Avatar Fans Are Turning Into Star Wars Fans

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  • Опубліковано 31 гру 2024

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  • @ZolPsyko
    @ZolPsyko  9 місяців тому +8

    Yall
    Obviously its okay to dislike something. Just don't be a dickhead/bully about it.

    • @kingjoe244
      @kingjoe244 9 місяців тому +1

      I always tell people. You don’t have to like it and you don’t have to watch it. But they act like they’re being forced to watch something and have to like it. So many people I knew went into the live action show wanting to hate it. And surprise to no one, they that hated. But they also show off that entitlement that they have about being a fan of the OG and are super toxic to anyone different. It’s obnoxious.

    • @UncleD-f9e
      @UncleD-f9e 9 місяців тому +1

      Most of the bullying comes from the people who whine about people critiquing the NF adaptation. It’s not being dh to say they don’t like something that was obviously a money grab

    • @matt-tf2ob
      @matt-tf2ob 9 місяців тому

      Get a life stupid Star Wars Fans are not toxic they choose to love and hate whatever they want as Fans should.

    • @Gotenks7Kid
      @Gotenks7Kid 9 місяців тому +2

      It’s not even about that.
      The adaption is announced-
      We get excited-
      There are problems on production1
      We are concerned and voice our hope it’s not bad-
      We are critiqued for having any concerns about it’s direction-
      We hold out hope-
      The product is released and is a mess-
      We voice our displeasure as the core fan base-
      We are reprimanded for racism, sexism and every other ism because it’s easier to call us that than to address our arguments and criticisms-
      That spreads to the msm and all of a sudden the entire fan base is said isms in the mainstream-
      Tell me any time it didn’t go exactly like that for any model n “adaptation”

    • @matt-tf2ob
      @matt-tf2ob 9 місяців тому

      Your not fans so shut up Avatar: the Last Airbender Live-Action Netflix Series is 1,000 times better than trash M.Night movie.@@Gotenks7Kid

  • @matthewzaslavets8423
    @matthewzaslavets8423 9 місяців тому +52

    Man, if something isn't good, there isn't anything wrong with not liking it. Star Wars fans have all the reasons for not liking new Star Wars, and if you disagree with their opinions - it is your opinion too.
    People do want 10/10 shows because they can be done, they are done all the time, and if many viewers can see exactly what is wrong with a show or with a movie - it is the movies/shows fault

    • @ZolPsyko
      @ZolPsyko  9 місяців тому +1

      I disagree with people taking their opinions too far and blowing things out of proportion.
      Also I don't think 10/10 are common brother. Otherwise they wouldn't be 10/10s lol. I also believe most average viewers don't care about any of these things. This is more about the online fandoms. I could've clarified that a bit, so that's my b.

    • @matthewzaslavets8423
      @matthewzaslavets8423 9 місяців тому +3

      @@ZolPsyko Not saying they are common, just that they happen a lot (even 1% of media is a huge amount). I agree with going too far, but it's not that simple. People can voice their disagreement with the actors: for example of an actor or an actress say something the fans don't agree with - those opinions are as viable for criticism as anything. Some decide to criticise the people directly, going as far as to criticise theor appearance - that's too far, but that is also rare.
      Most criticism is to writing, acting, patterns and cinematography, and it is entirely fare

    • @ZolPsyko
      @ZolPsyko  9 місяців тому +1

      @@matthewzaslavets8423 Yea tru. This video is mainly directed at people who take it to the extreme to bully others, harass people, gatekeep, etc. I'm not losing sleep over criticism, but I think a lot of people need to chill.

    • @ninvusoogoar6098
      @ninvusoogoar6098 9 місяців тому

      @@ZolPsyko there's wanting 10/10's and getting constant 2/10-3/20's from say Disney star wars D+ shows as an example. It's really not "blowing it out of proportion" it's fans not happy with the constant trash being thrown at us then called ist and phobes when we voice our thoughts. Do some take it too far? Yes but they are a tiny minority of people. But I'd argue the really toxic trash in this are those who attack the fans and the companies that keep making trash then getting mad when the fans reject it

    • @ninvusoogoar6098
      @ninvusoogoar6098 9 місяців тому +1

      @@ZolPsyko also every franchise needs a healthly amount of gate keeping if you wish to keep the quality of the franchise intact. If you try to invade a fandom and try to completely change the franchise and try to force decades long fans out of the fandom because they don't want your forced "modern" writing injected into the franchise then you're not a real fan.
      You need some level of "gatekeeping" otherwise you go from the lotr trilogy to rings of power garbage or compare Lucas star wars to the garbage Disney makes.

  • @АлексейМомот-щ7о
    @АлексейМомот-щ7о 9 місяців тому +6

    To be fair to Korra, it's still a better sequel than Star Wars sequels 💀

  • @isaiascanete6651
    @isaiascanete6651 9 місяців тому +37

    so... a fan base that really loves the original and is tired of bad sequels and adaptations? sounds reasonable

    • @ZolPsyko
      @ZolPsyko  9 місяців тому +4

      Yea thats definitely what I was saying.
      Have an awesome day brother

    • @khalidpatterson1422
      @khalidpatterson1422 9 місяців тому +5

      Get used to comments like these lol. And they won't respond

    • @isaiascanete6651
      @isaiascanete6651 9 місяців тому +4

      @@khalidpatterson1422 being 100% honest I am going to respond because ZolPsyko is being a good sport about it, but I'm with a fever right now haha, the moment I'll get better I'll check the video thoroughly and respond.
      But I just think comparing any fandom to the star wars or the disney animated/against remakes ones is kinda cheap. Those 2 franchises are being bastardized a lot

    • @tbzombi3950
      @tbzombi3950 9 місяців тому +3

      This has more likes than the actual video W

    • @ZolPsyko
      @ZolPsyko  9 місяців тому +1

      ​@tbzombi3950 Weirdly enough, dislikes push videos in the algorithm as well.

  • @njbrx
    @njbrx 9 місяців тому +10

    "toxic" fans, come up with something new, they've been playing this card since 2015 and everyone is tired of it

  • @distracting_games
    @distracting_games 9 місяців тому +11

    When your favorite source material gets disrespected as much as Avatar does, you can see where they are coming from. Netflix took so many creative liberties that the OG creators quite the production. Was it terrible? No. Questionable? Absolutely.

    • @ZolPsyko
      @ZolPsyko  9 місяців тому

      Yea, im not denying that at all. I get it.

  • @dylanandrew7490
    @dylanandrew7490 9 місяців тому +16

    If the orignal avatar cartoon was 10/10 why does there need to be a remake at all, to help get it to people who wont because its a "kiddy cartoon" when those are the same people who wouldnt appreciate the original story in the forst place because they have poor media literacy. Because of this the live action action show makes it far less complicated for these brain dead audience memebers and that serves to only agrivate the originals fans. It shouldnt exist

    • @ZolPsyko
      @ZolPsyko  9 місяців тому +2

      Listen bro you can dislike the show. I agree it dont need to exist, but dont call people brain dead for wanting to watch it. You're being an elitist dickhead.

    • @gaminginvirinch3339
      @gaminginvirinch3339 9 місяців тому

      ​@@ZolPsyko I can call them brain dead because of the low standards

    • @BassUndertow
      @BassUndertow 9 місяців тому +1

      Mark Hamill said when he recorded his lines for Ozai he thought the show would be canceled because it was too smart. So in other words, the original show is not for dumb people lol.

  • @libertarianterminator
    @libertarianterminator 9 місяців тому +8

    I'm also an ex-star wars fan too. If people say "you're toxic! This movie is NOT FOR YOU", then ok. I'm out of these dumps and the studios can see if the new batch of audience members will stick with them. Because the old ones are gone.

    • @ZolPsyko
      @ZolPsyko  9 місяців тому +2

      You can always find something you enjoy about it regardless of who its for. If you dont, keep it moving. No big deal.

    • @MournfulDust
      @MournfulDust 9 місяців тому +5

      @@ZolPsykoExcept that people calling those disillusioned fans" toxic" or "anti-fans" and other stuff are making a big deal out of it, wouldn't you agree?

    • @ZolPsyko
      @ZolPsyko  9 місяців тому +2

      ​@MournfulDust I think harassment, bullying, and pushing people to depression/suicide is a big deal yea. Other than that, just opinions brother.

    • @ninvusoogoar6098
      @ninvusoogoar6098 9 місяців тому +1

      @@ZolPsyko if your going to kill yourself because someone called you a fake fan then brother that person had way bigger issues than being told they are not a real star wars fan and likely had nothing to do with it... Also if your so mentally and emotionally damaged/I'll then you probably shouldn't be allowed online or just learn how to block/private your account or learn the read a room before commenting.
      There's a big difference between mocking someone for having a shit take, disagreeing with their views and criticizing it and harassing. A lot of snowflakes consider disagreeing these days are violence and harassment sadly.

  • @eclectic2327
    @eclectic2327 9 місяців тому +3

    Only 31 of the 1400 people who watched this liked the video, bros not cooking

    • @ZolPsyko
      @ZolPsyko  9 місяців тому +1

      I dont make videos for people to like or agree with me

  • @VanHoering
    @VanHoering 9 місяців тому +6

    There's no problem with Star Wars fans. It's not their fault Disney took Star Wars and turned it into shït.

    • @ZolPsyko
      @ZolPsyko  9 місяців тому

      You can say shit bro I wont report or delete your comment 😂
      Thanks for tuning in

    • @gaminginvirinch3339
      @gaminginvirinch3339 9 місяців тому

      ​@@ZolPsyko delete them insecure brat

  • @louiswain9139
    @louiswain9139 9 місяців тому +5

    Maybe if franchises quit making bad sequels you wouldn’t have as many “toxic” fans also korra sucks ngl and I’d loveeeeee to talk to you about that lol

    • @ZolPsyko
      @ZolPsyko  9 місяців тому

      Nah I do enough yapping as it is bro 😂

    • @louiswain9139
      @louiswain9139 9 місяців тому

      @@ZolPsykoah who knows, maybe we could do a stream or something 🤷, I’m younger than you too lol so it wouldn’t be some old guy

  • @Lordgrayson
    @Lordgrayson 9 місяців тому +3

    Anyone who makes the "this was made for kids" argument has immediately lost the argument imo.
    The Original trilogy was made for kids but it was still good quality, therefore star wars being designed after the serials George watched as a kid doesnt give any excuse for poor quality.
    ATLA was also made for kids but that didnt largely affect the quality, LOK doesnt get to say its a more mature show while also being more childish only to use the "made for kids" excuse when people complain about the quality
    LOK was written after removing alot of the original writers for ATLA, including the lead writer for the show Aaron Ehaz(the guy who was involved in writing literally almost every good episode the show had)
    The new Netflix show had even less of the original creators than that and it shows(they just give Aang the ability to fly without a glider at the start of the show)
    Star wars lost Lucas's wife before the prequels who was not only a key editor but also one of the only people who could get george to change his scripts when they sounded stupid.
    The Sequels lost everyone from the originals but hitting most hard is trying to write star wars without Lucas.
    The "toxic" part of the star wars fandom is the super small fraction of people who harrassed the cast.
    The 60-80% majority(based on polls of peoples favourite eras of the franchise) are the people who recognise the drop in quality and will complain about it cause someone has taken their franchise and treated it poorly

    • @noble7065
      @noble7065 9 місяців тому +2

      The "this was made for kid" argument is, as a former kid, pretty damn insulting.
      Just because of age they don't deserve good media?
      Especially at a period in their life where people start forming media literacy and morals?

    • @Lordgrayson
      @Lordgrayson 9 місяців тому

      @@noble7065 It's the same reason why I think video games should not be made easier because "It's made for kids"
      I remember playing games as a kid and I would usually barely finish the 2nd level without help from a big brother or my dad, I cherish those memories now.
      And the rush you feel when you finally overcome that hurdle, when you beat the level or complete your first game is brilliant.
      Making games easier robs kids of the experience of growing in skill level to match the challenge(Yes I am still bitter about the Skywalker Saga videogame being somehow easier and more dumbed down than the Complete Saga game)

    • @rifty9322
      @rifty9322 9 місяців тому

      ​@Lordgrayson fr

    • @samkornrumph8545
      @samkornrumph8545 9 місяців тому

      I agree with just about everything you said, but I have to disagree with the point you made about Lucas’s first wife being some sort of genius editor. I think (don’t quote me on this) most of the stuff she was responsible for editing ended up getting cut. But I’m sure she did have some good input at least on the first two movies. I believe she was the first to suggest that Kenobi should be killed off at the end of the first movie, but that’s the only example I can remember.
      Star Wars was not saved in the edit in the sense that it was a crap movie before the editors came in, because every movie needs to be edited and touched up before being released. Lucas approved of all the editing that was done by his team. One thing that is pretty interesting in regards to the prequels is the fact that nobody would direct them because they didn’t want to get in Lucas’s way.
      If you haven’t already, I highly recommend checking out “How ‘How Star Wars was Saved in the Edit’ was Saved in the Edit” (I think that’s the correct title but it may be slightly different). It really breaks down the original video that started this narrative of “the only reason A New Hope was any good was because of the editing team” and disproves most of that video’s arguments.
      I don’t think the prequels are perfect, because they do have their issues, though I do hold them in high regard and I like them as much as the OT.

    • @Lordgrayson
      @Lordgrayson 9 місяців тому

      @@samkornrumph8545 To clarify I don't think that star wars was "Saved in the edit" I was just acknowledging someone who was pretty foundational to alot of changes to Lucas's vision and someone who wasn't afraid to oppose him(much like Harrison Ford when it came to his dialogue)

  • @mrkaji8913
    @mrkaji8913 8 місяців тому

    The fans were optimistic until 2021. Now they lie saying there were always pessimistic

  • @gole7411
    @gole7411 9 місяців тому +3

    Star Wars is dead now, they destroyed Lukas creation…

  • @LionsDen1999
    @LionsDen1999 9 місяців тому +1

    the writers of the original show distanced themselves from this project because of how poorly written it is and how it doesnt even stick to the cannon of the story. they literally dumbed down the dialogue and re-wrote entire plot points that are crucial to the story.

    • @ZolPsyko
      @ZolPsyko  9 місяців тому +1

      They're also super busy with Avatar Studios. And yea I agree.

  • @stachu5049
    @stachu5049 9 місяців тому +1

    I disagree with some of the points made, but it's definetely a valuable perspective! 👍

  • @GassedFEIN
    @GassedFEIN 9 місяців тому +1

    Star Wars fans aren’t even that bad and the Part that is, is a very small minority compared to whole fan base I’ve had great and detailed discussions with a ton of Star wars fans also the sequels imo aren’t good but pretty much everything after the sequels like mando, clone wars, tales of the Jedi they did perfect with it also Ashoka idk why the show gets so much hate it’s definitely one of the better Star Wars shows and a lot of people still enjoy Star Wars and they’re shows and they’ve been trying to make better shows for the fandom

  • @setlik3gaming80
    @setlik3gaming80 9 місяців тому +2

    Ahsoka AhSuckaed

    • @ZolPsyko
      @ZolPsyko  9 місяців тому

      Boooooooo

    • @setlik3gaming80
      @setlik3gaming80 9 місяців тому

      @@ZolPsyko We reach brother 🙏 That is what I said after watching it.

  • @inksday
    @inksday 9 місяців тому +7

    CaLlInG DoGsHit MoViEs AnD TV ShoWs DoGsHit Is ToxIc
    clown

    • @ZolPsyko
      @ZolPsyko  9 місяців тому +1

      Have a good day, brother.

  • @King_QM23
    @King_QM23 9 місяців тому +15

    Damn dude what a damn disrespectful video

    • @ZolPsyko
      @ZolPsyko  9 місяців тому

      Disrespectful to who?

    • @Automaton237
      @Automaton237 9 місяців тому +3

      ​@@ZolPsykoto the people who send death threats or be disrespectful to voice actors just because they played roles in a show that thay didn't like. pretty much most of Disney Star Wars and Marvels is actually pretty good or okay and not as good as the original.

    • @Theagentofchaos-r5q
      @Theagentofchaos-r5q 9 місяців тому

      @@Automaton237how was he being disrespectful to them?

    • @Automaton237
      @Automaton237 9 місяців тому

      @@Theagentofchaos-r5q I don't know this person obviously think something's disrespectful in the video and the only thing this person can find disrespectful is saying they're disgusting people for saying rude things to actors which is true but still probably offended him somehow.

  • @amiasbryant5568
    @amiasbryant5568 9 місяців тому

    I agree. love Star Wars, Love ATLAB, but absolutely hate the fan base. At this point I just enjoy both on my own and don't interact with fans anymore.

  • @kyledabearsfan
    @kyledabearsfan 9 місяців тому +3

    Well thats because they are turning ATLA into modern Star Wars... horrible. Its not that bad yet, but we see the direction they are taking it. And its better to say something now, then hope they will correct things. What they did with Katara is unforgivable to me, they are trying to make her a girl boss instead of a good character. She has nothing to do with Aang. Their relationship is vital to both of their development, but no! Cant have katara like a dude! She need no man! Shes a warrior! SINCE WHEN?!? she was a beast but because she cared about those around her and would give her life for them. But, now? No she is just naturally better than everyone? It devalues the relationships. They ruined Sokkas arc too, he learns from mistakes and is humble, thats why he got over his sexist thoughts in the original, but no, hes gotta be mega sexist in this one, because the white man be evil! ATLA is so beloved because it doesn't treat its audience like children. It addresses complex themes and emotions. It doesn't follow the Hollywood script of. 1. White men evil 2. Girl bosses girl bosses everywhere 3. Dumbing down every complex situation. People should attempt to enjoy things with an open mind, but we also have the right to speak that same mind and inform others.

  • @UncleD-f9e
    @UncleD-f9e 9 місяців тому +1

    You’re missing the entire point of the criticism. People don’t like the fact Netflix removed major aspects of the show like character traits and arcs that are crucial to the story.

  • @jaster9870
    @jaster9870 9 місяців тому +3

    Nope modern star wars is ass. Korra wasn't that great but it had its moments. Live action Avatar ruined the characters.

    • @ZolPsyko
      @ZolPsyko  9 місяців тому

      How are they ruined when their true forms, the animated versions, still exist? Its not like they got replaced.

  • @Tracy_LLC
    @Tracy_LLC 9 місяців тому +3

    There are no anti-fans only fans I sorry to say I completely disagree with your assessment and the fact that you call people that don't agree anti-fan shows how narrow sighted you are you need to look at it form more than your own point of view and try to understand why people feel the way they do instead of living in the tiny echo chamber that you do. No Offense

    • @ZolPsyko
      @ZolPsyko  9 місяців тому

      There are no anti-fans in Ba Sing Se
      Also none taken at all 😂

  • @sonord2074
    @sonord2074 9 місяців тому

    what a great vid man, glad this hit my algorithm today, u found a fun angle here I havent seen yet, and you delivered on it, keep it up bruh. I noticed everyone in my circle who complained about the show after watching 1. didnt finish it or 2. complained about it before it was even out, making me think they would have complained no matter what. I think this show did a good enough job that I enjoyed my time with it, I wasn't offended... not perfect but I think they can do better for sure, theres some stuff cooking here. Glad to see it got renewewd

  • @we_are_so_back
    @we_are_so_back 9 місяців тому +1

    glad to see someone defending Korra 🤝

  • @aqueousconch1103
    @aqueousconch1103 9 місяців тому

    *cough*
    I still heavily dislike No Way Home’s story and execution…so it’s a 6/10 for me. I have more respect for the Shang Chi movie and Black Panther 2

  • @LeetTron5000
    @LeetTron5000 9 місяців тому +4

    So true these fans are ruining the enjoyment for themselves and everyone else. ATLA live action was fine and enjoyable to watch but season 2 hasnt been announced because of all the hate even though its the #1 most viewed premier in netflix history. I watched one review about the live action avatar from overanalyzing avatar and then i get like 100 different channels with 5 subs on the homepage with titles saying the show is shit. Ill never understand how people can get so psychotically invested in these certain medias to the point of being toxic scum humans who attack the actors or just generally spread hate.

    • @ZolPsyko
      @ZolPsyko  9 місяців тому

      The show is getting a season 2 and 3. I think right now what you're seeing is a lot of people rushing to be first just to say the same thing that everyone else is saying. Hating on the show gets you views.
      Avatar or no Avatar, I hope your homepage gets better with more positive videos lol. Thanks for watching and have a good one.

    • @LeetTron5000
      @LeetTron5000 9 місяців тому

      @@ZolPsyko Nice when i checked a couple days ago it wasnt announced that it was continuing. Just thought it was strange they didnt announce it after it immediately performed well. Yup people just jumping on the hate train for clout. Kinda just how the clown world works these days. With us or against us mentality everywhere you look.

  • @ryanmatthews3609
    @ryanmatthews3609 9 місяців тому

    pitty.

  • @notfromhere8889
    @notfromhere8889 9 місяців тому +2

    You're 100 percent correct. At first, they were flat out racist and sexist. Then they all got masters degrees and became the gatekeepers of good writing. How can you claim that your kind is superior when you review bomb a movie because it hurt your fragile feelings?
    P.S. my favorites are the ones who cry about realism but are ok with purple aliens who steal magic rocks.