Greg gives vague advice useful to people that just started lifting. Greg has no idea how to train. He has elite genetics . He knows fuck all about training structure outside of a novice level
@@konradsudyka4829 IFBB pros are notorious for giving bad training advice. Greg is better than most because of his kinesiologi background and previous powerlifting.
Konrad Sudyka stupid simple advice is what most people need. But honestly if you’re following these kinds of channels then you’re really past that point aren’t you?
Lol someone said greg doesn't know shit 😂 , go watch him before you judge , someone talking like you prolly doesn't even understand what mike's saying , go watch V shred buddy
As an intermediate level lifter, this video made me feel a lot better about myself and the current rut I find myself in. I now realize that I've been training unsustainably for the past 2 years, just pushing and pushing and pushing and that I needed this time to recover. I'm no high level elite bodybuilder or anything, but having these past couple months off must have been necessary. I think I'm ready to get back at it again. I also have a exercise science background so it's been nice getting some updated information on the current state of training regimens. Thanks for your video! I appreciate your work
@@vanhohenheim9249the dude was overtrained and once in that zone it can easily take months to recover. Sometimes few years. 1 deload week and 2 days off per week wont do shit then
Wow, I just discovered your channel for the first time and I'm astounded at the quality! How the hell is this free knowledge?? I have been getting more and more serious with climbing and calisthenics training during the past 12 months, and prior to that, I had consistent lifting experience for about 3 years. I thought that phase potentiation was something that I absolutely needed to start incorporating, but I have learned so much from your video. Thank you so much for your focus on which principles matter most depending on your level. I feel that I fall between "experienced beginner" and "intermediate" when it comes to lifting, and I'm definitely still a beginner on my gymnastic rings. I think I'm doing a good job with specificity and progressive overload, but I'm still learning how to structure my weekly routine to ensure I'm managing my fatigue properly. I've also never implemented deload weeks before and thought they were just something powerlifters do, but I see now that they are more generally applicable. I'm going to share this video with some workout buddies. Cheers!
Another great video, your content is very professional and I can tell you for a fact they are often better than the lectures I had on periodisation at university while studying sport and exercise science, so thank you for you great content.
@@Masterdesstruct well he if he is saying the generally same thing that is kinda close to what the evidence points to, its just hammering his point home, since not everyone has watched his past videos. I personally no longer watch all that much of his videos, but a lot of it is generally good advice
Just watched this for the second time. Really valuable. What seems to lack in most strength and hypertrophy advice is "who this ISN'T for." Not this video. I'm maybe a late beginner, early intermediate. Got my low bar squat 5RM to 122.5 kg with just specificity and overload using Starting Strength. Then started fatigue management, now 3RM 137.5 kg. Great to see the advanced training concepts put into context!
What I found from Uni lectures from my experience was programming didn't go into detail on what beginners, intermediates, and advanced trained people needed to do differently. That's the only nit-picking I can find. Mike you do a great job
As an older lifter, from your other videos an intermediate, I've noticed systemic fatigue can really overwhelm me if I don't rotate in easier days and weeks. If I don't, you are absolutely right that my body will force it anyway
I'm the 1400th like. 7 dislikes as of now. That's a 0.5% dislike rate, which is insane for a UA-cam video. But it's completely deserved. You guys provide such amazing information. I used to work out over a decade ago, but have recently gotten into it again and it's great. This information would have helped so much: scientific, precise, practical, and for a range of fitness levels.
i like both you need a coach sometimes and you need a Dr. the same clip.... but I'm glad I found this site Mike speaks my Lauggue and I wish i knew this a long time ago....but using it know
The fact that I got a quarter of the way into this and homies like bro listen if you're not Advanced just honestly move along I really appreciate that cuz I smoke weed I can't remember everything
Thanks for this video! Great info. I would call myself a beginner/intermediate as I have about 2.5 years experience. I only just now am really noticing full systemic fatigue and the real need for a deload week. I'm only now really starting to hit strength plateaus as well
Im 39. Been bodybuilding andnweight training since my teens.I went though a phase recently where I trained daily for almost 2 weeks straight take of 2 days. Repeat. I was going though depression and it was the only way for me to release those endorphins without need meds. And it worked. I did that for 3 months. My workouts were no where near intense or anything mentioning. I did full body workouts with legs being done either fordt or last. I did 1 set per bodypart. Super pump. In the end I gained 14lbs. Of lean tissue. And I was noticeably denser and leaner. Supplementation was exactly the same. And I'm no spring chicken. I'm buggered as to why this worked? I had no intention of growing tissue or anything. I actually accepted I may loose some weight. I didn't mind it.
Either you're a genetic outlier and this was just something possible for you that unlocked loads of gains, or your training had just never been high frequency enough until then, i.e. maybe you're someone who needs high frequency, or it was something like muscle water retention and glycogen increasing due to the high frequency. It's great that that worked for you but anyone reading needs to know it's very unlikely to ha have the same effect for them, watch Dr mike's videos about training frequency to see if you should experiment with this
@@pantopia3518 There are so many variables and a lot of what you mentioned are very plausible. I've since not gained size and have gotten leaner. People say I "look" bigger. Same weight, but it seems like my body did a decomposition. I can't seem to really train the way I want to because I'm up on my feet all day, and I anytime I push the weights higher, i can feel an injury looming around the corner. So I substitute with as much intensity as I can generate with a lighter weight and not go all out. so Yes, you're correct, i'm probably at about 50% intensity, still not sure why I'm making progress. Because it's the continual working out over time that builds up. either way, i've heard of other men like me who were shocked to make gains despite not resting and not having a high intensity
Man, i get you, i've been lifting for a while without really caring about periodization recently, only intuitive training since i study about exercise a lot(physio student), my main focus right now is my mental health lol so i've basically been doing whatever feels good to me and it feels sooooo good and im getting a lot stronger, i think every lifter should have a phase like that, its a really good experience !
@Soul I knew other people are experiencing this event. What is it? The variables were not different. Maybe I'm eating more? But really I'm not a big eater. At best. Maybe 1 meal more but I'm also training way more. It seems like everything I knew about stress and recovery has been thrown out the window
This information is supervaluable. Ive been approaching this phase potentiation intuitively for many many years. And it got me to a solid all round fitness level. However Ive hit the wall so many times because I didnt invest my time learning about this topic and the discovered science on this matter. Its very similar to pacing yourself in a marathon. You cant go full out all the time. You will be done within a few minutes. You have to manage your resources so you can peak at the crucial moments. What are some good resources to learn about this topic?
you could always just add girls in bikinis to the title and see if that helps the algorithm too I guess. I'm just trying to get in shape but I use the bodybuilding approach to follow along with my progress as I fine-tune my lifestyle changes and exercise routine. Thanks for all the great information and material to watch.
I've seen hundreds of videos from this guy and I always think of how confortable he sure is in that thick ass looking sofa while recording the vids. What a lucky guy
Ahhh... this has made it make sense to me! Its an Americanism that we don't have in the UK. PeePee over here is urine, not the apparatus it comes out of! Like, you'd drink peepee, not drink from a peepee... you know, if your into that 👀
A question that I have Dr Mike is, do the working sets count the same for bodyweight exercises. For example, I train with rings but also with weights. What is your opinion on that?
Since you mentioned different muscle groups having different fatigue thresholds. Based on how long or how quickly different muscle groups get fatigued is it advisable to run concurrent blocks (at different stages i.e. legs on active recovery while chest & shoulder on power block)?
Dr Mike what is your opinion on having desynced mesocycles for large group muscles to manage better systemic fatigue? Like week 1 for back is mev intensity, but is week 4 peak for chest and is week 2 moderate for legs or week 5 deload legs...would that overall help manage fatigue better ? Any literature on such ? To avoid hell week of peak for all.
With specificity Im having the problem with the forearms, with pullups my forearms are limiting my reps, same with deadlift even with dumbell flies, rows, etc. I was adviced I should not use straps/wraps so that my forearms "catch up" but in a PPL routine my forearms just don't rest. Im guessing the obvious is back off a little so they rest too
8 months later, how are you forearms doing? I used to have that problem, my forearms would get tired on lat pulldowns and even dumbbell incline bench. But over time your forearms get used to all the work and they get stronger and are able to handle all the training. I’m not sure how long you had been training when you posted this comment but I’m assuming that’s why. Took me a couple years actually to finally get through that. Keep pushing
I think that there is no real benefit for intermediates and beginners is true for hypertrophy. But for people who maybe train athleticaybe to run faster or jump higher there a real benefits. Because sprinting and jumping are so intense that the volume needed to purely progress with specific jumping und sprinting exercises is to high to sustain. So you kind of have to go their training cycles to not get injured.
Dr Mike doing an impression of Coach Greg?!? I almost choked on popcorn.
When?
@@Nihalshanu22 9:37
he actually hit him really good :D
It was a highlight for sure. Haha
@@Nihalshanu22 What do you mean, when? You did watch the video, right? I get this kind of comment when its a JRE but a 17min video? Dude.
Dr. Mike, I know is 10 months late, but I just have to say, you are really a true blessing to the industry!!!!
Greg is entertaining and is good at packaging good advice in a simple message. Personally I get way more value from Mike and RP.
Greg gives vague advice useful to people that just started lifting. Greg has no idea how to train. He has elite genetics . He knows fuck all about training structure outside of a novice level
@@konradsudyka4829 IFBB pros are notorious for giving bad training advice. Greg is better than most because of his kinesiologi background and previous powerlifting.
Konrad Sudyka stupid simple advice is what most people need. But honestly if you’re following these kinds of channels then you’re really past that point aren’t you?
Lol someone said greg doesn't know shit 😂 , go watch him before you judge , someone talking like you prolly doesn't even understand what mike's saying , go watch V shred buddy
Fads Fit When it comes to training Greg gives bad advice .
I showed up for the PP jokes.
Stayed for the PP jokes.
Came for the pp jokes
. . . Hardy har har
Same 😆
I wish this man was my sports physiology professor, the perfect mix of educational and humorous
Well, he is
The best youtube fitness channel by far. Amazing content as always.
One of the best videos on muscle building I've ever seen and I've seen a lot them during my many years of training. Thanks Mike.
As an intermediate level lifter, this video made me feel a lot better about myself and the current rut I find myself in. I now realize that I've been training unsustainably for the past 2 years, just pushing and pushing and pushing and that I needed this time to recover. I'm no high level elite bodybuilder or anything, but having these past couple months off must have been necessary. I think I'm ready to get back at it again.
I also have a exercise science background so it's been nice getting some updated information on the current state of training regimens. Thanks for your video! I appreciate your work
No way having months off is good for you whatsoever. 1-2 rest days? Deload weeks? Hell yeH
Bro did u quit and decide to hit it again? Lol months is a long time unless you got injured or something.
Same
@@vanhohenheim9249the dude was overtrained and once in that zone it can easily take months to recover. Sometimes few years. 1 deload week and 2 days off per week wont do shit then
Wow, I just discovered your channel for the first time and I'm astounded at the quality! How the hell is this free knowledge?? I have been getting more and more serious with climbing and calisthenics training during the past 12 months, and prior to that, I had consistent lifting experience for about 3 years. I thought that phase potentiation was something that I absolutely needed to start incorporating, but I have learned so much from your video.
Thank you so much for your focus on which principles matter most depending on your level. I feel that I fall between "experienced beginner" and "intermediate" when it comes to lifting, and I'm definitely still a beginner on my gymnastic rings. I think I'm doing a good job with specificity and progressive overload, but I'm still learning how to structure my weekly routine to ensure I'm managing my fatigue properly. I've also never implemented deload weeks before and thought they were just something powerlifters do, but I see now that they are more generally applicable. I'm going to share this video with some workout buddies. Cheers!
Most educational hypertrophy channel on the planet.
Another great video, your content is very professional and I can tell you for a fact they are often better than the lectures I had on periodisation at university while studying sport and exercise science, so thank you for you great content.
As a newly qualified personal trainer this stuff helps me so much, thank you!
I almost died at the coach Greg impression 🤣
that was the most new info i got as intermediate lifter. thank you!
In short PP becomes important when it's time for the real deal...
Hahaha
The new UA-cam fitness trend is “deload weeks are pointless.” Next year it’ll be “why deloads are vital for gains.”
Meanwhile guys like OmarIsuf will keep talking the same shit over and over with no real advice.
@@Masterdesstruct well he if he is saying the generally same thing that is kinda close to what the evidence points to, its just hammering his point home, since not everyone has watched his past videos. I personally no longer watch all that much of his videos, but a lot of it is generally good advice
It depends how you define deload weeks
Honestly I just lose my mind of boredom during a deload so I dont do it very often
@@Masterdesstruct I like Omar Isuf. He delivers the information in a fun relatable and condensed format.
Just watched this for the second time. Really valuable. What seems to lack in most strength and hypertrophy advice is "who this ISN'T for." Not this video.
I'm maybe a late beginner, early intermediate. Got my low bar squat 5RM to 122.5 kg with just specificity and overload using Starting Strength. Then started fatigue management, now 3RM 137.5 kg. Great to see the advanced training concepts put into context!
I feel like Dr Mike’s info will benefit me I the future more then it does rn
Still able to just lift eat and grow
What I found from Uni lectures from my experience was programming didn't go into detail on what beginners, intermediates, and advanced trained people needed to do differently. That's the only nit-picking I can find. Mike you do a great job
I say it on every video, this content is gold.
Me (a female): trying to think of a good urine joke
Dr. Mike (a male): definitely taking about a different pp
The peepee is called the peepee because pee comes out of it.
There, you learned something other than periodization
I'm sure Dr. Mike appreciates all PP jokes.
16:48 - key point. Sometimes you *know* it's unsustainable. There is no other choice - you have to take downtime after it by definition.
As an older lifter, from your other videos an intermediate, I've noticed systemic fatigue can really overwhelm me if I don't rotate in easier days and weeks. If I don't, you are absolutely right that my body will force it anyway
A year later. What a great video.
This video is by far the most educated, addressed and well explained use if clickbait in youtube. Thank you, Mike, for this moment of my life 🤣👍
That Gregg Voice was NEAT (ROFLMAO)
Literally what I’ve been trying to find out the last couple of days. Nice!
dude you are amazing thank GOD we have this info here
Excellent content. This Is why I keep coming back ro youtube even when they block me as a thought criminal.
Explained so well a 10 year old would understand. Thanks Doc!
Mike is the god of perfect analogies.
Thanks for the honest commentary.
Great stuff. The survivor bias mention there at the end(ish) was quite the call out.
I love these. I learn stuff but its delivered in a way that is easy to pick up and doesnt feel like the videos drag on.
Thank you for that free high level education sir! Much appreciated 👍
Dr Mike with another excellent video with excellent content!!!👌👍👏💪😎
Amazing information!! Thank you Dr
Such good content on this channel. Thanks !
Wow that is the Most Valuable information dense lecture on the subject of strength and conditioning training I have ever heard in 17mins ! Subbed
I'm the 1400th like. 7 dislikes as of now. That's a 0.5% dislike rate, which is insane for a UA-cam video.
But it's completely deserved. You guys provide such amazing information. I used to work out over a decade ago, but have recently gotten into it again and it's great. This information would have helped so much: scientific, precise, practical, and for a range of fitness levels.
That was an awesome lecture. Thank you for the knowledge!
Renaissance phased potentiation has a ring to it
Thank you.
markus rühl absolute legend
Yes sir I am intermediate but good to know so then I can implement it after many years of training.
Gawdd a friggin love Mike's analogies
you are the lord of the good informations, thank you
Such an amazing person you are 🤍
Great insight to prioritize the principles. That simplifies so much of what was confusing to me.
i like both you need a coach sometimes and you need a Dr. the same clip.... but I'm glad I found this site Mike speaks my Lauggue and I wish i knew this a long time ago....but using it know
Mike is simply brilliant.
Salute to you ❤ your channel is important
The fact that I got a quarter of the way into this and homies like bro listen if you're not Advanced just honestly move along I really appreciate that cuz I smoke weed I can't remember everything
9:37 - 9:41 - Nope I’m done 😂😭😂😭
*Greg Doucette has entered the Chat*
Mike’s the best tho
Blaze i know them they are from Russia
"I'll be posting mine later" LMFAO 🤣Great video as always Mike!
Ok, I'll come back to this video in 3-5 years
Thanks Mike, now that's a big PP
13:37, gold
I love Gregg & Mike
Give us examples of long term periodization! I mean with set numbers and priorization variations pleaseee
Mike is the man!
5:25 Is Dr. Mike a gamer confirmed?
Doctor Mike and Sean Naleyanyj are probably the two most trustworthy individuals in the fitness industry
dont forget daddy noel
@@kurkurehatake878 ofc ♥️🙏
Thanks as always Mike
I just laughed so hard. PP.. we are all so immature and I love it.
12:40 "when pp becomes important"
I can save you some time, the pp is always important.
Thanks for this video! Great info. I would call myself a beginner/intermediate as I have about 2.5 years experience. I only just now am really noticing full systemic fatigue and the real need for a deload week. I'm only now really starting to hit strength plateaus as well
literally, same here, 3 and a half years in respectively
Im 39. Been bodybuilding andnweight training since my teens.I went though a phase recently where I trained daily for almost 2 weeks straight take of 2 days. Repeat. I was going though depression and it was the only way for me to release those endorphins without need meds. And it worked. I did that for 3 months. My workouts were no where near intense or anything mentioning. I did full body workouts with legs being done either fordt or last. I did 1 set per bodypart. Super pump. In the end I gained 14lbs. Of lean tissue. And I was noticeably denser and leaner. Supplementation was exactly the same. And I'm no spring chicken. I'm buggered as to why this worked? I had no intention of growing tissue or anything. I actually accepted I may loose some weight. I didn't mind it.
Either you're a genetic outlier and this was just something possible for you that unlocked loads of gains, or your training had just never been high frequency enough until then, i.e. maybe you're someone who needs high frequency, or it was something like muscle water retention and glycogen increasing due to the high frequency. It's great that that worked for you but anyone reading needs to know it's very unlikely to ha have the same effect for them, watch Dr mike's videos about training frequency to see if you should experiment with this
@@pantopia3518 There are so many variables and a lot of what you mentioned are very plausible. I've since not gained size and have gotten leaner. People say I "look" bigger. Same weight, but it seems like my body did a decomposition. I can't seem to really train the way I want to because I'm up on my feet all day, and I anytime I push the weights higher, i can feel an injury looming around the corner. So I substitute with as much intensity as I can generate with a lighter weight and not go all out. so Yes, you're correct, i'm probably at about 50% intensity, still not sure why I'm making progress. Because it's the continual working out over time that builds up. either way, i've heard of other men like me who were shocked to make gains despite not resting and not having a high intensity
Man, i get you, i've been lifting for a while without really caring about periodization recently, only intuitive training since i study about exercise a lot(physio student), my main focus right now is my mental health lol so i've basically been doing whatever feels good to me and it feels sooooo good and im getting a lot stronger, i think every lifter should have a phase like that, its a really good experience !
@Soul I knew other people are experiencing this event. What is it? The variables were not different. Maybe I'm eating more? But really I'm not a big eater. At best. Maybe 1 meal more but I'm also training way more. It seems like everything I knew about stress and recovery has been thrown out the window
Excellent informative video as well as funny!!!!
Dr Mike's workout plans remind me of neural net architecture
5:59 totally agree its fking good to know
Yay someone wants to actually see it
Great video man learned a lot!!!
you killed me with the greg doucette gilbert gottfried yago impression xDD
i was a beginner when tried first time a periodisation, i had improved deadlifts and bench press (40pounds, 20pounds) in 2 month. Then got injured.
Is RIR and volume progression included in this for intermediates?
Yep. That would be the overload part.
This information is supervaluable. Ive been approaching this phase potentiation intuitively for many many years. And it got me to a solid all round fitness level. However Ive hit the wall so many times because I didnt invest my time learning about this topic and the discovered science on this matter. Its very similar to pacing yourself in a marathon. You cant go full out all the time. You will be done within a few minutes. You have to manage your resources so you can peak at the crucial moments. What are some good resources to learn about this topic?
Great lecture Mike!
Good, cheers Mike!
This is a very useful video!
you could always just add girls in bikinis to the title and see if that helps the algorithm too I guess. I'm just trying to get in shape but I use the bodybuilding approach to follow along with my progress as I fine-tune my lifestyle changes and exercise routine. Thanks for all the great information and material to watch.
how do you train/what is the difference between hypertrophy and strength training
I've seen hundreds of videos from this guy and I always think of how confortable he sure is in that thick ass looking sofa while recording the vids. What a lucky guy
I love the example of a gaming PC. They really simplify this stuff.
thank you sir .
I think the most important takeaway was Mike telling me not to upgrade my graphics card.
Worth the watch just for the Greg Doucette impression
So do you carry the volume over to the next mesocycle following a reload week?
How important is PP size?
Ahhh... this has made it make sense to me! Its an Americanism that we don't have in the UK. PeePee over here is urine, not the apparatus it comes out of! Like, you'd drink peepee, not drink from a peepee... you know, if your into that 👀
I’ll be back in a few years when I’ve got the experience…
A question that I have Dr Mike is, do the working sets count the same for bodyweight exercises. For example, I train with rings but also with weights. What is your opinion on that?
Since you mentioned different muscle groups having different fatigue thresholds. Based on how long or how quickly different muscle groups get fatigued is it advisable to run concurrent blocks (at different stages i.e. legs on active recovery while chest & shoulder on power block)?
Probably not. You should adjust per muscle volume so they're all hit accordingly and recovered on time.
Periodization is about going with the flow...
what's the difference between 'stimulus recovery adaption' and 'fatigue management'? they sound the same
This video was amazing
Renaissance phase potentiation?
mike is god damned hilarious on top of being so knowledgeable.
Dr Mike what is your opinion on having desynced mesocycles for large group muscles to manage better systemic fatigue?
Like week 1 for back is mev intensity, but is week 4 peak for chest and is week 2 moderate for legs or week 5 deload legs...would that overall help manage fatigue better ? Any literature on such ? To avoid hell week of peak for all.
With specificity Im having the problem with the forearms, with pullups my forearms are limiting my reps, same with deadlift even with dumbell flies, rows, etc. I was adviced I should not use straps/wraps so that my forearms "catch up" but in a PPL routine my forearms just don't rest. Im guessing the obvious is back off a little so they rest too
8 months later, how are you forearms doing? I used to have that problem, my forearms would get tired on lat pulldowns and even dumbbell incline bench. But over time your forearms get used to all the work and they get stronger and are able to handle all the training. I’m not sure how long you had been training when you posted this comment but I’m assuming that’s why. Took me a couple years actually to finally get through that. Keep pushing
I think that there is no real benefit for intermediates and beginners is true for hypertrophy. But for people who maybe train athleticaybe to run faster or jump higher there a real benefits. Because sprinting and jumping are so intense that the volume needed to purely progress with specific jumping und sprinting exercises is to high to sustain. So you kind of have to go their training cycles to not get injured.