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That's definitely why I watch stages like this. Year after year. It's only once in every 10 years it actually unfolds like this though. Still worth it.
Gotta respect Roglic staying in this tour for the team despite the immense pain he's dealing with. Despite being dropped before the last climb, he was instrumental for Jumbo today.
@@kgarg92 Roglic said every pedal stroke was like getting stabbed in the back and that's just in the saddle.. imagine the pain out of the saddle applying force through that shoulder. Sheesh.
@@kgarg92 that’s the beauty of this. Jumbo hasn’t had to control anything yet and they’ve been able to completely shelter & save Sepp to this point. We’ve seen a lot of Rafa Majka to this point afront the Yellow Group. Now we’ll see a healthy dose of the Durango Kid up there!
Yeah, Roglic certainly seemed like he gave it his all. I actually have a hard time finding any riders who aren't pretty likeable anymore? There's just not the same drama queens and "bad guys" in the field anymore as there used to be. Which is a good thing, but in that regard there's less drama. :D
this is going to be studied as a textbook example of how to beat a stronger rider when you have the stronger team. Everything from the Van Aert satellite breakaway from km 0 to the relentless one/two attacking at the bottom of the Galibier. Even Van Aert falling back during the Galibier decent to pick up Roglic so he could help with the final climb. What a master piece!
@@clementdenis4212 but one of the reasons Vingegard was able to be the stronger climber in the end was that he and Roglic needled Pogacar early on who kept retaliating and burnt all his matches. It was a masterful strategy, beautiful to watch.
@@Breesey of course ! It was brilliant racing from Jumbo-Visma ! I just wanted to point out that the most brilliant strategy can not work if your leader is not able to deliver at the end.
I actually think everything worked for TJV except for Wout -- he paced Roglic back which was irrelevant. I would've rather left Roglic on his own and had Wout with Sepp & Jonas to help pull Jonas away even earlier than he did.
I think that Jumbo played this stage to perfection. I remember the two previous years, they were trying to wear down Pogačar by riding a hard but steady pace almost throughout all of the mountain stages, no matter how hot the day was, or how high up in the mountains they were. And back then, Pogačar also didn't have a lot of teammates around him, but he could keep up with that steady pace. I think they finally learned from their mistakes, and they tried a completely different strategy this time around. These attacks came early, and came hard, and just kept on coming! They really wore him down, and this was the perfect stage to execute such an attack, and Jumbo really couldn't have played it better!
That was only 2 year ago, last year JV soon didn't have the team anymore but just hanging on and see where Vingegaard stranded. I think last year they likely would have tried a different tactic too, though impossible to know for sure since then there was just one GC leader for them initially.
Yeah, this was the anti-Ineos and thank god for that. Exciting one two bursts that provided excitement and forced Pogacar to cover all of them on his own. In the past TJV has just pulled Pogacar to within 1km of the summit and then wondered why Primoz or Jonas couldn't get a few seconds.
Pog should have let Rog go up the road. Then Thomas and co. would come into play. He tried to do it all himself, he needs to draw other riders in to assist.
@@famousatmidnight15 He would have lost the tour right there if he did, remember Rog would have had two riders who would fall back right away and wout would have killed any team between the mountains.. G. Thomas would not help, they would rater play it defensive and see where the chips land on final mountain.
Pogacar will surely have learned his lesson...not to get suckered into countering every single attack but to keep a strong and steady pace. Those attacks deplete one's reserves too quickly, but only if you let them.
TJV has been building up to this, what an epic stunner of a TDF stage. Jonas and Nairo were so strong. Shout out to Geraint Thomas who is still in the GC contention.
I think everobody is suprised by thomas still being there, but i dont think he will stand a chance. He cant beat any GC guys like Pogi and Vinge 1v1 and even if he has Barle and Ganna, they cant beat Vingegaard having WVA and Roglic
@@wattier8218 he can climb we all know that he won the tour on alpe d’huez and he’s one of the strongest time Trialers amongst the GC favourites can’t see any reason why he wouldn’t make podium especially if Pog cracks again today
@@wargey3431 Pogi only cracks if jumbo puts their whole team to it and i didnt say that he wont make podium, i said he wont be a challenger for the tour. Lets hope Jumbo has to work hard for vingegaard. If not and they are able to keep on launching like this, the tour will be over by today
@Lanterne Rouge - I just caught up on today - eurosport, gcn, TdF itself, then your recap dropped and it is, as usual, head and shoulders above the rest. How you fit so much high quality information into an 8 minute video; its genius talent you have, lad... Chapeau
@Paul Odenfield Do they really have the money? Their hilights are so short they consistently miss major points in the race and lack time to demonstrate proper insight. They also have had some incredibly amateurish audio on the women's recaps in the past.
Something to consider: The fact that WvA is sitting, basically waiting on the other side of the summit put Pogi in a position of threat. If He and Jonas are leading on the road, there is no worry about Jonas attacking because as long as he rides his own pace and stays close, he will close him on the decent. Whereas with WvA waiting there, he feels like he has to ride hard to prevent attacks because even a 10 second gap could turn into a minute+ if Wout is there to power Jonas down the hill. Which is a genius bit of tactics, because if Jonas DOES feel like he can crack Pogi, then Wout is there to take him to the next climb with an even bigger gap, and in that case perhaps even pace him for the first k or so, but even when Jonas DIDN'T attack it still puts Pogi under immense pressure. /edit: You actually talked about this 1 second after I paused to make this comment. :P
@@BizInTheFrontPartyInTheBack what UAE team? They have 5 domestiques left for Pogacar. Bjerg and Hirschi have looked absolutely terrible, probably because of sickness. They both finished behind Caleb Ewan today, among the last 5-10 riders to finish barely ahead of the time cut. They could barely do anything. And you cannot spend Majka, Bennett, and Soler when you need them for the mountains. This is when having a joke team like UAE instead of Jumbo superteam hurts you so much
@@BizInTheFrontPartyInTheBack There's the small issue of being able to follow or catch WvA when he attacks. They'd have to waste an incredible amount of energy at the beginning of the stage if they want to have a chance to catch him
That UAE team is tired AF. They have been pacing for almost the entire TDF. They already lost a lot of energy. Meanwhile Jumbo could just sit 'easy' in the peleton and save their energy for moments like today. Except WVA, he just has a truckload of energy. That man is a beast. That's what I think.
Well Pogi could have just let Roglic or Vingegard go at say 60 or 50 km from the finish line. Ride his own pace just like them. Only if they are stronger they will stay before him. I dont believe in a domestique doing anything in stages like this. On the climb its man to man. On the descent it's just going downhill fast. Only for getting food or water they are useful in these stages. It's too though. Pogi maybe would still have lost some time that way but less than now..
i'm a pogi fan but i can't stop watching this video too. the way they relentlessly beat down pogi was a masterpiece. stronger teams will always beat the strongest rider.
@@pipolchamp8205 I'm a big fam of Pogacar aswell - those who isn't fan of him isn't fan of real cycling! But I just love to see cycling when everyone is going to their limit and even above, no bullshit just let the legs do the talking - that's what we all wanna see 🙌
@@pipolchamp8205 and Vingegaard showed already last year that's he is good, so we knew what show we could expect this year. But surely Pogacar will fight back and entertain us all - Vive le Tour 💛
Omg! Just the opening seconds were amazing. Jumbo Visma riders were relentlessly attacking Roglic like a pack of jackals going in for the kill! And I haven’t even finished watching the vid.
One of the most exciting stages I've seen at the Tour. TJV were always going to take multiple attacks to Pogačar, and the contributions of Van Aert, Benoot, Kruijswijk and Laporte at various points should not be dismissed. A very different (thankfully) strategy to the old Team Sky approach of closing down attacks incrementally. Primoz Roglič was astounding and selfless. Nairo Quintana was aware that Barguil was suffering and proved right to attack. Bardet and Thomas showed their experience by challenging without going into the red, but Vingegaard's solo was a ride for the ages. Chapeau!
At 4:07 pretty funny. Pogacar flips his left elbow to Jonas asking him to come through. Jonas shakes his head. "Uh...no." "I'll be 'coming through' a little later though."
Personally I think Tadej's expression at the end of the stage is more "I FEEL SO ALIVE!!!" than defeat. I'm sure he wants to win but looks like it won't bother him if he doesn't. Enjoying the challenge and pushing himself to the limit. More interesting (for him and viewers) than if he just slam dunked every big stage. This tour has been really good!
He was still smiling in his interview, while congratulating Vingegaard, while doing the white jersey presentation. I'm beyond impressed. No one even would have blamed him if he would have shown disappointment or even anger, but the kid just smiled. Truly a great rider, on and off the bike.
@@Tibovl I think doping has a played a huge roll on how we use to see riders...allways nerves abouth controls, not showing emotions due to the feeling of not riding it clean.. These riders ride alot like you would see in a yung riders race, pure joy of racing and full gaz if the legs are in for it. what a joy
If Pogi wins at the end, this will remain one of the highlights of a Tour we haven't seen since the Dark Ages. If he doesn't it will only make him better next year. We can only speculate what this Tour might have looked like with a healthy Roglič.
@@iminc5498 I don't know, a Rog at the same level of the last 2 years would have at least finished a close 2nd behind Vingegaard today and with a better ITT, all cards would still be in play imo. At the very least we'd have seen a 2 JV rider podium.
What a Tour so far. 10th placed in GC has 13 minutes on mailloy jaune, afyer stage 11!! And Alpe d’Huez is still to come. We are truly blessed after the sky years
LR definitely deserves a lot of credit for calling out two weeks ago that this was where TJV was going to make the attack, and that the attack had a very good chance of succeeding. Let's hope LR continues to be correct in his predictions, then we should see some great action in the Pyrenees and the final TT...
Honestly, probably the best stage I've seen since I started following the tour in the mid 90s. The tactics from Jumbo Visma played out to perfection and the 1-2 punches from Vingegaard and Roglic is what we always hope for the GC-guys to try. After so many years of a dominant lock-down team that will swallow up all inklings of excitement, the duel of Vingegaard and Pogacar could very well last a decade. It's going to be awesome, in all of the true sense of the word.
The last 2 TDF he was mostly solo and TJV finally realized they have the stronger team and isolated Pogi… what a textbook teamwork play by TJV! Absolutely spot on!
I simply ❤️❤️❤️ your commentaries. Especially you filling the gap as to what the riders would think or converse with his team is brilliant. Thank you!! Simply the best.
I remember a quote from Vingegaard from about a month ago or more, and I was surprised at how confident he was but he knew what he was talking about... he said something like "I could win the Tour this year..." something like that.
Jonas said already in January that he was gonna win this year. And he did. He was simply stronger than Tardej this year. Gonna be interesting next year :-) Pogačar needs a stronger team if he wants to beat Jonas in 2023.
Think of the Team Sky days it’s not crazy to pummel one man and him still today when Movistar had the trident they tried pretty much the same thing against froomey and failed spectacularly And let’s be honest it wasn’t the entire team pummelling him it was mainly Vingergaard and Roglic and it absolutely destroyed Primoz Vingergaard just had better legs than Pog
I actually think while it was a great stage, today is the stage where they have to defend yellow as a team. Today we see if they can pull it through or not :)
@@wargey3431 I totally agree, but I want to see it live today :D Pogi will be on the attack. At some point it will be Pogi vs Vingegaard again late in the stage.
Everyday I record the tour then watch it in the evening, fast forwarding through the uneventful bits so I can cram 5 hours into 3. No fast forwarding today however and so glad I record it as highlights do not do it justice. If people who think cycling is boring just watch a stage like this with good commentary that describes the tactics then they would be converts.
What a wonderful stage. This is what we've been waiting for, and oh boy did we get it. My personal highlight of the stage was Jonas and Primož taking turns and attacking Tadej. Most say this was Tadej's tactical mistake but in my opinion, this just shows the respect Pogačar has for Roglič. They know each other better than anyone and Pogačar would never just let Roglič go. Despite Roglič's injuries and discomfort, he's still a force to be reckoned with and I doubt Pogačar knew the condition (and daily form) Roglič was in yesterday. For all he knew, Roglič could have had super legs yesterday and his back pain had finally subsided, so he just couldn't afford not to follow his attacks. Plus, this was the place where Roglič got his first TdF win back in 2017, attacking 34 km out. As we've seen, 2 or 3 minutes is not that much of a gap, and that could have easily been (a healthy) Roglič at the end instead of Jonas. My only hope is to see Primož make a comeback, preferably at this year's Vuelta. He's still got too much of a fight in him to simply become and settle for a status of a super domestique for JV.
Wout still looked so good at the end, I have a feeling that he'll be able to repeat that again tomorrow. Really glad to see TJV apply some excellent tactics. Best TDF stage I've seen in years!
Wout is just incredible. Dropping the breakaway climbers with his 78kgs. If he had no responsibilities to his team I think he'd have taken this stage, or at least get another podium.
There won't be any need to attack now. As Benoot said the whole tactic switches to defense. They had a tactic for months for Alpe d'Huez offense, but have to decide on a defensive tactic now.
Incredible! Jumbo all in team work no egos, one goal, just destroy Pogi! But he isn't done just yet! It's time for the battle in the trenches to get dirty.
I feel like Pogi was let down so hard by the team, and Jumbo used the opportunity to the max wearing him down before the climb. And THEN he even pulled UAE for the bridging, as a nail in the coffin. An incredible athlete, but every body has limits.
Pog did an incredible ride today - he dealt with all the 1-2 punches, then towed Jonas up the Galibier at a pace no-one else could do, and only really struggled on the upper slopes of the Granon. I don't think there's another in the Tour who could have done that. But he said that Jonas was the best climber in the world, and he wasn't wrong - doing all that work really cost him. Thomas was a surprise - he was there for the 1-2 punches when no-one else had followed, and while he got dropped at the top of the Galibier and Granon, he rode at his pace and didn't lose too much time. I was also surprised by Yates - even though he paced sensibly across the whole day I still thought he would have been much further back. Let's hope today is just as epic.
great analysis as always. Watched that Jumbo plan B movie just prior to the stage so i got quite excited about Jumbo lying down all their cards on the tarmac and getting the results in the end by complete obliteriation of the field and the gc. But a big gamble as well as u also said on ur pod. Also that smile from Roglic when he crossed the line and vingegaard pausing that interview for a hug with Wout told so much about the team. Unbelievable stage and such a beautiful sport. Can't wait for tomorrow
So he is human after all. Amazing race. I had to stay up until 3am in NZ, but I couldn't sleep. Lots of coffee today. BTW, I watched it live, and still came to watch your highlights. Keep it up!
I was wondering if Pogacar would like to take back the other day when he was whipping his teammates for no strategic benefit. He went looking for his team and they were gone. Well tomorrow, we could see a lot more UAE on the front controlling things. Vingegaard did an excellent job today, great teamwork for Jumbo. Wow!
@@JR-xv6mv Hey, I don’t disagree. But this would be insane, for the record I think he comes back and wins. In his interview after the stage, Jonas said he was on the absolute limit following Pogacar in the last 1km of Galibier. Can’t wait for the rest of race
@@iminc5498 no Vingegaard didn't say that he was on his absolute limit in the Galibier, what he said was the word "insecure" but what he meant was he wasn't sure if Pogi was on his limit or not that's why he didn't attack, it was at Col du Granon where he said that if he didn't try he won't know and he tried because if he didn't he wouldn't have won. On the Galibier, if you look at Jonas' face he really wasn't on the limit, he was just getting a free ride behind Pogacar, compare that to his face on the last 3km of the Granon, that's where he tried to be close to his limits or at his limit.
IMO the best move from TJV all day was having Van Aert towing the group of GC favorites back up to Pogacar. It meant that during the last climb, Pogacar wasn't only fighting them, he and whatever he had left of his team had to be careful of everyone else in the group and in turn it resulted in the pace up the climb increasing significantly. Strategy masterclass from TJV
I just started watching the tour this year, I missed about 5 stages leading up to this due to illness. I am SO glad I managed to get better and watch the full stage. This one was amazing, unmissable even. Pogacar is an absolute monster, I thought Jumbo wouldn’t break him down. Props to Vingegaard and the whole Jumbo squad. The strategy was amazing and great to see it pay off in a big way. That was SO fucking exciting. Hyped for the rest of the tour.
Can’t remember a stage being this interesting. Them days with Froome were boring nobody was really attacking him imo but Jumbo today man… phew 🔥 this is the reason we watch tdf!!!
@@zigzagnemesist5074 that was legendary. I actually remember another intereseting stage. In 2019 when Alaphillipe lost his yellow jersey to Bernal in stage 18 I think and the race got stopped due to a snowstorm. Before the stoppage all the favorites were fighting for yellow that was a good day too
If Pogacar had a team like Froome had for his TDF wins, they’re be no attacking here either. Froome’s team was always OP, so there was no point in attacking.
@A.L It was stage 19 to Tignes, Bernal attacked early on the Col de l'Iseran and was in virtual yellow at the top, then on the descent there was a storm over at the finish and a landslide meant the finish was cancelled and times were taken at the top of the Iseran
2:26 I don't think it's Pogacar being overconfident rather then him realizing what game Jumbo were playing. Help wasn't getting closer and he knew that he couldn't keep chasing back their moves. Therefore attacking and potentially opening a gap that would allow him to settle in a steady pace seemed like a reasonable option.
TJV was really putting in everything today. They knew they had to attack as long as their riders were capable of and the really put some fatigue into pogi so Jonas could deliver the perfect blow. GC is back on the table, lets see if they can repeat tomorrow so Jonas can have a chill ITT or if he has to put the hammer down to win. Absolute masterclass today from TJV
Team Jumbo is incredible. Once again Wout shows how crazy insanely good he is and how valuable he is for the team. He made almost 3 minutes on Barguil and saved a lot of energy pacing for Jumbo. Why was catching Barguil important? Vingegaard got those additional 10" bonus for the win in the end. So professional, masterpiece by Jumbo. Btw look at Tadej at 5:50. His shorts are full of dried salt. According to an expert (former pro) in the stream I watched, that's not a good sign. Glad Tadej had a day like this, he made us believe he is human after all. I hope he can recover and make it still interesting. I honestly don't have favourites, I just enjoy the show.
Pogacar was left high and dry by his teammates. I suspect they'd not recovered from the 'forced marches' they'd had to do on previous stages... 🙄 Jumbo Visma have been very organised, so far. They took full advantage of an isolated Yellow Jersey. Thanks again for your great coverage, sir! 👍 M 🦘🏏😎
How can a guy who has lost 2 team mebers due to Covid, plus have another 2 who are still in but who are clearly as sick as fuck (with it), be left 'high and dry' by them?. He's basically only got 3 team members left.
My mind was blown, and my jaw was on the floor while I stood out of my seat. Couldn't believe it. I was both heartbroken for Tadej while cheering on Jonas to continue pouring on the pain. I thought Jumbo was crazy for seemingly abandoning Roglic for GC, but today's stage cleared that all up. I was also tellin my buddy that it isn't close to over yet. Let's not forget Tadej took the minute+ deficit to Roglic in one final stage just two years ago. What a badass tour so far.
I'm about to start watching this at half past 1 in the morning here in Aarhus, Denmark. Looking forward to your analysis and your thoughts. So exciting being a dane following cycling these days and your channel has impacted that interest so heavily!!
Beautiful stage..we needed that. and what a blast to see that the Champ Pogacar is human. Jonas Wingfarm also rattle Pogacar cage in last years TDF, but only momentary. Its such a blast to see team like JV goes all out.
What a stage this was. What a Tour this was. Edge of the seat suspense pretty much every day. One of the best Tours in memory and a Tour that we will still talk about in 40 years like the 1986 tour.
Watching TdF since 1980 (Joop Zoetemelk! TI Raleigh!) but - to be honest, had some sabbatical years during Armstrong's reign during the early noughties (hated the obnoxious guy even before his de mascarade some years later). Never felt so emotional when this etappe rolled out with the last climb as it's culmination. Man, I must confess I shouted dewey eyed to the tele when Jonas made his final attack.
Jumbo Visma double-triple attacks give a result,they got all energy of Pogacar and Jonas finished him on Col de Granon..What a stage,one of best at the TDF history..
After watching this year tour we can make the conclusion that Vingegard is better than pogcarh especially on the mountains so it wasn't just all the difference between teams.
Just a thrill to watch, all the way through. Pogacar got a reality check on this stage - this is where he lost the Tour of '22. The battle next year is going to be fantastic.
Jonas Roglic are really having a Froomey Wiggins situation. Jonas is sooooooo good on ultra long climbs while still having elite level TT ability. It's the recipe for GC dominance aka the Froomey.
Pogi is a classy rider......shaking hands and giving Vinegaard a smile and congrats after the finish. That's what I like to see. This has been a great TDF so far.
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Stages like this is why we watch the TdF. And the drama surely isn’t done yet.
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That's definitely why I watch stages like this. Year after year. It's only once in every 10 years it actually unfolds like this though. Still worth it.
Too bad their broadcast team is garbage
Epic stage. Wow!
Agreed
Gotta respect Roglic staying in this tour for the team despite the immense pain he's dealing with. Despite being dropped before the last climb, he was instrumental for Jumbo today.
I wish kruijswijk and kuss are there more because Roglic seems to have given all he can...cant believe kuss is not there like 2 yrs ago.
@@kgarg92 Roglic said every pedal stroke was like getting stabbed in the back and that's just in the saddle.. imagine the pain out of the saddle applying force through that shoulder. Sheesh.
@@kgarg92 that’s the beauty of this. Jumbo hasn’t had to control anything yet and they’ve been able to completely shelter & save Sepp to this point. We’ve seen a lot of Rafa Majka to this point afront the Yellow Group. Now we’ll see a healthy dose of the Durango Kid up there!
Primoz!!!
Yeah, Roglic certainly seemed like he gave it his all.
I actually have a hard time finding any riders who aren't pretty likeable anymore? There's just not the same drama queens and "bad guys" in the field anymore as there used to be.
Which is a good thing, but in that regard there's less drama. :D
this is going to be studied as a textbook example of how to beat a stronger rider when you have the stronger team. Everything from the Van Aert satellite breakaway from km 0 to the relentless one/two attacking at the bottom of the Galibier. Even Van Aert falling back during the Galibier decent to pick up Roglic so he could help with the final climb. What a master piece!
But in the end it also relied on Vingegaard being the strongest rider today.
Quite right. They threw the kitchen sink at Pogacar and finally he cracked. Team matters.
@@clementdenis4212 but one of the reasons Vingegard was able to be the stronger climber in the end was that he and Roglic needled Pogacar early on who kept retaliating and burnt all his matches. It was a masterful strategy, beautiful to watch.
@@Breesey of course ! It was brilliant racing from Jumbo-Visma ! I just wanted to point out that the most brilliant strategy can not work if your leader is not able to deliver at the end.
I actually think everything worked for TJV except for Wout -- he paced Roglic back which was irrelevant. I would've rather left Roglic on his own and had Wout with Sepp & Jonas to help pull Jonas away even earlier than he did.
I think that Jumbo played this stage to perfection. I remember the two previous years, they were trying to wear down Pogačar by riding a hard but steady pace almost throughout all of the mountain stages, no matter how hot the day was, or how high up in the mountains they were. And back then, Pogačar also didn't have a lot of teammates around him, but he could keep up with that steady pace. I think they finally learned from their mistakes, and they tried a completely different strategy this time around. These attacks came early, and came hard, and just kept on coming! They really wore him down, and this was the perfect stage to execute such an attack, and Jumbo really couldn't have played it better!
That was only 2 year ago, last year JV soon didn't have the team anymore but just hanging on and see where Vingegaard stranded. I think last year they likely would have tried a different tactic too, though impossible to know for sure since then there was just one GC leader for them initially.
Yeah, this was the anti-Ineos and thank god for that. Exciting one two bursts that provided excitement and forced Pogacar to cover all of them on his own. In the past TJV has just pulled Pogacar to within 1km of the summit and then wondered why Primoz or Jonas couldn't get a few seconds.
Pog should have let Rog go up the road. Then Thomas and co. would come into play. He tried to do it all himself, he needs to draw other riders in to assist.
@@famousatmidnight15 He would have lost the tour right there if he did, remember Rog would have had two riders who would fall back right away and wout would have killed any team between the mountains.. G. Thomas would not help, they would rater play it defensive and see where the chips land on final mountain.
Pogacar will surely have learned his lesson...not to get suckered into countering every single attack but to keep a strong and steady pace. Those attacks deplete one's reserves too quickly, but only if you let them.
TJV has been building up to this, what an epic stunner of a TDF stage. Jonas and Nairo were so strong. Shout out to Geraint Thomas who is still in the GC contention.
I think everobody is suprised by thomas still being there, but i dont think he will stand a chance. He cant beat any GC guys like Pogi and Vinge 1v1 and even if he has Barle and Ganna, they cant beat Vingegaard having WVA and Roglic
@@wattier8218 Yeah, but with the 40 km ITT he should be able to podium.
Thomas, 3rd place in Paris! I really hope I'm right!
@@wattier8218 he can climb we all know that he won the tour on alpe d’huez and he’s one of the strongest time Trialers amongst the GC favourites can’t see any reason why he wouldn’t make podium especially if Pog cracks again today
@@wargey3431 Pogi only cracks if jumbo puts their whole team to it and i didnt say that he wont make podium, i said he wont be a challenger for the tour. Lets hope Jumbo has to work hard for vingegaard. If not and they are able to keep on launching like this, the tour will be over by today
@Lanterne Rouge - I just caught up on today - eurosport, gcn, TdF itself, then your recap dropped and it is, as usual, head and shoulders above the rest. How you fit so much high quality information into an 8 minute video; its genius talent you have, lad... Chapeau
I think the secret is his amateur passion over super-slick presentation. You can hear he loves this. Those other people barely get past the surface.
@Paul Odenfield Eurosport's a tad worse imo
@Paul Odenfield the Tour de France channel learned the ways of F1 style content and I really dig it.
@Paul Odenfield Do they really have the money? Their hilights are so short they consistently miss major points in the race and lack time to demonstrate proper insight.
They also have had some incredibly amateurish audio on the women's recaps in the past.
@@Tibovl He also takes his time. This is up quite a bit after the stage, but I always prefer high quality over fast poor production.
Something to consider: The fact that WvA is sitting, basically waiting on the other side of the summit put Pogi in a position of threat. If He and Jonas are leading on the road, there is no worry about Jonas attacking because as long as he rides his own pace and stays close, he will close him on the decent. Whereas with WvA waiting there, he feels like he has to ride hard to prevent attacks because even a 10 second gap could turn into a minute+ if Wout is there to power Jonas down the hill.
Which is a genius bit of tactics, because if Jonas DOES feel like he can crack Pogi, then Wout is there to take him to the next climb with an even bigger gap, and in that case perhaps even pace him for the first k or so, but even when Jonas DIDN'T attack it still puts Pogi under immense pressure.
/edit: You actually talked about this 1 second after I paused to make this comment. :P
When WVA went up the road at the flag drop, why would the entire UAE team just let him go? Was it genius from Jumbo or a failure by UAE?
@@BizInTheFrontPartyInTheBack what UAE team? They have 5 domestiques left for Pogacar. Bjerg and Hirschi have looked absolutely terrible, probably because of sickness. They both finished behind Caleb Ewan today, among the last 5-10 riders to finish barely ahead of the time cut. They could barely do anything. And you cannot spend Majka, Bennett, and Soler when you need them for the mountains.
This is when having a joke team like UAE instead of Jumbo superteam hurts you so much
@@BizInTheFrontPartyInTheBack There's the small issue of being able to follow or catch WvA when he attacks. They'd have to waste an incredible amount of energy at the beginning of the stage if they want to have a chance to catch him
That UAE team is tired AF. They have been pacing for almost the entire TDF. They already lost a lot of energy. Meanwhile Jumbo could just sit 'easy' in the peleton and save their energy for moments like today. Except WVA, he just has a truckload of energy. That man is a beast. That's what I think.
Well Pogi could have just let Roglic or Vingegard go at say 60 or 50 km from the finish line. Ride his own pace just like them. Only if they are stronger they will stay before him. I dont believe in a domestique doing anything in stages like this. On the climb its man to man. On the descent it's just going downhill fast. Only for getting food or water they are useful in these stages. It's too though. Pogi maybe would still have lost some time that way but less than now..
This was one of the best stages Ive EVER seen my mouth dropped several times, i couldn't believe my eyes. I hope the battle ain't done yet
I can watch this rest of my lifetime - what a day of racing and I'm a really proud Dane 💛
Fellow Dane (ancestors ago, yes) here feeling proud with you friend!
i'm a pogi fan but i can't stop watching this video too. the way they relentlessly beat down pogi was a masterpiece. stronger teams will always beat the strongest rider.
@@pipolchamp8205 I'm a big fam of Pogacar aswell - those who isn't fan of him isn't fan of real cycling! But I just love to see cycling when everyone is going to their limit and even above, no bullshit just let the legs do the talking - that's what we all wanna see 🙌
@@pipolchamp8205 and Vingegaard showed already last year that's he is good, so we knew what show we could expect this year. But surely Pogacar will fight back and entertain us all - Vive le Tour 💛
One of the best ever stages I have watched
Omg! Just the opening seconds were amazing. Jumbo Visma riders were relentlessly attacking Roglic like a pack of jackals going in for the kill! And I haven’t even finished watching the vid.
*Pogacar
LR also got a bit confused about Poglic @1:42 hehe
@@racerjunkee Roglic will try to catch Roglic, that must be hard
Of course, I meant Pogacar. Thanks for pointing out my oversight.
One of the most exciting stages I've seen at the Tour. TJV were always going to take multiple attacks to Pogačar, and the contributions of Van Aert, Benoot, Kruijswijk and Laporte at various points should not be dismissed. A very different (thankfully) strategy to the old Team Sky approach of closing down attacks incrementally. Primoz Roglič was astounding and selfless. Nairo Quintana was aware that Barguil was suffering and proved right to attack. Bardet and Thomas showed their experience by challenging without going into the red, but Vingegaard's solo was a ride for the ages. Chapeau!
At 4:07 pretty funny. Pogacar flips his left elbow to Jonas asking him to come through. Jonas shakes his head. "Uh...no." "I'll be 'coming through' a little later though."
😂😂😂this was a really good take. I noticed this very same thing
Primoz catching Roglic by surprise 🤌🤌🤌
🧐🧐🧐
@@DonGroggy 1:38 😄
Same person
Personally I think Tadej's expression at the end of the stage is more "I FEEL SO ALIVE!!!" than defeat. I'm sure he wants to win but looks like it won't bother him if he doesn't. Enjoying the challenge and pushing himself to the limit. More interesting (for him and viewers) than if he just slam dunked every big stage. This tour has been really good!
He was still smiling in his interview, while congratulating Vingegaard, while doing the white jersey presentation. I'm beyond impressed. No one even would have blamed him if he would have shown disappointment or even anger, but the kid just smiled. Truly a great rider, on and off the bike.
@@Tibovl I think doping has a played a huge roll on how we use to see riders...allways nerves abouth controls, not showing emotions due to the feeling of not riding it clean.. These riders ride alot like you would see in a yung riders race, pure joy of racing and full gaz if the legs are in for it. what a joy
Incredible team performance from TJV.....so damn strong.....
If Pogi wins at the end, this will remain one of the highlights of a Tour we haven't seen since the Dark Ages. If he doesn't it will only make him better next year. We can only speculate what this Tour might have looked like with a healthy Roglič.
To old, the young guard are here sadly
Lol so pogi has one bad day and that means roglic would have dominated his ass the last two years ?🤣
@@iminc5498 I don't know, a Rog at the same level of the last 2 years would have at least finished a close 2nd behind Vingegaard today and with a better ITT, all cards would still be in play imo. At the very least we'd have seen a 2 JV rider podium.
Speaking of the dark ages, these climbs were a lot harder on bicycles made of stone. When men were men.
@@MDP1702 ummm what? Pogi 's ITTs are actually better. Not by much though. But definetly better.
What a Tour so far. 10th placed in GC has 13 minutes on mailloy jaune, afyer stage 11!! And Alpe d’Huez is still to come. We are truly blessed after the sky years
Great team work by Jumbo. I recall doing Alpe D'Huez when I got a chance to visit France, it was a ball buster of a climb.
Heck yeah
Not the Alp D'Huez that's stage 12
as someone who knowns nothing about cycling, I find these videos really help me understand and appreciate the sport more. great stuff!
Pog expended unfathomable amounts of energy the whole stage.... and discovered that even his energy wasn't limitless.
LR definitely deserves a lot of credit for calling out two weeks ago that this was where TJV was going to make the attack, and that the attack had a very good chance of succeeding.
Let's hope LR continues to be correct in his predictions, then we should see some great action in the Pyrenees and the final TT...
Well I guess others could have also told you this. Since it's the hardest stage of the Tour.
The entire Jumbo Visma team were just incredible this year! And Vingegaard got his first tour victory which was more than deserved!!
That shot at 3:37 feels like something out of Lord of the Rings @, with the Nazgûl chasing someone down.
Honestly, probably the best stage I've seen since I started following the tour in the mid 90s. The tactics from Jumbo Visma played out to perfection and the 1-2 punches from Vingegaard and Roglic is what we always hope for the GC-guys to try. After so many years of a dominant lock-down team that will swallow up all inklings of excitement, the duel of Vingegaard and Pogacar could very well last a decade. It's going to be awesome, in all of the true sense of the word.
Epic day. Great strategy by TJV. And Vingegaard was tired of being SECOND PLACE to Pogocar.
The last 2 TDF he was mostly solo and TJV finally realized they have the stronger team and isolated Pogi… what a textbook teamwork play by TJV! Absolutely spot on!
Jonas looks like the home alone kid and Pogi was the Wet bandits this stage
hahahaha
Hyenas picking off a lion, joking 🙃
Jonas was a monster 👹
LOL
People staring at me right now at the bus after reading your comment 😂
I simply ❤️❤️❤️ your commentaries. Especially you filling the gap as to what the riders would think or converse with his team is brilliant. Thank you!! Simply the best.
I remember a quote from Vingegaard from about a month ago or more, and I was surprised at how confident he was but he knew what he was talking about... he said something like "I could win the Tour this year..." something like that.
In an interview he said he has already tried to get 2nd place, so his goal is to do better this year
With the amount of juice they injected into him 6 weeks prior no wonder he is confident 😂
@@11-inch if he's not your guy he must be cheating. lame.
Jonas said already in January that he was gonna win this year. And he did. He was simply stronger than Tardej this year. Gonna be interesting next year :-)
Pogačar needs a stronger team if he wants to beat Jonas in 2023.
Just wait until tomorrow, let's hope the stage is even more exciting than today!
Was waiting for your video before going to bed
That was a pure tactical racing brilliance by JV today. It’s crazy to think it took the entire team pummelling Pog to make him lose 3 minutes.
They succeeded. 3 minutes is a huge margin. Especially with a climber like Vingegaard. And he isnt too bad at time trial either.
Think of the Team Sky days it’s not crazy to pummel one man and him still today when Movistar had the trident they tried pretty much the same thing against froomey and failed spectacularly
And let’s be honest it wasn’t the entire team pummelling him it was mainly Vingergaard and Roglic and it absolutely destroyed Primoz Vingergaard just had better legs than Pog
I actually think while it was a great stage, today is the stage where they have to defend yellow as a team. Today we see if they can pull it through or not :)
@@ChristianJosephs if any team can defend yellow it’s TJV they are in the position team sky were back in the 2010s
@@wargey3431 I totally agree, but I want to see it live today :D Pogi will be on the attack. At some point it will be Pogi vs Vingegaard again late in the stage.
Everyday I record the tour then watch it in the evening, fast forwarding through the uneventful bits so I can cram 5 hours into 3. No fast forwarding today however and so glad I record it as highlights do not do it justice. If people who think cycling is boring just watch a stage like this with good commentary that describes the tactics then they would be converts.
What a wonderful stage. This is what we've been waiting for, and oh boy did we get it.
My personal highlight of the stage was Jonas and Primož taking turns and attacking Tadej. Most say this was Tadej's tactical mistake but in my opinion, this just shows the respect Pogačar has for Roglič. They know each other better than anyone and Pogačar would never just let Roglič go. Despite Roglič's injuries and discomfort, he's still a force to be reckoned with and I doubt Pogačar knew the condition (and daily form) Roglič was in yesterday. For all he knew, Roglič could have had super legs yesterday and his back pain had finally subsided, so he just couldn't afford not to follow his attacks. Plus, this was the place where Roglič got his first TdF win back in 2017, attacking 34 km out. As we've seen, 2 or 3 minutes is not that much of a gap, and that could have easily been (a healthy) Roglič at the end instead of Jonas.
My only hope is to see Primož make a comeback, preferably at this year's Vuelta. He's still got too much of a fight in him to simply become and settle for a status of a super domestique for JV.
Wout still looked so good at the end, I have a feeling that he'll be able to repeat that again tomorrow. Really glad to see TJV apply some excellent tactics. Best TDF stage I've seen in years!
Wout is just incredible. Dropping the breakaway climbers with his 78kgs. If he had no responsibilities to his team I think he'd have taken this stage, or at least get another podium.
There won't be any need to attack now.
As Benoot said the whole tactic switches to defense. They had a tactic for months for Alpe d'Huez offense, but have to decide on a defensive tactic now.
Dude is doped up to the fucking gills
Incredible! Jumbo all in team work no egos, one goal, just destroy Pogi! But he isn't done just yet! It's time for the battle in the trenches to get dirty.
THERMO-BIBLICAL! Thanks LR! You made this stage infinitely more enjoyable with your commentary.
I feel like Pogi was let down so hard by the team, and Jumbo used the opportunity to the max wearing him down before the climb. And THEN he even pulled UAE for the bridging, as a nail in the coffin. An incredible athlete, but every body has limits.
Hirshi and bennet have covid, almeida also didnt come because of covid. It sucks, but dont count him out yet
@@anejtomazic5423 Yeah, it's not their fault, and he did everything he could. Losing to Covid must suck.
Looking back at it, it was the last time Pog wore the Maillot Jaune!
Pog did an incredible ride today - he dealt with all the 1-2 punches, then towed Jonas up the Galibier at a pace no-one else could do, and only really struggled on the upper slopes of the Granon. I don't think there's another in the Tour who could have done that. But he said that Jonas was the best climber in the world, and he wasn't wrong - doing all that work really cost him.
Thomas was a surprise - he was there for the 1-2 punches when no-one else had followed, and while he got dropped at the top of the Galibier and Granon, he rode at his pace and didn't lose too much time. I was also surprised by Yates - even though he paced sensibly across the whole day I still thought he would have been much further back.
Let's hope today is just as epic.
great analysis as always. Watched that Jumbo plan B movie just prior to the stage so i got quite excited about Jumbo lying down all their cards on the tarmac and getting the results in the end by complete obliteriation of the field and the gc. But a big gamble as well as u also said on ur pod. Also that smile from Roglic when he crossed the line and vingegaard pausing that interview for a hug with Wout told so much about the team. Unbelievable stage and such a beautiful sport. Can't wait for tomorrow
Kamaaaan Jonas Kamaaan!
This was peak TdF. In the toughest stages the strongest need a tow from a superstar team to final climb.
Thank you very much!
You showed us all the important details that were not included in any of the highlights. 👍
Best TDF mountain stage in the last 20 years.
So he is human after all. Amazing race. I had to stay up until 3am in NZ, but I couldn't sleep. Lots of coffee today.
BTW, I watched it live, and still came to watch your highlights. Keep it up!
Beautiful ride by Vingegaard.
I was wondering if Pogacar would like to take back the other day when he was whipping his teammates for no strategic benefit. He went looking for his team and they were gone. Well tomorrow, we could see a lot more UAE on the front controlling things. Vingegaard did an excellent job today, great teamwork for Jumbo. Wow!
Pogacar has met his match. Jonas does not realise how good he is , yet.
Now I know how Jonas fans felt to this day.Congrats to Jonas from SLO :)
Pogi will be an all time great if he comes back from this, if anyone can, he can. With the ITT in his back pocket also, he will still believe
He's already an all-time great. Even if he loses this TdF, he's 23 years old. Heck, he could retire today, and would be an all-time great.
He's also got them good doctors who will fill him up tonight, so should be at peak levels tomorrow while everyone else is tired
@@JR-xv6mv Hey, I don’t disagree. But this would be insane, for the record I think he comes back and wins.
In his interview after the stage, Jonas said he was on the absolute limit following Pogacar in the last 1km of Galibier. Can’t wait for the rest of race
@@iminc5498 no Vingegaard didn't say that he was on his absolute limit in the Galibier, what he said was the word "insecure" but what he meant was he wasn't sure if Pogi was on his limit or not that's why he didn't attack, it was at Col du Granon where he said that if he didn't try he won't know and he tried because if he didn't he wouldn't have won.
On the Galibier, if you look at Jonas' face he really wasn't on the limit, he was just getting a free ride behind Pogacar, compare that to his face on the last 3km of the Granon, that's where he tried to be close to his limits or at his limit.
But Vingegaard has a Better TT after 20 stages.. so nope 😜
Excited for Vingegaard but the Tour's end is still far away
IMO the best move from TJV all day was having Van Aert towing the group of GC favorites back up to Pogacar. It meant that during the last climb, Pogacar wasn't only fighting them, he and whatever he had left of his team had to be careful of everyone else in the group and in turn it resulted in the pace up the climb increasing significantly.
Strategy masterclass from TJV
I just started watching the tour this year, I missed about 5 stages leading up to this due to illness.
I am SO glad I managed to get better and watch the full stage. This one was amazing, unmissable even.
Pogacar is an absolute monster, I thought Jumbo wouldn’t break him down. Props to Vingegaard and the whole Jumbo squad. The strategy was amazing and great to see it pay off in a big way.
That was SO fucking exciting. Hyped for the rest of the tour.
The moment wout rog and the fdj train rolled past the gc guys was hilarious, wish you had the clip in there
Can’t remember a stage being this interesting. Them days with Froome were boring nobody was really attacking him imo but Jumbo today man… phew 🔥 this is the reason we watch tdf!!!
Yeah but froome attacking on a descent will always be a legendary moment
@@zigzagnemesist5074 that was legendary. I actually remember another intereseting stage. In 2019 when Alaphillipe lost his yellow jersey to Bernal in stage 18 I think and the race got stopped due to a snowstorm. Before the stoppage all the favorites were fighting for yellow that was a good day too
If Pogacar had a team like Froome had for his TDF wins, they’re be no attacking here either. Froome’s team was always OP, so there was no point in attacking.
@@iminc5498 I know & 100% but it’s like they weren’t even trying you know… it was boring but yeah Ineos was too good back in the day.
@A.L It was stage 19 to Tignes, Bernal attacked early on the Col de l'Iseran and was in virtual yellow at the top, then on the descent there was a storm over at the finish and a landslide meant the finish was cancelled and times were taken at the top of the Iseran
2:26 I don't think it's Pogacar being overconfident rather then him realizing what game Jumbo were playing. Help wasn't getting closer and he knew that he couldn't keep chasing back their moves. Therefore attacking and potentially opening a gap that would allow him to settle in a steady pace seemed like a reasonable option.
Very good recap of one of the greatest stages in TDF history, very well done mate
After having done 6.5 WOW!/kg for over two hours, Lanterne Rouge needed a bit of rest before making this video.
TJV was really putting in everything today. They knew they had to attack as long as their riders were capable of and the really put some fatigue into pogi so Jonas could deliver the perfect blow. GC is back on the table, lets see if they can repeat tomorrow so Jonas can have a chill ITT or if he has to put the hammer down to win. Absolute masterclass today from TJV
This stage brought to tears to my eyes
This masterpiece recap deserves an award. Well done. Thanks so much for the consistently amazing content.
Congrats to 1M views bro Lanterne
Once in a while I have to come back to watch this masterpiece of a stage.
The greatest stage in TDF history
I have watched this video several times. Iconic stage, and absolute gold from Lanterne Rouge as always. Thank you Patrick!
Watching this in 2024. I can say that Pogi matured and learned his lesson from this stage.
I’m exhausted just watching these highlights. What a day! Pure bike racing and team attacks all over the place.
Epic stage and the best TDF in years. JV where unbelievable as a team and Van Aert was a monster.
Good to see my guy Gradek getting some love. Mans flying completely under the radar
Team Jumbo is incredible. Once again Wout shows how crazy insanely good he is and how valuable he is for the team. He made almost 3 minutes on Barguil and saved a lot of energy pacing for Jumbo. Why was catching Barguil important? Vingegaard got those additional 10" bonus for the win in the end. So professional, masterpiece by Jumbo.
Btw look at Tadej at 5:50. His shorts are full of dried salt. According to an expert (former pro) in the stream I watched, that's not a good sign. Glad Tadej had a day like this, he made us believe he is human after all. I hope he can recover and make it still interesting. I honestly don't have favourites, I just enjoy the show.
Pogacar was left high and dry by his teammates. I suspect they'd not recovered from the 'forced marches' they'd had to do on previous stages... 🙄
Jumbo Visma have been very organised, so far. They took full advantage of an isolated Yellow Jersey.
Thanks again for your great coverage, sir! 👍
M 🦘🏏😎
How can a guy who has lost 2 team mebers due to Covid, plus have another 2 who are still in but who are clearly as sick as fuck (with it), be left 'high and dry' by them?. He's basically only got 3 team members left.
@@user-ui6kv2np8i 'High and dry' simply means he was left exposed.
The phrase does not impose blame.
My mind was blown, and my jaw was on the floor while I stood out of my seat. Couldn't believe it. I was both heartbroken for Tadej while cheering on Jonas to continue pouring on the pain. I thought Jumbo was crazy for seemingly abandoning Roglic for GC, but today's stage cleared that all up. I was also tellin my buddy that it isn't close to over yet. Let's not forget Tadej took the minute+ deficit to Roglic in one final stage just two years ago. What a badass tour so far.
The final TT is flat/ rolling terrain so there should not be huge time gaps between GC unless someone has a bad day.
Man ol man what a tour can't wait until tomorrow! Had to watch after work may watch again lol
I'm about to start watching this at half past 1 in the morning here in Aarhus, Denmark. Looking forward to your analysis and your thoughts. So exciting being a dane following cycling these days and your channel has impacted that interest so heavily!!
OVER AND OVER AND OVER, SO NICE
Beautiful stage..we needed that.
and what a blast to see that the Champ Pogacar is human.
Jonas Wingfarm also rattle Pogacar cage in last years TDF, but only momentary.
Its such a blast to see team like JV goes all out.
LETS GO! EMOTIONAL AFTER THAT VINGEGAARD ATTACK AND WIN
What a stage this was. What a Tour this was. Edge of the seat suspense pretty much every day. One of the best Tours in memory and a Tour that we will still talk about in 40 years like the 1986 tour.
Ive waited all day for your video and it didn’t disappoint. Today was insane. Nuclear watt bombs dropped everywhere
Almost a year later and I still watch the NBC extended highlights of last years TdF and watch them in glorious 4K HDR on my 70" television.
This might be the biggest win of all time for Lanterne Rouge! I didn't believe it was possible, but here it is: Termonuklear Jonas 🇩🇰
This might become his most watched video no?
I enjoy watching your commentaries much more than any of the "official" ones. And posted so quickly after the stage occured. Awesome job!
Watching TdF since 1980 (Joop Zoetemelk! TI Raleigh!) but - to be honest, had some sabbatical years during Armstrong's reign during the early noughties (hated the obnoxious guy even before his de mascarade some years later).
Never felt so emotional when this etappe rolled out with the last climb as it's culmination. Man, I must confess I shouted dewey eyed to the tele when Jonas made his final attack.
So grateful for the subtitles so I can read all about the cycling performances of Katana, Rockledge, Finger Guard and Pikachu.
Jumbo Visma double-triple attacks give a result,they got all energy of Pogacar and Jonas finished him on Col de Granon..What a stage,one of best at the TDF history..
Wonderful commentary and analysis!!!
After watching this year tour we can make the conclusion that Vingegard is better than pogcarh especially on the mountains so it wasn't just all the difference between teams.
Dude my man jonas is looking smoking hot, everybody was seemingly doubting him but he delivered big time today. TDF is back on!!!
Tactical masterpiece by Jumbo. WVA putting in work again!
I love your videos, i can really feel how much passion and work you put in them, love it!
I don't think he was feigning confidence. He was just wrong.
Easily the best coverage of stage 11 I've seen. Thanks for the great content!
Just a thrill to watch, all the way through.
Pogacar got a reality check on this stage - this is where he lost the Tour of '22.
The battle next year is going to be fantastic.
Great commentary! Love the video.
Heck of a stage, can't wait for the next one!
Back at it again! This is absolute peak bike racing!
Jonas Roglic are really having a Froomey Wiggins situation. Jonas is sooooooo good on ultra long climbs while still having elite level TT ability. It's the recipe for GC dominance aka the Froomey.
This video starts with 'one of the greatest stages in TDF history, ....'.
True, so true!
Pogi is a classy rider......shaking hands and giving Vinegaard a smile and congrats after the finish. That's what I like to see. This has been a great TDF so far.