The VERY Messed Up Origins of Coraline (Pt. 2) | Coraline Explained - Jon Solo
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You forgot one creepy thing. Corlaine, "swear on something important. That you will play fair." I swear on my mother's grave." Do you even have a mother?" Of course I put her in her grave myself, and I put her back in when she crawled out of it." Sent shivers down my spine when I heard that from the audiobook.
Omg yes I'm so glad you mentioned that. I remember reading that part and being like what the hell?!
sleep is for the weak anyways :)))
To be honest, after watching that One Piece scene where Luffy puts a zombie back in the ground, this thought is kinda funny.
But I can imagine it being super creepy to read/hear it when you're focused on the story.
reading this just gave me an aneurysm
What was the cat's name in the book? I remember reading something like Coraline when I was really young but the cat's name was Slumber (I remember asking my mom what it meant, I didn't understand since the only context I had heard was slumber party)
* either slumber or somber I cant recall
Wybie wasn’t added to stretch out the plot but to make it so Coraline wasn’t always talking to herself
So true
yea we know that lol
Yep
Yh that's what he eant
Interesting
I love how the black cat was helpful and thoughtful. Going against the stereotype that black cats are bad luck.
Same
True... but better be safe than sorry...
Ngl, I thought he was going to betray her at some point.
They're actually Angel souls and every time you see 1 it means good luck just came to your destiny
Black cats are actually symbols of luck in Japan
My parents made me read Coraline when I was around eight.
Even as I was reading it I knew it was a messed up story, but my parents didn’t care about that, because “reading is important.”
That’s a good way to scar an eight year old for years, MOTHER.
I still liked it though.
MUDDER
that's hella messed up lol
Oh no...
I was the same age when the movie came out, and I'm unsure whether I saw it or not, but I definitely played the DS game.
I had gotten stuck at some point after the first visit to the other world, thought the game was possessed and the mom would end up getting me. I (still) have very vivid memories of me playing at night time in now-late relatives' spare bedroom (and trust me the place itself would scare any kid shitless, so the combination was really something), and back then I got nightmares about this shit for weeks until I eventually grew out of it.
Didn't think of it for more than a decade, until I saw a meme about it a few years ago that opened back the trauma door. I think about it from time to time, it's still making me extremely uneasy and I try and change my thought quickly. Tonight I tried to act on it and investigate instead. Now I think I understand better why it stuck with me for so long, tho I don't really know what to do about it 😭
I found terrifying that despite having literally no recollection of the plot's details or end (before tn), it still woke up crazy shit in me. The feeling of terror from the threat of the Other mother; her "Everyone does" when talking about having Other Parents (which I'm pretty sure messed up my conception of reality back then); feeling confused about the end as it's pretty open/rushed...
Anyways that's a lot of rambling sorry lol but tldr; that shit messed me up back then and i was surprised no one had felt like that until I saw your comment.
Beldam: *Puts Coraline inside the mirror to give her time to reflect* Ba dum tsss
Ohhhh.😣 I missed that!
Lmfao i cant believe i didnt even think of that
HAH
🤣😂 i just realized that
I bet he will reflect on this later
Yeah that wasn't even a joke anymore really...... but i really want to type this
*Bu Dum tssk*
*Bel dam tssssss*
i like the book but i love the detail of wybee and his grandma in the movie and how the grandma knows about the evil in the house because her sister disappeared there
Same I enjoyed that little tidbit.
Facts if wybee never existed then her sister was never a victim and coraline was alone the whole time I'm shook
Iazzmeania Jones Instead of the sister, it was a fairy in the graphic novel
Angelica Jantes same and im glad we got to meet her twin sister in the movie
Angelica Jantes i liked it to and in the beginning of the movie wybee tells coraline "you know my grandma doesn't allow kids in the apartments"
“Eyes are the windows to the soul”
The Beldam: Installing windows
*Beldam is Bill Gates Confirmed*
@@homeslice2825 Beldates 😲
I’d like to think Coraline’s parents have always loved and cared for her. But in Coraline’s perspectives, it wasn’t enough since they spend a lot of their time working while she wasn’t in school yet. It’s sad how as kids, we don’t notice the little things and appreciate our parents for just being there. Instead, we compared our parents with others’ whom seem much nicer on the surface. I’m glad I was taught to be weary of overly sweet people who are nice to you for no reason and seem to give a lot without asking for anything back. Things truly aren’t what they seem.
I used to complain when my mother and father wouldn't be home till 6 cuz they were doing work for my college funds (I was 10) I'd always tell them that I just wanted to spend time with them, but in all reality I just wanted them to be more like other parents... sooner or later I realized how flawed I was and just slightly adjusted my thinkinh in the sense that I actually admired what my parents do for me and how much they actually care...
I was under the same type of impression. They love their daughter, but are the "workaholic/exhausted parent," trope. At the end, I believe it isn't that they love her more, they love her the same, but they subconsciously remember what she did for them and are their subconscious is telling them to be more affectionate to coraline.
Coralline is a child horror movie you can’t change my mind
Edit: Thanks to Coraline I found my love of horror stuff and I also didn’t mean to offend anybody by what I said
Ikr. I’m still scared of it lmao 😂😂😂
Dead Space 2 is a child horror movie. Your mind just got changed.
It's accualy not scary tho
It's just a horror movie. not for children.
I agree
i love that coraline just sleeps away her problems😂🥴
Jack Harper not really
That is the definition of me 🤣🤣🤣👏🏻
Jack Harper I do the same thing
ikr like how does she do that 😅
Reminds me of me ahaha
“What’s hilarious is that Gaiman specifically said she ate everything but the pineapple chunks- I guess he wanted to make clear that she didn’t go insane from her time in the other world.”
Shade.
The passageway being "alive" is such a fascinating and eerily interesting part of the book for me. Creeped me out the most
I would like a Coraline 2 but showing the story of wybee's grandmother and when her sister went missing
daniii phxntom i mean or they could do a second one with coralline as an adult and her child. I once read that the old well is like a portal to the other world cause it’s surrounded by mushrooms... so there’s maybe a possibility that the other mother got the key back and is waiting for revenge
daniii phxntom yes I thought the same thing that would definitely make things clearer
YES I WANT THAT TOO
daniii phxntom i would love a coraline 2. that would be amazingggg
daniii phxntom OMG YES
The real question is
Did his daughter even like the book??? And did she ever read it?
Lord Mustachenor the daughter lied saying she liked it but in all reality she was uttermost terrified of the book
Hailey I don't remember exactly but it was actually the publicist's/editor?? daughter who was scared but never told her. his publicist was meant to go get the book published as a children's book at Harper Collins but complained it was too creepy so Gaiman told her to read it to her own daughter and see if it was inappropriate but at the time the publicist was surprised because her daughter appeared fine with it and said so- therefore the book was publish in all its original content. when gaiman later met the same daughter at a convention or something who revealed she had been scared the entire time but didn't want to tell her mum so she could find out what happens next. I'll find the source for you for precision.
al's record store I think you were right I just remember an article from years ago saying that about a daughter
Gaiman said he found that adults were far more disturbed by the story than kids, which is intriguing...
@@McCammalot Personally, I'm much more afraid of things as an adult than I was as a child. I assume it's because I understand subtleties and implications more than I did as a naive youngster.
You're right on the money I say. the Beldam's meaning as monster and the "Belle Dame sans merci" are both meanings here. In the book, it isn't that Coraline's parents are un-nurturing toward her. But they have their own jobs, lives and responsibilities that mean they need her to be creative in making her own fun when she's bored and unhappy. Her mother is also a the more practical enforcer-parent, who tells Coraline she can't have everything she longs for in the same way as happens with the gloves.
Her neighbours, with their self-absorption keeping then in their has-been performance careers aren't so good at bridging the gap between her child's appreciation for entertainment and how they think about their art. The crazy man upstairs, who one would think would grab any kid's immagination, doesn't for her, probably because she's just old enough to interpret his behavior as some sort of mental health issue (It's not that simple, but that would make sense, so fair enough). In the other world, the neighbours become young and conventionally beautiful as her real neighbour ladies no longer are and their artistic work is devoted solely to the kind of unchalenging fluff entertainment which is easiest for Coraline the child to be happy with.
Probably BECAUSE her parents raised her to make her own fun --to be self-reliant and creatively explorative in satisfying boredom rather than depending on others, including her parents, to keep her entertained. Coraline is a an explorer and adventurer at heart and it is this instinct for exploration that leads her to defeat the beldam. It's also key here that the other mother is a much more feminine-traditional-presenting mother figure than her own mother, who presents herself as enjoying cooking, sewing and dolls. She is ultimately caught because of her assumption that the female Coraline like tea parties.
Compare this to Coraline's exasperated working mom and you begin to understand the story as dealing with the ways restrictively feminine-coded gender norms can both be caught up in appealing unharmful self-centered fantasy for young girls AND be kind of predatory, causing them to judge their mothers, their real lives and ultimately themselves in restrictive ways. Good thing Coraline's an explorer at heart and pushes those limits. The point isn't to alienate girls who love traditional femininity--Coraline owns a plastic tea set for a reason. But the story deals with how those appealing fantasies can be restrictive, keeping girls and women from the power that comes from exploring everything there is and causing them to trap themselves and others in limiting roles.
These Beldam stories kind of perfectly describe how a narcissist acts and behaves in real life and the lengths they go to lure in and trap their victims.
I think that was always the true purpose of folk/fairy tales, the characters were meant to represent something in real life - like the types of people /situations you could run into, or the things you would contend with in nature. Somewhere along the way I think people started taking tales too literally and some of the original lessons were lost. Same could be said for religious and spiritual tales as well.
💀
Coraline is the bravest 10 year old i have ever heard of
Like seriously even now if i ever went through all of that...im going to need some hardcore therapy
Excuse me sir she’s 11
Either way shes brave alright
You should see Chihiro in Spirited Away, just as terrifying for a 10 year old.
Or mental preparation. However she gains an ally and mentor in the cat. Having a trusted partner can do a world of good at easing stress, building confidence, seeing through gaslighting, and boosting courage. Not to mention having someone at your back. And remember the cat had Coraline's interests and goals at heart.
Just when she sees the rat in chap 1-3 I would've run away so fast and the whole neighborhood would know I was awake by my screams and flashing the lights😂
So there is actually another theory that I've heard and it kind of goes deeper into the back story of the beldam. Basically its about how she was this beautiful woman, way back when the town was founded, who stole the hearts of everyone around her but when she started getting older she freaked out. This caused her to find an "eternal youth serum", if you will, by eating or consuming the souls of children, and along with giving her eternal beauty and life she gained other abilities. This explains why she can make the illusion of a perfect world. She began to deteriorate over time because the soul eating method isnt 100% fool proof and she is forced to make changes to her appearance, i.e. button eyes and needle hands (movie). The cat is also a huge part to the story and has deeper meaning himself. Some theories present that he is the guardian of the other world protecting children from the beldam. This is because he was almost one of her victims. Apperently the cat is the soul of a boy that escaped from the beldam, but didnt win all her games. This would explain why he knows so much about the other world, the beldam and how he can communicate. This also explains why the beldam seems so desprate for Caroline's soul. She is starving and weak because her last victim escaped. Another thing is that the well is the source of all of the magic stuff with the beldam. Her and the well have a give and take relationship. She gives it souls and it gives her power. Because she continuously let the well down and didnt play fair it cut her off. This is when Caroline traps the hand and key at the bottom of the well and the well decides to keep it. The last thing I would like to point out is the doll you see at the begining of the movie, before it is turned into a little Caroline, is the doll that was made for the grandmother's sister. This is because the sister was the last young girl victim.
Madeline Vittum Ohmygosh. Thanks that just made coralline way more interesting for me
So there is actually another theory that I've heard and it kind of goes deeper into the back of the story of the beldeam. Basically it's about how she was this beautiful woman, who stole the hearts of everyone around here but started getting older eating or consuming the souls of children, deeper meaning himself. Some threries here victim cat Soul of a boy
Madeline Vittum
Probably no one read that much
Holy crap! Thx that just made the story much more better for me and more interesting. How much time did it take you to write all this?!
@@dagrassyboi4745 i read the whole thing tho
I was always that one friend that wanted to watch Coraline on Netflix when someone came over
No one ever wanted to watch it with me
Same 😭😭
My mum has always said to me. "Books are better than the movies." Not gonna lie, she's right!
I agree the movie just makes me feel like damn you came to life
Imo the movie was better than the book this time lol.
@@solangelostan6016 PERIDOT BOOH
"Making up a song about Coraline."
She's a peach, she's a doll, she's a pal of mine."
"She's as cute as a button in the eyes of everyone whose ever laid their eyes on Cor-a-linnnee."
"When she comes around exploring, mom and I would never ever make it boring."
"Our eyes will be on Coraline."
“Our eyes will be on Coraline” they have button eyes and they want her to have them as well. Thus, their eyes would be on Coraline forever if she did let them sew in the buttons.
Why can't I heart this comment 😭
"She is as cute as a button" Making buttons sound like a good thing, trying to make her a bit calm about the button eyes and the part of "In the eyes of everyone" maybe trying to make it seem like everybody with button eyes see Coraline as a good child who should be safe, trying to make her feel safe around the beldam and her servants! But, that is just my theory!
the other father was warning her!!
@@Ventenna I KINDA AGREE MAYBE SINCE CORALINE IS CLEVER HE WAS GIVING HER A CLUE
Also, at the begging of the movie, Wybie says “If you fell to the bottom, look up, you’ll see a sky full of starts in the middle of the day”, meaning that when falling down the well you’ll see the night sky from the other world because on the other world it’s always night. So that could mean coralline send the key back to the witch 🤔
i saw it more as like, at the bottom you can only see the planks covering the top with holes in it that let light through, like stars in the sky
They say when you fall in a drop well that you can see stars in the middle of the day because there isn’t other light causing your eye to be sensitive. When you’re walking around you can only see the sun because it’s the brightest star so it’s the only one you see. When you’re deep in a well, there is only a narrow amount of space for you to see (tunnel vision), so you can see other stars because the sun isn’t overpowering them. It just a theory I heard though, probably not an actual fact.
I’ve always thought that the well represented the tunnel to the other world and the stars do represent the night in the other world... so is that why the beldam blocked off the well in the other world.??.??
gimmepizzaa ÙwÚ that’s probably true!!
gimmepizzaa ÙwÚ I never thought about that! I also heard something about the mushrooms that are around the well like if they are to protect or something like that
The fact that the other father was on coraline's side, he made a 'song' about her meaning he's warning her about the beldam.
Example: "our eyes will be on coraline"
Your welcome
I love how this movie has endless interpretations that are all technically right in their own ways. It's really a very interesting movie that is suitable for all ages.
The fact that a dad wrote this for his kids is the absolute wildest idea to me, because the reason I fell in love with this movie as a kid is because it's an eerily apt metaphor for parental gaslighting and emotional/psychological child abuse. This is the movie that gave me permission to not trust my mother.
The Void I mean everyone can get a different meaning of the book/movie through their personal experiences
I’m not sure I thought about it writing it, but yes I agree it represents that subject very well
I hope you’re doing well now by the way x
@Count Cobalt Sorry you don't know what gaslighting means.
@@wildfire9280 He's got dumbass disease lol
same
I thought it was about grooming
"What's hilarious is that Gaiman specifically said she ate everything but the pineapple chunks-- I guess he wanted to make clear that she didn't go insane from her time in the other world."
*Shade.*
The creepiest thing for me so far was her finding out that the hallway was alive
I've always had lingering questions ever since I watched Coraline when I was still a kid. Thanks for answering most of them. But I wanted to ask if the cat that helped Coraline has a backstory too because other than the other mother and it's world. The cat still haunts my thoughts when remembering this film
I don’t know much about it but incase you didn’t read it another comment said the cat was the soul of a little boy who won the games but
Didn’t escape because of the other mother
@@hi7715 I didn't know this. Thanks for the info
Cats are spiritual animals they can travel thru portals
That’s why you hear witch’s having cats as pets in movies and crows too
I wish that the film had included the bit where one of the ghost children reminisces about seeing Tulips, and contemplating whether or not they had names, it was a really sweet but sad little bit.
in the movie, the little ghost boy says he doesn't remember anything, like his name, but he does say "I remember my real mommy" I don't know if this elaborates with this but I think it does idk
movie-when coraline was having cake with her other family her cake said "welcome home" with the o in welcome having one loop at the top but in home the o has two loops. according to graphology if a lowercase o has a double loop that means the person who wrote it was/ is lying. coraline was welcomed to their world but she wasn't home
Nice catch
That's so cool! The amount of detail that went into this film is bizarre!
Brianna Gibson Clark yup ur right
Cool
👀 666 likes! Lol also thanks for the info
I love the “other” characters cuz you really sympathize wit them near the end of the story of both book and film.
I was more creeped out when solo said "aren't they?" in a deep voice. Pls dont do that again 😂 im weak
"To me, you're more than Solo Cups *-insert short dramatic pause here-* You're Solo Goblets"
-Our Solo Goblet leader
All hail 🙌🏽
Any relation to Bill?
@@Estarfigam My OC is his sis
I was young and wild when that happened 😂
So do we chalices and grails next? I'm pretty sure i have a friend that's a Solo shot glass or whiskey tumbler. 😆
Thanks goodness you commented that because I thought he called us Solo Goblins.
Dispite it being a mistake, bedlam is a fitting description, since the Beldam casts a sort of confusion on her victim's and caused its own uproar near the end of the story.
I watched the movie as a kid. After a few scenes I never finished it - I was too terrified to acknowledge I saw it. Best kids movie in my opinion.
if my father wrote a story like that for me i--
no ❤
I love how the author said he was worried his youngest would be too old when in the end so many of us watching the movie and this video are adults who pay bills
nope I’m a lil kid
I was 5 or 6 when I first watched Coraline
But now I am 12
I first watched the movie at 5 and I’m now 12
BUT WHY DOES THE CAT DISAPPEAR AT THE END OF THE MOVIE
Because the other world stll is still there waiting
apparently when the cat disappeared, it went through a different portal to the other world. And when the movie ends with that obnoxious boom, that's suggesting that the other mother can still lure children in and that it's not the last of her. 🤷🏻♀️
bc she never left the world
69 likes nice
Because Mystery Managed.
I need a live-action version of Coraline written and directed by Guillermo del Torro
After pans labyrinth I think he would kill doing a live action coraline
“You wanna check out the front side of the apartment, Coraline? Ok!
* *EUGH* *
Here you go. You want it?”
Why did she literally sleep through half the story
well dont you sleep through half of your life?
(excluding sleepless nights)
Wow you now have 111 likes
Why not?
Trying not to get murdered can be pretty tiring
@@raspberrycrowns9494 nah I almost got MURDERD true story it took me 6 minutes
Jon Solo: suggests that pineapple on pizza is insane
* *you have started a gang war* *
Frankly, I haven't known anyone who has both tasted pineapple pizza and thought it didn't go together well. Btw, I wonder why nobody else has commented about it yet.
I only came to the comments because of what he said about pizza. Lol
I enjoy pineapple on pizza in most cases.
@bitch_ima_cow how derrr you xD
bitch_ima_cow thank u
i agree with him
In the last scene, you will see the cat walk on the post and disappear, this is strange because the cat can only do that is the other world.
So did she ever even escape?
Cullen Campbell yea because the cat can’t talk plus the cat probably could just wouldn’t in front of them
Coroline was still at another world :)
Video games are really cool so I'm playing one and only when I would almost at the finish line are you seriously kidding me right now I just got killed because some guy Lee beat me up at the finish line for no reason
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"Coughs up the key like nothing happens and hands it you."
Witch: here you want it?
Me: Guess I'm doing this the old fashioned way. 🤣🤣🤣
When I was little, there was a little door in my mom's room, like Coraline's, she sealed it off with tape, after opening it and finding a mini entry way to another tiny room. We were never allowed to be in there, due to it being dark and creepy.
Thank you. I didn't really need to sleep tonight. :)
I think your mom knew about the “other mother”.
@@themadlass5584 she probably did. She covered the key hole and pushed a desk in front of it
@@anahigomez3351 it was probably storage especially if upstairs. My grandparents house had shit like that and he and my great grandfather built it in the 30s. Like the basement had tons of little rooms like the coal room which had a mail looking door to the outside I'm guessing so they didn't have trails of coal more than they had to in the basement. But the one storage thing that was a tiny door in a closet upstairs gave me nightmares before I even really knew about it as a toddler even tho I was surrounded by my sister and tons of sleeping cousins . Never understood that my so thinks it's cause stuff from both world wars from both grandparents were stored in there like guns and etc and even I was like that's the only thing that makes sense since he was a marine in ww2 so he definitely killed even tho he was the kindest person on Earth and still is my hero but no one died in the house and etc but I'd hear heavy boots at night when downstairs even tho I was only one in that big house all day and night I made my best friend stay on the phone with me all night and I'm really hard to scare. And I know it wasn't my grandpa's ghost cause I'd seen him one time in my teens and he looked exactly as he did when I was a kid dressed for the golf course and it didn't scare me or nothing not like them damn boots. If my best friend didn't hear it on the phone I would of thought I was crazy but no not the case.
Lol I hated staying at that house even as a teen. And I put an stationary workout bike in front of that closet door every time I stayed there!
So I understand your mom. At least even tho the house I rent is even older isn't haunted at all with barely any storage places. only when my sister in law died I felt goosbumps around her time of dearh and that was it. And that makes sense since when she was a kid her parents rented this house too and I happened to be in her old bedroom when I felt it. It was so quick I brushed it off till the next morning when we got the news and no her death wasn't expected it came out of nowhere.
Perhaps also the idea of her children being stuck also played into this as well. Parents are very attuned to their children and also have experience and higher-order mental functions (look up Bloom's Taxonomy) to foresee consequences, even subtle ones.
Even though Wybie is nonexistent in the book, he is my favorite Coraline character.
me tooooo
agreed
Yes
That is why he got called wyborn and why were you born
I wish he woulda been in the book. He was so adorable in the movie. :)
Coralline at 10/11: save everyone
Me at 10/11: eat dirt
ARMYYY
I like the book better for a couple of reasons, some of the things you mentioned. But also the parents in the book were more likeable, and less negligent/angry. Coralie shares happy memories, her parents are busy, but not absent. It makes Coralines dedication to them make more sense. Whereas in the movie she just turns the other mother down cause of the button eyes, and doesn't seem to even remotely like her parents until they go missing. Both are good and enjoyable entertainment. The movie gives a fun new twist on some of the characters. But to me the book is more compelling and character driven.
When my older sister went to elementary school she met the creators son and they voted on what color coralines hair would be. So that’s cool.
O.o
i lost brain cells reading this T^T
@@sweetret4rds439 same sis HAHAHA
SweetRet4rds how? Lol
@@ktty0465 issa joke
3:10 I never noticed that they put a red mark on the back of the Beldam’s dress kinda like a Black Widow Spider....clever
I didn't notice that, either; and when you consider what she did with Coraline's Other Father...
Didn’t notice that till now
At the end she tries to stop coraline by making a spider like web out of the floor hmmm 🤔
THE FACT THAT HE RUTHLESSLY ATTACKED US PINEAPPLE PIZZA EATERS- 9:23
5:32
The best part of the whole video
The other father in the basement was way more scary than the movie.
Oh my God yeah
Hell yeah it is
Anyone in a basement is scary 😳😭😭😭😂
I really wanted to see that in the movie!
did you mean book or basement?
Now that I think about it “The Other Mother” sounds like one of those horrible Lifetime movie.
I mean, she's totally symbolic of a narcissistic mother. She spoils children in exchange for their identities. That's like how some narcissistic parents give a child everything they want, but tell them who they are and what they like. In other words, they make the kid an extension of themselves, often living vicariously through them and claiming their accomplishments (like, citing the genetic influence on the kid's skills). Kids who grow up in that kind of environment often end up with little sense of identity, and become narcissists themsevles.
Lol I worked on a Lifetime movie called The Good Mother.
Lol, Honestly I need Coraline as a lifetime movie now.
@@MCMSavedByGraceForever I like them too lol😂
Hakajin You just described my relationship with my late father.
I think the part about the pizza is a reference to Coraline being a picky eater and complaining about her father experimenting when he cooked. By the end she grew up enough to appreciate his attemps at cooking.
Jon u need to make a part three yes it is true wyborn was created to Lengthten the movie but he does have an interesting origin yes the video will probably be short but viewers will enjoy it and be interested in as Coraline puts it when wyborn was called by his grandmother "why were you born?"
3:58 When Jon says “The eyes are the windows to the soul...... AREN’T THEY 👁 👁” hahaha! I got scared for real.
same! 😂
3:54
Made me drop my phone lol
He's been possessed by the Beldam!!! LOL
When I was little, since I could talk I would tell my mom all these stories about my other mother, I don’t remember but she says they really creeped her out cause they were all really in detail/then coraline came out lmao
Kierrah children tend to remember their past lives. You forget as you get older
Me too but my world was creppy
Ok now this got me shook
Maybe you’re still in Beldam’s world, you just don’t realise it
That means I’m there too
The most messed up thing about the Coraline movie is the Other Miss Forcible dressed as a mermaid
I named my daughter Coraline. She was due on Halloween, but came 2 weeks early on October 24th. I spelled her name Koralyne though. She just celebrated her 9th birthday. She's a tiny little whipper snapper. She's in like the 2-4 percentiles for her weight and height, but she is feisty and "witchy" as I call her. We love to watch Coraline together and when she's old enough to read novels, I'm going to get her Coraline. Idk if anyone really cares about anything I just typed, but I digress.
That's such a sweet mother daughter quality time, have a great day lady thanks for sharing
10:04
“she said it loud enough that the hand... could hear it”
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Me: but hands don’t have ears
Silly Goose that’s what I was gonna say lol
It's like Thing, the handy Addams family's butler. IDK. 😅
The hand could see..... I have questions
Holly Co the hand could move but it was made out of needles 🤭
@@marcar_19
Soo eye of the needle?Huh alright, that's clever word play. 🤔😉
But what about it being able to hear? Maybe needle hand can't really hear but it can feel vibrations? It's a contraption of metal whiskers haha. 😈😸
Either way this hand's gotten intriguing, and creepier.
Cue the next video: The Mystery of The Hand, Explaining The Beldam and how her magic works. 😃🤣🧚♀️😁
So was the storyline about Wybie’s grandmother’s twin being one of the lost children just some extra movie thing?
Yeah that wasn't in the book. Wybie and his grandmother didn't exist in the book
@@yourbabytee that's so hard to realize because Wybie and his grandmother were such important characters in the movie ;-;
@@feefko6668 yeah the writers put him in there because they didnt want Coraline to be lonely
@@yourbabytee yep i figured
He did a good job not making coraline lonely. Even on me
3:46 "Sounds pretty god damn terrifying, doesn't it?" OMG! IM MELTING THERE!🤣🤣🤣
One of my favorite pieces of book dialogue not included in the movie:
Coraline: Small world.
Cat: it's big enough for her. Spider's webs only have to be big enough to catch flies.
So I'm watching Coraline rn. I'm at the part where Coraline and her mother go clothes shopping. Coraline's mother says "I thought you'd feel...safer." After Coraline complains that she locked the door.
I was thinking, what if Coraline's mother went through some traumatizing stuff when she was a kid? Maybe something similar? Idk. It just struck me weird how Coraline's mother thought Coraline would feel "safer" after locking the door.
Nani Cristobal it was apart of her plan to manipulate Coraline
@@JB-qj2gv I'm talking about Coraline's real mother. Not the other mother
i saw this theory that the cat was another victim and survived the other mother. thats why the cat knows alot about the other world and the other mother. and the cat goes around helping other children survive just like how the cat helped coraline. so maybe the cat was her real mother and was helping her this whole time.
@@jasminemenjivar1544 that is actually a good idea lol
@@jasminemenjivar1544 I get the theory about the cat being a previous victim, but it seems a bit far fetched for the cat to be her mother though? Not to mention the cat's... a guy...
When people saw Wyborne in the movie for the first time after reading the book: *_WhY wErE YoU bOrN?_*
AHHAHAHJHJ
LMFAOAOAOA
Just stumbled upon your channel at midnight and i was very much entertained! Thank you!!
I love how the beldam just barfed put the key for Coraline XD
No matter how much i love scary stories
IF MY DAD WRITES A SCARY STORY THAT TAKES PLACE IN MY HOUSE OR OLD HOUSE
I WOULD
NOT
ENJOY IT
(As a kid) I would have totally loved it if my parents had written a scary book that took place in a house I had lived in. Makes it more creepy and exciting to read.
@@rebekahwilson1755 well coraline is far from a horror book
@@7PlayingWithFire7 sorry used the wrong term. My mistake
i would enjoy that very much. would spark some good video idea.
@@rebekahwilson1755 i mean not if i was like a kid yknow 💀💀 i would be scared, as an adult its cool for sure
Clicked so fast,she's been in that room for a week😂 had to know all the details,orginal story and film lol
Me too lol
Amanda tipton it was me haha 😂 I went straight ahead to the part he was explaining after 4 seconds and heard the word then immediately commented **whenever there’s a coraline video I’m theeeeeere**
Thanks for covering one of my favorite books, Jon! I read Coraline when it had recently come out, around 2002. I was 12 and it kept me awake at night, terrified, but I loved it. When I first saw the trailers for the movie, I was intrigued by the animation style, but put off watching it until several years after it was released. The movie has its own charm, but I can't help having that soft spot in my heart for the book. It came into my life when I needed it and I still cherish my original copy nearly 20 years later 🥰
Thank you for this! It’s very interesting!
Jon: She avoided the pizza cos she hadn't gone mad
Me: I didn't do anything to deserve that Goblet King
She avoided the pineapple
My mom used to tell me a scary story called "the other mother" where a child was acting out and being disobedient and her mom kept saying "if you keep doing that, the other mother will come!" but she didnt listen. Then one day when she got home from school the other mother was there. I dont remember all the details but she had buttons for eyes and a wooden tail which would go thwack, thwack, thwack. I always thought that and similar stories was the inspiration
there is the story like this called "the drum" in the scary stories series......one of my favorite childhood books :)
Do you mean "The New Mother" by Lucy Clifford? and yes they then made that story into another called "The Drum" by Alvin Schwartz
Oh my god you just made me remember something scary that I must have blocked out 🤣 I believe that’s from scary stories to tell in the dark, a book I used to love and also be terrified of. I wouldn’t be able to sleep for literally weeks but I couldn’t stop reading them 🥴
that's creepy
I know! I got the story from Jessie Vee a very pretty creator
coraline really just sleeps her problems away
Theory: the beldam (i cant spell) she was a psycho witch eating children's souls her mother tried to stop her but the beldam buried her alive. As she did so her mother got out so then she killed her then put her back in, her last victim (the sister of the grandma) saw her bury her alive then kill her after then put her back in the victim was horrified. Sooner or later when coraline came the beldam made the garden the pumpkins (that are in the movie) are covering the grave of the mother.
Hope you guys read the book because the beldam says to coraline that she buried her mother alive.
"Looking rather pissed" 😂oh my gaud lmao🤣
Me too
I feel so sorry for those ghost kids.
Me too but they gat released at the end
@@tibaazher2792 Yeah, I'm happy about that. But they still got robbed from living A full life.
In the graphic novel, there is a fairy instead of a little girl and she says she had been there for “a time beyond reckoning” or something like that
@@savagedarksider5934 yeah
Im just gonna sit down, relax, and enjoy some biscuits and tea w'ill watching this amazing piece of work ya got here sir!
I just found this channel the other day, and I'm really becoming obsessed! I have a degree in English Lit., so this is right up my alley.
I like how coraline was originally going to be caroline. In the movie, everyone calls her Caroline instead
Frost' Bear Trap It’s like the same for me. My name is Caroline but everyone calls me Coraline lmao
@@carolinep9062 I like your pfp Coraline
Caroline P how are you coraline-
Caroline P , same lol. Also my profile pic used to be Harry in a tutu too. And my last initial is also P. This is scary...
One of the lines from Coraline I really liked was when she's talking to the Other Mr. Bobo and he's saying how she can have everything she wants, that the Beldum will give her everything she desires so she can be happy, only for Coraline to reply that being given what you want doesn't make people happy.
I love your videos! You have such a fascinating way of telling and analyzing these stories. It always draws me in. Thank you :)
I have that painting you show at the beginning! My grandmother gave it to me it hung on her wall a long time. I love the artists other works to.
She doesn’t wanna go to ball games she just wants to ball dames
wildcat getcho azz out of here and go upload a video
thats terrible
Nice American Dad reference.
Whats your profile picture?
@Ezechiel Allali shid be that guy I'm not a salty person I goofed fuck it
For some reason, I have this weird memory where the scene with Coraline taking the eyes from Mr Bobinsky unfolded differently. I don't know why but I remember watching a different version. For starters Mr Bobinsky didn't turn out to be a bunch of rats, he did look just as wacky though. Coraline was desperately trying to take the eyes but Mr Bobinsky was too quick for her. Eventually, she just set down and started crying because she thought she'll never get the eyes. Then Mr Bobinsky just showed up above her and handed her the eyes saying "all you gotta do is say 'please' ". The talking cat wasn't even in this scene in my memory. I think I developed this memory around the age of 10 or 12. Imagine my surprise when I watched the movie again at the age of 12 and that scene being completely different from the one I remembered. I was convinced that there were 2 different versions of that movie.
just idk but that lowkey creeped me out “all you gotta do is ‘say please’” like whaaaat 😖
I dont remember that, but I remember the chartreuse color(the green) used to be red.
I remember when I was about 4 and my sister was like 6 and the scene was like that and then when my sister was like 12 and I was10 we watched it again and when it gets to that scene and I was like Whaaaaaaaaaatt?😳
Omg I remember a different version of Coraline too-
Basically the Beldam was sewing in a bright room and suddenly she was offering Coraline buttons???
It creeped me out lol
@@felidae2855 Wait.. She wasn't?
i've been watching your vids and its really relaxing for me xD Thx Jon Solo keep up the goodwork
Coraline: sees a mom with buttons for eyes "oh this is ok"
Me: seing my mom having buttons for eyes "not today boiii"
School Bully: Hey! Coraline, I wanna fight you!
Coraline: Ok.
Also School Bully: 4pm
Also Coraline: No. Now.
" Coraline wasted no time."
Nah I feel like if anyone tryed to bully Coraline they would get there butt kicked
@@honey_pot5985 probably not since she didint do actual fighting aside from throwing the cat at the bedlam
scp 173 :/ well what the hell was she meant to do I mean she isn’t scared to beat someone up but I mean she can’t exactly beat up the bedlam
@@sideways_chip_eater6420 i feel like anyone brave enough to take on a soul eating monstrous eldritch spider witch being would be damn hard to beat in a fight
@@am5ters504 Not sure being brave will save you from being curb stomped or shot with a .44. Kids are crazy now so wouldn’t doubt this
I loved this movie and never knew there was a book until 3 years later. I actually found the book in a "Free Books" pile. It was so creepy but I enjoyed every minute of it.
I remember reading this book in elementary school. I loved it but man did it creep me out! There are descriptive lines that were in it that I still use in some of my writings even to this day!
Love it...both,story and your videos about it! 🥰
Beldam: Where are your parents (also knew that coraline knows where they are.)
Coraline: They're in there
Beldam: LISTENHEREYOULITTLESHI-
That last passage through the tunnel has always been the most terrifying part of the book to me. We never get any closure as to what it actually is and if the Beldam is scared of it, it’s got to be pretty messed up
Love Neil ! And I'm French ! When I heard beldam I automatically heard 'belle dame' (': it was nice to discover some of that lore (':
What I find odd is that mirror are often see as portals to the spirit realm. Beldam, you throw Coraline in there and you don't expect your past victims to warn her?!😂
Nobody:
Coraline: Sleeps
I honestly also always sleep at my problems I mean theres no bad at it
creepy
My mom gets terrified by lalaloopsys, so she never let me watch Coraline.
Well that wasn't fair. Just because she was a wuss doesn't mean you were.
That's what I told her.
They are dolls that look similar to the other mom, and coralline
I collect lalaloopsy because of my love of Coraline! Lol
Lalaloopsy did kinda freak me out when they first came out I remember
3:08 I love how he phrases that coraline had just pissed off the the beldam XD
It's a wonderful thing
I really like you and your story telling.
I still don't know how U landed on my time line.
I've been watching U for at least 2 years.
ThankU Jon Solo.