Hanging out in the comments for a few hours everyone. I know this is more of a technical video but....MAN was it interesting to make. If you have questions let us know and we'll do the best to answer! Also, 'TAU' not T.A.U. LOL
i like the idea for the profiles --- if you can review Eluktronics Mech 15 G3 this idea is even implemented better if you can review one of Eluktronics laptops we will appreciate it
@@HardwareCanucks yes, the six-cores Intel CPUs since i7-8750h really require undervolts to stay under 90C temps. I just wish there were more guides on undervolting different GPU models.
Tubuntu2 I’ve never needed to undervolt a laptop gpu to optimise performance. That being said I’ve never had anything hotter than a 1060 in a laptop. But that gpu never went over 75C.
@@sandeshrajbhandari8952 I think that's largely due to how cooling and power plans are approached by the manufacturer. In this notebook's case, temperatures never got near that level on a constant basis when running at full load.
Plugged: Performance. Portable: Balanced Great content as usual! Wasn't expecting such a small difference in battery life on light workloads. Might leave it on high performance all the time lol
Hey. How are you loving the gaming performance and how is the build quality ...is it easy to carry ( ik it's a bit heavy), mainly I wanted to ask ...How does it look ..does it feel stealthy , sleek and sexy ?
Thanks for the analysis. Laptop manufacturers have been implementing inbuilt power modes for a while now. Gigabyte give you 5 power modes on the CPU. Eluktronics on the their Mech 15G3/Max 15/Max 17 have a PL1 and PL2 of 120w on the i7 10875h plus undervolting in BIOS - so CB R20 is 4200 points... I have the Legion 7i, and I can get it to run with a PL1 of 105w but unfortunately without an UV (only available in original V2.0 BIOS) it power limit throttles. It would be good to see you cover undervolting, especially now since many OEMs are blocking it, because its the only way to get these 14nm chips perform anywhere near the Ryzen chips. For example, my i9 9880h with an UV scores 3900 points in CB R20 - higher than the i7 10875h at 95w...
isnt a i9 a higher tier processor ? and isnt the i7 that you mention a entire generation ahead ? what do you even mean by comparing them ????? w0t let me compare a intel pentium dual core with a quad core destop cpu ??? w0t
TBH this single test made me love this channel, this type of stuff is usually missed by other respectable YT reviewers, although it does look a lot of work, but its really really cool and it helps the consumer to decide for the laptop. Love to see more stuff like this.
I feel like Eluktronics has been doing this for a while. Their plan settings gimp the CPU but keep full power to GPU. It keeps gaming on par and much cooler/quieter
@Samim Ahmed Thats absurd effort for a laptop and it would void the warranty. He also didn't reveal the solution after selling it for over a year. He and other youtubers went on and on and on about copper being fine. How many laptops do you think liquid metal has ruined?
I'm curious if this applies to AMD systems as well. As far as I know, OEM's messed up the thermals of most systems especially the asus tuf series and the zephyrus g15.
Haven't seen the G15 but one of the main reasons why the TUF gets a bit hot is because the Ryzen CPU runs at a higher package power than any other AMD notebook we've seen so far.
it's cuz Asus closed up the vents on both laptops, the TUF A15 barely had any vents underneath and the ROG Zephyrus G15 vents were closed up by a sheet of plastic, dunno why Asus would do that to their somewhat flagship laptop tbh
@@lucas_vlanc yeah bro, hardware unboxed did a deep dive into the situation and even modded the chassis to compare results, they also spoke to Asus about the issue and Asus gave their reasoning behind it, they also had to buy a retail unit for the test which sucks
I have Legion y740 (the predecessor of 7i) with i7 9750h and RTX2070 MaxQ. When I am working I keep it in quiet mode, because it gives me enough power for everything and is basically noiseless. When I game I put performance mode because I want all the power I can get, I have observed that gaming on balanced mode make the laptop actually hotter, I guess it is because the fans are not going full speed all the time.
Great video, great research and explanation of results. It's very apparent that you found your results interesting and you wanted to share them, and that really came through, nice to see.
That was an awesome video. It was full of excellent information and in-depth research on everything that I look for in a notebook that my clients need and want. Thank you Ebert.
Thanks for this excellent follow up video. Really compliments your initial review from a few days ago. Hope to see this more often. Liking the time stamps too. Cheers
@@charlesdomain9196 AMD isn't we'll optimized for a lot of apps even some games I had when I had my 3900x was just worse with issues. Intel processors right now are a way smarter choice. Y'all just fanboy a company.
Whenever I see Intel being featured in UA-cam videos, I automatically assume they made it to distract us from the superior Ryzen in both performance and battery life
I just want to address this. We need to promote a HEALTHY competition. Remember, AMD is a publicly traded company just like Intel so their first responsibility is to their shareholders. Having one or the other dominating for too long would lead to exactly the same situation we saw with Intel until Ryzen was launched. We LOVE seeing competition but we also need to have both Intel and AMD reacting to one another rather than leading by a massive amount. Otherwise, we the consumers get screwed.
I'd love to know which Advanced Optimus setting was being used for the battery life tests. Does disabling the dGpu completely vs having it in hybrid mode make a difference? With this being the first, and currently only, laptop with this feature, it would be really nice to see some testing involving it.
How come some other gaming laptops that switch between discrete and integrated graphics can have much longer battery life? Doesn't this have advanced optimus?
I might be wrong, but i think because this has way higher specs with an i9 hk and a 2080 super max q in it probably just sucks way more power than it needs. The lower spec models might have better battery. Then again there is so much settings tweaking you can do to really push that battery as far as possible
Really a great laptop!! Was considering to buy this beast but somehow I also love Dell XPS 17. Could you make a comparison between these two amazing laptops in your future videos? really appreciate and great channel indeed!
@@HardwareCanucks The front panel chokes off virtually all airflow to the front fans and the top exhaust is choked off as well from the top panel. This causes increased permeation issues as well for any CLC you are running. For comparison I built in the loque ghost s1 SFF PC recently and get significantly better thermals off air cooling at a fraction of the case size. Also if you look around online I'm not the only one with these issues, which is why people are modding to increase the front panel distance or CNCing the front with mesh pattern (expensive mod). It's a lower volume case, so we rely on guys like you who are willing to review these more niche cases and the dam good award was a huge influence on my purchasing decision back then. As I've learned more about cases it's become clear to me the evolv mATX was not a good purchase overall. I've noticed you guys taking more care in terms of reviewing airflow in cases so it would be nice to get some updated thoughts on some of these cases since they are still available for purchase.
I don’t mean to nitpick, but I noticed that you said “literally no difference” in the Premiere Pro benchmarks between the three power profiles when there is clearly a 0:30 second time difference between the silent and performance profiles. A literal difference of none would mean that there is actually no difference.
Turn the performance up until the fan noise is just too much, then down just a little. Newer fans seem to be a lot quieter, assisted by vapor chambers. Max is for the day before a deadline only
FYI this has a huge design problem where the lid holding the screen cracks because of the hinge design. In my local Legion Facebook group alone, 4 users had that problem. Many have also shared the same experiences on reddit. Good thing this comes with a 3 year on site warranty on my country.
@@flood2k3 yep. Just type legion 7i hinge on reddit and UA-cam. and the number of 7i users in my group who had this problem has risen to 7. Definitely not isolated cases.
Great stuff - when testing performance mode was the Nvidia control panel set to High Performance or optimal? (Sorry if some one asked this already). I would be interested if Lenovo overrides that adjustment.
I wanted to ask you to help me, I am between this Lenovo Legion 7i laptop and the HP OMEN 15 2020 which of the two is better, the chassis, the temperatures, the battery, which one do you think is better?
I know that they allow these cpus to clock super high for short, fast'n'heavy workloads and makes them feel snappy, but i wish that there were modes that ramp up the frequencies more slowly but allow the fans to ramp up at the same rate so you dont get whisper quiet -> jet engine and back to whisper quiet... My laptop is from 2012 but i was able to keep the battery life in check by creating a power setting with steady clock speeds, somewhere between stock and max turbo, which really did give me a more snappy system for every day use, and then a 85% of max turbo clock speed setting for whenever im plugged in, with ok fan curve.
I have this laptop. It's such a beautifully designed laptop. The thermals are decent, can be better, but the screen, speakers (for a gaming laptop) are amongst the best, the performance is great, it's lovely. The IO is out the back of the laptop, I love this laptop.
Great video. However I wish you would have used a free program to stress the CPU and GPU independently such as Cinebench R20, Prime95. Furmark. CPU load only test and CPU+GPU load test so that viewers could more easily identify if the same model laptop has similar results. I have the legion 7i with the 10750h and cannot maintain 80watts PL1 without heavily thermal throttling at around 94c and wattage dropping into 60-70s. Thinking I may have a mounting pressure issue with heatsink as I have already repasted.
With my XPS 13 9300, there are four modes. I keep it in optimised, but switch to Ultra performance when using CAD and rendering. I also leave it in quiet when in classes, and cool when I am not doing anything intensive
@@HardwareCanucks It's actually quite good, I can see a noticeable difference in the fan noise and temperature. But, I'm not too sure that the performance does much other than let it reach high temperatures!
I think what happened in gaming load when 7i is (under Balanced mode), the CPU drop it's TDP from 45W to 30W while GPU increases TGP from 80W to 95W. This is Nvidia's Dynamic Boost When there is only GPU load, TGP will be 105W for Max-Q equipped 7i (109W for 2060)
I'm using the Legion 5 15 with Ryzen 4800H. I don't even need to use turbo mode for games because the highest gpu offered is the gtx1650ti. Balanced mode max out the gpu at 99% with 20-30% CPU only. I use turbo mode for editing and rendering videos.
Legion 5 (AMD) is definitely my favourite gaming laptop, the only drawbacks are the numpad on the keyboard and no dedicated buttons for the trackpad, probably gonna get it when 1660Ti and 80Wh battery configs are available in my country
Curious to see what the setting difference was because I've seen some people able to get 6-7 hours of battery life from the same specs. What do you think they did differently? Also does the lowest power mode change the hz to 60 on the display?
My laptop is set to balanced almost all the time. If I do plan on gaming for a while I'll turn on performance mode if I remember to, and battery mode if I know I'll be away from the wall for a while.
I simply don’t understand how you managed to have almost 6 hours of web browsing. I’ve tried almost anything already (using quite mode, disabling the dGPU, power saver in windows, reducing the luminosity to 30%, using throttlestop to disable turbo boost, installed Intel XTU and undervolt it) and in this condition on my L 7i 10875H Nvidia 2060 i can get maximum of 3 hours(180 min) of really light web browsing. What is the catch ?
Thank you, man! I have come across most of your reviews. Your review is thrilling combining your voice, analyses, presentation, and video angle. However, suggest me a laptop with maximum priority on CPU GPU combination (intel 7 11th gen or ryzen 7 5000 series, graphics as you prefer). I am a heavy user of regular tasks (productivity, programming, and a bit of gaming)
Good question. It REALLY depends on what you need. The G14 is more of an all-round notebook that's also good at gaming. The screen size isn't great for gaming though. We prefer 15" and above for a gaming notebook.
Anyone who's gaming, it's already a compromise not having a PC and using a laptop instead either for budget or mobility reasons as an adult and in such cases mostly, the laptop is plugged in all the time anyway either in office or home etc. So, the first settings change it receives as XMP profile in PCs is Performance mode in Laptops to compensate not having a PC instead. If it's something like Canteen or College, that means, even if I have money this would be my one computer anyway as to living in hostels or boys PG rooms.
Function + Q cycles through the Power modes The power button is BLUE = SILENT Light TEAL = AUTO RED = PERFORMANCE So why in your charts do you use RED = AUTO Light TEAL = PERFORMANCE PINK(?) = SILENT It would have been so easy to make your chart colours the same as the power button :(
On y540 how can I know which performance mode currently I'm running? I switch it with Fn + Q but the only way to know which I'm using is to enter the lenovo vantage app. Outside the app there's absolutely no visual info which mode is currently running. Any ideas?
auto and balance are two different words and were used in this pc as the same, it felt so odd to hear it multiple times being called one or another as the "same" mode xd
Hello, I accidentally removed one of the power plans and after redownloading and reinstalling them there is a difference between quiet and balance mode, but there are no differences between balance and performance mode. What can I do?
I'm using a ROG G531GT(intel i7 9750h; gtx 1650) and I usually keep it on silent both plugged and on battery and only switch to high performance when gaming or when I need higher cpu performance for tasks like compiling. It does nice job of keeping everything snappy enough on silent mode for me not to notice while working on it and It also has the added bonus of keeping the idle temperature lower (because of the lower power usage in that mode)
I have the Legion 7i with i7-11800H and GeForce RTX 3070. Purchased for machine learning applications rather than gaming. It came with Lenovo's beefy (and heavy) 300W power adapter. I use the quiet mode most of the time. I am disappointed that the machine usually consumes 35-50W during my normal use, but when I use a 100W USB PD power brick, or even a 135W Lenovo brick, it won't keep the battery charged. I turn on the notebook with a fully charged battery and plug in one of the the lower power output bricks, but it still lets the battery level drop. So traveling w/o that heavy 300W brick isn't an option. Surely this is a firmware or BIOS issue that could be fixed! Otherwise, it's BY FAR the fastest, most powerful laptop I've ever encountered.
While playing eSports game I switch to balanced mode but while playing high demanding AAA titles like RDR 2, I switch to performance mode and I can't compromise on that
About gpu speeds being lower on high performance, it's probably because heatpipes are shared, so the higher temps in the cpu at high performance raise the temps of the gpu by a few degrees too, hence lowering it's core clock due to nvidia's gpu boost technologie, wich is highly dependant on temps.
That's certainly possible but the CPU temps were really good. This could just be a matter of Legion prioritizing certain components in different power plans as well.
Please compare the liquid metal cooling impact in gaming laptops, you might say that one would void the warranty but I am saying about the newly launched Asus rog strix g and scar series laptop those incorporate liquid metal cooling, does this effect the temperature?, it would be nice to see, which is more efficient in cooling:- liquid metal cooling (ROG) or vapour chamber cooling (used in the lenevo 7i)
Great video .I Just gut mine with 2070 max q and it’s an outstanding laptop coming from my Alienware high end laptop , I installed intel xtu and noticed power limit throttling even with temperatures at only 65-70 degrees .. I’m puzzled
Hi ! i am only getting 2 hours of battery use , very light use of only web browsing and youtube .! i even uninstalled Icue and when on battery i turn all lights off and use quite mode , did i get a faulty unit ? should I return it ?
So from all videos on UA-cam what I learned is ? 1. Increase in temperature always shorten life span 2. Pushing above tdp increase the chance of device failure 3. When buying laptops especially to play AAA games in ultra settings and getting FPS above 70 is really difficult with current 2000 series GPU of Nvidia . 4. Laptops need to come with a evolutionary cooling . 5. Legion 7 vapour chamber is a marketing gimmick this video proves .
Hanging out in the comments for a few hours everyone. I know this is more of a technical video but....MAN was it interesting to make. If you have questions let us know and we'll do the best to answer! Also, 'TAU' not T.A.U. LOL
When it will be available to buy in Spain?
@@MrAlfonsohid Should be soon I'd imagine. Stock situation in the EU has been a bit tough due to COVID but that should change quickly.
@@netio112 What region are you in? Seems to be working in Canada and the USA.
i like the idea for the profiles --- if you can review Eluktronics Mech 15 G3 this idea is even implemented better if you can review one of Eluktronics laptops we will appreciate it
What about the display, hdr and 500nits?
GPU and CPU undervolting are so useful to manage Temps and increase performance for gaming Laptops. Please make more of these.
Sure. There is a threshold though where some CPUs and GPUs don't react nearly as well to under-volting as others.
@@HardwareCanucks yes, the six-cores Intel CPUs since i7-8750h really require undervolts to stay under 90C temps. I just wish there were more guides on undervolting different GPU models.
Tubuntu2 I’ve never needed to undervolt a laptop gpu to optimise performance. That being said I’ve never had anything hotter than a 1060 in a laptop. But that gpu never went over 75C.
@@sandeshrajbhandari8952 I think that's largely due to how cooling and power plans are approached by the manufacturer. In this notebook's case, temperatures never got near that level on a constant basis when running at full load.
**cries in AMD**
Plugged: Performance.
Portable: Balanced
Great content as usual! Wasn't expecting such a small difference in battery life on light workloads. Might leave it on high performance all the time lol
i'm watching this on my legion 7i， really a great laptop!
Hey. How are you loving the gaming performance and how is the build quality ...is it easy to carry ( ik it's a bit heavy), mainly I wanted to ask ...How does it look ..does it feel stealthy , sleek and sexy ?
How is the fan noise whiney or just whooshing 😂
@@dhxxmik5796 it's an amazing laptop. Screen is bright and it looks amazing. I owned Razer blade I would get 7i
And really you hear this strange conductor sounds in very silent room?
How is the battery life? Would you recommend it to a student in college? I'll need to do lots of 3d modeling.
this type of stuff is what everyone wants to see, kudos for doing this, really appreciated
Thanks for the analysis. Laptop manufacturers have been implementing inbuilt power modes for a while now. Gigabyte give you 5 power modes on the CPU. Eluktronics on the their Mech 15G3/Max 15/Max 17 have a PL1 and PL2 of 120w on the i7 10875h plus undervolting in BIOS - so CB R20 is 4200 points...
I have the Legion 7i, and I can get it to run with a PL1 of 105w but unfortunately without an UV (only available in original V2.0 BIOS) it power limit throttles. It would be good to see you cover undervolting, especially now since many OEMs are blocking it, because its the only way to get these 14nm chips perform anywhere near the Ryzen chips. For example, my i9 9880h with an UV scores 3900 points in CB R20 - higher than the i7 10875h at 95w...
isnt a i9 a higher tier processor ?
and isnt the i7 that you mention a entire generation ahead ?
what do you even mean by comparing them ????? w0t
let me compare a intel pentium dual core with a quad core destop cpu ???
w0t
great video, great data. great everything man!!! quality of content is great man
TBH this single test made me love this channel, this type of stuff is usually missed by other respectable YT reviewers, although it does look a lot of work, but its really really cool and it helps the consumer to decide for the laptop. Love to see more stuff like this.
I feel like Eluktronics has been doing this for a while. Their plan settings gimp the CPU but keep full power to GPU. It keeps gaming on par and much cooler/quieter
I really appreciate the care you take in posting your videos. Indexing all the start times for various review topics. Well done. I'm a fan.
Very good set of tests. I was very pleased by the results. This was a lot of work and I thank you all.
I want to see a temp result with liquid metal.
That would certainly void the warranty but it would certainly be interesting.
Wouldn't bother with that unless your laptop is very high end and gets high temps regularly
liquid metal also permeates into copper deforming it.
@Samim Ahmed Thats absurd effort for a laptop and it would void the warranty. He also didn't reveal the solution after selling it for over a year. He and other youtubers went on and on and on about copper being fine. How many laptops do you think liquid metal has ruined?
Beautiful animations at 3:00. Love your videos 🙌
Thanks! They take a while!
I'm curious if this applies to AMD systems as well. As far as I know, OEM's messed up the thermals of most systems especially the asus tuf series and the zephyrus g15.
Haven't seen the G15 but one of the main reasons why the TUF gets a bit hot is because the Ryzen CPU runs at a higher package power than any other AMD notebook we've seen so far.
it's cuz Asus closed up the vents on both laptops, the TUF A15 barely had any vents underneath and the ROG Zephyrus G15 vents were closed up by a sheet of plastic, dunno why Asus would do that to their somewhat flagship laptop tbh
@@lucas_vlanc yeah bro, hardware unboxed did a deep dive into the situation and even modded the chassis to compare results, they also spoke to Asus about the issue and Asus gave their reasoning behind it, they also had to buy a retail unit for the test which sucks
@@HardwareCanucks The TUF has one of the lowest package power under load compared to other well cooled options.
I changed my A15 thermal paste with grizzly and got around 5-7c lower.🤷🏻♂️
I have Legion y740 (the predecessor of 7i) with i7 9750h and RTX2070 MaxQ. When I am working I keep it in quiet mode, because it gives me enough power for everything and is basically noiseless. When I game I put performance mode because I want all the power I can get, I have observed that gaming on balanced mode make the laptop actually hotter, I guess it is because the fans are not going full speed all the time.
Please review the new HP OMEN 15 2020 laptops, I am really looking forward to that!
YESSIR!
Me too !!!
Nishnat Mahajan I’m excited about AMD version only
@@namedo6712 AMD model only comes with 1660ti GPU
@@victorgriffith8968 Yeah thats why I want him to review the I7 RTX 2060 model
Great video, great research and explanation of results. It's very apparent that you found your results interesting and you wanted to share them, and that really came through, nice to see.
Glad you enjoyed. :)
I like the splitting of progress bar into sections, it is pretty useful
We'll try to add it into more videos.
That was an awesome video. It was full of excellent information and in-depth research on everything that I look for in a notebook that my clients need and want. Thank you Ebert.
Thanks for this excellent follow up video. Really compliments your initial review from a few days ago. Hope to see this more often. Liking the time stamps too. Cheers
Thanks man. Really appreciated!
Great info and Thanks. I ordered the Legion 7i and this is very informative.
mannn this is an advance review, cant wait for you to review the legion 5! 💯
Great breakdown of so many aspects, thanks a lot! Helped me understand these modes better 👌
I'd be very interested to see this with different Windows Speed Shift settings (changeable via throttlestop).
This is the Legion's best gaming laptop with a core i9...I stopped right there.
Why?...
@@hansz54 AMD
@@charlesdomain9196 AMD isn't we'll optimized for a lot of apps even some games I had when I had my 3900x was just worse with issues. Intel processors right now are a way smarter choice. Y'all just fanboy a company.
@@AvoidVanity You sound an awful lot like a fanboy...
Whenever I see Intel being featured in UA-cam videos, I automatically assume they made it to distract us from the superior Ryzen in both performance and battery life
I just want to address this. We need to promote a HEALTHY competition. Remember, AMD is a publicly traded company just like Intel so their first responsibility is to their shareholders. Having one or the other dominating for too long would lead to exactly the same situation we saw with Intel until Ryzen was launched. We LOVE seeing competition but we also need to have both Intel and AMD reacting to one another rather than leading by a massive amount. Otherwise, we the consumers get screwed.
I'd love to know which Advanced Optimus setting was being used for the battery life tests. Does disabling the dGpu completely vs having it in hybrid mode make a difference? With this being the first, and currently only, laptop with this feature, it would be really nice to see some testing involving it.
How come some other gaming laptops that switch between discrete and integrated graphics can have much longer battery life? Doesn't this have advanced optimus?
I might be wrong, but i think because this has way higher specs with an i9 hk and a 2080 super max q in it probably just sucks way more power than it needs. The lower spec models might have better battery. Then again there is so much settings tweaking you can do to really push that battery as far as possible
Thank You. This video is great. Nothing to add.
Very nice data. Thank you.
Glad you got something from it. Believe it or not this video evolved from internal curiosity to "hey this might make some cool content". :)
Really a great laptop!! Was considering to buy this beast but somehow I also love Dell XPS 17. Could you make a comparison between these two amazing laptops in your future videos? really appreciate and great channel indeed!
Purchased a Slim 7i, look forward to trying this.
Watching on my Legion 7i creator edition... an absolute beast.
How about a video correcting some previous videos like how horrible thermals are for previously recommended cases like the phanteks Evolv matx
Sorry, what's wrong with the Evolv mATX? With proper fan placement (check out our video about optimal placement!) its perfectly fine to pretty good.
@@HardwareCanucks The front panel chokes off virtually all airflow to the front fans and the top exhaust is choked off as well from the top panel.
This causes increased permeation issues as well for any CLC you are running.
For comparison I built in the loque ghost s1 SFF PC recently and get significantly better thermals off air cooling at a fraction of the case size.
Also if you look around online I'm not the only one with these issues, which is why people are modding to increase the front panel distance or CNCing the front with mesh pattern (expensive mod).
It's a lower volume case, so we rely on guys like you who are willing to review these more niche cases and the dam good award was a huge influence on my purchasing decision back then.
As I've learned more about cases it's become clear to me the evolv mATX was not a good purchase overall.
I've noticed you guys taking more care in terms of reviewing airflow in cases so it would be nice to get some updated thoughts on some of these cases since they are still available for purchase.
What about the advanced optimus nvidia claim on this laptop?
I don’t mean to nitpick, but I noticed that you said “literally no difference” in the Premiere Pro benchmarks between the three power profiles when there is clearly a 0:30 second time difference between the silent and performance profiles. A literal difference of none would mean that there is actually no difference.
Please sir also compare legion 7i and omen 15 ....really confused between two ....Please say ypur sayings and tell which is better ....pleaseeeee
8:19 "Frames per Second - FPS (Higher is better)
NOOOOO! Didn't get that in the Edit!
Turn the performance up until the fan noise is just too much, then down just a little. Newer fans seem to be a lot quieter, assisted by vapor chambers. Max is for the day before a deadline only
are y'all gonna do a comparison video between the G15 and G14 :) TIA
Not in the near future TBH.
I'd like to see a review of the AMD variant of the new T14 to see if Lenovo fixed some of the issues with the T495
Thanks for bringing this up! Didn't know about the new T14 but we'll be sure to request it at some point. :)
FYI this has a huge design problem where the lid holding the screen cracks because of the hinge design. In my local Legion Facebook group alone, 4 users had that problem. Many have also shared the same experiences on reddit. Good thing this comes with a 3 year on site warranty on my country.
is that true? I was just about to buy it!
@@flood2k3 yep. Just type legion 7i hinge on reddit and UA-cam. and the number of 7i users in my group who had this problem has risen to 7. Definitely not isolated cases.
Hey can you make a 2020 high budget tutorial that includes pc build setup assembling and overclocking after downloading windows
Sure but how about we flip that to an entry budget tutorial + overclocking?
Ok kool but pleaase give reccomended peripherals
@@thret9796 peripherals are really up to each owns taste
Great stuff - when testing performance mode was the Nvidia control panel set to High Performance or optimal? (Sorry if some one asked this already). I would be interested if Lenovo overrides that adjustment.
how about the issue with corcair's icue rgb manager they said it eats up battery like a all out buffet
I wanted to ask you to help me, I am between this Lenovo Legion 7i laptop and the HP OMEN 15 2020 which of the two is better, the chassis, the temperatures, the battery, which one do you think is better?
i think you should go for the lenovo
I know that they allow these cpus to clock super high for short, fast'n'heavy workloads and makes them feel snappy, but i wish that there were modes that ramp up the frequencies more slowly but allow the fans to ramp up at the same rate so you dont get whisper quiet -> jet engine and back to whisper quiet...
My laptop is from 2012 but i was able to keep the battery life in check by creating a power setting with steady clock speeds, somewhere between stock and max turbo, which really did give me a more snappy system for every day use, and then a 85% of max turbo clock speed setting for whenever im plugged in, with ok fan curve.
There is no thermal throttling issue for my unit. The CPU temps stay under 75C under full load and GPU temps stay below 60C.
I have this laptop. It's such a beautifully designed laptop. The thermals are decent, can be better, but the screen, speakers (for a gaming laptop) are amongst the best, the performance is great, it's lovely. The IO is out the back of the laptop, I love this laptop.
Great video. However I wish you would have used a free program to stress the CPU and GPU independently such as Cinebench R20, Prime95. Furmark. CPU load only test and CPU+GPU load test so that viewers could more easily identify if the same model laptop has similar results. I have the legion 7i with the 10750h and cannot maintain 80watts PL1 without heavily thermal throttling at around 94c and wattage dropping into 60-70s. Thinking I may have a mounting pressure issue with heatsink as I have already repasted.
Hey great video! Did you have windows in balanced or performance power mode? Edit: Saw where you said legion software overrides it?
4800H
If this laptop has 4800H, it will literally be perfect, all those watt wasted by Intel, they could have been fed to Starving GPU in Africa.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
🏆
ryzen is shitty and laggy and shite software
and why the racism africa is not starvation contient it is cannibal country
Please make a video on best budget 2020 computer peripheral
We're on it!
@@HardwareCanucks thanks man.
How do you rate these thermals compared to similar gaming laptops? I'm curious coz a lot of reviewers are saying 7i is having bad thermals.
With my XPS 13 9300, there are four modes. I keep it in optimised, but switch to Ultra performance when using CAD and rendering. I also leave it in quiet when in classes, and cool when I am not doing anything intensive
What do you think about the Dell Power Plan? So far we've seen good results with it.
@@HardwareCanucks It's actually quite good, I can see a noticeable difference in the fan noise and temperature. But, I'm not too sure that the performance does much other than let it reach high temperatures!
I think what happened in gaming load when 7i is (under Balanced mode), the CPU drop it's TDP from 45W to 30W while GPU increases TGP from 80W to 95W. This is Nvidia's Dynamic Boost
When there is only GPU load, TGP will be 105W for Max-Q equipped 7i (109W for 2060)
Plz review the asus zephyrus S15 and M15
Hope i can see soon enough the review of the legion 5 with the 120hz panel so i know what to expect with that screen!
I'm using the Legion 5 15 with Ryzen 4800H. I don't even need to use turbo mode for games because the highest gpu offered is the gtx1650ti. Balanced mode max out the gpu at 99% with 20-30% CPU only. I use turbo mode for editing and rendering videos.
@7:23 so can you hear any noise on silent mode? i remember the y740 was very quiet.
Legion 5 (AMD) is definitely my favourite gaming laptop, the only drawbacks are the numpad on the keyboard and no dedicated buttons for the trackpad, probably gonna get it when 1660Ti and 80Wh battery configs are available in my country
Curious to see what the setting difference was because I've seen some people able to get 6-7 hours of battery life from the same specs. What do you think they did differently? Also does the lowest power mode change the hz to 60 on the display?
My laptop is set to balanced almost all the time. If I do plan on gaming for a while I'll turn on performance mode if I remember to, and battery mode if I know I'll be away from the wall for a while.
I simply don’t understand how you managed to have almost 6 hours of web browsing. I’ve tried almost anything already (using quite mode, disabling the dGPU, power saver in windows, reducing the luminosity to 30%, using throttlestop to disable turbo boost, installed Intel XTU and undervolt it) and in this condition on my L 7i 10875H Nvidia 2060 i can get maximum of 3 hours(180 min) of really light web browsing.
What is the catch ?
Thank you, man! I have come across most of your reviews. Your review is thrilling combining your voice, analyses, presentation, and video angle. However, suggest me a laptop with maximum priority on CPU GPU combination (intel 7 11th gen or ryzen 7 5000 series, graphics as you prefer). I am a heavy user of regular tasks (productivity, programming, and a bit of gaming)
im torn between the msi GS66, Asus G14 or this :( sad times. This offers more for very similar price as the G14
AwkwardYet who wouldn’t!
This. Definitely.
MSI Stealth GS75 here. i7 8th gen - RTX 2070 - Samsung NMVe. SHIFT: Comfort FAN SPEED: Auto. V-sync ON Smooth gameplay and silent machine.
Hello, what do you think about Dell precision 5550?
How does it stands with Dell XPS and MacBook in overall performance specially video editing?
would you recommend the ROG g14 as the best for the price range?
Good question. It REALLY depends on what you need. The G14 is more of an all-round notebook that's also good at gaming. The screen size isn't great for gaming though. We prefer 15" and above for a gaming notebook.
Its probably the best laptop right now, it is a phenomenal price
@@mproa5854 IF you can find it from a first part seller. Third parties are busy jacking up its price like nuts.
Hardware Canucks whats a good laptop for video editing and gaming that's 15"?
Hardware Canucks best buy sells it for $1,450
What do you think the battery life is on the 5i with the 80w battery? Nice video!
We don't have the 5i yet. But 80Whr is less than other comparable notebooks.
@@HardwareCanucks cool. Thank you. I checked it out at best buy but a lower tier. It's very sleek and comfortable to type on, even with the numb pad.
Blade Stealth 2020, balanced when plugged in and power-saver on battery. As you concluded performance just gives 5-10% percent extra fps.
Thank you for going over this.
I need to ask, where is the wallpaper from? That face is weirdly adorable.
Wallhaven. ;)
Anyone who's gaming, it's already a compromise not having a PC and using a laptop instead either for budget or mobility reasons as an adult and in such cases mostly, the laptop is plugged in all the time anyway either in office or home etc.
So, the first settings change it receives as XMP profile in PCs is Performance mode in Laptops to compensate not having a PC instead.
If it's something like Canteen or College, that means, even if I have money this would be my one computer anyway as to living in hostels or boys PG rooms.
Function + Q cycles through the Power modes
The power button is
BLUE = SILENT
Light TEAL = AUTO
RED = PERFORMANCE
So why in your charts do you use
RED = AUTO
Light TEAL = PERFORMANCE
PINK(?) = SILENT
It would have been so easy to make your chart colours the same as the power button
:(
On y540 how can I know which performance mode currently I'm running? I switch it with Fn + Q but the only way to know which I'm using is to enter the lenovo vantage app. Outside the app there's absolutely no visual info which mode is currently running. Any ideas?
Same on my Legion 7i. I believe it's a driver issue since my laptop came without Windows preinstalled
@@siulian I installed lenovo utility from Microsoft Store and now it shows the power mode when I switch ;)
auto and balance are two different words and were used in this pc as the same, it felt so odd to hear it multiple times being called one or another as the "same" mode xd
Would be interesting to see the same test based on the standard Windows power settings.
Believe it or not, a lot of manufacturers DISABLE most of those.
Hello, I accidentally removed one of the power plans and after redownloading and reinstalling them there is a difference between quiet and balance mode, but there are no differences between balance and performance mode. What can I do?
I'm using a ROG G531GT(intel i7 9750h; gtx 1650) and I usually keep it on silent both plugged and on battery and only switch to high performance when gaming or when I need higher cpu performance for tasks like compiling. It does nice job of keeping everything snappy enough on silent mode for me not to notice while working on it and It also has the added bonus of keeping the idle temperature lower (because of the lower power usage in that mode)
Best Laptop for 4k video editing ? Under 1000 dollars,
- Came to know battery life in gaming laptops isn't great
Which program are you running? Resolve? Premiere? Vegas?
@@HardwareCanucks premier
for me, Vegas. I can go to $2200
I have the Legion 7i with i7-11800H and GeForce RTX 3070. Purchased for machine learning applications rather than gaming. It came with Lenovo's beefy (and heavy) 300W power adapter. I use the quiet mode most of the time. I am disappointed that the machine usually consumes 35-50W during my normal use, but when I use a 100W USB PD power brick, or even a 135W Lenovo brick, it won't keep the battery charged. I turn on the notebook with a fully charged battery and plug in one of the the lower power output bricks, but it still lets the battery level drop. So traveling w/o that heavy 300W brick isn't an option. Surely this is a firmware or BIOS issue that could be fixed!
Otherwise, it's BY FAR the fastest, most powerful laptop I've ever encountered.
8:42 Didn’t show battery life stats for heavy workloads :(
Its there in BLUE.
@@HardwareCanucks Whoops, sorry I'm blind :(
While playing eSports game I switch to balanced mode but while playing high demanding AAA titles like RDR 2, I switch to performance mode and I can't compromise on that
About gpu speeds being lower on high performance, it's probably because heatpipes are shared, so the higher temps in the cpu at high performance raise the temps of the gpu by a few degrees too, hence lowering it's core clock due to nvidia's gpu boost technologie, wich is highly dependant on temps.
That's certainly possible but the CPU temps were really good. This could just be a matter of Legion prioritizing certain components in different power plans as well.
what about a undervolting test? battery life, performance and temperatures differences
If we get enough requests that'll be in an upcoming video.
Is it a whining sound or just sound of 'moving air'?
Please compare the liquid metal cooling impact in gaming laptops, you might say that one would void the warranty but I am saying about the newly launched Asus rog strix g and scar series laptop those incorporate liquid metal cooling, does this effect the temperature?, it would be nice to see, which is more efficient in cooling:- liquid metal cooling (ROG) or vapour chamber cooling (used in the lenevo 7i)
How can I unlock advanced settings on BIOS.(legion 5i) please help me
hi l, liked your video can you do the same for the razer blades and alienware laptops thanks
Absolutely. But right now we are a bit backlogged with notebooks LOL.
Really good one. Nice
Did not explain about the Power Plan and their settings. Pretty misleading title.
can you tell us what is the weight of your exact unit and what is the weight of the power brick and also how big is the power brick
Sure. Just weighed it. Looking at 2.254 KG. Do you want the weight of the power bring AND cords or just the brick?
Finally, thank you for this.
Hello. Is it normal that in Vantage in Edge section I only have three options? I'm on Legion Y530 with 2004 Win 10
I hope you do a comparison beetween MSI GE66 raider and LEGION 7i
Great video .I Just gut mine with 2070 max q and it’s an outstanding laptop coming from my Alienware high end laptop , I installed intel xtu and noticed power limit throttling even with temperatures at only 65-70 degrees .. I’m puzzled
Me too man. I have the 2070 Super Max and seen the same issue when running Xtu program. Did you manage to solve it?
Hi ! i am only getting 2 hours of battery use , very light use of only web browsing and youtube .! i even uninstalled Icue and when on battery i turn all lights off and use quite mode , did i get a faulty unit ? should I return it ?
I can't find the i9 option on Lenovo's website. Is this laptop not out yet?
It keeps selling out so it gets unlisted. We're guessing stock of the 10980HK is VERY limited.
So from all videos on UA-cam what I learned is ?
1. Increase in temperature always shorten life span
2. Pushing above tdp increase the chance of device failure
3. When buying laptops especially to play AAA games in ultra settings and getting FPS above 70 is really difficult with current 2000 series GPU of Nvidia .
4. Laptops need to come with a evolutionary cooling .
5. Legion 7 vapour chamber is a marketing gimmick this video proves .
Did you try the System76 Oryx Pro?