER getting something that you felt like you wanna get... pertaining to the ultimate gifts. Instead of those gifts being a symbol of hard work born from your own time, it becomes a symbol of "I obeyed the rules so I got this item cause TGC's time is precious". Anyway, I've said a lot more well thought out stuff somewhere and have given up on thinking it might have some kind of effect on this game's future.
I feel like sky forgets that this game play ALL aged players. Adults are busy with daily works and studies, while kids and students can't afford beautiful or amazing stuffs since most good stuffs are IAP
i’ve played since sanctuary but started seriously playing during flight…i think moomin will be my last season personally because it’s too hard to keep up and with all these iaps , it’s insane and honestly disappointing like…it used to be fun but now it’s tiring to the point i gotta FORCE myself to play and it shouldn’t feel that way
after the Abyss season I was 100% sure they would start making existing maps cooler by adding underwater areas to every level, especially places with lots of water like Forest. Two? Three? Years later and the ONLY things we get are the Sanctuary trench and maybe one underwater tunnel in each new seasonal area. Honestly, it’s getting embarrassing seeing how empty some of the old areas are when compared to the seasonal areas. They have got to update more areas, and STOP updating the coliseum!! Seriously, we don’t need another coliseum re-skin!
Ikr, I thought the same thing.
I was irked in the first place when they changed the colosseum from clouds to ice. Just like you said the old areas feel so old. Wish they would update the old places.
you explained it so well! sky feels empty sometimes, but then i distance myself from the community and play solo or with my closest friends and that spark exists again. i will definitely recommend weekly rewards in feedback
here you go, we oldies know its hard to stick to it as much as before, its a constant burn out with all our life requirements and our self requirements even when it comes to entertaining, sky might not be our first choice anymore and i think that's okay , im totally fine with all the things im missing as long as i can still sometimes go in and hover around to get some sense of something, no massive grinding just actually chilling
I joined sky to play with few of my online friends but they abruptly shifted to another game (genshin) so I continued to play , the experience was beautiful, even though alone I enjoyed doing old seasons , but few seasons in recent just don't sit right.... Aurora was cool it was well done also added the lore we initially wanted to see like the wasteland one. Season of Shattering was even though I am an old player was my first complete season was cool too . But this game rather than opening new areas should reconstruct the old ones with lore , like wasteland , in the end accordingly our goal was to give our light but it doesn't change anything (after the main game) eden still exists , the eden elder is still not United to the others , I used to visit sky to play music when I would feel depressed and sad , it always will be a game I fully enjoyed and loved , the focus is shifted from the exploration part to mere spirit lore that unlock places players barely visit with virtual cosmetics with insane prices that does not improve the in-game goal
I quit sky for more than 2 years too and came back, and I agree this is exactly what it feels.
It was always about the lore and the friends. Always, at least for me. I still only run Eden sometimes because I like to savor the experience. My favorite realm is Isle of Dawn because it is still pristine. I hate player creations sometimes. XD
As a two-year veteran who's played almost every day since I got it, it helped me so much. But I've always played to help others, spirits or real players. I want to help others and enjoy the peace which is so rare in this world.
Maybe someday, I will come back to Sky and fly through the Wind Paths and remember my first time ever flying. It felt like a dream.
Thank you for this video.
The new quest system is so stupid I can only laugh - so instead of conveniently getting all our quests from the prayer stone, we have to walk up to individual spirits… and they call this increasing player engagement with the characters… but TGC has been randomly using “relive this spirit memory” as a very average boring grind quest for YEARS. How exactly are we supposed to suddenly get emotionally invested in the spirits you’re using for grinding?
The only spirits I’ve ever felt an emotional connection with was the Remembrance season. That was a fantastic, heartbreaking story with a bit of lore that we don’t always get from Sky.
that's why i have home be the original home and not aviary village, you don't have to get the quests from aviary village, you can still go to the prayer stone in the old home
I go back to old home just to get the quests and to turn them in, the seats next to the spirits make me sit rather than get the quests
:( You really hit the point on this one
The first thing I thought when I got sick and couldn’t play for 2 days was how much candles I couldn’t get. That is when I realized, holy shi wtf am I doing. And just started to have lots of breaks and just accept, if I can get it okay, if I can’t then it’s okay too
i do hope they make some amazing changed. im always willing to come back. i got tired of the routine, or having completed everything that the game could offer and also achieve many personal goals and so i left for a while now, but I will always see it is as a comfort home to go back to
Definitely felt this! Recently came back in June after playing as a little kid 4ish years ago. I have definitely felt way more pressure regarding cosmetics. Of course, it has been awhile, but from what I recall, I just… fit in. I loved sky. I was highly bullied, so it was a place I felt an escape, where I met people who genuinely cared and were great people. It fully served its purpose back then. Don’t get me wrong, especially with the new days of moonlight, I’ve actually met a lot of people waiting for light the past couple of days, but overall? No one is really active at all anymore. We are all (myself included, I can’t say I’m not guilty) just trying to complete our missions to get light and therefore cosmetics. I could sit down at any bench and speak to someone back in 2019-2020ish. Now it’s nearly impossible to find anyone to connect with or even help you open a door. It’s really wild how much the game has changed. It’s still one of my favorites, but the grinding is killing me. I feel like my love for this game is definitely half gone despite it being one of the only things in my childhood that allowed me to escape bullying, abuse, and other hardships. It was home and comfort for me. Now I spend too long each day just looking for light to seek out a new cosmetic to fit.
I realized when I show up for a game every day but don’t for my health goals…. There’s a problem.
4.5 yr daily player here: while I definitely agree with a lot of what you said and absolutely have my own grievances with the game...I really think the game is what the player makes of it.
If the player goal is to get cosmetics and having that FOMO, yes...the grind is forefront.
I like to play to just chill away from IRL. If I'm bored, I'll hang out in prairie...ushering moths around. I'll put up a soccer game in random places and get a game going. Throw a table up in forest to chat with people. Krill myself down to 1 star...just because.
Recently friended a new person, who didn't understand why I was just hanging out at home in a table with randoms vs doing a cr. I think the issue is we are used to having games that have an end. Because Sky is endless...TGC is trying to create a goal (seasons/events/cosmetics) to keep players interested, when sometimes we have to entertain ourselves.
agree! its up to you if you want to grind to get new cosmetics. i rarely get new stuff as i've found an outfit that I like and stick too, and prefer to focus more on instruments. i also started playing in 2020 during quarantine and took like a 2.3 year break because i was getting addicted to the grind playing everyday back then. most of my sky friend group is gone, but i've made some new friends and try to appreciate the beauty of the world that got me interested in the game in the first place. so yeah, it really depends on how you want to experience the game. you really don't have to buy anything, although i understand when they put out cosmetics that you really want and you basically have no access to, it sucks. i really wonder if they'll stick to the pricing on moomin that they have on beta or if they will change it based on people's complaints, but idk.
@@zimitraa Most people will want new stuff and new experiences in games. In most games you can either get new areas and story to explore throughout the game, you get new skills, weapons, spells, etc. and throughout playing a game you will usually earn enough money doing all these other activities (doing quests, selling items) to buy new cosmetics anyway or you just have to grind a little bit to save up. I love that you guys are able to enjoy the game besides cosmetics and don't have that need for new stuff, however that is because you make the experience enjoyable. Frankly speaking the only new content this game offers *is* the new cosmetics and like maybe 15 minutes of new story in an entire season. Personally I think it shouldn't be up to the players to make a videogame enjoyable, but the storytelling and actions should do that. If most of the players end up feeling fomo to this extreme of an extent, it isn't the players' fault but that of the game.
@@soulangela7154 I agree wholeheartedly, they really need to shift from cosmetics (or at least limited edition cosmetics especially) to storyline and lore/ quests and stuff. If you really think about other games that also value exploration and experience, usually they are open world, which ok, sky can't do, but they do work around it with gates and stuff, and they also have a strong main quest which takes a bit to complete, as well as a ton of side quests which are actually interesting and fun. For me personally in other games (like Skyrim and the legend of Zelda for example) I get super carried away from all the side quests and exploring that it takes me a while to finish the main quest.
All this of course might just have to do with the type of game and it might not be able to change. I do believe they can work around it though, by adding more to the main lore and quests.
Sky was at its best for me when I was a moth, when everything was new, wonderful and beautiful.
I have seen many moths quit after their first Eden run, they are the lucky ones. They get to end their experience with a beautiful and satisfying ending.
But the rest of us foolish enough to remain? We suffer the grind, and allow ourselves to be controlled by FOMO.
The only way you can be free from the grind, is to release yourself from the cycle, and allow yourself to be free from the game.
😮you are so right, exploration was a major thing back in the day in sky, eventually they blocked of the tricks and that sucks. It was fun showing moths around and teaching them different things
Seasons and events are what makes the grind less boring, but with the new season having all the characters sucked out of the season pass and made into IAPS aswell as the remaining season pass being watered down with boring furniture I don’t see how TCG expects us to keep enjoying this game. i really loved this game before. Thank u for sharing your voice! Not a lot of people dare to speak out
It's just a dress-up game at this point lol there is no other "gameplay" than candle running. They could preserve some of the functions from events to make the world feel less dead...
Every sky player needs to watch this video
Honestly the day I burn out and stop playing will me a good day. I started this April, am interested in the Halloween stuff and Moomin, but after that ehhh
I started playing sky during the Season of Enchantment event. and officially quit sometime around Season of Aurora.
I remember playing the game for up to 6 hours every single day. I loved it to bits, and i remember when all the candle farming was done i would keep trying to play more. I had a lot of fond memories of sky, which are now all bittersweet.
my fallout with sky happened when i realized the game only kept you playing through grinding. It was a never ending cycle once you finished the main story. I realized my friends would only get on to candle farm. Up to 6 people would hold hands and just go afk while the main pilot would collect candles. After a while, naturally this got very stale. Even though the game held a very special place in my heart, i started to grow distant from it. And no matter how many times i attempted to get back into the game it just never really worked.
I've been playing since nesting, the frustration with the overpricing could kill this game for many when they've stress cosmetics so heavily. I want to say they're worth it and support where I can but £20 for one cape alone? why not make 2-3 good capes each event or season and sell them at £10? It looks like their team is talented and even big enough to handle designing some and I feel like they would make more money and keep players coming back and satisfied. The monetization doesn't fit the games vibe, it feels like gacha shenanigans.
I was someone who really really loved the monotony of Sky, it was relaxing for me to have my friends and all the quests I knew exactly what to do and stuff I could collect at my own pace! And then a new season came around… and another… and another… and eventually I couldn’t remember where anything was or keep up with the cosmetics or even finish the seasons or the new quest required more than one person and then suddenly Sky required planning and sorting out with friends when everyone would be online to do multi-person quests and… yeah. I still keep it on my iPad, but every time I pick it up I’m bashed with all the new stuff and the knowledge that the NEXT new stuff is already coming and I am never going to catch up because the game will always be updating faster than I can play.
I still want to pick it up, maybe one day I will. I really like my cute little child, and remember fondly sitting in odd places to watch people or find a secret spot to play my only musical instrument secretly. I had so many good conversations with friends on there, both silly and serious, even just laying around listening to the ambiance together.
Honestly? I would be fine if there was a suite of “pay only” cosmetics to keep the game afloat and a new season only coming out once a year. Slow and beautiful with routines and friends.
it's been 2 years already that im leaving sky. I have no friends because most of my friend were burnout...either me. But sometimes, i miss the memories. I felt lonely and empty feeling, try to making friends with stranger but not working because sky nowadays is different...
My brother and I grinded for a week or two so that we would have enough candles to get some of the days of color items. Just recently, ever since he and I found out the season of shattering spirits were coming back, we grinded for a long time. Even now, after the spirits arrived, I STILL need to grind to get at least 2 more of the cosmetics I want. Not to mention the butterfly hair accessory costed 50 freaking candles...Then there's the "days of" events where you need to log on everyday to get the tickets for new cosmetics, otherwise they'll cost waaaay too many hearts or candles next year. I also missed out on season of passage because of how burnt out I was with the game. The grinding can be so bad sometimes.
I returned after 2 years, felt happy when random friends stil remembered me. But most are offline now. Met new amazing people again:)
My favourite part of Sky was the first couple of playthroughs becaus the exploration was my favourite part. Id love new maps rather than just small sub areas being introduced for the seasons, and items that actually add to the gameplay rather than just cosmetics. (Even items that are standard in other games, like something to set an extra teleport point, or a backpack to hold more than 1 item on your back is missing from Sky)
Welcome back 🎉
I'd wish the break between the seasons were longer
Welcome back! 🥺🥺🥺 Yeah thank you for voicing out our frustrations over 4 years now, it's so exhausting. iap are too much now
What an awful time to come back 😔
6:27 haha! The guy sitting on the right of the other employee looked and sounded like he just woke up or was not feeling it at all.
Literally when it is his turn to talk his first response was "I don't think I understand the question". Maybe Sky has burned him out?
Thanks for saying what I have been thinking lol, I started halfway through Season of Enchantment, stopped playing halfway through Aurora, came back after two years and while I play on and off.... man, It's just really bad now huh? It's given me extreme FOMO and encouraged my abandonment issues when i first played, recognized it and I quit. I thought it was bad then. It's definitely worse now xP
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Very wise. I too left the Game a few times and seeing all I missed it's always like: man....and of course the coolest things are forever unobtainable!
I am an Android veteran and after (above) 4 years i can say that doing daily is quite boring and playing every single day is tireing.. But even tho i still love sky and it's atmosphere
I started playing in early December 2021 and sky has changed so much and honestly it’s not fun anymore. The amount of seasons is so tiring and I miss when there was 2 months between seasons. For me the game started going downhill when the aviary season came out because it was basically nothing. And the amount of IAP cosmetics has become insane like look at the Moomin season there are 6 IAP and you can’t complete any character outfit without them. And the downgrade of spirits to mannequins in seasons is sad and we are getting less and less emotes. But even with all that I feel like I can’t quite or stop participating in seasons because of FOMO and because of how much money I have spent on the game. I just miss how it was during dream and assembly🥲
i dont keep any expectations from collabs. collabs mean, many things behind payment and broken into bits now. but aviary felt new to me. I felt like it slowly went downhill after aurora. but aviary brought new furnishing or something else for players to focus on instead of just cosmetics. but sadly the furnishings also seem to be pretty limiting with what all we can do
@@tkak4 I personally didn’t even participate in the nest season because I don’t really have any interest in the nest or any furniture so I didn’t get any fun from it. But I do agree it started to go downhill after Aurora. But even Little Prince and Aurora didn’t have as many IAP as the Moonmin one is going to have and with previous collabs we would still compete outfits without purchasing any IAP cosmetics
Oh I absolutely dislike how lazy(?) they've gotten with just making mannequins now instead of .. you know .. interacting with spirits for that season. Takes away hugely from the experience and I wish they would actually always add a new area that's significant/substantial when they have a season too, I feel they can do so much more with interactive areas and new ideas for mini games, hand outs etc but they're dropping the ball
Ugh I meant to say **hang outs lol
@@clearskyzs yeah the new collabs, they are breaking the items down into further smaller bits
Everything you mentioned in this video are things I struggle with. To me Sky is like Journey, tainted with money and FOMO.
I thoroughly enjoyed Journey and didn't get to play Sky from the beginning, bc I didn't have ios. Once I got it on Switch, I was hooked. The environments, the music and the feeling of soaring were all wonderful! I also like to play dress up with the cosmetics, but I got burnt out grinding candles too. I still play, but it's a chore. Eden has become a way to get more ascended candles than the emotional apotheosis of the story. There's nothing I do in the game but collect 4 types of currency (regular, ascended, seasonal candles and event tickets).
I understand they need player engagement, but to drain the soul out of the game and have players run around the same hamster wheel every day, motivated by FOMO just isn't healthy.
I have quit twice and missed out on great cosmetics. I want to quit playing daily, but the FOMO is too real. I could have learned to play guitar irl instead of grinding candles.
Oh and I forgot about the hearts. I don't even have most of the regular constellations completed, bc I'm scared to spend my hearts and candles in case a TS comes by for a limited time. I'd love to get the regular black cape, but how on earth will I get all the hearts I need for that?
Totally agree...
It's not a permanent fix (I still feel a bit like a hamster on a wheel) but I would trade hearts with you if you wanted! I was able to get all the regular base capes by having basically 1 person that I regularly traded hearts with over the course of (*shudders in hindsight*) a couple months
Dude, I went through the exact same thing! I stopped playing for 2 years and honestly? I feel like a moth exploring all the new things again! But also? I'm definitely feeling the grind again. Counting the amount of seasonal candles I can collect everyday to see if it's still possible to get a single outfit, fearing the thought of missing a single day. It's the exact reason why I stopped playing in the first place. The grinding took. Away. The fun. And I want to step in and tell TGC this but don't know where I can in a way that they'll listen.
I wonder if there is any solution to avoid overpriced cosmetics. That price includes the whole experience of sky, not just the cosmetic. Would I accept to pay a monthly subscription? I think so. For a game with friends, events, not a single ad, for my sanctuary.
Thank you for making this video. I started to play sky in 2021 in the middle of season of the little prince and played it until 2023 end of season of moments. Then I run out of energy. The constant server splits and the bugs made me stop to enjoy playing. Also the pressure for farming candles every day, even if I'm too tired to do anything in real life, I logged into sky and did the quests and some candle running. Now I'm back in sky and a lot of changes are made. It felt interesting again. And I just don't pressure myself anymore for getting 20 candles every day. Only having time for doing the quests? Fine. It works well for me and I can enjoy the game again. I took a break from sky for 9 months. And like you mentioned, many old friends I had also quit playing.
The pricing in sky is another thing. I also grew up with the Moomins. And I saw it in the beta that the cosmetics for the Moomin season are not completed. Only if you do some iap you'll get the full costume for any character? That's ridiculous in my opinion. Why buying a season pass if not one single outfit is complete? I know it's a collab but oh boy. There are still ftp players in sky. We will see how it turns out 😅😊. Thank you
Seeing those clips make me regret spending a single penny on this game.
i definitely feel like one way they can improve the game is through giving more concrete lore. initially, the vague story aspects worked as it gave some mystique and anticipation, but years later the story is still fragmented and no one really knows anything for certain. so many theories are essentially baseless and pure speculation because they rarely give us tidbits of actual substance. not to mention, it’s clear now that part of the vague lore is just so that they can implement new seasons
honestly this is unrealistic and very likely won’t happen, i’m not even sure if this is the best idea myself, but if they abandon the seasonal framework and find some other sort of way to make things intriguing with the lore without being so repetitive, maybe the game could rekindle it’s spark
Welcome home
I remember my first time playing was in 2021 and there were only 23 days before the end of dreams,i actaully ENJOYED the game exploring doing quests i kept playing until 2022 march,from that point on the fun and magic were gone it was just grind grind grind,and so i left..tried to come back but didnt really vibe with it anymore..
Man I love sky so much I hate to see it be sooo grindy and iap heavy. I just wanna make funny little characters and fanfiction
Sky is a job that doesnt pay
The insistence of having to be in the game every day just to have enough currency for something is pretty much why I'm glad Season of Moomin is coming. I don't have an attachment for Moomin stuff, and the cosmetics don't interest me, giving me a free season-off.
I can't stand people that always go "you don't HAVE to get these cosmetics" when most players already know this.
Wow i didn't know there was a former disney employee there. Makes sense, the animations are very nicely done
I started playing in early 2022. I'll give you a slightly strange analogy as an example. In 2022, I felt like I was somewhere outside the city. People were in no hurry, enjoying life, and were very open to communication. Now it feels like I'm somewhere in big city, idk maybe NYC or Tokio. People are running to work, working hard, they have no time to talk, no time to stop and look at the stars, after work they go to bed tired. And it repeats day by day, again and again. They can't stop, cause they don't wanna be homeless. Rent is expensive, clothes expensive. And they look on other ppl how successful they r and they wanna be like them, so they working even more hard. They run like squirrels in a wheel, but there is no finish line. The biggest hole in sky for me it's lack of contact. Ppl say "but we have so many events, what u need?". But these events it's just cosmetics, cosmetics and again cosmetics, which only gives people a sense of pressure - they should work hard. Lately I often say the same phrase after the start of each event, after each seasonal quest "and that's it???", cause I don't see anything interesting, only cosmetics. I need some lore, I need smth new, I wanna cry, wanna laugh, wanna feel. Also I heard so much stories how ppl angry when someone trying to lit their candle, or saying "they were pursued flirted with me" just because someone used cute emoties, so now I'm afraid to try to lit somebody or use any emote, especially around Ikemens, cause omg what if they will think I'm flirting, I'm fall in love with them.😂 So there is not much content/lore in game, less of communication in a social game. With my best friend we can play other games with content or watch a movies. But idk why I still open sky everyday.. Just can't stop. Wanna add smth important: guys I never was in NYC or Tokio. I believe both cuties incredible beautiful and both countries USA and Japan r amazing!❤ I gave these cities as an example only because they are very large cities and I believe the people are very hardworking there probably and irl it's not bad❤ That's impressive actually ❤ So I hope if somebody will see my comment, u won't be upset about it❤
Another point- Sky has fallen off HARD lately, and I’ve been playing pretty consistently (but not daily) since summer of 2020. All the updates to the game, whether minor changes or big seasonal events, have been ridiculously low quality compared with the things we used to get. For nearly the last year, there hasn’t been a single good exploration season, except Nine-Tailed Deer which was collaboration. Nesting and Duets have been particularly insulting as back-to-back awful seasons. Completely repetitive final quests; it was great the first time the hand-holding with spirits happened in Season of Moments, but WHY WAS IT REUSED? Twice?? For Duets AND Nesting?? No creativity in cosmetics, no new mechanics, unless you count expanding the shared space system - mind you, I’ve NEVER seen ANY of my friends hanging out in their Nests, and I’ve been playing daily since Nesting because I stupidly bought the pass for Duets. Silly update to the daily quest system which makes things less convenient. If they were trying to go for more cozy spaces than big exploration areas, they’ve failed.
Deer wasn't great for exploring either, the area was cool but completely EMPTY. I haven't been there since the season's end because there's no point to go back there besides those two winged lights, eventually. Same for the Moments mountains, pretty but... nothing else. Sanctuary's area is still the best along with the Village of Dreams, and they do have daily quests actually there
Started playing during Season of The Little Prince after it had finally come to android and man I had fallen more in love with the game, I had wanted to get into it for the longest time but eventually had taken a big hiatus after two seasons as my mental health dropped and logging in everyday felt tiring. Two weeks ago I came back to the game and had felt the immediate stress and sadness of seeing all the cosmetics and events I had missed out on but decided to push through and restart collecting again especially since I was starting over from scratch (from android to pc).
It's a shame how a game with so much potential has so little development, the new seasons are great and I love them to bits but not much has really changed. For me I wish there were more lore bits to read into or even little mini-games to complete, the only thing that has been getting me to login as of recently again to collect candles is the fact I'm ubering other players during candle runs and winged light runs to try and meet new people and connect. I just hope that in the future the company helps to bring the joy back to the players.
Welcome back! We have now ticket run 😅😅 in the halloween 😢😢😂😂
This is my last season for the same all stuff you shown us 😣 It’s frustrating how this game became so FOMO and make me feel uncomfortable. The next months will have the record at cosmetic IAP cost in the clouds ☁️
The main thing that gets me about sky is the fan base sometimes. It’s frustrating that TGC can never win as with most gaming companies. If they say they’re extending the time between seasons, people get mad. If they create more back to back seasons, people get mad. If they lessen the amount of IAP’s people complain there’s not enough stuff for “uniqueness” but if they add too many people get mad (understandably) that it’s all too expensive. If the bugs get bad and they offer rewards, people say it’s not enough. Ect ect. No matter what, a large amount of people will be mad and complain. I miss the days people just simply enjoyed running around making friends and relaxing. Now it’s a constant battle of too much or not enough.
I am a fairly new player and I have to say that the grind is real. However, I do enjoy it, and I'm no longer afraid to skip a day of playing. I still enjoy other games - Genshin Impact, Wuthering Waves, Pokemon GO and others - and sometimes those can frustrate me, but Sky never does. I know a lot of people complain about how everything is "same old, same old" but I like it for its simple repetition. I find it grounding, knowing what I have to do, and where to go to finish a goal. that's just my opinion! I understand if you hate how nothing changes, and when it does, it becomes a curse. Stay healthy guys, drink water, and do something that makes you happy!
Aayo I was just thinking about you. Like there are more Nepali play in the sky now but the vets are slowly leaving the game including some Nepali vets too that I got to know over time. Still good to see you 🙌
I’ve played almost every season since Enchantment. This is the first season I didn’t buy a pass for… logging in no longer felt relaxing; it felt like an obligation so I wouldn’t miss out on the constant stream of limited-time items and events. I wasn’t getting enough of a break in between seasons/events to truly *choose* to log into Sky, just because I wanted to.
I felt I had to take a break from the game to pull myself out of the FOMO I’d had from years of investment. It’s hard to get myself to log in just to finish the seasonal quests now, which was the only thing I planned to do this season.
I first played sky in 2019, I hadn’t even known anything about journey or the company at all. I was just bored as hell during my school feild trip and saw it in the app store. 2 hours was enough to get through the whole experience. I didn’t know anything or how many spirits I had to light up, which areas to explore and progress.
The ending scene, I could never forget it. At the time, I thought hundreds of other players were live with me as we ascended 😂 kind of funny now, and wanted to know how they were holding hands together.
The whole experience was something so different to what normal games were. I got so excited when I found out I could customise my character back then too. I remember really wanting the music instruments. It was simple back then, with only the main spirits and the elders. There wasn’t even a first season yet, just the main base game.
I started up again 2023 and I was so shocked that the day I left the game was the day the first season was out. I missed out so much stuff that it was hard not to feel fomo about it. It’s been a year now and I’ve been scrambling and buying almost every season and items that I like. But unlike my past experience where I explored freely with my old friends and found ways to get more candles to buy the elder cosmetics, I had to grind and grind for candles and check the timings for granny if I wanted to finish my grinding time before 2 hours had clocked in.
And one day I realised that the game had become something like a chore. I’d get sleepy and bored running candles on hidden forest and that used to be my favourite map.
I wish Sky didn’t become so money driven and timing consuming. I missed the days where sky kids could just play around and talk to people and have fun with no pressure to grind.
I'm wondering if the recent issues are being worsened because the studio's focus is split with the upcoming animated show. I only know a little about animation, but I do know that to make a show as visually appealing as the trailers takes so much freaking effort, especially if it's going to have a whole season of episodes. Don't get me wrong, I'm excited for the show, but I suspect that it's causing game issues to get pushed lower on the priority list.
I am no professional on this field or anything,but I am pretty sure that for the show,they Should hire different people not related to Game development. But even then,many bugs have been there for years and still not fixed. Others are simply not their priotity/they don't care and well. Seeing how much cosmetic content they keep dropping, I wouldn't be surprised that's their main Focus anyway.
I've been playing Sky for I believe 3 months now, pretty new player and yet even as a new player, I agree with literally everything you're saying here. Recently I've started to slowly realize these issues.
I first played the game when it got its Android Release. The game then became my comfort game. It had its bugs and flaws, but I had hope as it had a world full of wonder, and I made friends there. The seasons that time were memorable. But I had to leave by the time it was the end of the Season of Flight, because I was the kind of player to 100% grind (solo/with friends) and that finally brought me to my burnout. When I finally took a step back from Sky, it felt refreshing, and gave me a clarity of mind to realize the game that was full of wonder was slowly just a game of grinding for cosmetics. (To which I made the joke to my friends one time that it's an expensive dress up game.) I only came back to give a small visit to my old friends a year or a bit more after my break from the game, and for the first few days it felt good to go thru the realms to remember nostalgic places. But after a while of nostalgia, I still see it as a dress up game of expensive cosmetics. The seasons didn't give the same feels as it had when Sky was still new. It was kind of sad I had to uninstall the game the second time.
I'll still say Sky is still a must play game. It will give you the sense of wonder at first, and wonderful memories. But don't rely on it for long term unless you're into monotonous grinding for that one small cosmetic you may or may not discard once the next best thing comes out.
Good video you got here!
mhm. I had to choose between fear of missing out and beta spoilers. I picked spoilers. I really have to log in during days of style to get the sunglasses and during days of feast to get the pillows for my nest room and the ski goggles. I'm a mischief and Revival moth, with that I don't need to log on during upcoming Mischief. I got the boots last year, I almost never take them off. Those boots are my fist non-base game cosmetic. I got really attached to them. My outfit consists rn of mischief boots, fifth anniversary pants, Revival wine red cape, Duet pianist hair, abyss diving mask, tournament torch and optionally days of love heart barrette. I'm missing the Style sunglasses to complete my look (to match with the pants). After that I'm mostly done with my looks for Sky. And after that, I can either learn how to play piano, find someone to chat with or just soft quit the game.
I think what frustrates me the most is that TGC wound up using a sort of idea I was hoping for -- bringing a bunch of previous spirits to a shop and have a handful of them come and go in rotations -- and instead used it for the Nesting shop. And there are so many things they could do to make our experience better beyond the TS shop -- some possibly even better than the shop -- that they never bother with: make hearts ACTUALLY easier to obtain for solo players, raise the daily candle cap if they don't plan on lowering prices, replay past seasons to give new players a chance and veterans a break, or just keep all of the spirits and their cosmetics available like the base game spirits. The FOMO's long-since gotten old, the economy for hearts is a shambles with no one really wanting to trade, and the IAPs are more expensive than getting REAL NEW GAMES. When I first got into Sky at the end of Aurora, I was hoping it'd be different from the f2p games that only cater to the players willing and able to fork over that much money in the first place, because that always hurts a game's player-base in the long run. But for all the big talk from the devs about not being about that life, they just fell headfirst into that abyssal pitfall anyway and refuse to dig themselves out.
i started back in 2019 and stopped around when little prince was out. During that window of time, it was such a low stress game, the dailies never felt like chores to me. I think sky only started becoming a chore when the traveling spirits came out. The endless daily candle grinds killed me fast, and i only recently started playing again after a few years. For the most part ive been having fun again, but since ive missed over 10 seasons im feeling that horrible grinding mindset again. And whats sad is how the developer in the interview said he didnt want the purchases to be about “the fear missing out,” but thats exactly how it feels. (To me at least) even with just the candle purchases, not the ones for real money. Like how rn the shattering spirits are out. I feel like i need to get as many items as i can before theyre gone because who knows when theyll be back??
I was even out with a friend all day today and couldnt stop thinking every now and then about how i wont have a lot of time to candle run. Thats horrible 😭
Sky was more fun when things werent so based around grinding and the items :( I dont think my return to sky will last very long. Most of my friends stopped playing anyway, out of the hundreds of stars in my friend constellation, i can seriously count on my hands how many are still active.
I have started playing the game ever since 2021 during the The Little Prince season. Now, with TGC’s “grand” shift of change, especially implementing the aviary’s arrival, it just become a chore to do rather than an engaging open world game. Many seasons and events, even TS to farm to, increasing IAP (Duets, Moomin, I’m looking at you rn) and seasons not focusing on the big chunk of lore.
TGC needs to listen, to what the players want and need. Both benefiting the old and new players.
Welcome back! Recently got back into the game 4 months ago
Truth to be told, sky as a concept is not something you will want to play daily if the adventures provided by it is limited. Journey seemed to have worked because it was a new concept + limited gameplay + good storyline. Sky isn't like that.
Play around with friends and socialize? Roblox also provide that thing. It's not a unique idea. The unique ideas are landscapes/worlds, pure honking abilities of skykids and the story that builds the realm of sky. Devs seems to have forgotten filling up the details of the realm and left the sky as unfinished building. Season is a good idea but it literally doesn't do anything anymore. The landscapes (and games in the past seasons before dreams) it provide are brilliant sometimes but does it contribute in the mystery/adventure/lore of sky? No. I personally have always thought of them as side stories.
And, I am tired of seeing side stories and grinding for poor quality clothes. I want main story or heck, I want innovation in this game, not constant seasons and (now) events.
From the season of little prince until now, the game of IAP has changed completely. I still remember how eveyone lost their mind when tgc first introduced fox plushie and asteroid cape as an extra little prince item not included in season pass. The general consensus was "what's the meaning of pass if you also have to make separate purchases to get everything?". Fast forward to September 2024, it looks like the general consensus are "f2p getting almost nothing", "season pass items are sometimes good" and "IAPs are either hit or scam". No one is focused on storytelling, the mystery, the stupid curiosity and excitement of seeing an unlit skykid beside you. I find the current state very sad. Now, skykids are all busy running around and collecting candles and hearts through shared memories and candles. (Funny thing is memory candles helps to get more candles behind 4 player doors when it's intended purpose was to be about memories of players).
I personally am very attached to the maps, the ambience and skykids in general so I am finding it difficult to uninstall this game. I don't even like many clothing items and have gotten too smart to see through the whole cycle of "liking new item - grinding - buying- wearing it for once - excitement dies down as more items come." Seriously, how did the vibe of Sky changed so much?
Btw, I remember you from the time when I was a moth around 2021, you used to post videos about new players trying to pick on you who thought it's a dating simulator or how some skykids would bully poor new moths. I wondered why you disappeared so I am glad to see this video.
Have a great day.
been playing since paradise, last fully active during dreams it’s just a shame, i can’t rlly seem to stick to it anymore it sucks
As a player since 2020 and still playing, everything said here is 100% correct
If they added an ad option, that allowed you to watch a few ads a day for like 10 extra candles to help pay the creators… id be fine with that. Feel like that would help them make an income without pushing 30 dollar capes. And you dont have to watch the ads if you dont want to. As long as they dont make anything else in the game cost more candles then they already do
YOOOO YOU BACK! I love yo videos! You must have got burnt out 🤣😭, i kept Wondering when will you upload again, but anyways, yo back to at pol.
For four years I have been playing I never stressed myself about grinding except if there was a ts I wanted to buy it's cosmetics REAL BAD, but that is the odd. The normal for me is to have like 70 candles and spend them on friends. I played sky when it was still about the player and the experience, and I held on to that mentality. I play when I feel like it, I grind when I feel like it. What I enjoy the most is hanging out with strangers. My lack of candles has always been a joke in my family because I enter the game with the aim to collect, but end up spending the next hour emoting with a Grey player then sleeping in a nice looking place. Although that mentality is still a big part of my sky experience, I have noticed a great change in player base that had been caused by the shift in focus by the developers. In the past, players enjoyed hanging out and "wasting time" not grinding but socializing. One time I spent two hours playing the trials with complete strangers that finished before me every trial but waited for me to finish with them. Nowadays people are just speed running everything. In the past I spent hours at home space by the Sakura tree playing music and emoting with strangers, sleeping in funny poses and taking pictures. Now home and aviary home is almost always empty because everyone is rushing to collect. The 4th anniversary brought back what I loved in sky, the social experience. I played with strangers and befriended them. Almost every day someone logged in and just hung out. I feel as if after then, the feel for hanging out really died out. I won't blame it all on tgc, nor the players, but how society has changed at this point. We no longer see families and friends hanging out in parks or gathering in someone's back yard. They are always doing an activity that requires spending money like shopping or entertainment. They no longer just simply hang out. It's really really sad.
Bro, I got so sick of farming candles for cosmetics that I started having annoying dreams where I didn't have time to complete certain events and seasons and lost cool cosmetics because of it. And when I woke up, I had no desire to play Sky today at all.
I haven't played SCOTL in a year and I feel much happier than I ever have.
When started it was a wonderful experience, I fall in love with the game when i saw my sister playing Sky. I have to agree that my interest in the game dropped because of the repetitiveness, the costs, the bugs, and the toxic players. That being said, I still have hope for the game and hope ThatGameCompany addresses these in the future.
I started playing Sky in just before Season of Nesting began, I missed out on all the furniture and items from that season because I didn't understand how the game worked yet.
As a new sky player I don't feel the need to keep up with everyone else because I understand this game has 5 years worth of cosmetics I cannot obtain (as much as I love the Ultimate Manta Cape it will never be mine ;-;). For me I like to go about and collect my candles, collect my WL, go to Eden and do it all over again until I can afford the item I want. I do however buy into the IAPs only for the cosmetics locked behind them if I want them enough. I haven't felt the need to buy candles because I know I can earn them. Same goes for real money so why not spend it on something that brings me joy
But because I'm someone who can afford the occasional IAP I don't see the issues with them nor have I found many of the prices totally unreasonable (That marshmallow kit on the other hand...) so I don't share the community's resentment towards them. If I can financially support Sky then I will.
But I haven't been playing very long so I do wonder if my attitude will change as time goes on
i came back to sky recently after a long, long time... it feels so different now. Back then i was focused on going through the realms and getting through eden! And i met a lot of people, we'd log on and try and find cool things we'd miss, or i'd get lead by more experienced players to winged light etc. it was so fun. I already feel the difference, I'm scared of not getting cosmetics, I don't even like them a lot of the time, i just feel like i'm missing out on so much. I've been doing the daily tasks, i quite enjoy them, but the fear of not getting candles everyday is *intense*. i think i'll save for moomin, as I love the moomins so much. after that, well. I'll just be chill. not so much grinding. I guess as a solo player grinding feels quite calm, but not if it's out of fear/fomo
Good video, totally agree. Maybe we just need to look at it from another angle now? :)
initial-initial thoughts: did you use an AI voice for this? I'm struggling so much to figure out if its real or not- I don't wanna sound mean though, im sorry if it did come out that way.
around quarter mark thoughts: I had only been exposed to sky during my junior year of high school bc of my friend, so I didn't see for myself the progression in skys updates. I have recently come back and realized that theres so much more to do than the first run through all the realms, and I have become deeply involved in the lore and what TGC has been trying to say through the story. I will say that i struggle to find myself attached to any other in game characters besides the elders, and started viewing the normal spirits just by their cosmetics or lack thereof. I didn't even notice the valley had soldier-like people, further emphasizing the scale of the war that devastated the wasteland, until I saw "oh a pink cape!... oh my god it costs so much how do i even get hearts??" -moth me. Also, I first sort of laughed at Chen rubbing his head and seeming out of the loop, but I both empathize and criticize this. There were likely so many visions that had come down the drain and now all these monetizing concepts brought on from the market has made the coherence of sky as a game unclear. Often, you'll see artists attempt to make a game to "prove games can be art" (whatever that means) but they fail in the gameplay development as a result. I think that's happening to sky as well.
about two thirds in: holy honk they got a pixar guy to help them wtf??? thats crazy
end of video thoughts: its genuinely sad to see that a game like this, with seemingly so much inspiration taken from the different thoughts on humanity and its concepts, has fallen to the trend just for the hopes of doing more and more ambitious yet time consuming and expensive things. So many collabs and even an animated series coming up has probably put the company at such a chokehold, though admittedly a fault of their own. I've recently been thinking about my initial turn away from sky - nothing to do with gameplay, but I felt very disgusted with what I saw the company supported. I'm probably the first sky player who has done that, honestly. But with all these problems happening, it made me think more into my first decision, which the break I took I call my moth cocoon. Especially starting college has given me more insight into what sky was in its initial concepts, and I have drawn contradictions between the message that they seem to intend versus what they are doing with the game right now.
The game's story and concept detail the rising and falling of both the person and civilization. This comparison is incredible to me, the way both are so distinctly similar. A blank slate turns into a nourishing land, expanding and so vibrant. Suddenly, growth hits and everything becomes a heavy toll, but once that is over, we finally have our own sense of freedom. By the time we are seemingly in the middle of it, we are struck with conflict, and everything begins to darken. Finally, we begin to reflect, and as we return to whence we came, it all has to start over again.
Let's connect this chronological narrative to the modern lifestyle and its everlasting issues, particularly the ideas conveyed with the forest and wasteland.
The forest hosts many young spirits and even the Aurora song in this realm attempts to show the materialistic nature with the industrialization, and subsequently, environmental issues. Both the young (rather younger looking, since they've been dead for a long time now) spirits and skykids end up victim to the aftermath, and could be interpreted as the current generations' pessimistic outlook. However, the cautions of materialism are destroyed when the only reward in the game itself are cosmetics. It is one thing to point out that many young people, even as young as 9 now, are getting obsessed with what they have and don't have, as well as their looks, but having that be the only reason to continue playing the game after completing the main story is missing the target. This game also markets itself on its playerbase being able to express themselves, mostly through clothing, but the reality is that much of the cosmetics are hard to obtain, paid for, or outright gone now.
Moving on, we head to the wasteland. The large dunes and endless crabs almost feel like a representation of the slowing progression in one's life and how others have become those little annoying things constantly trying to push us down. The krills, which many speculate to be mantas or whales who have been corrupted, could be seen as the authority in our lives, like bosses or governments, always watching out for our wrong moves. Being seen (figurative and literally) is a danger. Much seen with the war motifs, our lives at this point (whether personal or societal) are starting to feel more like a struggle than our prime. Sound familiar? That's because the gameplay after the main story and getting accustomed to all the features of the game become a struggle. We push ourselves everyday to do the dailies fast enough before we have school or work, but the reward ends up minimal. We have people cheating the system through hacks in shared memories who are constantly being seen, but the searchlights of TGC don't help make it any better right now. Some of the playerbase is at war with one another AND at TGC.
There is an extra detail that is very minor and quite controversial that I want to cover as well, though. As I mentioned before, my moth cocoon started due to TGC supporting things I didn't (and even though I play now, I pledge to be F2P). Among the things TGC supports is LGBT+. To many English players, it's no big deal. But do take note that MANY of the cosmetics that are available, particularly the robes, are based on Asian cultures. The Modest Dancer is literally wearing a hijab! But that hijab was exclusive to the Season Pass. Many players who wanted to express their faith had to pay, and it's likely some of their money went to things that go against their faith. TGC also had to make a separate version of sky for China, and Days of Colors wasn't added at the same time due to its English ties to LGBT+. Some cultural cosmetics being paid items that go towards controversial causes REALLY does not live up to the advertised, 'express yourself' motto.
In short, or TLDR for those skimming and wanna see large letters, despite the supposed messages against materialism and daily monotony/struggle, and support for the freedom of expression, TGC has made a darn good job at doing the opposite of these things.
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I know this might not be a popular opinion, but I think Sky is a lot less stressful than many other games in the same genre. For veteran players, there’s not a constant need to complete daily candle run , especially if you’ve already unlocked most of the spirits. You can really take your time, save up, and just enjoy the experience. While new players might feel a bit overwhelmed at first, it’s important to remember that getting capes, cosmetics, and other collectibles isn't the main goal of the game.
I started playing Sky four years ago, during a difficult period when I was struggling with severe depression. I wasn’t able to leave my house or talk to people much, and when the pandemic hit, things got even harder. I didn’t have many cosmetics or much experience in the game back then, but I would just wander through the locations and meet some truly wonderful people. Many of the older players now don’t even focus on the current seasons and are still enjoying the game.
I do agree that we could use more lore, but I’m hoping to learn more about it from the animated series that was announced on the anniversary.
i’ve been playing almost consistently since feb 2020 and i’ve felt really burnt out. i saw another comment mention how people feel a lot of FOMO if they don’t play for awhile. that was me, and that’s mainly what’s been keeping me from quitting. there’s still a lot of aspects i enjoy but this video deeply resonated with me. for a game that feels like it needs to have a proper end based on its storyline (although extremely vague) and initial gameplay, it continues on. their past games had a specific goal and end in mind, and while i don’t think that suits sky, the aesthetics and gameplay of their past works runs deeply in sky. idk, i like all my limited cosmetics but what does it really do for me? hm..