As a pro bodybuilder v boring to listen too . I have a lot more to say about : volume vs lower volume , full range of motion - vs partial . Since competition bodybuilders build the most muscle then should be sorely the subjects of the research .
On the topic of “should you reduce volume while in a caloric deficit”, I don’t think the issue is whether or not a person has enough energy, I think a lot of times it comes down to recovery. Personally, I can’t recover as quickly in a deficit and have to reduce my volume, and sometimes even my frequency. Just something to consider.
@@lylemcdonaldisright hey lyle, didn't know you had a channel. I ll definitely check it out. I consider the UD 2.0 the best diet protocol by far for maintaining muscle.
I always get a little dicouraged after watching these when the title says its all about periodization and its not really delved into very deep. But i love all the information that is shared, keep it up guys.
In defense of Steve, it doesn’t say ‘all about periodization’. Also, what’s your suggestion of an alternative name? I’m honestly curious as I’ll be starting a podcast too and I’ll have the same problem.
@@spodergibbs5088 I think that’s a bit boring. The title eludes to Brad’s book Max Muscle Plan, so that’s another advantage. I don’t think many people would click on such a boring - and honest! - title.
I recently heard Steve hall podcast and there he asks Dr brad Schoenfeld about strength phases aiding in hypertrophy training and his rational was greater amount of mechanical tension for same amount of volume after strength phase. My understanding is that as long as you are going closer to failure within about 30reps for muscle growth, it does not matter how much weight you are lifting because if you are using heavy weight or light weight to reach failure is of less important, so how strength gains lead to better hypertrophy if it does not matter how much heavy u lift, if you going closer to failure? Thanks for your help.
You have to adapt and get stronger overtime :) So you want to use loads that allow you to train within the 5-30 rep range, and under 4RIR. It will go up overtime. Thanks for your question, and thanks for tuning in! - Coach Jess
@@ReviveStronger Steve has an amazing smooth voice it just sort of floats along ! Has he ever been a D.J ? He should also get the hair close cropped again it was a great look 👍👍
So if all junk volume is volume that isn’t being beneficial then would excessive warm up reps be considered junk volume? From a hypertrophy standpoint does it make more sense when working up to a weight you can handle for 10 reps to do say 2/3 reps per warm up or the full send 10 reps per warm up. Do those extra reps hold any merit or would it be right to consider that unnecessary so “junk volume” ?
I don’t think those ‘extra reps’ hold any merit, no. I’d consider them junk volume, yes. You should do your warm up sets/reps up to the point where you’re warm, the movement/technique with the working set’s load is dialed in and you feel confident about it. If the warm up results in a decrease of reps you had as the goal for the first working set, it is then too much. It shouldn’t produce any fatigue. If doing sets of 10+ reps you should probably be doing 2-5 reps with that same weight. I hope this helps.
I think depending on your targeted working rep range you'd want to adapt that, but 10 full reps for multiple sets sounds a bit excessive and overly fatiguing before starting your actual sets! It's nuanced, but I'd err on the side if less than more as long as you're warmed and the range of motion and muscle targeted are good to go! - Coach Jess
Idea for a reality TV show. Have a competition for a few training experts. They each get a group of trainees, and the group that gains the most muscle mass gets $1 million for the trainer. We'd get to see how much the experts follow their own advice. I have a hunch Schonfeld would use nutrient timing, lol.
I wish proper funding was available for deceisive info, rather than assuming and 'word-lengthening-commentary' of what we don't realy know. This isn't a disrespect to neihter Doc or Steve, they both do a great job, just me upset at how 'big-pharma/big-food' would rather fund-for-profit.
I don't think it's that simple, Mike did a presentation I think on study funding that was pretty eye opening. But yes, sadly there aren't many funding opportunities in bodybuilding in general. Thanks for sharing your thoughts and thanks for tuning in! - Coach Jess
Most of the answers go back and forth and will not hit the mark at all. DR. Brad Schonefeld should be practicing how to get to the point. He sidetracks the listener so many times that I already forget what was asked and what he tries to explain. For example, preserve muscle on 16:30 - what was the answer? This question/answer should be cut out, as it does not answer the question - junk volume to listen. And many other answers followed the same pattern as well. I love all the shows and love what DR. Brad Schonefeld is publishing but sadly my expectations were higher as the questions actually were great, sadly they weren't really answered :( would be lovely If Steve takes the time to summarize and publish his observations somewhere, which I am sure he will ;)
I know what you mean. He’s not a gifted speaker like Dr Mike. The knowledge is obviously top shelf but the delivery isn’t super like Mike. Tough act to follow Mike for any one. I also came away from listening slightly underwhelmed and this was not due to Steve’s questions or hosting which were top shelf as always. I guess we’re just spoilt with Dr Mike who is an incredible communicator. But we need to hear from others as Mike’s view isn’t the only one. We’re a tough audience!
So go listen to the hyper responders that look the way youd prefer. The most genetically predisposed to building muscle surely also do the most research on fundamentals for the average lifter, right?
Still the most underrated podcast on UA-cam. Should have way more subscribers.
Behind iron culture of course, Helms et Omar No1 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻
Thanks so much for this, we appreciate it :)
- Coach Jess
They're pretty cool too ;)
- Coach Jess
As a pro bodybuilder v boring to listen too . I have a lot more to say about : volume vs lower volume , full range of motion - vs partial . Since competition bodybuilders build the most muscle then should be sorely the subjects of the research .
On the topic of “should you reduce volume while in a caloric deficit”, I don’t think the issue is whether or not a person has enough energy, I think a lot of times it comes down to recovery. Personally, I can’t recover as quickly in a deficit and have to reduce my volume, and sometimes even my frequency. Just something to consider.
And yet some cretins recommend doing MORE volume on a diet. When recovery is worse. Cut volume, maintain intensity -> winning
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and anecdotes :)
- Coach Jess
@@lylemcdonaldisright hey lyle, didn't know you had a channel. I ll definitely check it out. I consider the UD 2.0 the best diet protocol by far for maintaining muscle.
I always get a little dicouraged after watching these when the title says its all about periodization and its not really delved into very deep. But i love all the information that is shared, keep it up guys.
In defense of Steve, it doesn’t say ‘all about periodization’. Also, what’s your suggestion of an alternative name? I’m honestly curious as I’ll be starting a podcast too and I’ll have the same problem.
@@franciscohestnes how about “a conversation about general training evidence”
@@spodergibbs5088 I think that’s a bit boring. The title eludes to Brad’s book Max Muscle Plan, so that’s another advantage. I don’t think many people would click on such a boring - and honest! - title.
@@franciscohestnes hmm I see. I wouldn’t say I’m great with titles. I sometimes think about suicide. I don’t know I might kill myself later.
Thanks for your feedback, and thanks for watching!
- Coach Jess
Only 26 more times to catch Dr. Mike!
Haha that's probably never gonna happen to be honest^^ Thanks for watching!
- Coach Jess
awesome stuff - would love more research on lengthened overload movements vs shortened and lengthened
We all would haha! Thanks for tuning in!
- Coach Jess
This is why i have subscribed, thanks.
Glad to hear this, hope you enjoyed the episode!
- Coach Jess
fantastic podcast!
Glad you enjoyed it! - Steve
I purchased Brad book and I reach Max muscle phase do I start from the beginning Max strength phase or do I repeat the last Max muscle phase again?
Great work you're doing Steve👍👏😎
Thanks so much, we appreciate it!
- Coach Jess
Overall, great discussion!
Thank you, i'm glad you think so!
- Coach Jess
I recently heard Steve hall podcast and there he asks Dr brad Schoenfeld about strength phases aiding in hypertrophy training and his rational was greater amount of mechanical tension for same amount of volume after strength phase.
My understanding is that as long as you are going closer to failure within about 30reps for muscle growth, it does not matter how much weight you are lifting because if you are using heavy weight or light weight to reach failure is of less important, so how strength gains lead to better hypertrophy if it does not matter how much heavy u lift, if you going closer to failure?
Thanks for your help.
You have to adapt and get stronger overtime :) So you want to use loads that allow you to train within the 5-30 rep range, and under 4RIR. It will go up overtime.
Thanks for your question, and thanks for tuning in!
- Coach Jess
Love Steves lose flowing informative style ! In many ways he is the Larry Grayson of bodybuilding 👍👍
Thanks for watching!
- Coach Jess
@@ReviveStronger Steve has an amazing smooth voice it just sort of floats along ! Has he ever been a D.J ? He should also get the hair close cropped again it was a great look 👍👍
So if all junk volume is volume that isn’t being beneficial then would excessive warm up reps be considered junk volume? From a hypertrophy standpoint does it make more sense when working up to a weight you can handle for 10 reps to do say 2/3 reps per warm up or the full send 10 reps per warm up. Do those extra reps hold any merit or would it be right to consider that unnecessary so “junk volume” ?
I don’t think those ‘extra reps’ hold any merit, no. I’d consider them junk volume, yes. You should do your warm up sets/reps up to the point where you’re warm, the movement/technique with the working set’s load is dialed in and you feel confident about it. If the warm up results in a decrease of reps you had as the goal for the first working set, it is then too much. It shouldn’t produce any fatigue. If doing sets of 10+ reps you should probably be doing 2-5 reps with that same weight. I hope this helps.
I think depending on your targeted working rep range you'd want to adapt that, but 10 full reps for multiple sets sounds a bit excessive and overly fatiguing before starting your actual sets! It's nuanced, but I'd err on the side if less than more as long as you're warmed and the range of motion and muscle targeted are good to go!
- Coach Jess
Idea for a reality TV show. Have a competition for a few training experts. They each get a group of trainees, and the group that gains the most muscle mass gets $1 million for the trainer. We'd get to see how much the experts follow their own advice. I have a hunch Schonfeld would use nutrient timing, lol.
lol sounds fun - Steve
Muscles have "diverse attachments"?? WTF? I thought they had an origin, and an insertion, no? What are these "diverse attachments"?
Second
third 🚛🚛❤️❤️🚚🚚🚚❤️❤️
Thanks for watching :)
- Coach Jess
I wish proper funding was available for deceisive info, rather than assuming and 'word-lengthening-commentary' of what we don't realy know. This isn't a disrespect to neihter Doc or Steve, they both do a great job, just me upset at how 'big-pharma/big-food' would rather fund-for-profit.
I don't think it's that simple, Mike did a presentation I think on study funding that was pretty eye opening. But yes, sadly there aren't many funding opportunities in bodybuilding in general. Thanks for sharing your thoughts and thanks for tuning in!
- Coach Jess
Most of the answers go back and forth and will not hit the mark at all. DR. Brad Schonefeld should be practicing how to get to the point. He sidetracks the listener so many times that I already forget what was asked and what he tries to explain. For example, preserve muscle on 16:30 - what was the answer? This question/answer should be cut out, as it does not answer the question - junk volume to listen. And many other answers followed the same pattern as well. I love all the shows and love what DR. Brad Schonefeld is publishing but sadly my expectations were higher as the questions actually were great, sadly they weren't really answered :( would be lovely If Steve takes the time to summarize and publish his observations somewhere, which I am sure he will ;)
I know what you mean. He’s not a gifted speaker like Dr Mike. The knowledge is obviously top shelf but the delivery isn’t super like Mike. Tough act to follow Mike for any one. I also came away from listening slightly underwhelmed and this was not due to Steve’s questions or hosting which were top shelf as always. I guess we’re just spoilt with Dr Mike who is an incredible communicator. But we need to hear from others as Mike’s view isn’t the only one. We’re a tough audience!
Thanks for sharing your feedback and suggestions!
- Coach Jess
We're definitely spoiled with Mike^^ Thanks for sharing.
- Coach Jess
Brad "ooooee" Schoenfeld
Hope you enjoyed the episode, thanks for tuning in!
- Coach Jess
Fuso ❤️❤️🚛🚛🚚🚚🚚💕🔥💕
Thanks for tuning in!
- Coach Jess
First!
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Thanks for the support!
- Coach Jess
Short answer: dont
Thanks for sharing your opinion ;)
- Coach Jess
Aqa
Thanks for watching :)
- Coach Jess
Though Brad is a PhD? It is not called lactic acid Brad. It is lactate. Come on bro!
Hyperthropy king. LMAO. Forever small.
50 sets per week, baby please
Would love to see what this keyboard warrior looks like. Apparently she’s that big, she doesn’t dare to put a profile picture. 👍
What a constructive comment, thanks for the algo ;)
- Coach Jess
So go listen to the hyper responders that look the way youd prefer. The most genetically predisposed to building muscle surely also do the most research on fundamentals for the average lifter, right?
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- Schoenfeld